Previewing the Olympic Women’s hockey tournament

Summary

The Athletic Hockey Show – Olympic Women’s Hockey Tournament Preview

Date: January 29, 2026
Hosts: Sean Gentille (B) & Haley Salvian (C)

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Episode Overview

This special episode is a deep dive preview of the upcoming Olympic Women’s Hockey Tournament in Milan-Cortina 2026. With CBC and The Athletic’s Haley Salvian (a recognized women’s hockey analyst) co-hosting alongside Sean Gentille, the episode breaks down Canada vs. USA, player matchups, key storylines, the rest of the international field, and rapid-fire predictions. The tone is insightful but light, with smart analysis and plenty of on-the-ground perspective from Haley, who’s off to cover the Games.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Canada vs. USA: The Rivalry and Favorites ([03:20]–[18:22])

• The Eternal Final: "It's another Olympics where everyone can just fairly write and pen that it's going to be US versus Canada in the gold medal game. It’s been that way every year since 2006." – Sean [04:56]

• Who’s the Favorite?

  • Haley leans USA as the on-paper favorite. Recent tournaments and IIHF rankings put the U.S. at #1.
  • However: “Calling Canada the underdogs has been a little bit overdone…We’re the reigning Olympic champions. We won two of the last four world championships. Remember, they rewrote the record book in Beijing and demolished everybody.” – Haley [05:47–07:35]

• Team USA Analysis:

  • “The U.S. team is more dynamic. They are faster, they are younger, they can score more goals.”
  • Standouts: Hilary Knight, Kendall Coyne Schofield (“most productive 5-on-5 PWHL player last two seasons”), Kelly Pannek, Caroline Harvey, Abby Murphy.
  • “Abby Murphy and Caroline Harvey are going to be the breakout 'who are they?' players for the casual Olympic viewer.” – Haley [08:25]

• Team Canada Analysis:

  • More veteran, less dynamic, but loaded with Olympic experience (16 players from 2022; 9 in their third Games or more).
  • “If they can play to their strengths, I think Canada will be OK.” [08:54]

U.S. Dominance in Rivalry Series – Should Canada Be Worried? ([09:26]–[14:17])

• U.S. has won 6 straight versus Canada, including 24-7 cumulative scoreline in Rivalry Series and worlds.
• Haley’s caveats:
  • Canada was experimenting: “Troy Ryan has been very open…we’re testing new players, seeing how Watts, Jaques do”—rivalry series as tryouts for Olympic roster. [10:23–11:32]
  • U.S. was all-in; Canada was tinkering.
• Goalie reassurance: "And Renee Debien is not letting in five goals in a 10-4 beatdown in Milan. She is the best goalie on the planet. That was a blip on the radar." – Haley [13:20]
• Goaltending stats border on absurd:
  • "She had a .954 save percentage in the PWHL… these are sick numbers." – Sean [14:17–14:44]

Goaltending Matchup: Debien vs. Frankel ([15:05]–[18:22])

• Both are elite, but edge goes to Canada because Debien has "been there, done that."
• “If Canada wins gold, it’s because Debian stole it. If they win, it's a 3-2 game, Debian shut the door.” – Haley [16:10]
• “I do give Canada a bit of an edge. But you have to beat Frankel too.” – Haley

Canada’s Top Forwards – Who Rides With Poulin? ([18:22]–[22:57])

• Line construction drama
  • "Trying to find the right left winger for Marie Philip Poulin has been a challenge since Mélodie Daoust retired." – Haley [21:19]
  • Laura Stacey is a lock on the right. "She complements Poulin so well. Great forechecker, creates space, they’ve developed chemistry for club and country." [19:49–21:00]
  • Left wing options include Daryl Watts (elite scorer in PWHL), Jennifer Gardner (worked in Montreal), and other possible combinations.
• Memorable note: How Sarah Nurse unexpectedly became the top-line winger mid-tournament in 2022 and broke records [20:32].
• "Daryl Watts should make sense [on the top line] because she’s got a ton of skill…But we haven’t really seen that yet on Team Canada." – Haley

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Tournament Format & The Rest of the Field ([25:12]–[37:18])

Group A/B Structure & Criticism ([27:11]–[31:22])

• Women’s tournament still uses “all the powers in Group A, others in Group B,” unlike men’s balanced format.
• “The way the groups are set up is actually starting to do a disservice…It’s hurting the growth of the game.” – Haley ([28:33])
• Sweden’s stagnation is blamed on lack of federation support and inability to play top teams, highlighting the need for group rebalancing ([29:21])

Medal Contenders Beyond USA/Canada

• Who’s next?

  • “Are we still just penciling in Finland–Czechia for the bronze medal game? I think so.” – Sean and Haley agree ([31:01],[31:22])

• Czechia’s case:

  • “Christina Kaltounkova’s been awesome in her rookie year, Natalie Malinkova is skilled, they have a nice mix of pros and NCAA young kids.” ([33:56])
  • Tara Lová’s health is a question mark.
  • “Most player poll respondents I spoke to picked Czechia for bronze.” – Haley

• Finland’s case:

  • Jenny Hirakoski playing her fifth Olympics, Michelle Karvinen (“highest scoring Finnish player at Worlds”), Susanna Tapani (“she’s sick”), Petra Nieminen (“one of the best forwards in the world”).
  • Haley leans Finland for bronze due to their physical, classic style—“sometimes the games are won in the trenches, unfortunately along the walls, and I think Finland’s very good at that.” ([35:40])

• Sweden as a sleeper: Dynamic, young team—“Hilda Svensson, name to watch!” ([37:18])

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Rapid Fire Predictions & Big Picture ([40:33]–[49:12])

• Gold Medal Picks

  • Haley: "I'm gonna be spicy and say Canada. I think everyone’s poo-pooing them…the way they’re talking, I think they go in with a chip on their shoulder.” Comparisons to 2002 and 2014 cycles where Canada slumped pre-tournament then won gold ([40:33],[41:45])
  • Sean: “I have to go with the Americans…Frankel is going to bridge the gap, and a bunch of young superstars—tough to pick against them.” ([41:45])

• MVP

  • Haley: “Debien. If Canada wins, I don’t think they’re gonna score a ton of goals.” Reminds that a goalie (Florence Schelling) has won MVP before even on a bronze team ([42:13],[42:21])
  • Sean: Alex Carpenter—“At this point, she’s the best American player on the planet.” ([42:32])

• Leading Scorer

  • Haley: “Hilary Knight…she cooks against lower competition and comes up in big moments, too.” ([44:46])
  • Sean: “I’ll just say Carpenter again. I know it’s a boring chalk pick.” ([45:15])
  • Both float Abby Murphy as a contender, but with the caveat about her on-ice aggression possibly affecting MVP ballots.

• Best European Player

  • Haley: “Kaltounkova. Nobody has more goals than she does in the PWHL this season. This could be a huge moment for her.” ([46:19])
  • Sean: “Tapani for Finland. She just pops in every game I see—she’s active, always noticeable.” ([47:11])

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Blunt Previews:
  • “The reality is, the Olympics provides an opportunity for more eyeballs on the sport…and I think Abby Murphy and Caroline Harvey specifically are going to come out as like, oh my god, who are these people?” – Haley [08:25]
  • “The women’s hockey tournament gets better every four years. But with the PWHL, the level of play will be even more raised—most of them have played in a best-on-best competitively all year.” – Haley [49:12]
• Insight for Casuals:
  • “Safe percentages in the PWHL are sick…9:15 is bad. In the NHL, that gets you Vezinas.” – Sean [14:17]
• Inside Broadcast Choices:
  • “[On host setups]…sometimes that’s just being a very kind host and not taking the time themselves. That’s your ‘how the sausage gets made.’” – Haley [03:57]
  • “[On MVP voting] …my biggest beef, it’s an honor, but you have to vote for MVP with 15 minutes to go in a game that’s always going to overtime!” – Haley [44:34]

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• [03:20] Start of Olympic women’s hockey tournament preview
• [04:56] The inevitability of USA-Canada in the gold medal game
• [05:47–09:26] Who’s the favorite and team-by-team breakdown
• [10:03–13:34] How to interpret Rivalry Series/Worlds results and Canada’s strategy
• [14:45–18:22] Goaltending breakdown: Debien vs. Frankel
• [18:22–22:57] Canada’s forward lines and Poulin’s wingers
• [27:11–31:22] Group format criticism and development impact
• [31:22–37:18] Battle for bronze: Finland, Czechia, Sweden as dark horse
• [40:33–49:12] Predictions: Gold, MVP, leading scorer, best European player
• [49:12–51:00] Big picture: Growth potential and excitement for the sport

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Final Thoughts & Outlook

• Haley’s closing thoughts: The tournament will be a showcase for women’s hockey’s rapid progress, especially with the momentum from the PWHL. "This is a huge opportunity for the PWHL to grab those eyeballs and grow sustainability and momentum for the sport."
• Both hosts encourage fans to tune in: "Millions may watch this gold medal game—and now, unlike in the past, they can see these stars all year in the PWHL."

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In Short

• Canada-US rivalry remains the headline, but the gap is closing
• Canada leans on experience and goaltending; US on speed and star youth
• Czechia and Finland lead the European charge for the bronze
• Big potential for breakout stars given Olympic exposure
• Anticipation is high for a best-ever Olympic women’s tournament—"the level of hockey is about to go up another notch."

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This summary captures the essence, insight, and exuberant tone of the preview, perfect for any listener wanting the full rundown ahead of the Milan-Cortina women's hockey tournament.

Transcript

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[B]

This is the athletic hockey show. What up? What up? It's the Athletic cocky show for January 29, 2026. I am Sean Gentili. I am running the show here with Haley Salvia. This is a rare occurrence. She is a broadcast professional. I am not. That's. That's fair to say, right? Cbc, intermission and pregame and post game analyst A. I feel like we never talk about that here.

[C]

I know we never acknowledge my side gig. And that's fine. Nobody needs to know. No one needs to watch. Would I, would I, would I rip off the Dome on cbc?

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Right.

[B]

Yeah, there's definitely. I'm sure there's, I'm sure there's no preparation that goes into that. Absolutely.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

We're speaking, though, in that capacity today more than most days because again, you are, you are women's hockey expert. You are headed to Milan Cortina in like 15 minutes to cover the tournament for the CBC and the Athletic. Today is our women's hockey Olympic preview show. So I'm, I'm the captain now. I'm driving the bus. Right. I'm just going to serve you up softball questions about the Tournament that everyone's actually. Actually here to see.

[C]

So, Canada, question mark. Excellent hosting goalies. Poulin mvp. That's like. So I will say, like, on a CBC level for one second. I know if you're, like, on your couch or whatever, sometimes it can sound kind of, like, goofy or. It looks funny when Ron McClane just kind of pointed out points and says, Brock Besser, Elliott. But having actually worked in television, sometimes that's the best setup. And I've, like, talked to Andy Petrillo about this. Like, one of my friends, she's a host, wrote a book.

[B]

Wow, you're friends with.

[C]

What's she like in real life? What's Andy like in real life? So mean. It's crazy. Her name, her nickname is Andiva. Yeah. But there's been times where she's like, if you have a point, you want to say. And like, she. She's like, there is no reason for me to take up 15 seconds, 20 seconds of your talk time. Teeing you up. So I will just be like, Alina Mueller. And Haley, you take the 30 seconds we have allotted to talk about Alina Mueller. So that's your little, like, how the sausage gets made. If you're, like, laughing at Ron McLean Just being like Brock Besser, that is him being a very kind host and not taking the time himself. He will take that time back when he's, like, doing his, like, funny little history rants.

[B]

Yeah. When. When he's Talking about the 1978 Gray cup for some reason.

[C]

It's funny. It's funny. It's fine. But that's like, our little, like. That's Sean. That's gonna be. Sean's hosting today is Canada. Gold medal.

[B]

Canada.

[C]

Thoughts?

[B]

I mean, we do know, like, I. It's amazing that these tournaments deliver that, like, women's hockey tournaments deliver year after year after year, World tournament or championships after Olympic tournament after Olympic tournament, despite knowing what the final game is going to be. And that's. That's such a testament, I think, to the quality of the U.S. canada rivalry. But here we are. It's another Olympics where everyone can just fairly write and pen that it's going to be US versus Canada in the. In. In the gold medal game. It's been that way every year. That's how it's been in every tournament since 2006. But, hey, let's. Let's just start. Let's start with that. Who's the favorite here? Is it. Is it the US because there's plenty of data points over the last little bit to suggest so. But is that how you're feeling, you know, as we're five or six or seven days out?

[C]

Yeah. I mean, I think the IHF World rankings and the recent games between US and Canada would suggest that Team USA is the favorite right now. I mean, at the very least, they're the number one ranked team in the IHF World rankings. I think it's fair to say that Team USA is the top team heading into this tournament. But I think calling Canada the underdogs has been a little bit overdone. I saw Emma Malta say this on the Jocks and Jill's podcast, so I don't want to take all the credit. It was actually like a really nice peek into the way that the Canadians are looking at this of, like, we're the Olympic world, Like, we're the reigning Olympic champions. We won two of the world championships in these four years. So actually, like, sure, the US Won the last worlds and they beat us at rivalry, but it's not like we haven't been winning over this last Olympic quad. And I'll remind everyone that Team Canada rewrote the record book in Beijing with one of the, you know, best teams we've ever seen. They just demolished everybody. That gold medal game, the. The final score ended up looking close, but that gold medal game was Canada end to end. There was never a question of who was going to win in 2022. So I'll just remind people that just because they lost at World Championships and rivalry series doesn't mean that Canada is going to be bad. I think the US Team is more dynamic. They are faster, they are younger, they can score more goals. Like, which is what makes them the top ranked team heading into this. Right. Like, they have Hillary Knight, who's still playing really well. Kendall Coin Schofield, who's been the most productive 5 on 5 player in the PWHL the last two seasons, having a great, great year. Kelly Panic is playing excellent hockey right now, and she's someone who can scale the lineup for John Robleski. Hannah Bilk is healthy. She's back. Caroline Harvey is going to establish herself as one of the best players on the planet at this Olympics. Abby Murphy has been a superstar for years, but I always see, and I don't mean to, like, diminish these players because I've been watching them. Like, I know there's a lot of people who've been watching them. They know who they are. But the reality is the Olympics provides an opportunity for more eyeballs on the sport. And I Think Abby Murphy and Caroline Harvey specifically are going to come out as like, oh my God, who, who are these people? To a lot of people who are on their couch who haven't watched women's hockey since the last Olympics. So I just think there's so much young, dynamic talent and great veterans who are still playing well and still productive that make the US Team pretty scary. Whereas Canada is a bit more on the like veteran experience side. They've got 16 players from the 2022 Olympic team. They have nine players who've played more than two Olympic tournaments. Like this is an older, slower, less dynamic roster. But I don't necessarily think that that is going to be a bad thing. Like if they can play to their strengths, I think Canada will be okay. And I think at the end of the day, a gold medal game between the US candidates for 2022 in 2006. Most years which Canada won both those by the way, most years a gold medal game between these two nations is over time. It's a game of inches. It's drama. So I don't really want to make too much of like preseason results essentially because when it comes down to it, it's going to be crazy.

[B]

Yeah, let's, let's, let's touch on that a bit though because it's fair to call these two teams co favorites obviously, even if the edge, you give some kind of edge to the US but there's still one team that took rivalry series cumulative cumulatively 24 to 6 and it was the United States. So how do we square, you know, the, the reasoned feeling that these two teams are. It's there are that it's going to be tight and it's going to be dramatic and it's going to be as close as it always is. Along with the fact that we just saw five consecutive games of pretty serious dominance by the United States.

[C]

Like six consecutive games if we consider that is true. World championships. Right. So team USA one world and Czechia and they beat everyone. So they beat Canada twice in a row and then they beat Canada in all four rivalry series games. So yeah, they're riding a six game win streak against team Canada and they beat them. What was it, 20, 24 to 7.

[B]

24 to 7.

[C]

It like not great. It's not great. I get it. But here's the two main reasons why I came out of that was like not worried. Number one is Troy Ryan has been very open about the fact that they use rivalry series as a way to test out new players. They also use the last World Championships as, like, a final. Let's see how they do. Olympics are a year away. We're in Czechia. We got to know what Daryl Watts can do. We've got to know what Sophie Jakes can do. Those two players go in, Canada loses. Those players play well. They're on the Olympic team. We got to see what Jen Gardner can do. They use the World Championships as a final effort to see these players in, like, a truly international best on best competition, didn't win, but they have a bunch of, like, new or young faces on the Olympic team that people have been clamoring for. So that's the one with World Championships.

[B]

Were they effective in that? Was that an effective method? Like, did. Did. What did we learn about players, about the players that. That they were trying to learn stuff about? Like what? Like what? What?

[C]

I mean, yeah, the Olympic team. Like, sure, Daryl Watts went in and, like, played well at World Championships, and now she's on her first Olympic team. Sophie Jakes wasn't great at World Championships. Like, she was fine, but she got her feet wet. She played well at rivalry. She's playing great in PWHL on the Olympic team. So I think it was an effective way to look at some new faces. And then they carried that over into rivalry series in a way of, like, they left Brianne Jenner at home for the first two games. They didn't play Emirates Mash Meyer and Renee Debian in the first couple games. They were trying out new goalies. They played Chloe Primarino. They brought Katie Tabin, who made the Olympic team. Like, Troy Ryan's been very open about the ways in which he used rivalry series as, like, final exhibitions. Whereas Team USA like Casey o' Brien and Gabby Hughes didn't even really practice. Like, players who were on the bubble, like, didn't even get practice I. Some days because it was like, you're not on the team, so we're not gonna try. And I guess I get that because you're preparing for the Olympics, but they just went about it in different ways. Like, I was in Cleveland. I was like, where's Casey o'? Brien?

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Like, at the hotel. Like, okay, yeah. I, um. So the US Olympic team beat the Canadian. Trying things out.

[B]

Right. The Canadian chemistry experiment. Right. Like, that kind of feels like.

[C]

Yeah. Final two games, though. Like, Emirates, Mash Meyer and Anne Renee Debien both played in the game that can last 10 to 4. So that's where. If you're a fan, you're listening to this, you're like, haley, shut up. Like, they played their starters and they still got their butts kicked.

[B]

Right.

[C]

So this is my second point here. Mm. I will. You can replay this clip on February 20th if I'm wrong.

[B]

Oh my God.

[C]

And Renee Debian is not letting in five goals in a 104 beat down in Milano Cortina. It's not going to happen. She is the best goalie on the planet. That was a blip on the radar.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

For a player who has been hitting historically one of the very best at her position. She has a.954 safe percentage in the TWHL, a 1.5 goals against average. Excuse me, number one, don't even bring up Aaron Frankel right now. Don't even do it. Frankel in these metrics 4 and oh. At the Olympic Games and has only ever lost two gold medal games against Aaron Frankel, mind you. But like, this is a player who's been historically clutch and like the best in the world at her position. She is not going to have a stinker like that when it matters most. And that's.

[B]

That's completely, completely reasonable. I do want to say my soapbox. I do want to say to people who are just tuning in, who typically are NHL first or NHL only hockey fans here, safe percentages in the PWHL are sick. So you hear like, I'm sure there were people who were like, she had a. She had a what? She had a what now? She had a.954 save percentage. And that's. And that. That is true.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

She's at the top of the leaderboard there. She's only behind Abby Levy for, for.

[C]

Boston, who's played one game.

[B]

She's only played one game. I know.

[C]

I understand that she's the best starting goalie in the PW.

[B]

Andre Nadibian, 954. Aaron Frankel, 946. Nicole Hensley, 940. Like the, the. They're. They're getting great goalie play in the PDF915.

[C]

Say percentage is bad is like your.

[B]

Is. Is. You're in trouble. Whereas 9:15 in the NHL at this point gets you business. So we do need to just make sure that everyone's sliders are, are pushed in the right direction here. So we're. But you're saying no, no problems there despite. Despite what. Whatever happened there. That's. That's understandable. Talk about Aaron Frankel a bit also though, because she is typically the player.

[C]

Very small, very good.

[B]

And she's obviously the US Starting goaltender, eight points behind, but behind Debian in, in say, percentage. So she's, you know, running neck and neck there. Is that enough to give Canada a clear, concerted edge when it comes to goaltending? Because they asked. They're the two. They're the two. They's the two best in the world. But, like, is there. Is there a. How meaningful is the gap between them right now?

[C]

I wouldn't, like, I think Canada could have the edge because Debian has been there, done that. Aaron Frankel's never played in the Olympics before. And that's the wrinkle that I'm very curious to see. We have seen Aaron Frankel stand on her head at World Championships. We've seen her stand on her head in the pwhl. And that's why I'm not willing to say that, like, and Renee Debien has her beat by a mile or she has this crazy edge. But what Ann. Renee Debien does have is that four, no record at the Olympic Games. Like, she's been there, she's done that. And part of me does wonder, like, is there going to be this sense of, like, oh, my God, this is the Olympics. I'm freaking out. Frankel's calm, cool, collected, like her first ever World Championships as a starter. She won in Brampton. So I think Aaron Frankel is going to be fine. But I do give Canada a bit of an edge. I think at the end of the day, the U.S. like, whoever wins. Let me put it this way, if Canada wins a gold medal, it's because. And Renee Debien, like, I don't think Canada is going to go out and beat offensive records in this tournament. I think if they beat the Americans in a gold medal game, it's because Davien stole the game and Canada could score, like, it's like a 32 game. Davien shut the door, which is typically what these games are. If it's like 2:1 or something, like, I really just, and I'm not trying to be like, cruel, like, I think Team Canada lost some speed and their offense hasn't quite been there. But if Debian can shut the door, like, two or three goals might be enough. So that's the way I see it. But then if you're a candidate, you also have to beat Frankel. So I think it's going to be tight. I think all this is going to come down to a tight game. It could also be like the crazy Utica gold medal game where Davien and Frankel went into the gold medal match with like, sub one goals against averages. And then that game was like 6, 5 and OT or something. Like I went into being like this. Could it be one nothing gold medal game and then they scored a million goals and I was like, wow, I'm so stupid. So goaltending is going to be important. Okay, let's talk.

[B]

Let's. Let's talk about the Canada forward group though. They. Someone who have we mentioned? Marie Philippa Land.

[C]

No.

[B]

Yeah. Best player on earth. Best player in the. In the tournament. Certainly. Certainly the. The best player on Team Canada. A little bit of an open question though what that top line is going to look like. You mentioned Daryl Watts earlier. She's a player who seems like she's gotten at least some consideration to being a line mate for. For pulling obviously. Laura Stacy, who's Polin's linemate in Montreal and wife are certainly in the mix. They're incredibly effective together. Shocker, shocker there. Polin is 14 points and 15 PW games this season. Stacy's got. Stacy's got eight. So. So they, they work together well. Clearly. What is that first line going to look like in who do you think are the best bets to stick in a meaningful way on. On Pullin's wings?

[C]

So I've talked to Troy Ryan about this. Like I have literally congratulations Team Canada's head coach. Like yeah. Who and Stacy look great together. But like I really like Laura with Turnbull and Clark. Yeah, that's like my favorite line ever. They're so effective. Just so annoying to play against and it's just funny. I feel like Troy's just like, okay, thanks. Thanks for the tip.

[B]

Input appreciated.

[C]

Yes, I'll keep that in mind. But we're trying to win an Olympic gold medal. Hayley Salvian. But I in saying that I do think Laura Stacy should be a lock on the top line with Mary Philippe Poulin. I think trying to find that left winger has been a bit of a challenge over this last quad. Really. Even heading into the last Olympics. Like they didn't have a. A lock on the. On the wing with Poulin heading into Beijing and it ended up being Sarah Nurse who set the record for points in a single tournament. But she was someone who got elevated like mid tournament. It was Emily Clark at first. Then Clark had an inconclusive COVID test and then they were like let's put Nursey there. And then Sarah broke a record. Like it was very funny to look back on the way that that all happened. Like Sarah Nurse was on the fourth line heading into Beijing. So anyways, they've been really Trying to find the right left winger for Mary Philippe Poulin really since Melody Da retired. And I think as long as there's a question mark on the left side, as much as you love Laura Stacy on the third line, I think you have to keep Laura there because she complements pun so well. She's a great four checker. She's an excellent F1. She could dig pucks out of the corner, she can create space for Poulin. She knows where Pulan likes the puck, Pulan knows where Stacy's gonna be and like that's all stuff they've worked on together for club and country over the last two years here. So I do think Laura should be there. The left wing position, Darrell Watts like should make sense there because she's got a ton of skill and I didn't double check the stats but like as of last week only Poulette had more points in the PWHL than Daryl. Like this is an elite offensive talent, great shot, excellent playmaker. So you see a world in which Daryl like Laura Stacy's getting the puck, Daryl Watts is making the play and Poulens finishing it off. We haven't really seen that yet on Team Canada, which is maybe the concern. I think a lot of fans are wondering if Troy Ryan's going to go back to the Montreal Victoria line. That worked really well at the last World Championships with Jennifer Gardner on that top line. They were aligned together in Montreal before Gardner went in expansion. I think the fact that Gardner is no longer there probably hurts her chances of being put back on the top top line because at least last year it was like, okay, this is a short term tournament. We don't have a lot of practice time. They play well together for their club team. Let's put them here now. But like Gardner was second and tournament scoring when playing with Pooh. So part of me kind of thinks like Troy just put her back up there. I think it'll be either Watts or Gardner or like you could try affiliate. Like they have a ton of options.

[B]

Watson, Watson, Gardner certainly seem like the most sensible picks there, but is there back up there?

[C]

Yeah, she's healthy. She's can't stop scoring in the PWHL now that she's back. Like it worked before. She's got a bomb of a shot so they've got options. But I think you have to just keep Stacy there.

[B]

It's going to be interesting and I'm and we're certainly going to talk about some big picture stuff as it relates to Canada and us coming up but before we do that, we are going to talk about the rest of the field. That's coming up after the break.

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[C]

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[B]

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[B]

I don't think so. Jennifer.

[C]

Oh yeah, huh?

[B]

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[C]

Come on baby. Get with the times.

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[C]

Can I just talk about the group for a second?

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[C]

Can I just talk about that format for a second? I just think the women's World Championships is going away from that. They're going into, like, a more men's, like, snake format. Like, it's going to be more balanced groups by next year. And I think that's going to be so much better for the sport. For, like, listen, every time there's an Olympics, we're going to see the crappy column about women's hockey should be an Olympic sport because Canada, USA just beat up on everyone. It's BS every time it happens. Certainly even more true now because, like, Chucky almost beat Team USA in the semifinals at last year's World Championships. Like, if you're not paying attention and you're still making that column, that's on you. Like, if you're not watching, you can't have that opinion because, like, just don't know what you're talking about. So anyways, I think the way that the groups are set up is actually starting to now do a disservice to other countries. It's starting to, like, impact the ways in which they're able to grow. So this rule, or, like, the way the groups were, was initially put in to, like, stop Canada and US from beating up on Japan or France or Italy, like, the lower ranked teams. Like, okay, we don't need Japan or France to be beat 15.

[B]

To 1 in a prelim game.

[C]

Yeah, like, I get it. But now you have all these countries only playing against each other. How are you going to get better? How are you ever going to beat Finland or Canada or Team USA if you never get to play against them? Like, those are important measuring sticks. Those are important learning opportunities. The Sweden coach was like, very upset about this at World Championships a couple years ago because Sweden specifically is the team. There's their own fault, it's the federation's fault for not, you know, investing in the sport. Like, they dropped out of the top tier. They're in Group B and they. What is the boiling? So Sweden's been toiling in Group B now, and this is a team that is young, they're skilled, they're dynamic, they have good goaltending. Like, this is a team that realistically should be pushing for a podium at Women's World Championships at the Olympics. But because they're in Group B, even if you win your group, then, like, congratulations, you're in the quarterfinals against Finland, which has more medals, like, is third and medals behind K, Canada and usa. Like, that's the third best country in women's hockey. Like, congrats on getting back up to speed. Now you get to lose in the quarterfinals to the team that's going to win bronze. And yeah, that's on Sweden. Like, you stopped investing in the sport for a while. You dropped out. You've got to make your way back. But how is Sweden supposed to get better and good enough to beat Finland, to beat Czechia, to eventually beat the US again like they did in 2006? If you're just playing against Germany and Denmark and all the other Group B teams all the time, like, it's. That model doesn't make sense anymore. I think it's actually hurting the growth of the game now, and I think that's why we're seeing World Championships go back to the men's format. And I think that was a long time coming. And I'll be really curious to see. See the ways in which things shake up when that happens. Is it worth giving up to get that off my.

[B]

Yeah, I know, I know. I should have known that.

[C]

Yeah, we feel very happy about that.

[B]

Are you willing to give up on the preliminary round game between the US And Canada to accomplish, you know, the. And we're. We're good with that. I'm just, I'M just making. I, I have no problem with it. I like saving. I like saving the main course for the.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

For the knockout round Whenever, Whenever it happens.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

All right, so all that said, we know you like Sweden, but are we still penciling in my dark horse? Yeah, right. Are we still penciling Finland, Czechia for the, for the bronze medal game? Is that still a fair bet regardless of your beloved Trey Konar?

[C]

Yeah, I think so.

[B]

Did I say that right?

[C]

I have no idea. I'm not Swedish. Ask L. We got, we got pronors for the Olympic broadcast, by the way, but all of the, all the names are being said by someone, like, in the native tongue. So instead of like just and whatever, that's maybe that's me being like ignorant or naive. I'm not like a linguist, but like, instead of it being like a Canadian or an American person saying and yet a terra lova, it's someone from Czechia saying it. So they like it sounds right. So much different than I can achieve that I was like, I'm just not gonna talk about them.

[B]

I think this isn't Mike Sondheim from the Carolina Hurricanes. They're, they're, they're PR boss sending along pronunciation. So if you're a goofball United, you know, goofball American, you can say you Sperry code can. Yummy with. With some confidence. These are, these are expert. These are true expert native. Native tongues dropping.

[C]

And so I feel bad because I'm just like, oh, my God, have I been saying it wrong? Is it just like an accent thing? I'm joking when I say I'm not going to say their names. Like I'm going to listen to them and do better. But I was like, oh, my God, I might have been saying these wrongs way off because we just get North American. Like, we just get like a written out thing. And then you hear. Yeah, and then you hear someone say it.

[B]

Alex Carpenter.

[C]

Yeah. And now I'm like, oh, my God, I've been doing a terrible job. So anyways, Finland, Czechia. Yes. I think they're expected to battle for bronze. That's been the last two women's World Championship bronze medal games. Finland also kind of dropped off for a hot minute. They dropped down to group B. And this is where Sweden has to suck it up in some ways because, Because Finland got themselves back up into group A. But yeah, so Finland is one of the last two women's World championship bronze medals. Chucky won the two before that. So these are the two teams that have been Battling for third place on the podium the last four years. Both teams are pretty solid. Like I think I did a women's hockey player poll and most of the players players picked Czechia to win bronze. So that might be the favorite right now.

[B]

Check what has, yeah, what gets them there.

[C]

They've got first overall pick, Christina Kelton Cova, she's been awesome in her rookie season. Natalie Malinkova, super skilled on the Montreal victor. Teresa Vanisheva brings some like pro skill. Tara Lova is hurt right now, so that's a question mark for check. She didn't play for Seattle last night, so that would actually be something that would not overly worry me. But she is their captain, super steady presence on the blue line. And then they have a freshman from the University of Wisconsin, 19 year old Adela Sapa Vallovova. I really hope I'm trying my best. Like I'm going through my pronunciation guide. I promise she's gonna make her Olympic debut. She's played really well as an underage forward at Women's Worlds and she's been great for the University of Wisconsin. So Chucky just has this like really nice mix of pro experience, young kids from the ncaa. Whereas Finland I think is a, has a bit more well established pros players who have been there, done that at this level. Jenny Hirakovsky is going to play in her fifth Olympics. You know, Pullin and Knight are getting a lot of that attention from playing in number five. But Yenni is doing it too. Michelle Carvinen, she's playing in the PWHL this season. She became the highest scoring Finnish player at Women's World Championships back in April. She passed Rika Saline and who was inducted into the Hockey hall of Fame a couple years ago. So Susanna Tapani on the Boston Fleet, she's sick. Petra Niemen, and she's one of the best forwards in the world. She's been playing in the Swedish Women's Hockey League. So to me I actually think, I think Finland, I would pick Finland to win bronze. I just think they have a little bit more and they put play a bit more of that like classic hard to play against style. Whereas the checks are like fast and fun and free. But that doesn't necessarily always do well in a gold medal game. Sometimes the games are one in the trenches unfortunately along the walls. And I think Finland's very good at that. So. But I do think both those teams have like a ton of fun, young talent and veteran experience. Rania Savalainen, she's great in the pwhl super physical Nelly Layton and Nelly Latinin is gonna feature on that blue line. She's on the Minnesota Gophers, so just a ton of talent on both sides.

[B]

There's a lot of, there's established PW players at the top, a good amount at the top of both those rosters, which is, as a casual, I think that's, I think that's helpful. Like, it, it makes me more interested in watching Finland and Czechia maybe now than in the past because there's a bunch of players. I know already. I know that Susanna Tapani is going to be there, and I know that. I know, I know Niemenin is not, is not a PW player, but she's, she's, you know, she's so, so good. So I think the fact that, you know, if nothing else, at the top of those rosters are players that we're familiar with and that, and that, that gives us, gives us something else to watch and something else to track and, you know, maybe, maybe Sweden does it. That's what I say. They're my dark horse pick, too.

[C]

Hilda Svenson name to watch.

[B]

It's great.

[C]

She's so good. She's been so good in the ncaa.

[B]

We're gonna take one more break and we're gonna come back with some rapid fire predictions about the big picture stuff coming out of the tournament. Stick around.

[A]

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[B]

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[C]

Getith with the times. With the times. You're playing the loot.

[B]

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[C]

I'm gonna, I'm gonna be spicy and say Canada. I think everyone's poo pooing them and the Americans look great. But I don't know, I'm just gonna say Canada. I think the way that they've been talking about, I think they are going to go into this and have a chip on their shoulder. I know this supposed to be rapid fire, but let me just drop one more thing, okay? And then the rest will be rapid. I swear, I think the 2014 Olympics and also 2022, even 1998, these are great examples of like pre season or pre tournament games not actually mattering when it matters most. Canada was the best team on the planet. They lost in 98. Thought Team USA had the better team. Canada struggled to win games in 2002 leading up to that tournament. Then Canada wins gold. 2014. Brianne Jenner told me this recently. She's like, we couldn't even beat like the junior B hockey team we were playing against. Like we lost. We went 0 and 12. We didn't win a single game that year. They win the 2014 Sochi gold medal. So I think 2026 is giving me 22,002, 2014 vibes. So I'm gonna go with Canada.

[B]

Oh, man. I have. I have to go with the Americans. I think Aaron Frankel is going to bridge the gap well enough between herself and Debian to kind of take away the Canadian goaltending edge to. To some degree. And a bunch of young superstars on the American roster. We got Caroline Harvey, we got Layla Edwards. Tough to pick against them, so gonna also do the. Do the homer pick in. In the other direction there.

[C]

I wasn't being a homer. I'm being a historian.

[B]

Unlikely excuse.

[C]

Who's your MVP pick if Canada's winning? I think MVP goes to Debian. Like I said, I don't think they're gonna score a ton of goals. So if I'm.

[B]

I think that's reasonable gold.

[C]

I'm gonna say, and Renee Debian wins MVP because it's not unheard of. Florence Shelling won MVP in 2014 when Switzerland won bronze. So goalies can steal it and win that award.

[B]

Alex Carpenter is my pick. She's gonna keep closing the gap between herself and Pullin. I. I think. I think at this point, she's the best American player on the planet. I think she's gonna make her case that she deserves to be pushed even further up in. Into the conversation there. And it's. It's a tough pick. That's what's fun. I wanted to pick Abby Murphy. I just couldn't. I couldn't quite bring myself to do it.

[C]

But the problem with Abby Murphy, and this has been a problem for the Patty Kazmaier. She's gonna run a light. She's gonna punch someone, and people are gonna leave her off their ballot.

[B]

It's okay.

[C]

Justice for Abby Murphy.

[B]

She can take the gold. Yeah. She can accept her gold medal, and that'll be a nice consolation prize. It's fine. Leading scorer. This. This is an interesting question for you because you have Debian as the.

[C]

As the mvp, which is like, kind of also why I want to do that, because sometimes the leading score just wins mvp. And this. Oh, oh, I've got another soapbox. I've got another. We have to vote for MVP in the third period. We don't know who's gonna win yet. It's always going to overtime. It's my biggest beef. Like, it is such an honor. It is an honor and a privilege to vote for these things as a member of the media who covers women's hockey. But I will forever be the one curmudgeon in the press box with 15 minutes to go in a gold medal game being like, how am I supposed to do this? This is unfair. Because you like last year. Great example. Pool ends leading the tournament and scoring. Canada's up or it's tied.00. I guess I'll go for poo. And then they lose. And then Pooh Lens up there taking an award that she doesn't want. It's dumb. It sucks. So the leading score often wins mvp. And it's really stupid because everyone's in there like, well, it's a tie game. I don't really know what I'm supposed to do.

[B]

Call it the Connor McDavid.

[C]

Actually. Anyways, fine. But leading score. I'm gonna say Hillary Knight.

[B]

Interesting. Okay.

[C]

It's your fifth and final. I don't mean this in a rude way. Like, respectfully, she cooks against lower competition. So I think she's gonna get like a ton of goals in the power play. Their power play. Sick. She's gonna get a ton of offense. And then she comes up in big moments too. Like. Like, I think Hillary Knight is. Is clutch. She's been highly productive at the international level still. So I'm gonna go with. With the US Captain in our final games.

[B]

I'm gonna follow the boring logic and say that Carpenter is going to lead in. In points as well. And I think, you know that I'm going shock on that. I know it's a really. I'm getting out on a limb saying that the number one ranked double IHF team is going to win and that the best player on that team is going to be. Is going to be MVP and lead the team in points. But you know, what can I say? I'm a creative.

[C]

I do think Abby Murphy could lead the. Yeah, part of me wants to say Murphy because she. I think it was her and Heisey who went one and two at rivalry series. And those two were sick together on the power play. I think they're going to be. But I, I just. I think the Olympics is going to be different than rivalry and world championship. So I don't know if it's going to be quite as.

[B]

Oh, I think it's going to. I think it's going to be the same. I think the US Is going to win the gold medal game seven to three or whatever.

[C]

There's people who say that. So anyways, Murphy's a Would be a fun pick, too. Anyways, best European player, Christina Kaltankova.

[B]

Oh, chalk.

[C]

Nobody has more goals than she does in the PWHL this season. Her. Her cy young candidacy. 11 goals, one assist. I'm really sad she got that assist.

[B]

Love that.

[C]

She had, like eight goals and no assists at one point. I was like, yes, more. Keep going.

[B]

More.

[C]

Yeah, but she has. Nobody has more goals than she does this season in the pw. It's going to be her first Olympics. She took some time away from the Czech national team for a while. Finally made her first world championship team last year and was so good that she went first overall over Casey o' Brien in the PWHL draft, even though Casey o' Brien broke, like a ton of Wisconsin records. So I think it's me, Kalti. I think this is going to be a huge, huge moment for her.

[B]

Me, Tapani. I've got. I've got Finland as the. Is the bronze. Is. It is the bronze winner. Tapani, just. She's one of those players, man. She. She. She pops a bit in her games for the Boston Fleet. So I'll, I'll go with her. Is that a. I think she's an interesting pick.

[C]

I think it is. And I think there's people who would appreciate that pick because I think she's like one of the more truly underrated players. Hockey. I think that gets thrown around too much or it's like. And listen, I love Emily Clark, but everyone's like, emily Clark is so underrated. I mean, she's like the face of the franchise. She's on.

[B]

She's a Canadian Olympian in. A franchise player in.

[C]

And is she underappreciated for all the little things she does away from the puck? Sure. But, like, she's the highest paid player in the Pohl right now. With respect.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

But I do think, Susan, I do think that's a nice.

[B]

That's a nice sign of appreciation when you make more money than everybody else in the league.

[C]

But I do think Susanna Tapany is very underrated because she doesn't like pop as like, in a flashy way, I should say. Like, she's not toe dragging around people all the time, but she just does everything right. Great skater, so smart, good hands, big shot. She can PK. She's an F1, good offensive player. She's like ring at player, too. So I think that's a great one.

[B]

She's got some. I. When I'm watching her games, I feel similar to the way I feel about Stacy, where she's just such an active player, and you're constantly noticing out there, you mentioned, mentioned F1. Like, that's. They're not, they're not the same. But I, I think they're, I think they're similar enough, you know, to the, to, to the eye. When I'm watching those games, see, I, I'm, I'm, I'm picking Finland to win bronze. I think if that comes down, if that comes a pass, it's going to be. Taping is going to have a whole lot to do with it. Haley, last word. What do you, what do you, what do you, what do you want to send people out on? Go hockey.

[C]

Go Milan Sports think. I think this is going to be such a great display of women's hockey this year. I think the women's hockey tournament gets better every four years. That's just like the natural progression of the sport. But I think with the PWHL in existence, I think the hockey and the level of play is just going to be even more raised because this is the first time where, like, a lot of these players have been training and playing in a best on best competition all year round. So I just think that's gonna raise the game, it's gonna raise the stakes. And I'm excited to see it. And I'm excited to see the ways in which the sport grows after the Olympics. Like, this is usually the time where women's hockey gets all the eyeballs. And sometimes, like it used to be, where millions of people would watch the women's hockey gold medal game and then no one would see them for four years. And I'm just very excited to see what happens now that, like, there's going to be 2 million people or a million people or whatever the numbers end up being watching this gold medal game. And I can't wait to see how many people go, oh, she plays for Boston. Down the street, she plays for Toronto.

[B]

Yeah, that's fun.

[C]

This is a huge opportunity for the people PWHL to grab those eyeballs and, and grow the sustainability and the momentum for the sport. And I'm very excited to see what happens.

[B]

And people who listen to our podcast can in Canada can watch the TV broadcast of the gold medal game and say, hey, I know her. She's a podcast host.

[C]

And they're gonna be like, that's Cassie.

[B]

Quality time with Cassie Campbell Pascal.

[C]

Yeah, like, hey, there's the former captain of Team Canada in that group. Girl who hosts the Athletic Coffee show. I've never seen her face before. You should watch on YouTube. Just kidding. You don't have to. Yeah, it's gonna be. Just show up for Cassie and Andy Petrillo. I'm gonna be there just being like, yes right now. Andy Petrillo, back to you in the studio.

[B]

It's gonna be fun. It's gonna, it's gonna. And it's gonna be a fun couple weeks. Thanks for smartening me up on this. I just feel so stupid talking about women's arguments with you.

[C]

Don't beat yourself up. I think Susanna Tappett is a great poll.

[B]

Thank you. Thank you. Yes. I deserve tons of credit for that. Okay, bye. Bye. Enjoy Italy. See you never.

[C]

Ciao.

[B]

Ciao, bella. Bellissima. Bellissima, folks. Prospect series. That's what's coming up next for the Athletic Hockey Show. New episode on Friday. Guys are looking at the top prospects that could move by the deadline. And they're also comparing Corey and Scott's latest draft rankings which I. Not much of a prospect either. They're. You know, sometimes I listen, sometimes I don't.

[C]

But I think this is gonna fight.

[B]

I hope so. Wheeler versus Promen. Wheeler's got the edge in reach, but I think Promen has. Has some simmering rage that he could use to his advantage. So whatever Haley's off to, Haley's off to Milan. I'll be around in some capacity and we'll certainly be checking in with Haley for more insight and analysis and you know, reports from the, from Media Catering in, in Milan. It'll be. Be very interesting.

[C]

Media Catering.

[B]

Yes, I do complain about every. Yeah, I know. That's, that's what I'm saying. Will they have solid gluten free options? There's only one way to find out. Italy Famous.

[C]

I am. I'm going to eat a bowl of pasta. I don't care. I'll report back on that.

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