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Evan Silva
To draft this year? That and more this week on the couch, the return of Evans Silva. We're going all the way back. Old school couch first. Who gets us excited? Who are you making sure you leave your draft with this year? Evan?
Brandon Thorne
Yeah, especially relative to cost because Ricky Pierce all is still in a very affordable ADP price range. I, I love taking Ricky Piero. He's. I've been doing a lot of best ball drafts and he's one of my highest owned players. He was my high zone for a while until his price started to come up because he was going in like the 80s and 90s and now he's coming up to like the 75 to 80 range and I still have him ranked 63rd overall. So I still get him quite a bit but not as much as I used to. But you know, first round pick. If you look at Matt Harmon's reception perception over his final four games, he was crushing against man coverage. Love to see that out of a guy who had to, you know, come back from a gunshot wound. Right. And took, you know, needed time. I mean when you're recovering from a gunshot wound, you know, it's hard to exercise, you know, so he had to get himself back in shape. This is a super high efficiency offense consistently, no matter what, no matter the state of their offensive line, no matter their quarterback, Kyle Shanahan always runs an efficient ship. The seas have kind of parted I believe for Ricky PIersall. With Brandon Iuk sort of out indefinitely due to a severe knee injury. I don't even know what to expect from him when he comes back because it seems like he and Kyle Shanahan, I mean they have cl. They have like a personality conflict. I believe They've clashed multiple times since Brandon ayuk became a 49er. Juwan Jennings with this calf injury. I don't know if it's real, but I mean, there's a real contract dispute going on there that at very least has allowed Ricky Pierceall to rack up reps with Brock Purdy. I believe that Brock Purdy is coming off his best season. You know, the, a lot of things crumbled around him last year and he still played at a very high level. I know that the 49ers were not, you know, relevant, so the, the, the, the spotlight was not on Brock Purdy. But I think that Brock Purdy is absolutely a legit starter. And you know, I think that this team, I, I just, I think that we're going to see a rebound from the 49ers, especially with their schedule, you know, they have what, what by many metrics is the easiest schedule in the NFL this year. And I think that Ricky Pearsall is going to be a big part of the 49ers getting back to that. I think that when the 49ers drafted Ricky Pearsall, they envisioned him as the future replacement for Debo Samuel. I don't know that he's going to be, you know, even 85% of, of Debo Samuel, but you give me 75% of Debo Samuel and that ability to win against man coverage and a lot of available opportunity and targets in the San Francisco offense in a high efficiency environment. Ricky Pierso, I think is going to continue to. I, I think he's going to crush his ADP even as his ADP has risen.
Evan Silva
Right way I would put it, Evan is. As we're getting closer to the beginning of the season, there are players, like we just obsess about adp. Like we're thinking about where players. This is important, right? Like you have to know where you take a stand, but you also have an idea, have to have an idea of what everyone else thinks and that's how your draft plan comes together. And then as soon as the season starts we're like, oh, this guy should have been drafted like three rounds higher. You know, like Ricky Pierce also should have been a third round pick. It's obvious he's, that he's going to be kind of like a Terry McLaurin level presence in the San Francisco offense, which like you said, is a rich environment. And I love that you bring up the gunshot just because Mike Tomlin in the moving train, you know, he was banged up a little bit last year in Camp and preseason too. And then he comes in this year with the hamstring. He missed a lot of the offseason with the hamstring started camp. But it shows you the high level, like you said, of skill he already has for him to make that kind of impact late in his rookie year after missing so much. Absolutely. We should not let our imagination limit what Ricky Pearsall like 13, 1400 yards. I mean he plays 16, 17 games. That's not outlandish at all. You mentioned Brandon Ayuk and like you said, one of the weirdest things about IUK is the marriage. Maybe this is one of those where like they should have got divorced because it like there were like a reluctance there that now the team has to live with. But that's something that Pearsall can absolutely kind of catch like draft like a race car with. As IUK is fading. Peirce Hall's coming on. What about the other two? Because I'm finding myself excited to draft George Kittle, like if he's there in the fourth round. Evan, there's a lot. And I'm excited to draft James Williams in the fourth round. I'm excited to draft George Pickens in the fourth round. That I mean you should be going into your draft hopefully excited to draft multiple players in each round. Kittle's one of them for me. What do you think?
Brandon Thorne
I think he's an auto click in the fourth round. I'm right there with you. I mean and he is starting to get a little bit older. 31, 30. This is I think will technically be his 30 age, 32 season but man, I mean there have, there have been no signs of fall off with George Kittle. He, his, he led all tight ends in yards per route run last year. You know, he's just an absolute beast. I mean I, yeah, I think he's going to be in the WWF when he retires from the NFL. Like I think he may already have a contract in place with the wwf, but I mean, yeah, and he's always been a guy that has lived off of five or six targets a game and now I think he's got, he's gonna, he's gonna have the opportunity because of this, the seas party. In the same way I, I mentioned Pearsall. If we can get George kittle into the 6, 7, 8 target per game range, like look out, look out. I mean I think he could challenge Brock Bowers. I have him ranked a little bit ahead of Trey McBride. I think that Trey McBride is a almost near consensus tight end. Too. I think George Kittle is a lot better player than. Than Trey McBride. And I think that, you know, just from at least from an efficiency standpoint, I think he's going to crush Trey McBride. And then if we can get that bump in targets per game for George Kittle, I mean, all bets are off.
Evan Silva
Right? He's one that influences. You know, there aren't many commandments at this time of year. I mean, I think the discourse in our circle, Evan, has, has gotten more nuance where we can say, like, we project certainty, but we all understand we're dealing with probabilities here. But I can almost say as an edict, don't draft Brock Bowers or Trey McBride. Don't. Just don't 100 of the time. Don't. Because then you can't draft George Kittle. I mean, that you want to do some crazy Titan and tight end premium maybe, but I mean, I wouldn't do that outside of that format because that's how compelling Kittle is. And like you said, some of it is just the. Not just the Persona, but the Persona is compelling. It's him or Rob Gronkowski as like the he. There's like being an archetype, like a Hall of Famer, and then there's the guy that is the true like Greek God of the position, like took the biggest position to the Platonic ideal, basically like Mount Olympus. That's George Kittle because he's great at everything that a tight end does. He's great at everything a tight end does. And then I, you know, I love the joyful warriors. I love taking joyful warriors on my team. And you can share in that greatness. Okay, so. But the elephant in the room, if we're gonna before because the seas have.
Brandon Thorne
Parted like you said, to stay on Kittle, though. I. My favorite Brandon Thorne story was when Doug Gottlieb was going on this rant about why George Kittle isn't like much of a blocker. And then Brandon Thorne just sent, oh, Doug Gottlieb this reel of George Kill just blocking out the sun, you know, like melting face Max. Right, right. As a blocker. And it was great.
Evan Silva
Yeah. I think. Doesn't he have like a dog rescue farm or something like that? He just maybe like a 5 acre, like for like dogs that, you know, life has been hard to. To just kind of hang out in a nice farm. He's. He's just the man. Okay, so. But the elephant in the room with this parting of the seas offense and I think you're right. Too, that we should always take a moment out to say, of course, Kyle Shanahan, but also Brock Purdy as the mystery relevant. And what I like about this, especially for fantasy oven, is you could tell they let him take it out for a walk a little more last year. You know, he could play closer to the razor's edge and he was comfortable there. He, he was able to play outside of structure more. And we know he's mastered the structure. But what about Christian McCaffrey? And before I hand it off to you, you know what I really like about fantasy drafts this year, Evan, is that in the first round, you have to take a stand. You have to, you can't. There's no ADP arbitrage. There's no, like, well, make sure to draft a running back or make sure to draft a wide receiver. And there's even level tiers of like five players mixed up, running backs and wide receivers, whether you're in the front half of the round or the back half of the round. And it's not even clear if it's better to be in the front or back half of the round. You know, it's. It's just that it's. Someone said what draft pick I want this year. Like, I mean, there's not a clear. It's not because you have to take a stand. And Christian McCaffrey, I think, embodies that more than anybody. We have now a sample. I mean, we, you know, no news is good news. I don't know if you're sitting like, seven, eight, nine. You better have clarity. What? Give us some clarity.
Brandon Thorne
Yeah, and I think that you say that, and I agree with it because this is an awesome, awesome first round. I mean, it's hard to poke holes in almost anybody in this first round. And I would say that even extends to pick like 17. I think that this, the. The first 17 players, I mean, you could mix them up almost any which way. And, and that requires. Because they're all awesome picks, and then that requires you to take that stand because everyone's awesome, you know, so you gotta pick your favorites. So. So you have to like, almost come up with nitpicks to push guys down. And, you know, there is a nitpick with Christian McCaffrey and that's that he's going to be 29 and a half years old when the season starts. And that he is coming off a season where he ruined your fantasy season if you drafted him. And, you know, that's. That's pretty much it, though. I mean, he's got a lot of mileage on him. I mean, in the NFL, he, they use the crap out of him at Stanford too. So he's got a lot of mileage on him and he's almost 30. I have him at number 11 overall. So I, I never, ever get Christian McCaffrey and, and it, it, it scares me. I mean, I'm not gonna lie about that. I mean, again, I think that the 49ers are in for a bounce back season. Christian McCaffrey is like a Hall of Fame level player, you know, but I, I think that you can nitpick him a little bit more than the running backs that I have ranked ahead of him. And it just comes down to that.
Evan Silva
Yeah, it's tough. It's really, I mean, weighing Derrick Henry against him. Astrocenty and another player. It's really interesting to watch in real time. I mean, we've kind of come full circle, Evan. I mean, you and I've been doing this together for a long time, and the information edge doesn't exist anymore. And even the different layers and levels of analysis and angles, like, everybody has all that at their fingertips. Now. You want analytics, you want tape, like film based analysis, et cetera, you know, experts on teams and so on. So we've come full circle back to like, take your, like, who do you, who do you believe in? Who, who, who, who do you want? Who do you want to be on your team? Like, you have a team, you're picking your players for your team and not getting into all these tricks and shortcuts. And so like you said, we're nitpicking. So a player there in the second half of the first round, and we talked about Shanahan, so we have to talk about McVeigh, right? And Matthew Stafford and his back. And, you know, do we trust Jimmy garoppolo and Sean McVeigh enough that you see Pukinaku now there in the second round? You see Devonte Adams in the late third round, Kyron Williams in the late third round. Are we, are we putting our faith in McVeigh and Garoppolo this year?
Brandon Thorne
Oh, man, this is really, really tricky. And I think, you know, it's maybe the most impactful situation going on right now as we speak, because the Rams keep saying that Matthew Stafford is going to return to practice this day or that day, and he keeps not hitting the timelines that, that they set for him. Jordan Rodrigue, who, you know, is awesome, you know, covers the Rams, I think she's actually considered a national reporter. Yeah, yeah, but, you know, obviously she covered the Panthers and then she covered the Rams. I mean, super in depth. Like, no one goes harder than Jordan Rodrigue on, On covering a team. And I mean, she's like friends with less sneed. You know, like, I think they like talk all the time. So she has like legit info. And she said that she would be concerned if Matthew Stafford was not back by Aug. 5 for the Rams inter squad. You know, scrimmage, scrimmages with. I believe that with the commanders maybe, and, and. And Matthew Stafford was not back by then. And then the Rams said that he was gonna. That Matthew Stafford was going to be back on Monday, recording this on Tuesday, and Matthew Stafford was not back by Monday. And Matthew Stafford has a history of back problems. And Matthew Stafford is 37 years old. So it's, it's really scary. I think, especially for devonte Adams. I do think that, that Jimmy Garoppolo would be good enough at getting the ball to Puka Nukua in high percentage situations for Puka and Nukua to pay off an early second round price. We want Matthew Stafford in there for, for Devonte Adams, no questions asked. And so that. He's like a really scary click now, you know. No. No matter where. No matter where he is on the board.
Evan Silva
Yeah, that's a fair. You know, it's interesting too that devonte Adams said because they played together, Garoppolo and Devonte on the Raiders and he's. And he made sure to say, oh, no, like, we're good. Like he was. Jimmy Garoppolo was not the problem. And I can't remember who it was. That reaction said, oh, no, Stafford's back must be bad. Must be really bad. You know, that's what devonte Adams is saying. And you're. I mean, you're right. Puka, you know, he just might be one of those dudes I love. Sometimes, Evan, you, you know, you hear something and it just sticks with you. And Greg Branos is amazing. Doing coach speak index. And every time I talk to him, I want to put out there, like, someone needs to be doing player speak index. And it's not as easy to like measure it for reliability, but just compile this stuff because I think it was Jared Verse who's awesome. Jared versus, like, easily should become one of the faces of the NFL.
Brandon Thorne
I was going to say, like, look at what his odds are for defensive player of the year and like bet.
Evan Silva
That yeah, yeah, he's awesome. And him telling the story about working out with Aaron Donald is also fantastic, like, must see stuff. But he said it was. I think it was a day that the secondary was having a good day in practice. And he was talking up how the secondary is having a good day, and he said they were doing good against everyone except Puka Nakua because he's a psychopath. So maybe it doesn't matter. I mean, Puka Nuku might be. And again, like the moving train. Like, he missed all that time last year with that knee issue, and then when he came back, he was better than he was as a rookie.
Brandon Thorne
I. What an unbelievable turn of events that was last year. You know, I also, I heard from. From a scout one time that the guys. Where do you go to college again?
Evan Silva
Oh, my God.
Brandon Thorne
Oh, my God.
Evan Silva
Like Utah.
Brandon Thorne
We're gonna have to cut this out, right?
Evan Silva
I know. It's the old man. Brains. Ha.
Brandon Thorne
She's cut this out.
Evan Silva
Yeah, right.
Brandon Thorne
Oh, byu.
Evan Silva
Byu. Not Utah. Byu. Sorry.
Brandon Thorne
Yeah, I knew it was somewhere out west and the scout was like, you know, the. The guys at BYU were surprised that Puka Nukua made it in the NFL because that guy never worked out. That guy did not go into the weight room. And I mean, he went in the fifth round like he was far from a lock, you know what I'm saying? And it could have been because, like, we have. Yeah, he's a good player, but, like, he doesn't work out, you know. Well, yeah, he obviously doesn't need to go to the weight room, but that just kind of a funny story.
Evan Silva
Oh, yeah, no, he's different. I mean, that's the one. That's the point. Like, the rules that apply to other guys just might not apply to him. And yeah, Devonte Adams, it gets tough, you know, again, like we talked about George Kittle, I think, you know, again, Jameson Williams, George Pickens, real interesting guys that I'm starting to look at. If we're worried about Stafford Adams, Devonte Adams still has it for sure. But you're right. I think that Puka is the one that might be less affected. All right, let's go through some of a couple other. The more compelling stories where it's easy to take aside. Right. Because I'm seeing. I guess I was a little taken aback, but that I adjusted to pretty quickly that more than not, often than not, Saquon Barkley's not running back one, and sometimes he's not even running back two. And I guess this is like escape to where the puck's going to be to not where it's been, you know, there's 480 plus touches last year for Barkley, Jameer Gibbs, you know, well, what more can we say about him as far as how he's translated the NFL? And then Bijon Robinson with Michael Penix, you maybe. Is this offense going to really be credible? What could that potentially mean? How do you sort these three out? Can you sort these three out?
Brandon Thorne
Man? Michael Penix, I mean, the, the ceiling of Michael Penix is really fun to think, to think about because he can really, really sling it, you know, and, and he showed us flashes of that in his three starts. I thought he looked pretty good for the most part. Drake London had an like 190 yard game or something like that in there, you know, and we need to get Darnell Mooney back. I think that he, he matters because he's a guy who can win downfield and that's where Michael Pennix throws the ball the best. And there were some kind of not 100 encouraging comments from Raheem Morris about Darnell Mooney this morning. Right? Yeah. So we'll see about that. And we'll see about Kyle Pitts. I mean, Kyle Pitts is 24 years old. He should be the healthiest that he's been since his rookie season when he had over a thousand yards. So I, I think that the pieces around Michael Penix are a little bit questionable with the exception of Drake London, who, by the way, Brian Baldinger was at Falcons camp last week and he was like, you know, I've been going to training camps like for the last 30 years and I've never seen a practice where every single ball went to Drake London. Just, I've never seen a practice like that where just one guy was getting the ball on like every single passing play. But I mean, that offense is starting to look like it's going to be very, very concentrated though. But with Michael Pennix, like, I bet him to lead the NFL in passing yards at 30 to 1 and to go over 4, 500 passing yards at 13 to 1. I think that I like that one the best. But yeah, I mean, I, the, the ceiling of Michael Penix is like leading the NFL in passing yards. Like, I think that that's within his range of potential outcomes. The other topics were, what now?
Evan Silva
Like, well, just how do we sort out. And I'd like Pennix. I mean, I think you're right to cast Pennix as a dude who isn't gonna be what we saw in the three starts. He's not going to be overwhelmed at all. He's going to dictate. He's going to dictate some things to the defense, especially when he has someone like Drake London to throw to. And we'll see about comments. But it's sorting out. Like say you draft, you pick third or fourth or fifth, and you may have to sort out Bijan Robinson, Jameer Gibbs and Saquon Barkley.
Brandon Thorne
Yeah, yeah. I mean, I have, you know, that's my first tier of running backs. That's probably the vast majority of people's first tier of running backs. And I actually have Jameer Gibbs first overall right now. But I, I was drafting him so much that I started to take Bijan first overall just because, just to hedge a little bit. Now I'm thinking about moving Bijan up ahead of him because I think that this could be that, that Bijan year, you know, where he just goes ballistic. I also, I mean, we saw Jameer Gibbs go ballistic last year. And I also think that with the new offensive coordinate, you know, Ben Johnson was really good at distributing the ball. You know, getting Jameer Gibbs and David Montgomery, keeping those guys involved, you know, obviously getting the ball to a Monroe St. Brown. Jameson Williams goes over a thousand yards. You know, Tim Patrick had a few moments. They used the Highest percentage of 2 tight end sets in the league. And I just think that, you know, the new coordinator, John Morton, I don't know that he's going to be focused on, you know, distributing the ball as much and he's going to want to get the ball to his best players. And Jameer Gibbs and I have lots of love for David Montgomery, but Jameer Gibbs is like way better than David Montgomery. Yeah. So, you know, that's. And also the Lions have the third toughest schedule in the NFL this year. So I don't think there's going to. They're going to be winning 13 to 14 games. I don't think they're going to be blowing teams out. And if they have to play from behind or in competitive situations more, they're going to play their best players and that's going to be Jameer Gibbs. And then with Saquon Barkley, it's just, it's the touch count. I have him as the fifth overall player. I rarely get him, although I don't never get them. But it's hard to get Saquon Barkley at fifth overall because he usually goes in the top four. But I mean, he is five years older. Jameer Gibbs and Bijon Robinson were born like a month apart. He is five years old. Seagull And Barkley is five years older than both of those guys.
Evan Silva
Right.
Brandon Thorne
And coming off this massive usage season, so. And you know, has never really strung together two healthy seasons in a row himself, so that. Again, we're nitpicking. Okay? Saquon Barkley is a great fantasy pick, no question. But when we're forced to nitpick, I'm going with the guys that are half decade younger, and that's Bijan Robinson and. And Jameer Gibbs, by the way. I'm saying that. Right, Right.
Evan Silva
Yeah. Yes. Yes, that's right. We gotta. When players ask, then we gotta do that. I know, I know. Tedro McMillan's mother, I think, wants us to say Ted Rose. So we're going to do that too, out of respect. Always respect to the game. So. And I like the way you cast it. I mean, look, you're still ranking Saquon Barkley fifth. So this isn't like, well, Saquon Barkley is going to break down this year, avoid him in the first round because like we talk about, the second half of the first round is pretty compelling. The players you can take there, too. So we're not saying that. We're just saying that when we have to split hairs between these top three, the two are on the upside of their career. The other is at the peak of his career, not necessarily in decline. And if Barkley ends up being the number one running back again, which obviously he can, it might just be because, like, a player this good in a situation this good, it just doesn't happen that often. You know, that's the part. And Derek. And I think it applies to Derek Henry, too. That's why Derek Henry can get even better this year. We might look back and say Derek Henry was actually the pick. The Eric. Derek Henry has 25 touchdowns this year. Something outlandish that seems outlandish. You know, that's what's fun, is every single one of these six running backs in the first round, Ashton Genti, you can make a case for. And we will look back and say, like, that was the best pick out of the six. Any. Any of them. And then the same thing goes for the wide receivers. But I want to stick with running backs because there's more polarizing. Okay. We have a week of Breeze hall in the preseason. It kind of matched what we should have expected. Yet he's still going to stay in the third round. Evan. Because there's gonna be somebody in your draft that's like, I know that dude balls out. And whatever the plan is and whatever I've seen him. If I can get him in the third round. I took him in the top five last year, I'm gonna take him in the third round this year. Are you gonna give that guy high five or just kind of shake your head?
Brandon Thorne
No, no. To me, Breeze hall, like the best outcome for him would be for him to get traded to like Dallas or something like that. Because this is, this isn't adding up to not a great situation. I think he might, there's a chance he could get out carried by Braylon Allen. I mean, Braylon Allen is coming like a freaking freight train. Like a 235 pound freight train. This is a guy that went to Wisconsin as a linebacker and was like the, I think he was the youngest player drafted last year. So he is still, I mean he's still in his development, developmental phase. So I mean, we don't know what his ceiling is like because he's like, he's a pup still. And it, it would not, it should not shock anybody if he goes from a player who was like pretty, pretty good as a rookie to like an absolute beast in his second season. You know, any, anybody in the NFL will tell you like, players tend to make their biggest jumps in their second year. And that should especially be the case for a guy that's that young like Braylon Allen is. You know, to me, like one of Bruce Hall's biggest strengths is his pass catching ability. And I think that that's not going to be utilized in this offense because first of all, they're just not going to throw the ball. I mean, they had 39 rushing attempts in their preseason opener. And Justin Fields on third down, he does one of three things. He throws the ball to his first read, which is not going to be a running back on third down. He, or he, he's going to take off or he's going to take a sack.
Evan Silva
Right.
Brandon Thorne
He does three things and none of them involve throwing the ball to Breeze Hall.
Evan Silva
Right.
Brandon Thorne
So timeshare, reception concerns and how many touchdowns are the jets going to score and isn't Braylon Allen get the. Going to get the ball at the goal line? Like this is just not adding up to me on paper with Breeze hall. Even as a believer in his talent, like I want to see him go to a different team.
Evan Silva
Yeah, I think you're right that it's just too much to row upstream against for Breeze hall and it's not ideal. And certainly at this point you're just ignoring all the prevailing trends. Now the prevailing trends in terms of adp Continue to push a Marion Hampton up like past Breeze hall and certainly now in that third round mix where how, what's our level of excitement there?
Brandon Thorne
Yeah, I think that he's an auto click in the third round. Amaran Hampton, third round. George Kittle, fourth round, you know.
Evan Silva
Right.
Brandon Thorne
Fast forward to, you know, and then we can go home. No, I'm kidding. But I, I think that, yeah, this is, I mean, I don't even know like, well, because the Naji Harris situation, I mean, you know, I talked to a, a guy who's an eye doctor and I told him that this guy, you know, Naji Harris has been out for like a month, you know, over a month. And he's like routine eye injuries heal within like three days. That is a very quick healing part of the body. The fact that this guy's eye is not healed in over a month, you know, I, I, I don't know that that's not good. You know, and the Chargers have really given us no reason to believe that he's gonna be back anytime soon. I mean it's almost like they've been hiding him.
Evan Silva
Yes.
Brandon Thorne
And I don't look at their, look at their running back depth chart after, after that. I mean Kamani Vidal, you know, this, this looks like, and Greg Roman historically has definitely ran committee backfields. I just don't know who else are they going to involve here. Omarion Hampton was a really, he caught a ton of passes at North Carolina. He had two. No other North Carolina player was drafted this past year. And Omarion Hampton was still just lights out as a producer this past year. I mean that, that tells you something like the entire, the defense on every play was keying in on Omarion Hampton and he was still doing big things. I mean, you know, the speed score is out of this world can catch passes. I mean I, I think it's adding up like you know, offensive player that or offensive rookie of the year type season for Omarion Hampton. So I think he's an auto click in the third round.
Evan Silva
The opportunity should be there and I just can't get past that. I, he never, when I watched him, he never really impressed me. He never really there was, he's kind of linear, you know, Caleb Johnson similar. Quinton Judkins was kind of similar.
Brandon Thorne
And then Caleb Johnson, it seems like is having some struggles. What about the Rayshawn Slater situation?
Evan Silva
Well, go ahead.
Brandon Thorne
Yeah. See to me, like, like Brandon Thorne does our offensive line analysis and he's the best I put him up against anybody, but man, he sunk the Chargers from like a top 10 offensive line to number 25. And I was like, man, is Brandon overreacting Because they can, you know, Joe Alt was a two time first team all American left tackle, you know, as recently as, not this season, but the, the season before. And I mean they can move him and then they, I mean they, they have Trey Pipkins who, I mean, I know he's not good. It's, it's a big downgrade, but I mean you still have like, you know, maybe an All Pro or Pro bowl caliber left tackle. You know, this is not a situation like if the Bucks have to play games without Tristan Wurfs, they have to go with Charlie Heck at left tackle. That like, that is a huge problem potentially. I think the Chargers can, can absorb this.
Evan Silva
Yeah, I don't think. Well, I also think there's an unknown with the Chargers of Justin Herbert. If he can stay healthy, like how much does that elevate the offense as a whole and are we just generally underestimating Justin Herbert? It's really fun to watch what Jim Harbaugh is doing with him. Like the psychological, like the mind games that Jim Harbaugh's playing with him, I think in Herbert's interest. And going back to what you said really quick about the Najee Harris Hampton thing. Every time they ask Jim Harbaugh, he's just like, oh, he's on the team. I don't know. Ask the gm. I mean really, he, like you said.
Brandon Thorne
At one point, he said, oh, we're praying for him.
Evan Silva
Right?
Brandon Thorne
And I was like, oh boy.
Evan Silva
Yeah. And it does seem like just really almost. I mean, I'm down here in New Orleans. I feel like was there some sort of like hex put on Naji Harris or something? I don't know, man. It's a weird situation, but one that's going to open the door for Mary Hampton. Okay, let's stick with rookie running backs really quick because two different rookie running back, two other rookie running backs. And by the way, I do want to say as we go back to rookie hype that you're right that maybe we should pay more attention to second year players because they're the ones that we're not as excited to draft and they're the ones that actually can show that big leap from year one to year two. But let's two rookies that had big weekends in terms of the bull case to draft them. RJ Harvey was the basically the running back one for the Broncos and then Travion Henderson, you know, if you're like hey, Travion Henderson is like gonna blow things up a la Jamir Gibbs. Then the way he looked in his first preseason game did nothing to dispel that. So I think Henderson now you have to think about in the fourth round. Harvey. I'll start thinking about in the fifth round again. More players that get excited about drafting. That's the theme.
Brandon Thorne
Yeah. These are two exciting guys. Have you talked to Cecil about. Okay, so it's funny how our world works these days with RJ Harvey. Somebody asked Benjamin Albright about or mentioned to Benjamin Albright that RJ Harvey had started and obviously you know, he worked with. He was like the, the sole first team running back in the first preseason game. And then Ben Albright responded, yeah, it was supposed to be J.K. dobbin Dobbins starting but he couldn't find his helmet. So. So he wasn't out there. So you know all the analysis that goes into RJ Harvey dominating the first team reps could be null and void if it was just because J.K. dobbins couldn't find his helmet right before the game.
Evan Silva
Right. Perfect. That's right. You always fact like check your sources, right?
Brandon Thorne
Yeah.
Evan Silva
With Travion Henderson and he's had more.
Brandon Thorne
Of an age out of a cannon. Oh my God.
Evan Silva
Right, so is this one again where you know, George Kittle's gone. Are we reserving a pick for Travion Henderson now? Looking at him as a fourth rounder but somebody who can even clearly exceed that.
Brandon Thorne
Yeah, that's, that's a little, it's a little early, I feel like, you know, and I, I mean again, shout out of a cannon. It's just I, I kind of think that Ramandre Stevenson is still a pretty good player and I, and Josh McDaniels has a very long history of multi back usage. But I, I mean Trayvon Henderson is fun. He is, he's fun. I think that this offense could be fun. I think that Drake may has a chance to take a really big second year leap. I think he's a stud and he's going to bring, if that happens, he's going to bring guys along with him. I mean he, he has I think the potential to like elevate players around him. Fourth round's a little bit early for Travion Henderson. I mean I get it though, you know, I mean it's okay to swing for the fences and he's, he's a fence swing. I just don't think that Ramandre is going to go away.
Evan Silva
Yeah, just respect for Mondre Stevenson and again, coach speak, right. I mean when they're bringing up when the names that come up are Shane Vereen and Danny Woodhead now Shane Vereen and Danny Woodhead and more. And I think there's an acknowledgment there by Josh McDaniels. But it just at the beginning of the season we'll see how, where things stand like week 8, week 9 and week 10. But Ramondi Stevenson can do enough to, to show that he doesn't. He shouldn't be swept aside in the roles that he's probably more physically gifted than Henderson. You know, short yardage. And he's a good three down back too. All right, last running back we want to talk about. And this is another one of those injury situations, right? Because Clint Kubiak was super excited to get Ken Walker. We know that if the dude could just stay on the field for 16 or 17 games now he became a pass catcher last year and there was nothing indicating that that part of his repertoire was going to go away under Clint Kubiak. You know, Kenneth Walker absolutely could put together a top six, top eight fantasy season again. We could watch Kenneth Walker for the first two or three weeks and say, oh, he should have been a second round pick. He should. We should have been taking him. We were taking Jonathan Taylor if he could just stay healthy. And now he's not healthy, Evan. And then the other thing starts to become like, now do you start, do we start steaming? Jack, Zach Charbonnet up the board? You know, part of me feels like, oh, like Zach Charbonnet is just staring at you in the eighth or ninth round. Now, especially if you do a draft strategy, a build where you slough your running back too. You get your top running back, the hero running back and you say, and then I'm going to hammer away, you know, George Kittle. And then there's all these receivers that you can take in the fifth, sixth, seventh round. Like that's a rich vein of wide receivers that you're gonna like. You said Ricky Piersol, that was a great one. You know, Crystal Lobby is available in the six round. Crystal Lobby in this, in the sixth round. You know, you might even like Debo Samuel. Speaking of Debo. And there's Maroma Dunze. I mean, there's so many guys that again, we could watch for the first month and say they were going two or three or four rounds later than they should have. So how you know, we're guessing that's what fantasy football is, right? Making these stands on incomplete Information and pretending we can predict the future. Where are we at at this moment, Evan? On the Seattle backfield?
Brandon Thorne
Yeah, this is a tough one, no doubt. And it's. It comes down to Kenneth Walker's health, because I think that when he's healthy, he is. He's the main back, you know, like a 65 to 70 back over Zach Charbonnet. But he, you know, like you just said, he's not healthy. He's dealing with this foot injury that is apparently a recurring thing. Like, he's had this problem before. And the offensive environment is definitely not. You know, you look at any offensive line rankings, the Seahawks are going to be bottom five. And you know, Sam Darnold, I mean, Sam Donald had a really nice season in a really nice environment last year, and now he's going to an environment that's pretty questionable. New offensive coordinator, who I think will probably do a pretty good job in Clint Kubiak, but he's a new offensive coordinator and he, you know, Zach Charbonnet has been out there every day and Kenneth Walker has not. So, I mean, there are. Are places in the draft where I'll draft either of these guys. It's usually past their ADP because. Because there's, you know, a lot of moving parts here and uncertainty.
Evan Silva
Yeah. Damien Martinez. Just remember the name Damien Martinez.
Brandon Thorne
Hey, he's an interesting guy.
Evan Silva
Oh, yeah. This is the year, the seventh round running back. I love the seventh round. Like, I. To me, the question isn't, will a seventh round running back maybe make a fantasy impact this year?
Brandon Thorne
Yeah.
Evan Silva
Like, how many of them?
Brandon Thorne
It feels like right now one of them is going to do it.
Evan Silva
Jacori Crosby, Mayor is like, you know, Evan, I mean, I wonder if the people out there like to watch the Olympics. I love watching the Olympics. And, you know, you have those sometimes the, like the track and field races where as they're coming down the stretch, you can just see somebody's got that momentum and that's what it A Crosby Merit feels like in. In Washington backfield now. So, yeah, that's a good one to get out there is like. And we're to that time I did a draft with Dave Kluge. NFC main event draft. We live streamed it last night and I was. It was like the 13th round. I'm like, this is about where you take Jakory Cross Merit and he's like, well, the ADPs like in the 200s and then Corey Cross merit went like two picks before us. Yeah, right. So the point is, take three. You got to take these guys like 11, 12. Like don't, don't get cute with it because the potential reward is massive. So you can't talk yourself out of a. Well, I'm gonna try to win at the margin here and I'll kick it down the block another round when it's a player like Jacori, Crosby, Merritt and then we're gonna see how Kyle Manangai, we're gonna. Rashard Smith I think just keep him on the waiver wire watch list at this point it's, we could be coming back to him. And then Damien, Damien Martinez we mentioned also so because Kenny McIntosh's injury and I think Damian Martinez had a really good day in pass pro. Yeah, that just is like these things catch your attention as we got a few more minutes before we go off the rails. What else Real quick though while we got. Who's your quarterback? Who's the quarterback you're running up the most with so far?
Brandon Thorne
It started out Justin Fields because I mean he could finish as a top five fantasy quarterback and you could get him at quarterback 12 for a while and then I think people woke up to that. I just think that they're going to run the crap out of them. And we saw in the first preseason game like I mean he, he Already has an 1130 yard rushing season with 8 rushing touchdown season on his resume. If he throws for 20 and he runs for a thousand and seven, he's going to absolute crush any quarterback 12. But he has been starting to, to come up. It has started to be Dak Prescott because I think that the Cowboys are built to throw the ball. I mean they don't have like a workhorse running back on their roster right now. And if they go get Breeze hall, great because Breeze hall would give him another pass catching weapon. But I think this, this offense is going to flow through CD Lamb and George Pickens is killing it in practice every day. And I think that Jake Ferguson, you know he had 71 catches in 20, 23. The last, that's the last year that Dak Prescott was healthy. Their, their offensive line, they've dodged some bullets on their offensive line. I think that if those, if the offensive line stays together they could have a top five offensive line. They've invested a ton of draft picks into that unit and I think Dak Prescott, I mean he's, he's a guy who could lead the the NFL and passing yards.
Evan Silva
Yeah, well you see him in the same vein as like Joe Burrow basically as far as how he can get there to a top five fantasy finish, boosting him in leagues with six point pass touchdowns, 300 yard passing game bonuses and so on. And then I'm finding myself again fascinated with George Pickens. You know, I really, I, I continue to toy with the idea, Evan, that we could see him make a leap that is much greater than anyone's anticipating in terms of how his talents translate to production because he's been having to again to row upstream against adverse conditions and now he's gonna have the wind at his back. So this, this is fun. And Dak Prescott has been a top five top six fantasy quarterback already in similar circumstances. So all, all of this, this, this.
Brandon Thorne
Cowboy Dak Prescott's last healthy season, 2023, he was second in M&NFL MVP voting.
Evan Silva
Right? Right. Yeah. So it's this, he's like quarterback 11, quarterback 12. I'm finding myself taking a lot of. Jalen hurts too, just because I, one of the things that is like a, a building block in my preparation this year is the Eagles are going to pass more. They just, it's just math like they're gonna pass more this year. Jalen hurts is good. Devonte Smith is good. AJ Brown is good. And AJ Brown's ADP has fallen about like six or nine picks from last year. Devonte Smith has fallen like two rounds from last year. And it's just, I think it's just a reaction to a season where everything went perfect for the Eagles and it's just not going to happen again that way. All right, what else last, before we just get off of the off ramp here, like what else has your attention from the last couple weeks? What else is making you go back to the drawing board and say, do I have to rethink this?
Brandon Thorne
Well, I, I think that on any fantasy show you gotta talk about Tyreek Hill. Oh, you know, because, and I, I want to get your thoughts on, on the Tyree Kill situation first and then I can, you know, counter or just add what I have. Because I, I, I just want to, you know, I, I, you're one of the smartest dudes that I talk to every year and I just want to get your take, you know, because, and you're a vibes based person, you know, you have good instincts and so I want to hear what you have to say about Tyreek Hill. Yeah.
Evan Silva
And it's really been stunning how the Dolphins went from like this massive efficiency, production, adding offense to one that was futile last year. And we're trying to sift through the pieces and figure out, well, I mean, Devin HN is still going at the same place, so I'll. I'll just step to these really quick. Devin Hn, I honestly, I'm taking Bucky Irving and Chase Brown over him at this point. Like, if I'm. If I'm at a point on the clock where I'm looking at Devon hn, I'm probably, like, talking myself into taking Brown or Irving over him. Just because this offense and you got Tyree Kill shoot his mouth off about short yardage. Jalen Wright, short yardage problems. Alexander Madison, who probably was going to do the short yardage carries. He goes down. Now, the offensive line was a bigger worry for me earlier in the off season, but it sounds like Patrick Paul is ready to play. Sava Savage, I think ready to play. So that could be okay. But still, like, I look at this whole thing, Evan, you know, like in the movie, when, like, the car, like, puts the brakes on right at the cliff, and then, like, the front of the car is, like, teetering over and they're creating the suspense, like, oh, and the car, like, falls into the canyon and explodes. That's kind of what I feel like the Dolphins are right now, you know, and Tyreek Hill's part of that. And speaking. And Jalen Waddle, I'm fine within the physics round because the trade of Johnny Smith now opens up some weird, like, flash funhouse doors where Jalen Waddle can absolutely catch 100, 105 passes and fifth round ADP again, another receiver in the fifth or sixth round that is like, okay, I'll take that in the fifth or sixth round. Wide fifth, sixth round, or wide receiver rounds this year. And so I'm okay with Waddle. But now we get to Tyreek Hill and, you know, if you like metrics on hitting top speeds, because if it was his wrist, his wrist shouldn't affect how fast he can run. You know, he wasn't as fast as he was in the past. And then you have the tua, and I love tua. He's a real sweetheart. I mean, I think it looks rare that we would say that about a football player, especially a quarterback. But, you know, him being really frank and saying, like, yeah, our relationship is. Is. We're working on it, basically because saying, like, Tyreek is growing up. He's saying something to that effect. But all that stuff makes me think, like, I. I mean, I. When it comes right down to it, Evan, when I'm drafting a player, I'm trusting them again. We're just back to, like, who do I want on my Team. I don't want Tyreek Hill on my team.
Brandon Thorne
Yeah. You know, and I, I just. I was trying to think of. Of any positive bit of news about Tyree Kill. When was the last time that anything positive happened?
Evan Silva
Yeah, like two years.
Brandon Thorne
Hill. And it was probably the end of the 2023 season.
Evan Silva
Yeah.
Brandon Thorne
He was at 1.7 yards per route run last year, the lowest of his career. If you read Matt Harmon's reception perception, this is a guy that clearly is in decline. He's 31 years old. He almost got arrested outside the Dolphin stadium before a game. He's classed publicly with his coach and his quarterback repeatedly. I mean, to, you know, as recently as like a week and a half ago was like, yeah, we have to repair our relationship. You know, couldn't we have already done that? You know, he's. Tyreek Hill has acted kind of crazy on social media and I just, I don't know where his head is at. And I don't, you know, I don't know if he's gonna be a member of the Dolphins by the end of the season. I actually think that the Chiefs should try to trade for him.
Evan Silva
Right, Right. So it sounds like we are one on the same mind on, like. No, don't even bother Tyreek Hill. I mean, I just.
Brandon Thorne
I can't click it.
Evan Silva
Yeah, I think David Dodds. Amazing. What's up? David Dodds, one of the co founders of Football Guys, Eliminate the Suck, I think was his article. And a good place to start, like with on your ADP list is just taking out your black marker, your Sharpie, and just putting it through certain names. And Tyree Kill is absolutely one of those names for me. And, you know, that's just, that's the way it's going now. We'll go off the rails and first I'm going to monopolize this. But excitement, excitement is the theme today. Well, let me tell you, the excitement at my house right now is that we're on baby turtle watch. I think when you came, I might have showed you the turtle pen in the back. We're up to like 20 some turtles back there. We're hybridizing them. We have an eastern box turtle, and we have like hybrid eastern and western desert box turtles. And early August is when the eggs hatch. You know, you know, nature does its thing and they bury the eggs. And, you know, these little guys are not parented, okay? They hatch from their egg under the earth and they dig up and then they're like on their own. They're like, okay, I'm exist now. Like, there's no one to tell them what to do. They kind of lay low. You can tell, like, they've been around for 40 or 50 million years. They've survived, like, crazy extinctions. I have a ton of respect for them. I was in New Mexico, my old stomping grounds, and I loved horny toads when I was a kid. I used to collect them up because they're so docile to let you pick them up. And I build Lego houses for them. And then one of them had babies in the house, and my mom said, no more. And. But I was looking for some sort of horny toad representation when I was in New Mexico, and a Navajo man said, oh, grandfather, like they call the horny toed grandfather. And when you know that box turtles have been around for 40 or 50 million years, they're like our ancestors. All these animals are our ancestors. When you get right down to it. That's not even, like, poetic talk. That's real talk. But it's exciting, Evan, like, for real. Like, the miracle of life. Like, when I see one of the babies, because we have, like, a little nursery so they don't have to compete with the big ones for food. And, like, I'm. I'm genuinely, like, childlike excited. Like, I come in the house if anyone's here, and it's exciting, and then you feel the immediate, like, I must protect this thing. I must protect it. I must protect it. But what's something in your life right now that excites you? Like, genuinely excite you?
Brandon Thorne
Oh, man, the. Well, I don't. Man, the Chicago Cubs, they're.
Evan Silva
Yes.
Brandon Thorne
You know, I mean, I. I what? Well, you know, we've been going through kind of like a rough patch because the Milwaukee brewers are the. The greatest team in the history of Major League Baseball, you know, and obviously, they're in our division, and the Cubs have the fifth best record in baseball. And, like, it's like every day we. We lose another game to the Milwaukee brewers, because they never lose. They've either won nine or ten in a row right now, and the Cubs just lost two of three to the Cardinals. And now they got to play eight straight games against first against teams that are in first place. They have three games against the Toronto Blue Jays and then five games at Wrigley against the brewers because there's a double header in there. And I. I don't know if excited would be the right word, but, like, you know, that's. You know, the fantasy football is, like, work, you know, and then and then the Cubs game and all I have it like on like in the background while I'm working.
Evan Silva
Sure.
Brandon Thorne
But you know, I'm like, you know, I'm excited every day to, to, to listen or, or watch absolutely them because it's, it's kind of like my outlet.
Evan Silva
Oh gosh. Yeah. I mean I, I, my first love was baseball. I listened to the Pirates on the radio. I had my little book that I would like erase and update the stats. I wanted to be the play by play announcer for the Pirates. That's part of the story of like how we get here to this moment right now. And I think having a baseball team and you're a season ticket holder which takes us to a whole other level. But having a baseball team because it's every day, it's like six days a week. Right. It's, there's a devotion. It's like going to the church and like putting, or going to the cemetery and putting like flowers on your ancestors grave or something where like you're faithful and you get to know the players. I mean you really like, they're like a family in this weird way. And, and, and you like their players. Like I, I, you know, I mentioned like Pete Crow, Armstrong. Right. Like, I mean just captivating, like an absolutely captivating player like entering stage left for this team. And the Cubs, of course. The other thing of course is the Cubs and I mean yes, they've won a World Series now which I think opened the portal to the Trump years, but that's a whole other story. They won a World Series but before that. And it certainly folks don't remember the Red Sox before. And yes, we're doing baseball talk because baseball is a beautiful sport. It's, it's the, it's poetic and there's a giving of yourself. Like you said, it's not necessarily being excited but it's being so emotionally invested that you're like surrender. It's holy.
Brandon Thorne
I mean absolutely.
Evan Silva
It's a religious, it's more of a religious thing where like football is like bacchanalia. Football is like the sad like the festival, like paint your face and roast some meat and get all intoxicated on like the gods. Baseball's like going to church every day and saying your hymns and keeping the candles lit and you get it connected to your team in a way that I think is what you're describing, what's happening. But then with Chicago you have these long suffering fans like, like that's Harry Carey. Right? I mean it's like, well we know The Cubs aren't going to do anything that we're going to be proud of, so let's at least have a good time at the ballpark. So, yeah, here's the baseball. I'm. We're. I'm a Pirates fan, which is like the ultimate, like, well, Mark Cuban didn't buy the team, so we're just in. Not even in purgatory. Like, we're kind of in the waiting room for purgatory.
Brandon Thorne
Yeah. Dang. They got a beautiful ballpark. They got. Yeah, they got some fun young players.
Evan Silva
You're in baseball and the team still.
Brandon Thorne
Yeah. And. Yeah, and they can't win even when they got Paul Skeens on the mound.
Evan Silva
I mean, he. He is seriously like, Paul Skeens is something out of Top Gun, you know, like he's some sort of 80s action hero who like, walks onto the mound and the Pirates and then the. O' Neill Cruz is like, Predator o' Neill Cruz is also like. So you can tell I'm a kid of the 80s and all of my imagination is just pop culture. But, you know, he. He's. He's. You saw in the Home Run Derby.
Brandon Thorne
Yeah, I was gonna say he is going to win a Home Run Derby before the. Before all is said and done.
Evan Silva
And the players know, right. Like, they consider him a peer to Ellie De La Cruz. They consider him a peer to Fernando Tatis. Like, he's in that fraternity of baseball players. But the Pirates, it just have the stink of loserdom around that team. No matter what they've done. Like, they're doing like, stats of futility of, like, Paul Skeens is having the best start his career a pitcher has ever had in terms of the ra and he has a losing record. And that's how it is to be a Pittsburgh Pirates fan. But much like football, like, I went to Pirate games with my dad every one time, went to Wrigley Field. Every year we would go to a different place and that was like a big part of our relationship. It was intentional, but it was in hindsight, like, accomplished exactly what was intended to accomplish. Baseball, I think, is a backdrop. Football can do this too, for male, like, positive, healthy male relationships and a family and like, good shared memories. And then you have, like, so tell me real quick, last thing for go. Like, give me one thing. Give me one really quick story about being a season ticket holder, because that's a whole other way of having, like, a new family.
Brandon Thorne
I would say it's just, you know, the ability to, you know, take my daughter to games. You know, I mean, it's just super, super fun. And below our seats, there's like, this little club that you can, like, go down and get food in. And they all, Everyone that works there, like, knows her. And, and last year when she went to games, they went 12, the Cubs went 12 and 2. And. And this year she's only been to three games, but they're 3. 0 in the games that she's been to. So they, they call her the good luck charm.
Evan Silva
There you go.
Brandon Thorne
And they, you know, they, they treat her like a little queen. And, you know, that, that's, that's really fun to see. I mean, and we, and I moved a mile and a half from, from the stadium and we walk to games. And that, that in and of itself, just walking to games is like a great experience, you know, and, like, and that's going to allow her to like, know the, the streets, you know. Oh, all right. We take, yeah, we go to Walcott, we take a left on the belt, we take a left onto Paulina, you know, then we're walking down Belmont, and then we go to Addison, and baby, we're here, you know, like.
Evan Silva
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Brandon Thorne
And so she's gonna know that, you know, for the rest of her life because it's just. Because that, that's what we do.
Evan Silva
That's. It's so beautiful. And baseball is part of this too, because I always, I always thought when I was growing up, if I just had a job or I could watch baseball while I'm doing the job, then I haven't made. And boy, brother, do we have it made. And then, like, that's why we sing Take Me out to the Ball Game. Harry, Carrie, again, rest in peace. Because it's just like the idea of like, when you're at the ball game, all your cares go away. Like, we had to have a nice day and walking to the park. I had a dream when I was a kid about walking to a baseball game. I live in a little Podunk coal mining town. Pittsburgh was the big, big, big city where I grew up and my sister and her late first husband got a place on the south side, and I actually walked to a game. I may or may not have ingested some substances that are things that you ingest when you're of a certain age. And. And that was like a truly a dream come true. Evan. It's a dream to have a chance to have the professional relationship we have and the relationship we have, all the people that support, establish the run and football guys. It's a great pleasure. It's a privilege. We've been doing this for a long time, and this is what keeps us coming back, is that we feel the love and the acceptance. And hopefully you feel from us the love that we have for you. Because, you know, we couldn't do this without you. Really, we couldn't. And you're so class.
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Podcast: The Audible
Hosts: Footballguys (Evan Silva, Brandon Thorne, Sigmund Bloom)
Date: August 14, 2025
Main Theme:
Expert fantasy football analysts dive deep on which high-upside players they are targeting in drafts this season—emphasizing cost, opportunity, scheme, and how to make stand-out, league-winning picks. The episode features bold opinions, back-and-forth banter, and real-time debate about draft philosophy, ADP, and positional value.
(01:05 – 04:07)
(04:07 – 08:46)
Evan Silva: “I'm excited to draft George Kittle in the fourth round.”
Brandon Thorne:
Memorable Moment: (08:46)
Thorne: Recounts sending a reel of Kittle as a dominant blocker to Doug Gottlieb, disproving critics with “face-melting” clips.
(09:14 – 12:28)
Evan Silva:
Brandon Thorne:
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Both Silva and Thorne are out on Tyreek.
Memorable Line: (49:56)
"Tyreek Hill has acted kind of crazy on social media and I just, I don’t know where his head is at. And I don’t know if he’s going to be a member of the Dolphins by the end of the season."
(52:29 – End)
Summary prepared for fantasy football managers: Want to win your league? Draft for upside, know where you stand, make bold calls, and pick players you genuinely believe in. Avoid the aging stars with mounting risk, and don’t overlook the fun or the feelings—whether it’s building your team, being with family, or cheering for those long-shot heroes.