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A
Okay, guys, I am here at Indiglo Aesthetic and Wellness Spa with some of my new favorite people. And we are gonna be talking about lip filler, Botox, misconceptions, all the things that you might wanna know if you're like me and just started your aesthetic journey this year. Cause I just got my lips done for the very first time this year. And so. Yeah, introduce yourself. And.
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B
Yeah. Well, I'm Chelsea. I'm a registered nurse. I've been a registered N since 2012. I started out working in dialysis and it was not my favorite, so I decided to look for other opportunities and the world of aesthetics kind of just fell in my lap. So I've kind of ridden the wave of aesthetics, becoming super trendy and popular versus more like flashy and taboo.
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A
Yeah.
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B
Um, and so I've been injecting since 2013. Um, I moved from Tennessee in 2021. Um, and I met Adrienne, the owner of Indiglo through her former life as a sales rep. And she was one of the reps that called on the practice I worked for. So, um, when she called me saying that she had opened this place up, I absolutely jumped on the opportunity to come.
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A
Yeah.
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B
Work with her. I, in 2023, got my certified aesthetic nurse specialist certification, which just means that I've been in the industry, I've done so many trainings and workshops, and I worked under a plastic surgeon at the time, which is one of the requirements for that. So I wouldn't say it's an elite certification to hold, but there aren't that many people that have it. So I think feel like that kind of sets an injector apart from just your run of the mill. Yeah, injector.
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A
Yeah. No, I think it's definitely really important when somebody is going to look for an injector that they have experience and they have history. Because like you said before, it can be such a fad thing that, I mean, I feel like the aesthetic world has really popped off.
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B
Oh, yeah. In the last 10 years with social.
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A
Media and everyone wants everything now and so. But, like, you know, I was hesitant for so long to do stuff is because of just, like, lack of knowing.
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B
Right.
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A
And so working with you, you really talk through all the process.
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B
Right.
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A
So today I got done. I know, guys. I look like a brand new woman. We did, you know, lip filler today, chin filler and Botox. And I really just let Chelsea be like, what do you think Looks good. How do you start with that with your clients that come in and say, like, I Want to look like you said, like, I want to look fresh and new and different, but like, I don't know what it is. Like, how do you tell it apart on like symmetry?
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B
So we're often our own worst critic. And so there's two different types of clients that come in. There are people that come in and they point out the most like minute, minuscule flaw or imperfection and they want it treated. But what they're missing is sometimes the bigger picture, like volume loss or in engraved, etched in lines from just years of, you know, sun exposure and lack of proper skin care. And those things don't even bother them. It's just the tiniest little scar, maybe from a pimple they had 20 years ago or chickenpox. And then you have the other set of clients that come in and they are like, I don't know what I see in the mirror, I don't know what it is, but I don't like it. Fix it all. And so I usually like to start out by educating patients on the problems they're seeing and what's causing them. Because a lot of times people want, you know, their cheeks fixed, but what they're missing is, you know, the texture, the pores, the things like that. So it's not ever going to be just like a one stop shop kind of like you said, like, we did lips, we did chin, we did some talks for your, you know, smile lines. So having people come in and starting with sometimes just the foundation, like, are you using sunscreen? Are you washing your face? Yeah. And then talking to them about what causes lines that are engraved and etched in, which is muscle movement, which is going to be your neurotoxins, your dysport, your Botox, your zmn or, or is it volume loss? Are your cheeks flattened out or do you have bags under your eyes? Is it things like that, which that's going to be your filler or sometimes it's, you know, muscle, you know, fat collections in the lower face. And they're like, well, can I get rid of this without surgery? And there's multiple ways we can approach that. So I usually start with what bothers them the most and then I point out along the way some other options that we can do so that they don't. They might not even notice. Yeah, what's going on?
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A
My audience, they've been paying attention at all. Know that my biggest insecurity is like my jawline and my double chin area. It is genetic. Like my grandmother has like the same shape as me. Like it's just genetic. And so it's really important that I, you know, I don't want to be insecure about it. But also, I'm kind of at the point where it's like, I don't want to get a go under the knife. Right. Surgery. So, like, what can you do to, like, enhance your jawline and sculpt it without surgery?
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B
Yeah, there's a whole bunch of options, and it really just comes down to age, lifestyle. Like, do you have time to do repetitive treatments or do you want, like, a quick fix? You can do Kybella or fat dissolving for the little double chin area. And then another thing that's fun that a lot of people don't understand is that sometimes fillers and neurotoxins can be used to kind of mask different issues that people have without having to get rid of said issue. So, like, for you, we added some chin filler, and it's kind of camouflaged what was going on under your chin.
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A
It's really helped my, like, jawline, which is, like, wild.
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B
Yeah.
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A
That Something not so similar or so small. Like. Yeah, so similar and so small. And you don't. I think a lot of people I know, my biggest fear is especially, like, the money or the time you would invest. Like, you want to make sure you like it.
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B
Right.
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A
Or that you're gonna see a difference. And I do feel like working with a spa, it's so important to have a relationship with the person doing it and know that they have history and background and experience. Yeah. Because people just want to do it for money. And some people don't want to tell you no.
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B
Right. And that's a big thing. I tell people all the time. I'm like, if you're thinking about doing these services, look at your injectors. Because a lot of times, if you don't like the way they look, they're not going to be able to tell you no when it's time for you to stop. Stop doing something. What you do early on can and will impact your aesthetic outcome. You know, 10, 15, 20 years down the road. And so I pride myself on the fact that I see a lot of patients that I say, no, we're not doing any more lip filler or no, I don't think you need, you know, neurotoxin in this area. And I'm going to be honest with you, because at the end of the day, these are products going into your face, and I can't always reverse it. So I want to make sure that when you're out There, walking around and people are looking at you, that they're looking at you in a positive light, because it's my work too.
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A
Yeah. And so how long do you think, like, my filler in my chin and lips would last?
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B
Yeah. So filler's always going to last longer in areas that don't move as much. So the chin is probably going to last longer than your lips will. Will these companies that manufacture these products will put a time frame on how long they can expect results to last. But we know that sometimes they will migrate outside of the intended placement area, which will cause them to last longer. But I would say probably 12 months at the very least, in your chin lips, because you're using them every day for different things. It's probably. Probably closer to like six to nine months, you know, but in all honesty, if we went in with the ultrasound, we'd probably still see some again later.
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A
Dissolve or do you com like that?
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B
I mean, we would try to get rid of all of it if we completely dissolved it, but again, yeah, you can't ever be for sure until you go in with ultrasound or surgically.
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A
So if I were never to get my lips done again and I never got it dissolved, how would it look?
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B
Eventually, your body will start to absorb the, you know, hyaluronic acid that we've placed. But the cool thing about fillers is anytime you create tissue injury to any area on the face, your body is naturally going to stimulate new collagen. So even though the majority of your lip filler will be absorbed or broke down naturally, you know, that new collagen, that the simple process of getting them injected, that's still going to be there for some time. So I tell people, your lips will never look the way they did pre lip filler. Thank God they won't always look full and luscious, but they're not going to be like wilted raisins. Right.
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A
Unless they're done wrong.
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B
Unless they're done wrong, and we have to pump you full of the, you know, dissolving product to get them back to somewhat normal.
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A
Yeah. So whether it's like, filler or, you know, Botox, and people come in, like, what's one of your most common asked questions?
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B
Oh, gosh, is my husband gonna notice? Are my co workers gonna know? I get that all the time.
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A
Do you think because of, like, they're embarrassed or.
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B
I think, you know, and this comes all the way around with being a woman. Like, we don't necessarily do our hair and makeup for our spouses, you know, we do it for our own, you know, comfort. Or to have other girls in the bathroom be like, oh my gosh, girl, I love your outfit. You know, it's the same with this. Like, women seem to think that if they do anything to make themselves feel better, that their husbands are gonna have so many negative things to say about it, like, oh, I can't believe you would do that, or why would you do that? Or I don't want you to change your face. So they're always super, you know, uptight about like, what is my husband going to know? And they don't want their co workers to know. And I tell them all the time, I'm like, if your co workers know you're doing this, it's because they're doing it too. Like, so they know what they're for.
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A
Yes, yes. That's so true. It's like, I, I don't, I don't, I work with a lot of men, so, like, I, I'm sure that some maybe they could tell, but like, you can't care.
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B
Right?
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A
Because at the end of the day they have wives that are doing, you know, like, you can. I never, I have never met a girl that is not insecure or wishes something was that like tightened or lifted with age. Yeah. You know, I'm gonna be 30 next year.
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B
You don't look it.
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A
Thank you. Thank you. I know a person, but things start to change and I just don't think it's wrong for women to done in anything done in moderation or done correctly. It's not wrong to want to feel good about your body and your skin or who looking back in the mirror. And it's not for, like you said, a lot of times, it's not for other people. It's so you feel good about yourself.
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B
Right. When I first started in this industry, it was very much a, I want people to know what I've had done so that they know that I have money.
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A
Yeah.
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B
Right now it's how much can I do without anybody being able to tell that I've necessarily had stuff done that though, and we aren't. My goal at least is to never make you look different. I just want you to look like the best version of yourself. And so healthier, younger, more vibrant. And so for a lot of my, you know, older clients, they don't want to look like they're 25 or 30 or 35 again. They just want to be the best looking 55 year old or 65 year old out there. And so because you're not Going to look like 30.
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A
No, it's very hard at 55 to feel like you look like you did in 35.
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B
Exactly.
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A
But what is great is when you look at a 55 year old and you go, she looks great.
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B
Exactly.
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A
She just looks great for her age. She doesn't necessarily look like a 35 year old, but she just looks beautiful and great.
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B
Exactly. And I don't know what she did, but whatever she's doing looks great.
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A
Yeah. Like who's, who's helping her out? Help me out.
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B
Right.
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A
And in a lot of cases, less is more, right?
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B
Absolutely.
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A
My lips are a little swollen, so they're probably gonna, People are gonna be like, oh my God. But they'll go down and then they'll last me eight months. And then, you know, your Botox and filler, you know, like it'll. Botox is preventative, so prevention is key.
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B
Because it's way easier to prevent a line than to get rid of it once it's there.
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A
Yeah.
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B
It's usually less time invested and money invested when you go that route. So, yeah, if you're in your 20s or even in your 30s and you've never done anything like this, it's never too late to start.
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A
And everything's reversible too, you know, like.
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B
To a certain extent. Yeah. So like your neurotoxins, your Botox, your dysport, your Zeomin, Jabot, there's a whole bunch on the market. They are temporary. They're only going to last like three to four months. And so if you hated it, but you won't, but if you do, then it's gone and everything goes right back to normal.
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A
Yeah.
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B
Your hyaluronic acid based fillers, which are the most commonly used ones, are reversible with the hyaline X. So again, if you absolutely hated it, then we could turn, turn, get rid of it.
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A
Yeah. I think it's, it's really important for women to know that whatever they choose to do is if it's making them happy and making them feel good.
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B
Yep.
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A
They should chew it important. I think that if you are listening or watching and you haven't started all the stuff or you're curious about what Botox filler, all of that looks like. If you find a spa and you know the right registered nurse to work with, that will, that will that has experience and doesn't just want your money and stuff, you don't worry about it. Like your anxiety is kind of taken away. Yeah. Because you should always trust the person that's shooting needles in your face 100. Like, if you're having a doubt about.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Who is shooting a needle in your face, then you probably shouldn't be going to that person.
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B
Exactly.
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A
And so I think a lot of what I talk about with the women. It's okay. It's okay. I think a lot of what I talk about with the women on my podcast and, you know, in the DMs, is kind of like you said, they're like, I'm just. I'm nervous that, you know, whether it's going to be judged or they're not going to like it or they've never done it before. And it is such a new thing. I have a lot of older women that listen to me as well. And, like, even, like, talking to my mom when and I told this story, like, when I first got my lips done, she was like, why are you doing that? Yeah. Like, you know, and I was like, you had to trust that I'm not going to botch my face. Exactly. And I'm not going to go to somebody that I think is going to do that as well. So. Have you ever had anybody, like, come back and be like, I regret this?
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B
No. I have had people call me during, like, their healing time and be like, oh, I think we made a mistake. And I'm like, you just have to let your body heal, and that's for everything. Dysport, fillers, lasers, like, micro needling. There's always going to be a little bit of downtime. And so I tell patients all the time before they leave, like, you're probably going to have at least one moment where you feel like you've messed up during this healing process. And that's okay, because a lot of times you will have swelling, you'll have bruising. You know, you'll have normal downtime. And that can be a little bit alarming, especially if you were a little nervous even going into it to begin with. So. But otherwise, I've never had anybody come back and say, I'm never doing, you know, filler again, or, I'm never doing Botox. They might say, I don't want to do that brand or I don't want to do that area. But they usually always, yeah, I think.
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A
The next thing I want to do or anything is some Masseter. Oh, yeah, Botox. That's a big thing. I follow so many creators on TikTok that are skinny as can be and just have a round face. So can you kind of talk about, like, what Masseter would do to you if we got it like I got it in my jawline and chin like area.
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B
So your masseters are the big muscles that when you're chewing that you're using. And so for some people who have TMJ or they grind their teeth, they, they not only have pain, but that muscle will grow just like any other muscle if you use it a lot. And so we can put the neurotoxin in to relax that grinding and then relax the tightness that people experience with tmj. And not only will you get the benefit of the pain relief, but you also get some aesthetic results as well and jawline slimming. The one thing I will say about that is if you have any skin laxity, it can make your skin laxity worse. So make sure that if you want to get masseters done that you also address the potential issues from skin laxity that it could cause. But again, it's temporary, it's only going to last for a few months and then you're going to redo it. Most people can judge when it's time to get it redone by the pain. If they have TMJ or teeth grinding, just like people who get Botox for migraines, we can do that as well. It's not going to be the same treatment that you would get if you went to like your migraine doctor, your neurologist. But I have a lot of patients who suffer from migraines that just by getting their cosmetic Botox treatments or their dysport treatments, they get relief. So.
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A
And preventative and prevent.
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B
They get. It's killing two birds with one stone. Honestly. You're not only getting relief from your medical, you know, condition, but you're also getting the mental, you know, it's called health. Exactly.
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A
Look it up, guys. Exactly now. Thank you so much. Yeah, I. This was such an easy process and it doesn't take that long. No. You, like come in and. Yeah. And like if you are a little bruised and swollen afterwards, it's like nothing makeup can, you can't fix. And then it's even like if you were to do like a chemical peel or something, like you got to wait for the.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Result or, you know, whatever.
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B
And honestly, if your downtime from chemical peels can be longer than downtime from dysport, Botox or fillers, most people, you know, they come in on their lunch break and then within, you know, 48 hours, they're kind of back to their normal routine.
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A
I can't wait to look so glowing this time next week. I'm going to look like a glowing goddess. Goddess.
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B
Yes.
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A
And I'm so excited. Well, thank you so much.
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B
Thank you for having me.
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A
And hopefully this isn't the last time we do this.
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B
I hope not.