Podcast Summary: The Beat with Ari Melber
Episode Title: Trump In Crisis Amid High Prices, Deportation Backlash
Air Date: December 12, 2025
Host: Ari Melber
Guests: Jen Psaki, Doug Brinkley, DJ Bobbito Garcia
Overview
In this episode, Ari Melber dissects the mounting political and public backlash against Donald Trump, with a focus on two themes: economic hardship (especially high prices and affordability) and the sharp blowback against his aggressive immigration policies and foreign actions. Through polling data, notable recent losses for Republicans, cultural reactions (as seen on South Park and The Late Show), and in-depth interviews with guests Jen Psaki and presidential historian Doug Brinkley, Melber examines how Trump’s signature issues have become liabilities, and what this could mean for the coming midterms and 2028 election. The episode features real-world reporting, sharp analysis, memorable moments, and even some levity with DJ Bobbito Garcia.
Key Discussion Points and Insights
Opening: Trump’s Agenda in Crisis
[00:44] - [05:13]
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Trump’s once-strong issues, now weak points:
Ari Melber opens by laying out how Trump is facing a “crisis,” with public anger rising over his economic and immigration policies.“Trump’s longtime issues, things that... got him, ‘elected a year ago’... could be turning into liabilities as his party is gearing up for these midterms.” (Melber, 01:23)
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Stats & public mood:
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Trump down 11 points in approval on immigration, cited as a key reason for his initial electoral victory.
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Economic approval down by 9 points, now at only 31%—a historic low for his presidency.
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Politico reports his allies see him as an "imperfect messenger" on economic issues due to his inability to admit Americans are struggling.
“You can't gaslight people and tell them that their bills are affordable and you can't tell them that the economy is an A plus plus plus. ... I think it's insulting to people's intelligence.”
(Jen Psaki, 05:13)
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Legislative Failures and Polling
[05:26] - [09:57]
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Health care woes:
- Senate Republicans (under Trump) fail to extend crucial health coverage subsidies, likely to result in premiums doubling for 20 million people.
- Healthcare costs are now seen by both parties as “generally unpopular.”
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Political blowback:
- Democrats winning races in places previously red for decades (e.g., Miami flipping after 28 years).
- At the local level, Democrats have already flipped 25 seats in 2025; GOP has flipped zero.
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Republican unrest:
- Even Trump allies on FOX News acknowledge “they gotta address the problem now before it’s too late.”
Interview with Jen Psaki: Local Trends and Broader Implications
[07:59] - [13:05]
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Shift in Latino Voters:
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Miami mayoral race: VP Harris won by 1 point in 2024, but the new Democratic mayor won by 19 points, attributed in part to a swing among Latino voters.
“A big part of that seems to be a flip in Latino voters. ... The hope, I think, for a lot of Democrats is that they are moving back.”
(Psaki, 08:28)
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Messages that resonate:
- Issues most important to voters are affordability and cost of living, not high-profile scandals or foreign policy.
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Trump’s weaknesses laid bare:
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Approval ratings on the economy at 31%—“abysmally low.”
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Trump’s lack of detailed engagement with policy and “not a policy guy.”
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Republicans lack a clear plan on extending premium tax credits; “nearly three quarters of the public wants these ... extended.”
“The clear message from the public is affordability is the issue...and right now, Republicans, they don't have a clear plan.”
(Psaki, 12:26)
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Republican Defections and the Epstein Files
[13:05] - [16:13]
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The “Epstein Files” defeat:
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Trump's loss in a public, year-long legislative effort regarding the Epstein files has emboldened Republicans to openly criticize and oppose him.
“It seems to have given license ... to Republicans to question him, to challenge him, to reject him.”
(Psaki, 13:55)
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Failed legal attacks:
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Trump’s high-profile effort to indict NY Attorney General Letitia James fell apart—case was thrown out due to procedural failures.
“This looks like a vendetta. The case looking thin.”
(Melber, 14:57)
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Analysis on public opinion:
- Psaki characterizes this as evidence of Trump “losing his power and his ability to win on legal cases”—a pattern now echoing in politics.
War Powers & Caribbean Military Escalation
[19:39] - [31:01]
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Trump’s war on drugs in the Caribbean:
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Trump administration seized an oil tanker and US forces conducted lethal strikes against alleged drug boats, resulting in the deaths of shipwrecked survivors.
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Serious legal and ethical scrutiny: military lawyers themselves questioned if the actions constituted war crimes.
“Even in that hawkish room, they were saying, I don’t know that we can go this far.”
(Melber, 22:30)
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Shift from promises to reality:
- Trump’s campaign promises to be a peacemaker and avoid foreign “endless wars” have given way to aggressive, undeclared interventions.
- Renaming the Pentagon the “Department of War” is cited as symbolic of this reversal.
Analysis by Historian Doug Brinkley
[26:27] - [31:01]
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Historical context:
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Brinkley compares Trump’s actions in the Caribbean to the 1989 US invasion of Panama, warning that “Venezuela is a big country” and not like previous theaters of US intervention.
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Questions whether Trump’s new “war on drugs” is genuine or muscle-flexing.
“It seems to me more about trying to be perceived as a muscular foreign policy president.”
(Brinkley, 26:40)“If we’re at war with Venezuela ... do the due diligence.”
(Brinkley, 29:24)
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On Secretary of War Hegseth:
- “Seems unfit for the job ... shows zero concern in his career about human rights.”
Culture: South Park & Colbert Take on Trump
[31:01] - [33:27]
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South Park finale:
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Satirizes Trump as the “father of the literal Antichrist” and pointedly attacks his affordability record.
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Scene depicts Americans struggling with job losses, higher tariffs, and healthcare cuts—laying blame at Trump’s feet.
“It’s an example of how what Donald Trump is doing to our country, how he governs, how he leads, is sparking a backlash.”
(Melber, 32:31)
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The Colbert Late Show:
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Melber references Rachel Maddow’s appearance, where she shares hope for the future and insists on the endurance of righteous resistance.
“If you stick with it, ultimately history will reward the people who are righteous in these moments, and they will chase the bad guys to the ends of their days.”
(Rachel, quoted by Jen Psaki, 33:34)
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“Fallback” Panel: Jen Psaki, DJ Bobbito Garcia
[35:36] - [43:27]
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Jen Psaki on George Santos:
- Jokes about being ready to move on from scandals involving disgraced politicians re-appearing at GOP parties.
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Criminal justice reform critique:
- Trump’s pardoning of drug lords and figures like Larry Hoover is described as “almost like he thinks if he pardons people ... it means it’s no longer illegal.”
(Psaki, 38:30)
- Trump’s pardoning of drug lords and figures like Larry Hoover is described as “almost like he thinks if he pardons people ... it means it’s no longer illegal.”
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COVID amnesia:
- Bobbito Garcia calls out collective forgetting about the ongoing pandemic, highlighting its impact on the medically vulnerable.
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White House messaging failures:
- Psaki criticizes the current administration’s declining support for science and data, leading to worse public health outcomes.
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Person of the Year debate:
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Both guests call Time Magazine’s decision to name AI tech billionaires its “Person of the Year” “tone deaf,” missing the crucial issues facing ordinary people.
“There are so many people who could have been on the COVID of that magazine. ... But that was a little bit of a ‘really?’ for me and I'm sure I wasn’t the only one.”
(Psaki, 41:56)
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Tech’s impact on communities:
- AI data centers raise bills and hurt environments in underserved communities; critics say these impacts are ignored in the rush to crown tech leaders as heroes.
Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments
- Jen Psaki on Trump gaslighting:
“You can't gaslight people and tell them that their bills are affordable ... I think it's insulting to people's intelligence.” (05:13)
- Ari Melber on Democrats flipping seats:
“There has not been an instance yet this year where voters have said, hey, we want to go more red, just hasn’t happened.” (07:02)
- Doug Brinkley on Trump’s foreign policy:
“It seems to me more about trying to be perceived as a muscular foreign policy president.” (26:40)
- Jen Psaki on pardons:
“It's almost like he thinks if he pardons people ... it means it's no longer illegal.” (38:30)
- DJ Bobbito Garcia on COVID:
“By putting it in the past, it almost like minimizes the reality for a huge community in the United States and abroad as well.” (40:19)
- Jen Psaki on AI billionaires as Person of the Year:
“It almost felt AI generated, like the fact that that's who they made the Time Person of the Year.” (41:56)
Important Timestamps & Segments
- Trump’s crisis: economy & immigration polls (00:44–05:13)
- Healthcare affordability & legislative gridlock (05:26–07:59)
- Jen Psaki segment: Democratic flips & Latino vote (07:59–13:05)
- Collapse of Trump’s coalition & Epstein defeat (13:05–16:13)
- Caribbean “war on drugs” escalation, legal questions (19:39–24:08)
- Historical perspective on foreign interventions (26:27–31:01)
- South Park & cultural backlash (31:01–33:27)
- ‘Fallback’ panel (Psaki & Bobbito Garcia): politics, culture, pandemic, AI (35:36–43:27)
Tone
The tone throughout is incisive, fact-driven, and candid, with a blend of analytical seriousness and more light-hearted cultural references. Ari Melber maintains a brisk, engaging pace; Jen Psaki and Doug Brinkley bring insider and historical expertise, respectively, often laced with dry humor and skepticism.
Conclusion
This episode paints a clear, richly detailed portrait of political headwinds for Trump and the GOP, connecting voter dissatisfaction to policy missteps and cultural backlash. By drawing on polling data, local election results, Congressional drama, and pop culture, Melber and his guests lay out why 2026 and even 2028 may see Democratic gains, unless Republican leadership course-corrects quickly on affordability and overreach. The addition of segments lampooning Trump’s record on South Park and The Late Show underscores how widespread the discontent is—moving beyond politics into mainstream cultural critique. The hour ends with a thoughtful, forward-looking perspective from both journalists and artists on what it means to resist, remember, and prioritize the real needs of ordinary Americans.
