C (5:51)

Obviously, it's a tragedy, it's horrific.

A (5:55)

Is a. I view it as an attempted assassination on our ICE officers. And as you know, this is not the first time this has happened in the state of Texas, not the first time it's happened across the United States. And so we have a serious problem across this country where this violence against our ICE agents, our law enforcement agents.

C (6:12)

Is being incited and it needs to stop right now.

A (6:18)

Okay. Now, again, it seems pretty obvious what the motivation here was, because this is part of a spate of attacks on ICE offices and ICE officers and Border Patrol officers that has happened over recent months. J.D. vance, Vice President of the United States, went after Gavin Newsom, who we'll get to in a moment, the Governor of California, whose rhetoric has been unhinged, as well as other Democrats over the rhetoric they've been using with regard to ice.

B (6:41)

Here's what happens. When Democrats like Gavin Newsom did say that these people are part of an authoritarian government. When the left wing media lies about what they're doing, when they lie about who they're arresting, when they lie about the actual job of law enforcement, or what they're doing is encouraging crazy people to go and commit violence. You don't have to agree with my immigration policies. You don't have to agree with Donald Trump's immigration policies. But if your political rhetoric encourages violence against our law enforcement, you can go straight to Hell. And you have no place in the political conversation of the United States of America.

A (7:20)

And of course, unfortunately, there have been an enormous number of people who've been demonizing ICE over the course of the past year, at minimum, mean talking about ICE as though they are Nazis. In fact, just this week, NPR host Maria Hinojosa compared ICE to the Nazis. Black and Latino unity in the city of Chicago will only grow thanks to Donald Trump and his Republican Party. So that is something that he and his Republican Party has feared, that unity of black and brown people coming together. Chicago is a city of neighborhoods, and we do not like outsiders coming to tell us how to run our city. So this is going to have right now the trauma. I posted, actually, right after that first day on the ground in Chicago, I posted about the fact that there are little Anne Franks, right, Anne Frank, in Chicago. Her name is Anita Franco, and she is terrified. And Senator Villa knows that because those are her constituents. And little girls and boys who are afraid to come out of their homes. Well, you know, again, this sort of rhetoric is very likely to lead to violence because when you say that Anne Frank is hiding from the Nazis who are coming for them, well, you know, that is likely to lead to some pretty bad stuff. Just last week, Representative Jasmine Crockett, you recall he played it on the show, compared ICE to slave patrols. When you keep saying that ICE are Nazis, that ICE are slave patrols, people might get the idea that maybe you should do violence to members of ice. I mean, this is not like a giant jump. It's not a huge leap. Here. She was on the Breakfast Club.

D (8:59)

It's hard to say that, you know, this is a dictatorship. Even though we're looking at him sending troops to go in and attack Americans, like, even though we're seeing that they are unleashing this rogue. This rogue policing force that, you know, if they taught black history, they would know about slave patrols. Because when I look at what they are doing with ice, it looks like slave patrols. And then you've got a Supreme Court that's like, yeah, you can pick them.

A (9:31)

Up because of how they look or how they sound. That's crazy.

D (9:33)

That sounds like a slave patrol. Like, that is what that is what policing was born of.

A (9:39)

Okay, Policing, first of all, was not born of slave patrols. But policing has been a thing in Western civilized countries for legitimately centuries. Constables in Britain were not constables because they were on slave patrol. But this sort of rhetoric does have an impact. Again, I'm not saying Jasmine Crockett is responsible for somebody shooting an ICE agent any more than I'm saying that Barack Obama's anti police rhetoric led to the shooting of Dallas police officers. But if you keep ratcheting up the temperature, if you keep treating people in law enforcement as though they are enemies of the people, as though they are doing the bidding of dark Nazi gods or something, if you do that, people are eventually at the, at the fringes going to do acts of violence. Joining me on the line is Jenny Tayer. She is the Daily Wires immigration reporter. She has new details on what we know about the ICE shooter. Jenny, thanks so much for taking the time. Really appreciate it.

D (10:28)

Thank you for having me.

A (10:31)

So why don't you give us the background what we know about the shooter in this case. Obviously a lot of rumors online. What do we know?

D (10:39)

Right. So we know that the shooter's name is Joshua John. He's a 29 year old, he's from Texas. So he's a native to Texas, where the shooting occurred. Not much is known other than what he left at the scene of the shooting, which I think revealed a lot. And what FBI Director Kash Patel said revealed a really huge ideological motive here, which were these shell casings that said the words anti ICE on them that were engraved in those shell casings. Those were left at the scene and recovered by the FB after he shot into that ICE facility and tragically killed one of the migrant detainees that was being walked into the facility after just being arrested and injured two others. We know this. You know his targets were actually ICE agents, but he just didn't have good aim. Apparently he was shooting indiscriminately into that facility and those ICE agents were his targets. They were loading those individuals into the facility in a Sally port. And he also did shoot into the building. He shot into some ICE offices that were thankfully not occupied at the time. There were bullet holes all over the building. We also know that he was employed earlier. He was unemployed at the time of the shooting, but he was employed as a, he was picking marijuana for a living at a time and he was also installing solar panels. His mother also espoused some left wing ideology online. She had posted some anti second amendment posts on Facebook against Texas lawmakers calling them out for supporting gun laws. And we know what her son did that day and apparently he had practice with his parents gun.

A (12:25)

Now we also know obviously this is not the first attempt to attack an ICE facility. There have been a multiplicity of attempts to attack ICE facilities ranging from California to Texas to Yakima, Washington. And at this Point, have there been any more details about the shooter that have been sort of put out there? We know obviously that law enforcement, including the head of the FBI as well as the governor of Texas have made mention of his politics. Do we know about his personal politics, aside from what exactly was on the bullets?

D (12:56)

Right. Obviously the bullets have been the biggest piece of evidence. His brother Noah did speak with reporters yesterday and he said that he didn't believe that his brother had any strong political ideology and didn't believe that he really had any strong feelings towards ice. So that's really all we know at this point. But like you mentioned, there has just been a string of attacks by left wing agitators against ice and not only against ICE right now, but against conservative voices. Two weeks ago we had the tragic political assassination of Charlie Kirk. Now here we are, another ICE facility attack. This is amid an uptick, 1000% uptick in assaults on ICE agents. There have been similar attacks at ICE facilities in Texas very recently over the summer. On July 4th, you had left wing agitators who lured ICE agents out of a facility in Alvarado, Texas, using fireworks. They came out of the facility and that's when these agitators, these attackers, started shooting at them, spraying bullets in their direction, actually shot a local police officer in the neck. Some of those individuals actually got away for days before law enforcement was able to find them. This is just one instance in a pattern that we're seeing across the country. Like you mentioned, Yakima, Washington, Los Angeles, what we saw over the summer where the Trump administration had to send in soldiers not only to secure the city, not only to protect locals, but also they were there to ride along with ICE as they were continuing to make arrests across the country. So ICE is still going out there as well amid all of this?

A (14:36)

Well, that is Jenny Terre. She's the Daily Wire immigration reporter. Jenny, really appreciate the time and the insight.

D (14:41)

Thank you.

A (14:42)

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E (17:41)

That's happening in the United States of America. Masked men jumping out of unmarked cars, people disappearing. No due, no oversight, zero accountability. Happening in the United States of America today. People ask, well, is authoritarianism. You're being hyperbolic. We're being hyperbolic. If you're a black and brown community, it's here in this country. And so I, I'm deeply proud that I had the privilege of signing the nation's first bill to address the issue of masking. Also to require you have simple identification to your point. I mean, if some guy jumped out of an unmarked car in a van with a mask on, tried to grab me, I mean, by definition you're going to push back. And so this, these, these are not just authoritarian tendencies. These are authoritarian actions by an authoritarian government.

A (18:31)

Again, if you keep saying these sorts of things over and over and over, it should not be a gigantic shock when people go do acts of violence. And the left has increasingly been doing acts of violence because the rhetoric is so unhinged. One of the big problems in the country right now, perhaps the biggest problem in the country is that by the polling data, Americans believe that their neighbors are their enemies. And the biggest problem facing America is internal. And a lot of that is self reinforcing, A lot of that is self perpetuating. If your neighbor says you are their enemy and then you say, well, if he thinks I'm his enemy, then he's my enemy. What you end up with is a cycle of partisan polarization that is unbridgeable. And once it becomes unbridgeable, you are in fact effectuating higher levels of hatred and violence. And that is a real thing in the United States. And it's not equally positioned. It is not equally positioned. For my entire lifetime, the political left in this country has basically treated the right as though the right is some form of Nazi offshoot. And if you look at the polling data, actually what you will see is that things didn't shift for Republicans starting to react to that until around 2013, 2014. So for a solid decade and a half from the time George W. Bush became president in the year 2000, there was a move by the left to demonize Republicans as somehow politically other, as though there was something wrong with them. This is what the polling data shows. The Democrats actually didn't just think that their neighbors were wrong, they thought they were morally bad, while Republicans tended to think that their neighbors were more were wrong, but not morally bad. And then all of that started to shift around the second term of Barack Obama. And now both sides think the other side is morally bad. And what that's doing is it's pushing both parties out to fringe rhetoric. But the left is beating the right there. The left has been there for a long time. It's systemically integrated into entire worldviews. This is why when I've been talking about the permission structures for violence that are generating violence, that are generating things like the assassination, my friend Charlie Kirk, that when you're creating permission structures, when you create a mental model whereby speech is violence, that people who oppose you are actually actors of deep malicious evil who must be destroyed at any cost. That once you believe that, you're of course going to get higher levels of violence and that's going to generate a reaction on the other side. I use Gavin Newsom as a model here because Gavin Newsom is playing a two faced game. Gavin Newsom, the Governor of California, he will do a podcast with Charlie and then acknowledge that Charlie was a nice human being and all the rest of the. But then he will just spew absolute nonsense in public about how the end of the republic is nigh. So literally yesterday, Gavin Newsom was attacking Trump as an sob. Here he was again on Colbert.

E (21:13)

This is a tough time, I'm aware.

F (21:16)

Just.

E (21:16)

No, but this. A lot of anxiety, a lot of stress, a lot of folks that honestly just don't know we're going to get our country back. And I get it, people, this guy is flooding the zone. He's dominating the narratives. Facts don't seem to matter. And Democrats frankly have had a difficult time pushing back. And Democrats feel that new times, there's sort of this weakness that dominates our brand and our party. And I think what people appreciate is that we're willing to fight and not only fight symbolically by having a little bit fun, but fight substantively. We have 41 lawsuits against this, we're pushing back.

A (21:53)

Now, that's kind of normal political rhetoric, I suppose. But the stuff that is not normal is when Gavin Newsom says that if Donald Trump has his way, we'll have Putin style fake elections can when you start talking about your like, I don't believe that if Kamala Harris had been elected, that would have been the last election in American history. I didn't believe when Barack Obama was elected in 2012, we were looking at the last election in American history. If you believe that your political opponents will literally end elections in the United States, what are you supposed to do? Especially if you're already somewhat unhinged, you might start to believe that it's time to do some violence. Well, here's Gavin Newsom saying a thing. He clearly doesn't believe he's running for president in 2028. He's clearly getting geared up specifically for that thing. He does not believe there won't be an election in 2028. If he did, then presumably he'd be battening down the hatches for a state versus federal government war along those lines. But he's not doing any of that stuff. It's all nonsense. It's for the people in the cheap seats. But some of those people in the cheap seats turns out have guns and want to do bad things. Well, here's Gavin Newsom.

E (22:52)

I wanted to ask you about Prop 50. Before I do that, you raise a bigger question about, like, who will win in the midterms to the idea that perhaps we won't have free and fair and open elections in 2026. Putin type election.

A (23:07)

How would you okay a Putin type election? And then he says maybe there won't be elections at all in 2028.

E (23:17)

We got crushed in this last election and now we're in a position where we are struggling to communicate. We're struggling to win back now the majority in the House of Representatives. And that's a big part of what I'm doing, not just today in terms of the work out here, raising money, but also raising awareness around how Donald Trump is trying to rig the midterm elections and how I fear that we will not have election in 2028. I really mean that in the core of my soul. Unless we wake up to the code red, what's happening in this country and we wake up soberly to how serious this moment is.

A (23:56)

Okay, there's only one problem. He doesn't believe that. He simply does not believe that. And yet he continues to promote that. And that's A problem. It's a problem. Whenever you have one side in a country say that if the other side wins an election, the country is legitimately over, it's the end of the country. And then the other side responds with the same thing. Then you basically have a cold civil war. And that is not something that we want here in the United States. And that cold civil war will have violent spillover. It will have people who go and shoot up ICE facilities and murder political commentators and try to assassinate presidential candidates. That will be a thing that happens. And again, because Donald Trump has been the great bugaboo in the minds of the left for the last decade, minimum, the violence on the left is increasing at a faster pace than it is on on the right. But once you enter this cycle, to pretend that it's not going to turn into a cycle is a little bit silly. It likely will. It'd be kind of shocking if it doesn't. And by the way, everyone believes this. Apparently in the country, this is maybe the only place where Americans agree is that things are falling apart. According to a brand new Quinnipiac University poll, in the wake of the assassination of conservative activist Charlie Kirk, 79% of voters say the United States is in political crisis. Only 18% say it is not. Democrats, 93 to 6 believe that because Donald Trump is president. Independents, 84 to 14 believe that. Republicans believe it, 60 to 35. And the reason Republicans believe that is because they are looking around and seeing political activists who are conservative being shot to death on college campuses. They're looking at attacks on ICE facilities. They're looking at riots in Los Angeles. They are looking at entire permission structures created by the left. Nearly 6 in 10 voters, 58%, think it will not be possible to lower the temperature on political rhetoric and speech in the United States. Only 34% think it's possible. A majority of voters, 54%, think political violence in the United States will worsen over the next few years. Only 27% think it will remain about the same. Only 14%, 14%, think that it's going to ease. 53 to 41 voters believe that the system of democracy is not working. Republicans think it's working overwhelmingly because, of course, Republicans have been winning elections recently. But once you start believing this is such a problem, once you start believing that when you lose elections, the entire system doesn't work well, then you're going to resort to violence again. This is why the left is so overwhelmingly, disproportionately violent at this point in political terms. Okay, well, the other thing that's going to happen when this happens is that there's likely to be blowback. There's likely to be blowback. When I talk about a tit for tat. And it's an, it's not just an even tit for tat, it's like an escalating tit for tat. Things are likely to get worse. So, for example, there was a, a table set up at a historically black college and university to debate the issue of dei. This is something that happened at Tennessee State University. A table was set up and immediately a near riot erupted. Things were stolen. The people who wanted to bait were followed to their car. People were shouting black power at them, blocking their exit from campus. The topic, of course, was dei. Here's what the video looked like. I see people being harassed.

F (27:10)

Oh my gosh, they threw a drink up top.

A (27:18)

They just try to hit the car.

F (27:23)

Whoa, that was loud.

A (27:28)

Now again, this isn't like extraordinary levels of violence, but it certainly is troublesome and you could see it spinning out of control the next time, which it likely will. You know, this sort of stuff is, is not just a problem, it is a deep problem for the United States. Alrighty. Coming up, Jimmy Kimmel is back and kind of worse than ever. Plus, is President Trump right or wrong about Tylenol and autism? Will go through the evidence first. Policy Genius makes finding life insurance simple, Helping you secure real coverage so your loved ones have financial safety nets they need when it matters most. See, here's the thing. We're all going to plots at some point. When that happens, you want to make sure that your family is taken care of. Life insurance is really important and policy genius is the best way to shop for it. With Policy Genius, you can find life insurance policies starting at just 276 bucks a year for a million dollars in coverage. 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The committee subpoenaed Google earlier this year as part of its inquiry into big tech censorship practices. According to that letter, Google will now allow creators banned for political speech on COVID 19 elections and related issues an opportunity to return to the platform. And the company emphasized, quote, public debate should never come at the expense of relying on authorities. Google said it will not rely on third party fact checkers. Quote we will never use third party fact checkers. Instead, the company commits to Transparency and its own enforcement policies. Well, again, what that has led to, the fact that the Biden administration did that sort of stuff, that they pressured Big Tech into shutting down informational dissemination, is it's led to a feeling on the right. Okay, well, if it's good for the goose, it's good for the gander that if the left used the auspices of government power to push forward its own propagandistic beliefs, well, then we should do the same. And this was the question with regard to Jimmy Kimmel. So Jimmy Kimmel has now returned to the air. I'm going to point out here that Jimmy Kimmel's a schmuck. I thought Jimmy Kimmel's a schmuck for 10 odd years. Go back. I have many monologues on this show about the silliness and foolishness and wrongheadedness of Jimmy Kimmel. With that said, the FCC should not be pressuring because of political content. Various outlets to stop the dissemination of speech. That is not a good thing. So Jimmy Kimmel. Jimmy Kimmel suspended after a couple of major affiliate networks, nexstar and Sinclair, decided they didn't want to air his show anymore. And it was totally unclear at the time whether they were doing that because they were offended that Jimmy Kimmel had attacked MAGA and suggested the MAGA was responsible for Charlie Kirk or whether because they were, they were pressured by the fcc. I said, listen, if it was about the ratings, it was about them being upset and the viewers, totally good, get rid of Jimmy Kimmel, no problem. If it was because of the fcc, that is a different sort of thing. Well, Jimmy Kimmel returned last night. This is after caterwauling and screams of outrage from the left who treated the suspension. The temporary suspension of Jimmy Kimmel for like six days is significantly worse for the country than the actual assassination of Charlie Kirk. Jimmy Kimmel began by issuing a quasi apology, kind of sort of, here's what he said.

C (32:31)

I don't think what I have to say is going to make much of a difference. If you like me, like me. If you don't, you don't. I have no illusions about changing anyone's mind. But I do want to make something clear because it's important to me as a human. And that is, you understand that it was never my intention to make light of the murder of a young man.

A (32:54)

I don't think there's anything funny about it.

C (32:57)

I posted a message on Instagram of the day he was killed sending love to his family and asking for compassion. And I meant it. And I still do. Nor was it my intention to blame any specific group for the actions of what it was obviously a deeply disturbed individual. That was really the opposite of the point I was trying to make. But I understand that to some that felt either ill timed or unclear or maybe both. And for those who think I did point a finger, I get why you're upset. If the situation was reversed, there's a good chance I'd have felt the same way.

A (33:30)

Okay, so it's sort of a quasi apology. So you get half credit for the quasi apology. I mean, the reason people thought that he was blaming Maga is because he fairly clearly blamed Maga. In the actual segment, he said Maga was trying to blame anyone but themselves, anyone but Maga for the shooting of Charlie Kirk. So, I mean, it was pretty clear what he was doing there. But okay. And then he proceeded to praise Erica Kirk. Here was Jimmy Kimmel last night, a.

C (33:57)

Moment over the weekend, a very beautiful moment. I don't know if you saw this on Sunday. Erica Kirk forgave the man who shot her husband. She forgave him. That is an example we should follow. If you believe in the teachings of Jesus as I do, there it was, that's it. A selfless act of grace, forgiveness from a grieving widow. It touched me deeply and I hope it.

A (34:33)

Touches many.

C (34:35)

And if there's anything we should take from this tragedy to carry forward, I hope it can be that.

A (34:41)

Okay, well, again, you know, credit for giving credit to Erica Kirk, who again gave one of the great speeches I've ever seen, given the circumstances surrounding it. Kimmel then went on to thank pretty much everybody on the right who wasn't a fan of the FCC going after political speech. Here's what he had to say.

C (34:55)

Maybe most of all, I want to thank the people who don't support my show and what I believe, but support my right to share those beliefs anyway.

A (35:08)

Who I never would have imagined, like.

C (35:12)

Ben Shapiro, Clay Travis, Candace Owens, Mitch McConnell, Rand Paul, even my old pal Ted Cruz.

A (35:21)

Okay, so I mean, not you're welcome, really. I mean, like again, I'm still unclear as to whether he was suspended in the first place because of the FCC or because it turns out that affiliates justly outraged. I'm not a fan of the FCC intervening. I am a fan of affiliates getting mad when they don't like exactly what they are seeing and then there being some results. The big problem here of course has been the perception and this is a problem if you are worried about the partisan breakdown of the United States or The feeling democracy isn't working. If you start believing as the right has believed for a long time, if you believe that all the auspices of government are arrayed against you for political reasons and that the law is being skewed in order to achieve political results, you are not going to trust the system. This is why I was upset with the fcc. This is why I didn't think that Brandon Carr's commentary was useful here. Because if the affiliates just made the call, everybody's celebrating Jimmy Kimmel going away today and he's probably still off the air. But instead Jimmy Kimmel is back specifically because of the muddying of the waters with regards to the system. President Trump put out a statement, quote, I can't believe ABC Fake News gave Jimmy Kimmel his job back. The White House was told by ABC that his show was canceled. Something happened between then and now because his audience is gone and his talent was never there. Why would they want someone back who does so poorly, who's not funny, who puts the network in jeopardy by playing 99 positive democrat garbage? He's yet another arm of the DNC and to the best of my knowledge, that would be a major illegal campaign contribution. I think we're going to test ABC out on this. Let's see how they do. Last time I went after them, they gave me $16 million. This one sounds even more lucrative. A true bunch of losers let Jimmy Kimmel rot in his bad ratings. Now, again, I agree with the sentiment that he that he thinks Jimmy Kimmel stinks. I've been saying Jimmy Kimmel stinks longer than Donald Trump thinks that Jimmy Kimmel stinks like literally the entire time Jimmy Kimmel's been on the air. But when you grant the patina of legitimacy to the argument that there is a government shutdown of speech going on, that is a mistake. You see the vice president, J.D. vance, actually trying to back away from that. He says that Trump's FCC commissioner quasi threatening Jimmy Kimmel, that that was actually a joke.

B (37:15)

What people will say as well. You know, didn't the FCC commissioner put a tweet out that said something bad? Well, compare that the FCC commissioner making a joke on social media. What is the government action that the Trump administration has engaged in to kick Jimmy Kimmel or anybody off else off the air? Zero. What government pressure have we brought to bear to tell people that they're not allowed to speak their mind? Zero. We believe in free speech in the Trump administration. We are fighting every single day to protect it.

A (37:47)

Ok, so if it was a joke, it was not a particularly good one, since the FCC commissioner then went on a bunch of other shows and said that he was interested in using the public interest provision of FCC law to go after things like the View. Okay, I understand. I understand the impulse. I do. I get it. I get it. The Democrats did a lot of this stuff when they were in office. And the idea is also not just the Democrats did this stuff. And so we will do a mutually assured destruction thing where they do X and we also do X so everyone will stop doing X. Something else is happening here. What is happening here, and Democrats have been doing it for a while and now Republicans are picking it up as well, is Democrats do a bad thing. Republicans then say if they had the power, they would do an even worse thing. And so we are going to now break the next thing because if we don't, they're going to get in power and they're going to do the same thing to us. Once you have that level of mutual distrust in our politics, it is impossible for that spiral to stop. Because otherwise, if you forego the tools of power, you're just a fool. And the problem is Democrats keep doubling down on the rhetoric. They keep making it clear that if they do get the power, they are going to do the worst thing. They are going to do that. And none of this is a recipe for decency. None of this is a recipe for a healthy body politic. All of it is a major, major problem. Here's another example. So apparently, according to msnbc, former FBI Director James Comey will be indicted soon in a Virginia federal court. Apparently he's going to be indicted based on testimony that he gave in September of 2020, according to an MSNBC reporter named Ken Delaney. He said the full extent of the charges being prepared against Comey is unclear, but sources believe at least one element of the indictment, if it goes forward, will accuse him of lying to Congress during his testimony on September 30, 2020 about whether he authorized a leak of information. Okay, so what that goes back to is a story in which James Comey basically gave a bunch of his special super duper secret notes about Donald Trump to a friend, and that friend somehow gave them to the New York Times. And then he claimed that he had no idea they were going to be leaked to the New York Times, which is totally, totally implausible. At the very, very best. According to the New York Post, the five year statute of limitations on bringing perjury charges would be next Tuesday. But prosecutors are expected to seek the grand jury indictment before Then according to people who are familiar now, again, I don't have a problem with any of that. If James Comey committed perjury, then they should prosecute him, obviously. And clearly the big problem is that President Trump literally last week put out something on Truth Social saying that he wants Comey, Adam Schiff and Letitia J. And Letitia James all prosecuted. That, that, that was a. That if Pam Bondi didn't do that, she was somehow betraying the trust of the people. If the President is just naming political enemies and saying he wants them prosecuted, of course that's gonna undercut the public perception of the legitimacy of the investigation. Even if the investigation is totally legit, that is a major problem. Right? And yes, it's true, Donald Trump was targeted politically. Yes, that's true. And it was wrong. And we shouldn't be using the DOJ in that way. And the levels of mistrust in our politics are so unbelievably high right now that it's justifying activity that is only going to lead to the next deeper layer of mistrust on a systemic level. 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Meanwhile, the Trump administration has now made an announcement with regard to autism. So RFK Jr made it, as Secretary of Health and Human Services, one of his big priorities, to try to discover the cause of autism. Apparently, there's something like 800 different genetic markers for autism. So it's a very complex disorder at the very least. Well, President Trump made an announcement suggesting that the use of Tylenol during pregnancy could be associated with a very increased risk of autism. So here is what President Trump had to say.

F (43:42)

This is on Tuesday afternoon, acetaminophen, is that okay? Which is basically commonly known as Tylenol during pregnancy can be associated with a very increased risk of autism. So taking Tylenol is not good. All right, I'll say it. It's not good.

A (44:13)

Okay? Taking Tylenol is not good. That is far too broad a statement, medically speaking. Okay, this is Monday afternoon, rather, when President Trump made this statement. Okay, so I just want to talk about the medical evidence here. So the medical evidence here suggests that there is a correlation between long term taking of Tylenol, possibly, I say possibly. And possibly some risk in the increase of autism, although it may be small. The problem here is that it's very hard to dissociate the use of acetaminophen. Tylenol from fever.

D (44:44)

Right.

A (44:44)

You take acetaminophen for a fever. So if you have fever during pregnancy, that could do damage to the fetus. Everyone understands that there are a wide variety of damages that emerge from high fever during pregnancy. The problem is there is literally no treatment for women with high fever that is pregnancy safe, other than Tylenol if recommended by a doctor. This is why women who are pregnant don't use Advil, for example, to bring down their fever. It's a risk to the fetus. So the problem becomes, if you tell everybody you're not allowed to use Tylenol when you have a fever, you end up actually spiking a fever. And that fever does damage to the baby. So the question becomes, this is why you ought to ask your doctor, when is a low grade fever not dangerous to the baby? When is a high grade fever so dangerous? You should take Tylenol. And also, what is the term where using acetaminophen becomes actually dangerous? Because what you will note is that even the FDA guidance, even the FDA guidance suggests chronic and prolonged use of Tylenol is a problem. Chronic and prolonged use. Okay, what does that mean? That might mean a week, it might mean two weeks, three weeks. So taking one dose of Tylenol isn't going to do it. But President Trump is out there saying that you shouldn't take Tylenol at all, which is of course, beyond what even members of his own administration are saying. So Dr. Oz actually softened the warning. Here's what Dr. Oz had to say. If you have a high fever, as you point out, if you've got significant issues of that nature, you ought to be talking to a doctor anyway, because the cause of the high fever is worrisome. The doctor's almost certainly gonna prescribe you something. Tylenol might be one of the things they give. That's not the problem. The problem is someone has a low grade fever, it's not a big issue, but, you know, why not? I'll just pop an extra acetaminophen. Or they gotta. They stub their toe, they have a little pain. And so I'm gonna take some acetaminophen for that, because why not? It's safe. And we wanna warn you, we don't know that's true. It might be true, but we don't know that's true. And there's lots of literature that would cast doubt on the assumption that you should be taking acetaminophen. Willy nilly. Okay, so I'm not sure who is taking acetaminophen willy nilly. You really shouldn't be doing that. Obviously people have been trafficking around. A 2017 post in which Tylenol said it's not recommended for pregnant women. That's a little out of context in the sense that it's not like you shouldn't just take it willy nilly over the counter. They said we actually don't recommend using any of our products while pregnant. Thank you for taking the time to voice your concerns. Today you're supposed to go to a doctor. A doctor is supposed to tell you whether to take Tylenol or not. So I actually asked our friends and sponsors over at Comet, which is a project of perplexity, what do the best studies show regarding Tylenol and its correlation with autism? And here's what they say, the largest in high quality studies, thus especially those using rigorous methods like comparing siblings, have not found convincing evidence that acetaminophen used during pregnancy causes autism in children. Large scale studies from Sweden and Japan using sibling controls which account for genetics and family environment, found no association between Tylenol exposure during pregnancy and autism. Risk meta analyses and systematic reviews show that studies indicating an association generally report very small risk increases. Many have been criticized for failing to fully account for confounding factors like the underlying illnesses, like, for example, a fever that you're going to get without that in place, for example, without any use of Tylenol. Bottom line, says Comet, there's currently no definitive evidence that taking Tylenol during pregnancy causes autism in children. Pregnant individuals should not avoid acetaminophen when needed for pain or fever, but should use it as recommended by healthcare providers. And of course, that is the ask your doctor that you got from Dr. Oz. Here's Fox News. Is Dr. Mark Siegel pouring cold water all over this?

F (48:04)

Does acetaminophen during pregnancy cause autism? People out there need to know. There's absolutely no proof whatsoever that that's the case. We distinguish between something called an association and something called proof or a cause and effect. It's possible due to some studies that excess use of acetaminophen could lead to neurodevelopmental problems like autism because the fetus, if you think about it, doesn't have a fully developed liver. And that's where the Tylenol goes. It goes to the liver to be metabolized. Again, a reason why I'm saying take less of it. But we're far away from any proof here and women who are pregnant need to get that fever down. That's why I think the reaction has been excessive on the side of caution here.

A (48:52)

Senate GOP Leader John Thune, he said the same thing. He says he's very concerned about the RFK Jr claims on Tylenol and autism.

E (49:00)

I'm obviously very concerned about that. I am a father and a grandfather and just have, as of about seven months ago, a newborn grandson. So congratulations. So obviously pregnant. Thank you. Pregnant moms is something I have a very high level of interest in. And I do. I agree. I think that science ought to guide these discussions, these conversations and our decision making around our health. There are studies out there that they reference. But again, I think there are an awful lot of people in the medical community who come to a different conclusion about the use of Tylenol.

A (49:35)

Go talk to your doctor, okay? Please, go talk to your doctor. Your doctor is going to give you good advice about Tylenol and when to use it, okay? Bottom line, your doctor knows more than I do. Your doctor knows more than President Trump does because your doctor has been dealing with pregnancy and Tylenol for a very, very long time. And there are many, many studies that have been done on this particular topic. Follow the data. Follow the data. Okay. Meanwhile, President Trump spoke at the U.N. honestly, I thought it was great. I thought that his speech at the UN Was terrific. There was a bit of controversy because he got on an escalator and it didn't work. And then apparently his teleprompter froze up while he was speaking on Tuesday. Here he was at the. At the escalator going up the escalator. Apparently, people are now claiming a member of his own staff accidentally hit the stop button on the escalator. President Trump is trying to initiate an investigation into what happened here, whether this was an attempt to sort of humiliate him, make him look bad. He gets on the elevator and the other just kind of stops.

G (50:43)

President Trump, why did you cancel the meeting with Chuck Schumer?

A (50:50)

Okay, well, he says he's going to initiate an investigation into that. He also was speaking at the UN his teleprompter just stopped working. And it's a little weird when all this is happening at once. I certainly understand the suspicion from President Trump, who isn't exactly welcome at the United Nations. The most isly of international politics, a wretched hive of scum and villainy.

F (51:08)

And I don't mind making this speech without a teleprompter because the teleprompter is not working. I feel very happy to be up here with you, nevertheless. And that way you speak more from the heart. I can only say that whoever's operating this teleprompter is in big trouble.

A (51:35)

By the way, the right approach there from President Trump now, I will say his speech at the UN Was great, because the UN Is terrible. We should defund it. We should get rid of it. We should blow up the building, salt the earth, and then build a Trump Tower on it. Honestly, the UN is one of the worst inventions that humanity has had to offer. It's a terrible idea. It was a terrible idea when it was the League of Nations. It was a terrible idea when it was the United Nations. It is a joke. It is ridiculous that we pretend that countries like Zimbabwe and Iran ought to have a say in how global policy is made. It's silly. The UN Security Council is a complete useless bag of nonsense, given the fact that you have China and Russia on there, both of whom are gonna veto anything useful. It's truly a silly place. And here's President Trump ripping into the UN at the UN Now, I wish you'd go all the way and just defund the damn thing.

F (52:18)

It's too bad that I had to do these things instead of the United nations doing them. And sadly, in all cases, the United nations did not even try to help in any of them. I ended seven wars, dealt with the leaders of each and every one of these countries, and never even received a phone call from the United nations offering to help in finalizing the deal.

A (52:48)

President Trump also said the UN has never lived up to its potential. That, of course, is true.

F (52:53)

Well, it's a fantastic role in peacekeeping. It should be great. I mean, we shouldn't have any wars if the UN is really doing its job. I know they were involved originally with Russia, Ukraine, and that didn't get done because that was the time to stop it. But, no, it's a. I always say about the UN fantastic potential, but it's all about the people. You know, you can have a wonderful concept, but if you don't have the people. The UN has never lived up to its potential, but I'm the example of it. We do all these wars, and we weren't helped by the un. We weren't hurt by them, but we weren't helped. They didn't do anything. And they're supposed to be solving these problems.

A (53:35)

Okay? Meanwhile, he suggested, quite properly, that the UN has been funding an assault on Western countries and their borders. That, of course, is true as well. The UN is deeply involved with the influx of Third World refugees into European countries. Also, it's the UN Refugee Works Agency, the UN rwa, which is essentially a funding arm of Hamas.

F (53:58)

Not only is the UN not solving the problems it should, too often, it's actually creating new problems for us to solve. The best example is the number one political issue of our time, the crisis of uncontrolled migration. It's uncontrolled. Your countries are being ruined. The United nations is funding an assault on Western countries and their borders.

A (54:25)

Yeah, well, he's not wrong about that. The President also saved some of his Irish for the Europeans. He said, you guys are destroying your own continent, that you are invaded by people who hate your continent, and then you basically treat it as nothing. And also, you guys keep pushing green energy scams that are destroying your energy independence. He's right about both of these things. Obviously, here he was talking about European, European immigration problems.

F (54:49)

Europe is in serious trouble. They've been invaded by a force of illegal aliens like nobody's ever seen before. Illegal aliens are pouring into Europe. Nobody is ever. And nobody's doing anything to change it, to get them out. It's not sustainable. And because they choose to be politically correct, they're doing just absolutely nothing about it. And I have to say, I look at London, where you have a terrible mayor. Terrible, terrible mayor. And it's been so changed, so changed. Now they want to go to Sharia law, but you're in a different country. You can't do that. Both the immigration and their suicidal energy ideas will be the death of Western Europe if something is not done immediately. They cannot. This cannot be sustained.

A (55:48)

He is right about that. He is also right that when you destroy your own economy on behalf of a specious threat of global warming that you're not gonna be able to control anyway. All you're doing is handing power to the wrong people. Here. He was slamming the left for their green energy scam.

F (56:04)

It's the greatest con job ever perpetrated on the world, in my opinion. Climate change, no matter what happens, you're involved in that. No more global warming, no more global cooling. All of these predictions made by the United nations and many others, often for bad reasons, were wrong. They were made by stupid people that have cost their country's fortunes and given those same countries no chance for success. If you don't get away from this green scam, your country is going to fail.

A (56:38)

This is the kind of stuff I love from President Trump. I mean, President Trump is the best foreign policy president in my lifetime, bar none. That is absolutely clear by the way he is also now making comments with regards to Ukraine that I think are totally well founded. He's saying, listen, if Russia won't come to the table, then we are going to fund Ukraine sufficient, not only so they can defend themselves, but they can take back territory. Apparently there have been some intelligence reports suggesting that Russia is not only weak economically, but militarily. They're rather hollow at this point. Here is President Trump saying that the Russian economy is falling apart and Ukraine is actually doing a great job defending itself.

F (57:11)

Well, the biggest progress is that the Russian economy is terrible right now. As you know, it's crashing, and that, frankly, Ukraine is doing a very good job of stopping this very large army. It's pretty amazing. You know, this is a war that should have ended in three days, four days. People said it was going to be very quick. And you got to hand it to the Ukrainian soldiers and everybody involved. It's still going on.

A (57:36)

And the.

F (57:36)

That's, that's not a good thing for Russia. This was supposed to be quick.

A (57:42)

President Trump also added that NATO countries. There have been a bunch of NATO countries. Poland there even talk of drones in Denmark, Estonia, that NATO countries are seeing Russian aircraft invade their space. President Trump said, listen, if, if NATO airspace is invaded by, by Russian aircraft, they should be shot down. Do you think that NATO countries should shoot down Russian aircraft if they enter their airspace?

F (58:09)

Yes, I do.

A (58:12)

Good for President Trump. Seriously, good for President Trump. Again, President Trump had heterodox ideas about Ukraine and Russia entering office, and that's fine. And he tried a bunch of things, and that's fine, too. If you come to the right conclusion, you end up in the right place. That's the thing that matters more than anything I've said before. President Trump is heterodox, but responsive to political incentives into realities on the ground. That's what's happened with Russia, Ukraine. Joining me online is Mary Margaret Olahan, Daily Wire White House correspondent. She's had a lot going on over the course of the last week or so. Wanted to check in with her. Mary Margaret, thanks so much for the time. Really appreciate it.

G (58:44)

Thanks so much for having me, Ben.

A (58:47)

So obviously this week you broke an enormous story about the identity of the attempted Kavanaugh shooter. Obviously, we have now seen a spate in trans identified or trans adjacent crime. And it turns out that the Kavanaugh story may be one of those stories.

G (59:03)

Exactly, Ben. We broke this story that the man who attempted to kill Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh, who was arrested in Kavanaugh's neighborhood right outside his house, thankfully, because federal authorities were stationed there to protect him. That man now we know identifies as transgender, and we know this because we reported last Friday that his defense attorneys are calling him Sophie and referring to him as she.

A (59:27)

Her.

G (59:29)

That came out recently. We had a little bit of a hint a few years ago that this. This attempted killer might identify in this manner. We saw that online he was referring to himself as a woman in some of these game reforms, but we didn't have concrete proof until we got these filings from the defense attorney, and we learned it for the first time. Now the Department of justice is seeking 30 years for this man who did attempt to kill Supreme Court Justice. We know he was deeply mentally ill. He said so himself. And thankfully, he didn't kill Kavanaugh because his sister called him and intervened, and he ultimately turned himself into authorities. But he did travel from California to Maryland, got off at Dulles International Airport, which many of us know very well, and drove in a cab with all kinds of tools intended to sneak into Kavanaugh's house to restrain him, to kill him and potentially kill his family as well. So this story, I mean, we followed it so closely, Ben. You know, I know Daily Wire has cared so much about all of these proceedings, from the overturn of Roe, the protesting outside the homes of the justices, and now three years later, to find this out in the midst of this absolute epidemic of leftist violence, and specifically transgender violence is just incredibly scary and concerning. And I know it's something that I've been asking the President about a lot. I've been asking Caroline Levitt about it. I know that you have been vocal and Matt Walsh has been vocal, and it's really something on all of our minds right now.

A (60:50)

Yeah. Obviously, the permission structures for violence that the left has been creating are bearing some pretty hideous fruit. And the willingness to overlook people who are severely mentally ill and pretend that actually it's just society's fault, that's having some pretty severe consequences. Mayor Margaret, you also attended the memorial for Charlie Kirk. You actually flew on Air Force One to that memorial for Charlie. What was that experience like?

G (61:13)

Well, Ben, it was an honor to be there. It was a privilege to be there. I was blessed to be able to travel in the pool with the President. So we got to fly on Air Force One with him up to the event, to the memorial, and then on the way down as well, back here, same day on Sunday. The event, the memorial itself is incredibly moving. I was down there on the floor and, you know, just walking In. We came in the back as kind of the President and some of the speakers did, and we're able to avoid a lot of these long lines. And as we came in, the press and the photographers, we burst through this curtain, and just everyone around us was singing and, you know, remembering and honoring Charlie. You know, I didn't know him incredibly well. I did interview him a few times, and I just. The whole day was incredibly emotional for me to just see how all these people, even if they didn't know Charlie, they loved him so much, and they want to honor his memory. And, of course, the memorial had so many amazing speakers. We had the President of the United states. We had J.D.

A (62:11)

Vance.

G (62:11)

But I think, of course, the highlight and the most moving part to everyone, and I know. I think you talked about this on your show earlier this week, was Erica and her act of forgiveness to her husband's killer. So it was. It was, like I said, an honor to be there. And we were able to ask the President some questions about the memorial. On the way back, he gaggled on Air Force One. And, you know, I asked him about reuniting with Elon and whether Charlie had an impact on bringing them back together. And he talked about Elon and their relationship and some of the upcoming events that he thinks that they'll participate in together. I also asked him about our story about Kavanaugh on this attempted assassin, and he said that he does believe that transgender violence should be looked into, but he was cautious in saying that we can't say anything definitive on it yet, which I think is, you know, smart on the part of the President. He doesn't want to jump the gun. He wants to make sure that he has all the facts before he jumps to any conclusions. But I did also ask Caroline Levitt about this story and about these incidents of violence during the press briefing earlier this week. And she said that anyone that's denying this pattern is willfully ignorant or willfully blind. And she said that the White House is looking into it, federal authorities are looking into it, and I think we'll have more answers on that soon.

A (63:23)

Well, Mary Margaret, in brighter news, you also had the opportunity to go to an air base and actually Visit the stealth B2 bomber that were actually used in the Trump administration's destruction of the Iranian nuclear facilities, which is a very cool thing. Why don't you tell us a little bit about that?

G (63:38)

Yeah, Ben, this was so much fun, and it was a really cool project in the midst of so much sadness. You know, we filmed this before we learned that Charlie had been so, so brutally taken from us. And so, you know, it came out on Monday. This was when the embargo lifted, and it was such a cool opportunity to go to Whiteman Air Force Base with my boss, Brent Scher. We had so much fun. We were running around like two little kids in a candy store looking at these B2s, getting to go in a simulator and fly it and try and, you know, refuel midair, which just spoiler alert, we were not able to do. We also tried to land. We were not able to do that. But just to speak with some of these military commanders, Colonel Kenish, Colonel Wittila, to hear about how they really assisted with this mission, to hear about how the pilots flew back and their families were all waiting for them on the base after they had successfully completed Operation Midnight Hammer and struck the Iranian nuclear plant. It's just so amazing. Fills us with so much respect for these pilots, but for also all the other people involved in this mission. You know, the crew that loads the bombs, the people that plan out the mission, the commanders, the colonels, all these people. And to see the actual planes, you know, these are some of the most secretive and some of the most brilliant planes that we have in the world, and the United States has them. So it filled me with a lot of respect and awe for our military. And. And it was so much fun to film, and I hope everyone can watch it. I know you aired it on your show earlier this week, and we thought that was pretty cool. So we hope everyone gets a chance to see it and to also understand just what our military did in June of this year and why this was such an important mission.

A (65:14)

That's Mary Margaret Olahan. She's our Daily Wire White House correspondent. Doing a fabulous job, Mary Margaret. Really appreciate the time.

G (65:20)

Thank you, Ben.

A (65:22)

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