Donald Trump (1:52)

I think our government certainly had enough.

Ben Shapiro (1:55)

Of the information to have done something.

Donald Trump (1:56)

They were focused totally on us. No one was looking up the chain of command.

Ben Shapiro (2:00)

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He has not received the credit that he deserves for his continuing support of Israel in the face of genocidal hatred and terrorism from Hamas. And he has somehow drawn a fascinating path to peace in the Gaza Strip. Yesterday, he and Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu met for a long time before actually going out and doing a full press conference where they unveiled President Trump's peace plan, which has been signed onto by Israel, by the United States, by Qatar, by all of the regional players, and by the Europeans, which is an amazing achievement for the president. Now, we let's be clear. Hamas has not accepted this deal yet. But this totally changes the game. Why? Well, because if everybody is on the same page but Hamas, that means that Hamas is totally isolated. And Hamas has relied on the kindness of strangers. Hamas has relied for this entire war on the PR of having Qatar on its side, of having other countries in the Middle east on its side, of having the Europeans on its side. I mean, just a week ago, we were talking about how the Europeans were moving steadily and not so gradually towards declaring a Palestinian state in the aftermath of the worst terror attack on Israel in its history and the worst attack on Jews since World War II. That is how badly things were going for Israel in sort of PR war. And that was because, of course, there is a strong drive among the suicidally empathetic, as the philosopher Gad Said puts it, in Europe, to side with the people who wish to destroy Western civilization. But President Trump has now done something pretty incredible. He has put together a deal here that is workable, a deal that now has signed off from the Israelis and from everybody else in the region, and even the Europeans are signed off on it. So I want to go through the deal here, because whenever you hear that a deal has been signed off on by everybody, the inclination is to say that it is a weak deal. That's just the reality. And indeed, when you read the deal, you will find points where certainly quibbles would be necessary. But overall, what President Trump has done here is he has achieved the strategic goals of the West. He has allowed Israel to achieve its strategic goals in Gaza. If Hamas were to accept this deal While allowing for a path forward. So what exactly is the deal? We're going to go through it in detail and then we'll get to the press conference. So the White House's plan is a 20 point plan. First, Gaza will be a de radicalized terror free zone that does not pose a threat to its neighbors. Now, that's more of a goal than it is an actual plan. Whether that goal is achieved depends on whether the rest of the plan is actually achieved. Gaza will be redeveloped for the benefit of the people of Gaza who have suffered more than enough. Again, more of a goal than a plan. If both sides agree to this proposal, the war will immediately end. Israeli forces will withdraw to the agreed upon line to prepare for a hostage release. During this time, all military operations, including aerial and artillery bombardment, will be suspended and battle lines will remain frozen until conditions are met for the complete staged withdrawal. Within 72 hours of Israel publicly accepting this agreement, all hostages, alive and deceased will be returned. So that is to prevent Hamas from basically dragging out this process. If we get to 73 hours and Hamas is not handed over the live 20 hostages and the dead remaining 28 hostages, if that happens, then Israel will have every right and ability to go back in. Here is what a map looks like of what the lines of battle would look like if indeed this were to happen. So if Hamas were to accept, then essentially you have a small sliver of the Gaza Strip that is currently outside of the IDF's line of control. Even that is actually an old map. Israel has been moving so fast in Gaza City, they've essentially taken nearly all of Gaza City at this point. This is one of the reasons why it is possible that Hamas may accept a deal because they don't exactly have a lot of leverage. The IDF has been doing extraordinary work in Gaza City with pretty much zero casualties at this point. The IDF has been capable of moving out of Gaza city more than 800,000 Gazan civilians who are trying to run roadblocks that have been put up by Hamas who are shooting the civilians to prevent them from escape. In any case, on this map, as you can see, the blue line is a sort of rough idea of Israeli current control. Everything outside the blue line up to the black line is Israeli line of control. So very sliver, very small sliver of the Gaza Strip that is quote, unquote, outside the IDF's current line of control. And then there's a yellow line. That line shows where Israel would pull back to if the hostages were released, which would still leave the IDF in effective control of probably 2/3 to 3/4 of the Gaza Strip. And of course, they would still have some level of security oversight in the rest of the Gaza Strip as well. They're not simply going to pull back to that line and do nothing. You would assume this is one of the mistakes that Israel made in the aftermath of their 2005 pullout from the Gaza Strip. They didn't just pull out completely. They also essentially cut their own intelligence tether, which was a massive mistake, which is why October 7th happened. That's something that Israel has not done in the so called West Bank, Judea and Samaria, where the IDF is constantly operational, at least in intelligence terms, even in areas that are governed by the Palestinian Authority titularly. Okay, then there's a red line. That red line shows the second withdrawal. That is when the sort of interim government is mobilized per standard set in President Trump's plan. And again, Israel would still retain a thick outline of the Gaza Strip in terms of security control. And then finally there would be the third withdrawal. So if he gets to the final, final, final endpoint of this conflict and suddenly you have a workable government in the Gaza Strip, Israel would still retain a buffer zone at the edge of the Gaza Strip because of course, they need that buffer zone. As they found out on October 7, one of the big problems for Israelis is that the distance from terror sensors in the Gaza Strip to actual civilian cities in Israel is minutes. This was the biggest problem on October 7, is that once the fence was cut, you're talking about 100 yards from that fence to actual Israeli cities, Israeli towns, Moshavim that were overrun and destroyed, everybody killed. So Israel is going to have to retain some sort of security control over that buffer zone. 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For every Israeli hostages whose remains are released, Israel will release the remains of 15 deceased Gassins. Now again, this sort of math makes me insane. It has always made me insane. It is ridiculous for any Western country to trade live terrorists for hostages. This is the mistake that Israel made going all the way back to the Gilad Shalit deal in which they exchanged one IDF soldier, they got back one IDF soldier, and in return they released 1,000 Palestinian terrorists, including Yach Yasinwar, the architect of October 7th. But let's be real about this. There is support on the ground in Israel for this sort of a deal. Until Israel changes fundamentally, it's thinking about how hostage taking works. This is going to be the kind of deal that Israelis are willing to cut. Upon acceptance of the agreement, full aid will immediately be sent into the Strip. At a minimum, aid quantities will be consistent with what was included in the January 19, 2025 agreement regarding humanitarian aid, including rehabilitation of infrastructure, rehabilitation of hospitals and bakeries, and entry of necessary equipment to remove rubble and open roads. Now, again, this provision, to me, that's a big give. The reason it's a big give is because it's unsafe. Let's be clear. When you talk about restoration of full aid, including infrastructure help, before the actual restoration of security control, that is a risk. There is no question that's a risk. It's one of the big problems with aid in the first place. There's no aid cutoff before October 7th. There's plenty of food and materiel going into Gaza. All of it was used by Hamas to create the world's greatest terror center. Entry and distribution of aid, according to the plan, will proceed without interference from the two parties through the United nations and its agencies and the Red Crescent, in addition to any other international institutions not associated in any manner with either party. Opening the Rafah crossing in both directions will be subject to the same mechanism implemented under the January 19, 2025 agreement. Again, this should be a sticking point. Israel is giving a lot on this. The United nations has been and will continue to be a tool for terrorism. It always has been. It will continue to be so. The fact that the aid distribution, what happened thanks to the UN should be of little comfort to the Israelis. The idea that Israel isn't giving anything in this deal is silly, of course Israel is. Gaza under the plan will be governed under the temporary transitional governance of a technocratic, apolitical Palestinian committee responsible for delivering the day to day running of public services and municipalities for the people in Gaza. This committee will be made up of qualified Palestinians and international experts with oversight and supervision by a new international transitional body, the Board of Peace, which will be headed and shared by the President with other members and heads of state to be announced, including former Prime Minister Tony Blair. Again, this is sort of Israel's guarantee against the possibility that Hamas immediately reconstitutes and that the aid that flows in is somehow handed over directly to a reconstituted Hamas by another name. The idea would be that there is some sort of Western chaired, quote, unquote, Palestinian Body of Peace, the Board of Peace. Now, in reality, it'll have to be run by Tony Blair with input from the United States. Because the reality unfortunately is that there are not a whole hell of a lot of quote, unquote, Palestinian moderates on the ground. And this brings us to the question of the Palestinian Authority. According to the Trump plan, this body will set the framework and handle the funding for redevelopment of Gaza until such time as the Palestinian Authority has completed its reform program as outlined in various proposals, including President Trump's peace plan in 2020 and the Saudi French proposal, and can securely and effectively take back control of Gaza. This body will call on best international standards to create moderate and efficient governance that serves the people of Gaza and is conducive to attracting investment. Now let's be real about that. It's never going to happen. The Palestinian Authority is corrupt top to bottom. Everybody, Arab and Jew in the region knows this. This is not a secret, okay? The reality is the Palestinian Authority is wildly unpopular in Judea and Samaria thanks to its incredible levels of corruption, thanks to the fact its leadership bilks the population and aid agencies out of literally billions of dollars. The PA is never going to end up governing Gaza. They can't even govern cities in the so called West Bank, Nablus and Jenin and Hebron. They're not going to govern any of these areas. So this is a pipe dream, presumably that Pipe dream is put out there for the pleasure of various Arab nations who are signing onto President Trump's agreement here. The plan continues. A Trump economic development plan to rebuild and energize Gaza will be created by convening a panel of experts who have helped birth some of the thriving modern miracle cities in the Middle East. Many thoughtful investment proposals and exciting development ideas have been crafted by well meaning international groups and will be considered to synthesize these security and governance frameworks to attract and facilitate these investments that will create jobs, opportunity and hope for a future Gaza. So again, what they're talking about here presumably is money flowing in from Qatar, from uae, from Saudi Arabia. You would imagine American investment as well here. A Special Economic zone under the plan will be established with preferred tariff and access rates to be negotiated with participating countries. No one will be forced to leave Gaza. Those who wish to leave will be free to do so and free to return. We'll encourage people to stay and offer them the opportunity to build a better Gaza. Now, again, in reality, all of this is going to be dependent on decent governance. Unfortunately, it is just a fact that a vast majority of Palestinians support terrorism. There's zero, literally zero evidence that Palestinians overall do not support terrorism. Doesn't mean every single Palestinian, every poll statistic literally ever taken shows a vast bulk of Palestinian Arabs supporting terrorism against Jews and the destruction of the State of Israel. So this has created an intractable problem. That intractable problem can be solved by good governance. If in fact there is an area that is governed by a decent board of peace and safety and security is provided and jobs, then the goal is hopefully that people will become significantly more quiescent about their desire to destroy the Jews in the State of Israel and might be satisfied with, you know, economically prosperous lives. That remains to be seen. Suffice it to say, there is going to be no forced population movement outside of the Gaza Strip. And the provision that is meant to allow people to leave who want to leave and then make them free to return if they wish to return. That means they can return to the Gaza Strip and it treats the Gaza Strip as a home for a lot of these people. As opposed to the lie that's been told, which is that Haifa is their home or Tel Aviv is their home. According to the plan, Hamas and other factions agree not to have any role in the governance of Gaza directly, indirectly or in any form. All military, terror and offensive infrastructure, including tunnels and weapon production facilities, which be destroyed and not rebuilt, there will be a process of demilitarization of Gaza under the supervision of independent monitors, which will include placing weapons permanently beyond use. Through an agreed process of decommissioning, supported by an internationally funded buyback and reintegration program, all verified by independent monitors, New Gaza will be fully committed to building a prosperous economy and peaceful coexistence with their neighbors. A guarantee will also be provided by regional partners to ensure that Hamas and factions comply with their obligations and and that New Gaza poses no threat to its neighbors or people. Now, again, this raises the question as to why Hamas would accept the deal. If effectively they're going to have no governance power in the Gaza Strip, why would they give up the hostages? And the answer is because if they literally have no hope, if it turns out that even their terror masters in Qatar, and let's be clear, Qatar plays both sides of the table. They always have. Qatar could have put pressure on Hamas to give up the hostages October 8th. They could have. Qatar did not do that. Instead, Qatar sponsored Hamas. Qatar played defense for Hamas. Qatar played both sides of the table, as they're apt to do well now that is over. Qatar apparently has joined in on the process of isolating Hamas. That is the only reason why this has happened and is worthwhile noting. The reason that Qatar did that, at least in part, is because they are quite concerned that if this war continues, that Israel, which as you'll see in a moment, committed not to attacking Hamas on Qatari territory, at some point Israel, if the hostages continue to be held, will simply say, you know what, not worth it anymore. And they go into Qatar and they kill Hamas members in Qatar. So Qatar does not wish to be in the crossfire at this point. So that unsuccessful strike that Israel launched directly into Qatar to kill Hamas's leadership, it may have been tactically unsuccessful, but it was strategically successful in putting pressure on the Qataris to actually join in on the international consortium dedicated to ending Hamas rule over the Gaza Strip. And that'd be the only reason why Hamas would give up the ghost. Here the plan continues. The United States will work with Arab and international partners to develop a temporary international stabilization force to immediately deploy in Gaza. The ISF will train and provide support to vetted Palestinian police forces in Gaza and will consult with Jordan and Egypt, who have extensive experience in this field. The ISF will work with Israel and Egypt to help secure border areas along with newly trained Palestinian police forces. A deconfliction mechanism will be agreed upon by all of the parties. Now, again, what's important there is that this international stabilization force will not be a non transparent force. It will have coordination, including Israel. Israel is simply not going to give up all eyes on the ground and trust that the Egyptians and Jordanians, all of whom have been acting, by the way, in tacit consultation with Hamas throughout this conflict. Israel isn't going to give up any capacity to actually police this area, given what happened on October 7th. As part of the plan, Israel will not occupy or annex Gaza. As the ISF establishes control and stability, the IDF withdraw based on standards, milestones and timeframes linked to demilitarization that will be agreed upon between the idf, isf, the guarantors in the United States, with the objective of a secure Gaza that no longer poses a threat to Israel, Egypt or its citizens. Practically, the IDF will progressively hand over the Gaza territory it occupies to the isf. Now again, that's very gradual because Israel isn't going to give over that territory until they feel safe. Now, if Hamas delays or rejects this proposal, the above, including the scaled up aid operation, will proceed in the terror free areas handed over from the IDF to the isf. So in other words, this plan is going into place whether or not Hamas agrees. So the areas that Israel has already cleared will end up being turned over to the ISF anyway. It will end up being held by this international consortium. So the only question is whether the areas that are quote unquote outside Israeli control, namely those areas on the coast along the Mediterranean, whether Hamas gives up the ghost in those areas. But every place else this plan is happening, whether Hamas likes it or not, an intra faith dialogue process will be established based on the values of tolerance and peaceful coexistence to try and change the mindsets and narratives of Palestinians and Israelis by emphasizing the benefits that can be derived from peace. Okay, good luck with that. And finally, while Gaza redevelopment advances and when the PA reform program is faithfully carried out, the conditions may finally be in place for a credible pathway to to Palestinian self determination and statehood, which we recognize is the aspiration of the Palestinian people. Now notice what that isn't. That is not a recognition of a Palestinian state. That is not even a recognition of a real pathway toward a Palestinian state. It is a recognition that if gigantic changes happen on the ground and the Palestinian Authority somehow moderates and somehow does all of the reform, and that if all of these hurdles are jumped, then maybe at some point there's a pathway to a Palestinian state. Now again, good luck with that. What this doesn't do is say there must be a Palestinian state in order for there to be a settlement in Gaza. That obviously is untrue and the Trump administration is making no bones about that. And now neither is the international community. They are not saying that as a sort of prerequisite to a peace agreement in Gaza or to an end to the war, there has to be a Palestinian state, which is something very different than Emmanuel Macron fool, Keir Starmer fool and the Spanish government fools have been saying so. Again, overall, it's a plan where there's some give and there's some take. But this is the best plan that that has been presented or the best plan likely to be presented. Now, before the actual presser happened between President Trump and Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu yesterday, there was a meeting between Trump and Netanyahu in the Oval. And during that meeting, Prime Minister Netanyahu called up the Prime Minister of Qatar and essentially apologized for the strike inside Qatar. According to the White House's readout, the President expressed his desire to put Israel Qatar relations on a positive track after years of mutual grievances and miscommunications as a first step. Prime Minister Netanyahu expressed his deep regret that Israelis that Israel's missile strikes against Hamas targets in Qatar unintentionally killed a Qatari serviceman. He further expressed regret that in targeting Hamas leadership during hostage negotiations and Israel violated Qatari's sovereignty and affirmed that Israel will not conduct such an attack again in the future. Now, again, do I like this on a moral level? I do not. Qatar has literally to this day never condemned October 7th. So, and of course they've been hostage, they've been holding all of the Hamas leadership there. They've been paying them lots of money. They've been keeping them in five star hotels. They've funded Hamas to the tune of billions of dollars. It's an ugly thing that Netanyahu had to do on a political and moral level here. But if that's the precondition to get to the agreement, that is what it is. Getting Qatar on board to pressure Hamas apparently required this as some sort of prerequisite. Prime Minister Al Thani welcomed these assurances, emphasizing Qatar's readiness to contribute meaningfully to regionally secure and stable and stable negotiations. And Prime Minister Netanyahu agreed to the same. Now, it's a little bit different than the readout from the Prime Minister of Israel. Apparently he said, quote, Netanyahu said this to, to the Prime Minister of Qatar, I want you to know that Israel regrets that one of your citizens was killed in our strike. I want to assure you that Israel was targeting Hamas, not Qataris. I also want to assure you that Israel has no plan to violate your sovereignty again in the future. And I have made that commitment to the President. I know your leadership has grievances against Israel and Israel has grievances against Qatar, from support for the Muslim Brotherhood to how Israel is portrayed on Al Jazeera, to support for anti Israel sentiment on college campuses. I welcome the president's idea to establish a trilateral group to address both our countries and outstanding grievances. Okay, so bottom line is all of that seems to be at least a little bit for show. And what I mean by that is not that Israel is going to attack inside Qatar again, but if you're going to get everybody back on the same page, you have to say some pretty words about a trilateral commission and how everybody's going to get along in the future. Now, let's be clear. If Qatar continues to be a supporter of Hamas and into the future, it is no longer guaranteed that negotiations will take place or negotiations break down or Hamas continues to hold hostages. It's possible that that all goes sideways as well. Okay, so all of this culminated yesterday in a major press conference between the President of the United States and Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. President Trump, again, he's a transformative leader, particularly in the Middle East. He seems to understand at a gut level what works in the Middle east, namely power. One of the most asinine notions about the Middle east that's been pressed forward by the State Department for literally decades, by the Europeans for a long time, is that moral suasion is the language of the Middle East. That is ridiculous. Moral suasion has never been the language of the Middle East. Moral suasion may be a language that is spoken in Europe. It may be a language that's spoken in the halls of Congress or in the halls of the White House. It is not a language that is spoken in the Middle East. In the Middle east, it is all about power. And that is something that President Trump innately understands. His background in real estate negotiation here comes in extremely handy. And so what he really understands here is that Israel is the military powerhouse of the region, that Israel is the technological powerhouse of the region. That American Israel alliance, which has been highly beneficial to both sides. The United States has gained massively in terms of its technological capability, particular military capability, through cooperation with Israel. Its intelligence base in the Middle east is significantly stronger, based on Israel. Israel has been described as a sort of aircraft carrier that is land based in the Middle East. America does not pay for bases in Israel. America does pay Qatar a lot of money for its bases in Qatar and pays Saudi a lot of money for its bases in Saudi. Qatar then contributes some of that money back because, of course, that is a form of bribery the Qataris try to use on Americans. But America pays billions of dollars for bases in Japan and Germany and all over the world. The United States does not pay billions of dollars for, quote, unquote, a base in Israel. 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Donald Trump (30:01)

History has shown us that those who have relations with Israel have thrived, while those who have devoted resources and attention toward the destruction and even annihilation of Israel have languished. They haven't done well.

Ben Shapiro (30:18)

So that, of course, is just descriptively true. That is a descriptively true situation, that the countries that have worked hand in glove with Israel are doing better. The ones that do not work with Israel have been doing worse, which is why the Abraham Accords, despite all of the pressures of the last couple of years, have held. Meanwhile, President Trump reported on the conversation between Netanyahu and the Qatari pm.

Donald Trump (30:40)

I'm pleased to report that earlier today we took another important step toward greater understanding of the region. A short time ago, we had a historic phone call in the Oval Office with Prime Minister Thani, who's really a great, great person. So we had a great talk. And I was on the phone and Bibi was talking. Prime Minister Al Thani was of Qatar was. They really had A heart to heart conversation. It was a great conversation. I thought it was productive. It was everything that you need to have something turn out to be successful. And I want to thank Bibi and I want to thank the Prime Minister. It was fantastic.

Ben Shapiro (31:27)

Okay, so again, that is President Trump simply setting the groundwork for what's to come next. So he's very optimistic at the possibility that something happens here. He says this is potentially one of the greatest days ever. The President is fond of superlatives.

Donald Trump (31:40)

So this is a big, big day, a beautiful day, potentially one of the great days ever in civilization. Things that have been going on for hundreds of years and thousands of years. We're going to, at least we're at a minimum, very, very close. And I think we're beyond very close. And I want to thank Bibi for really getting in there and doing her job. We've worked well together, as we have with many other countries, both of us with many other countries, which is the only way this whole situation gets solved. And I'm not just talking about Gaza. Gaza is one thing, but we're talking about much beyond Gaza. The whole deal, everything getting. So it's called peace in the Middle East.

Ben Shapiro (32:30)

Okay. And the president, of course, does want to see the Abraham Accords expanded to include places like Saudi Arabia, which would be, of course, the big move here. And with Saudi signed onto the deal with Egypt and Jordan signed onto the deal with all the rest of the countries in the region signed onto the deal, up to and including Turkey, by the way, the ground is set for something much broader to happen here. Should Hamas accept the deal. And if they don't, then Hamas is totally isolated diplomatically. Now, what that really means, practically, as we'll get to in a little while, is that Israel will have to simply enforce the plan without regard to Hamas. Whether they get the hostages back or not, they're going to move toward implementation of this plan. They'll finish off Gaza City, they'll continue the establishment of humanitarian enclaves, that a counterinsurgency will then take place, but major war fighting operations will essentially be over. This plan is going into place one way or another. That is, that is just the reality of the situation. Something like this plan is going to happen. President Trump starts off by explaining the moral background here, which does, in fact, make a difference. Because while the President understands that power governs in the Middle east, he also understands where the moral calculus lies. And the answer is the onus is on Hamas. And the President has done something truly incredible here, which is to mobilize the entire world against Hamas. That actually does take a lot of that takes a lot. And the president has put his force and power behind that. Good for him.

Donald Trump (33:49)

Let us not forget how we got here. Hamas was elected by the Palestinian people. Israel withdrew from Gaza thinking they would live in peace. Remember that? A long time ago, they withdrew. They said, you take it. This is our contribution to peace. But that didn't work out. That didn't work out. It was the opposite of peace. They pulled away. They let them have it.

Ben Shapiro (34:15)

Okay, well, he's right about that. And then he points out that Hamas has been using human shields, and he urged Palestinians to condemn Hamas. Again, these are points that very few presidents would make because most of them have been captured by the idea that if you soft sell the actual situation in the Middle east, you're better off. President Trump is a man when it comes to the Middle east of hard truths, and here he is.

Donald Trump (34:36)

Instead of building a better life for the Palestinians, Hamas diverted resources to build over 400 miles of tunnels and terror infrastructure, rocket production facilities, and hid their military command posts and launch sites in hospitals, schools, and mosques. So if you went after them, you'd be after them and you wouldn't even realize you ended up knocking out a hospital or school or a mosque. That terrible thing. Terrible, terrible way to have to fight. No fight is good, but that's a real bad one. So there are many Palestinians who wish to live in peace. Many, many, many. I've seen so many of them, and they have support. And I challenge the Palestinians to take responsibility for their destiny, because that's what we're giving them. We're giving them responsibility for their destiny, fully condemn and prohibit terrorism and earn their way to a brighter future.

Ben Shapiro (35:35)

Well, this is right. This is right. And the stupidity of the Europeans who have basically said that we are going to simply drop a declaration of a state upon you without any actual changes in behavior, mentality, or future orientation. That is wildly counterproductive. What Trump is saying here is you earn your way to a state. If you want a state, you're going to actually have to, you know, develop the instinct that leads toward productivity and mutual coexistence as opposed to destruction. I mean, whether or not you like it, that happens to be true. President Trump said that the goal here is to end the military capabilities of.

Donald Trump (36:10)

Hamas under the plan Arab and Muslim countries have committed and in writing in many cases. But I actually would take their word for it. The people I mentioned, I take their word for it to demilitarize Gaza, and that's quickly decommission the military capabilities of Hamas and all other terror organizations. Do that immediately. And we're relying on the countries that I named and others to deal with Hamas. And I'm hearing that Hamas wants to get this done to and that's a good thing, and destroy all terror infrastructure, including the tunnels, weapons of production facilities. They have a lot of production facilities that we're destroying.

Ben Shapiro (37:01)

Well, again, all of this is right. So the president spelled out much of what we've already discussed. He said that if Hamas agrees, all hostages will be released within 72 hours.

Donald Trump (37:10)

If accepted by Hamas. His proposal calls for the release of all remaining hostages immediately, but in no case, more than 72 hours. So the hostages are coming back. And I hate even saying this from the standpoint, doesn't sound right, but it is so important to the parents, the bodies of the young men. I believe in almost all cases, the young men are coming back immediately.

Ben Shapiro (37:45)

So again, the. The president trying to push this thing forward, and he says, what's the stick? So this is the carrot, right? The carrot is an Israeli pullback, a transitional government, aid packages to rebuild the Strip, all the rest of this. The stick is if Hamas rejects it, then Israel has his full backing to do whatever Israel has to do to finish the job, which will happen in short order, by the way. Again, the underrated part of all of this is that Israel's military, the idf, has done such an extraordinary job in the Gaza Strip, particularly in places like Rafah and now in Gaza City, where they are moving in heavily urban environments, and they've cleared hundreds of thousands of civilians from the area, literally almost a million civilians from the area of the Gaza City in order to prevent their casualty, in order to prevent their deaths. And now their armory is moving through Gaza City like a hot knife through butterfly. Here is President Trump saying, listen, they don't have a lot of choices on the table. If they reject it, Israel's gonna finish it anyway.

Donald Trump (38:41)

If they're unable to do so, then Israel would have the absolute right and actually our full backing, the US Full bank backing, Marcos here, and a lot of our leaders are here. Our great Vice President Susie Wiles, Steve Witkoff, Jared Kushner. They've been so involved in this, in this process, I don't think anybody else could have done it or even. Even come close. But it's. We're right there. We're right there. First time in thousands of years, I think you can probably say, if you really look into it, if you study back, if you, if you're a scholar, you would say thousands of years, Israel would have my fall back into finish the job of destroying the threat of Hamas.

Ben Shapiro (39:31)

Okay, well, again, this is the proper response by President Trump. He also points out, again, he's putting responsibility where it lies. He says the Palestinian Authority, they supposedly have been pursuing peace, which of course is a gigantic license. Oslo, one of the greatest diplomatic failures of all time. The Oslo Accords, a giant mistake by people on all sides of the good hearted. Huge mistake by Israel, huge mistake by the United States. The Oslo Accords one of the great disastrous agreements in the history of diplomacy. But the Palestinian Authority has been lying for some 30 years. Mahmoud Abbas, who is now almost 90 years old. And the last election that was held for Mahmoud Abbas as president, I believe took place in 2006. So he is currently in the 19th year of a four year term. Mahmoud Abbas. And the idea is that they are somehow going to reform. Yeah, good luck with that. President Trump says, listen, if they don't complete the reforms, that's on them. That's their problem.

Donald Trump (40:21)

If the Palestinian Authority does not complete the reforms that I laid out in my vision for peace in 2020, they'll have only themselves to blame. We're giving them an amazing footprint and they have amazing support from the leaders of the Arab world and the Muslim world. Great, great leaders. These are great leaders. These are unbelievable leaders that have built great countries and very wealthy countries. What the future holds for the Palestinians, no one really knows. But the plan that we put forward today is focused on ending the war immediately. Getting all of our hostages back, getting everything back. Hard to believe when you even say it. And creating conditions for durable Israeli security and Palestinian success.

Ben Shapiro (41:09)

Now, again, all this is praiseworthy. It wouldn't be a full Donald Trump press conference without a couple of traditional Trumpisms. One of my favorites, he announced an international oversight board starring Donald J. Trump. This is, this is pretty solid. Trump here.

Donald Trump (41:24)

To ensure the success of this effort, my plan calls for the creation of a new international oversight body, the Board of Peace. We call it the Board of Peace. Sort of a beautiful name, the Board of Peace, which will be headed, not at my request, believe me, I'm very busy. But we have to make sure this works. The leaders of the African American, Arab world and Israel and everybody involved asked me to do this. So it would be headed by a gentleman known as President Donald J. Trump of the United States. That's what I want, is some extra work to do. But it's so important that I'm willing to do it. And we'll do it right. And we're going to put leaders from other countries on and leaders that are very distinguished leaders. And we'll have a board and one of the people, people that wants to be on the board is the uk, Former Prime Minister Tony Blair. Good man. Very good man. And some others. And they'll be named over the next few days.

Ben Shapiro (42:29)

So that was not his best Trumpism. I had to save his best Trumpism for last. That was his pronunciation of the Abraham Accords. What he's trying to do here, by the way, is that in Hebrew, Abraham is pronounced Avraham. And he's sort of doing an American version here, which is good stuff here from the president.

Donald Trump (42:51)

In addition to negotiating the Abraham Accords, I like to say it that way because the real people, that's what they call Abraham. I would say Abraham, but it's so much nicer when you say Abraham. So much more elegant.

Ben Shapiro (43:12)

Solid stuff there from the president. Alrighty. Coming up, we'll get to more from this press conference. Plus, the United States talking about a gigantic loan to Argentina. Why? I'll explain. First, there is a tragedy unfolding in America, like right now. And someday future generations are probably going to see it in a similar light. Every single day, about 3,000 pregnancies end in abortion. Currently, one in four pregnancies does not make it to birth. Unlike past horrors, in this moment, you actually can do something. It's happening, like right now. Across the country, Preborn Network clinics are standing with women in the darkest hours of uncertainty. They offer genuine compassion, practical help, and the resources needed to empower women to make informed choices. This year alone, their efforts have helped rescue more than 38,000 babies. Each one a life given a chance because someone cared enough to be there and to help. A single moment, such as a mom seeing her baby on an ultrasound screen, can change everything. It's powerful. Studies show this simple act can double the likelihood a woman will choose life for her child. These clinics aren't just saving lives. They're offering hope and support when it's needed the most. So the question comes full circle. If you knew you could make a difference and save lives today, wouldn't you choose to do something you can? Right now, just 28 bucks provides a life saving ultrasound. Head ON over to preborn.com BEN that's preborn.com BEN. Or dial £250 and say keyword baby. That's £250 baby. Also, when inflation jumps, when you hear the national Debt is over $37 trillion. Have you ever thought hey, maybe I should buy gold like right now. Well, I thought that and so I did. Because, you know, I am kind of concerned about all of those things. Well, whether to protect against the dollar's loss in purchasing power, the peace of mind during global instability, or just sensible diversification. Birch Gold Group believes every American needs to own some physical gold. And so along with the daily wire, Birch Gold has created something special this month through September 30th. If you buy from Birch Gold, you will get a signed copy of my brand new book, Lions and Scavengers, plus your very own golden Ben Shapiro bookmark. The bookmark looks great by the way. We released an extremely limited quantity of the autographed books and bookmarks. So text BEN to 98.9898. So claim your eligibility and start the process. Plus, Birch Gold can help you roll an existing IRA or 401K into an IRA in gold and you're still eligible for a signed copy of Lions and Scavengers. I buy my gold from Birch Gold. So do tens of thousands of other lions. Would now be a good time to do it again? They make it really, really easy. You call them up, you ask all your questions, they facilitate the process. And now you got gold in your safe. I have some in my safe. Text my name BEN to 9898. 98. Claim your eligibility today. Act before September 30th. Again, text BEN to 9798. 98. So Prime Minister Netanyahu, for his part, the truth is that Prime Minister Netanyahu is making some political sacrifices here. The right wing of his coalition in Israel is not on board with many of the provisions here. Provisions ranging from the possibility of reform Palestinian Authority to the fact that the Prime Minister of Israel recently announced in consolidation with the United States that he would not immediately be moving to annex Judea and Samaria, which has been a long time goal of the right wing bloc in Israel. Recognizing the reality, which is that there will be no Palestinian states in Judea and Samaria, nor by the way, should there be. So it is not as though Netanyahu isn't taking political risk on his side. He certainly is. He made the point yesterday at this press conference with the President that his five goals that he had spelled out a little bit earlier last month, that those goals are being met in the negotiations that were signed off on by Israel yesterday.

Benjamin Netanyahu (46:17)

All our hostages, both those who are alive and those who died, all of them will return home immediately. Hamas will be disarmed. Gaza will be demilitarized. Israel will retain security responsibility, including a security perimeter, for the foreseeable future. And lastly, Gaza will have a peaceful civilian administration that is run neither by Hamas. Hamas nor by the Palestinian Authority.

Ben Shapiro (46:53)

So, again, he's right about that. He also points out that if Hamas rejects the plan, well, then the job's just going to get finished.

Benjamin Netanyahu (47:00)

But if Hamas rejects your plan, Mr. President, or if they supposedly accept it and then basically do everything to counter it, then Israel will finish the job by itself. This can be done the easy way, or it can be done the hard way, but it will be done. We prefer the easy way, but it has to be done. All these goals must be achieved because we didn't fight this horrible fight, sacrificed the finest of our young men to have Hamas stay in Gaza and threaten us again and again and again with these horrific massacres.

Ben Shapiro (47:49)

Now, by the way, overall, the levels of support in Israel for Trump's plan are extremely high. They're very, very high. And so the only obstacle now is whether Hamas agrees or not. Prime Minister Netanyahu had words of praise for President Trump. Again, these were harsh negotiations. I mean, again, I know a lot of people on all sides of the table in this particular negotiation, the idea here that everything was sort of hunky dory, that it was an easy negotiation, that there weren't sacrifices made on all sides. It's not true. It was a very hard nosed negotiation taking place between the White House and the Israeli administration. Netanyahu had words of praise for President Trump.

Benjamin Netanyahu (48:27)

While you focus at home on making America great again, your leadership abroad is changing the world for the better, ending wars and advancing peace. I believe that today we're taking a critical step towards both ending the war in Gaza and setting the stage for dramatically advancing peace in the Middle East.

Ben Shapiro (48:56)

Obviously, not only is that a good thing, one of the things that's unique right now, and again, I point this out, this plan has the support of everyone. This is not a unilateral American plan. It's not a unilateral Israeli plan. It is a plan with everyone's support, which is, again, kind of a jujitsu here by the Trump administration. A joint statement by the foreign ministers of Egypt, Jordan, uae, Indonesia, Pakistan, Turkey, Saudi and Qatar says, quote, we welcome the announcement by US President Trump of his proposal, which includes ending the war, rebuilding Gaza, preventing the uprooting of the Palestinian people, and promoting comprehensive peace. Can you imagine that statement a week ago, the president of Turkey, Erdogan, who is awful, who is a dictator, who is in many cases a pro Islamist dictator. He is backing the HTS regime in Syria, which it has yet to be decided whether that regime is going to moderate or whether they just remain a terrorist regime. He said, quote, I praise the efforts and leadership of President Trump, whose goal is to stop the bloodshed in Gaza and achieve a ceasefire. Turkey will continue to contribute to the process to establish a just and lasting peace accepted by all parties. It is truly amazing that somehow the media have tried to suggest that President Trump, when it comes to the Middle east, is incompetent. Compared to Barack Obama or literally anyone else, Donald Trump is the most competent leader in American history. When it comes to the Middle east, it is not particularly close. Meanwhile, in other big foreign policy news, the president of the United States is prepared to give a $20 billion financial lifeline to Argentina. The reason he is doing that is because obviously Argentina was in basically disastrous financial position. They're going bankrupt every five minutes. And then Javier Milei, the president of Argentina, was elected and he's been taking extraordinary austerity measures, restructuring the entire economy. However, one of the big problems is that everyone is sort of afraid that eventually Milei is going to lose an election. If he loses an election, then any investment you make in Argentina immediately is going to get flushed down the toilet. So right now we are essentially doing a Marshall Plan for Argentina. We are essentially helping float Argentina to the point of financial stability so that they are in the future a free market oriented, Western oriented, America oriented country. And there are people who are treating this as though this is somehow terrible. No, this is actually quite good. This is significantly better than allowing Argentina to once again fall into the hands of a left wing agitators, left wing dictatorial types who work in cahoots with Russia and China, this is the way foreign policy works. The Marshall Plan was a good idea. It kept Western Europe out of the hands of the Communists. And this is a good idea as well. According to the Washington Post, the US Intervention stems from a blend of political and economic considerations. This month, Milei's party was trounced in provincial elections in Buenos Aires, raising doubts about his ability to retain a legislative majority in the October 26 midterm elections. Treasury Secretary Scott Besson said Melee needs a bridge to the election so he can win a renewed mandate for reform. And again, this isn't really about Melee so much as it is about free market orientation in Argentina. If you don't wish Argentina to go bankrupt again and then fall into the hands of the Kirchner right left back into Peronism, if you wish for that to happen, then essentially providing some sort of baseline guarantees that Argentina can get through the next elections and get right footed is a good idea. So there are some people who are upset about all of this because I guess the idea is that if we lend money to the Argentinians, even if we get it back, that this is somehow a, a misuse of America's foreign policy funding. But again, foreign policy is about the second worst choice. It's about making the no one wants to give loans to Argentina, nobody wants to give guarantees to Argentina, nobody wants to do that. But if that is the thing that prevents Argentina from turning back into a sort of Chinese lake, that is a good thing. So far, Scott Besson's posts on X represent the only details that have been made public about the planned U.S. actions. A key unknown is what Argentina will offer as collateral in return for any U.S. loan. Bessen says Argentina is system systemically important, suggesting its problems could damage the global financial system. Now again, the goal is can you write, can you fix the cab sizing Argentinian economy and provide enough stability for investors that actually there's a long term plan in Argentina? Bessance is trying to make that happen. So is Trump. It's a smart foreign policy move, okay? Meanwhile, speaking of the American economy, President Trump held talks with Democrats yesterday at the White House trying to avert a government shutdown. The reality is that the Democrats own the shutdown. Everybody basically knows this at this point, apparently. According to House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries, it was a frank and direct discussion. But significant and meaningful differences remain. There are less than 36 hours before federal funding lapses and agencies partially close. Republicans are like, okay, well, you know, don't threaten us with a good time. And Democrats keep trying to shut down the government for presumably no reason. Vice President J.D. vance says you don't shut the government down. You don't use your policy disagreements as leverage to not pay our troops to not have essential services. If government actually function now, is it likely that this gets averted? The answer is it's. It's unlikely. My guess is that you'll get a few days of government shutdown and then there will be some deal that is struck that makes minor concessions to Democrats so they can claim victory and then Democrats cave. So is this going to be sort of a major issue moving forward in American politics? Highly unlikely. Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer is already sounding out his members about a spending bill to reopen the government for seven to ten days almost immediately upon the set in of the government shutdown. A seven to ten day spending bill would require unanimous consent in the Senate. Apparently these are talks in their initial phases. Is this like a big deal? Unlikely. Unlikely. Meanwhile, Democrats again. For, for so many Democrats, it's all about signaling. It's all about signaling to their left wing base. And that is why they can't get out of their own way. It's truly amazing. It really is. If Democrats simply abandon their most far left positions, they'd be significantly better off. But they cannot. It is not possible for them. Instead of simply operating on the basis of a sort of economic populism, instead they have decided that they are going to double down on stupid. They're going to get more and more extreme. So. Ta Nehisi Coates, truly one of the most egregiously awful people in American politics. A purple writer, wildly overpraised. A James Baldwin knockoff without the talent or the life difficulties. Ta Nehisi Coates. He took the time to sit with Ezra Klein where he declared that Charlie Kirk's legacy was hate. Good luck with this argument.

Ta-Nehisi Coates (55:21)

Seriously, I don't take any joy in saying this, but we sometimes soothe ourselves by pointing out that love, acceptance, warmth, that these are powerful forces. I believe they are. I also believe hate is a powerful force. I believe it's a powerful, powerful unifying force. And I think Charlie Kirk was a hate monger. I really need to say this over and over again. I have a politic that rejects violence, that rejects political violence. I take no joy in the killing of anyone, no matter what they said. But if you ask me what the truth of his life was and the truth of his public life, I would have to tell you it's hate. I'd have to tell you it is the usage of hate and the harnessing of hate towards political ends.

Ben Shapiro (56:11)

What a bag of trash he is. Seriously, this is a person who wrote an entire book that was effectively a defense of Hamas. This is a person who literally talked in between the world and me about feeling nothing while people burned to death in the World Trade Centers. But don't worry, he rejects political violence. I mean, but. But this is what the Democratic Party cannot divide from. They refuse to divide from it because it's not enough for them to push economic populism, a thing they've been pushing my entire life. Instead they have to tie it to a sort of bizarre DEI racism or radical trans politics. They just can't let go. Which is why they're not pushing sort of traditional blue collar, purple state Democrats who engage in economic Populism. Instead, they're pushing people like Zoran Mamdani. They have to. Their coalition requires the radicalism. I mean, literally, yesterday, Zoran Mamdani refused to denounce Hamas yesterday. And this guy's going to be the mayor of New York. And they are treating him as though he is some sort of thought leader for the Democratic Party. It's amazing.

Zoran Mamdani (57:10)

I am not going to echo the words of Benjamin Netanyahu. I can, however, share my own words and say them right here, which is that my politics is built on a universality. And I can think of no better illustration of that than from the words of the hostage families themselves. Everyone. For everyone. It is something that they have said for months. It is something that they have called for in not only understanding that those hostages must be released, but that this is intertwined with the end of this genocide.

Ben Shapiro (57:42)

God, he is awful. He's just. And this is the person who they keep promoting, by the way. His economic populism amounts to never having to defend his actual plans. Yesterday, he did a press conference about his plan to buy up a bunch of housing. And by. By. I mean spend your taxpayer dollars buying housing and then turning it into rundown trash heaps. Well, he. He smirked as he received zero questions on his housing plan. We'll start with on topic questions first, please.

Zoran Mamdani (58:11)

No questions at all. Go, Heather.

Ben Shapiro (58:15)

Now there's a big. There's a big smile from this socialistic, Marxist, Islamist, f. Friendly moron. Glad that you got. You know what, New York, you get what you deserve. You guys decide to vote for this, you break it, you bought it. Meanwhile, the Democratic Party continues to embrace him. Representative Dan Goldman says, don't worry, we share a lot of goals. He says, yeah, it's kind of wrong that Mamdani is saying that he will arrest the prime Minister of Israel if he has the ability to do so. But we do share many, many goals. The cowardice here is pretty astonishing. Well, I've had some good conversation with Zoram Hamdani shortly after the primary. He and I have a lot of shared views on affordability and the desire to address our housing crisis, to address the expensive child care. We work together on free bus pilot in the state legislature. And so I think we share a lot of the goals. So good luck to the Democratic Party continuing to embrace all this. President Trump, by the way, is enjoying the Mamdani candidacy probably a little too much. He put out a statement saying that he is going to cut off money to New York City if. If Mamdani wins, he's gonna have problems with Washington like no mayor in in the history of our once great city. President Trump posted on Truth Social, Remember, he needs the money from me as president in order to fulfill all of his fake communist promises. He won't be getting any of it, so what's the point of voting for him? This ideology has failed always for thousands of years. It will fail again. And that's guaranteed a fair point there from the President of the United States. But the Democratic Party is totally unable to to divide off from this. It's why moderates in the Democratic Party, people like Rahm Emanuel, they are running uphill, uphill races here. This is the point of a Wall Street Journal article about Rahm Emanuel, the former chief of staff to Barack Obama, who's now because the Democratic Party has moved so far to the left, an actual centrist quote, his centrist message clashes with an insurgent progressive base, mesmerized by figures such as Representative Alexander Ocasio Cortez and Zora Mamzani, the self described Democratic socialist favored in New York City's November mayoral election. Quote, it felt at times a little bit like watching a professional athlete return to the arena after an extended absence. The game has changed significantly since the 65 year old was last a candidate in 2018. With the explosion of social media and viral videos in politics, Emmanuel made frequent mentions of political and policy wins. He helped Bill Clinton and Barack Obama achieve as well as his own in Chicago. But gone were his recent criticisms of his party's brand as toxic and weak and woke. Well, he was right about that was toxic, weak and woke. But you know, it ain't going to pay off for him inside the Democratic Party in all likelihood. Okay. Meanwhile, it is worth noting there was major controversy that had broken out after the death of Charlie Kirk about a letter that Charlie wrote to the Prime Minister of Israel. There were those online who are suggesting that the letter that Charlie wrote to the Prime Minister of Israel was somehow a sort of Dear John letter. It was sort of a breakup letter that Charlie was oriented against Israel in this letter. The full text of that letter has now been revealed by the New York Post, among other publications, and suffice it to say, the letter is precisely the opposite. The letter from Charlie was very pro Israel. Obviously. Charlie's letter is seven pages long and it is offering just a bunch of pretty good solid social media advice to the government of Israel. He points out that a lot of young people are being misinformed by TikTok, being misinformed by the videos they watch on YouTube. And because Charlie was such a social media guru, he basically laid out a series of suggestions in order to help Israel combat all of the anti Israel, anti Zionist, anti Semitic crap that was put out on social media. People who lied and said that the letter was anything but that were in fact lying. It wasn't true. It is worth pointing that out. You can go check out the letter in full over at the New York Post. Okay. Meanwhile, I have to say that it is amusing to watch as the United Kingdom continues to sink into irrelevance and stupidity. So they had to walk back a study that they recently put out via the National Health Service trying to talk up cousin marriage. Now, the only reason that there are people in the UK trying to talk up cousin marriage is because a vast number of importees from the third world, particularly from Muslim countries, are marrying their cousins in Great Britain. And it turns out that cousin marriage not actually a wonderful thing. It comes along with some risk of genetic anomaly, obviously. But it turns out that also solid case that the west was built on the banning of cousin marriage. This is a case that was made pretty openly by an author named Joseph Henrich in a great book called the Weirdest People in the World, which is about people who are from wealthy, well educated, industrialized, rich countries. And basically Henrik makes the case that the Catholic Church banning cousin marriage on the continent is what led to the rise of Europe as a great world power. Because cousin marriages create kinship networks, they create tribe. When you get rid of cousin marriage, then actually the nuclear family becomes the locus of all living and then you have to form other social bonds in the form of religious community or national identity or all the rest. According to Henrich, quote, each century of Western church exposure cuts the rate of cousin marriage by nearly 60%. And the idea is that when you cut off cousin marriage, you get greater individualism, more trust in strangers, because not everybody is your cousin. More analytic thinking to apply broad rules to people who are non kin and all the rest. It is just hilarious that the, the UK has been so overrun by people marrying their cousins they felt the necessity to actually post an article saying that cousin marriage is a, is a, is a good thing in the end. Is there any other way, honestly, that the UK government could become any more cucked? Is that possible at this point? Is truly an amazing, amazing thing. I mean, and if you're asking, the answer of course is yes. UK Prime Minister Keir Starmer just yesterday suggested that illegal immigration in the UK was being driven by climate change, not by bad immigration. Policy by the world getting warmer. I think we need to look at every aspect of illegal migration upstream, looking at the causes, which of course are.

Benjamin Netanyahu (64:09)

Often poverty, climate change, persecution.

Ben Shapiro (64:12)

Look at the cause. Well, I mean, the other thing you could look at is why your borders are open in the first place. They're not going to do that. That might implicate their really terrible policy. Keir Starmer, by the way, is at the moment the most unpopular Prime Minister in UK history. In UK history. So well done, truly well done. To the Prime Minister of the uk, who entered office on the wings of eagles, based on the failure of the Conservative Party Today, according to YouGov, 72% of people in the UK believe that he is doing a bad job as the prime minister. Only 18% think that he is doing a good job. So his approval ratings in the UK are slightly below that of colon cancer. Alrighty. Coming up, we will get to Jimmy Kimmel, who's now returning to the airwaves, even for Nexstar, even for Sinclair. Plus Emma Watson going towards J.K. rowling. That's not going to go well for her. Remember, in order to watch, you have to be a member. If you're not a member, become a member. Use Coach Shapiro. Check out for two months free on all annual plans. Click that link in the description and join us.

Benjamin Netanyahu (65:29)

Sat.