The Ben Shapiro Show

Episode 2290 – “GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN: VP JD Vance Stops By To Discuss”
Date: October 1, 2025
Host: Ben Shapiro (A) | Guest: Vice President JD Vance (D)
Special Clips: Pete Hegseth, President Donald Trump

Overview:

This episode covers the dramatic onset of the 2025 government shutdown, the recalibration of U.S. military leadership and priorities under Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth and President Trump, and an in-depth interview with Vice President JD Vance about the shutdown’s origins, Democratic demands, and insider perspectives on negotiation strategy. Additionally, Ben breaks down current liberal reactions, political narratives around immigration and healthcare, Democratic Party woes, recent court rulings, Bad Bunny’s Super Bowl appearance, and the Israel/Hamas situation.

Key Discussion Points & Insights:

1. Military Leadership Shift: Speeches from Pete Hegseth and President Trump

[00:53–22:01]

• Event Recap:
  Trump and Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth spoke to the top U.S. military brass, signaling a sea change toward traditional military standards and away from “woke” identity politics.

• Hegseth’s Main Points:

  • Criticized “fat troops,” “fat generals,” and “men in dresses,” targeting lower standards and DEI in the military.

  • Announced an end to DEI offices, “identity months,” and “climate change worship.”

  • Restored the “highest male standards” for all combat positions.

  • Emphasized apolitical, merit-based military leadership over politically motivated appointments.

    “Frankly, it’s tiring to look out at combat formations, or really any formation and see fat troops. Likewise, it's completely unacceptable to see fat generals and admirals... It's a bad look. It is bad. And it's not who we are.”
    — Pete Hegseth [03:14]

    “No more identity months, DEI offices, dudes in dresses. No more climate change worship, no more division, distraction, or gender delusions. No more debris... We are done with that.”
    — Pete Hegseth [04:44]

    “Personnel is policy.”
    — Pete Hegseth [07:08, 09:51]

• Reaction & Commentary:

  • Ben argues these moves, though controversial on the left, are popular with troops and the majority of Americans.
  • Critiques from “The View” and liberal commentators are dismissed as disconnected from military realities.
  • Ben draws a contrast between left-wing “politicization” of institutions and what he views as conservative restoration to apolitical, mission-oriented standards.

• Trump’s Address:

  • President Trump assures the military he “has their back,” plans to strengthen and “reawaken the warrior spirit,” and will prioritize U.S. enemies "within and without."

  • Trump vows not to “be politically correct when it comes to defending American freedom.”

    “I am with you. I support you, and as President, I have your backs 100%. You’ll never see me even waver a little bit... Over the next few years, we're going to make our military stronger, tougher, faster, fiercer and more powerful than it has ever been before.”
    — President Donald Trump [17:50]

    “The purpose of the American military is not to protect anyone’s feelings. It’s to protect our Republic… We will not be politically correct when it comes to defending American freedom.”
    — President Donald Trump [18:28]

2. Government Shutdown: VP JD Vance Interview

[26:59–37:17]

A. Why Did the Government Shut Down?

• Vance’s Take:

  • Democrats’ core demands have shifted repeatedly, but currently focus on “taxpayer-funded healthcare for illegal aliens” and expensive ACA/Obamacare subsidies.

  • Claims Democrats are “using government workers as hostages” to force their policies.

  • Examples include funding for “parolee” immigrants and restoring emergency hospital coverage.

    “For a program that doesn't expire until next year, they want to shut the government down now... Their price is $1.5 trillion of new spending. Again, like we talked about, a lot of which goes to healthcare benefits for illegal aliens. Bad policy. It's actually bad fiscal management.”
    — Vice President JD Vance [36:10]

B. What Are the Administration’s Strategies?

• The administration is leveraging the shutdown to cut government waste, warning some furloughed workers may not return.

• Essential services (TSA, military, air traffic control) will be protected, while “fat” is cut where possible.

• Vance highlights that a minority of Democrats are “cracking,” and predicts brief duration for the shutdown.

  “If we have to cut some fat... The Democrats shouldn’t have shut down the government and put us in this position to begin with.”
  — JD Vance [32:38]

C. Political Calculus

• The shutdown is politically risky for Democrats—polls show 60% public disapproval.

• Vance says Schumer’s actions are driven by fear of a primary from the left (AOC), not policy.

  “A much more practical political answer... is because Chuck Schumer doesn't want a primary challenge from AOC. So what's happening is that the far left faction of one body of Congress is actually holding the entire government hostage…”
  — JD Vance [34:20]

D. Notable Timestamps:

• [27:03] — Vance identifies shifting Democratic demands.
• [29:47] — Explanation of how Democrats expand benefits for illegal immigrants.
• [32:38] — Vance outlines administration’s “cutting fat” strategy.
• [34:20] — Schumer/AOC “hostage” negotiation analogy.
• [36:10] — Vance on scale ($1.5 trillion) & nature of Democratic demands.

3. Demographic Politics, Media, and Cultural Commentary

[40:00–58:02]

• ACA Subsidies & Immigration:

  • Ben details the origins and costs of Obamacare subsidies, the policy terrain around coverage for “Dreamers” and lawfully present immigrants, and criticizes Democratic “millions-will-die” scare tactics.
  • Critiques Democratic virtue signaling as a losing position, evident in recent polling and party defections.
  • Covers Trump’s AI trolling videos targeting Schumer and Hakeem Jeffries, and the left’s “tantrum” response.

• Liberal Meltdowns:

  • Ben lampoons Democratic leaders (e.g., Hillary Clinton’s remarks about “white Christian men") urging Dems to “keep insult[ing] white Christian males” if they want to lose more elections.
  • Rants against Ilhan Omar, Zor Mamdani, Randy Weingarten for “radical rhetoric.”

• Judicial Resistance:

  • Ben sharply criticizes a federal judge’s lengthy, personal opinion attacking Trump, describing it as “a giant op ed for Slate entered as a judicial opinion.”

4. Biden & Pharma: “Trump Rx” Initiative

[58:47–60:49]

• Trump administration launches “Trump Rx,” a government-run drug-buying site in partnership with pharma giant Pfizer.
• Pfizer gets relief from tariffs by committing to domestic investment and reduced Medicare prices.
• Ben is skeptical about claims this will lower prices long-term, warning of possible R&D consequences.

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Military Standards:

  “Upholding and demanding high standards is not toxic. Enforcing high standards, not toxic leadership. Leading war fighters...in order to forge a cohesive, formidable, and lethal department of War is not toxic. It is our duty…”
  — Pete Hegseth [09:00]

• On Biden/Military:

  “America is respected again as a country. We were not respected with Biden. They looked at him falling downstairs every day.”
  — President Donald Trump [21:31]

• On Democrats’ Shutdown Tactics:

  “Chuck Schumer should deal with his own political problems in his own way, but he shouldn’t take the American economy hostage...”
  — JD Vance [34:20]

Other Significant Segments

A. Bad Bunny Super Bowl Controversy

[60:54–65:18]

• Ben pokes fun at the choice of Bad Bunny for the Super Bowl halftime show, highlighting his anti-Trump comments and hypocrisy for taking the gig:

  “He wanted to take the check in the fame, and so he's coming back to the United States to perform... He's a schmuck. Who cares?”
  — Ben Shapiro

B. Israel & Hamas Ceasefire Negotiations

[67:00–68:40]

• Trump has given Hamas “three or four days” to accept a Gaza peace deal; praises the international unity achieved against Hamas.

  “President Trump has done something incredible diplomatically by getting everybody in the world literally to unite against Hamas…”
  — Ben Shapiro

Conclusion

This episode features classic Shapiro rapid-fire commentary, a strong focus on conservative restoration in government and military, and in-depth coverage of the shutdown’s political trenches. The interview with VP JD Vance offers a window into administration strategy and negotiation, while the rest of the episode weaves in current culture war flashpoints and political tactics with Ben’s trademark sarcasm and polemic style.

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