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The Ben Shapiro Show

Episode 2387 – "Two Terror Attacks in One Day. What is Happening??"
Date: March 13, 2026
Host: Ben Shapiro (The Daily Wire)
Notable Guests/Voices: Zoran Mamdani, John Spencer

Episode Overview

In this urgent, fast-paced episode, Ben Shapiro addresses two Islamist terror attacks that occurred in the US on the same day, unpacking the incidents, the political and media response, the broader climate around radical Islam and Islamophobia, and the ongoing war with Iran. Shapiro discusses perceived failures in US immigration and deradicalization, criticizes left-leaning politicians and media for "excusing" terrorism, and hosts military expert John Spencer for a detailed assessment of the US-Iran conflict's latest developments and strategy. The episode also features Shapiro’s trademark blend of rapid-fire analysis, sardonic commentary, and polemical quotes.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Opening Riff: Radical Islam, Terror, and Media Spin

• Shapiro opens with satire (“Norm MacDonald was right. If you’re going to fight the war on terror, a good place to start would be this nation’s haunted houses.” [00:00]) and pivots quickly to serious critique of US discourse after Islamist attacks.
• Accuses Democratic politicians and media elites of focusing more on Islamophobia than on fighting radical Islam itself.
  • Quote: “The real problem with radical Islamic terrorists is the radical Islamic terrorism. So let’s stop them in their tracks. Let’s denaturalize and deport the terrorist supporters who are here, and let’s kill terrorists abroad.” [00:22]
• Responds to arguments about Muslim victimization and Islamophobia in America, particularly after 9/11 and other attacks.

2. Terror Attacks: Virginia and Michigan (Detailed Accounts)

Old Dominion, Virginia Attack

• Description:
  • ISIS-linked Muhammad Baylor Jalo storms a classroom, shoots an ROTC professor (Lt. Col. Brandon Shaw, who later dies), and is killed by cadets.
  • The FBI confirms the attacker's ties to terrorism, prior investigations, and in-depth history (including arrest, sentences, and premature release).
• Shapiro’s Anger at Systemic Lapses:
  • Outrage at Jalo’s early release and his "victim treatment" in left-leaning media.
  • Quote: “We released an actual honest to God ISIS affiliated terrorist into the population for good behavior… And now an American hero is dead because of it.” [03:01]
  • Frustration with those who claim “the real problem was Islamophobia, never radical Islam, just Islamophobia.” [05:12]

Michigan Synagogue Attack

• Description:
  • Ayman Khalazi (naturalized US citizen from Lebanon) tries to drive an explosive-laden car into a Jewish preschool; security responds with lethal force, preventing mass casualties.
  • Discovery of more weapons in the car; heavy local Jewish security presence.
• Law Enforcement Response:
  • Local officials had received warnings and responded with extra preparation.
  • Quote: “In addition, all Jewish facilities in the area are going to have a lot of extra presence around it until we figure this out.” [07:26]
• Ben’s Commentary:
  • Connects attacker’s background to broader claims about the radicalization of Dearborn, MI, and details city honors for controversial pro-Hezbollah figures.

3. Political and Social Response: Islamophobia vs. Radical Islam

• Shapiro sharply divides between “radical Islam” and Islamophobia.
• Argues that naming radical Islamic terrorism is suppressed or labeled bigotry by the political left and media.
• Mocks statements that frame Jewish targets as “Israeli”—and therefore supposedly legitimate targets of anti-Israel backlash.
  • Quote: “If you are a pro-Israel Jew in the United States, then it’s totally fine for a terrorist to drive a car laden with explosives into your synagogue.” [11:18]
• Highlights recent attacks, rising anti-Semitism, and claims (from municipal and congressional leaders) that Islamophobia is the main societal problem.
• Discusses statistics: Over 60 US cases linked to foreign terror organizations between 2021-2025, per the House Committee on Homeland Security.

4. Immigration and National Security Policy

• Criticizes US immigration and criminal justice for failing to spot, detain, or expel radicalized individuals.
• Decries policies/laws that block easy denaturalization of terrorist supporters.
  • Quote: “We ought to enforce the law to revoke the citizenship of people who associate with terrorist groups or who favor totalitarian forms of government.” [15:51]
• Argues for stricter vetting, zero tolerance for importation of radical ideology, and legal enforcement of Title 8 statutes against those advocating violence or totalitarian rule.

5. US-Iran War Update

Political, Strategic, and Military Situation

• Iran is attempting to use terror cells as leverage, threatening energy choke points (Strait of Hormuz) and escalating regional instability.
• Features remarks from political and military leaders:
  • Treasury Secretary Scott Bessen: Possible upcoming US/NATO naval escort for shipping.
• Shapiro’s Framing:
  • Central question: Why tolerate a regime that repeatedly threatens global trade? [28:18]
  • Cites WSJ op-ed: Lowering Iran risk would drop energy prices.

Inside Iran: Regime Stability and Protests

• Reports on the health (or possible incapacitation) of new Supreme Leader Moshtaba Khamenei; emphasizes regime fragility.
• Cites Israeli and US-backed efforts to incite popular uprisings in Iran; opposition leader Reza Pahlavi urges strikes and resistance.

Military Analyst John Spencer Interview [36:22–46:39]

State of US Objectives and Progress

• Spencer: US is ahead of schedule on goals to deny nuclear capability, destroy missile shields/navy.
  • Quote: “Soon the Iranian military will not have a navy, they will not have an air force…” [36:47]
  • Credits effectiveness of strikes (16,000 targets, 90 ships) despite media skepticism.
• Emphasizes importance and precedent for reopening the Strait of Hormuz (Operation Earnest Will, 1980s).
  • “The immense amount of destruction the US Navy…is doing right now to destroy anything that could deny traffic…That’s what’s happening right now.” [40:33]

End-Game, Regime Collapse, and Victory Conditions

• If US leaves Iran weakened and isolated, Spencer considers it a win—even if regime remains in power, lacking offensive or terror capabilities.
  • Quote: “If this operation stops tomorrow… the United States is safer, Israel is safer…the goals were set.” [45:35]

6. Western Political Will & Ideological Resilience

• Ben warns that Western self-doubt and political correctness renders America vulnerable—“A West that hates itself is a civilization that imports ideological cancer to its shores.” [24:13]
• Uses Christopher Hitchens’ classic quote on “Islamophobia” as a manufactured charge to silence critique, not bigotry per se.
  • Hitchens: “Resist it while you still can and before the right to complain is taken away from you, which will be the next thing…” [22:17]

7. Memorable Quotes & Moments with Timestamps

• "The real problem with radical Islamic terrorists is the radical Islamic terrorism. So let's stop them in their tracks. Let's denaturalize and deport the terrorist supporters who are here, and let's kill terrorists abroad." (Ben Shapiro, 00:22)
• "We released an actual honest to God ISIS affiliated terrorist into the population for good behavior? ... And now an American hero is dead because of it." (Ben Shapiro, 03:01)
• "It was a good guy with a gun that stopped the terrorist. That good guy with a gun was a trained security force that has become necessary at nearly every Jewish institution in America thanks to the rise of anti-Semitism on all sides." (Ben Shapiro, 06:48)
• "Calling radical Islam out for being a cult doesn't make you an Islamophobe.… Radical Islam is not compatible with the Constitution and has no place in America." (Sen. Tom Tuberville, quoted by Shapiro, 21:06)
• "Soon the Iranian military will not have a navy, they will not have an air force...I think they're ahead of schedule, measurably achieving the objectives." (John Spencer, 36:47)
• "If this operation stops tomorrow… the United States is safer, US Bases in the region are safer, Israel is safer because the goals were set. Deny that nuclear program, destroy that ballistic missile shield …" (John Spencer, 45:35)

Notable Segments & Timestamps

• Opening Attack on Radical Islam / Islamophobia Discourse: [00:00–02:55]
• Virginia & Michigan Terror Attack Narratives: [03:25–08:15]
• Dearborn, MI & Local Radicalization: [07:39–10:35]
• Media Coverage & Excuse-Making: [10:35–11:44]
• Recent History of Islamist Terror in US: [13:13–15:05]
• Immigration Policy and Legal Solutions: [15:05–16:38]
• War in Iran – Political/Military Update: [18:32–27:56]
• Interview: John Spencer on War Progress and Objectives: [36:22–46:39]

Tone & Style

• Fast-paced, polemical, sarcastic.
• Aggressively skeptical of mainstream/left-leaning narratives.
• Mix of policy detail, sharp quotes, cultural references, and biting one-liners.
• Frequent rhetorical “wait for it” and “I know you’re shocked” tics.

Utility for Non-Listeners

This episode is a full-bore Shapiro blitz: listeners will get a strongly conservative perspective on national security, Islamist terror, and US policy—prioritizing radical Islam as a dominant security threat and lambasting perceived leftist appeasement or denial. It’s rich in current events, specific cases, critical policy suggestions, and runs parallel analyses in politics, culture, and military strategy. The Spencer interview (36:22–46:39) offers credible military insight and serves as a counterpoint to the polemical opening segments.

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