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Ben Shapiro
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I mean, like, other than him telling an ex girlfriend that allegedly he wanted to rape a home invader, but not in a gay way, were there any red flags at all? Any red flags? Here's the thing. This isn't really a story about one weird dude in Maine. It's a story about a party so high on their own socialist supply they think they can pour some Mamdani magic into any Senate race and just win. We'll explore all of it and why this is a warning for Republicans as well. Plus, we're destroying Iranian bridges. Candace Owens says that if you're wearing a maroon shirt today, you probably killed Charlie Kirk and more. This is the Ben Shapiro Show. So here is the lesson, and it cuts both ways. In 2022, a chunk of the Republican Party convinced itself of something that was not true, that all you had to do to win was to imitate Donald Trump, that that Trump wasn't something unique, that he wasn't his own figure. You could just kind of take some Trump adjacent magic and pour it into a bunch of weird bottles and then win a bunch of Senate seats. So Republicans decided to endorse and then run Herschel Walker, a man who it turns out was genetically related to half the state of Georgia. In Georgia, and they lost that Senate seat. And they also ran Doug Mastriano. Kind of strange dude. Far too extreme for Pennsylvanians in Pennsylvania. And they lost that seat and they lost another seat. I nominating Dr. Oz is fine, but he was nominated over Dave McCormick, who ended up actually becoming a senator. Republicans ran Carrie Lake for Arizona governor that same year, despite her being, you know, a conspiracy theorist with some wild, wild mannerisms. And they lost that seat, too. They ran Blake Masters, a tech bro who ran weird commercials with drones in Arizona, and they lost that seat as well. They ran Tom Baldock, a kind of nutty figure in New Hampshire. They lost that seat, too. Overall, Republicans lost during that election cycle at least four Senate seats and at least one gubernatorial seat. They probably should have won because Republicans got high on the Trump supply. The lesson is that there is only one Donald Trump. He cannot be copied. He cannot be cloned, he cannot be emulated. The magic isn't some sort of just brand, and it's not a platform. It is the candidate, because candidate quality matters. Now, Democrats don't seem to have learned that lesson at all. They watched Zoram Hamdani win in New York, a city that has 11 Democrats for every 10 voters, and they drew precisely the wrong conclusion. They decided that the Democratic socialist pixie ducks was actually the transferable part. You just take that stuff and pour it into a bunch of weird bottles the same way that Republicans did back in 2022. And now look at who they are running. A guy in Maine with multiple rape allegations and a swastika problem. And a guy in Michigan who is so warm to terrorism, he wouldn't celebrate the death of Ayatollah Khamenei because too many of his supporters liked Ayatollah Khamenei. Or a dude in Texas, in Texas who hates traditional Christians in Texas. That's some wild overconfidence, and it's curdling into stupidity again. The exact same disease that cost Republicans The Senate in 2022 could, I suppose we can hope, cost Democrats the Senate in 2026. And that's the warning forever and always. When you get high on your own supply, when your ideological silo tells you you can't lose and that candidate quality doesn't matter, you nominate people who then go on to lose. Republicans learned it the hard way in 2022, and the Democrats seem like they're about to learn it the hard way in 2026. All of which brings us to Graham Platner. He's suspending his Maine Senate campaign after a sexual assault claim. Now, as I say, the actual, real reason that Democrats decided to abandon Platner is because he was losing in the polls. It turns out that the people of Maine were not desperate for a fake oyster farmer who is a little rapey allegedly, and also had the Nazi tattoo. And those were like, his benefits. Those were like, the good things about him. Well, yesterday he said he intends to exit the race after a woman accused him of sexually assaulting her in 2021, causing an insurmountable rupture with his closest allies. Platner's fall, according to CNBC, is a seismic shift in the 2026 midterm elections as Democrats try to wrest control of Congress from Republicans and weaken President Trump's grip on power. Susan Collins just sitting over there in the corner, laughing and laughing and laughing. Members of the main Democratic Party voted on Wednesday night to hold a nominating convention to select a replacement for Graham Platner. And apparently, according to state law, the party can replace him on the ballot by July 27th. So, again, I think what happened here is he started to lose in the polls and suddenly all these scandals were taken seriously by Democrats just to get rid of him. I mean, think of Joe Biden falling apart during the election cycle and Democrats just supplanting Joe Biden with Kamala Harris. Democrats do this actually, not all that rarely. So Graham Platner decided that he was going to cut a video from the woods of Mania in which he painted himself as the victim. It turns out that Graham Platner, sad Fozzie Bear over here, was the victim all along. He was the victim all along, Graham Platner. Because when you're a Democratic socialist, you're always the victim. Always and forever, no matter what. You are the victim. I mean, sure, you're allegedly a little rapey, but you're the victim. Here's Graham Platner's dropping out video.
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Graham Platner
This is all false. The things that have been claimed did not happen, it's not real. Has placed an immense amount of weight on me as I think about what needs to happen Now. Amy and I are regular people. We were not looking for this experience. We were not looking to get into politics. We had no desire to run for office. I just want you to think about, like, what you would do as a regular person in a position where a much larger world, large forces were working against you personally to accuse you of the worst thing that a person could do. And it was not remotely true.
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Ben Shapiro
He's the victim. Imagine if it happened to you, because if you ran for office, surely there would be bevies of women emerging to explain that you raped them. I don't know. I don't know. Listen, running for office is tough, for sure. And it is true that in today's social media, Driven landscape. Everything about you will come to the fore. Every single thing, which is something you have to think about when you decide to run for office. The way typically, unfortunately, that people respond to that is they don't run if they have any sense of shame, and they only run if they are shameless. But here's the thing. Graham Platner is totally shameless. I mean, clearly, this is a dude who would get drunk in bars, take off his shirt, and show off his Nazi tattoo. So, like, you're not talking about somebody who is driven by any sense of internal guilt or shame over his sins. Clearly. Clearly. In other words, office right now does tend to draw people who are somewhat sociopathic because most people don't want to go through this. But also, most people, if they did go through this, the stuff uncovered about them might not be a Nazi Tattoo and Rapey McRae lot stories. I'm sure that if I ran for office, the press would uncover something about me. I mean, they might uncover the fact that, you know, I'm really, really bad about locking the doors at night in my. In my house, my wife locks all the doors and we have 24 hours security. But I'm not really great about it. Like, they might uncover the fact that at certain times, I. I may have been skeptical of particular proposals in our ad copy. Like, we all have our flaws. We all have things about us that if they came out, they would be embarrassing and annoying and all of the rest. I just don't think those things are like Nazi tattoos and rape allegations. In fact, I feel like most of the people I know, in fact, pretty much everybody I know, would not have an allegation about rape or a Nazi tattoo. So I don't think that he's like, the biggest victim. Did he not know that? Was he shocked to discover one day he woke up, he looked in the. In the mirror in the morning and he's like, oh, my God, I have a Nazi tattoo.
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Candace Owens
Oh, no.
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Ben Shapiro
What are they? Like, it's. It was a giant Nazi tattoo on your body, my dude. And was he shocked to wake up one morning and discover that there were many allegations about him being kind of rapey considering that he was online on kind of rapey websites. I'm sorry, like, he's not the victim. You volunteered in for this and you knew all of this was true. You knew that there was a bunch of crap out there about you. But again, always and forever, he's the victim forever. Now, again, I'm just going to point out here that if he actually thinks this is false. He has a moral obligation to stay in the race and fight it. That is the other half of this. If somebody makes a false rape allegation about you, you have a moral obligation to fight false rape allegations and also not to destroy your candidacy on the shoals of that thing. But nobody believes that all of that, all of these, the weight of all of these allegations is, is just nonsense. No one believes that. Now listen, you probably don't have an online search history as bad as Graham Platner is. Because probably no one has an online search history as bad as Graham Plat Latinners. I mean my dude. But. But also what you search online really is kind of your business. Imagine every Google search you've made over the last year automatically popping up on the jumbotron at your kids soccer game. Not just the embarrassing ones like all of them. Restaurant searches, travel plans, everything. Well that sounds silly, but the Internet provider actually has all that information. Even if you're using so called incognito mode in many countries they're required to keep logs of your activity. Here in the United States they can even sell that information. Which is why I use ExpressVPN. It encrypts my Internet traffic before it ever reaches my Internet provider. So they can't see, record, share or sell my browsing history because they never had it in the first place. The other thing I like is how simple it is. One tap on my phone, laptop, desktop or tablet and I'm now protected. So if you'd like to join me in fighting for the rights of privacy, now would be the best time to do it in human history because ExpressVPN is now available at just 3.49amonth. If you use my special link, you can get four extra months of service@expressvpn.com Ben that's E x p r e s vpn.com Men for four extra months of service. And so Platner, after explaining that he was innocent, he explained why he was suspending the campaign.
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Graham Platner
We are suspending campaign operations. This is incredibly difficult because I know that some will think it's an admission of guilt and it most certainly is not. We're not doing it because of the allegations. We're doing it because of the structures that are being taken away from us by those in power.
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Ben Shapiro
Oh, it's the powerful systems again. Oh yeah, like apac. And it turns out we should all be sat along with him because all he wanted, all he wanted in life was a fair system. That's all he wanted. All he wanted was no genocide and health care. And by the way, you should absolutely take lessons on genocide from a dude who has a tattoo of the largest genocidal group in human history. Anyway, here's Graham Platner.
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Graham Platner
All we were asking for was health care, was to end a genocide, to use our taxpayer dollars at home to uplift our communities instead of waging war overseas. We were asking for a fair system. We were asking for an end to the corruption, the end to the money in politics. We were asking for real democracy. And we did it the right way and we won.
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Ben Shapiro
I like when we define winning democratic,
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Graham Platner
Democratic establishment
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Ben Shapiro
isn't the real victory the friends they made along the way. I mean, if you're sensing a little bit of schadenfreude from me, that's because it's a lot of schadenfreude from me. Guys. Don't nominate people with Nazi tattoos again. This is like a low bar. This is a really low bar. Just a really low bar. Hilariously, there's a group of independent activists, campaign advisors, like Morris Katz, the Silver Spoon Socialist advisor, Mayor Zoramdani in New York, and they say that they paid a firm to vet Platner. Well, you might want to get your money back, guys.
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Interviewer 1
How did you go about vetting him?
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Ben Shapiro
And why did you.
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Interviewer 2
We paid.
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Ben Shapiro
Yeah, we paid a. We paid a nice firm a whole
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Interviewer 2
chunk of money and got some stuff back. Some of what you've seen on the
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Ben Shapiro
news we got back. Other stuff we didn't.
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Interviewer 1
Did the vetting process turn up the tattoo that became so controversial?
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Ryan Grimm
No,
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Ben Shapiro
that's it. Daniel Moroff, one of the independent activists, I'm curious what stuff came back. Honestly, like, I'm a little curious. He says some of the stuff you've seen on the news came back, some did not. Which part of it was acceptable to you? Which part of it was it? Was it the, like, kick account? Like the grooming account? Was it the. Was it the comments about jacking it in the Porta Potty? Like, which part came back? Because all that was publicly available, by the way, which part came back? That's the part that's confusing. The hard left, by the way, continues to try to blame everybody but Graham Platner. Ryan Grimm, who's the head of a pretty terrible site called Drop Site, he was out there on Breaking Points with Crystal and Sager talking about how really the real victim, of course, is Platner in all of this.
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Ryan Grimm
Jenny Rascott had been, quote, texting Platner about needing her glute massaged. That detail didn't make our story. Right. Glute massage.
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Debbie Dingell
Mm.
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Ryan Grimm
So within about a half an hour of getting this glute massage text, Platner is in the house. Now, she says.
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Ben Shapiro
She says she followed up.
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Ryan Grimm
No, no, no, don't come. Don't come.
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Ben Shapiro
And don't come.
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Ryan Grimm
Because he texted back, so he's wasted. Clearly, he gets this message, I need, you know, I need my glute massaged. Right. He comes over and he's text back, I'm coming over. And she said. She's like, wait, wait, don't come over. She says, don't come over. Don't come over. This is Maine. He's not taking the subway. Like, so he's driving. She's drunk driving. Drunken.
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Abdul El-Sayed
Drunk driving.
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Ryan Grimm
Drunkenly driving over there. Yes. Comes into the house, and then it gives. And then he's. She says he's grabbing her on the couch. Where is she?
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Ben Shapiro
She's saying no, Right?
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Ryan Grimm
Where's he grabbing her? Like, is he, like, immediately starting, like, the glute massage or whatever?
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Candace Owens
Right.
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Ryan Grimm
Anyway.
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Ben Shapiro
Oh, well. And then. Thank you for that, for that amazing insight there, Ryan Grimm. Excellent, excellent job. It's hilarious how once it was acceptable to point out that he's a piece of crap, suddenly the media start paying attention to the fact that Graham Platner is a piece of crap. So Axios yesterday has a piece about how Platner wasn't even an oyster farmer. Oh, maybe the Washington Free Beacon reported that legitimately a month ago. Maybe we talked about it on the show. But now Axios is saying, starting with their launch video last August, Platner and his team billed him as an oyster farmer. He titled most of the media, including Axios, at times repeated without scrutiny. But as early as August, he told ideologically friendly outlets he makes little money from selling oysters, and it's not how he makes a living. Platner and his team pitched him as a working class Mainer who bought his house with veterans benefits. But in reality, his father loaned him 200 grand for the home. Platner said last fall he's never been close to money and power. He briefly attended the elite prep school Hotchkiss in Connecticut before attending a private school in Maine. Now the Platner campaign is trying to pull potential replacements. They're trying to take someone else and shove that person into the slot. That would include former Maine State Senate President Troy Jackson and Secretary of State Shana Bellows. Jackson is testing the best they have one poll showing Jackson leading Collins. Janet Mills would be trailing Collins. By a fair bit. Now, again, it'll be interesting to see where this race goes. Maybe it's early enough that the Democrats are able to recover, but Susan Collins is a political survivor par excellence. And it doesn't help your party when it turns out that you were totally fine for months running a person who appears to be a sexually perverse sociopath. It turns out that that may not have been a good look. But here's the thing. The entire Democratic Party is swiveling into DSA land really, really, really quickly. And DSA land is filled with crazy people. See, political ideology very often aligns with levels of crazy. It's why when you walk into a Libertarian Party convention, it looks like the center ring at a three ring circus. It's filled with clowns and hirsute ladies and bizarro world elephants. And like the Libertarian, like certain ideologies cross over with certain types of humans. That obviously is true. And so if you welcome the dsa, which is a bunch of revolutionary psychopaths, into your party, well, it turns out that you may end up with some revolutionary psychopaths as candidates. Coming up, Democrats want to have it both ways, but they keep hiring bad candidates. Like, it's not just Graham Plat over in Maine. They're hiring bad candidates everywhere. But you can't afford to hire bad candidates. You can't. This is why you need Zip recruiters. See, here's the thing. You don't have time for this. You don't. You don't have time to wade through resume after resume after resume in the least efficient fashion possible. You need ZipRecruiter. ZipRecruiter has a new feature lets you see the most interested qualified candidates first. So you save time by meeting the right people faster. Right now you can try it for free@ziprecruiter.com Dailywire ZipRecruiter's powerful matching technology finds those qualified candidates quickly. Candidates can tell you in their own words why they're interested in your job. No wonder ZipRecruiter is the number one rated hiring site based on G2. Save time, meet great candidates sooner with Zip Recruiter 4 out of 5 employers who post on ZipRecruiter get a quality candidate within the very first day. Try it for free at ZipRecruiter.com Daily Wire that's ZipRecruiter.com Daily wire meet your match on ZipRecruiter. Go check them out for free at ZipRecruiter.Com Daily Wire so the Democrats are trying to have it Both ways. They want the jet fuel of DSA energy, but also they want to claim that the DSA is not actually painting them into a corner. The Democratic Socialists of America, we're growing by leaps and bounds. Representative Debbie Dingell of Michigan, she says, no, no, no, the DSA is not painting us into a corner. Sure.
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Debbie Dingell
Well, first of all, I don't think that the DSA is painting us into corners. I think that we're representative government. And you think they're part of the big tent.
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Ben Shapiro
Do you think that they fit within the Democratic Party?
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Debbie Dingell
You know what I take people back to? I think everybody in this country, Republican and Democrats, think that Social Security is very critical for many people.
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Jim Himes
Sure.
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Debbie Dingell
My father was one of the authors of Social Security and was called a communist. Now, I don't agree with some of the things I've heard the candidates say in New York. I don't agree with everything either Haley or Abdul have said. They're both colleagues, they're both friends, and I'm neutral in this race.
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Ben Shapiro
She's neutral with regard to the DSA and the psychotics. Well, they're going to eat your lunch. They're going to eat your lunch. It's funny to watch sort of the old school Democrats try to convince themselves that like, sort of like Quint in Jaws, they are halfway down the shark and they are, and they're maintaining that their legs have not been eaten. At this point, Representative Jim Himes, another Democrat, he says, you know, don't worry so much about this. Zormadani isn't going to get his government owned grocery stores or anything like that.
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Jim Himes
Zoran Mandani, right? You think Zoran Mandani is really going to get municipally owned grocery stores? No, he's not. But when he talks about that, people say, he's getting me, he's getting me. And that's enough to get. By the way, when Donald Trump says, I'm beating up on Walmart over beef prices, that's insane. This table agrees that that's insane and it's not going to stop inflation. But America looks at that and says, we had Joe Biden talking about transitory inflation and Trump's at least trying. He's calling the Walmart guy up and says, I'm sticking the DOJ on you. If you don't, they don't lower prices. America sees that and says, hey, I'll take that guy.
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Ben Shapiro
Okay? So again, they keep claiming DSA is not eating them. DSA is eating them. And that means that they are taking this sort of DSA ideology and pouring it into a bunch of pretty terrible candidates. Because, again, that DSA ideology tends to draw candidates who have some problems. That includes, for example, running a pro terrorism person named Abdul El Sayed in Michigan, who also happens to be a habitual liar. So he was on with Mehdi Hassan, another person who never should have been granted American citizenship. And Mehdi Hasan questioned him about the fact that Syed has been going around saying that he's a doctor and he's not actually a doctor. And it got a little awkward.
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Interviewer 2
You got attacked by your rivals for calling yourself a physician, not just a doctor, even though you don't have a valid state medical license in New York or Michigan, which apparently is what you need legally to call yourself a physician. Do you wish you just stuck to calling yourself a doctor, which you are, to avoid all of this controversy and attacks on your physician status?
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Candace Owens
You know, at the end of the
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Abdul El-Sayed
day, it's not about whether or not I'm a physician or a doctor. The question is, can you see a doctor? It's not about my education. It's about whether or not your kid gets a good education. So I'm just not spending.
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Ben Shapiro
But people, people would say it's also
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Interviewer 2
about, did you tell the truth?
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Abdul El-Sayed
Well, I would say that I was the health director for the city of Detroit, and I've done more to provide more people healthcare or eliminate their medical debt than most doctors have done in their practice career. So I'm proud of the work that I did. I took my medical education in a different direction, and I did graduate from a school that's literally called Columbia College of Physicians and Surgeons. So, you know, you can go have that argument with Columbia University if you'd like.
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Ben Shapiro
You know, I too am a doctor. I'm a Juris Doctor, meaning I'm a lawyer. But again, lying is of no consequence. Also, Abdul said, claiming that he delayed his financial disclosures for reasons that make no sense.
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Interviewer 2
Haley Stevens has also attacked you and Mike Rogers for being millionaires, who she says conveniently did not file their 2026 personal financial disclosures. You sought an extension through August 13, I believe, which is after the primary. Was this to avoid transparency with your voters?
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Jim Himes
Why?
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Interviewer 2
Why not release them before the election?
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Abdul El-Sayed
No. Taxes get complicated. My wife and her family own property abroad. And so getting all those tax forms is a thing. And this is, by the way, the same extension that she said.
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Interviewer 2
You're a millionaire and you're hiding that?
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Abdul El-Sayed
Well, if you take my assets and my wife's assets together, then I guess they add up. To something like that. But my career has never been about trying to maximize on money. Otherwise I would have just gone and been a surgeon.
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Ben Shapiro
Oh, weird that he delayed his financial disclosures to avoid all. By the way, he's now claiming he's not a democratic socialist. Uh huh. He just agrees with everything they say. But he's not one of them. Because if people realize in Michigan that he is one of them, then he might lose. Remember, the last Senate race in Michigan was extremely, extremely close. Mike Rogers, the Republican, only lost by a fraction of a percentage point in that race.
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Interviewer 2
Do you define yourself as a socialist, a democratic socialist?
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Abdul El-Sayed
I don't. And it's largely because I'm a person of faith. And then everyone else has to bring empirics. I look for solutions that are purpose fit to problems. I wrote the book on Medicare for all because I wanted to make sure that this was the approach that we could take to guaranteeing everybody health care in America. And when it comes to our economy, I'm somebody who read about capitalism and anybody who knows about capitalism knows that the biggest danger to capitalism was never government regulation. It was always monopoly and oligopoly. And you think about the options you have in any given market that you have to be a part of, whether it's buying meat at the grocery grocery store or it's deciding to go visit grandma in another state. You got like one or two options, and those options can work via algorithms to just start raising rates on you. It feels like you're constantly being monetized. That's not what capitalism was supposed to be about.
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Ben Shapiro
So he's explaining why he is a democratic socialist by saying he's not a democratic socialist. This is who they're running in Michigan. Oh, they also decided the Democratic Socialist Party of America. Which is. Which is what the Democratic Party now is. They have also decided it would be a great idea to run a dude who hates Christians in Texas. This is a flashback of James Talarico some years ago talking about children being trans. Democrats decided that they needed anti Christian Howdy Doody over here as their candidate. In Texas,
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Interviewer 1
you saw it in the anti LGBTQ legislation, including the bill that would have denied gender affirming health care to trans children. And then of course, famously, infamously, we saw it last session with the most extreme abortion ban in the country. All these ideologies stem from this Christofascism movement, which essentially, like I said, is just using faith to exercise raw political, social and economic power.
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Ben Shapiro
Right, so you want the guy who talked about Christo Fascism. Running for Senate in Texas. Again, it's a move. Democrats, if you lose the Senate seats in Maine, in Michigan, in Texas, you ain't winning back the Senate. I mean, if you lose in Maine alone, you're not winning back the Senate. And this is your own fault you decided to do this. Because here's the thing. There are some normie Democrats who are running in some of these states. And by normie, I mean very left wing Democrats running in states where they are very likely to win. Roy Cooper in North Carolina is very likely to win that Senate seat that is currently held by Thom Tillis over in North Carolina and flip a seat. It is quite possible that in Ohio, Sherrod Brown, who is a longtime senator and is very left wing but is not kind of a total psychotic, that he may win in Ohio over John Husted. Again, that's an uphill battle for him. But the Democratic Party has no systematic immunity at all to the insane in their party. And this is going to bleed over into 2028. So take a look at the Kalshee markets right now on 2028 for the Democratic nomination. Kalshee is one of our sponsors. And what you see is Gavin Newsom nose diving, right? He was up near 40% in terms of how many people thought he was going to end up as the nominee just back in September, October, and now he's all the way back down at 20%. Gaining quickly are Alexander Ocasio Cortez, who's up to 17%, and John Ossoff in Georgia, who's at 15%. Now, Ossoff is also going to peak too early. He's going to go away, too. The idea that they're going to nominate a Jewish Democrat, no, that's not happening because the party is not going to allow it. They will not allow. Is worth noting at this point that according to polling From Gallup, roughly 2/3 of Democrats sympathize more with Palestinians than Israelis. Okay, that is not just they don't like Benjamin Netanyahu. That is they actually sympathize with Palestinians, meaning a group of people governed by terrorist groups more than the Israelis. Sympathy for Israel is down to 17% among Democrats. You think they're going to nominate Jon Ossoff or Rahm Emanuel? And I got to say that as a religious Jew, I find it amusing and annoying at the same time to watch some of these would be Jewish Democratic candidates try desperately to beg, borrow and steal their way back into the Democratic Party by suggesting that while they are kind of pro Israel, actually the Real problem is Bibi Netanyahu. The real problem is the idf. The real problem is that there's no two state solution. Guys, you trying your warmed over Clintonism from 1998. It is not going to work. It's not going to work, number one, because it's not realistic. There is no two state solution in Israel. It is not happening. The reason it's not happening is because you have a terrorist group, Hamas, that governs one area and you have another terrorist group, the Palestinian Authority, that governs another area. So it's not happening. Just on a realistic level. It is not going to happen. But put all of that aside. If Rahm Emanuel, for example, who went over to Tel Aviv just to lecture the Israelis who have now been undergoing three years of continuous warfare, he went to lecture them on how bad and terrible they are and if they were just a little nicer, then the democrats would like them more. If he thinks that that is going to buy him any points at all inside the Democratic base, he's out of his mind. Maybe it makes some of his friends feel better in la, but it makes no one feel better in the root Democratic Party who openly now sympathize with the Red Green alliance, sort of communist Islamist alliance. Here's Rahm Emanuel trying to buy his way back into the good graces by pretending that it's all about Benjamin Netanyahu rather than for Democrats. The existence of the State of Israel at this point, which it increasingly is,
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Rahm Emanuel
the Prime Minister and his government have led Israel into a dead end. For too long, American policy towards Israel operated under the assumption that the best thing Washington to do for Jerusalem is to blindly to silently stand behind your government without conditions, without demands, without consequences. Even when we disagreed. That has been our mistake.
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Ben Shapiro
This is just nonsense and it's been
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Rahm Emanuel
not a favor to you. Unconditional support has produced a Prime minister who has presumed that his strategic interest would incur the political. Would incur no political costs if he ignored America's concerns about settlements and sparked a regional war.
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Ben Shapiro
He believes that being Sparta sparked a regional war. It was Israel that sparked a regional war, not Hamas's invasion.
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Rahm Emanuel
Even despite the reality that his own idol, Winston Churchill, once argued that weapons are not sufficient by themselves, we must add to them the power of ideas. Your government has been complicit.
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Ben Shapiro
I can't listen to this schmuck anymore. I mean, the Rahm Emanuel playing this dumb game put aside the like. On a factual level, he's just wrong and stupid. And the reality is that it wouldn't matter if it were Gotti Eisenhat leading the Israeli government. Right now, Gotti Eisenhott is campaigning against Netanyahu. He's his chief rival. He's campaigning against Netanyahu from his right. He is saying that Netanyahu needs to be doing more in Lebanon and more in Iran. But put aside the actual facts of the situation. You know, Rahm Emanuel suggesting that there's been unconditional support for Israel. That's weird because it turns out that, for example, the memorandum of understanding that the Trump administration signed essentially tried to box in Israel's freedom of action in both Lebanon and Iran. It turns out that Joe Biden was trying to slow walk weapons to Israel in the middle of an existential war and telling Israel not to invade Rafah. So it's not true. But put all that aside. Understand the political dynamic that Emmanuel is trying to play here and it's not going to work. It's not going to work for John Ossoff, it's not going to work for Josh Shapiro, and it's not going to work for Emmanuel. The Jewish Democrats who want to run for president think that it's going to be sufficient for them to say that they're quasi pro Israel. They just don't like Bibi Netanyahu. Good luck with that. Good luck with that. In a Democratic primary. It ain't going to happen because again, your party is being eaten from the inside out. Now, if the lesson here for Democrats is don't be crazy, then the lesson should be the same for Republicans. Don't be crazy. Which brings us to the preliminary hearing on Tyler Robinson's alleged murder of Charlie Kirk that's happening in Utah this week. Now, again, the evidence that is emerging in the, in the Tyler Robinson preliminary hearing is stuff that because of contemporaneous media reporting we already knew existed. Like, for example, Tyler Robinson turning himself in at the behest of his parents. See, here's the thing. Typically when a murder suspect turns himself in to the cops and confesses to the thing, typically that is good evidence that he did the thing. Typically. Here is some of the footage from, from the turning himself in. You can see, this is the security footage. You can see him from. He walks in, that is obviously Tyler Robinson. And you see him in the, in the police station preparing to turn himself in for the murder of Charlie Kirk. And now he is wearing a maroon shirt. One Candace Owens, she, she is claiming that may not be Tyler Robinson. Quote, as I demonstrated on my show, there were many young men that all woke up and decided to dress in maroon shirts and light shorts on the day of Charlie's assassination. The footage can be any one of these young men and in my opinion, is likely multiple of them. If Tyler Robinson's defense would like to contact me, I'd be happy to supply them the folder of the maroon boys that I began archiving when I noticed the bizarre fashion trend. I have thus far ID'd two of them, but we'll focus on IDing the rest of them when I am back on air. I have maintained that the feds had multiple decoy maroon boys on the ground that day. Without a clear image, they certainly cannot declare it as Tyler Robinson. Which is why all the Zionist influencers are. The Yudin are hoping they can simply hypnotize the public into trusting blurry images and videos. We're using our hypnotic powers to show you evidence.
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Jim Himes
Ooh.
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Ben Shapiro
For such an open and shut case, they have thus far provided zero evidence of anything outside of a criminal government conspiracy, the likes of which hasn't been seen since the JFK assassination. So she is now offering to help acquit work to acquit the murderer of Charlie Kirk. But don't worry, that's because she was Charlie's best friend and cares so deeply. Clearly. She also put out a statement saying, quote this to Blake Neff. Blake, of course, is one of the higher ups at cpusa. No, Blake Neff. You watch every single episode of my show and therefore know exactly what my stance is. So don't play obtuse, Blakey. I do not believe the footage of him turning himself in is a body double. I believe the footage on and around campus of people in similar maroon shirts are all various decoys, and that is the reason that the footage is blurry. My podcast is too big for you to lie about my position. It's the maroon shirt brigade, guys. It's like the. The entire football team of the Arizona Cardinals is responsible for this. It was the USC marching band. I have always maintained that Tyler Robinson agreed to go into the police station despite maintaining his innocence because the former undercover officer, Mike Mitchell, was told him he had no choice and would otherwise risk SWAT breaking into his home to arrest him, potentially putting his and his family's lives at risk. I've never changed my position on this, and thus far, there has been zero evidence presented which has disproven me. As an example, here is just one shot of three different young solo men on campus that day wearing maroon. Ooh. Ooh. Wow. Mean. Chilling in crimson maroon. That. That. That's. That's that's what it's all. It's about, the color coding. Because that, that's, that's what you would do if you're going to commit a murder. You just go get a bunch of people as decoys to retarded. Oh my gosh. I said yesterday on on X that Candace Owens is an IQ test and many people are failing. She says we also found young men bizarrely holding maroon shirts as though they were exchanging T shirts. I believe we will eventually learn that some of these young men are part of a military unit because military units utilize color of the day to organize an undercover operations that require them to wear plain clothes and pass off as citizens. Man, she is so on top of it. My goodness. My goodness. Imagine if she were a doctor. I mean, if she dedicated this kind of brainpower to curing cancer. I mean, my. Like just her blazingly astonishing intellectual.
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Interviewer 2
Who. Who.
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Ben Shapiro
I mean it, it's. It just leaps off the screen at you, this blazing intelligence, an IQ level that just exceeds Einstein by leaps and bounds. Clearly when she turns that laser like focus on a subject like Charlie Kirk's murder, she'll indubitably come up with a Hercule Poirot style solution to this. I mean, like, how could we doubt her? How could we. Well, in the words of Robert Downey Jr. In Tropic Thunder, never go full retard. And here's the thing. A lot of people seem to be going full retard. Not just by taking whatever cyber cyanide Candace is selling over an online Jonestown over there, by believing. Because again, this all ties into a bigger thing. These broader conspiracy theories peddled by all of Candace's friends. Because again, let's just be real about this. Tucker Carlson says exactly the same kind of crap. He just doesn't do the maroon T shirt stuff. He said, well, you know, we all know that Charlie was probably not killed for trans stuff. He was killed over Israel. You've got Megyn Kelly over there saying, I would never, I would never F you. You want me to condemn Candace Owens saying this stuff? F you? Never. No way. But I love Erica.
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Rahm Emanuel
Oh, we love.
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Ben Shapiro
Oh, we love Erica. We can all see. We have eyeballs. Those eyeballs are connected to our brain. So we can see what's happening, guys. Okay, but the thing is that these sort of broader conspiracy theories are all tied together. It's all tied into a broader theory that your life is controlled by evil and mysterious systems. That you are not in control of your life. And that your spirit guide through this mysterious and chaotic universe is once again the platonic intellect of Candace Owens. She will provide you the architecture of life. Candace Owens will guide you through all of the vicissitudes of existence. Candace Owens, she. She and her friends, she and Tucker, she and Mick, all of them, they have great insight into how the universe works. And if you just give them $9.99 a month, then they will help you to navigate all of the rocks and shoals that undergird the rivers of your life. Folks, if you decide to buy into this, I'm sorry. You're the mark. You're the sucker. Don't drink the kool aid. Cause it makes you dumb. It makes you stupid. Alrighty. So Meanwhile, the war in Iran continues. Because it turns out that the war in Iran never stopped for Iran. Yesterday it was announced that the President had ditched his new Air Force One. So some of us thought, hey, you know, maybe, maybe, maybe we should not have taken a jet from Qatar because Qatar is just an Iranian ally and reality exists. And no matter how much we wish reality away, reality always wins. This is one of the themes of my show. Reality always wins, Always undefeated Reality. You can try to fight reality. Reality will win. You can try to buck reality. Reality will win. You can try to misinterpret it away. Reality will always reassert itself because reality exists. Qatar is an Iranian cutout. And if you accept a $400 million jet from Qatar, that probably isn't going to work out amazing. Well, on Wednesday, the President announced that he would not fly out of Turkey aboard his luxurious new Air Force One constructed by Qatar. Why? Well, we don't know. Instead, he departed the annual NATO summit using the older model of Air Force One. He had stopped using that last week in favor of the $400 million palace on wings. The President claimed that the plane switch was so that US troops in England could tour the upgrade. Sure. Eh, no. Because everyone was so excited to tour the new Air Force One. Yeah, that, that. Make sure. I think it probably has more to do with the fact that the Iranians keep saying they want to kill him. And maybe it turns out that if you accept a jet from the Iranians greatest diplomatic ally in Qatar, or if you accept favors from the Pakistanis, also allied with the Iranians, that ain't a great idea. There's President Trump acknowledging that the Iranian regime would like to kill him, which is only obvious because they keep putting up posters saying they want to kill him.
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Candace Owens
Everything's gone. Their leaders are gone. Head leaders. They're gone. And they had another set of leaders. They're gone. Now they have another set of leaders. They may be gone, gone. Who knows? And. And you know what? I may be gone, too, because I'm their number one target. It's out all over the place. I'm their number one. Because they're scum. That's the way they act, and that's the way they've done it for 47 years.
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Ben Shapiro
So the President said in this NATO summit in Ankara, Turkey, that the Iranian regime was scum, which, of course, they are. I mean, that seems like a pretty good description of a group of people who murdered 42,000 people in the streets over a single weekend. Well, he was asked, what change? Because you were calling them rational five seconds ago. And he's like, well, then I got to know them
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Rahm Emanuel
today.
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Abdul El-Sayed
You said they were scum, sick people
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Ben Shapiro
and being led by sick people. What changed?
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Candace Owens
And do you think I got to know? So I've said that about a lot.
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Ben Shapiro
Look at the Rubio's face in the background, the Secretary of State, like, because he actually knows. Like, Marco Rubio lives in the world of reality. He doesn't live in the fantasy land of dumb negotiations that go nowhere. In any case, the President then said, maybe I'll have to finish the job. Well, yes. I mean, reality will dictate that. Reality will dictate one or the other reality will dictate that either you walk away and Iran has more leverage, or you don't walk away and you have to finish it. Those are the. Those are the choices. There is no third magical choice where Iran moderates and becomes our friend. That is not how the world works.
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Candace Owens
Based on their actions over the last week or two, they're not. They're not doing a service to the people. And I think more than anything else is I got to know him, and I'm not sure I want to make a deal with him. We can play games, but I'm not sure I want to make a deal. I just finished the job.
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Ben Shapiro
Okay. You know, that would be the right idea. So. Last night, there was an exchange of fire between the United States and Iran. According to the Wall Street Journal, the United States pounded targets that included missile and drone sites near the Strait of Hormuz, while Iran fired on Kuwait and Bahrain, which hosts US Military bases. According to a senior US Official. On Thursday, Jordan said its air defenses had intercepted eight Iranian missiles. The United States struck 90 military targets to further degrade Iran's ability to attack commercial shipping and innocent civilian mariners in the Strait of Hormuz. According to centcom, explosions were reported in Bandar Abbas and Sirik, which are located along the coast framing the Strait of Hormuz. US Attacks were broader in scope than Tuesday's. They included air defense systems, coastal surveillance asset, naval capabilities and logistics infrastructures, including a a bridge in Iran. Now, one thing you will notice that the Iranians, they're firing at Kuwait, they're firing at Bahrain, they've been firing at uae, at Jordan. You notice who they're not firing at? They're not firing at Israel. You want to know the reason they're not firing at Israel? They fired Israel. They're getting clocked and they know it. That is the reason they're not firing at Israel. You would figure that they hate the Jews the most and they would fire it at Israel. Nope, they're not going to do that because they are afraid of what Israel would do in response. So in essence, the United States is still holding back its hand. The United States is still dictating to Israel that Israel shouldn't get involved, obviously. So we'll have to see how this plays out. But let's just put it this way. I think the wishes and hopes that Iran would be moderate the new regime, it's not a reality. It just isn't. Now, what should happen? Well, we need to actually restock. Regardless of what you think about the war in Iran or the pursuit and the pursuit of interests in Iran, leaving our cupboard empty militarily is a dumb idea. The fact that we are still holding up in Congress funding to restock the Defense Department is ridiculous and insane because we have enemies in say, China and in Russia. And if you would like the United States to be able to deter further action, further aggression, you, you need to fund up Mitch McConnell's absence. Unfortunately, his three week hospitalization is throwing a wrench into this. According to Politico, McConnell chairs the Senate appropriations panel that controls Pentagon spending and he is hoping to move forward a $1.5 trillion boost for the military. Now, the White House doesn't necessarily need McConnell's vote to advance a third reconciliation bill, but his absence is definitely a complication. Again, just demonstrating once again that many of the people that, quote, unquote, the base hates most are people who are quite vital for the pursuit of American interests abroad. Okay. Meanwhile, as we've seen, the President was at this NATO summit over in Ankara. The President has been right for years about NATO self funding, about nations in NATO having to increase their funding. He's been right about that for years. Now, let's take a Second, and review what NATO is for. Originally, NATO was formed in the aftermath of World War II. The basic idea of NATO was to keep the Germans down, meaning you didn't want a reconstituted, unified Germany that was going to launch World War iii. To keep the Americans in, meaning keeping America's interests protected in Europe and to keep the Russians out, meaning keep the Russian bear at bay. That's what NATO was formed to do, those three things, keep the Americans in, the Russians out, and the Germans down. That's what it was for. Over time, it was no longer important to keep the Germans down because the Germans had moderated and you no longer had a Nazi regime or a Nazi adjacent regime. And so as things developed, the other two things ended up being quite critical. Keeping the United States in and keeping the Russians out. NATO was always, always an anti Russian force. That's what it was for. Why? Well, because Russia, its interests, as we used to know until 30 seconds ago, are adversarial to those of the West. I know that there are propagandists out there who are either being paid or are just dumb who are maintaining that somehow Russia's interests are aligned with our own. I would like to see one single, solitary shred of evidence this is the case. Certainly Putin does not say that when he is speaking in Russian to his own people. Certainly his chief philosopher, Alexander Dugin, doesn't say that. Instead, the idea is that Russian imperial adventurism abroad is necessary to the Russian identity, which is why Russia, or over the past couple of weeks has been threatening Poland. They're prodding, they're trying to see where NATO is weak. Well, the President until now has had this kind of bizarre position where he wants NATO to spend more on self defense, but he won't say self defense against whom.
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Jim Himes
Right.
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Ben Shapiro
Because again, I also want NATO to spend on its own defense, but that defense is mostly directed against. Wait for Russia. While the President seems to be waking up to the reality that perhaps the Russians are in fact the problem, he had a very good meeting with Volodymyr Zelensky, the Prime Minister of Ukraine. And, and it went very well. Trump said that he would let Ukraine make Patriots Patriot missiles.
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Candace Owens
One of the things we're going to be talking about is you'll, we're going to give a license to you to make Patriots. That's pretty cool. Right this way. You can't complain that we're not giving them enough. It's a make them yourself. We haven't informed the company of that yet, but that'll. That'll work out all right, you know.
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Ben Shapiro
So according to the New York Times, Ukraine has long pressed its Western allies for more Patriot interceptors. But global inventories are under severe strain. And so Ukraine has now been given the ability to develop its own Patriots, which are shooting down, they're made for shooting down missiles coming the other way. Ukraine's air force did not intercept any of the 23 ballistic missiles launched by Russia last week. Zelensky said in an evening address on Monday. Again, he's the president of Ukraine. We have long made the case we are capable of producing such defensive weapons ourselves. If Ukraine were granted U.S. licenses to produce Patriots, our own production would be sufficient to both protect Ukraine and to help partners in need. So it's good, you know, the President is recognizing this. President Trump asked Zelensky if he would go to Moscow and it turned a little funny.
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Candace Owens
President Putin said, I would love to meet in Moscow. And I said, I don't think, you know, I have to put myself in this position. I don't know that he'd go to Moscow. Maybe he would. Would you go to Moscow?
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Ben Shapiro
It's difficult. There are a lot of Ukrainian drones there.
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Graham Platner
Dangerous.
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Ben Shapiro
Zelensky getting off a pretty good line there.
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Jim Himes
Okay.
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Ben Shapiro
But the reality is the President seems to be awaking to Russia's nefarious influence in the region. Now, I will say that the downside of the NATO summit was the President's warm verbiage about Turkey. Turkey is in fact a nefarious force in the region. Turkey is very much wedded to terrorist groups, including Hamas, terrorist groups including the Muslim Brotherhood. Turkey does have its own imperial ambitions in the Middle East. They extend down into Syria. It is Turkey, presumably, that has been suggesting Syrian involvement in Lebanon, which is a terrible, terrible idea. Turkey, of course, is very close with Russia. So if the idea of NATO was a counter Russian weight. Turkey originally joined NATO in 1952 as a weight against Russia. Right. That is why it was joined to NATO. America used to have Jupiter missile stationed in Turkey for this reason. If Turkey is just going to be a Russian cat's paw, there's no reason for them to be part of NATO anymore. Certainly selling them F35s would be a pretty terrible idea. Turkey is basically triangulating they want our weaponry, but they really want to align their interests with China, Russia and Iran. That's what Turkey is doing. So mistake to draw Turkey close because again, you're welcoming an adder into your bed. Meanwhile, closer to home, the National Museum of American History at the Smithsonian is a taxpayer funded museum and it is increasingly crazy. President Trump has been calling out the fact that, that their exhibits are wildly anti Western. And he is not wrong. Yesterday, the White House Domestic Policy Council put out a 162 page pamphlet study called Saving America's Story. And it pointed out how the Smithsonian offers a view of American history that, quote, no longer treats the American story as a shared national inheritance to be taught or celebrated. Instead, the idea is that the United States was founded only for some, that it is a sectarian and terrible place. In one exhibit, for example, the Pledge of Allegiance is described as a tool to, quote, instill American nationalism through flag ceremonies. I mean, I'm, I'm confused as to why that would be a bad thing. How about the Pledge of Allegiance is a. Is a ritual designed to allow children to understand why it is that it is good to be American. The museum says that Benjamin Franklin is both racist and anti immigrant, points out that Alexander Hamilton owned slaves, ignores the fact that both of them were actually quite abolitionist in their time. One Smithsonian study about the Broadway musical Hamilton described Hamilton as influential and flawed. It did not note that he was a drafter of the Federalist Papers. And also it didn't note that he also helped found the anti slavery New York manumission society in 1785. The Smithsonian under Secretary for Museums and Culture, a guy named Kevin Gover, said in 2016 at Brown University that he wanted to replace Columbus Day with Indigenous Peoples Day because Christopher Columbus was a slaver and a killer. Also, the Smithsonian Undersecretary for Education, a person named Monique Kism, and museum director Anthea Hartig, began museum speeches with land acknowledgments. And land acknowledgments is the dumb thing where people get up at the beginning of an event and they say, we are now standing on Iroquois land. To which the normal response is, okay, so why don't you give it back, because this is dumb. Acknowledging that you, quote, unquote, stole the land from somebody is usually the precursor to giving it back to them. Or alternatively, land changes hands over the course of human history. And we should stop with this nonsense. The Smithsonian Art Museum and Smithsonian Learning Lab created a poster that says, quote, whiteness as a concept is foundational to the history of the United States, actively shaping this country's social, cultural, political and economic structures. And of course, the museum has a We Belong Here exhibit in which we are told that, quote, the struggle for equal opportunity in sports began long before Title 9 became law in 17 in 1972, and it continues today as transgender non Binary, non binary and cisgender female athletes demand equality. The Feds fund about 62% of the Smithsonian budget, some 1.1 billion in fiscal 2026. So the recommendation by the Trump administration was maybe we shouldn't do the America hating routine. By the way, they also call Mickey Mouse. They say that Mickey Mouse quote, with his outsized facial features, white gloves and trickster temperament represents, quote, vestiges of long standing traditions of blackface minstrelsy. I have a question. Have you ever watched Mickey Mouse and gone, hey, that reminds me of blackface? Has that been a thing you do? Maybe the key about Mickey Mouse is that Mickey Mouse was the foundational character in the creation of an entertainment enterprise that spans the globe. Literally every child on planet Earth knows who Mickey Mouse is. And yet somehow the Smithsonian's key lesson is it must have been racist somehow. Yeah. It turns out that all of these career staffers at government institutions like the Smithsonian need to be re examined in terms of their politics. Because how you educate the next generation makes an awful lot of difference in terms of how they think about the country. And you may think that it's minor or you may think that it's stupid or that it doesn't matter very much. It's not true. Millions of school children this year will go to the Smithsonian. And if the place is overwhelmingly oriented toward a vision of America that is left wing, that does have an impact. And there have been studies suggesting that one of the best indicators as to whether a child grows up conservative or liberal in the United States is whether they go to a fourth of July parade when they're a kid. Experiences determine how you think. And if you go to the Smithsonian, you read a bunch of exhibits about how America is racist, transphobic, terrible, that's going to make a difference. And no, we should not be spending our taxpayer money on that. By the way, if you want to know more about our founders for real, we have a series ad free at Daily Wire you can find on YouTube as well a three part series on Thomas Jefferson and John Adams and Gouverneur Morris. You should go check those out because again, kind of good intro to some real American history. All right, folks, you thought the show was over. It is not. We take your questions. We do this all the time. But you have to be a subscriber in order for that to happen. Head on over to Daily Wire right now. 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Candace Owens
Sam.