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Ben Shapiro
The bad guys always think they're the heroes. Anthony Fauci, remember him? Well, it turns out that perhaps the best predictor of monstrously egotistical behavior is if you have a giant portrait of yourself in your house. Because now we know Anthony Foushee was a fame obsessed publicity hound who was willing to use power to subvert the truth. That's not speculation, that's just reality. Because Anthony Fauci kept a diary. 1100 pages of a diary, and Rand Paul just dropped all of it. Here's the thing about a diary. It's where you write what you actually think, not what you tell the cameras. And what Anthony Fauci told the country and what he wrote in private turn out to be kind of different stories. Wait until you see what's in it. All that plus President Trump drops jokes at the White House Correspondents Dinner. Leakers in the White House undermine the war in Iran again. And we play Seven Degrees of Katy Perry. This is the Ben Shapiro Show. Okay, so here's the thing about conspiracies, actual conspiracies, not conspiracy theories. There's evidence to them, and also they accord with typical human behavior. Well, it turns out that in the list of motivations for human beings, ego is the very top of the list. Ego is one hell of a drug. Remember Anthony Fauci ahead of President Trump's Covid efforts and then Joe Biden's Covid efforts under the National Institutes of Health. Well, on Friday, Senator Rand Paul published and Anthony Fauci's personal diary, which is like 1100 pages of entries running from late 2019 through Fauci's retirement in December 2022. It's a journal scrapbook that has hundreds of articles about himself inserted into it. 641 entries are labeled press that are largely about himself. What exactly did he preserve in his diary? Well, among other things, Tom Elliott notes on substack. He kept the Washington Post column comparing a Rand Paul cross examination of him to watching Albert Einstein being disputed by his dry cleaner. Because Fauci is like Albert Einstein. According to Anthony Fauci, he kept a Joan Baez portrait and her calling him an American hero. He kept cookies from Joe and Jill Biden with the note, you are our hero. And Julia Roberts gasping on Instagram livestream that he was her personal hero. And Marian Wright Edelman calling him a true national treasure. And Beth Cameron of the NSE texting that he was her hero for what he did with Rand Paul. That's the kind of person that Anthony Fauci is. And Was. And again, a lot of the public indicators were there. I mean, remember this from 2021, when Anthony Fauci suggested that attacks on him were identical to attacks on science. They were the same thing. This is what he told MSNBC at the time.
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Dr. Anthony Fauci
A lot of what you're seeing as attacks on me, quite frankly, are attacks on science, because all of the things that I have spoken about consistently from the very beginning have been fundamentally based on science. Sometimes those things were inconvenient truths for people and there was pushback against me. So if you are trying to, you know, get at me as a public health official and a scientist, you're really attacking not only Dr. Anthony Fauci, you are attacking science
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Ben Shapiro
because he is the. The signs. Just like the emperor was the Senate, I am the Senate. That that was who Anthony Fauci was. And you recall, don't you, Anthony Fauci basically using every opportunity to get in front of a camera. And that guy had red light syndrome like no one's business. You remember that. You couldn't go to the ballpark during the pandemic for no reason, by the way, because it turns out that Covid did not travel in the open air. Right? Covid. Covid was just not being driven by outdoor exposure. Didn't matter. Entire baseball season played without human beings in the stands. Except for Anthony Fauci, who personally went to a Washington Nationals game and they piped in the fake applause. And then he showed up wearing a mask, which he then took off during the game to talk to his friends in the stands. He had the entire place to himself, but he threw out the first pitch. It was one of the worst first pitches in baseball history. You might recall this one. That is piped in noise, by the way. No one's actually cheering. And Whoa. Like the 50 Cent first pitch. Not. Not good stuff there from Anthony Fauci. Not, not great. About as wide of the mark as his takes, as it turns out, on the Wuhan virus. Well, if you go back to his diary again, it is all ego, all the time. So From Fauci's diary, March 21, 2020, he says, Big front page article about me appeared in the Washington Post. Very flattering. The situation with my national and international fame is explosive and really unimaginable. It is not hyperbole to say that today I am the most famous and talked about person in the country and one of the most recognizable person. Peace. And he says in the world. Countless profiles on me in multiple media. I cannot even read all the things that are written about me since I am so busy. Seriously, POTUS seems to be enamored of me even though I am taking the spotlight away from him. We're developing a very unique and interesting relationship. The entire Secret Service corps is coming over to me and chatting. Let me into the first gate without even checking id. Everyone is worried about my health and welfare, probably because it is all over the place that I am almost 80 years old. Wow. Wow. It must be great to be Anthony Fauci. By the way, if you sit there reading your press clippings all day, you're doing it wrong just in life. July of 2020 again, as as thousands of people are dying, Governor Andrew Cuomo called me asking how I was. I told him I was upset the far right was trying to discredit me. He strongly suggested that I resign. He does not seem to appreciate the difference between resigning from TF and resigning from niaid. He said I will lose credibility if I stay in. My legacy needs to be preserved. He said if I quit, he will make sure I'm hired as an Uber consultant and could do very, very well in the private sector. Sorry, not for me. And then of course, fast forward to September and he saved a snippet from Jimmy Kimmel, who had written this homage to him in Time magazine, because that is who Anthony Fauci is and was now the media were working with Foushee to prop him up. So he points out that in January, January 8, 2021. Right. This. This of course, is during that interim period between President Trump losing the 2020 election and Joe Biden taking office. And he writes about his relationship with Jeff Zens. Sorry, no. Jeff Zenz was Joe Biden's chief of staff and he writes in his diary. At 8pm tonight, as I was over at Robin Ellen's open garage dining room, Jeff Zentz called me again asking for a favorite. A political reporter is already getting ready to write a story spreading rumors that Biden is upset with his Covid team. And Jeff is asking a favor for me to go on background and tell the reporter they are doing a very good job. I told Jeff I would of course be very happy to do this. This would be the Biden administration coordinating with the media very, very early on. And of course, as it turns out, it turns out that Fauci knew pretty much all along that the origins of COVID were in fact not related to a wet market. Now, again, Covid was almost certainly a leak from the Wuhan laboratory. Everyone knows this. This was speculated early on by Tom Cotton of Arkansas and everybody on the left, including in the legacy media, of course, jumped all over cotton and suggested that it was a conspiracy theory to speculate as to whether the virus had come not from some weird guy eating a bat, but actually had come from, you know, the lab that did infectious disease studies on coronaviruses. Well, Jim Garrity writes in National Review, as late as 2023, writers and publications like the Atlantic were arguing that infected animals at the Hunan seafood wholesale market were the most likely source of the pandemic. But as early as January 26, 2020, okay, this is like before anyone even knew this was going to turn into a global pandemic. Anthony Fauci is writing in his diary that it almost certainly did not come from the market. Quote, we know the market was not the source. It was the amplifier. Having said that, somewhere the virus jumped from animals to humans. So that is In January of 2020, he is saying the first cases were not from the market. He said might get spread at the market, but that's not where it started. June 4, 2021, he says, I received an extremely strange and unexpected briefing by the CIA related to the origin of the virus. Beth Cameron from NSC was listening in on one of the other screens. As it turns out, she was as baffled as I was by the briefing. It was very similar to some of the very disappointing briefings I had previously received in prior years from the CIA. A young woman whose name was Camille Hartman, gave most of the briefing. She was accompanied by what was probably the senior male CIA person and another young woman. Camille, in my mind, was almost pathetic in her naivety for an obvious lack of appreciation of any of the science of what she was talking about. She gave instances of things she said were gotten by CIA intercepts of conversations in China, particularly in Wuhan. Her major point was she feels that the Chinese have not been transparent about what was going on in their labs since there were no reports publicly of what they found out from intercepts. So again, he was writing that the CIA was naive about all of this. And then there is the aspect of what Fauci was writing about in his diary, talking about the shutdowns and the spread and his attempts to subvert alternative strategy to cope with COVID February 2020, says, Tom Frieden called me this a.m. and we discussed various aspects of the outbreak. He and I are on the same page in thinking this is acting like a bad influenza in its transmissibility. And the denominator is much greater than 35,000, making the case fatality rate more like 0.2 to 0.3%, rather than 2.0%. So we knew early on that actually Covid was spreading incredibly quickly and that the death rate from COVID which was the big question, right. The big question all along from COVID was what was the transmission rate and what was the death rate from the virus? He knew early on it was much, much, much lower than the public was being led to believe. In March of 2020, he brags that he convinced everybody to shut down the country. That he spoke with Bill de Blasio and said that he should close all the bars and restaurants in New York City and that he spoke with California and that Newsom had decided to close the schools and the bars and the restaurants. And he says, when I left the White House and crossed Pennsylvania and 17th street, several cars honked their horns and shouted thank you out the window. Wow, what a hero. Okay. But as it turns out, he then went out publicly and lied to Batya Angar Sargon, among others. He told her, this is July of 2022, that he did not recommend locking anything down. His diary explicitly says he did recommend locking things down.
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Interviewer/Host
I wonder if you would recommend locking
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Ben Shapiro
down schools if you had to do it all over again.
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Dr. Anthony Fauci
Well, you know, again, it's. First of all, I didn't recommend locking anything down. You're asking me questions. You're talking about. The CDC is the public health agency that uses their epidemiologists and their science based approach to, to make recommendations.
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Ben Shapiro
Okay, so again, Foushee was the bad guy. Not because bad guys know they're being bad, but because they think they're lying for a higher purpose.
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Political Commentator/Analyst
Right.
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Ben Shapiro
Fowchee was lying because he thought that he was quote, unquote, doing the right and just happened to align with his personal interests, his interest in being on the COVID of InStyle magazine, which is a thing that actually happened. An 80 year old doctor ended up on the COVID of InStyle magazine.
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Political Commentator/Analyst
Right.
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Ben Shapiro
That's who Anthony Fauci was. And it just goes to show you the foibles of human nature. Truly, I've said a thousand times on the show, you try to attribute things to stupidity rather than malice. It turns out that those two things can cross streams, Ghostbusters style. And you end up with Anthony Fauci with outsized influence over policy. It is one of the reasons our founders were a big fan of federalism and checks and balances in the federal government. So whenever anyone tells you what we actually need is a government that moves faster and hits harder and does things more quickly, I remind you, the government is staffed by lots and lots of people just like Anthony Fauci. Because it turns out in life, there are lots and lots of people like Anthony Fauci. In just a second, we'll get to a foreign influence op from our not friends in China. Speaking of China, when you look at the beneficiaries of America's gigantic debt, China is one of the biggest beneficiaries. And here's the thing. 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We know that China has been funneling intel to Iran in the middle of this war. We know that China has been stealing our ip. And we know that China unleashed the Wuhan virus on the world and then tried to block information about it so that we couldn't actually combat it properly. Now we know that China's influence machine is extremely active in the United States. According to Fox News, private entities based in China and Hong Kong, many of which have significant ties to the Chinese Communist Party, spend a significant amount of money attempting to influence America. The DOJ has recorded over $20 million in FARA expenditures from those entities in 2025, with millions of dollars more being recorded in lobbying disclosures filed with Congress. Chinese government sources over the same period spent close to $80 million on FARA expenses globally. The State Department estimated in 2023 that China spends billions of dollars annually on foreign information manipulation efforts. Now again, Farah is like the tip of the spear. The amount of Farah, you know, actively legally organized giving that China is doing in the United States is dwarfed by the amount of help it is giving from the outside American citizens who are very, very wealthy and probably subsidized by the Chinese government. Like say Neville Roy Singham, who's residing over in China, funneling money into the American political system because he's an American citizen. Or the echo chambers that have been created in the online space by the Chinese. Some five Chinese media operations are registered as active foreign agents in the United States. That'd be cctv, Xinhua News and China Daily. They each have direct affiliations with the ccp. Cctv, which is operated by the Chinese government, runs CGTN America. That's a Chinese flagship English language media operation and they received about $67 million in funding from CCTV between February and November 2025. It's important to recognize the operation because so much of what we are watching right now is an echo chamber created on places like X algorithmically derived media that can be gamed by our foreign enemies. It is one of the reasons, by the way, why the Democratic Party is radicalizing so quickly. Some of it's homegrown for sure. But let's be real about this. If you think that everything that is happening around the Zorn mom donnification of the Democratic Party is entirely domestically driven out of your mind. There's no question that is being bolstered and promoted. By the way, there are things on the right that are being bolstered and promoted in exactly the same way. You think the sort of weirdly pro Iran sentiment on some parts of the right is Organic, like truly organic to the Republican Party or the pro Russia bent of a chunk of the Republican Party? That that's organic. That's just randomly happening. I highly doubt it. Well, whether it is foreign driven or domestically driven, the reality is the vast majority of Americans are not into this crap. They are not. NBC's Steve Kornacki points out that while Democrats seem to be embracing socialism, the American public is not the Democrats. A majority of Democrats are favorable towards socialism, but when it comes to independents, independents hate it. Socialists winning Democratic primaries, candidates from the far left. And look at this here. Among Democrats, this is that Fox poll, a majority have a favorable view of socialism. Step outside the Democratic Party, it's a totally different world. Look at independents. Democratic socialism, deeply unpopular there. So is that a vulnerability for Democrats that would keep them from capitalizing on Trump's obvious weaknesses here? I mean, the answer there is yes, if Republicans don't play soft socialists. If the Republicans reject this stuff wholesale. I mean, it is incredible that the Democratic Party, because again, they have no systemic immunity to the socialist appeal, because they agree with the basic idea that socialism is beautiful in theory and that the socialist radicals are actually just too passionate. They're not wrong. They're just too passionate. And so they continue to grant credibility to people who wear horn rimmed red glasses and spew socialist nonsense. DSA National Co Chair, the Democratic Socialist of America National Co Chair Megan Romer went on Fox News and confirmed what they're looking for. And the answer is to destroy America is the real answer here.
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Interviewer/Host
So we're going to put up on the screen a few of the things that are part of your platform. And I want to ask you, just give me sort of a true or false on these. Abolish the Senate.
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Donald Trump
True.
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Interviewer/Host
Okay. Replace the presidency and Supreme Court as we now know them.
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Ben Shapiro
Yep.
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Interviewer/Host
Abolish ice. Absolutely. Abolish borders and give amnesty to anyone currently in the US Illegally as a long term plan.
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Ben Shapiro
Yep.
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Interviewer/Host
Defund the Pentagon. Absolutely. Abolish prisons, at least in large part.
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Progressive Democrat/DSA Member
Yeah.
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Interviewer/Host
Again, as part of a long term program.
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Ben Shapiro
Yeah.
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Interviewer/Host
Okay. So no prisons, government or public ownership of most large corporations.
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Ben Shapiro
Yeah, absolutely. Now, let's be clear. This is stuff that Democratic Party does not have the ability to reject. They don't because they decided they were going to ingest Bernie Sanders. And it turns out that when you ingest Bernie Sanders, you're going to get an awful lot of ideological diarrhea. Bernie Sanders is still like right now. If Bernie Sanders were 20 years younger, there is no doubt that Bernie Sanders would be the front runner for the nomination for the Democratic Party. At this point, he has too much of the party locked up. And Bernie Sanders is utterly unapologetic about his support for people like Graham Platner. He's, again, if you are far enough to the left, then every terrible thing you do is seen as an indicator of your commitment to the cause. Bernie Sanders on Face the Nation on cbs. And he said he does not regret any of his support for Graham Platner. Remember the. The main guy with the Nazi tattoo who is a little rapey.
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Interviewer/Host
You were an early supporter in Maine of Graham Plattner. You helped him rise. Do you regret not acting earlier to call for him to drop out? Given the warning signs, would that have.
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Progressive Democrat/DSA Member
No.
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Interviewer/Host
Given you a leg up here with Jackson?
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Progressive Democrat/DSA Member
No, I don't think so.
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Ben Shapiro
No. No, no. Now, Morris Katz, who's a top advisor to Platner, a person who helped pick Platner out of the lineup, he was with Ezra Klein. And again, Ezra's a nice guy, personally, but I gotta say that Ezra's systemic inability to condemn the radical left is a serious vulnerability for him. Obviously. Well, Morris Katz, who is one of Platner's advisors, he admits that the Nazi tattoo should have been enough to. To stop this thing.
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Political Commentator/Analyst
In hindsight, knowing what we know now, the Reddit posts alone probably should have been enough or should have been enough. The tattoo should have been enough. The initial New York Times story on troubling behavior should have been enough.
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Ben Shapiro
Okay, but it wasn't enough. And the reason it wasn't enough is because you guys thought you could get away with it. But the reason that they think they can get away with it, and this is the key, is that the Democrats, The DSA looks at the Democratic Party and they realize the truth about Barack Obama, which is that Barack Obama was Bernie Sanders, but better at it. The lie that there is a vast gap between the quote, unquote, moderate Democratic Party and the dsa. It is just that, a lie. They decided to sell their souls to Bernie Sanders after Bernie ran a surprising campaign in 2016. But the reality is that Barack Obama had already shoved the party dramatically to the left. It is incredible to me that people treat Barack Obama as though he was some sort of political moderate. He absolutely was not. Look at when America's national debt began to skyrocket. Look at the massive size of the federal government under Barack Obama. Look at Barack Obama taking every opportunity to divide Americans along identity politics lines. Look at Barack Obama, the architect of the greatest expansion of American government in the form of Obamacare in generations, the forcible rejection of Clintonian centrism. Barack Obama was Bernie Sanders. He just wasn't quite as loud about it. Which so, so here is where again Morris Katz is right, he is not wrong. Here he is saying that Obama was kind of Bernie, just better at it. Was Obama populist?
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Political Commentator/Analyst
I believe so, yes. I think his entire theory of the case is deeply populist. You know, he told the story of the country belonging to everyone and that being at the heart of things. And he told, and particularly his reelection campaign, I don't think gets talked about enough for just quite how populist the approach was. Mitt Romney was a Wall street villain who had shipped our jobs away, who wanted more money for himself and his Wall street friends, while Obama was a president who took them on, who brought the economy back, who stared down those same villains. I think that's an example where populism allows for a big tent and the people who critique it are just absurd because it's against their own interests.
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Ben Shapiro
And again, as Morris Katz points out, the next wave of that is the Mamdani Third worldism.
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Political Commentator/Analyst
The idea that it's Obama's we and it's Bernie's them. Like it's this Obama esque coalition that's inclusive and that we're all a part of and we're stronger when we're all in it together and we're taking on the Bernie Sanders version of the villains who are opposing us.
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Ben Shapiro
Okay, so again, he's not wrong about that. Now where Ezra Klein is uncomfortable is that it turns out that people like Morris Katz totally oppose his abundance Democratic Party mentality. So Ezra is the author of a book talking about how the Democratic Party should embrace, for example, deregulation and solutions driven policy making. But these people are not running on solutions. They are running on overthrowing the system, on a complete radical meltdown of the system. And they have the momentum because whoever argues for ripping down the system always has an inherent advantage over the person who argues that you ought to fix up the building. The tremendous drive in American politics, bizarrely enough, is to always tear down the system. The people who pose as the radicals have an inherent advantage. Running as an outsider has always been a a useful political tool. Pretty much every president has done it. Bill Clinton ran as an outsider to the Democratic Party saying we need to move away from the traditional liberalism and toward a third way centrism. George W. Bush ran in 2000 saying that we needed to move away from the harsh Gingrich sized Republicanism and toward a more compassionate conservatism. Barack Obama ran in 2008 on a more left wing version of what the Democratic Party was against, the establishment Hillary Clinton wing of the Democratic Party. Donald Trump obviously ran from outside the party and threw brickbats through the window of the party. So that is the way that you gain power. And the DSA knows this. And so the Democrats are having their milkshake drunk by the by the dsa. All right, coming up, trouble is brewing at the dnc. But that's not the only place that trouble is brewing. Okay, it is very hot down here. That's where the trouble is brewing. And when you go to sleep and you're sweating through your mattress, you ought to be thinking to yourself, do I really? Do. 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The that's helixleep.com men for 27% off site wide exclusively for listeners to the show. I've raved about Helix for years now. Go try it yourself. That's helixleep.com Men get 27% off sitewide unbelievable article at the New York Times talking about the failure of the Democratic Party. Quote, the Democratic Party is so short on cash that leaders at its headquarters have undertaken a new gambit to mask the severity of the problems, asking vendors not to send bills until after the midterm elections. The bookkeeping maneuver, which was described by three people briefed on it, is the latest sign of financial duress for the DNC and its embattled leader as money troubles threatened to undercut democratic momentum with 100 days until the midterms. Apparently, Ken Martin, who's the head of the dnc, threw his phone at the desk of a junior aide while upbraiding the person. The fallout from the phone throwing episode was described by half a dozen people familiar with the incident. The Democratic Party and its allies are far behind the Republicans when it comes to money because Trump controls a $400 million super PAC and the RNC has $130 million, and the DNC is $2 million in debt. That's not because Democrats don't have money. It's because people who are giving money to the Democratic Party are not giving it to the Democratic Party. They're giving it direct to candidate funds. They're giving it to super PACs. They're directing it away from the traditional Democratic Party. And so the people who consider themselves part of the mainstream are in retreat. Pete Buttigieg, who is silently running a sort of bizarro world presidential campaign, it's quixotic. He's got a very. A very solid crowd of uptight white ladies who support Pete Buttigieg. Pete Buttigieg, he, he says that the moderates have to defend themselves. They can't attack the dsa. Well, good luck, dude. I think those of us who are more moderate in the party should concentrate our efforts on talking about what we're for. Well, Rahm Emanuel, who's trying to run again, a quixotic presidential campaign, he's not going to win a single primary. He has a piece in the Wall Street Journal correctly pointing out that the Bernie Bros are a problem for the Democrats. He says today the Bernie Bros and their fellow travelers in the Democratic Socialists of America seem intent on repudiating the proven success of our strategy. When the DSA attempts to turn safe Democratic states and districts a darker shade of blue, Democratic candidates in swing districts are put at a distinct disadvantage. But in the name of authenticity, the DSA and others are saddling the Democratic Party with nominees whose wildly unpopular positions will protect Republicans from having to pay the price of Donald Trump's corruption and economic incompetence. So he says, basically, the DSA is going to lead us to lose. And Bernie Sanders went right after Rahm Emanuel in response.
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Progressive Democrat/DSA Member
Look, this is an argument. There's no, no debate. There is a strong division within the Democratic Party. You have an establishment like Rahm Emanuel who are dependent on billionaire campaign contributors who want to maintain the status quo. Then you have a progressive movement, which, by the way, what is getting these guys nervous is we are winning all over this country. It's not only Mamdani in New York City, it is in New Jersey, it's in Ohio, it's in Colorado. People are sitting sick and tired of the Rahm Emanuels and the Democratic establishment and the Republican establishment. They are asking simple questions. Margaret,
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Ben Shapiro
again, it's going to be interesting to see if the Democrats can fend off the radicals. There is sort of a proxy battle that's going on in Michigan. Haley Stevens, who's a more traditional she's very left wing, by the way, she sits in Congress. She's a very left wing congresswoman, but not left wing enough for the DSA because she's not wildly, wildly anti Israel. She's only kind of anti Israel. So Governor Gretchen Whitmer over in Michigan has now endorsed Haley Stevens in the Democratic primary because Democrats, I think, rightly understand that if Abdul EL Sayed, the terrorist supporting candidate, were to win the nomination, they quite possibly could lose that Michigan Senate seat. So here is Whitmer as governor.
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Interviewer/Host
I've had one strategy, get things done. That strategy informs everything that I do. And that's why I'm endorsing Haley Stevens for the the U.S. senate. Just like me, Haley will do whatever it takes to get things done for the people of Michigan.
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Ben Shapiro
By the way, the DNC also voted over the weekend to make Michigan a new primary state before, I believe that Michigan had been a caucus state. I believe, anyway, Haley Stevens, who is something out of a caricature. Haley Stevens. I mean, she's hilarious to watch because she feels like she's going to sell you a newspaper while wearing a cheese cutter cap in 1932. Haley Stevens. So she's just no matter what you think of Haley Stevens, she's an amusing figure. I hope she laughs on the scene mainly so that we can work on our Michigander accent. But here is Haley Stevens talking about how the jokes only make her fight harder.
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Interviewer/Host
Some of you have seen there's those cool kids on the Internet, they're doing the cool kid chatter. Some of them might be the coastal elites making fun of how I talk. Not okay, not okay, says my governor. But let's be real. They're making fun of Michigan. They're thinking they're better than us. And what they don't know is I am your voice. And their jokes and their criticism only makes me fight harder.
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Ben Shapiro
She's funny, okay? I have to admit that she's a funny person. It'll be interesting to see what happens in that primary. Meanwhile, of course, Abdul EL Sayed, who's running against her, the terrorist supporter. He is pushing Chris Van Hollen for Senate Majority Leader in praising Elizabeth Warren.
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Donald Trump
And if I have anything to do about it, the next Senate Majority Leader, Chris Van Hollen. And the intellectual spark plug of the
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Ben Shapiro
US Senate, Elizabeth Ward. So here is the thing. Some Democrats may be under the impression that Haley Stevens is going to wildly outperform Abdul El Sayed in Michigan. She probably will outperform El Sayed. It is a risky move for Abdul El Sayed to be the nominee in Michigan, considering that his background is filled not only with fibs and lies, but also with actual terror support. Again, this is a person who was caught on tape saying that he would not say anything about the death of Ayatollah Khamenei because it would tick off too many of his supporters in Dearborn, Michigan, which is insane. At the same time, is Haley Stevens some sort of, like, great candidate? I see no evidence of this. Now. The polls are showing Stevens with a bit of a lead right now. If you look at those Kalshi odds, the Kalshi market seem to be favoring Abdul Al Said by a factor of about 2 to 1, despite the fact that the polls are favoring Haley Stevens. It'll be fascinating to see how all of that plays out. And again, if Democrats do choose Abdul El Sayed and their Senate cycle this time around was like Graham Platner and whoever follows Graham Platner and Abdul Al Syed in Michigan and a candidate in New Jersey who literally was a spokesperson for an Al Qaeda member. That seems like a vulnerability for Democrats going into 2026. Again, we'll see if the Democratic Party can reject this, at least in the form that's presented in Michigan. They certainly have not in New York. In New York, obviously, there's going to be an enormous amount of unrest over the course of the coming days. Why? Because Benjamin Netanyahu, the Prime Minister of Israel, he's scheduled to come into Washington, D.C. today to go to the funeral of Lindsey Graham. He's also scheduled to meet with President Trump. And then he's going to go to the UN and he's going to speak. The UN, of course, is located in New York. Zaramdani, who is the terror supporting mayor of New York, you'll recall that just a few days ago, as in, like last week, called on the people of New York to go protest Netanyahu. And just a couple of days later, a man stabbed an Orthodox Jew on the streets of New York while shouting, wait for it, wait for it, wait for it. Allahu Akbar. I know you were Shocked. Here is Zoran Mamzani calling for the protests. So prepare for some violence over the next few days in New York, probably.
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Dr. Anthony Fauci
I think one of the bedrocks of our city is protest. It is something that has been a part of what makes our city so special that New Yorkers can express themselves whether they are in support or in opposition, no matter on whatever topic. And I've always said that when we respect our Constitution, we also respect our First Amendment. And here in New York City, it'll always be a place where you can exercise that.
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Ben Shapiro
Well, that's weird, because when there was a protest of Zaramdani's radicalism, which he deemed to be too right wing, and then a radical Muslim threw a bomb at the protest, he condemned the protesters. So only certain types of protesters get that treatment from Zoran Mamdani. By the way, the cops in New York are really ticked off about all of this. According to the New York Post, the mayor's activist posturing puts police officers on the street in a terrible position. According to nypd, Police Benevolent Association President Patrick Hendry said protests during the UN General assembly are nothing new. When the mayor of the city is actively calling for demonstrations, violent agitators will assume they have permission to cause as much havoc as possible. And those same agitators know the NYPD's protest response is already hamstrung by the dangerous lawsuit settlement the city signed over the Police Benevolent Association's opposition. The mayor's heated rhetoric could be enough to push demonstrations over the edge into chaos. That could very well happen. And of course, we've been watching as the intifada gets globalized. Remember that, that many people on the Democratic left were perfectly fine, including Mamdani, with globalized. The intifada. The intifada is a reference to the uprising. It is a violent terrorist assault on Israel. There were two of them. One of them happened in the late 80s, one of them happened in the early 2000s. Both at the cost of lives. The one in the early 2000s at the cost of hundreds of lives. Well, globalize. The intifada means just spread terror all over the map. And it's happening. And people being attacked in New York City while shouting Allahu Akbar. The suspect shouting Allahu Akbar. And then over the weekend, a car plowed into a crowd at a Berlin Pride event. Okay, this is according to the New York Times. That was the headline. Car plows into crowd. Do we know the car's political or religious persuasion? Can we guess? According to the New York Times, a car plowed through a park during Berlin's biggest LGBTQ Pride event on Saturday, killing at least one person in what the police said was a suspected act of terrorism. The police said the suspected attack happened shortly before 10pm in the Tiergarten, a major park in the city center, and that a hunt for a suspect or suspect was underway after the vehicle was found crashed into a tree and abandoned. At least 16 people had injuries, some life threatening. Apparently the suspect, known as Abdul B. Abdul Bal out. It turns out. It turns out that he was hacking at people with a machete and then he ran away and then they caught him and then he got killed. Well, his story is somewhat indicative of a West that is committing cultural suicide. Cultural and political suicide, according. Compiled from BBC PBS Time, pbsap, various sources. Here is the story. Ok, this person was born in Berlin, of course, Birthright citizenship for the win. Abdul Balat's mother was naturalized in 2002. That was three years before he was born. He then left Germany for Lebanon in 2025 with the intention of crossing into Syria to join ISIS. He was arrested in Lebanon, where a Lebanese military court tried and sentenced him to three months in prison for incitement to religious conflict. So he completed his sentence in Lebanon, and then he returned to Germany, where he was arrested. Upon arrival to Berlin, he was convicted by a Berlin juvenile court of preparing an act of state, endangering violence and spreading ISIS propaganda. He was sentenced to 1 year and 10 months, but public prosecutors considered the sentence too lenient. They appealed the decision, but here's the hilarious. So they said he's not in jail for long enough, but wait for German law. So here's how German law works. He was released while awaiting appeal. Okay, so he was supposed to be in jail. And the prosecutors appealed for a longer sentence. And the Germans released him while awaiting appeal for a sentence that had already been given to him. And during that time when he was awaiting appeal, he decided it would be a great idea to rent a white van and run down a bunch of gay people at the lgbtq. Plus minus divided by sign protest the Berlin Pride organizers. And again, the suicidal empathy, as Gad Sad would put it here, is insane. Berlin Pride organizers then got up and said, we would not want, we would, we would hate for this entire situation to be used as a political talking point. Do you know how pathetic you have to be when radical Muslims who call for your extermination attack and kill some of you, and your first response is, we must not label people like the attacker what they are. We must be very careful this does not turn political. My goodness. This is a civilization in a state of collapse.
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Defense Official/Expert
Our basic approach has not changed.
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Ben Shapiro
We reject all forms of violence, ideologies,
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Defense Official/Expert
be they religious or other extremists are
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Ben Shapiro
trying to suppress people. We do not want this deed to be instrumentalized for political ends. We don't want any groups to be
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Defense Official/Expert
placed under suspicion for this.
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Ben Shapiro
Unbelievable. Unbelievable, but all too believable, obviously. And the globalized intifada isn't limited to New York or Berlin. It's also happening in France. Just this morning, a pregnant woman was among three injured in a Paris attack as a knifeman was heard shouting. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. You're not going to believe what he was shouting. You're not going to believe it. It was Go Nicks. It was not Go Nicks. It was Allah ordered me to do it. I can't believe it. It is the most shocking news since. It's not shocking. Two of the three victims have been left severely wounded from the horror stabbing. Three women, aged 19, 24 and 36 were attacked with two kitchen knives. According to Interior Minister Laurent Nunez, two of the victims who were taken to the hospital remain in critical. One woman was hit in the lower back while the other was hit in the abdomen and the perpetrator was on the ground. And here's a clip of the perpetrator. I'll read you the translation by Vice Grad24. He doesn't know what he is doing, so someone to him, he says, allah ordered me. Someone says, there's no Allah, bro. He says, walla. We must stampede this son of a bleed. They know, seriously, he's crazy. Crazy doesn't mean anything. This woman says, that my girl. He says, allah ordered me. Allah ordered me. Yeah. Weird how that works. Probably we need to import more of that or make more room for all of that or, you know, call for gigantic protests against Jews in New York City, which is what, obviously this week will turn into. All right, well, on a lighter note, on a lighter note, the media saved most of their ire over the weekend for the President of the United States who attended the replacement White House correspondence dinner. You'll recall the first White House correspondence dinner was broken up when somebody tried to assassinate the President. Well, this one didn't go nearly as poorly. Say, the President's performance, it wasn't like top notch Trump. I've seen Top notch Trump before. He got some good shots in, he got some funny jokes, but it was kind of buried in an avalanche of, of, you know, stuff. He went on for a While. But there are a couple of solid jokes here. One of his most solid jokes came at the expense of my friend Barry Weiss. Here was President Trump
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Donald Trump
under my administration. A once feared and powerful regime that relentlessly attacked America has finally been toppled. Their former leaders have been removed and they're now being run by a gay dictator facing internal divisions. But I for one wish Bari Weiss all the best at CBS News.
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Ben Shapiro
It's a good joke. Be honest. It's a good joke. So first of all, he is calling the dictator wrong. But also, that's a good joke. Trump also joked about gunshots and Nicki Minaj. At the previous White House correspondent center.
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Donald Trump
After hearing the gunshots, many people yelled, get down. Get down. Which caused Nicki Minaj to start twerking. Do you believe? Get down. She's the only one that really understood what that meant.
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Progressive Democrat/DSA Member
Okay.
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Ben Shapiro
Not one of his. Better one. We'll evaluate. Okay. Joke number one, nine out of ten. Joke number two, three out of ten. Okay. President Trump also joked about a fourth term.
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Donald Trump
I want to save your ratings. I'm pleased to announce my intention to, and this is somewhat of a scoop, my intention to run for a fourth term as President of the United States. I will be doing that. I will be having an official. In fact, I think I have. Yeah, I won three times now. I'm gonna do it again. Thank you. I'm gonna do it again. Should be easy. I'm getting very good at running for president.
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Ben Shapiro
Okay. Yeah, like one out of ten on that one. Cuz he's made that joke before. It's an oldie and not very goodie. President Trump did drag Jake Tapper of CNN for his alleged delay on reporting Joe Biden's cognitive decline.
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Donald Trump
But some people say that Jake Tapper is a great investigative reporter in D.C. and that's why after moderating our debate, it only took him one year to break the story that Joe Biden might possibly have suffered from cognitive decline. Took him one year. He wrote a book about how great he was. Mentally, not too good.
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Ben Shapiro
Okay, again, not a joke. Just an accurate take there from the President of the United States. The President also went after Ilhan OMAR's World War 11 failures of the past. You remember that she does not know how to apparently read Roman numerals. So he made a joke about it.
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Donald Trump
It's becoming such a horrible and dangerous location that Ilhan Omar, one of my favorites, and her brother are thinking about moving together. Very much in love. A video has surfaced recently of Ilhan giving a speech referring to World War II. As World War 11. And they asked her about that. She still thought. She thought she got it right. But I'm not surprised because she's a low IQ person and she's also a very dishonest person and sure to get the hell out of our country. She shouldn't be here. She shouldn't be in our country. She also calls her brother husband number one.
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Ben Shapiro
Yeah, I like that. He's like, he has to take time out from the joke to just smack the crap out of her. Like, he's just in the middle of the joke, he's like, I'm just going to go into how much I hate Ilhan Omar, which I think made it funnier, I will admit. I think the delivery made that joke, which wasn't a great joke, funnier. So that's like a 5 out of 10. And then he went after Gavin Newsom.
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Defense Official/Expert
This one.
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Ben Shapiro
This one I kind of liked.
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Donald Trump
And it's traditional that at least one or two potential presidential hopefuls attend the Correspondents Dinner, but many of them seem to have really chickened out. I was disappointed that Gavin Newscomb didn't show up. He didn't show up. He should be here. But I heard that he recently said that we will lose our country if we don't fight fire with fire. And to be fair, there's only one thing we know about Gavin, and that's that he definitely doesn't want to fight fire with water. He's got a lot of water. Never uses.
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Ben Shapiro
Okay, that's a good joke. That's a good joke. Okay, so best two jokes so far, obviously. The Barry Weiss joke and also the Gavin Newsom joke. Okay, but there is one that set the media aflame. The media were just rageful about this joke. They were horrified by this joke. So the president loves to pick on Kaitlan Collins of cnn. He's constantly calling on her just to rag on her. Well, he did that again, but he did so with a comparison that the media are losing their minds over here. Was the president at the White House Correspondents association dinner.
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Donald Trump
But I want to personally congratulate CNN's Kaitlin Callens on receiving her award. It was all about me. It's a fake. She shouldn't get the award. It was a fake. But I didn't mind. I said, kaitlyn, Kal, congratulations. But it was fake. There's no question about it. But she's a young, attractive woman. She never smiles. I said, caitlin, do you have a smile? Smile? You have a nice position. You're at CNN fake news. You should Be a happy person. So smile, Caitlin. Just smile. But we attack. And I thought Caitlin had really made it big with a major new sponsorship. But then I informed her that it wasn't her on the Bud Light can. It was Dylan Mulvaney.
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Ben Shapiro
Okay, so this apparently was. How could he? How could he? CNN put out a statement condemning the President comparing Kaitlan Collins to Dylan Mulvaney. Dylan Mulvaney, of course, is a man who believes he is a woman. Mark Thompson said, quote, we stand by our journalists and the integrity and fair mindedness with which the CNN team reports the news. Honest, accurate journalism may sometimes irritate politicians, but our right to report and present that reporting to the public without government interference is fully protected by the U.S. constitution. CNN will continue to exercise this right. I'm not aware of anything in the joke that actually had anything to do with Caitlin Collins not being able to ask questions. She still is. And then the President put out a. An AI photo of Caitlin Collins as Dylan Mulvaney in that famous Bud Light influencer deal. Dylan Mulvaney then responded, quote, I am free in a way they will never have the privilege to experience. I mean, I hope I never have the experience of Dylan Mulvaney. Like, I'm. I don't know. I feel like I'm sort of attached to my appendages. They feel useful to me anyway, and they want to use their power to take away my freedom. What they don't understand is my freedom has zero contingency and what they can provide for me because my freedom is fully dependent on the moment I acknowledge my real, authentic self in everyday sense. And sharing that with the world is just icing on the cake. But they don't want me to be able to share that because it would mean young people realizing if someone like me can be themselves and find success and freedom, they can find success and freedom for themselves, too. Yeah. Nailed it. Now, okay, so first I just have to ask a question. Why was that joke offensive? Why was anyone offended by that joke? I've been told by the entire legacy media that Dylan Mulvaney is not just a woman. Dylan Mulaney is a beautiful woman. So what is offensive about that joke? What is insulting about that joke? You gonna say it? You gonna say it? You gonna say Dylan Mulvaney's a dude? That's why. It's an insulting joke. That's just a dude dressed up as a lady. You gonna say it? Guys are you. Didn't think so. Well, there are some sort of awkward juxtapositions at the White House Correspondents Dinner, Kristen Welker of msnbc. She was seen laughing with Stephen Miller at the. At the White House correspondent. Again, let's be real about. In Washington, you see, most people know each other, okay? It's a fairly small town, so this is really not a shock, Okay? I mean, they're just smiling and laughing at each other, you know, treating each other like humans. It turns out that when all is said and done, people tend to treat each other like humans when they're in person with. With one another. The President was laughing and shaking hands with the same Wall Street Journal reporters who originally had pushed the Trump Epstein story. He sued the Wall Street Journal for this story, by the way.
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Donald Trump
Trump quickly filed a $20 billion lawsuit against the Journal, revealing reporter Khadija Safdar's home address. Her family had to be relocated. The Journal was kicked off of Air Force One. But the reporters continue to file revelatory stories.
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Ben Shapiro
Please welcome the winners of the Katherine Graham Award from the Wall Street Journal. Gets a little funny, okay? That might have been the funniest moment is that he has to congratulate the reporters who he hates so much, like, and he doesn't care. So he's just doing it. It's kind of funny, okay? Other kind of celebrity political news. So Katy Perry, who is just parodic at this point, she's just a parody of herself. And if you chart the life of Katy Perry, the seven degrees of Katy Perry is insane. That's an insane seven degrees of Katy Perry just in terms of her love life, right? She was married to Russell Brand and now she is dating Justin Trudeau. Just that right there. That Venn diagram is super duper weird. I mean, if you connect Russell Brand going the other way, you end up with like Candace Owens and Nick Fuentes. And if you go the Justin Trudeau route, you end up with, like, full communism. So it's like the full horseshoe via Katy Perry. It is. It is wild stuff. In any case, Katy Perry over the weekend said she was very upset that the White House used her song firework on their TikTok account as a backing track for video footage of military strikes. She. She said, I did not approve this. I was not asked, and I absolutely do not condone it. To see a message of self worth and upliftment weaponized to soundtrack destruction and violence is a complete violation of everything my song stands for. Well, lady, you already gave up the rights to your catalog for $225 million. I mean, that's kind of like your fault. Like, if you wanted to control it, then you could have not sold the rights to that stuff. And of course, it turns out that her Part of Me music video featured Marines from Camp pendleton back in 2012. Better times, man. Better times. Katy Perry, like with the military, man. Remember when she was younger and more talented? Yeah. Oh, well, her charging the beach there, it's like Elliot Page in the Odyssey. Anyway, okay, onto some actual serious news. Okay, some actual serious news. It is time for the President of the United States to fire the leakers. Fire the leakers. Mr. President, this is enough. They've had a series of leaks since the beginning of the war in Iran attempting to undermine the war in Iran. Those leaks have ranged from leaks of plans to arm the Kurds, to leaks with regard to Operation Project Freedom, to repeated leaks about America's military readiness. Whether you want this war to end with a full scale American military victory and capitulation by Iran, or whether you just want a better negotiated deal, one thing should be very clear. Leaking to undermine America's position even in the negotiations is a form of treason. And the President should be identifying the leakers and firing them at the very, very, very least. And frankly, I don't believe that he is serious about his negotiation efforts unless he does find and fire the people who are leaking to cnn, the New York Times and Axios. Series of leaks over the weekend highly damaging to America's even negotiating posture. So two leaks. One to Barack Ravid of Axios, who apparently is on everybody's quick call list from the Obama administration to the Trump administration. Ravid reported that the top U.S. military commander in the Middle East, Admiral Brad Cooper, recommended stopping the bombing campaign around the Strait of Hormuz because it had reached the limit of its effectiveness, according to two sources with knowledge of his position. He stressed that the two weeks of strikes in the Strait of Hormuz area had significantly degraded Iran's ability to attack ships. He noted the designated bombing targets had been mostly exhausted. Now, let's be real. It's the next sentence that matters. What he actually said is that if you wanted to finish off Iran, you could, but if you're not going to do it, then what we're doing right now isn't going to work. Which is correct. Some of us have been saying this, he said. The CENTCOM commander said a possible next step would be to resume major combat operations, but to finish the 20% of targets the US military designated but did not strike during Operation Epic Fury. Absent a decision to return to major combat operations, he stressed there was no point in continuing the bombing campaign of the previous two weeks. That's by the way. That's right, that's right. I mean, I've been saying that for a couple of weeks at this point. Basically everything since the President unilaterally declared a ceasefire back in April I think has been a bad idea. That is essentially where I am on this. I think the blockade was not terrible, but that was only in lieu of finishing the job, which is what we really should have done. Ok, but the more serious leak came courtesy of cnn. So this leak clearly came from the wing of the administration which not only wants negotiations with Iran, but wants to undermine America in those negotiations with Iran and essentially make it impossible for America to ever defend itself again. Because if you are just going to leak about U.S. munitions shortages and problems in our stockpile, what you are basically saying is that there is no conflict we can fight in the future. That's what this leak means. According to CNN on Friday, Dan Cain specifically raised concerns about U.S. munitions stockpile and other potential negative implications, according to the sources. One of the sources said that Kaine told Trump and the US military they could carry out the options available to him and be successful, but warned of possible implications. Most of the advisors in the room said if Trump wanted to pull the trigger on a bigger attack, the US could do so in a devastating way. But the President should consider the potential second and third order effects. So what were the potential second and third order effects? Supposedly a lack of stockpile of thaads and Patriot missiles. Also, quote, the potential for massive civilian casualties inside Iran if the United States resume major combat operations was also raised. I wonder who that could be. It's weird to me that the America first wing, so called America First Wing, meaning the isolationist wing of the party, is suddenly very concerned with Iranian civilian casualties and refugee problems in the Middle East. Very strange. By the way, it turns out that other members of the administration are saying this is not true. Elbridge Colby, who certainly is no member of the hawkish wing of the administration, he was on with Ross dude, head of the New York Times over the course of the last few days and he said we actually do not have a munitions depletion problem. Is it not in fact the case that many of exactly the kind of munitions and platforms that we need for the strategy of denial that you've described are now being used up in a currently stalemated conflict with Iran?
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Defense Official/Expert
Well, I wouldn't say it's stalemated. I think we're obviously. Well, let me.
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Ben Shapiro
All right, I'll ask you about that next, are we using one?
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Defense Official/Expert
I think that point is exaggerated and obviously I can't get into the details here. But the capabilities that are most significant have not really been. Are not really in the scarce supply.
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Ben Shapiro
Can you give me one example?
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Defense Official/Expert
I can't give you a specific example, but I can say with confidence that we're in good shape. But we are also paying attention to this. This is why we've been focused on this since day one. This is why we've been now pushing a $1.5 trillion budget request. This is why we've been impressing our allies not only to build up their own capability, but to build up their own defense industrial base. So obviously we want to grow so that we're in the best possible position ourselves as well as with others. But I feel confident in where we are.
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Ben Shapiro
The President said, quote, we have far more munitions than anyone in the world and far more than we need. So this raises the question, somebody's lying. And even if somebody is not lying, the question becomes, why would you want people in your administration leaking to the press that we have munitions shortages in the middle of a war? If you do that, there's only one purpose to do that and that is to undermine America's negotiating position. Because again, if the credible threat of use of force is not on the table, you do not have a negotiating position. The President needs to identify the people who have been leaking and he needs to fire them. And I'm always amused by the people who are out there suggesting that they shouldn't be fired. Let's say for a second it's true. Okay, let's say that they're not lying. Let's say that we are actually in shorter supply of munitions. That is even more reason. You don't want that leaked into the public for the Iranians to know. I mean, it turns out that war making policy, as the President is fond of saying, needs to be secret. He's not going to tell you what he's going to do. That's an important aspect of foreign policy. If you have people who are constantly running to the New York Times to undermine the war effort and to even undermining your negotiating position, shouldn't you be leaking? Shouldn't you be identifying them and firing them? There aren't that many people in these rooms, gang. There aren't that many people in these rooms. Who is leaking? Who's doing it? That's a problem. In the middle of a war, I would like for United States to win the war. I noticed the people who are defending. The leakers are usually the people who would prefer that the United States lose in the most humiliating fashion. Alrighty. Coming up, we'll get to the Canadians who are very, very, very angry at us. You think the show is over? It is not. The show never ends. If you're a Daily Wire member, you get even more analysis, more news coverage, access to ask me questions right now. And if you're not a member, become a member. Use code Shapiro at checkout for two months free on all annual plans. Click that link in the description and join us.