B (13:12)

Up into.

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Everyone says yup. The only 10% of people that don't say yup to voter ID are the criminal aliens, the literal illegal aliens and members of the Communist party who want to rig our elections. And that actually is the makeup of the modern day Democrat party. Here's the local news report. It passed with flying dominant colors in Wisconsin. If you are a homeowner in America, you need to listen to this. The FBI has been warning about a type of real estate fraud that is on the rise called title theft. Your home equity is the target. Here's how it works. Criminals forge your signature on a single document. They use a fake notary stamp and they file it within the county you live in. Then it's on the record that, well, they might be able to just steal your home out from under you, your ownership. They can take loans out against your home itself. They can even sell your property without you even knowing it until a foreclosure team shows up or notices in the mail. This is why I've partnered with Home Title Lock so that you can protect your equity. Find out today if you're already a victim, use my promo code benny@hometitlelock.com and you'll get a free title history report and a free 14 day trial for their million dollar triple lock protection. That's 247 monitoring of your title records, urgent alerts to any changes. And if fraud occurs, their US based restoration team will spend up to $1 million to fix it. This is the kind of security that we need in our home. And let me tell you, these days you cannot be too secure. That's hometitlelock.com promo code, Benny, or use the link in this description of the show. So was put on the ballot, it won. Once it was put on the ballot, it was a victory because Democrats have no way to fight it. Here we go. All right, we want to take you back to Wisconsin where the state Supreme Court race grabbed a lot of headlines. But we want to take a closer look at something else on the ballot. Voters. They're approving an amendment to the state constitution which makes photo ID a requirement to vote. President Trump calls this a big win for Republicans. Correspondent Alex Capriello is live for us in Madison, Wisconsin with more on this. Alex? Yeah, hey there, Nicole.

C (15:38)

So much attention, like you rightly pointed out, went towards this Supreme Court race. And despite losing that handily, Republicans here.

A (15:45)

In Wisconsin are still touting yesterday as.

C (15:47)

A major win, particularly because they're focusing so much of their attention now on this new voter ID law that includes Elon Musk. He's the man who threw more than $20 million behind that Republican backed candidate Brad Schimmel for Supreme Court. Musk writing on X that this was.

A (16:03)

The most important thing and it's the most important thing. What is the law now in Wisconsin, registered voters must present an acceptable form of photo identification, official federal and state identification at their polling places. Acceptable forms of ID include a Wisconsin driver's license, Wisconsin state id, US Passport, US Uniformed services card, like you're in the military, or a veterans card. You can also present your naturalization certificate. If you've just become an American citizen, can't fake those things. You run them through a system. Have you ever presented your ID at a voting location? You run them through the system and the system spits it out. If you are a, especially if you have the new IDs with the chips in them, it's a whole separate conversation. The point is that like you're not able to fake, you're not able to fake this stuff. You're gonna not be able to rig these elections. This is a win. And this is what's happening in California. Oh, it is a thing of beauty. I got this amazing video that was shared in the year 2020 by President Trump of how elections are run in California. Do you know that it's, do you know that it's illegal in California to ask someone for an id? Do you know this, that if you work in a polling location, you'll be put in jail if you ask someone for the identification when they're voting? Do you know that in California voter dropboxes look like this with mysterious masked men Looking like they're in a bank heist, pulling out by hand. Just stacks of ballots, just flopping them into duffel bags. Super secure. You are looking at ballots. This is what our country has come to. President Trump. You know, just miss, just mystery men in urban wear, flopping ballots all over the sidewalk. Just a, just classic. Just a classic. Very safe, very safe operation. California legislature has banned voter id, has voted in order to ensure that by fiat you cannot ask for ID in California. What has this wrought in California? Well, ladies and gentlemen, there are massive cases of voter fraud in California. Put up the heritage chart, please. Thank you. There are. Let's go ahead and check the database here. For election fraud in California, we have criminal conviction, criminal conviction, criminal conviction, criminal conviction, judicial finding, criminal conviction. These are all, these are all frauds. There have been overturning of elections actually based on. Over voter fraud, where the Department of Justice finds that the person who won the election did so with illegal votes. This has happened all over California. Former Orange County Seattle councilmember charged with election fraud. My goodness. Was California woman charged with voter fraud for registering her dog and voting in two elections. Got it. You ever seen that one? Scroll through them, Klein. Please, just, just. This is just like a 10 second Google search on how much voter fraud is there in California. Compton City Council election overturned in the wake of vote rigging scandal. So the dude who won the election was kicked out of office by a judge because he was using illegal criminal votes to get in office. Amazing. Keep going. Sonoma county man 77 sentenced for voter fraud Experiment. Okay. The entire state of California is an experiment. Let's continue. You got some more? Just hit me with the headlines here. I had Special election for LA county voter receives ballot for person who died 31 years ago. Got it. How hard would that be exactly to rig an election when you were getting stacks of ballots for people that died last century? This is how. This is how California runs their election. 8,000 fraudulent voter registration applications filed by a pair of Hawthorne election officials. Only 8,000. That couldn't possibly rig an election. That could. That's the difference between every congressional elect. Every congressional race in California could have been won or swung by 8,000 votes, every one of them. That's how abysmal California is. How many do you have? Do you have anything else? Okay, that's what we hadn't just, just to just.

D (21:20)

We just crew.

C (21:20)

We didn't even do.

A (21:21)

This is just like before the before, like five minutes before we went live, I was like, hey, Alex, find me every single article you can on election. So this is just five minutes. In no way is this the complete cases of election fraud that happened in California even for the last couple of months. Years. Last two or three cycles. Canadian man charged with voter fraud after illegally voting in 2016 election. Okay, state of Washington. Either way, how many voters were purged from California's voter rolls recently? I think that's the one thing we're missing here. Weren't there two, Weren't there two million illegal voters that were purged California election voter rolls? What I'm saying here is it's a mess. What we've proven in Michigan is yes, illegals vote and can vote. And if they have the right connections to the communists, then they can just skip town after they vote. It's like they knew that was happening. What we proved in Wisconsin is that voter ID can win when it's placed on the ballot correctly. Democrats have no, no ability to fight it. And in California, how many California voters were purged from their, their despicable voter rolls? 2 million. Here's what I know. There's 5.8 million Republicans in California. Is that wild? There's more registered Republicans, excuse me, in California, than any other state. Yet California, I mean, Lord Trump tells me that California was the number one place for them to ship merch for the campaign. We should not abandon these states. There's no such thing as a permanent blue state. There's no such thing as a permanent red state. It's constant vigilance, and that's what we're seeing now. Producers, how many voters were purged from. From the California voter rolls? Call out by name, alx, Danny, Jack, Ashley, this is your call. Let me know. Got four producers on the show. We should be able to find out how many illegal voters have been purged from the California voter rolls. Ladies and gentlemen, it's a nightmare in California, but it doesn't have to be. And the same mechanisms. Thank you. California removed 1.7 million illegal voters due to failing return address confirmation notices. 1.7 million. Well, wait a second. Don't Democrats just win California by like 2 million votes? Is California a swing state? Gavin won by 2 million votes. These categories alone have removed the amount of votes that Gavin and the left have used to rig election California. Can it go red? And now you understand why they're trying desperately to gerrymander California. Ladies and gentlemen, voter registration. There you go. Okay, so we can toss the numbers up. Ladies and gentlemen, there is an effort right now to do exactly what happened in Wisconsin to California. It's an Amazing thing. It is an effort called Reform California and it's winning right now in order to place a voter ID requirement on the California ballot, which of course Democrats cannot defend against. They cannot. What are they going to say? Work through it in your own head. What would a Democrat say in order to fight against voter ID in America's most populous state? I mean, of course you know what they want to say. We've imported millions of criminal aliens to vote illegally in our elections. We've made our elections easy to rig with zero security. And we want all those criminal aliens to vote for infinity benefits, to plunder the wealth of America's Golden State into their pockets in exchange for permanent power for the Democratic machine. That's what they want to say. If they were honest, that's what they'd say. And that's why we don't want voter ID, because these aliens don't have IDs. That's what they would say if they were honest. Of course, they have no capacity to just say the truth. The truth ultimately is that we want to replace all Californians with criminal aliens. We don't like the natives of California. We, we don't like the people who live there. We want all of you to be replaced by an illegal Haitian or Guatemalan. And that's the plan. That's the plan. We prefer that. We prefer to rule over the ashes, Right? That's them being honest. They can't be honest, so they can't fight it. And this is what they're fighting right now. California voter ID initiative hits 250,000 signatures in just two weeks. Yo, how many votes? How many signatures do you need in Californians? Well, you need 874,641. So this is well on its way. It's about halfway. About a quarter of the way. Sorry, a third of the way. Let me get my math right. A third of the way. Done. Don't let me do your taxes. In a record breaking haul, the backers of the California Voter ID Initiative have collected more than 250,000 signatures of the 800 and so thousand that they need in order to force the issue onto the 2026 statewide ballots. Yes, as required by law, the today's initiative proponents will file a former formal certification with California Secretary of State to announce the initial tally. Ladies and gentlemen, California State assembly member Carl DeMaio is leading this effort and is winning. It's an absolutely wonderful thing. We are very, very excited to welcome Carl to the program live right now. Let's go.

B (27:37)

Carl.

A (27:37)

Welcome to the Program. I hear that you're joining us from a unique location. It's the campaign bus, right, for voter ID California.

C (27:45)

That's right.

D (27:48)

Supporter gave us their RV for free. We wrapped it. We've been driving it up and down the state of California. 72 events over 30 days. That was our initial launch. We're about halfway through and we're exhausted. I'm in Chico, California. Last night we were in Reading, California. You don't get 250 people to show up in Reading, California. But that's exactly what we did. We even went to the Bay Area night before. On Monday night, we were in San Jose. 500 people packed in to a community center in San Jose. And so we are going up and down the state collecting signatures, training volunteers. We have over 14,000 trained volunteers that are already deployed in just the first three weeks of this fight. And in the first two weeks, they collected over 250,000 signatures, which is a record breaking hall for a citizens initiative in the state of California. So this thing has great support. There's a fire that's been lit and Californians from all walks of life, even Democrats, are signing this initiative because they want to have trust and confidence in our elections. And as you quite perfectly set up, California has the worst run elections in the world. Not just in the country. All right? Third world dictators look at California's elections and they're envious. Like, hey, we don't have to shoot our opponents. We just have to adopt the California election model and we'll win every time. 3.1 million people were just purged. And that was because there was a threat of a lawsuit. But more importantly, all of those indictments that you presented, all of those stories that made it to the media, Benny, the. That's all happening when nobody is lifting a finger to investigate or enforce the rules. Do you understand how much fraud has to occur in California when you have just on the natural people admitting that they've done something wrong. The lady who got in indicted for the registering her dog and voting twice posted it on social media and admitted that she did it. She was proud of it. She put a sticker on the dog. There it is. She put a sticker on the dog that said I voted. And she posted it 18 months ago to social media. And people had to complain to the district attorney multiple times to get the DA to even take charges. And so all of those examples that you just cited are just a drop in the bucket because no one in office in California, because all the Democrats are in charge of the DA offices out here, they're not looking for voter fraud, they're covering it up. And so our California voter ID initiative, a state constitutional initiative, requires number one, citizenship verification for anyone registering to vote. It also requires a biennial audit. Every other year, every county's registrar will have their, their voter rolls audited. And if they're not doing their job, they will be subject to remediation and judicial enforcement. And then finally, we do require voter id. And so I'm most excited about the fact that we get to clean up our voter rolls. Yes, I want voter id, that's important, but it has to start with an accurate voter roll. Because if you have a bunch of illegal immigrants getting California driver's licenses and you know that that's the case, what good does voter ID do if you don't first clean up your darn voter rolls that are completely infested with ineligible individuals receiving ballots?

A (31:21)

You know, we know full well in Florida, Carl, that illegals get driver's license because they come here and kill Floridians. You know, they come here and they're driving big semi trucks. Yeah, they get them in, they get these cdls in California and they drive all over the country slaughtering people because they don't know how to drive because they come from the third world and they bring third world driving habits to American highways and they kill people. Yeah, we're well aware of how easy it is. And I think that the state of California should be held liable for this. The state of California is done with this, by the way, which is amazing. California, you posted here. Los Angeles Times shows that 71% of Californians support citizenship verification. How do you even fight this? There is no way. There are some 50, 50 issues. There are some issues that like, you can talk, oh, the Ukraine, war, Gaza, whatever. These aren't 50, 50 issues. These aren't up for debate. National polling is even worse for Democrats, shows that this is more like a 9010 issue in favor of voter ID, Carl. So there's, there's no argument for it, am I right?

D (32:25)

Oh, you're absolutely right. The LA Times.

A (32:28)

No argument against it. Forgive me, no argument against it. Here's the, here's the national polling, Carl.

D (32:32)

Yeah, yeah, the LA Times poll, you know, is center left, but even the LA Times poll showed a super majority support for voter ID. We've got 79% support in our polling for citizenship verification. And you know what's interesting? The Democrats say that voter ID suppresses votes of minorities and that is racist. Well, in our polling, non White voters in California support voter ID by a greater margin than these white voters who I call them the guilty white rich liberals of the coast in California. And the minorities are sitting there saying, what's wrong with voter id? It's not suppressing our votes. That's why we support it. And so if we get this on the ballot, when we get this on the ballot, we are going to have it pass. And you know, in California, it's very hard to get a citizens initiative on the ballot because, you know, it's expensive. The politicians have made it complicated. It's very legalistic in terms of how you have to sign the paperwork and date it and all that stuff. It costs typically 10 to 15 million dollars to put an initiative on the ballot. But because nobody in the special interest oligarch, dark money world supports voter ID because it's all about good for the people, not good for a special interest. We're forced to do this on a shoestring budget with volunteers. And that's never really happened almost since 1978 with Prop 13, the big taxpayer revolt movement in California. But we're about to do it again in 2025. And I'm so excited because when conservatives show that they can get volunteers on a shoestring budget to get things on the ballot in California, bypassing the politicians, that means that we have ballot access and that means that voter ID is only the beginning. Next up, we're going to repeal the sanctuary state law, including the Federal Reserve.

A (34:31)

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D (35:32)

California and we're going to eliminate the welfare for illegal immigrants that California politicians are giving out. That is a massive draw for illegal immigrants to come into this country through California because they're given all these freebies. And we will go after liberal policy after liberal policy after liberal policy because the reality is this in California, even the voters in California are waking up and they're adopting conservative ideas. And that's why ballot access for the freedom fighters in California is so important. That's why reform California wants to do this, just not for voter id. That's important. But we've got to show conservatives in California that if we ignite this movement, they can take back their state. And for you all watching nationally, I encourage you to watch what's going on in California for two reasons. First, if you wonder how messed up your skit your state can get, just look at California. Because the liberals in your state want to do to your state what they've already done to California. So it should serve as a warning to you why you should be active in your state. Because as Benny just said, red states can go blue if you become apathetic. But the second thing is, help us be the disruptors behind enemy lines. Because all that liberal money to support Democrat candidates in all these other states, particularly red states, it's coming from rich liberals in California. They send their money to your state. So help us light a fire behind enemy lines and help the movement in California. Go to the website voter id initiative.com if you live in another state, chip in a contribution if you know anyone in California, share that website and urge them to download, print, sign and mail in. There it is. Download, print, sign and mail in the petition to us. Because we need to get this done. And it's just absolutely pivotal, not just for California, but America, that we, that we get voter ID on the ballot.

A (37:31)

You bring up such a great point. I have a final question for you, Carl, but you bring us such an incredible point, which is that what's happened, especially over the last couple of years in America, is that we've just gotten nothing that we've asked for. There's not a single person, gay, straight, black, white, rich, poor, old, young, that wants a bunch of criminal aliens to get access to the treasury of California, the taxpayer treasury of California. No one. It just doesn't matter who you are. Nobody voted for that. Nobody wants that. Nobody wants. And we can prove this out through data. Nobody wants criminal aliens to vote. Democrats don't want it. Democrat politicians do want it. But, but the, like, the, the standard run of the mill walk down the street, Democrat voter is like, no, actually that sounds really bad. Like, I, I'm against that. But it's shoved by fiat down the throats of the most populous state in America in California, with that houses the most registered Republicans of any state. And these kind of policies no one wants. That's not democracy, Carl.

D (38:37)

That's not.

A (38:38)

That's not even a representative republic. That's just order. That's disordering. Like the democracy is when the majority gets over time, they get what they want, right? They eventually like, get, get the policies and the society they want. Nobody's asking for this in California, so it's totally wrong. I love that you're fighting it. I love that you're doing this behind enemy lines. My final question for you is, can you vision cast for us? You have a pretty optimistic audience and we like, like seeing the future. What does California look like with tight and secure elections and voter rolls? Do House seats flip? Is there a potential for like Republicans to start campaigning there on a national level? What does it look like with sort of the policies that you're saying you're going to project into the future? What does the California future look like, Carl?

D (39:22)

You know, as I travel the state, the first thing I start out with in my, my rallies is I need to give people hope out here in California because I believe that we're going to be able to take back our state if we get everyone who is upset about the direction of California off the couch and into the streets and give them the hope that they can actually stay and fight. Most Californians think our state's on the wrong track. And the ones that are Republican or center right are so depressed and so hopeless because we have a worthless Republican Party. The establishment out here is worse than even the Washington, D.C. ones. The only thing that they've done for 25 years is sell us out and surrender. That's the only thing they're good at. And so people have lost hope. And the only thing that they think they can do is move to another state. And they don't want to. They love, they love California. You, you folks that live across the country, you have to understand just how bad, how wretchedly corrupt a government needs to be for people to give up paradise. Okay? And Benny, you, you lived out here for a period. You know how awesome and beautiful this state is. You understand how wretchedly bad your government has to get in order for you to pack up and move somewhere else. And so the first thing I need to do is give people hope. But if they understand that the fight is actually winnable and it takes them and they animate, they activate, then we are unstoppable. We can take back this state. And the reason why Gavin Newsom is now rigging the election with his Proposition 50 election rigging measure, he says it's about Trump in Texas. That's not true. They've been plotting this for years. And when I filed the voter ID initiative in July, they freaked out and they thought it was a stunt. And then suddenly we said, no, we've got all these volunteers and we're launching on October 1st. I believe they're rigging the election with Prop 50 because they know when we get voter ID they're out of office. They know that their seats become far more competitive. So what is your option? Well, option one is to clean up your act and fix your problems. But oh, no, no, they're not going to do that. They got their rabid, far left extremist base that won't let them. So option two is if you have a fair election in terms of voting, you need to rig the election in terms of the line. And that's exactly what Prop 50 is all about. The national media, the local media out here in California refuses to tell the story that they've been plotting this for a while and that this has nothing to do with Texas or Trump. And so it is very frustrating because just as we were about to get fair voting, it's looking like we may end up getting unfair maps that are rigged to protect these politicians. But nonetheless, even with bad maps that may be imposed after Prop 50 and we're still fighting Prop 50 for the next two weeks. And I, I have, I have hope that we might be able to squeak out a win even if they get their, their wretchedly bad gerrymandered maps. There's one final destination here, and that is we are taking back our state. It may take a couple extra cycles, but Benny, every data point I'm seeing is screaming that even Democrat Californians are waking up and saying we need a shift and a change. And so I'm excited. I'm an optimist. We're going to continue to fight. We have a plan. And that plan requires that I wake up people here in California and get them in the fight. But those of you nationally, send some help to the freedom fighters. If you know anyone in California, share that website, voter ID initiative.com or ship in a contribution and we'll get the job done.

A (42:56)

Here's the website right there. It's also in the link in the description here's Carl's social media. His name is Carl DeMaio and he has 70 plus thousand followers. He's one of those guys that is just like extremely rare. He's willing to fight what some say is an unwinnable battle behind enemy lines. And you know what? Those are the best kind of fighters. Those are the kind of fighters that are real heroes. And Carl's winning. And we're excited to fight with you, Carl. We hope to join you on the road one of these days. Be awesome.

D (43:25)

Thanks, Betty.

A (43:26)

We hope we have to be come.

D (43:27)

Out for a rally.

A (43:28)

Godspeed. We're out there, brother. Thank you, man. Ladies and gentlemen, Carl DeMaio is sitting there in the golden state of California. Why do we say the golden State? Because Value Advantage Gold can help you get some of that. Value Advantage Gold is the gold reseller, experts and precious metals that I trust on this program, the Fed. We're gonna have also a couple members of Congress here joining us. Rand Paul's gonna be one of them. I wonder what he thinks about the Fed. The Fed is not good, man. And with the more that they print money, the more they start the money printer, the more actual physical assets are going to skyrocket and it's going to be boomtown. Let's just call it what it is, man. Gold has done great. Right now you can legally move your IRA or 401k or TSP into physical gold and silver. Don't let the Fed gamble with your Future. Text betting to 85545 now. That's Benny to 85545 now. Do it today. Get your free copy of the 2025 Gold and Silver report before the Fed's next move potentially sends metals even higher. Now, ladies and gentlemen, we have some wonderful people joining us from the road. Our next member of Congress who is on the program is Nicole Malliotakis. She's great. She's from the state of New York. I don't know if she'll be joining us from a Patriot Mobile device, but Patriot Mobile is obviously our partner when it comes to locking in from the road. We were fighting. Not really fighting. I was getting my ass kicked by a UFC fighter yesterday. We've posted a couple of times from there. That was a cool experience, Klein. That was like fun. That was fun to go to fight club. But the best part was the interview. It was amazing. Ladies and gentlemen, Patriot Mobile keeping us locked in from the road. The only Christian conservative wireless provider. Make sure that we are locked and loaded. You hear Me talk about them a lot, but that's because they're like the backbone of the whole show. Mobile hotspots, unlimited data plan, international roaming and Internet backup. Switching is easy. Take a stand today. Go to patriotmobile.com Benny call 972 Patriot and use the promo code Benny for a free month of service. That's patriotmobile.com Benny call 972patriot and make the switch today. Okay, ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the program. Nicole Maliatakis from the great state of New York. We'll talk about some communism in New York. Let's go. Congresswoman, I know it's the great state of New York. I'm sorry, I don't mean to, like, you know, I didn't mean to say that. Oh, maybe I did offend her. I'm not sure. Did I offend you? I. My apologies. I, I apologize. Just going to talk about Kami Mandani and aoc. So I don't know, it looks like we might have had a. Might have had a technical error, technical glitch with the congresswoman. We'll see if we can't pop her back on and lock it in. We're in the green, in the green room. Green room there. Okay, let's see, let's just, let's just go ahead and see if the Congresswoman. Oh, all right. To the green room. Thank you. To the green room. Let's rock and roll. And hopefully they. I know our best in class production team can help her get set. We had a sideways, we had a sideways shot there. Or ladies and gentlemen, guys, just like, tell me if it's, tell me if it's good or if this. Or if Senator Rand Paul. Either, either way we can go to either one. Senator Rand Paul or the congresswoman. Okay. Hillary Clinton's having a freak out right now over President Trump making the White House great again. President Trump is crashing out on Barack Obama's library. That's one of my favorite. That's my favorite clip from. This is my favorite clip from yesterday. Donald Trump saying that Obama's library just sucks. And it does suck, man. We've gone there, we videotaped it, we've done videos. It is one of the most hideous buildings ever. It's called brutalist architecture. Can you show a photo of it, please? It's called brutalist architecture and it's like the, the architecture of the communists and it's just not good. It's a lot of cement, a lot of heavy building materials and just doesn't. We've actually did a Full. We had that loaded. We did a full side by side of what the difference between this and what Donald Trump built. No, guys, we need the actual, like, I want the open for our comparison between the two buildings. No, no, no. Because that's what Trump does. You have the length of this clip to go find it. Here we go. Here's President Trump dunking on the Obama Library.

E (48:15)

You're building your ballroom right now.

B (48:16)

They're also building the Obama Presidential Library.

A (48:19)

I'm wondering if you've seen.

E (48:21)

Have you seen pictures of the architecture and.

F (48:23)

Yeah, I do. So too pretty. But it's closed. It stopped. They ran out of money. Means building a library slash museum. You know, you call it some museum and usually they call both. They call it library and museum. That's the official name. And they're stuck. And he wanted only women in DEI to build it. Well, that's what they got. And the construction workers are standing out there and saying, we want to be able to build it. You know, you have great. I built a great building in Chicago, as you know, a big beautiful building, one of the tallest buildings in the country. And we got it built very quickly, very well. And we use the construction workers of Chicago. They're great workers, they're great construction people. And I suggest that he get them involved. But they're hundreds of millions of of dollars over budget and I think it stopped. I'm reading these terrible stories, but that's the way our country was run under President Obama, too. Nobody knew it.

A (49:27)

President Trump talking about his beautiful building in Chicago. Has President Trump seen our video? Have we sent this to the administration? We literally did. We literally did this. Let's go. We literally. Holmes, we. Not one. We did the video. Presidential hours. One is. Welcome to Chicago, home to not one, but two presidential towers. One is a magisterial gleaming skyscraper of glass and steel, renowned the world over. An engineering marvel. We're on top of it right now. It's the Trump Tower, baby. Dope, dope. I love this house. Good afternoon and welcome. Welcome to the Trump Chicago. Zip, zip, zip, zip. And one is Obama's library. Where are we going? Oh, no. Get your bulletproof vests. What's up, guys? It's Benny. We are here on Chicago's south side. Behind us, the Obama Presidential Library, soon to be completed. It's almost done.

C (50:30)

Yes.

A (50:31)

That is what it's going to look like when it's finished. Some people are calling it the world's most expensive toll booth. What they're really looking at is brutalist architecture. The chosen Architecture of Marxist regimes throughout the world. This is the style of architecture that is cement. It's heavy, it's blocky. It's meant to oppress you, not to lift you up. Now, why would Barack Obama choose this style of architecture for his library and his legacy? I'll let you decide. What we're going to do today is ask the people who live around the library what they think think of it and what they think it looks like. Will you be visiting? Let's freaking go. Join us today on a tour. So we did it. Alex. This is my, you know, we, like, put the show together kind of live. We like a constant conversation with the team. Make sure that we send that to the White House. President Trump literally just. I don't know if Trump's shared that video yet, but we should. We should send that. Send it to Scavino. Let's send it today and say, yo, we saw that Trump compared his tower in Chicago to Obama's tower in Chicago. Maybe he'd like this. Just a thought. Anyway, we've done it. Ladies and gentlemen. Our producers are telling me that they are working right now on our next two guests, which would be Rand Paul or Nicole, Molly Takis. But either one is our excellent members of Congress. We're just getting some of the technical difficulties hammered out. You know, there's a government shutdown and so on going on right now, and maybe then perhaps that's affecting the capacity to join the show. That's what we're going to say. We're going to say that. And any show that we criticize the Communist Party of China, any show that we criticize the commies in China, they shut down the show. It happens every time. Every time that we lead by going after the commies in China. The show. There's glitches on the show. We think that's what it is. We do. We think that's what it is. All right, ladies and gentlemen, as we await my. My product, my production team is telling me that they're working right now.

B (52:41)

Working.

A (52:42)

Right now in order to figure out what's. What's next. Guys. Klein, you just got to let me know, okay? I'm just gonna. We're just gonna keep rip roaring here. Hillary Clinton melts down over Trump's big, beautiful White House ballroom. Now, I was just at the White House. It was incredible. We were there for Charlie Kirk's Medal of Freedom ceremony, and we stood inside of this brand new Rose Garden. What's the difference? Well, the Rose Garden isn't a soggy disaster anymore. It's a soggy mess. I've been to the White House thousands of times. Not because I'm important, because I used to work there. I was like a White House. I would cover the White House. You'd sign up to go cover press events. Occasionally you'd get invited to things. It kind of depends on where we were in our career. But I did live in D.C. for 10 years, and so, you know, got a chance to go to the White House for various things and you would stand in the Rose Garden and it was a nightmare. It was a soggy disaster. It was just a mud pit, effectively the whole Rose garden. So you've heard me talk about blackout coffee for a long time now, and there's a reason for that. It's not just the coffee. It's about what this company stands for. Hard work, grit, the American dream. A little over six years ago, blackout coffee started in a home garage, roasting small batches with one mission. Make damn good coffee without compromising on values. Fast forward to today and they're roasting in house, packing every single bag themselves and shipping straight out of their 64,000 square foot facility run by a team of over 30 hardworking Americans. This is why I drink blackout coffee. It just tastes like real coffee. I drink my coffee black and I love having the caffeine to fight the communists. And you know what this is? Premium small batch roasted coffee made right here in America. It's the best coffee out there and it's a company that supports what you are building. It stands for something. It stands for stands for hard work, American values. And it actually tastes good. Ladies and gentlemen. Go to blackoutcoffee.com Benny. Use the code Benny for 20% off your first order. Support the American Dream. Drink Blackout. That's blackoutcoffee.com Benny, stop settling. Start drinking real coffee. President Trump making it so that you could stand there or be seated, people could be seated there accurately was awesome. And then they saw the giant Trump flag poles. And now President Trump is redoing the east wing of the White House, which is just like a non functional wing of the White House. Nobody ever did anything in the east wing. It's where that teeny little theater was that nobody ever used. It was like goofy little theater and like a bunch of like dingy old rooms that. No, again, nobody used. It was for the first lady. Whatever. This is a long tradition of presidents being able to change the White House. Something that constantly happens. There's a whole thread on it. I think it's right here. Yeah, There you go. I think it's right here. White House ballroom continues proud presidential legacy. You can see here. How do you think you get the modern day White House? Every single president has demoed the White House and has gone through and rebuilt it. Every president has done something to the White House. Some of them do full scale demolitions. Some of them do full scale rehabilitations. It is an incredibly old house. It's hundreds of years old. Some people, if you scroll down the photos at the bottom here, Klein. Some people here, like in 1950s, Dwight Eisenhower gutted the entire home. This is the inside. There you go. This is the inside of the actual structure, what you would call the White House. The whole thing was ripped down, ripped, ripped limb to limb, brick to brick, and torn down from the inside. Look at that. Oh, no. Our sacred democracy. Look what Trump's doing to Eisenhower. Anyway, President Trump tore down a relatively unusable wing of the White House and is now rebuilding it. And Hillary Clinton decided to shriek about it and to claim that President Trump is destroying the White House. You can see the photo here. This is a photo that looks like. Well, something you can see on hgtv, right, is a fixer upper. This is like every single. This is every episode of every HGTV show. They're just renovating a house. You do demo and then you rebuild. So it shouldn't be that alarming. But Hillary Clinton is saying, this is our house. It's your house. It's not his house. Okay, lady, I don't know if this is the bone you want to pick, so to speak.

D (57:14)

Is it?

A (57:16)

Is this the Hill that you are willing to die on, really? Because we, we like. We're all aware of how you and your family treated this house. We are fully aware of what y' all did inside of this house. And there are quite a few scandals in the Clinton White House. And some of those scandals have, of course, been revealed in reactions to this. Eric Trump, the ballroom will be spectacular, unlike your work in Haiti. Let's go ahead and cycle through these, shall we? Thank you. What destroyed it was your husband getting blowjobs in the Oval Office. Go back to Costco and hawk your fictional autobiography. Okay, thank you, James Woods. Clearly, it's clearly not your house. Says the gop. Okay, In a safe for work comment. Just a reminder that the Clintons stole hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of goods from the White House. They also sold the White House to the highest bidder. The Clintons sold the Lincoln Bedroom for hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of donations. Blue dress so on and so on. So, ladies and gentlemen, I think this is obviously an important moment, right. In order to sort of establish what Hillary Clinton's actual history was inside of the White House. And it's been great because I like that Clinton's as a punching bag, always good for a laugh. All right, Caroline Levitt defending the new ballroom. Here we go.

E (59:01)

And I believe there's a lot of fake outrage right now because nearly every single president who has lived in this beautiful White House behind me has made modernizations and renovations of their own. And in fact, presidents for decades in the modern time have quipped about how they wish they had and a larger event space here at the White House that can hold hundreds more people than the current East Room and state dining rooms can. In fact, President Obama notably complained that during his tenure, he had to hold a state visit on the South Lawn and get a very expensive tent. If you talk to journalists who have covered the White House for decades, as I do here every single day, they will also tell you that administration after administration have publicly and privately spoken about the need for a larger event space. So while many presidents have privately dreamt about this, it's President Trump who is actually doing something about it. And he is the builder in chief in large part. He was reelected back to this people's house because he's good at building things. He has done it his entire life, his entire career. And construction is a process. At the end, the East West Wing, which is an entirely separate structure from the executive mansion you see behind me, will be more modern and beautiful than ever. And then on top of that, the White House is going to have a big, beautiful ballroom for generations of Americans to come. And the best part of it all, it's not a dime of the taxpayers money. The president has worked hard to privately fund this entire project from start to finish.

A (60:35)

Yeah, they'd be. That's kind of remarkable, actually. I think that our next guest will like that. Somebody who's clearly a fiscal hawk, somebody who doesn't like our national debt and views as potentially the greatest threat to America and our future and our children's future is Senator Rand Paul, who joins the show live right now. Senator, welcome to the program. It's an honor to have you.

C (61:12)

Thanks for having me.

A (61:14)

So President Trump paying for the renovations at the White House, good news.

C (61:19)

You know, I'm not losing a lot of sleep over it, I would say, when I rank my 10 top 10 worries for the country each night. The ballroom construction is not on the list.

A (61:30)

Okay, Hillary Clinton, does she have any grounds to actually criticize this, given her history at the White House?

C (61:35)

You know, the Clintons are the gift that keeps on giving. There is no end to Clinton stories, Clinton scandals, and ridiculous statements from them. So I'm happy to take a chuckle and listen to anything about the Clintons anytime I have a little extra time.

A (61:50)

All right. All right. Someone that you're not happy to listen to when he testifies is John Brennan. I'm sure that you're very happy that the House referred CIA Director John Brennan to the DOJ for criminal prosecution over false statements about the Steele dossier. False statements to Congress. I think some of those false statements were to you, Senator, if I am.

C (62:12)

Recalling this correctly, we know I have a general sort of opposition to how much power we've given the intelligence agencies to spy on Americans in particular and to spy indiscriminately. I think this spying power was used on President Trump in 2016. The FISA warrants, these are Foreign Intelligence Service warrants that are basically not consistent with the Fourth Amendment of the Constitution. It's a much lower standard, they say, association with a foreign government. So some of the people who worked in his campaign, they alleged, were associated with the foreign governments. They just got wide and expansive powers. So I'm against the power, in just in general of how much power to spy on Americans. But more specifically, the individual characters like Brennan, Clapper, Bolton, others are examples of the people who get attracted to this kind of power, like Moss to flame, they come. And I guess the weakness of humans to submit to or to succumb to the allure of power is evident by people like Brennan, people like Clapper, who do lie, who do spy on Americans, who do take that power and abuse it. And really, one of the most egregious things is that they're still allowed to be talking heads on television. So both Clapper, Brennan and a whole host of others signed a statement saying that the laptop, that Hunter Biden's laptop was basically a Russian hoax. And yet they still are allowed in polite society. People think they should have access to our nation's secrets. The Democrats would bring them back into power if they were to win the White House again. That is particularly galling. So I think Brennan's getting his just desserts. I spoke for 13 hours. My first filibuster in the Senate in 2013 was against John Brennan. So I had no love lost for the guy.

A (64:05)

So it is. It does seem wild that the people who are being indicted right now, James Comey, for instance, Leticia, James These people are law enforcement that James Clapper, John Brennan, these are the people that were the most trusted with America's secrets and the implementation of law enforcement. They're at the very least, being indicted for criminal activity. And that should send a little shit down all of our spines.

C (64:33)

And I think it's just. But then there's also the problem of too much power being legislated or delegated to these people in general. So the biggest fight we've had in the last 10 years was over the FISA database is they suck up all this information. Now, foreigners don't have constitutional rights in other countries, so I don't really care what information we get. But if they talk to an American, my information in that database should get Fourth Amendment protection. So we put forward a warrant requirement that if the government want to search for an American in the FISA court documents that have been gobbled up from all around the world, they would have to have a warrant. They would have to have a Fourth Amendment warrant. They can't just search it right now. They can pretty much search and do what they want for all kinds of crimes not related to terrorism, potential domestic crimes, or political enemies. So we had this vote, and I don't know if you remember, this was about three or four years ago. Mike Johnson was the deciding vote, and he voted against the warrant requirement. It failed on a 212 to 212 vote. And so it's, I think, ironic because sometimes people criticize me for not being a big enough or 100% supporter of everything the President wants. But there's nobody in Congress that is more for getting rid of the abuse of power that they used to go after Donald Trump. And that was the FISA court, this secret court, foreign intelligence court, that went after Donald Trump. They abused him. People like Brown, Brenner, and Clapper were the ones directing it. But take that power away will never happen again. Mike Johnson, who you know is now the President's friend, was the guy who voted against the reform. He killed the reform in the house, 212 to 212. And so these are the battles we should be having instead of the petty battles where people say, oh, Rand Paul doesn't support the President enough. No one supports reforming the intelligence community and these abusive powers of John Brennan more than me. It's about any president. We shouldn't let the American government spy on Americans.

A (66:37)

Yes, it sounds like. We apologize. There's a to. There's like a small. There's a small glitch. Are you hearing that, too, Klein? Yeah, Anyway, whatever. Whenever we talk about the Communist Party, China, when we talk about government spying, there's always some type of glitch in the live stream, whatever. We hear you loud and clear, Senator. We've also read the stories that there's senators that were being spied on in Operation Arctic Frost and that your colleagues were having their data being scooped up by the FBI just for investigating this. This is very Orwellian stuff. Can you give us an update on that, Senator?

C (67:12)

Yeah. The irony is that a couple of the senators and I won't mention any names, but Lindsey Graham have been ones who have been in favor of this spying. They've been in favor of indiscriminate spying and he has always voted against any restrictions on spying on Americans. And now it turns out he became the victim of a spying campaign directed by the Biden people. So I wrote an op ed on this. It was published about a week ago and I looked at the Carpenter case. The Carpenter case was decided by the Supreme Court saying that your location data where you are on your phone, like right now, if your location services on people can snoop, they can call the phone company and find out exactly where you are every moment of every day. The Supreme Court ruled that that information actually deserves fourth Amendment protections. So there's two different ways you can get information. One is a subpoena, like a grand jury subpoena or an administrative subpoena. It requires just relevance to an investigation. They can get anything they want. The court said, well, your corporate business returns or business accounts isn't really yours anymore. You keep it at the bank. You don't have a personal interest in that. But the court in Carpenter said your geolocation does. This is a long way of getting back to the spying on Lindsey Graham and the others is they looked at their geo location with a subpoena from a grand jury. This is Jake Smith. I think it was an abuse of power, but I also think it was illegal under the Constitution. So I've encouraged them to sue. Now I think they should sue the phone company because I think the phone company ought to be liable for not protecting their privacy. This is an open ended question, but I think they all should sue. And there are rumblings that some of them might sue. It's harder to sue the government. But I think what Jake Smith did under Jack Smith, what Jack Smith did under this was an abuse of power, but I think unconstitutional also and it needs to be pursued or this kind of nefarious spying on senators and congressmen will happen again.

A (69:14)

I mean, Senator Isn't this like what Nixon was impeached for? Right, Like Nixon had to leave office because spying on, you know, he's spying on political opposition. Wasn't this like the biggest scandal so called in American history?

C (69:27)

Unfortunately, the bar has gotten so, so low that, I mean, government's expected to do bad things and nobody blinks an eye anymore and then the other side is told, oh, well, it was just going after Trump and they hate Trump so much that they really see beyond the abuses. Now on the reform of fisa, though, we did get beyond politics, that was a mixture of libertarian Republicans and civil libertarian left leaning Democrats who came together and we almost had it. We were one vote shy until the speaker of the House, Mike Johnson came forward and voted to keep or not to have a warrant for, for a search of FISA to let them to continue to search the FISA database willy nilly and potentially search it for political opponents. And I think that's what they did to Donald Trump in 2016.

A (70:15)

You know, some people watching this are going to say, like, why, why do Republicans vote with the deep state? And there have been many members of Congress that have been on the show, some from your region of the world, Tennessee. Tim Burchett's a good example of this, who've said, like, the reason they vote that way is because they're compromised and that they, that someone from the deep state either shows them a photo, they don't want out, or there's something like that that explains some level of leverage that they have over them and they're able to maintain power and control in that manner. And do you, do you, do you agree with that? Do you see any of that, Senator?

C (70:53)

Yeah, I don't think it's so much. Could that be happening? Maybe, but I think most of it is philosophic. So, for example, you know, I know Lindsey well and actually like him personally, but don't agree with a lot of the policies. He would simply argue that we got to be fast, we got to go after terrorism and we got to be able to, you know, maybe some Americans are going to get caught up in this thing, but we got to have expansive power to protect the country and that we need it for national defense. I don't know if his opinion will change now that he's been scooped up in the intelligence world, but I've always said you can have both. For example, if you want to spy on everybody in Libya, I don't care, frankly. That's foreign relations. Foreign affairs, it may not be good for relations with that country if they know you're spying on every phone call. But there is no constitutional protection for Libyans in Libya. There is for Americans in America. And we should be very, very cautious not to let the government snoop on all of our personal phone calls, our metadata, our geolocation. But as far as foreigners, you can. So I think you can spy on people outside the country or attacks coming from within. I think if you have people in the country who have gotten here and you think they're plotting against country, it's not that hard to actually get warrants. Most time judges do grant warrants, but you have to present some evidence. And I think you could still do that. But what happens now is the FISA database is so huge, they say, Well, I think Mr. Jones is a drug dealer. I don't have any proof, but why don't I search the FISA database, find out where he is all the time, then start investigating him. Then back door, I get information that he's a drug dealer or he's committing tax fraud. And you say, well, those are bad people. We're going after bad people. The problem is we have the Fourth Amendment for both good and bad people. The Fourth Amendment says the government has to present probable cause. There's a standard, and the FISA court doesn't have that standard. Its standard is they can collect anything they want as long as it has some association of a person with a foreign government. But it could be. I talked to a reporter in Washington who also is stationed in the Middle east some of the time, who talks to an informant from Hamas. Well, now I'm two hops away from Hamas, even though I've never ever talked to anybody in Hamas. Does that give the government the right to spy on my phone calls? Because I talk to a legitimate reporter who happens to talk to a contact in the Middle east who happens to be a terrorist. And so we can't allow that. And we have to be much more strict on defending civil liberties. But I'm hoping this new and latest buying scandal will motivate some people who haven't been on our side, like Senator Graham, who maybe he will be more motivated to take a look at the abuse of FISA and the abuse of these spying powers.

A (73:31)

Yeah, Senator, it has been weaponized. And I don't want to belabor the point here. I know I've asked three questions about this. But before we switch topics, quickly, the only phone that it seems like they couldn't spy on was the January six pipe bomber. Have you ever found that strange?

C (73:45)

We never heard Any more about it. You would think in our era with all the cameras out there, somebody would have seen him or I guess they did have some pictures of him.

A (73:53)

He was on the phone, Senator. He was sitting there on the phone right next to the Capitol.

C (73:57)

You know, you would think of these on phone and with a warrant you could find out geolocation probably of who was standing in that position. There probably were four or five phones. I mean, how hard would it be to find the person who was on that phone? I would think you would be able to do that with geolocation data, with a warrant, of course. But nothing ever happened to that, so I don't know.

A (74:20)

Nothing ever happens. Yes, that's right. Nothing ever happens. Something happened with you and Dr. Fauci is a remarkable clip that we've played probably hundreds of times on this program. You're the only senator in history to have gotten Dr. Fauci to shake. I've seen this guy on TV 100,000 times.

C (74:40)

He's.

A (74:40)

I've seen him tell bald faced lies to the American public. I've seen him ask for double and triple masking. I've seen him say some of the most, you know, batshit crazy things I've ever heard anyone say on television. And he never shakes. Except for here in this exchange with you where you're asking about gain of function and you can see his hand physically quivering. You can see Dr. Fauci physically shaking. You know, that's a tell, that's an autonomic nervous system tell. You're a doctor and these are like things that there it is. Pretty remarkable. You've referred Dr. Foushee for criminal prosecution to the DOJ. I just love to get your overall assessment, one, of this remarkable clip. Why is he shaking? And then two, what, what's going to happen to Dr. Fauci?

C (75:26)

Well, the, the exchange where he does lie to Congress is over gain of function. This is where you take two different viruses, combine them or combine the genetics for them, and you create a new virus that doesn't exist in nature, that increases its transmissibility to people or its infectiousness or its lethality to people. And he's saying, no, no, we never funded this in Wuhan. They did fund it and it was gain of function. We now have private emails that were discovered through foia, Freedom of Information act that showed that he knew that he had done this. And so the reason I think he's shaking is he's concerned because he's been caught in a lie and we're not done. I referred him twice for criminal prosecution in the Biden administration. I've referred him once for criminal prosecution to the Trump doj. We have worked with the Trump administration and finally gotten every document, just about every document you can imagine. We've been going through these for months now. We found evidence that he destroyed federal records and he directed others to destroy federal records. These are separate crimes. Now, there is a question whether or not his pardon will cover that. And we've asked him to come and testify and people say, well, why do you ask him? Why don't you make him? Because the way the process works is you ask people first and if they will testify, then you don't have to subpoena them. If you do have to go to a subpoena, then there may well be a court challenge. And we have another battle that we have to fight, fight as well. So right now there is. We have asked him for information about his conversations and his use of non governmental means of communication to do federal work. And we're going to look at what he, what he gives to us in the next week or two. We're going to see if he will voluntarily come in and testify. But if he doesn't, we will subpoena him. So our hope is that we get a voluntary appearance, but at the very least, he's going to have to answer our questions concerning gain of function but also destruction of records. If you'll recall, when they brought in one of his colleagues, David Morenz, who worked with him at the nih, Fauci act like, oh, never knew him, hardly ever saw him. We have dozens and dozens of emails over years between the two. And Morens was the one who said, oh, yeah, we had this FOIA lady over there who taught us how to avoid searches and requests. So what they do is they take like, there was a virologist by the name of Christian Anderson who got an $8 million grant from Fauci after he supported Fauci's request to write an article saying that this couldn't have come from a lab, it had to come from nature. What they did with Anderson's name is it had a bunch of S's in it. They changed the S's into dollar signs so they wouldn't show up on a foyer search. What I think is ironic about it is he was out there looking for money and shilling for money all the time up here. So they changed the S's in his name to dollar sign to avoid FOIA searches. There are a lot of shenanigans going on Things that really, you talk about Watergate or you talk about scandals, they all pale. The COVID cover up. I wrote a whole book on this deception, the great Covid cover up. Because there's never been a cover up. More thoroughly documented. Because we got most of their conversations, we got most of their emails, and we've seen them behind the scenes saying, oh my goodness. I'm pretty certain this looks like it was manipulated in a lab and came from a lab and not nature. Almost simultaneously they're saying in public, no way. You're a crazy conspiracy theorist if you think it came from a lab. So publicly, saying one thing in privately, the other probably so remarkable to ever catch somebody in such a cover up.

A (79:10)

I know that you have to run, Senator, but just to put an end cap on this as a follow up, since you literally wrote the book on it and have asked the best questions on it, what was Dr. Fauci trying to cover up? Like, was he trying to cover up the Eco Health alliance funding of this research? Was he trying to cover up? Do you believe that he has culpability in actually releasing this virus? What if you could delay your next two mortgage payments? That's right. Imagine putting those two payments in your pocket and finally getting a little breathing room ahead of the holidays. It's possible. When you call American Financing today, if you're feeling stretched by everyday expenses, groceries, gas, bills piling up, you're not alone. Most Americans are putting these expenses on credit cards. And credit card rates are insane. They're in their 20s or even 30s. American financing can show you how to use your home's equity to pay off that debt at rates in the low fives. Their salary based mortgage consultants are helping homeowners just like you, restructure their loans and save money every single month without upfront fees. Their customers are saving an average of $800 a month and that's like a $10,000 raise without having to change jobs. Call now before it's too late. American financing. 888-528-1219. That's 888-528-1219americanfinancing.net Benny do you believe that this was meant to rig the election and destroy the MAGA rallies and Trump's economic victories in 2020? Do you believe this was a bioweapon?

C (80:31)

I probably wouldn't go that far. What I would say is that he was trying to protect the business of science. So science, we want to think that the scientists that work in cancer research want to cure cancer and they should win the Nobel prize and that they're noble people and honorable people. But there's also the business of science, and it's run by billions and billions of dollars. Anthony Fauci was the head of. Of the business of science ever since 9 11. After 9 11, we became more concerned with biological warfare. So we directed billions and billions of dollars into biological warfare research, ostensibly to defend against it. But there was a lot of things being experimented upon that actually could either be for defense or could be for offense, because many things are dual use. But he became in charge of all that money. Now, if it became known that a virus that killed 15, 18 million people, which Covid did around the world, if it became known that he knew about it and didn't provide oversight and that there were safety lapses because this was done in an unsafe lab in China that doesn't have the same safety protocols and that he approved it, then he would have culpability and that the business of science might get less money. People might say, well, maybe we shouldn't put billions of dollars of research into creating viruses that don't exist in nature that might kill us. All that doubt. And that problem is why he had to vehemently deny it. But he also didn't want to face culpability for those deaths. Frankly, he shares some culpability. Now, I don't go so far as to say, oh, we tried to do it on purpose. He tried to kill people. No, I think it was an accident. I think the leak from the lab was not purposeful, but was accidental. But you still, you know, if you preside over an accident that kills 18 million people and you're an air traffic controller and two planes run into each other and hundreds of people die, you're no longer the air traffic controller. One of the punishments is, and it doesn't mean you are necessarily an evil person, but you made a horrific error. Fauci made the largest error in modern medicine and in public health policy probably ever of someone. And for that, he deserves the rebuke of history. But he also deserves never to be in a position, nor should his lieutenants be in a position of managing any of our taxpayer money again, because they made such a profound mistake to fund dangerous research in Wuhan without adequate safety that led to the deaths of 18 million people.

A (83:00)

A beautiful answer. I can tell that you've written the book on this, senator. And also something that I think people need to internalize, which is that either through incompetence or malevolence, it really doesn't matter. There Are tens of millions of people dead because of an experiment that went. That went right or wrong, either way, it just doesn't matter. The results are there, and they're. They're totally and completely unacceptable and indefensible. And. Yeah, why is Fauci allowed in polite society? I don't know. I don't know. Rand Paul is, though. Rand Paul is right here. He's got six men million subscribers on X. You should be one of them. On a parting note, 1 to 10, how's RFK doing, Senator? If we're talking about the health establishment in the country, nine.

C (83:45)

I think he's doing great. I tell people that organized medicine needs a kick in the pants and that there are many things that need to be reevaluated. Number one on the vaccines. There's no benefit for the COVID vaccine for children. 0. No evidence, no experimental evidence, no scientific study. And there is evidence of harm. I think the risks of the COVID vaccine for children outweigh the benefits. There's also no reason, if the mom does not have hepatitis, to do hepatitis B vaccine at birth. These are two things that I know with certainty and I will continue to fight. And I think we need to change, at the very least those two things in the vaccine schedule. I'm not for saying we get rid of all the vaccines or anything like that. There are two vaccines we give children that don't need to be done, and I'm going to continue fighting that until we fix that problem.

A (84:36)

Thank you, Senator. I know you have an ally with RFK Jr. At HHS, and that must be really comforting to you. Maybe for the first time in our lives, we have an ally in that fight. Thank you, Senator, so very much for your time, for your insight. Again, follow Rand Paul right here. Again. Thank you, Senator. Godspeed.

C (84:53)

Thank you.

A (85:01)

All right, ladies and gentlemen, thank you for sticking with us. You have. There was like this funny feedback loop. Was there not like where there was like a little. There's like a little ding, ding, ding. The show's live. I'm promising shows live. We, you know, we've had some back and forth today, but it is what it is. When you have a show that requires your full attention, make sure that you are full of caffeine. Blackout coffee is my caffeine. Every single day. I drink my blackout coffee, my blackout coffee, and my blackout coffee mug literally right here is totally empty. I have drank a pot of coffee. I have a problem. I really do. I have a caffeine problem. It's totally empty. Damn good coffee. It's just made for Americans. Made for Americans that want to work hard, want to get up, start the day is right, and then they want to dump a bunch of energy drink chemicals into your bloodstream. Go all natural with the beautiful small batch roast made right here in the US Of A by patriots in Florida who are doing just the Lord's work and keeping our show going, giving me the energy to rock and roll today. If you believe in hard work at American values, this blackout coffee all the way. Blackout Coffee.com Benny. Use the code Benny for 20% off your first order. Support the American Dream. Drink Blackout. It's Blackout Coffee.com. benny. Stop settling and drink real coffee. All right, ladies and gentlemen, I want to talk more about this John Brennan referral to the DOJ by Jim Jordan. I believe that we have Congresswoman Nicole Maliatakis on the program and she's been very patient. We've worked through a small technical error as tends to happen when you're live. And she joins us live now. Congresswoman, we appreciate your time and thank you for your patience today.

B (86:54)

Well, I'm glad we got over that communist China hack.

A (86:59)

That's what I say every day. It works. It totally works. It's a line I use every single time. It's a total dad joke. But it's probably true, actually. Every time we talk about communism in China or in New York, which I like to chat about the show, the show goes all haywire on us. Whatever probably is what it is. And what is happening in New York City, it looks like the Empire City and the Empire State, the center of capitalism in the world, will be run by a communist. That's a little strange.

B (87:30)

Well, we're still hoping that that's not going to happen. I think there's still an opportunity to stop the, this train of destruction that is coming our way. Look, I think the more people learn about Kami Mandani, the more that they're willing to go out there and not only reject him, but educate others about what's going on. And in the last few weeks, people are really learning some dangerous things. Look, not only is he somebody who pals around with socialists and communists, but he's hanging out with these radical extremist imams, going so far to hang out with a guy and smoke smiling and taking selfies with somebody who actually not only defended but raised money to defend the convicted plotters of the 1993 World Trade center bombing that killed six people here in New York City. And so I think as people are learning more about this Guy and his policies. I think he's going to be rejected. I think there's going to be a surprise here at the last minute. We may get stuck with Andrew Cuomo quite frankly, which you know is very bad. And I don't think there's many people who like him. In fact, his favorables are very high. But if it becomes down to between him and Kami Mandani, I think we rather get stuck with at least the devil that you know versus the devil you don't know.

A (88:42)

I tell you what man, there it is. Madame poses with terrorist sympathizers and people who helped fund terrorism in New York. All the never forget. All the, all the people opposed to never forget. Like they forgot. It's wild. It's very sad. An interesting poll out saying that Mandami's support is actually from foreign born New Yorkers and that the Nate that native born New Yorkers all support Cuomo. A kind of a, kind of a shocking reality for New York which sort of like become a globalist city. It's not really New York anymore actually. Obviously you put this up. This is a great. These are the people that are supporting this movement. They're straight up saying they're socialists. They're straight up saying we're socialists and we're communists. You sort of circled the funding here. It's kind of a wild thing to.

C (89:36)

See.

A (89:38)

They'Re being out front with it.

B (89:40)

So there's two points here. One, we sued to stop non citizens from voting in New York City elections and we actually were successful. This is something went to court three times. We went to the Supreme Court, the appellate court and then the Court of Appeals, the highest court, which of course is Democrat appointees. And we still won. And we stopped non citizens from voting in what would have been this election. This would have. So that is huge. Imagine what the polling would be had we not won that legal battle. Number two, what I can't understand is there's millions of socialism and communism here in New York. Whether it's Russia or Poland or Nicaragua, Venezuela, China, my mother fled communist Cuba. Why would these people entertain voting for Zohran Mandani who wants to bring those very policies they fled to New York City and to the country. Remember, he wants to seize the means of production. He wants to abolish private property rights. He wants to take over supermarkets and have them government, Iran, these are all things out of the communist playbook of Karl Marx. So I think as we're getting that out there and educating people about is it is you're going to see his, I think leading up to, leading to the election, you're going to see his poll numbers dropping. At least that's what I'm hoping is going to happen.

A (90:57)

One of the things that was kind of remarkable and if you're looking for things that are indefensible in 2025, obviously defunding the police, ripping down Christopher Columbus statues and so on. But something that I don't think that we've seized enough on is his campaign platform to tax white people more. It seems like our show is the only show that actually like has read through his entire platform. But he says, I want to tax wider neighborhoods, which is a wild thing to say. Harmeet Dillon's been on the program saying it's obviously an illegal thing to say. You can't say these things. But here it is a policy on his website. How do you defend, how exactly do you defend this? And also, like, if New Yorkers vote for this, are we the baddies, you know, like, like, have they just like resorted to sexual essentially, like racial punishment in the country?

B (91:55)

Yeah, yeah, it's really mind boggling because if it was the reverse and you had somebody saying they wanted to tax black neighborhoods, what would happen then the outrage. So this is, this is completely ludicrous. And this is the thing. This guy doesn't even want people to own property. It's not even about. He wants to tax the white people who own property, but he doesn't even want people to own property. He actually made a video for his campaign saying that he was going to slowly buy up private property and turn them into communes. That's really what he wants to do. And he's laying it out right for you. He's not even hiding it. So, so look, and I have to say, I represent Staten island and southern Brooklyn. We are a diverse community, majority Caucasian, but we pay the highest property taxes in the city already. So the fact that he would want to come to my neighborhood and taxes even more to pay for this radical communist agenda, New York City, our budget is more or is the same as the entire state of Florida. Think about that. That is insane. So just this city alone, where we have half the population of the state of Florida, where you have the same budget to run this city and they're running it into the ground. You don't even have the basic things that you expect. They won't hire cops. We're down 7,000 cops from where we were on September 11, 2001. Here's a guy who says not only does he want to defund the police, but he's going to drive them out of our city. He's not going to replace them. He doesn't think there's jails. Jails have a purpose in our society. He wants to legalize prostitution. He wants to abolish ice. These are really crazy, radical policies. So I think I'm hoping that New Yorkers will see this and they'll wake up before election day.

A (93:40)

So then what message does this send? Let's say that he does become the mayor of New York. You're already seeing quite. You brought up Florida a couple times there. You know, I broadcast from Florida. I moved from the very left wing east coast. I lived in Washington, D.C. and I moved down to Florida. And it's been greatest move my life. I think you're seeing like there's, there's a lot of other places where people can move. Are you going to see that out of New York? According to the census data, New York's already going to lose perhaps a couple of congressional seats. Is this going to expedite that?

B (94:13)

Well, that's exactly what's going to happen. I mean, the reason why Lee Zeldin lost the governor's election couple of years ago was because those people fled to Florida. You saw the loss of Lee Zelda. What he lost by was equivalent to what Ron DeSantis gained. It was incredible, the comparison. And I think that's exactly what's going to happen here. We're hoping Jack Cittarelli at least makes it in New Jersey. Sadly, you'll see a lot of people go in there, but we'll lose our tax base not just from middle class, from the wealthy class, the business class. We're going to lose businesses to other states and that'll make it even harder. I mean, this is the thing, socialism doesn't work. And I don't know what it takes to get that through to the majority of New Yorkers. We're going to have to learn the hard way because sadly, that's what you see happening in other countries. That's what happened in Venezuela. They had to learn the hard way.

A (95:05)

Yeah, you hate to see it. Here's the actual. Here's the forecast of the map. Boy, I wonder which states are being run well, which states do people want to move to and which states are people fleeing? And this is just the forecast of the apportionment from the ap. But it's abysmal for blue states, especially for highly populated blue states like New York and California.

B (95:28)

Yeah, it turns out people don't like high crime and high taxes and wasteful spending and ridiculous government.

A (95:35)

Well, we hope that you run for mayor or governor or just Congress, period. Obviously, New York was the coalition that won the House for Republicans and so we're thankful for Republicans that stay in blue states and fight. It's actually been the trend of the show here with the voter ID in California and then going across country to New York. These are great American cities. I don't want them abandoned.

D (95:58)

Right.

A (95:58)

I don't want them to be destroyed. I don't want Chicago to be destroyed or San Francisco to be destroyed. You don't get another San Francisco, you can't make another New York. And so it's very sad, you know, it's very sad what happened. These cities are treasures for all of us to enjoy. And it's. Yeah, it's terrible when they, when they decay like this. We really like, hope actually that New York gets saved. We do.

B (96:20)

And so do I. I mean, I love this city. I was born here, grew up here. It is the city that my parents came to as immigrants because it was really where opportunity was. And we're going to see that American dream destroyed if we have somebody as rattling radical as Mandani get elected because he will just drive out the job creators, he'll drive out the cops and make us less safe. And like, this is a guy again who thinks that the idea of job creation is legalizing prostitution. I mean, how demeaning is that to women? So where are all the women in this election? Where are they? They think this is appropriate. I mean, come on, give me a break. It's like crazy. We're just gonna legalize every vice to get more tax revenue because they're gonna drive out legitimate businesses and middle class families.

A (97:01)

I mean, they know exactly what they're doing. You know, it's wild, it's incredible. He's like, you can see it. They just, they know exactly what they're doing. Congresswoman. And everyone follow the congresswoman. By the way, here's our count on X. She's got nearly 100,000 followers here and she's just one of the great fighters. And she's posing there with New York's finest in her cover photo and got the great, got the great infrastructure and bridges and buildings of New York behind her. It's a great city, doesn't deserve to be destroyed. But when they let criminals roam free, they know exactly what they're doing. There's the city's making a choice. They're making a choice against the family. They're making a choice against, like, family structure. I don't care how left wing you are, when you see a bum and some guy with a needle in his arm, like, like, like meandering towards you, you take your kids out of that park, you take your kids out of that area. This is exactly what happened to my family. You're going to move. They're going to get the good, the good people are going to flee and they're gonna be left to rule over the ashes. And I actually think, Congresswoman, that's what they want. It's a pure power play. It's despicable. It's very destructive. It's completely evil.

B (98:04)

That's what the socialists and communists want, for sure. They want to destroy our country. And how better to do it than to destroy the economic engine for the country, like you said, the center of capitalism. We can't let it happen. Guys, just get out there and talk to these New York and educate people about what Mandani stands for, because he will drive out the police, he will defund the police, he will have bring socialism to our supermarkets. By the way, that taking over supermarkets means, just like you want somebody telling you how many loaves of bread your family can have or how many rationed rice and beans your family can have. I mean, that, that is exactly what it is. And it leads to empty store shelves. I mean, just go to Cuba, Venezuela, and see exactly what that means. When government runs anything, it becomes, becomes a disaster.

A (98:46)

We did. It was crazy. One of the biggest black pills or white pills of my life, because then it helped me understand who we were fighting is. I, I went to Cuba and I filmed how the stores, of course, had lines around the blocks and they would have rations for people getting in there, for Cubans getting in. But all the shelves were just one brand. You know, there was no choice. It was just every, There was just one brand of bean, one brand of rice. And I posted that because I thought it was crazy. It looked like a scene out of like a North Korea movie. And libs, like completely ratioed me, saying, this is what we want and this is like in 2022. And they, they, like, they wrote, they ratioed me. They're like, this is my dream. My dream is to have only one brand of everything and the government control that brand. And they were being, they were being authentic, Congresswoman. They like, they loved it. They loved it.

B (99:37)

I'm sure the Trump administration could put you on one of those flights back to Venezuela if that's what people want. They can go as you know, they can take a ride there and live there.

A (99:46)

Amazing. Well, I mean, it's true. I mean, it's true. You got to look at the world with open eyes and that. And no, no candy paint. Like, go look at the world with open eyes. See that there are communists here. Some of them are voting in our elections. Some of them want to run our biggest cities, most powerful cities. And so constant vigilance. Please, everyone, follow the great congresswoman here from New York who's fighting the good fight behind enemy lines. Thank you, Congresswoman.

B (100:09)

Thank you, Benny.

A (100:16)

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D (101:55)

Let's go.

A (101:56)

Evil men do not understand justice, but those who seek the Lord understand it fully. Justice, man, justice. There's two forms of justice. There's the justice of your soul, where you forgive people as a Christian and you are right with God. Because we will all be judged by a perfect God. And all of us have fallen short. And it is only through Christ that we live. And then there is worldly justice that must be done by the state and the government of which God sets up and establishes. And that's rip roaring justice. That's the kind of justice that you should like demand is harsh and it punishes the criminal for the terror of the criminal and for the protection and preservation of good men. So ladies and gentlemen, that is the justice that we seek. We seek it with you as we march on to victory. Remember in the end we win. It's your boy Benny. See you. Welcome to my borrowed pocketry. So much democracy when you employer me you want to win your next erection I can hur you win your erection so much democracy.

D (103:35)

You you will win.

A (103:37)

With mar you put your batt in I take your battles I change them to to your name. That's what democracy all about in my the biggest ships in the sea all owned by the oldest kings and their dying legacy media dil me.

C (104:48)

Soon will.

A (104:48)

The Benny show come to mind it's all from lives for fun Be the gold and bring the gun we sail for number one Any show come to mind the salt from lids for fun Leave the gold and bring the gun we sail for number one the biggest ships in the sea all owned by.

D (105:27)

The oldest king.

A (105:38)

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