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DC in PANIC: John Bolton DRAGGED Into Federal Court LIVE Right Now in BIG Classified Docs Indictment, with Guests Brett Tolman and Rep. Mike Lawler
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Benny Johnson
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Mike Lawler
Yes.
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Benny Johnson
Thank you. It is October 17, 2025. My goodness. The time is rip roaring. John Bolton surrendering live to a federal courthouse in Washington, D.C. after the single most devastating indictment yet. It has been released and we will read through it with you. 18 counts, 180 years potentially facing. John Bolton in prison will be joined today by some legal experts, Brett Tolman, some congressional experts, Mike Lauer, and ladies and gentlemen, a mayor that wants to talk about communism, Scott Stringer from Boca Raton, who wants to say no to Commie Mandami, who was in a debate last night along with J. Jones, the Virginia attorney general. So I'm not going to conflate those. The mayoral debate for New York happened last night and the attorney general's debate for Virginia happened last night. We have clips from both of those. We're not going to a good place here in America. It's not great. We have communists trying to run our biggest cities and the cities that are our empire cities. That's not great. And then we have guys who want to kill and genocide Republicans potentially vying for the top law enforcement position inside of a populous state, an important state where half federal government resides. Not good. But we're going to lock in and talk about all of it. My name is Benny Johnson and this is show cold weather is here. Now in Tampa, that means like 70 degrees. My kids went running outside and said it's snowing because it was 70 degrees outside and it was like a little bit of a chill in the air. But wherever you may be, cold weather can certainly be a problem that leads to people having increased sedentary lives. Sitting inside the gray kind of like traps you on the couch. That's bad for your blood pressure. I use 120Life to make sure that I'm keeping my blood pressure in check. You know, half the country has high blood pressure. I'm part of that half the country. This is why 120 life is so essential for me every single day. It's a blend of five all natural ingredients that naturally lower your blood pressure. It's also been endorsed by thousands of doctors and you can see the measurable and visible results yourself. A simple monitor at home can track your progress. It also tastes great. My kids love it and my wife, who's a very picky nurse, it is approved by her. You should try for a limited time 120 life and save 20% off. Just use the code Benny at checkout. Go to 120life.com that's 120L I F E.com and use the code BENNY to save 20%. Nothing to lose except your high blood pressure. Get this special offer right now. Use the code Benny. Okay. Ladies and gentlemen, it's amazing the time that we are living in. We are living in the f aroundest of times and the find outing is of times. And I personally believe that it is the most entertaining thing that has happened over the past nine months that those communists who accused Donald Trump of crimes are guilty of the crimes in which they are accusing Donald Trump. It is the iron law of wokeism. It is actually part of Saul Alinsky's plan. It is actually part of the Communist Manifesto. Every Bolshevik that has ever lived practiced this. We're. We're against the bourgeois because they're going to genocide us. And then the bullshits go on to genocide half the population. Right? Like we're against the capitalists because they're.
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Mike Lawler
Here to kill you.
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Benny Johnson
And then the communists will go and kill half the population right now. Kills 60 million people. They will accuse you of the crimes of which they are guilty. Now, we found this out with Letitia James. Letitia James accused Donald Trump real estate and mortgage crimes. And it turns out that she has now been caught cold committing those exact same crimes, but far worse than Donald Trump ever committed them. She's been indicted for that. James Comey went after General Flynn, Donald Trump for lying to Congress, for lying under oath, for lying to the federal government and FBI. James Comey indicted for that exact same thing. Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton and John Brennan and James Clapper. They're in very hot water because of what they did. Launching the Russia collusion hoax, raiding Donald Trump's house and so on and so forth. It turns out that they've hoaxed themselves directly into some real legal trouble. And we hear that that's going to be heating up quite quickly. Interesting little birdies tell us this. But ladies and gentlemen, today we are going to talk about John Bolton. Because John Bolton was one of those guys who worked beside Donald Trump and then Backstabbed him. And these are the worst type of vermin. I, I set loyalty and most like good men, put loyalty on a very, very different plane than any other virtue. You will like I, you know, in the crash, out around the crash out that's happening right now and that is constantly happening in the conservative media ecosystem. You will often find that I am dane to engage in any flame wars. I don't like it. A lot of these people have done me favors or I've done them favors. A lot of these people have worked with me. They've either been in my employment or they've worked aside me or they've spoken at the same places as I have and they've rode in the same direction as me. And if that is, if that is the case, then I am probably not going to flame you. I will spend my time attacking the communist. I will take my resources and I will not use it in like dick measuring competitions internally in the conservative movement. I will use it in order to put full force, full flamethrower against the enemy. The enemy is who is here to take and steal the lives of our children to utterly and totally upend this country, salt the earth, leave it into a pile of ashes and create slavery system, a global slavery system for us and our children. Like that is the enemy. They want to confuse, disorient, butcher our children. Whether that's through gender bending or whether that's through literally butchering our children. Like Jay Jones, the Attorney general candidate of Virginia who says he wants to kill Republican children. Like, like that's actually the enemy. So if you are rowing in the same direction as me, even if I have personal disagreements with you, I am going to try and like keep the battlefield pointed in the right direction because that is the war in which we are fighting. Matt Walsh very recently said, I am willing to put aside all grievances and all grudges and all petty differences to unite with anybody on the right in order to fight the left that wants to kill us. And we found that out the hard way at, with our, with our family and with recent news and with what's been going on. Like we've, it's been tough. It's been, it's been tough. Listen, it's just a matter of fact, you know, you got to like really think about your security these days.
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Mike Lawler
Because.
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Benny Johnson
There are people that are out there and there are left wing billionaires that are funding militant groups to come and kill us. So these are the like, like while Democrats are getting their feelings hurt, the real hurt are like the bullets that are being shot at the heads of Charlie Kirk and President Trump. So if you're helping me fight that evil, then I'm going to do my best to be loyal. I'm going to do my best to be on your side. I'm going to do my best to make sure that you can continue to operate in that fight with me. And that is why I do not engage in flame wars on the right, because I see the enemy for what it is. I wish more, I wish more pundits, I wish more conservatives in this space actually did that. However, there are those who, even though President Trump plucked them from obscurity, gave them a shot, gave them opportunities, and gave them quite a bit of fame and renown. You know, I'm not sure anybody would really know who John Bolton was were not for his work with President Trump for two years as National Security Advisor. Very important position, a position that Trump didn't have to give this guy. Same thing with Mike Pence, same thing with Chris Christie. It is so dishonorable, the disloyalty. Like, okay, so you have a difference with Trump. Like, can you see clear eyed, the actual enemy here? Don't you understand what we are facing? The cultural Marxist? Do you not see the future that they have set about for our children? Have you not listened to the debate for mayor in New York? Do you understand what is happening there? Fully defunding the police, full seizure of all firearms, full legalization of all sex work. The big viral clip out of that debate was like, how many mosques have you visited? What? Like, what, what, like what country is this exactly? This is a guy. This, this Zorhan Mandami is a guy who on his website right now says, my goal is to tax white people more. You know, he's only been in America like a couple of days. He says, my goal is to tax whites more. That's on his website. I want to tax whiter neighborhoods more. We all know that the world has become increasingly divided politically, socially and economically. But many of these divisions could stem from a deeper misunderstanding of how money markets and policy actually work. Wouldn't it be great if there was an investment app that was designed by people who understand the macro perspective of how global events can affect your finances? Now you can have that power in the palm of your hand with the Alio Capital app, powered by Altitude AI, which helps identify shifts in inflation, interest rates and global risk, and then adapts your portfolio in real time. Alio is designed for hands on or hands off investors. Macro investing for people who want to help understand the big picture. 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But like, these people, they don't. It is indefensible what they believe, and what's also indefensible is people that are getting dragged down in these petty little flame wars internally on the right, and that's what they want. They want us to all fight amongst each other. And they want guys like John Bolton, useful idiots like Bolton and Pence, Christie, and those are just the ones that come to mind. Romney is amongst that group to attack President Trump because they know how effective he is. They want those attacks from the right so they can say, oh, look, look, Republicans hate him too. That's actually not true. Donald Trump has record high approval numbers with Republicans, and I'm not gonna engage in that and that disloyalty, you know, it's. I know my rant will be over after this, but, you know, you just shut your mouth. You know, you don't have to talk about Trump. We did. We did a debate with the Democrat this week. Dude was on the show, Ro Khanna, and he was like, trump this, Trump that. I'm not here to speak for Trump. I. You know, you could, you could go ask. You live in D.C. you're a member of Congress. You go ask Trump what you think about him. Okay? Like, I. Trump speaks for himself. You don't have. Look, you don't have to betray Donald Trump. You, if you're Mike Pence, if you're John Bolton, if you're these guys. And Donald Trump has done so much for you. You don't have to attack him. You can go about your day and do your thing and you just brush off those questions. They choose, they chose to actively, vociferously go after Donald Trump, to damage him and hope and pray, as they did on live tv, that his career would be over. Why? Because President Trump held on to historical documents from his presidency when he had the first full and total plenary right as a president sitting or former with his security clearance to keep those documents, Donald Trump will have a right for the rest of his life. As the chief executive officer vested with the full power of the executive branch to have the nation's top security clearance, he will be entitled to security briefings every day for the rest of his life. President Trump will maintain the highest security clearance available for the rest of his life. President Trump has every right to have a classified document and to see a classified document. Yet they raided his house with deadly force in order to try and pry classified documents from his. From his hands, which he had a legal obligation and actually a right to his hold and keep. And John Bolton, in the act of, in one of the greatest acts of cowardice in my. That I've witnessed my entire political life, went screaming over to the news cameras, cheering that this is the end of Donald Trump because he mishandled classified information. Luckily, we actually have that clip, ladies and gentlemen. Let's rewind the clock back a couple years and listen to John Bolton talk about this heinous crime. We'll have to prove it then. He has committed very serious crimes. This is a devastating indictment. I speak here as an alumnus of the Justice Department myself, because not only is it powerful, it's very narrowly tailored. They didn't throw everything up against the wall to see what would stick. This really is a rifle shot and, and I think it's. It should be the end of Donald Trump's political career. This is a very serious crime. This will be the end of his career. Ladies and gentlemen, Karma is such a biatch, because look at this. Here's John Bolton this morning, surrendering to federal authorities for his own crimes of, you guessed it, mishandling classified documents. How you like them apples, John? Moments ago, former Trump National Security Adviser.
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Mike Lawler
John Bolton arriving at a United States.
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Benny Johnson
District court in Greenbelt, Maryland. He is expected to surrender after being indicted on 18 counts over the alleged mishandling of classified documents. Bolton faces eight counts of transmission of national defense information and 10 counts of retention of national defense information. The documents Contained intel on futuristic attacks, foreign missile launches, and human intel sources. So sad, ladies and gentlemen. Let's go ahead and play that sad. Oh, John, give me one more. Give me one more trombone for John. Oh, you remember John Bolton, just a minute ago was on your tv, was on your screen saying that this is the end of Donald Trump's career. These are very serious crimes. This will ruin Donald Trump. How dare he mishandle classified documents. Let's go to the article, shall we? Bolton surrenders to the feds to face charges of sharing classified information. Now they got James Comey on two counts. They got John Bolton on 18. Holy moly. Do you know that one of the things that John Bolton was doing was actually sharing classified information about nuclear weapons? Oh, wow. Where have I heard that before? So they accused Trump of doing. They actually have it in John Bolton's indictment. We'll read it in just a second. Former White House National Security Advisor John Bolton surrendered in federal authorities on Friday after being indicted on 18 counts related to improper handling of classified materials. Photographers have snapped images of Bolton leaving his home at Bethesda, Maryland, and then he arrived at the federal courthouse in D.C. when asked by Fox News at the scene if he had a comment, Bolton walked into the building. Bolton was indicted on eight counts of transmission of national defense information. That's transmission, Transmission. Do you understand? He's giving it to people. I don't know if he's selling it. I don't know if he's doing access. Alex, you have that funny photo of John Bolton, like, just wandering the streets of Qatar. What's that about? Remember when this dude was, like, in a taxi in Qatar? He's like, it's John Bolton. He's just walking through the streets of Qatar. He did this the week after he was fired by Trump. The week after he was fired by Trump. John Bolton is, like, in his giant mustache, is, like, walking around the dusty streets of Qatar. There it is right there. What the hell is going on? This was, like, right afterwards. I'm not. I don't know. I don't know what he was doing, man. But what the federal indictment says is that he was transmitting national defense information. There it is. It's some dudes filming from a taxi. And here's Bolton. What the hell are you doing, Bolton? Just schlepping, schlepping through the streets of this Middle Eastern country literally minutes after being fired by Trump as National Security advisor. Okay, dude, he does look like the Lorax, doesn't he? Okay, well, now he's schlepping. Into the federal courthouse. Let's read from the indictment here, shall we? From or about 4-9-2018 through at least August 22, 2025, John Bolton abused his position as national security advisor by sharing more than thousands of pages of information about his day to day activities as the National Security advisor, including information relating to national defense which was classified as top secret SEI level 2 unauthorized individuals, namely individuals 1 and 2. The indictment reads. Bolton also unlawfully retained documents, writings and notes related to national defense, including information classified at the top secret levels in his home in Maryland. Who is individuals one and two? Nobody knows. We're not sure. Some people speculate that it's his family, could be his business partners, could be like he's trying to write a book, could be that he's trying to sell information. We don't actually know who individuals one and two are. Alx, let me know by, for, by, for any reason. We actually do know but as far as I know as of time of recording we don't. My goodness, they're singing again. Oh no. Okay, let me read you the indictment and then, and then we'll go, we'll go to our libs. Singing outside of. Is this outside of the Bolton courthouse? Oh no. I'm so sorry. Well, Bolton transmitted. The documents that Bolton transmitted were unauthorized to view classified documents. Those documents, according to the indictment reveal intelligence about future attacks. They sensitive information about the US intelligence community. Intelligence foreign adversary was planning a missile launch, a future a covert action foreign country related to sensitive intergovernment agencies. Along with this information, they also include nuclear secrets. Goodness gracious. The FBI's investigation revealed that John Bolton transmitted top secret information using personal onlines accounts, a personal server and retained the documents at his house in direct violation of the law, says Cash Patel. These cases are based on meticulous work, dedicated career professionals, the FBI who follow the facts without fear. Weaponization of justice will not be tolerated. FBI will stop at nothing to bring justice to anybody who threatens national security. Bolton with was raided along with his office was raided. They found classified documents according to reports at both. So there you go, John Bolton another in a very long line of total and complete humiliations. The indictment right here. We'll always show you the, show you the indictment. You'll see a lot of different US codes that have been violated here. It's the criminal indictments here again. It is a truly remarkable thing that John Bolton was such a little attack dog, such a, such an attack dog against President Trump as it pertained to President Trump legal retention of Classified information. And yet here he is, President Trump, speaking of an absolute classic, an absolute master. When offered the information that John Bolton had been indicted on 18 counts, 10 years per count, 180 years in prison. Yikes. John Bolton is in his 70s, so goodness gracious, facing absolutely the rest of his life in jail for this. Donald Trump pulled the Ruth Bader Ginsburg card, which is Chef Kiss was just indicted by a grand jury in Maryland. Do you have a reaction to that? I didn't know that.
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Brett Tolman
You told me for the first time.
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Benny Johnson
But I think he's, you know, a bad person. I think he's a bad guy. Yeah, he's a bad guy.
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Brett Tolman
Too bad.
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Benny Johnson
But the way it goes, you know, boys, I'm not going to miss the flashback here. I'm not going to miss it. We gotta get. You gotta get me. You gotta get me. Tiny dancer Ruth Bader Ginsburg. I can't. You can't miss the flashback. It's one of the. It's one of the best Trump clips ever. Thank you. Alx. He had it right in the pocket. Danny and Alx. Great. Just such excellent producers. Had it right in the pocket. Here we go. President Trump thing. A legend. So he just says you just. John Bolton's been indicted. Oh, I didn't know. You're telling me for the first time. Where have I heard that before? She just died.
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Brett Tolman
Wow. I didn't know that.
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Benny Johnson
I just.
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Brett Tolman
You're telling me now for the first time.
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Benny Johnson
She led an amazing life. What else can you say?
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Brett Tolman
She was an amazing woman.
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Benny Johnson
Whether you agreed or not.
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Brett Tolman
She was an amazing woman who led an amazing life.
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Mike Lawler
Actually.
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Brett Tolman
Sad to hear that. I am sad to hear that.
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Benny Johnson
Thank you very much. It's pure kino. It's pure cinema. Where's Martin Scorsese cinema? That was cinema. I don't even know it.
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Mike Lawler
It.
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Benny Johnson
Is there a more polit. Is there a more perfect clip in the history of politics than this? It is the most perfect clip in the history of political filmmaking, period. This is. This is our Rosebud. This is our Citizen Kane. This is it. This is Citizen Kane. Wow. You're just telling me now for the first time and then Elton John just belting it out in the background. You can see Trump like, I'm gonna get another Supreme Court justice. I'm gonna be able to strike down Article 2 of the Voter Rights Act. Fantastic. Goodness gracious. You know, I wouldn't like be. I wouldn't be as gratuitous in our criticism of Bolton if he hadn't done stuff like this, there are thousands of hours of John Bolton dunking on Trump, attacking Donald Trump, these exact same things. John Bolton was never president. John Bolton was never president. Donald Trump as president. He's just one of like 40 dudes that have ever been president. Donald Trump in that position has these very special privileges. Yes, becoming president M makes you special. You get Secret Service for the rest of your life. Even if you're just Jimmy Carter putzing around in a dusty peanut field. You get Secret Service for the rest of your life. You can get classified briefings for the rest of your life. You can get a daily presidential brief for the rest of your. You are entitled to that. You don't have to take it, but you're entitled to that. A man will show up with a binder to tell you about the threats of the world in a very classified manner. John Bolton damn well knew this and knew that Donald Trump had a right to maintain top secret documents. And John Bolton still attacked President Trump. Here's another example, any given moment. But I don't think he cared about the classification system. I don't think he appreciated the sensitivity of this information and he didn't appreciate the sensitivity of how it was often acquired, the so called sources and methods. So this had been briefed to him before I arrived.
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Mike Lawler
It was repeated frequently.
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Benny Johnson
I think it simply had no impact on him. Whatever. There's a couple of different ways that.
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Brett Tolman
People think about this and people who are not friendly to the president who.
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Benny Johnson
Think about what's happened here. And one of them is, you know.
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Brett Tolman
Donald Trump, master thief, you know, criminal, running some kind of elaborate conspiracy to bring things out of the White House.
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Benny Johnson
And keep them secret for potentially for political or for financial gain.
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Brett Tolman
There are other people who add, its.
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Benny Johnson
Attitude is Trump is chaotic, he's careless, he's not that smart. He just, he wants.
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Brett Tolman
He took these things almost by mistake.
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Benny Johnson
And now he's basically stamping his feet.
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Brett Tolman
And saying, they're mine. I don't want to give them up.
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Benny Johnson
Give me a sense of where you.
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Brett Tolman
Think the truth lies with respect to.
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Benny Johnson
Trump's intelligence, carelessness and the degree to.
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Brett Tolman
Which he might have brought motive to.
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Benny Johnson
Bear on taking these documents out of.
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Brett Tolman
The White House and keeping them for this long at Mar a Lago.
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Benny Johnson
Well, I don't. It's very hard to speculate on motive other than that he liked cool things, he saw things that he. So he wanted to take them and he was pretty much able to take them. And not just on classified information matters, on all kinds of things that crossed his desk Some days he liked to eat a lot of French fries. Some days he took classified documents. He wanted them. Why did he want them? Because he could get them. Right? What a jerk. You know, he's just a jerk. You're being a jerk. The dude hired you. It's disloyalty. It is. And it is disloyalty in a manner that really affects the country, because what you're doing is you're taking all of your credentials that you've gotten through your years of service, and John Bolton's been working in the federal government for decades, right? Since the. Since the 80s. You're taking all that credentialism, you're lying on President Trump's name, and then you're saying that the president's a criminal for doing something that he has every legal right to do and, in fact, an obligation. I don't like Barack Obama, but Barack Obama has a right to Secret Service for the rest of his life. I would never, ever criticize that policy. And Barack Obama also has a right to get security briefings about the state of the world, since he. Well, for better or worse, helped craft the state of that world and will be. Will be threatened one way or the other by the state, the globe. Okay? And. And so I. I don't argue with that. John Bolton damn well knows that he's going on TV and he's lying about Trump. Now, you can. You can sort of, like, see some of the warning signs. Here is a good example. Here's a photo of John Bolton holding up a grenade. Pretty. Pretty interesting. Not AI. Why is John Bolton holding a grenade here? Exactly. Is there some backstory that could potentially tell us about where John Bolton's true allegiances lie? Let's listen. I think a lot of Republicans right now just wish Cash Patel, Tulsi Gabbard, and a number of other Trump nominees would just go away. Oh, no, no. We played the wrong clip. Here we go. Nope, that's all right. I might say I've got some personal experience here. I was in charge of policy and budget at USAID during the Reagan administration when we undertook a major effort to fix it. And I'm going to show you my farewell present from AID you can see it's a hand grenade, and it says on it, john R. Bolton, truest Reagan aid, 1983. This is a style of government. And. And that's the way we approached it. Hang on, Wait a second. So you got an award from the peacemaking people. That's a grenade. The usaid, Remember, the people that are just There to build schools in Botswana and deliver bags of grain to hungry people. Here's your grenade that you got from that peaceful organization. Got it. Okay, John. Got it. John Bolton's a very creepy, disloyal, bad person. Glad that he's indicted. You know, you actually love to see it. It's a, you know, it's going to be a massive warning sign to people. And also I wanted to cover sort of the, you know, the, the, the Mike Pence angle here. I wanted to like just note a couple of things about the way that Internet rumors work. There is a rumor out here that Mike Pence will be next. Want to pop that up? There's just some of the. Yeah, sure. Former Vice President Mike Pence has been implicated in the DOJ's investigation. A former National Security advisor John Bolton. This tweet is going viral. I had my team run this down. We have a great research team here and our production team. And now while this has done 20,000 reposts and millions of views and while I would, I guess I wouldn't be surprised if that ended up being true, as of right now, we don't have any evidence that there is any classified document sharing indictment in the wings for Mike Pence. DOJ did close a Mike Pence classified documents investigation a couple of years ago. Mike Pence. You have a lot of choices for cell phone service with new ones popping up all the time. But here's the truth. There's only been one cell phone company that stands in the gap for every American that believes in freedom and believes that freedom is worth fighting for. And that's Patriot Mobile. The good news is you can switch to Patriot Mobile today without sacrificing quality or service. Worried about coverage? Don't be. Patriot Mobile uses all three major US networks. If you have service in this country today, you'll be good or better with Patriot Mobile. Think switching is a hassle? It's not. 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But it is worth saying that in 2023 they did a full investigation into Mike Pence and handling classified information. And it is. It did not turn up to be something that he would be indicted over. Mike Pence did, I guess turn over some documents that would be considered classified. So I guess everyone has them. Right. Okay. Very interesting times. Very interesting times. There is a massive sense of F around and find out a massive energy of FAFO that it is. Trump says you're going to get sick of winning. It's almost amazing to watch what's happening right now. It'll make your head spin. I mean, I guess we've had Comey, Letitia James and John Bolton in the time span of less than two weeks. Stay locked in with your news. Make sure that you're staying locked in with the show. 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Democrat Attorney General candidate Jay Jones grilled over reckless driving conviction by GOP opponent J. Jones. The guy who has been sending text messages saying that he wants to kill Republicans finally was dragged on stage yesterday and here's what he had to say.
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Mike Lawler
And you're also going to hear from my opponent about text messages that I sent that I deeply, deeply regret. Let me be very clear. I am ashamed, I am embarrassed and I'm sorry. I am sorry to Speaker Gilbert, I'm sorry to his family.
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Benny Johnson
I'm sorry to my family, and I'm.
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Mike Lawler
Sorry to every single Virginian. I cannot take back what I said. But you have my word that I.
- [37:23]
Benny Johnson
Will always be accountable for my mistakes.
- [37:26]
Mike Lawler
And you also have my word that I will spend every waking moment fighting for you.
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Benny Johnson
What a prick. What a jerk. Said that he wanted to kill Republicans and their little fascist children. Jason Miaris had a fantastic response. He's friend of the program. He's the current Attorney General of Virginia. Let's listen.
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Mike Lawler
And I find it a little bit stunning that today you say one of the pillars of your public safety platform is protecting children.
- [37:51]
Benny Johnson
Were you protecting Jennifer's children when you.
- [37:54]
Mike Lawler
Said you wanted to see them die in their mother's arms? How can anybody who's ever worked in any of the crimes against children, all of the areas of federal and state.
- [38:02]
Benny Johnson
Local law department, how can they ever take you seriously, be the top prosecutor.
- [38:07]
Mike Lawler
Knowing that you view the. That children should die to advance a political agenda?
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Benny Johnson
It's unconscionable.
- [38:12]
Mike Lawler
And if you were truly sorry, you would not be running for this office because you disqualified yourself.
- [38:18]
Benny Johnson
Beautiful. Well done. Well done. I. I don't. I don't know what else. You know, I'm like, I'm going back and forth on how to message this because it's a crazy timeline right now where there are Democrats running for high law enforcement office that want to actually kill Republicans. And they're saying it publicly and it's like part of a platform. And it's actually how you get disintegrationism as a nation. It's actually how you create a zero trust society, sectarian violence and civil war. And so this was like a perfect opportunity for Republicans to disavow this, and we have, and for Democrats to disavow it. But they haven't and they won't. And that's because they approve of it, actually. And they approve of it because it gets them political power. And it shows you sort of precisely where that party is. And it's a place of desperation. It's extremely sad to see. And the fact that this individual, I mean, I guess on some level it's nice that he's like, it's nice that he's still running because he's collapsing the polls. He's exposed the Democrat Party for exactly how low they will stoop for power. It is grotesque. But if he, if he were to just bow out, then it would have solve the issue for them. Him Staying in stubbornly actually creates an opportunity for us to show the difference. Sometimes I wonder, ladies and gentlemen, if we're doing enough to demonstrate the difference. We're going to be setting our hearts like flint on ensuring that the nation knows what the difference is between the two parties. And the major takeaway from this debate in Virginia, that Jay Jones. Just like. Just like the race in New Jersey, the main goal will be prosecuting Donald Trump. This is it. This is all the Democrat Party has again.
- [40:33]
Mike Lawler
Virginians are just waiting for you to prosecute a case against Donald Trump. People are hurting right now. What do you say to those federal.
- [40:39]
Benny Johnson
Workers who are at home who got.
- [40:40]
Mike Lawler
Fired illegally earlier this year? What do you say to those people who are going to lose their health care base based on a plan that.
- [40:45]
Benny Johnson
You wrote a few years ago, by the way?
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Mike Lawler
What do you say to those families.
- [40:48]
Benny Johnson
Who are struggling right now because the.
- [40:49]
Mike Lawler
Tariffs that have also been declared illegal have destroyed their bank accounts?
- [40:53]
Benny Johnson
If you're going to prosecute a case, you should prosecute the president.
- [40:56]
Mike Lawler
But you're too afraid. You're too scared, and you're too weak.
- [40:58]
Benny Johnson
To stand up to him.
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Mike Lawler
I have no problem. I cannot wait to see Donald Trump in court and protect Virginia to put us first and get what we deserve.
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Benny Johnson
Okay, protect Virginia. Says the guy that wants to kill the little fascist kids of Republicans.
- [41:13]
Brett Tolman
Got it.
- [41:14]
Benny Johnson
Ladies and gentlemen, my children in my home are protected. Obviously, castle law here in Florida. There is, let's just say there are many mechanisms of protection in this Second amendment state that I'm very proud to practice. But you also want to make sure that you're protecting your children's overall total holistic health is why masa chips are the chips of our household. And masa chips are made with just three ingredients. No toxic seed oils. Literally toxic seed oils. Now that they've. We've cut seed oils virtually entirely out of our diet. It just. It tastes like motor oil. Like, when I taste them, it's just like.
- [41:55]
Mike Lawler
It's.
- [41:55]
Benny Johnson
It's repulsive. I don't want. It's no longer. It doesn't even taste. Doesn't taste natural because it's not actually natural. They're bad for you. But today, seed oils make up, like 20% of the average American's daily calories. That's awful. You can really trace so much of our problems back to that. Mazda chips are at virtually every dinner in the Johnson household. Corn salt, 100% beef tallow. That's it. That's what's in these chips. They're Good for you. You feel great after eating them. Actually. No more bloat or gross sluggish feeling afterwards because you just consumed a bunch of oil. And ladies and gentlemen, they're much more satisfying. My kids snack them day and night and you should give Masa a try. Go to masachips.com Benny use code BENNY for 25% off your first order. Masachips.com Benny use the code BENNY for 25% off. Also, they will be available at your Sprouts local supermarket starting this month. So go pick up a bag. Ladies and gentlemen, somebody who may be picking up the bag in New York City. Zorhan Mandami. Kami Mandami was out last night on the debate stage against Andrew Cuomo. I don't know, man, I saw, I watched the debate. He just, I completely outclassed Cuomo and just bought, you know, he just. This guy now, according to all available polls, is just on a romp to become the next mayor of New York City. Joining us now is a member of Congress from New York to talk about it. Representative Mike Lauer is the representative from New York District 17 and is well, had a very interesting conversation with Hakeem Jeffries recently. I want to make sure that we play that clip, but I want to figure out what the hell is going on in New York City. So the Congressman is on to chat with us about that. Let's go. Hey, Congressman, how you doing? I love, I, I loved that. I, I love your greatest hits with Hakeem Jeffries. That was fun. I, I don't know what the status is on the shutdown. Every little birdies on the Hill tell me that they're going to try and hold off to the no Kings rally that's going to happen this weekend, and then they're all going to capitulate. Is, is that, is that what they're saying for the government shutdown?
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Mike Lawler
Well, thanks for having me on, Benny. Appreciate it, appreciate it. Appreciate the work you do. Look, based on everything we've seen, the Democrats are hell bent on holding out through this weekend for their no Kings rally. It's going to be fascinating to see what the pro Hamas wing of the Democratic Party has to say at this rally, given that they demanded a ceasefire and President Trump delivered on that. You know, my, my gut reaction to it is that they'll find new talking points to rage about, because the reality is this was never about a ceasefire and it was never about freeing Palestine. It was always about eradicating the state of Israel. But they have no interest in Opening the government back up. And so I think this is going to drag on for quite a while, frankly, because for their far left base, Hakeem Jeffries and Chuck Schumer are trying to appease them. They are petrified of a primary from the left. Hakeem Jeffries is worried about a New York City councilman, Chi O Se, who's a strong supporter and close friend of Zoran Mandani. And Chuck Schumer is absolutely horrified at the prospects of losing to aoc. And so, you know, they are doing everything they can to appease this radical base. This is not about healthcare. It's not about spending. It is about politics. It is about trying to show their base that they are fighting back against Donald Trump. That's it. That's all it's about.
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Benny Johnson
So here we have up on screen. Congressman, you approaching Hakeem Jeffries with these exact criticisms. I loved it, and I'd love to have more actual debate in Congress and sharing of ideas. Hakeem Jeffries, man, he just ain't it. You know, like, they keep trying to make fetch happen here. He's just, like, not charismatic. He's. He's really lame. And he just has no inspirational ideas. He does facetune and Photoshop his own hips, which is weird. I don't know why he does that, but he does that in tons of photos. It seems a little creepy for, like, a grown man to do that as well. I'm not sure if that's exactly what you were here to debate him on, the amount of, like, editing he does to his own photos, but it was very unimpressive, his argument with you, and he didn't really have a great response. What was this like?
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Mike Lawler
Oh, it was quite remarkable. You know, first of all, he described himself later, after the interaction, you know, as Brooklyn Hakeem. He accused me of thinking that I was, you know, coming up to Beltway Hakeem, But I got Brooklyn Hakeem. Really, it was more dollar store Obama than anything else. But the fact is that he had no argument and he knew I was there. I had told his deputy chief of staff that I was going to ask him point blank, will you sign on to this bill, since you say it's about health care, sign on to this bipartisan bill to extend the ACA subsidy by one year. And so he knew and he came charging out as if somehow he was going to intimidate me or, you know, overpower me in the conversation. He was so arrogant. And what made me laugh about it is it's like Bro, we both represent 780,000 people and we both have one vote. You're no more important. You're no more special. The fact is that you have failed as a leader. And he couldn't answer a single question. All he could do was stutter, stammer, yell, pound his, you know, poke his finger at me and, you know, talk about Donald Trump. And my point was, look, if you're saying it's about health care, sign on to this bill. We passed a clean CR to keep the government open and funded. You voted to shut it down. It's that simple. You're petrified of aoc. You're petrified of Zoran Mandani. And by the way, why won't you endorse him? Why haven't you endorsed him yet? What are you afraid of? Go ahead. He's. He's the leader of your party now. And you know, they, they have no answer to anything except to, to yell about Trump. And that's really all this is. It's, it's one big show for them.
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Benny Johnson
It's pretty embarrassing when you're so insecure as an adult man and as someone who is leading one of the major parties in the House of Representatives when you have to do this in your photos. You know, we talk a lot about the sombreros that were put on Hawking Jeffries, but we don't talk enough about Photoshop Gate where he was caught photoshopping. I mean, what. I don't know if he's trying to be run DMC here or what, but, like, you can see that. You see how the bench bends. You know, that means that he's like trying. He's like, what do you call a man who's this insecure? Like, dude, you're in your 50s. Like, why are, why are you Kardashian level Photoshopping photos of yourself? And there's a lot of these, actually. There's like, there's. They were able to go and invest. They, they found, like, him doing this to, like, virtually every photo posted them in online. You should also not be posting photos of yourself as a 50 year old. Like, you've heard me talk about blackout coffee for a long time now, and there's a reason for that. It's not just about the coffee. It's about what the company stands for. Hard work, grit, the American dream. A little over six years ago, blackout coffee started in a home garage roasting small batches with one mission. To make damn good coffee without compromising on values. Fast forward to today, and they're roasting in house, packing every bag themselves and shipping straight from their 64,000 foot square facility run by a team of over 30 hardworking Americans. This is the best coffee on the market. I drink it every single day. And it powers this show. They're not some corporate coffee giant. There are no middlemen, no cutting corners. It's just premium, small batch roasted coffee made right here in America by the people who actually care about quality. So when you drink blackout coffee, you're not just getting the best of the best out there. You're supporting a company that stands for something. If you believe in hard work, American values, and coffee that actually tastes like coffee, go to blackout coffee.com/benny and use the code BENNY for 20% off your first order. Support the American dream. Drink blackout. That's blackout coffee dot com, Benny. Stop settling for less. Start drinking real coffee, you know, on Instagram. So what the hell is wrong with you anyway? But whatever. Like, was this something that came up in your conversation or were you sticking to just health care?
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Mike Lawler
No, I was, I was calling him out on the hypocrisy of their position. But it kind of speaks to the, you know, you look at Schumer, he's. He's updated his glasses, trying to appear trendy now. I mean, this is their way to try and appeal to, I guess, the younger generation, and they're just failing miserably at it. And you can see why. They have a real challenge. The Democrats are in search of a leader. They're rudderless, and Jeffries and Schumer ain't cutting it. And, you know, they're both from Brooklyn. You know, they're supposed to be, you know, hip and trendy, and it's just, it's actually, it's embarrassing. It's quite pathetic, frankly.
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Benny Johnson
So we have your Democrat opponent. You have a Democrat running against you who looks like he's made in a laboratory for soy boys. I've never seen anyone. So this guy looks like if the McDonald's soft serve machines, like, actually worked. Like, this guy is so soft, and he's such a. He's like, exactly who people thought were prosecuting January 6th cases at the FBI. And we've roasted this guy before on the channel, but he's just this, like, doughy, lispy dude who's like, I'm, you know, I'm a federal agent, and I'm here to make sure that Donald Trump's not a Russian agent. Like, I mean, like, he puts in his ad, I went after grandmothers on January 6th. He's total cringe. But now it looks like he's been caught saying he wants to defund ice, which is wildly unpopular, but I guess in line with the. I guess in line with the modern Democrat Party. Your comments on your Democrat opponent here who's running against you, a lot of great memes of this guy, too. So I guess I'm glad he's running, but the floor is yours there.
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Mike Lawler
Well, there's eight of them right now. I have eight Democrat opponents announced is that it's, it's insane. And my guy, yeah, my, my district's one of the most competitive in the country. I have, you know, Kamala Harris won my district by half a point in 2024. Joe Biden won it by 10 points. It's home to the Clintons and George Soros. So by no means a Republican bastion. But, you know, this guy moved up from Virginia. Another candidate, Kate Connelly, moved up from Virginia to try and run here. You got a former news anchor running here. He's calling to defund ICE. Kate Connolly says that we need to cut ICE's budget. They don't want law enforcement to do their jobs. And it's really remarkable when you think about where the Democratic Party is. You have Zoran Mandani that wants to defund the police, that wants to shut down prisons, that wants to legalize prostitution. He was asked in the debate last night about legalizing prostitution, and he tried to say, well, you know, we're not gonna enforce the law against them. This is the fundamental problem. They don't wanna enforce the law against criminals. They wanna go after law abiding citizens. They wanna take away constitutional protections for law abiding gun owners, for instance. But they don't wanna prosecute criminals who use guns in the commission of a crime. Zoran Mandani was asked by Martha Macallan the other day, should Hamas lay down its arms. And he said, I have no opinion about that. But he wants to arrest Bibi Netanyahu if he comes to New York City. I mean, this is the absurdity of today's Democratic Party. It's the absurdity of the policy positions that they are taking on the radical left and that their leadership, quote, unquote, is kowtowing to. They're bending the knee to, to people like Zoran, to people like AOC and Bernie Sanders, because they are petrified that that's where the energy is on the left, that's where the base of their party is. And so when you get people like Mike Sachs coming out and saying, you know, they want to defund ICE, or Kate Connolly saying she wants to cut ICE's budget. It's just wrong. It's fundamentally wrong. But this is where their party is. This is where the base of their party is when they say, oh, we're not trying to give illegals health benefits. Of course they are. In New York State, Kathy Hochul expanded Medicaid to allow illegal immigrants to get health benefits. And I got her on record before Congress testifying to that point. So when Hakeem Jeffries and Chuck Schumer say, no, no, we're not trying to do that, meanwhile, the governor of their home state is actually doing that, it's all a bunch of nonsense. And so they try to bob and weave. They try to say they're not advocating for these policies, but the fact is they don't believe in enforcing our immigration laws. They don't believe in supporting ICE agents. They have no problem with citizens or protesters getting in the way of ICE performing their duties. They don't believe those folks should be prosecuted. Hell, we have members of Congress that have assaulted ICE agents. They don't care. And that is a fundamental problem.
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Benny Johnson
The number one viral clip out of the debate last night is not what I wanted it to be, which would be this section of Zoran Mandami's platform on his website which says that he wants to tax white people more. It's a fascinating thing to just straight up admit it. On some level. It's like, I'm glad you're just admitting it. Like, okay, you know, some honesty, I suppose. But this didn't get asked, sadly. Hopefully I'll be able to moderate the next debate. But the, but. But an attack vector was like, how many mosques have you visited? Which I think it was like, was fascinating. So what does that say exactly? You know, Zoran Dami, like, he just arrived here a couple of years ago, right in. In. In America.
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Mike Lawler
He became a citizen in 2018 of the United States and got elected to the New York State assembly in 2020. I served with him one term in the State assembly before I came to Congress. And these policy positions that he's espousing, he espoused when he ran his assembly district, underlays AOC's congressional district. He came in on that AOC wave. Once she got elected, she started recruiting and mobilizing these socialist Democrats to run for city council, to run for state assembly, to run for state Senate, and they've grown significantly. And so when you hear policy positions like he's espousing, where he talks about Wanting to tax white, wealthy neighborhoods at a higher tax rate than other neighborhoods solely based on race. It's outrageous. But he's also advocating for seizing control of private property, for banning private property ownership, for freezing the rent, for free busing. He wants to raise taxes by $9 billion. You know, these are the policies of Marxism. This is what he is advocating for. And I give him credit insofar as to your point. He's being honest about what his positions are. But it is insane to think that he is on the verge of becoming mayor of New York City. And Andrew Cuomo, you know, I've said this many times, Andrew Cuomo is not a solution here. Andrew Cuomo is the one who signed cashless bail into law. Andrew Cuomo is the one that made New York a sanctuary state. He's the one that banned natural gas and shut down Indian Point and signed the clcpa, which has skyrocketed energy prices. So he's been a, he's been a disaster in New York for years, but this is the awful choice New Yorkers are making. And so then Zoran gets into a fight about whether or not somebody visited a mosque. I mean, look, I represent a very diverse district. I go into every community in my district. I've been to mosques, I've been to synagogues, I've been to churches. I'm a practicing Catholic, Irish, Italian descent. But that's not what this election is about. This election is about the policies and the policies that he is advocating that will destroy New York and what folks across the country have to understand. I get the arguments against New York and the anger that people have towards New York from around the rest of the country. But the fact is, what happens in New York does not stay in New York. And New York is the financial capital of the world. And despite all of these disastrous policies, it is still an economic engine for the country. And if you have an avowed socialist implementing these anti capitalist policies, going after private property ownership, going after the financial services industry, trying to raise taxes by $9 billion on an annual basis, talking about freezing the rent, you know, legalizing prostitution, defunding the police, it creates a situation that will lead to a mass exodus out of New York. And while that may benefit other states in the immediate, it will create a financial crisis around the country.
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Benny Johnson
Well, I mean, that's interesting. It'd be interesting to develop that. I'm not sure if we have the time, but like financial crisis around the country. I'm not sure about that, Congressman, because I feel like that it'll just move, like the fluidity of the markets and the liquidity will just simply go to Miami and Boca as it's already done. Right. It's like, like fake, you know, it's like, you know, my office is in New York, but we're really in the Brickle, obviously. And it, it's. If anybody who has open eyes can see what's happened with Ken Griffin and every other hedge fund in the world, and you just travel the eastern shoreline from Miami to Palm beach and you can see where all the hedge funds and all the Wall street bankers have moved. And now it's affecting the west coast too, because now this is the number one influence. JP Morgan tells me this is the number one. Inflows of accounts from New York are actually here on the western side of Florida, where we're broadcasting now. Like, it's already happening. Now. My intention here, my contention here is not like, I hate New York City. I actually, like, believe in my heart that you can't rebuild New York. There's not like another New York. There's not another San Francisco or Chicago. Like, these are places that should be preserved, actually, because it's neat to go there. It's nice to see there are landmarks and things that are historic. I'm not like, burn it all down right? Kind of guy, but I'm, you know, I'm, I'm failing to see a path forward here, like with the city, if they're going to elect a guy like this, you know.
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Mike Lawler
Well, to your point, I mean, this has been happening in terms of the out migration. Bill de BLASIO really undid 20 years of strong leadership from Rudy Giuliani and Mike Bloomberg that really built New York into the economic engine that it is. And what you've seen, obviously, is that the hedge funds have gone to Palm Beach. A lot of the financial services industry, especially the banks, have gone to Dallas. The fact that JP Morgan Chase now has more employees in Dallas than it does in New York speaks volumes to that, despite the fact that they're building this huge building in midtown Manhattan as their headquarters. So it's, it's a challenge. And the, the point that I make about this being a problem for the country. Look, there's a reason that the US has thrived, all right? When, when. And this ties to foreign policy. Part of what has made the United States the, the power that it is is our financial markets and our capital markets and the rest of the world relies on the US Capital markets. They rely on US investment, not just from government foreign aid, but in terms of US Investment on a corporate level and from our financial institutions. And having that centrally located in New York is vital. It is the financial capital of the world. And yes, it has always been dispersed across the country. Chicago, San Fran, Louisiana, Dallas. Obviously it is growing in other parts of the country. But if you have a situation where New York collapses because of its disastrous leadership and because of a socialist engaged in Marxist theory, that does not help our country. Because people come to New York for a reason, a lot of it tied to the financial sector. And ultimately, if New York or our major cities start to collapse, that's a problem. And it's part of the reason why the President is taking such an aggressive posture when it comes to crime and tackling crime in these major cities. This is bigger than just those cities. It is bigger than just the people that live there. It has a direct impact on our economy. It has a direct impact on, on our financial institutions and markets. When you see people leaving Chicago, leaving New York, it's not because they hate New York or Chicago. It is because of the cost of living and the quality of life. And that is what we're trying to fix.
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Benny Johnson
Well, Congressman, I'm telling you, man, I tell everyone, because we've got all these. We got people that come up to us, whether we're in Portland or Seattle or San Francisco. There's no such thing as a permanent blue state. There's no such thing as a permanent red states. Constant vigilance. There's no place that is beyond the pale and that can't be won back with the right policies and with the right atmosphere. And I'm just really happy that you've endorsed Donald Trump after he's done with his second term here, to run for mayor of New York. I think that'll be great. Like Swan, I think it'd be perfect for him.
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Brett Tolman
It'd be.
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Mike Lawler
It'd be quite the, quite the comeback in New York, certainly.
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Benny Johnson
Wouldn't that be the way to end it? Wouldn't that be the final note?
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Mike Lawler
Wouldn't that would be. That would be. That would be. I think he would enjoy that very much, wouldn't he?
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Benny Johnson
That. Would that be vacation, actually, in comparison to what he's doing now?
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Mike Lawler
Trump versus Zoran. That would be quite the debate. You know, look, and just to your point, Benny, look, as much as, you know, people think New York's a blue state, folks have to remember it was New York that delivered the House majority in 2022. We flipped five seats, including mine. I defeated the chair of the DCCC it was vital. My district is a 2 to 1 Democratic district. There's 80,000 more Democrats than Republicans. As I said, it's home to the Clintons and George Soros. We won again last year. I was one of only three Republicans to win in a seat Kamala Harris won that gave us the majority, 220 seats. If we lost those three seats, we'd be at 217. So these seats matter even in states like New York. And folks have to know that my seat is the difference between us having a majority post 2026 or not. And we need everybody's help, and they can go to lawlerforcongress.com to support us or text Mike to 85007. My seat is in the crosshairs. Hakeem did not like being challenged last week. They've already spent millions of dollars this year alone trying to defeat me. And it's only going to get worse. It's going to be about a $60 million race. So we need all hands on deck and need everybody's support.
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Benny Johnson
Ladies and gentlemen, Congressman Mike Lawler from New York, a man who's standing strong and, and I, and, and strong like iron man and Hillary Clinton in George Soros's district. Just a, just amazing man. Like the iron and the.
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Mike Lawler
Definitely never thought, they definitely never thought they'd have a Republican representative.
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Benny Johnson
Hey, it's, it's great, man. It's wonderful to see. Come back on the program anytime. God speed. God. God bless you. And, man, let's, yeah, let's, let's, let's start that Trump for mayor. He'll get bored, you know, we'll get bored. You know, a man I know, he knows you well, you know, he'll get bored. So let's, let's start it now. Why not?
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Mike Lawler
That'll be quite, that'll be quite the coda on the correct career.
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Benny Johnson
Godspeed.
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Mike Lawler
All right. Thank you. Yep.
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Benny Johnson
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Brett Tolman
I'm well. Great to see you, Benny. We haven't talked in a long time. I know. I watched what's been going on with you and we were all devastated with Charlie Kirk. I wanted to connect and let you know, I thought, you know, everything that you did surrounding that, you know, Charlie was a friend and a good man and it's amazing where we're at as a country. But I wanted to tell you thank you, you know, for all that you did in relation to that.
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Benny Johnson
Yeah, I mean the easiest way to really put it all together is that just God did, you know, like, because there was a spiritual energy to all of it and I can't quite explain it, I don't ever process it. It still hasn't really hit me, Brett, and I hope it never does actually.
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Brett Tolman
Yeah.
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Benny Johnson
But God has a purpose for all of our lives and so we're just going to live out that purpose and.
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Brett Tolman
We'Ll see what's right.
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Benny Johnson
You know, you just. Right. So what's the purpose of hoarding and holding classified documents for John Bolton? Like what? Why would he need so Many classified documents? 1818 charge. Indictment. 1818 indictments. Seems pretty serious, man. We read through the indictment earlier in the show. We'll pop it up on screen here. They're running out of space in the margins for the number of violations of U.S. code here. What do you make of this, Brad?
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Brett Tolman
Benny, I, you know, the deeper I dig into it, the more, more of a head scratcher it is. I, I, I think a lot of your, you know, your Your viewers, they need to understand, you know, I handled these cases both on the prosecution side and I've handled some on the defense side. And here, here's what happens when you are dealing with Top Secret. And I, I held Top Secret SCI clearance. I did, you know, where we were handling classified, very sensitive and classified Top Secret information. All of this, all of this information is stored in a, A, what's called a skiff. And a skiff is a secured compartmentalized room, basically, that's set aside for you to review and look at classified information. Now, when you're out in the field, like I was, often we would designate a particular room. It would have a safe, it would have locked cabinets. You would go into the room. You could not bring your cell phone into the room. You would then review all of the information. You could take notes, but those notes have to stay in the file with you. There was no exception to bringing files out. You also could not bring your notes out. You could also, you were prohibited from taking notes later after you've reviewed the classified documents if those notes were going to contain classified information. So fast forward here we have John Bolton, who's at the tip of the spear in terms of dealing with classified sensitive information, information that our enemies would want, information that foreign countries would trade in and utilize to try to attack, you know, both the, you know, the country as a whole and individuals inside the country. We have John Bolton, according to the indictment, not only does he remove classified information, so a criminal act, not only does he take notes and then remove his notes from that criminal act, then he also takes notes in retrospect in the form of a diary. And then worse, Benny, and this is the one that really shocks me. He shares it with individuals, individuals that may not have any clearance, family members or individuals close to his family. That's the kind of stuff we never saw. In any of the cases that I dealt with, we had individuals that brought classified information out. We had individuals that used it for their own personal gain. But I have never seen a case in which you have someone at that high level willing to take out classified information, put it on their personal server, and then share it with others. Both their notes that are classified and top secret, and the information underlying information itself.
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Benny Johnson
How do you even get this information out of the skiff? I mean, like, it seems like some of it is in the form of the diary, but it also seems like he also had, like, hard copies. According to the indictment, he had, like, a sort of a slew of, of items.
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Brett Tolman
Well, that's right. And Betty, in the, in his position, he would have had an office. And in that office, you know, he would have had the ability to review classified information because he's, he's steeped in an area every day, that position, every single day. So all of it, though, has to be locked up. It can't be just left out for cleaning people to come in and look at. But does it give him opportunity? It gives him more opportunity than, than even, say, myself when I was dealing with classified information where you have a room, not your office, where you can review some of this stuff and then you have to leave and somebody is observing what, what happens when you leave. Now, in his position, there would have been individuals that would have seen him leave and did they observe him having documents? Did they observe it on his desk? Did they observe him, you know, individuals around him? Did he bring information? It's designated, it has a classified classification designation on the documents, as we've all seen. So to me, it's, I don't know how we, how we got here. It's one thing to be the Vice President Joe Biden or to be Donald Trump and to have documents and you're capable of having them with you always. John Bolton was not the same. He was not in a position like the President's position where he could designate something classified or not. Instead, he had to physically remove these from the skiff. He had to physically remove his notes from it. And then later, and not a lot of people are focusing on this, Benny. He was taking notes from what he recalled that was classified. And why, why is that significant? Well, because he then was, he was referring to these as his diary. And he would share that with other people. And then fast forward when he reported that his personal email was hacked by a foreign country. And he, he came forward and he said, hey, my personal email has been hacked. But what he did not reveal is that he had classified information, top secret classified information on that particular email server.
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Benny Johnson
It's amazing. Dan Scavino always knows. When was this put up? What did John Bolton do with all of his yellow notepads that he always took copious notes on in the Cabinet room and office situation room? Traveling abroad. Look at this sentence. December 2nd of 2024, approximately 10 months ago. Yeah, good question. It's like they, they understood what was going on here. I've been to the National Security Council. I've been to their offices. They wouldn't let me in with my cell phone. I had to lock my cell phone away. I had to, you know, and I went in there, it was like everything was, everything was completely walled and locked off. And you have, you would have had to have run like a, like, like an operation where you're, you're intending on taking something like, you have to be very intentional about taking classified documents out of there, unlike President Trump. And I'm very glad that you talked about the difference, but if you wouldn't mind just very quickly nailing this down. President Trump, as the chief executive, vested with the full executive branch of power, holds his security clearance for life and is entitled to security briefings and Secret Service for life and has plenty power to classify, declassify, hold classified documents like get classified briefings as a, as a current sitting or former president. Is that correct, Brett?
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Brett Tolman
You're absolutely right. And even more so, these were documents that while he was president, he gathered and he collected and he wanted to maintain. And did he have the right to do so? Yes, in fact, he had the right to take a document that is classified and keep that document. And the fact that he keeps that document declassifies it, in essence, after he leaves office. So it's a very strong authority that the President has. I mean, he single handedly could look at a document, he could indicate that he wants so and so to see it, and that person could not have a security clearance, but they could see the document. It's not a formal process of declassifying a document. What it is, is the President gets to decide who's going to see what. I mean, he is the absolute authority in the executive branch. And so when they brought the case, we criticized it and everybody said, well, a grand jury returned the indictment on this case, so you need to respect it. Well, where are all those loud voices now? Here you have a Maryland grand jury that returned an indictment. And what you see in this indictment, and as this is the one part of the indictment that is not being highlighted and that is the criminal law surrounding the mishandling of classified documents says it's one thing to possess it. And in fact, the penalty will be somewhat low if the only violation is the possession. If it wasn't, you know, intended, or if it was perhaps a mistake, it's still a criminal violation. It may not amount to much prison time. The aggravation of a sentence or the increase in a sentence in this type of a case comes as a result of the intention to use the material. So here there's a real risk that he may be facing some serious prison time because we now know that he was using it to showcase the issues he was on Whether it was to make himself look important to later to capitalize on him, you know, financially through a book or whatever, he was sending it to family and friends and, and, and showing that there was an aggravating circumstance surrounding his possession. So not only does it show it's very intentional that he took it, it's showing that he had a purpose for taking it. Now, Trump, they could never find the purpose of him taking something, let alone that it was unlawful to begin with. And that's why the case fell apart. You had a judge, you know, as much criticism as you want to make of the judge having been appointed by President Trump, she was absolutely right to say, look, I want to see the underlying support and I want to see that there is a legal basis for you to bring this case against the President of the United States States. Here we don't have any of that. We have an individual who was personally trying to capitalize on the information, whether it was to, you know, expand his ego and, and his importance or to gain financial, you know, benefit from it. But he had a clear purpose for taking out classified information and then disseminating it.
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Benny Johnson
What do you think will happen? How do you think this will play out? You know, you're good at handicapping, Brett, since you.
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Mike Lawler
Yeah, yeah.
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Benny Johnson
You've done this your entire life. So.
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Brett Tolman
So I think I would say it's, you know, there's a 95% conviction rate across the country in federal criminal cases, and that includes areas like unless Maureen.
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Benny Johnson
Comey is charging the case, but.
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Brett Tolman
Yeah, yeah, exactly. I think, you know, a jury is going to be difficult to empanel, but it, but they'll get it done. Many have criticized this judge as being, you know, Obama appointee. The problem you have is this case is not one of those areas where there's a lot of subjectivity. The gray areas don't exist in this type of a case. It's either a possession. And when you see things like he made comments in some of the emails about his diaries and disseminating it, that this was to be kept quiet. And you see some of that information, more of that's going to come out, which is going to show that he had access to absolute knowledge of what you can and cannot do with the classified documents. So I think a conviction will occur. The judge will, will, you know, for the first time, be able to really make an impact on the case. When it comes to sentencing, I predict it will be a low sentence. I don't think, you know, with having no criminal history, I think they'll hang their hat on, on a very, you know, low sentence that probably is not consistent with several of the cases that, you know, I'm aware of where regular, you know, regular people are being charged with this, which, you know, most of them do several years in federal prison when, when they are accused and convicted of these crimes. But I predict this will probably be a low sentence given the judge.
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Benny Johnson
Well, you know what the process of the punishment and I'm glad that it's being exposed and I'm glad that all of them are being exposed from Comey to Letitia James to John Bolton. And I hear that these are just the appetizers. So I guess we'll see. Final, final, final word, Brett. And if you don't mind, I'm just going to play you. Since we put up a Scavino tweet, we'll put this one up. He just posted this as you were talking, as you were giving me the last answer. Brett Scavino just posted the yellow notepad fafo. So the floor is yours. Take us, take us out. Brett, what should we make of this current DOJ Bolton? Let Letitia James and James Comey can come get it.
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Brett Tolman
Well, I said, you know, long ago when they came after conservatives, when they came after Trump, I said be careful how you use power. We have never seen in the history of the Department of Justice the kind of abuse we saw launched under the Democrats. And I indicated that, you know, power is going to shift and what, what is it going to mean? It's one thing if you have clean hands, but we knew what happened with Comey, what he did to protect Hillary Clinton. We knew what they were doing in terms of trying to target a political opponent like they did. They went after the lawyers trying to represent, you know, the target of their, all of their animosity. And they had a scorched earth approach. And I warned that the tables will turn. The difference between now and then, then, though, is very much like what, what I've said before. This is, this is not revenge. It's a reckoning. This is one in which we know their hands weren't clean. We knew that they had committed crimes. And now there's individuals that are in office that are going to present that to the grand jury and let them decide whether or not a crime has occurred. And they're going to present it to a regular jury and a conviction is going to happen and everybody on the left is going to scream. They're going to scream that this is using the justice system. All the things that we tried to make them aware of, well, they've been the bully and they don't like it now that it's been turned on them, and then the microscope's been turned on them. And the only way you effectively get rid of a bully is you punch them back hard right in the nose. And I think that's what's happening right now. And it's not surprising to me that you have Letitia James that was. Went after President Trump for the very crimes that she was actually committing. It's not surprising to me that you had Jack Smith and many others that were forcing a prosecution. Why? Because they were going to have to give up power if President Trump won. So now I will go toe to toe with anybody that believes this is just revenge by the Trump administration. It's not. These are. These are day in, day out agents that are presenting these cases to a grand jury of citizens in some of the most liberal parts of this country. And they're returning indictments. So there's more. I'm sure that will happen. I hope they always stay grounded in good facts and the law is on their side. And if we do that, then I think the country starts to see what the consequence of weaponizing our justice system is.
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Benny Johnson
This country, it's not revenge, it's a reckoning. You're exactly right, Brett. It's beautiful to see. It's very biblical, by the way. It's founded in the Christian doctrine, and it is the role of the government actually to execute justice against evil men. And so, Brett, Godspeed. Go follow Brett. Obviously, 50,000 subscribers here on X. He's just one of the sharpest and one of the smartest and always has that beautiful western aesthetic that America needs more of. Please always keep the beard, Brett. Never do the mustache like John Bolton. Never go. Never go. Full mustache putty.
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Mike Lawler
I heard.
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Benny Johnson
I hear under the mustache was where they found most of the documents, but might be just a rumor.
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Brett Tolman
There's. There's still some. They're pulling out of there.
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Benny Johnson
Yeah. Godspeed, Brad. Have a great weekend.
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Brett Tolman
Thanks, Benny.
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Benny Johnson
Take care. John Bolton has pled not guilty. A little breaking news here. All right. Not guilty to all 18 counts. Oh, boy. And violations of the Espionage Act. Let's go ahead and watch. I think we have it queued up. Yeah. All right, let's roll. Trump National Advisor Security Advisor John Bolton has just pleaded not guilty to all 18 counts in a classified document indictment. A federal grand jury indicted Bolton yesterday after an investigation into whether he improperly retained classified materials after his departure from the first Trump administration.
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Mike Lawler
We are all over the story.
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Benny Johnson
We will bring you updates as we get them. Stay frosty. Ladies and gentlemen, it has been a fascinating week and it was, you know, again, our honor to be at the White House for Charlie Kirk's Sarah Medal of Freedom ceremony. His honor to be fighting with Eric Trump throughout his book wars. We, we, we had some interesting opportunities in D.C. we took a few of them. We did an interview with a Democrat member of Congress. I think, I think it went fine and I think that there's like more to potentially be built on there. I don't want a world where we're at each other's throats. Want a world where we can like agree at least that America is the greatest country in the world and fight for her. We were, we, my wife and I are very health conscious with our children and they were being watched by their in laws the other day and in laws brought them out to fast food. My wife, my wife didn't like that. The response was, well, you know, we ate it when we were a kid. Yeah, that's not true. If you check the labels and the ingredients on fast food from the 80s or the 70s versus today, it's like two different products. An absolute toxic sludge of chemicals are being pumped constantly into us by corporations that clearly hate us. Do you know that fries at fast food places used to be cooked in beef tallow up until the 1990s when big corporations decided to switch to cheap processed seed oils. Today, seed oils make up about 20% of the average American's daily calories. That's disgusting, but it's also really bad for your health. Masa chips have decided to do something about it. They created a tasty and delicious tortilla chip with just three ingredients. No seed oils, corn, sea salt and 100% grass fed beef tallow. These chips don't only avoid all the bad stuff, they taste incredible. Masa is crunchier, tastier and sturdier than other chips. Snacking on Masa chips you feel satisfied, light and energetic. No crash, bloat or gross sluggish feeling because you are poisoning your body with toxic chemicals. And as an added bonus, that beef tallow makes the chips more satisfying so you won't find yourself uncontrollably binging them and feeling hungry afterwards. Masa chips is beloved by tens of thousands of customers and have been endorsed by the industry leading health and nutrition experts. Ready to give masa a try? Go to masachips.com benny and use the code BENNY for 25% off your first order. That's masachips.com BENNY use code BENNY for 25% off YOUR first order. Popped up to New York for a bunch of meetings, then pop back down here and now we're popping over to Orlando. And who's with us every step of the way? Not empty yet. Blackout coffee. Blackout coffee keeps us powered and going, rocking and rolling. Got those four little kiddos at home and we're gonna be traveling with them. We're going to the again the Moms for Liberty event and we're gonna be speaking tomorrow at that. We're gonna be doing a panel on fatherhood and a keynote. My wife will be speaking and so on. Our caffeine levels must go higher. Must go higher. Blackout coffee helps us out with that. It's delicious coffee. It's roasted right here in the great state of Florida by great Americans who love this country and love the state and love freedom and love powering us to defeat the communists. Ladies and gentlemen, if you believe in hard work and American values and coffee that tastes like actual real coffee, go to blackoutcoffee.com Benny Use the code BENNY for 20% off your first order. Support the American dream. Drink blackout blackout coffee.com Benny drink real coffee from real Americans. All right, ladies and gentlemen, a very interesting week and a. Well, pretty fascinating week. Looks like we have. Oh, should we do ask betting anything? Sorry, I apologize. Let's just go. Go quickly. I'm sorry. We've been missing. We've been missing these for a while and so let's do Ask Benny anything. Rock and roll in the chat. Okay, from Ken. Well done on standing up for Charlie. What do you think is the most important area that Christian conservatives should be focused on right now? Parenthood and family creation. Period. That's it. That's our future. Parenthood and family creation. You want to keep that country red. You need to make babies. You need to have children. You need to protect the family.
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Mike Lawler
That's it.
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Benny Johnson
If you lose the numbers game, it's over. You're cooked. And that doesn't necessarily for America. That's for your. You're obviously seeing that in Europe, seeing that happening in Christians in Africa, the Middle east. Like it that. Like it's a numbers game. So you got. You have to incentivize and you have to preach family creation. John says will you put Charlie's pick up in the background of your studio, please? Absolutely. Sure. Why not? Of course. There's a shelf right there. Klein. I want to Charlie frame Charlie pick up there by Monday show. Nice. Cool. We'll be traveling on Tuesday. By the way, Juice says could you interview the CNN run the numbers guy app? I mean, I guess I don't know if they'd allow him on the show.
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Mike Lawler
Show.
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Benny Johnson
I'm happy to try, Harry Anton. Okay, maybe we'll ask him if he thinks that John Bolton kept the classified documents in his mustache. Will we find wisdom about that? We'll find wisdom in the Scriptures, ladies and gentlemen, for Psalms 82. The Psalms. Great, great richness of wisdom found in the Psalms. Let's jump in today. Defend the weak and the fatherless. Uphold the cause of the poor and the oppressed. Ensure, ladies and gentlemen, that those who are suffering in America, that they know that their country is constituted by those who believe in America first. And there are a lot of people who are struggling in this country. They can't afford gas, they can't afford groceries. They can't afford their own health care. They can't afford homes. And we are fighting for them. And it is the greatest insult to reach into the limited capacity for this country, to assist and to give those resources to people who are not Americans, People that don't pay into systems here, that didn't grow up here, whose ancestors didn't fight for this country. We've left behind the forgotten man and woman of this country and we're not going to do that anymore. As President Trump says, the forgotten man and woman is forgotten no longer. America first. Our roads, our infrastructure, our families first. My American children first. That's what a nation is there for. That's what a nation is there to do. Actually. That's why, of course, this is such an important question. It is also why. It is totally aligned, in fact, with this verse. Defend the weak and the fatherless. Uphold the cause of the poor and the oppressed. We are losing the middle class in this country. We must uphold our values that allowed for so much flourishing by so many people. Fight for that. Fight for your kids. I'll fight for mine. That's what the purpose of this show is, to keep this country and make it better for our children. We're gonna win. It's your boy, Benny. Have a great weekend. And this is the greatest country on earth. See ya. It wants wealth. It craves power and it will stop at nothing to get it this Halloween.
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Brett Tolman
Greed grows hair John Bolton Fly you.
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Benny Johnson
Mustache your money flowing hard you mustache.
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Brett Tolman
Your money.
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Benny Johnson
Jumbled and fly you must stash your money. The biggest ships in the sea all owned by the oldest kings and their dying legacy Media Dill meets Soon will the Benny show come to mind? The salt from lives for fun? Be the gold and bring the gun? We sail for number number 1?
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Mike Lawler
Minus salt from lids for fun? Leave the gold and bring the gun?
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Benny Johnson
We sail for number one?
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Mike Lawler
The biggest ships in the sea?
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Benny Johnson
All owned by the oldest king. The United States Soccer Federation presents the U.S. soccer Podcast. Searching for an inside look at the people, stories, and passion that fuel the.
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Mike Lawler
State of soccer in America.
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Benny Johnson
Who's going to be the key man for the US Men's national team? First and foremost, they need to win. There's something so fun about being the underdog. You're playing with house money.
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Mike Lawler
Almost.
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Benny Johnson
But what does this success mean for the future of U.S. soccer?
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Brett Tolman
Ooh, you're getting deep.
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Benny Johnson
Now this is where soccer will come to Life.
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Mike Lawler
The U.S. soccer Podcast.
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Benny Johnson
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