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Benny Johnson
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Corey Lewandowski
Great job you're doing, too. Fantastic job. I've never walked into a room so silent before. This is very. Don't laugh, don't laugh. You're not allowed to do that. You know what? Just have a good time. And if you want to applaud, you applaud. And if you want to do anything you want, you can do anything you want. And if you don't like what I'm saying, you can leave the room. Of course, there goes your rank. There goes your future. But you just feel nice and loose, okay? Because we're all on the same team. And I was told that.
Benny Johnson
Got him. Got him. That's right. President Trump actually did it. It's amazing to see. Ladies and gentlemen, something else amazing to see. There is a government shutdown right now and we are cheering for that. We say yes. Thank you. Government shut down. Guess what happened yesterday? 1 0,000 feds resigned. Client. In case you're wondering, this is our time to cheer. Thank you very much. Thank you. 100,000 feds resigned yesterday. I'm going to show you some things that are going to make you very angry. Okay. I hope you're sitting down. I hope you have some black coffee in front of you. I hope you're ready to get a little upset. Let me explain to you why it's. It's okay that 100,000 feds resigned yesterday. I've just asked Grok, yo. What's the difference between a federal employee versus a private sector employee when it comes to compensation? And according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, government workers receive 30 to 40% higher rates of pay than private sector workers. Well, that seems obscene and wrong. Let's look. Private sector worker. The average compensation, $65,000 across America. This is 2025 data. Bureau of Labor Statistics. 65K. That's the average salary for every American. That includes people making an insane amount of money. That includes people, you know, just starting off right. So there you go. Average Federal government employee, $106,000. Even state and local government is 82. This is communism. It should be reversed. The average federal government employee should be 65. In the average private sector should be 106. We're the profitable. We're the productive part of society. This is the parrot. This is the productive part of society. This is the parasite sector of society. This is the parasitic society. The parasitic society is sucking the blood off the host, killing the host slowly but surely. You wonder why our national debt is like this. Look at this chart alone. Average pay. So 100,000 feds resigned yesterday and good riddance. We really need to do a resetting of these tables. This is wrong. Obviously. $65,000 a year. That used to be enough to buy a house to get going in life. That's barely enough to cover groceries and gas these days. And I know that as a matter of fact, man, something's horribly wrong and there needs to be a total and complete resetting. And it all starts with the government. This chart alone, these three numbers is all you need. These two numbers, actually, that's all you need. Here's your major takeaway for today. That's what you need. A 40% difference. And have you ever been through these federal agencies? I'm not saying that all federal government employees are worthless. I'm not saying that all federal government employees are redundant or unnecessary. Certainly there are some that are necessary and good. Certainly there are some work that the government does that is efficient and effective that I want to fund. Okay, not a lot of it, but some of it. I want a strong military. I want strong gold standard science. I want to make sure that we have a clean and clean environment and so on. And make sure that, like there are, there are common sense regulations to just keep a moral society on track, right? Keep businesses on track, keep our markets on track, I think that's fine. But if you, like me, have ever gone to D.C. and wandered through the buildings of these federal agencies like we have, and we've done this a number of times, you wander through these buildings and you look around and it is like the most slovenly welfare for the single least productive, least impressive, least motivated, most entitled, most sycophantic, most sneering, least grateful people you've ever met in your life. I'm not saying all of them, but I'm saying that accounts for a majority of These federal employees. And I know this because I lived in D.C. for 15 years. I know this because my wife worked at the va and I've seen it myself. I've seen it. And this is an abomination. 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By aligning our spending with our values. Every dollar we spend matters. Go to patriotmobile.com benny or call 972 Patriot. Use a promo code BENNY and get a free month of service switch today. That's patriot mobile.com benny or call 972-patriot employees like this. This chart needs to be realigned. And I won't be happy until the federal government salaries and the private sector salaries are reversed. It should be the private sector that is booming. And the federal sector is where you go to serve, not to enrich, engorge yourself. But if you want to call yourself a public servant, does this look like serving to you or does this look like welfare state for the most liberal activists in in our nation? That's exactly what this is. It's disgusting. How many employees are in the federal government? Almost 3 million. And that's not including active duty military. So you add active duty military and the post office. It's almost 5 million employees. Well that's, that's a lot. But like is that, you know, surely Amazon or Walmart has more than that. Biggest employer in America. Large employer in the United States of America is the federal government. Not by a little, but by an obscene amount. Look at this. Amazon and Walmart have only 1.1 and 1.6 million employees. Amazon and Walmart, those monster Companies in every city, everywhere, all throughout the Nation only have 1.1 and 1.6 million respectively employees. Federal government has 5 million employees. Now, I don't want to cut active duty military. I don't think that's wise. I think that maybe, I mean, maybe, maybe someone could present that information, but I don't want to cut that. I think we could definitely cut the postal service, but right here, I mean the executive branch civilian workforce is nearly 3 million total civilian employees. Nearly 3 mil. What, what do they do? Are they filled? Is it easier to file your taxes? Is the federal government made anything in your life easier? Is it fun to apply for Social Security? Does any of this stuff work? Medicaid, Medicare, does any of this stuff work? The postal Service work? Does even, should we even have that anymore? Like, how redundant knows is all this? Is there a pothole on your street? Like, ask yourself this. Can you drive to work without horribly damaging your car? I can't. I live in what I think would be described as, you know, I think it's a pretty well managed city actually. There's potholes freaking everywhere. All right, the streets are a nightmare. Are like the highways, infrastructures, bridges, like the things that the federal government's supposed to do. Like, does it feel like they're doing that? What the hell are these 3 million people doing? You're sorry for the long rant here, but everyone's like crying, oh, government shutdown. Oh, there's a hundred million, a hundred thousand federal employees that have resigned. Well, that's only like, I mean, those are rookie numbers. We gotta pump those numbers up, those rookie numbers. Look at that. Three million employees. What the hell do they do? They fill in your potholes and they have 3 million employees. They fill in your potholes. Why don't we hire, why don't we fire all them and we hire 3 million construction workers. How about that? Let's hire 3 million construction workers, have a jobs program for like young men to go learn a trade and like fill potholes around America. How about that? Fix every road, fix every bridge. Can we do something productive? 3 million employee workforce. So that's three times the Amazon workforce. Maybe we could just do something. Does it feel like that? What? Here's a great question. Then and then rant over, does it feel like Amazon's more efficient than the federal government? Ask yourself that. Straight down the barrel, hey, ladies out there. And men, but like ladies out there. My wife gets like 20Amazon packages a day. Is Amazon more efficient or less efficient than the federal government? They have a Third, less employees. You know, ask yourself that question, is UPS, FedEx? Are they more efficient or less efficient than the Postal Service? And look at this. Postal Service, 600,000 employees. Wonder how many employees FedEx has, right? I doubt that many. We need a total and complete realignment here. Look at that. Here we go. The five largest employees and employers in the United States to Defense Department, Walmart, Amazon, UPS right there, and then the Postal Service right behind it. It's interesting. It says the Postal Service has more employees than ups. Either way, like, hello, don't care. Like, don't. You're not gonna get any tears from me, right? Geez. I just wanted to run through some of that data with you because, well, frankly, I mean, it's just wild. It's just wildly and totally and completely inefficient. What is efficient is Donald Trump's level of trolling. And Donald Trump delivered exceedingly sharp and spicy trolls to the Democrats over the last 24 hours. Their epic, like, historic levels of trolls. Donald Trump's library. Ground will be broken on Donald Trump's library in Miami. And I think that there should be the hall of Trolls. The hall of Trolls.
Peter Navarro
The.
Benny Johnson
The. Under the bridge of the, under the bridge trolls of Donald Trump should be a section. I will, personally, I, you know, we don't have a lot of money, but I'll, I'll gladly. I will invest. I will invest. I don't know what they need, but can I make the. The. The meme wing for the presidential library? We have very special things to talk to you about. To show you, Donald Trump's newest trolls are very, very spicy. And we have Corey Lewandowski, who's a. Who has some very sharp trolls of his own, who will be joining us live in just a second. Speaking of massive government inefficiencies, though, before we get to President Trump's troll masters. Yo. Medicare annual enrollment time. Right now, if you're 64 or older, you're gonna get spam calls and junk mail. You're gonna be attacked like a swarm of locusts. All these people trying to defraud you, ladies and gentlemen, this is something that you shouldn't ignore. This is a big deal. Medicare plans change every single year. Sometimes they just disappear. You don't be caught in that mix. Oh, that's an interesting one, Klein. What is that right over my face? Like, what. What is that? Exactly? You don't want to be caught in the mix, ladies and gentlemen. You want to make sure that you are locked and loaded. Chapter can help you out. Okay? Chapter makes sure that you get the best service for your plan. If you love your plan, you get to keep your plan. I know you've heard that before, but ladies and gentlemen, my friends at Chapter can set you up and help you out so that you don't lose the coverage that you depend on. They're the only ones who will look at every single plan nationwide to make sure that you're not getting ripped off. On average, they will say people around $1,000 a year. I don't know if you know this, but Chapter makes it painless. Check your options in under 20 minutes and get you the plan that's best for you. And boom, you're done. Dial £250 and say the word savings to take control of your health care. That's £250 and say the word savings for chapter today. This is. This is what Chuck Schumer happened to Chuck Schumer and same thing happened to us. Things are going great for congressional Democrats today. Here we go. Republican who's gone on TV the last 12 hours or so has called this the Schumer shutdown. What do you say about that name? Senator Schumer, can you hear me?
Chuck Schumer
I can't hear Senator Schumer.
Benny Johnson
Can you hear me? I don't think Senator Schumer can hear me right now. Maybe the government shutdown included audio on Capitol Hill. All right, the very rare, very rare W for cnn. They're very rare W, but very, very funny. Okay, so President Trump started off his round of trolling his enemies into doing what he wants. Now, the enemies here are, of course, congressional Democrats. And the congressional Democrats want to give criminal aliens illegal aliens. Health care. That's what they want. They're shutting down the government because of it. This was proven demonstrably today in a very short statement by JD Vance. Here it is.
JD Vance
Let's step back for a second because I think it's important for the American people to realize that the far left faction of Senate Democrats shut down the government because we wouldn't give them hundreds of billions of dollars for health care benefits for illegal aliens. It's actually not even all Senate Democrats. I was really gratified to see that a few of the moderate Senate Democrats voted with Senate Republicans last night to keep the government open. This is basically Chuck Schumer. Chuck Schumer. He's worried he's going to get a primary challenge from aoc and so he's shutting down the people's government to give in to sort of the left wing coalition and their party. And it's craziness and people are going to suffer because of it. I mean, people who benefit from low income food programs are going to suffer because of this. If you're flying today, I hope of course you arrive safely and on time, but you may not arrive on time because the TSA and the air traffic controllers are not getting paid today. Our military is not getting paid today, starting today. And obviously the longer this drags on, the worse that it is for the American people.
Benny Johnson
So Democrats are simply saying, we want to give criminal aliens free health care. We're shut down the government because we want to give criminal aliens free health care. Now we have a handy chart here of government spending and you can see how the government is spending our dollars. And you can see that the vast majority of spending or American health care dollars is actually in Medicare. There's a major problem already in Medicare. Look at this. Everyone's like, wow, we spend so much on the Department of Defense. It doesn't even register. By the way, the Department of Defense as like the top, the top expenditure line. Unreported data is right here. But we have interest Medicare and health care. Then you have education, which is 2%, Social Security, which is like 6%. That needs to be obviously really fixed. Medicare and health care are a whopping 30% of the federal budget. And Democrats want to put more criminal aliens into those buckets in order to balloon those payments that we already cannot afford. So none of the data makes sense. None of the data on federal employment makes sense. None of the data here on health care makes sense. Our deal, our own banners that we have for our ads don't make sense. For our partners, none of it makes sense. I'm fine with it, okay? I'm fine with it. I don't want obviously for my children to inherit a non functional country. And the way that that happens is you hand your child $100 trillion in debt because every illegal that comes to our country, you give them goodies to come in and you promise them they'll get free health care when they do it. Ladies and gentlemen, this is exactly the line in the sand that must be drawn. President Trump has a spectacular way of getting what he wants from, from very bad actors. Remember, President Trump trolled his way into China by, by calling Xi Jinping Winnie the Pooh. He trolled his way into, into peace with North Korea by calling Kim Jong Un little rocket man and saying that his little red button doesn't actually work. President Trump is the troll master of the universe and he's getting his way on this one. By. By. By. Well, we've just used the data to back all this up, but he's also used. Trump is using memes. This is President Trump's first meme that he used to troll Democrats. And we have the newest, spiciest meme coming up in just a moment. But here's Hakeem Jeffries and Chuck Schumer. I don't think this is AI. I think this actually really happened. I'm not sure. I think this is directly from the.
Chuck Schumer
There's no way to sugarcoat it. Nobody likes Democrats anymore. We have no voters left because of all of our woke trans bullshit. Not even black people.
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Chuck Schumer
Don't want to vote for us anymore. Even Latinos hate us. So we need new voters. And if we give all these illegal aliens free health care, we might be able to get them on our side so they can vote for us. They can't even speak English, so they won't realize we're just a bunch of woke pieces of shit. You know, at least for a while until they. They learn English and they realize they hate us too.
Benny Johnson
So Chuck Schumer. Not happy about that. Chuck Schumer was totally triggered along with Hakeem Jeffries. And instead of responding to this with like, I don't know their own meme, instead of engaging in meme warfare, instead of like, realizing that this is a tactic that Donald Trump is using to humiliate them because they are and prove that they are actually just wanting to give criminal aliens health care is in systems that are already broken, that we can't even afford already to give further incentives to incentivize future Democrat voters to come here and vote in fealty to the Democrat Party. The gig is up. They've been exposed. And there's not a single American that can look at the data and say this makes sense. Whether it comes to federal employee compensation or whether it comes to Medicaid and Medicare, absolute and total bankruptcy. Schumer and Hakeem Jeffries triggered. Here we go.
Chuck Schumer
Yesterday, the President posted an offensive, deep, fake AI video of leader Jeffries and me with sombreros, fake music, impersonating my voice through AI. It wasn't me talking. Even more lies about health care and immigration. Listen to this. America hours away from a shutdown, which we don't want, the American people don't want. The President is busy trolling away on the Internet like a 10 year old. And that's exactly why Americans are going to blame him if the government shuts down. Donald Trump.
Benny Johnson
Posted.
Chuck Schumer
This AI video featuring myself and Chuck Schumer. It was a fake video. It was a disgusting video. It was a racist video. It was unbecoming of anyone purporting to be the President of the United States of America. But y', all. I ain't scared.
Benny Johnson
I ain't scared. You're not scared of the meme. How unfunny are these people? I've never heard of this Representative Teresa Fernandez, but she had a complete meltdown. It's worth playing just a short clip of it. Here we go. And then what does that shameful man do? After a meeting where you're supposed to be working out details, where you're supposed.
Peter Navarro
To be negotiating a deal, you post something that draws a sombrero and a.
Benny Johnson
Mustache on the leader with whom you're supposed to be. You know what's gonna happen, lady? Like. Or do you know what the Internet is? You know it's gonna happen. They're gonna do that to you right here. Here you go. You got it. She got sombrero. This is what this is. This is a guarantee. If you're gonna go. If you're gonna have a meltdown like that, I mean, you're gonna say sombrero. Well, this is what's go. Should I put it up in my own window? There we go. All right. There you go, lady. This is what's going to happen. Is it? Is. There you go. Yeah, Perfect. Oh, no. Oh, you're going to get trolled. They're going to get trolled. And it's it's too bad, because they are actually living in a spectacular. You are actually living in it in the single greatest trolling timeline. And they should just appreciate it and you should, like, embrace the joke. The worst part is people who aren't, like, in on the joke and who aren't able to, like, roll with it. Ladies and gentlemen, Donald Trump presenting Trump 2028 hats to Democrat leadership inside of the White House when they met with him. Now, this was a rumor that it had happened, but now we have it confirmed in one of the greatest photos ever taken of Donald Trump. That's really saying a lot. President Trump pointing, laughing, trolling in real life. Hakeem Jeffries and Chuck Schumer there with the Trump 2028 has. It's just a thing of beauty. Look at the guy go. Look at. Zoom in on Trump. So got two Diet Cokes there. You got Trump laughing and roasting Hakeem Jeffries to his face, offering them TRUMP 2028 has. Let's go through some of the responses here. Do we have another. We have. There's another photo of it. Show the. Let's show the other. The secondary photo. There we go. Like sunlight to a vampire. Here it is. Another thing of beauty. Okay, what are the reactions? Got. Got Trump offering, offering him a sombrero. They're so upset about the sombrero. Why is it racist? I don't. This is what I don't understand. Why is it so offensive? I thought this was Spanish culture. Why are you so offended by Spanish culture? They're sitting there calling it racist. They're sitting there saying it's sombrero. There's another sombrero meme, Sir. A second sombrero meme has hit the Internet. There's a second sombrero meme. President Trump has posted another one. Okay. My producer telling me breaking news. Let's go. Clip D.
Chuck Schumer
It's a disgusting video. And we're going to continue to make clear bigotry will get you nowhere. We are fighting to protect the health care of the American people in the face of an unprecedented Republican assault.
Benny Johnson
Okay. All right, ladies and gentlemen, the Internet is uproarious right now. President Trump is obviously ensuring that Democrats are trolled into oblivion. And it turns out that all available data shows that Democrats are being blamed for this government shutdown. Will it affect ICE agents? Will it affect the critical immigration enforcement of this nation? To answer those questions, we have a man on who knows the Department of Homeland Security better than virtually anyone alive. A strong defender, an ally of the president and Immigration enforcement, somebody who's also known to be known to have some sharp trolls himself. The great Coral Lewandowski joins the show live now.
Corey Lewandowski
Foreign.
Benny Johnson
Welcome back to the program. Okay, so first off, is ICE enforcement going to be affected by a government shutdown?
Peter Navarro
Well, absolutely it is, Benny. And how it's going to be affected is that these brave men and women who go out every day to protect us aren't going to get paid. That's the problem. Now, they're going to stay on the job because they're patriots and they're going to make sure that we are safe and secure and we keep our border closed and we stop the fentanyl from coming in. But these men and women aren't going to get paid. So this Schumer shutdown, it's affecting our military, it's affecting our cbp, our ICE officers, all the law enforcement, the federal level. And so this is tens of thousands of people who continue to have to go to work every day to protect us and keep us safe and secure and aren't going to be compensated to do it until the government reopens. It's shameful, it's disgusting, and these people deserve better.
Benny Johnson
But they're going to be continuing their enforcement operations 100%.
Peter Navarro
Listen, in Chicago two nights ago, Chief Bovino went there and raided an apartment building that had about 40 Venezuelans. And the many probably trends, we are not going to stop enforcing our immigration laws even though the government has decided to close. These men and women of ICE are going to be on the front lines every day. They're going to go to resting people. They're going to find these good, they say good, Benny. Superintendents of schools around the country who are just taking the jobs that Americans don't want, right. That are carrying guns and running from the law and carrying knives and $3,000 in cash. I'm going to continue to arrest them and deport them. So we're going to keep doing our jobs. We're going to make sure the American people are safe.
Benny Johnson
Hey, producers, grab that story. I want it right now. That is a wild story out of my home, my state, the state that I was raised in, right? So the state I grew up in was Iowa. Went to the University of Iowa. I know Des Moines really well. Des Moines is like such a curious little pseudo liberal bastion. If there is any of that to be found in Iowa, it's in a. It's in Des Moines. There's not much of it, but the fact that this individual was able to become the superintendent of school while being a criminal alien, and then also, according to records, had a voting record in Maryland. Corey, can you comment on this? I mean, doesn't this blow up the line that there's no such thing as criminal aliens voting in America or, you know, taking the jobs that Americans might want? The superintendent of a school district in Des Moines is probably a very well compensated job. I'm sure there's plenty of Iowans that wanted that job. And instead of went to a criminal alien that's voting illegally in our country.
Peter Navarro
Well, and what was the background check, Benny? Listen, this person not only was in the country illegally voting in the state of Maryland, had been arrested for firearms possession, which is illegal to have when you're an illegal alien, had a firearm on him, driving the department issued, meaning school issued vehicle, and when pulled over, fled the stop, had a knife on him and $3,000 in cash. And when you asked about the hiring process, I said, well, immigration is a complex issue. A complex issue. You're telling me the best we can do is to stick an illegal alien with a criminal conviction for carrying a firearm and having a gun on him at the time of the arrest as the. As being in charge of the public school system for the largest municipality in the state of Iowa. And Benny, you know who the head of the school board is? She's a very well known Democrat advocate who served as a chief of staff in the previous administration to one of the highest ranking government officials. And she says that the issue is complex. There's nothing complex about hiring an illegal alien to, to educate our children.
Benny Johnson
So, yeah, I mean, that is. It seems like a massive threat to Iowan children that you don't have e verify. And this individual who's clearly violent, who had a lot of deadly weapons on him when ICE ran him down, is he in custody right now? Can you give me a status update?
Peter Navarro
Yeah, you bet he is. Listen, here's the bottom line, Benny. We're going to deport this guy because when you were in this country illegally, we will find you, we will catch you, we will apprehend you, and we will send you back to where you belong. And by the way, this was not an individual who had, you know, just gotten an order that he had overstayed and was told to leave. Like, yesterday, he had a standing final adjudication from an immigration judge that was forcing him out of the country. And the people of Iowa, the taxpayers of Iowa, of Des Moines were paying him hundreds of thousands of dollars a year. And if you believe the left, these are the jobs that Americans don't want. And that's why we have to have illegal immigration, right? Nobody else in America wanted a multi hundred thousand dollar a year job in the beautiful city of Des Moines with a state vehicle. Everyone knows the legend of D.B. cooper. But what if I told you there's an even better story out there? One with multiple aircraft hijackings, prison escapes, and so many twists and turns. I'm talking about the hit podcast American Skyjacker, which is now an action packed documentary coming to theaters and streaming this fall. Find out more at www.americanskyjacker.com and listen, listen to our bonus episode of the.
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Peter Navarro
Follow and listen on your favorite platform or a county vehicle. Because they couldn't find anyone else to do it, so they chose this wonderful individual without even doing a cursory background check.
Benny Johnson
Are you going to do a further investigation? Could there potentially be criminal penalties for the people who hired this individual? Again, it seems like you're putting Iowan students at risk.
Peter Navarro
Well, we absolutely have to do that. And more than that, Benny, listen, as we look at where the federal dollars are going, these communities that just continue to skirt the, the laws and continue to hire illegals have to be held accountable. And the only way you can hold these communities accountable is by taking their tax dollars away from them until they understand that there are consequences. You want to be a sanctuary city. There are responsibilities and consequences that go with that. And so you decide you want to give safe haven to illegal aliens and hire them into your communities, then there are consequences from the federal government. We will enforce the laws. You see what we're doing in Chicago right now, you, you see what we're doing in Portland right now? If these governors won't step up and protect Americans, Donald Trump has said he will. We will send in the Department of War. What do we see? Jeff Landry, the governor of Louisiana yesterday said, send me some more people so we can make our community safer. What has Memphis done? Send us some people. A Democrat Mayor Memphis. Mr. President, we can't control our communities anymore. We need your federal help. And so atf, FBI, you know, a whole series of three letter agencies are in there to make these communities safer because these people have been targeted. And you know, Benny, listen, I'm in New Hampshire. It's a great safe state. But we have seen what the whole of government approach does to protecting people in Washington D.C. we can go out again at night, you can walk on the streets. You know, our friend Big Balls isn't going to get beat up again for trying to protect his girlfriend coming out of a bar at night. And so that's what the government's primary mission should be, is safety and security, protection of its citizens, whether it's home or abroad. We are now doing that for the first time in a long time.
Benny Johnson
So talk about the opposite of big balls. Let's talk about the NFL. So the NFL leadership has decided to hire a cross dressing, America hating, ICE hating, Puerto Rican dude whose music I haven't heard any of, but his name's Bad Bunny. And, and he, he says that he dislikes Donald Trump, he endorsed Kamala Harris and he doesn't sing in English, but nonetheless, he's been hired as the super bowl halftime show in spite of the fact that he refuses to tour in America because he's so scared of ice. He's so scared of Homeland Security enforcement knowing that those, you know, his concerts would be a nexus for immigration enforcement. And he's probably right on that. I saw what you guys, I saw what ICE did outside of the Gavin Newsom rally in California, and that seemed wildly effective. And so your comments, Corey, on this. Will ICE have enforcement at the super bowl for the Bad Bunny super bowl halftime show?
Peter Navarro
Benny, there is nowhere that you can provide safe haven to people who are in this country illegally. Not the super bowl and nowhere else. We will find you, we will apprehend you, we will put you in a detention facility, and we will deport you. So know that that is a very real situation under this administration, which is completely contrary to how it used to be. That said, you know, look, the NFL has been so woke for so many years, decide to make a comeback. They finally had people stand up for our great and our great national anthem. But remember these guys, Colin Kaepernick used to say, well, I wasn't being chosen to play on the NFL team because I was kneeling. No, you sucked and that's why you weren't being played. You know, that's why no team want to pick you up. Because they're a business is the bottom line. And so here's where we are, Benny. I used to love watching NFL games. I used to love watching baseball games. And when sports got into wokeness, I stopped doing it. Now I still participate in a fantasy football league with some of the guys that I've known for 25 years and, you know, want my players to win. But it's so shameful that they've decided to pick somebody who just seems to hate America so much to represent them at the halftime game. I was at The super bowl last year with President Trump, I had the chance to be in Louisiana and his box and watch the game and get to enjoy that. But listen, we should be trying to be inclusive and not exclusive. There are plenty of great bands and, and entertainment people out there who could be playing at that show. That would be bringing people together and not separating them.
Benny Johnson
It doesn't make any sense to me because he's Puerto Rican, so he has an American passport. So he's like. And he lives in American territory. He was born in American territory. Yeah, you're fine. Can you explain that cognitive dissonance to me? I don't understand that. Like, how can you do the inside, outside thing, Bro, you're an American. Show me your passport. You have some special Puerto Rican passport just for. No, you don't. You have an American passport, you fraud.
Peter Navarro
That's exactly right. Listen, if he was born in Puerto Rico, he's got a blue passport just like the one that said I was born in Lowell, Massachusetts. Right. We don't distinguish. We don't differentiate. You want to go to Puerto Rico? The only thing you can't do coming back from Puerto Rico is you can't bring fruit back. But you don't have to go through customs. You don't have to do anything else. It's an American territory. You can go there as often as you want. There are a whole bunch of direct flights. There's a beautiful property down there called Dorado. If you've never been, it's this incredible facility. Puerto Rico can be beautiful. And by the way, if you're a full time resident of the, of the territory of Puerto Rico, you don't pay a federal income tax. It's one of the luxuries that people have down there. And so you see more and more people from the mainland, as they refer to. Right. The lower 48, moving down there for the tax benefit. So it's an incredible place. But let's not pretend the guy's a. He's not a US Citizen, because he is.
Benny Johnson
Yeah, that's right. Okay, so just quickly, was it. Would it be the Patriots then your team would be the Patriots?
Corey Lewandowski
It is.
Peter Navarro
My team is the Patriots. Look, and I'm a Brady guy. I saw Tom Wednesday night in New York last week. Man, that guy is so good. I love them when he won six Super Bowls for the Patriots. I loved him when he won the one for Tampa Bay. The Pats actually won on Sunday. I was at the Sox game on Sunday. So I'm a New England guy. I'm Here at my home in New Hampshire, the Sox beat the Yankees last night. Good night for me. We'll see what happens. But it's October baseball.
Benny Johnson
Okay, I think, I think you're gonna make a little news here. Corey is saying that there's gonna be ice enforcement at the Bad Bunny concert at the Super Bowl. That, that seems to be the, the rub here. And it will be everywhere.
Peter Navarro
Bad Bunny plays. Look, if there are illegal aliens, I don't care if it's a, a concert for Johnny Smith or Bad Bunny or anybody else, we're going to do enforcement everywhere because we're going to make Americans safe. That is directed from the President. And if you're in this country legally, do yourself a favor, go home, we'll buy you the plane ticket, get out of the country and you'll have a chance to come back legally. If you're here illegally, I don't care if you've been here two minutes, two days or 20 years, we will find you. We will deport you. So just know what's coming.
Benny Johnson
Just very quickly here, what are your deportation goals? What, what, what, what, what should we look at? I know it's taken a long time to get ramped up and to get the funding. What does four years look like? Corey Lewandowski for the first time in.
Peter Navarro
American history, I believe we've got a net bound outbound migration. So in the first six months of this administration, 2.2 million people who were in this country left the country. Of those, 1.5 million were illegal aliens. And Benny, what that translates to is $15 billion in annual savings to state, local and Federal government resources. 15 billion in the first six months. So that's what we've known have either self deported or used our app. Look, if we believe, and I do, there are 20 million people in this country illegally, then we're going to get them all out. That's the goal. Our goal should be holistic 100%. And the only people in this country like should be in any country are the ones that they're legally. That should be our ultimate goal. And we'll stop at nothing less.
Benny Johnson
That's such a great line. Thank you for that line. And in closing here, everyone follow Corey Lewandowski. Such a great line. The only people that should be in any country are the citizens of that country. Period. That's, that's every country on earth, right? I don't, I don't belong anywhere else. I'm an American. I should be in America. I'm a visitor everywhere else. And I go Home. And it should be the same way here. You're exactly right, Corey. Corey Lewandowski, ladies and gentlemen. Everybody follow. He has 570,000 subscribers here on X. Get in there and fight with the people who are fighting for us. Godspeed, Corey.
Peter Navarro
Thanks, Benny.
Benny Johnson
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Corey Lewandowski
I did take a little bit of notice on that, Benny. I mean, let's, let's look at the, the cases here, right? I'm got a misdemeanor, right? And five armed FBI agents surround me and my fiance in a gangway, slap me in handcuffs, don't let me call my lawyer. Taking a car, it was about this big. So I was like all cramped up and I find myself in leg irons. And then I visited the ghost of John Hinckley. What do I mean by that? They stick me in a cell, Benny. And the guard looks at me, he goes, you know, that's the cell that John Hinckley was in after he shot Reagan. I'm thinking to myself, wait a minute, what's the moral equivalence here?
Peter Navarro
And the.
Corey Lewandowski
Yeah, my journey was a very dark one, but it was also comic in a way. And call me, I'm thinking, wow, this guy, two felonies. If he's convicted, that would put him in play in prison for 10 years. I was in prison with guys like that. By the way, I saw your last guest, if we're in real time here, Corey. I love Corey. Cory and I work on a lot of stuff together. He's talking about Puerto Rico, but like half my prison population. I was like the only guy with a misdemeanor in with 200 felons. And half of them were from Puerto Rico. And why is that? Because. Because Puerto Rico, when they tried to run a prison system, it was so corrupt they had to ship them off to the mainland. So. And the first I gotta got to show you this. This is, this is my story. I went to prison, so you won't have to. It's the book that's just out now. The first chapter starts with the leg irons arrest. But. But shortly into it, Benny, I'm in the yard, like the third day I'm there, and three guys, they were Puerto Ricans, surround me. And I'm thinking, You know, what could go wrong here? I speak a little bit of Spanish, and it's like, well, the guy, one of the guys says to me, it's like, I like you. I go, why? You don't. You know, it's like, why. He says. He says, you're not a snitch. And I'm thinking to myself.
Benny Johnson
Like, on.
Corey Lewandowski
Like on Trump, between me refusing an illegal congressional subpoena and those guys not stitching after, you know, they boosted a car or, you know, sold 16 keys of. Of whatever, coke, heroin, whatever. And. And so it's. I look at. Call me. See, Comey, Benny is just. He's just like the tip of the iceberg. The guy who put me in prison in leg irons is a guy named Walter Giardina. He's a. He's a special agent. And why do I mention him? Because if you. I assume that your viewers understand the Russia hoax. The Russia hoax started with the false Steele dossier paid for by the Hillary Clinton campaign, which falsely implicated Trump with Russia. Right? Now, why do I mention it here with Giardina and Comey? Let me connect the dots. Giardina, according to whistleblowers, was one of the guys who. Who read the Steele dossier. Here I am. I'm pretending I'm Giardn. Oh, yeah, this looks true. And he moves it up the chain. And. And that started the fisa illegal FISA warrants, Benny. And that started Crossfire Hurricane. And it did. And. And he didn't stop there. He was like. He was like one of Comey's top lieutenants. And. And Comey, he. He either knew or must have known that that thing was fake and that this was all a conspiracy. But it was Brennan Clapper Page struck. It was Rosenstein, it was Schiff. And so, you know, I go to prison for four months of my life at the tender age of 74. You know, four months is not. It's. It's. It's not insignificant when you're at my end of the spectrum here in terms of age and. And for a misdemeanor. And these guys have skated for years when they've been responsible. And Giardina himself, Benny, he's implicated by whistleblowers in every attempt to interfere with the Trump election in 1620 and 24 and to try to take Trump out when he was in office. It's crossed by a hurricane. It's Arctic frost is Operation Crimson River. And the culture of that FBI, Benny, it's just like. Like crazy stuff.
Benny Johnson
Is he still employed there?
Corey Lewandowski
Peter, what's that?
Benny Johnson
Is he still employed at the FBI?
Corey Lewandowski
He. He got relieved of his duties. And of course he's doing what all these guys do. I think he's like, suing for unfair treatment. Meanwhile, Chuck Grassley, a senator, is coming out with report after report after report about him and everybody else in that FBI who was under Comey and then Ray Chris Wray was no, was no walk in the park either. I mean, that guy. I mean, one of the things I want to find out, Benny, is like, who ordered my leg irons arrest? That was like, so off the charts.
Benny Johnson
Yeah, we wouldn't. I mean, again, like, James Comey has the freedom to, like, peacefully, you know. You know, it's not going to be on camera. There's no way they're going to get a photograph of it. It's going to be, like, done in a secret location at a secret time. This is not retribution. Everyone's like, it's retribution. Retribution would be a 3am raid with, with guns drawn, Comey in his underwear getting dragged out onto his lawn. And then with. With. Not with cnn, but with, like, our streaming cameras out there. Right? And Steve Bannon's war room would be streaming it live. Right? They'd tip off Bannon, they tip off us, they tip off Fox and tip off Newsmax, and we'd all be outside of Comey's house. That would actually be eye for an eye retribution.
Corey Lewandowski
The other thing that pissed me off about the way Comey is being here. You see this cover, right?
Benny Johnson
Yeah.
Corey Lewandowski
This was the night Klein put it up.
Benny Johnson
Yeah.
Corey Lewandowski
I got. This was the night of the day I got out of prison. Okay.
Benny Johnson
Yeah.
Corey Lewandowski
I walked literally out of prison at like 1am in the morning, and I'm standing on the stage and of the Republican National Convention giving a speech on behalf of Donald Trump and J.D. vance. Right. And that's my fiance there, and she. She has the book. I went to prison, so you won't have to. Is. Is my diary when I'm in prison, but she kept one, too, so. So you. You can kind of understand that she did the time with me. And that's what these people don't understand. And that's what pissed me off about Comey is when he gets indicted, the first thing he says is, oh, my. He mentions his family, okay? Like we're supposed to feel sorry for that son of a bitch. He didn't care a wit about Donald Trump's family when he entrapped Mike Flynn and cost him $7 million in legal fees. He didn't give a crap about his family. In fact, Comey put the screws to Mike's son so that Mike would bend the knee to him. That's exactly right about anybody's family. That son of a just cares about him. So this book, again, I went to prison so you won't have to. It's a wake up call. It's like if they can come for me, they can come for you. And don't, don't for a minute doubt that, my friends. Because if those SOBs get Congress back in 2026, it's going to be the same crap all over again. And that's why my first rule and last rule is accountability. If we don't hold them accountable, Benny, they're going to keep doing it again and again and again. And like I say, Comey give him his day in court. You know what? I didn't have a day in court. I had a Democrat judge who bundled campaign contributions for Barack Obama. Obama got his job and stripped me of every single defense, Benny, before I even got to a jury. That's the way they roll in the District of Columbia federal courts. It's lawfare, lawfare, lawfare. Comey will get a fair trial. He wasn't put in leg irons. But there's a long list, Benny, of people that need to be held accountable. And I hope that that happens because if it doesn't, they're coming for us.
Benny Johnson
Yes, Peter, I'm so sorry that we're up against a hard out here. I want to talk with you for the next hour about manufacturing and about the work that you're doing in the administration. And I want everyone to go and get Peter Navarro's book. It's right here. It's up on screen. Here's the Amazon link. You can see here it's a top seller. It's got 4.8 out of 5 stars. It is an absolute banger. It's something that you must read in order to understand the plan playbook for how the left operates and to understand what true justice actually is. As Peter lays out what should be happening to people like Comey, Brennan and Clapper. And I think that, well, Peter Navarro is one of those guys who's like always right. So you should listen to him also. Follow Peter Navarro please, on X. Here's his account. He's got 371,000 subscribers. Make sure that you are following the people who are fighting for us. Peter Navarro is one of those. Godspeed and let's talk about, let's, let's do an hour on manufacturing. Next time, Peter.
Corey Lewandowski
You got it, my brother. Thank you brother.
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Peter Navarro
That's us. Category is the N word. There are two versions.
Benny Johnson
Okay.
Peter Navarro
Donald Trump does not like to say this word.
Benny Johnson
I know it, but I don't think I should say it. Five seconds. All right. I'd like to solve the puzzle. The N word. Huh? Oh. Ooh. Oh. Nuclear, of course.
Corey Lewandowski
Can we.
Peter Navarro
Can we cut to a well?
Benny Johnson
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Episode Title: Democrats Throw Hysterical MELTDOWN As Trump Gives Them 'Trump 2028' Hats, Trolls With 'Racist' Meme
Host: Benny Johnson
Guests: Corey Lewandowski, Peter Navarro
Date: October 1, 2025
This episode of The Benny Show dives deep into the political drama surrounding the government shutdown, Trump’s trolling of Democratic leadership (including viral memes and iconic "Trump 2028" hats), and the wider conversation on government inefficiency, illegal immigration, and media bias. Featuring pointed commentary from Benny Johnson, former Trump adviser Corey Lewandowski, and former White House official Peter Navarro, the discussion challenges the motives and methods of the Democratic Party, highlights double standards in law enforcement, and plays up the culture war tactics of Donald Trump. The tone is sharply critical of Democrats and establishment institutions, combining data-driven arguments with humor and barbed political attacks.
Benny Johnson (03:31-10:00): Frames the government shutdown as positive, celebrating reports of 100,000 federal employees resigning.
Criticizes redundant services, claims many government employees are entitled and unproductive.
Proposes replacing federal jobs with construction roles to address infrastructure problems directly.
The language is openly combative, deeply skeptical of government and Democrats, and packed with sarcasm and punchlines. The show employs a mix of data, personal anecdotes, and memes to drive its points, using the guests’ personal stories to underscore claims of systemic corruption and double standards. Both Benny and his guests lean heavily into “culture war” framing, often through ridicule.
This episode encapsulates the Benny Show’s aggressive, culture-first, anti-establishment perspective. The hosts and guests argue that government overgrowth and Democratic policies are eroding American society and economic vitality, while positioning Trump’s irreverent meme tactics as savvy resistance. Allegations of political persecution and legal double standards tie the episode together, capped by rallying cries for accountability and bold law enforcement reforms.