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Tuesday, Nov. 12, 2025. Whistleblower emerges from inside of the FBI talking about the January 6th Pipe Bomber and a massive cover up that is occurring right now that obviously started occurring years ago and is being unwound. Hopefully we'll talk about that. Also, massive news. The House committee demands Kamala Harris's Secret Service be questioned. A reminder that Kamala Harris, Secret Service brought her to the DNC within feet of the pipe bomb, let her go in. And then when they were notified about the pipe bomb, what did they end up doing? They did what exactly what I did this morning, broke my chin. They just sat there for 60 seconds and did absolutely nothing. They actually finished their Wawa hoagies. That's what they ended up doing. They like, hey, there's a bomb right there. Oh yeah, sure, bro. Chill out. They let kids walk by, dogs, dog walkers walk by, trains go by and they finish their sandwiches. What the hell is that about exactly? Well, it sounds like we're going to find out. Former Capitol Police Chief Stephen Sund joining the program. Thank God this man has so many answers or at the very least the right questions. He knows everything that went on that day. Byron Donalds was in Congress that day. We're gonna ask him about that along with a bunch of other things. And Chip Roy will be joining the program from the great state of Texas. Texas, Texas and Florida. And the Capitol Police chief in the House today. My name is Benny Johnson and this is the Benny Show. Just a reminder that Byron Donald's and I will actually be live together this week. Tomorrow, the University of Florida. It's going to be a fun one. It's going to be rowdy. We're going to talk to the kids about how we save the country. How do we save the country? In fact, you pop up this tweet from this morning. There's something that we've been talking about. I actually didn't know this. I don't have an encyclopedic knowledge of everything that Charlie ever tweeted. And this tweet hit me like a ton of bricks this morning. I want to talk to you about it because I, you know, kind of ranted. I don't like being a doomer. I don't know, like, let, let's talk about the energy in the nation right now. Let's talk about the energy in the country because I can feel it and you can feel it and my wife can feel it like ever. Like everyone's kind of like got this like strange, it's like strange energy that's happening right now in the country. The reality is setting in. And that reality is our enemy. The reality is setting in that you can't just stage a revolution overnight. There was a sense of euphoria one year ago when President Trump won not just by a little, but by a lot. President Trump won all seven swing states, the popular vote, 90% of U.S. counties. If you wouldn't mind, show them the map. That's why I keep the map in the studio for you to see live. Because we actually are in a. We're in a practical studio. It's a real studio, right? We're doing it old fashioned here. We're literally live. And then we actually built a studio. That's a real thing, right? It's a real map, it's a real flag, it's real books and it's a real studio. And we really do feel right now that sense in the country that there is a letdown. And this is sort of natural and it happens with every single election that you sort of ride off of a high and then that high has to come down to a crash. If you have little kids, you know that when they get pumped full of sugar at the state fair, there is a massive manic moment and then a crash when reality sets in. And that happens all the time. And I think it is accelerated right now because Charlie was killed. I think that that crash hurts more because Charlie's gone. And Charlie was a major access point for the base, into the White House, into the mind of Trump, into the administration, and was also someone who wielded a very big stick. Turning Point usa. His audience, the incredible movement that was behind Charlie, his tens of millions of social media followers, those could all be wielded on behalf of the base and what the base wants and what they see as a priority. And Charlie could take that into the administration. Very few can. Very few had that kind of a dial up and that kind of a seismic meter that they measure earthquakes in. Charlie had one of those for the MAGA base. And what happens in DC, and I've seen it happen because I've lived in DC and I've been doing this for 25 years. What happens is you get to DC and the sand gets chucked into the gears and it grinds everything, all of your dreams and everything that you wanted, all the positive momentum, it grinds to a halt. You've seen that in the government shutdown and you lose track. You start focusing on D.C. priorities instead of the priorities of the American people. It's completely natural. It's DC is designed this way. If I could maybe change one thing about America's founding, I changed so much, actually, about America's founding. Here's one of the things I put as, like, a major priority. I would not have a capital city. I would like. The entire promise of America was that they dilute infraction power. Maybe the legislature would have to meet, but they should meet in Kansas. And the Department of Energy should be in Texas, and the partner of war should be in, like, upstate New York. Right. And the Department of Natural Resources should be in California. There should not be one centralized federal city. That's insane. And I've lived there, man. And I'm. I just traveled back from there, and I'm going back there again. I'm gonna have to call constantly, go back there again. And I just met with the White House, and I can tell you there is something happens inside of that place. No matter how many good people are in charge that place, because it is run by the left, because it is run by dark energy, because it's run by demonic forces, there is a pressure that weighs on you, and it's there. It's a force field that manipulates reality. You saw it. You could see people like Elon Musk go there and like Elon Musk go there and just completely crash out. Right after living there for just a little bit, after being there for just a little bit, some really good people go nuts, and it breaks them. And I'll tell you what, it broke me. I'm a. I'm a. I'm like a very different person. Having moved to Florida, having moved to a place that is bright and light and filled with Christians and filled with people that are, like, aligned with God or at least trying their best families that are, like, raising their children. It is a sunken place, that city, and it's designed to manipulate reality and to disconnect you from the base. My advice right now, and I'm not going to go after Trump for one thing or another, but you know what you're. What you're watching, obviously, is a little bit of the administration trying to find their footing and trying to reconnect with the MAGA base because they've lost. They're out of step. And so that. That is something that falls to us. Now, we're not Charlie, we never will be, but it's something that falls to us to pick up a piece of the mantle and to carry it forward. That's why I was meeting with the White House for five hours on Friday to, like, go in and to Box the ears and to, like, demand to, like, bang my. My fists on the table and demand action. Uncertain major priorities. And I got a chill through my skull and bones when I saw this this morning. Put it up. Here's the final policy prescription that Charlie.
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Charlie posted this and three weeks later, he was murdered. Was there a connection? I don't know exactly. At this point, I just don't know. Is there a connection? I'll just go out and say it. Yeah, of course there's a connection. Of course there's a connection. Charlie Kirk was murdered because of this. Whether you believe that it's Tyler Robinson just hating Charlie Kirk and his tweaker, furry, transgender boyfriend for what he stood for, and this is what Charlie stands for. Or if you believe in a greater and broader. The Fed just cut interest rates and history shows us what happens next. Gold and silver often explodes higher while the dollar sinks lower. When the Fed gambles and many smart Americans turn to real, tangible gold and silver assets, the markets just go gold, as they say. And right now, Advantage Gold is making it even easier to help protect yourself. They put together an urgent 2025 gold and silver report and they're giving away up to $10,000 in free silver when you qualify. This is your chance to help protect your retirement with physical gold and silver that you can actually hold in your hands. You can Even use your IRA, 401k or tsp to do it legally and penalty free. Don't wait while the Fed keeps rolling the dice with your savings and the value of the dollar. Text Benny to 85545 right now to claim your free Gold 2025 Gold and Silver report and find out how you can qualify for $10,000 in silver bonuses. That's Benny to 85545. And claim $10,000 of free silver today if you qualify. Message and data rates apply. Performance varies. Always consult your financial and tax professional. Or conspiracy of evil, which I also believe in. I totally believe in that. Does it mean that there's foreign governments involved and everything like that? Let's let the trial play out. Okay, let's let the trial play out. I'm going to, like, reserve my judgment until I see all the evidence. But does it mean that the forces of evil wanted to stop Charlie and were using what was clearly demonically possessed young men in order to do so?
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Yes, there was a broader conspiracy of evil against Charlie, and I believe it happened on a spiritual level. How much of that was played out. On a physical level. Let's let the trial happen. But on a spiritual level, the spirits of evil wished to destroy Charlie because of policy prescriptions like this. As far as I know, the final policy prescription of Charlie is right here on screen. This is the social compact breaking down. Charlie says literally days before he's shot and killed. We need urgency to restore it chills because I featured this without knowing that this tweet existed. I featured this data on the show yesterday. We need mass deportations. Stop the H1B scam. I'll go a step further. H1BS should be banned. There should be no H1BS in America. Dramatically reduce legal immigration or stop all legal immigration. I agree with that. And chain migration and visa lottery, obviously, yes. And can be done with a stroke of a pen. Build 10 million homes for Americans. Absolutely. Urban containment is a huge problem. We don't have time to talk about it, but it is a massive problem. We're going to speak out against it and crush the college cartels. And he's posting the data we talked about yesterday. Estimated percentage of 30 year olds who are both married and homeowners. 55% in the decade after World War.
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Down to 10%. 5% today. That is the wholesale destruction of the American dream. That is taking the American dream, ghetto Izing it and killing it. This is the wholesale and total complete destruction of what we all perceive as the American dream. Is Streamyard glitching out for you, Klein? Is that what's happening? It's very strange. Okay, so we apologize. We use. We use it. Put them on. Let's put. Yeah, just apologize to the chat. I'll just apologize the chat. On behalf of our entire team here. We use a. We use technology called Streamyard. Now, there's a big debate at our company right now as to whether we should switch that technology, but it seems to be glitching out this morning. Obviously, this is now the secondary glitch. And so let me just cruise along here. Let me just cruise along here so that we can get to this critical conversation about the pipe bomber. But you want to talk about a bombshell and our society, here it is. Why is this so important? You're going to hear me talk about this, and I'm sorry. And if you're. If you're upset about it or if you don't care, then you're gonna have a tough, you know, we love you, but, like, you just understand that I am going to be focused on this data because this was the last thing that Charlie and I were working on together. This is the last, like Charlie. I'm not going to be sharing my text messages with Charlie. So is it doing it again? Okay, I'm not going to be sharing my text messages to Charlie with Charlie. But I'm telling you, this is the final thing that we were working on. Why? If you can't own a home, you can't start a family. If you can't start a family, you can't have children or grandchildren. All available data shows us that that is actually what brings lasting joy and happiness in life. That is what God commands of young men and women. His first commandment is to go out, be fruitful and multiply. You can't do that in a one room apartment. You can't do that in a frat house. You can't do that in a group house. You can't do that if you are on a nihilistic renting super cycle into darkness. You can't do that. If you're listening to some commentators saying that you don't deserve to live in your hometown. You don't deserve to live across the street from your grandparents graves, in the homes that they built, fought for, bled for, died for in creating this nation. This is the single largest existential crisis combined and mirrored with all other available data. Ladies and gentlemen, this is the end of the American dream. Charlie saw it clear as day. Charlie and I were working on solving this problem and Charlie was killed. And so we are going to continue that work. We are going to be talking about it and pushing and using the big stick that we have on this show with millions and millions of subscribers in order to push for policy prescriptions that save this country and save our future. Ladies and gentlemen, that is what it's all about. You are an immoral nation and an immoral generation. If you don't leave the country, better off for your kids than you found it. And that is something that we have said on this show and that is the purpose of our show. And so this is us carrying forward that purpose. Ladies and gentlemen. Christian care is something that I do in order to ensure that I care for my children, that I have medical coverage for my children. They have been exceptional. My wife and I have welcomed four babies in four years into the world. Come on, let's shoot for five, right? Let's go, baby. Let's see. This is not an announcement. It's just like a statement of my desire. Four babies in four years and Metashare has been there for us every step of the way. Having a kid is very expensive. It shouldn't be. Having a kid is, well, you know, it's a little scary. And that's just the way it's designed. Okay. And Medishare makes it easy. Made it easy for my wife and I. We love this company. It's a Christian company. More than a million Americans now are using Metashare as a great option. They've been in business for 30 years.
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Got a lot of stuff in that question there, Benny. And thank you very much for having me on this morning. No problem with the late start. When you talk about it being an operation, there's, there's no doubt in my mind it's an operation. You look at the two pipe bombs are identical in construction. They're placed specifically, I think, for them to be, to be identified and located ahead of time, to be a distraction to divert my resources away from the capital at the most strategic time that we need them. There's nobody that wants to see this pipe bomber identified more than me. The timing couldn't have been worse for the impact it had on my security posture on the Hill. So I absolutely think it's a, an operation. Who's behind it that's, you know, still wait. Wait to be seen. You know, I've seen, you know, Steve Baker's report. I've seen the Tommy Mass, Tom Massey front cover letter that you just went over for me. What this screams is what everybody's been saying. You, we, we want answers. We just would like to hear some answers. I'm not here to, you know, as a Capitol Police chief, and you know me, Benny, I've always talked from fact. If I know information, I'm going to provide it to you. People want to know, you know, you've identified somebody. It seems like it'd be fairly easy to come out and say, hey, this is the evidence that we have to support it. This the evidence we have to refute it. Let's, you know, take care of that and let's move on. And it's, it gets concerning. It's just taking too long to do that. So I think, you know, the more you wait, the longer people wait for answers, the more they fill those gaps with, with things in their head with, you know, what's the operation, who's doing it, why was it planned?
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Yes. So, okay, this is very interesting. Can you please talk me through the construction of these pipe bombs. Were they actual operable bombs? You started your statement here by saying they weren't.
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Oh, I don't think I started my statement saying they weren't operable. I just, I started my statement saying they were I think designed specifically to be, to be detected. So when you look at them.
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Okay, so yeah, please explain what does that mean?
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Yeah, so the analysis. I've seen one. They're built to be pipe bombs. You had the, you know, pipe bomb is going to have the, the cylinder, the carrying device, which was a galvanized steel pipe which is often used in pipe bombs. The two end caps screwed on. You've got the wiring, you've got, yeah, there you go. You've got, you've got the timing device. Was the timing device properly set? It's everything for if someone to look at it. It screams pipe bomb. It had a, it had not a full. Usually pipe bombs to be fully. If you want the most bang for the buck. Sorry my, my terminology, you pack it with the black powder and then you put the end caps on very carefully. This didn't seem to be packed with black powder. From what I understand the analysis, it had enough. So, you know, a, a canine something would trigger on it. So I think it was there specifically to be detected. I don't know, you know, of what the, the viability of just how much of lethality it have if it actually exploded. But it was built, it was designed to, to work. If there was. I believe somebody's talked about there being being a problem with the timer. Again, I've, I've overseen bomb squads. I've never been attack. I've never gone to Huntsville and been certified myself. But it has all the, all the markings of a pipe bomb. Something to distract into and, and cause resources to be pulled to it.
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So your contention is that it was designed in order to overtly scream. This is a, this is a bomb find me. And then placed. Obviously this isn't hiding. Whoever's putting this somewhere isn't hiding. This is the photo of the one behind the rnc. And this is in no way hiding. You could have hit it under the rat trap. You could have hit it behind the garbage bin. You could have put it behind the fencing there. This is placed just directly on the ground. The reason the timer is so strange and the reason why people are saying some have come on this program like Julie Kelly to talk about the inoperability of them, is that how does a pipe bomb get set on July 5th with a 60 minute timer to go off on July six? I'm on January 6th at noon. That doesn't make any sense.
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Yeah, I tend to agree. Again, that's some of the questions that people are looking to have answered. You know, was it actually set there and placed on the fifth? These are things that people want to know you have.
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The video of somebody walking around, somebody out there you know, scoping it, you know, putting them down. People have said, well maybe they came back and actually put them in place in the six with the, with the timer. I agree it's a very rudimentary timer system. The max amount of time it's going to give you is 60 minutes.
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How do you do that on the 5th? So I tend to agree with you. There's, it's still a lot of questions to be answered. But it'd be nice just to start, you know, getting some, some information.
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Since you were the Capitol Hill, since you were the Capitol Police chief at the time and since you have been very public about saying that you believe that these pipe bombs were placed, whether they're operable or not, they look and have the feel of a bomb. They were designed to clearly signal this is a bomb. You say that they were placed in order to distract your officers and to deplete your resources. Can you explain that?
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100% believe that when you, when you think about it, first pipe bomb and is identified at 12:42pm that's not, that's 11 minutes before we. The right gets out of control. On the west front at 12:53. That couldn't have been a worse timing for that. We had sent resources over there and it's not just bomb tech resources. We're sending pre personnel over there to evacuate the buildings, evacuate the rnc, the dnc. We have the Cannon House Office Building that faces, they have a whole side that faces the opening to the alley that now we got to move resources and people out, out of there because it was occupied. So that's taken a significant amount of resources. And then we have the second pipe bomb that shows up. So as a chief of police, I'm in the command center. I'm seeing one pipe bomb, I'm seeing a second pipe bomb. What's going through my head? When's the third pipe? I'm going to show up. We're waiting for a tertiary device to be out there. Anybody in the right mind be thinking of it. So now we have people scam, you know, searching everywhere across the campus seeing if we may have something else out there. So again, it's a cascading effect on the resources I have taking resource and I had limited resources on the, on the perimeter. 273 officers on my perimeter. That's why I'd asked for National Guard on January 3, asked for National Guards repeated on January 6 because I knew we were being depleted and we knew we were having problems on the west front.
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So when it comes to the theories that are available right now on the, on the Internet, based on the blaze reporting and based on a number of other individuals independently sleuthing, there is a theory that a Capitol Police officer was engaged in the planting of these pipe bombs in a larger overall conspiracy. Can you speak to that, since you clearly know your officers and you know this agency and you were the police chief on that day?
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So, you know, I've read the, the Steve Baker report, gone through it. I've looked at it. You know, again, it, it provides. He provides some evidence why he believes it's that individual officer. Again, like I said, I try and speak from facts. You'd think that with the information he's providing, we'd be able to get some, either some, you know, that kind of confirmation this is the person, or they'd be able to quickly come out and refute it. So for me, you know, having been the head of the agency, I don't want to come, you know, it's not my place to come in and say, you know, I'm going to pass judgment right up based on a press release or an article from a reporter. I want to see some facts. I want to see some facts from our law enforcement agencies. You know, coming in and saying, hey, we support or we refute this information. This is why, you know, provide, provide the evidence. And I'm not the only one that's saying that I think the American people deserve.
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Seems like a very easy thing to do, to just simply rule out certain individuals, simply state that this. There, there's no evidence here, or there is a lot of evidence here, but I just, we haven't heard anything. And so what does that tell you?
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You have one individual suspect that's been identified. At this point, it seems like it'd be easy to come in and say, hey, based on, you know, the time of day, where she was, anything like that, you'd be able to provide an alibi and, you know, hey, case closed. Now we're going to focus our resources elsewhere. And I think the longer, the longer you wait to get a statement about it, I think the more people begin to think, okay, hey, what's, what's really going on here? So if it is the case and the officer's innocent, you know, they deserve, you know, to be cleared as quickly as possible. And I would like to see some statement come out.
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You have provided evidence for someone else who was clearly complicit, either wantonly or through incompetence or malevolence, I'm not sure. And I'd really love to find out. Nancy Pelosi's role in January 6th. The evidence that you've provided is right here, pinned it to the top of your ex feed that Delineates every single time you called Nancy Pelosi for help on that day, and every single denied request from Nancy Pelosi's office. Denied, denied, denied, denied, denied, denied. You would think with pipe bombs being discovered and a riot at the Capitol and a breach of the Capitol and the National Guard situation, that you would be getting your answers, your answers immediately, and you'd be getting your calls picked up, but that wasn't the case. What does that tell you?
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And to make it even worse, think about it. I'm sitting here in my office at home, kind of where you see my wall behind me, the Capitol Police board, which is who by law, I have to go through to get that permission to bring in any resources, has liaison sitting right behind me, watching everything I'm seeing up on the command center. Up on the screens of the command center, I'm getting repeated denials. So I'm denied. On January 3rd, I'm denied twice. Specifically, on January 3rd, the Pentagon offers. So when they say President Trump offered 10,000 troops, I don't know how many offered, but I can tell you for a fact the Pentagon called my office offering National Guard support. And by law, I had to turn it down because I hadn't been given authorization. And then on January 6th, we come under attack. At 12:53, 12:58, I make my first call to Paul Irving, who's the House sergeant, armed, speaking of, Pelosi's represented. And it's. And what I get, I'm going to run it up the chain. Repeatedly denied. Nine more calls. 71 minutes until I'm finally approved. And if anybody doubts that's the case, ask yourself, why did Congress change the law to us 1970. That required me to go through them 11 months later, and now gives the chief authorization to make that call on his own. They've admitted the guilt. They. They just haven't come out and said, you know, sorry, we're sorry, what you went through.
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I've. I'm gonna have two other members of Congress on the show today, but I'd love to get your take on this. Chief Sund, should Nancy Pelosi be investigated? Should she be called in to Barry Loudermilk's committee? Do you have questions you would like to ask her about that day?
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I think there's. There's questions that need to be asked. I think the committee knows my questions that I would ask of her if given the opportunity. And, yeah, I think as a member of Congress, absolutely, she should answer questions. What concerns me, as you look at the original January 6, select committee, Benny Thompson came out and stated specifically Speaker Pelosi's cell phones and, and testimony is off limits. If you want to do a full investigation, why are you going to make the speaker of the House off limits? That's. That's concerning. So I would honestly think that you'd want to bring in somebody like that to have them answer questions.
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If you don't mind. Would you elucidate for our audience? What would you ask Nancy Pelosi?
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Well, a couple of key things. One, I'm calling her representative to the Capitol Police Board, Paul Irving. Did Paul Irving talk to her? How many times did he talk to her? Did he talk to her chief of staff? Did he talk to, you know, some of her senior advisors? What information was getting to her? And why couldn't I get an answer? That'd be number one. What information, what intelligence had she been given in advance of January 6th had. You know, there's. There's now indisputable fact that General Mark Milley had been regularly in contact with Speaker Pelosi. What information did Mark Milley pride Speaker Pelosi in advance? These are some questions that I'd love to know the answer to.
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Final question for you, Chief Sundance. This is also breaking news out of the committee demanding that Kamala Harris's Secret Service come in and answer questions about their behavior that day, which has struck many as exceedingly odd. Now, we have the clips and we have the footage, so we'll pop it up. But it's very strange that Kamala Harris's Secret Service, after being notified that there was a pipe bomb within feet of Kamala Harris, didn't do anything. In fact, they finished their lunches and in their cars, they allowed children to walk by. They allowed man walking his dog, trains to run. It was a very. It's very peculiar behavior for a Secret Service to allow these kind of things to have. There was no urgency at all. It's very strange. What do you, what do you. Do you have any explanation for this as to why they would be so nonchalant?
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Yeah. So I, I must agree with you. It is very, very concerning. So before I became Capitol Police chief, I was with D.C. police for 25, a little over 25 years, and I ran the special operation for five of those years. The marked MPD car that you see, there was one. You know, there was. Those are my officers. I've handled hundreds of suspicious packages. I've handled hundreds of presidential details. Either POTUS vice president. And I can tell you that response is very concerning. I'D love to know one. What did the individual say to the officer? Because you see him walk up to the side of the marked police car. Say something, officer. The officer nonchalantly says, hey, go around the other side. Tell the Secret Service officer, agent, he walks around, tells, I'd love to hear. Do you say, hey, it looks like you guys have a pipe bomb over there. Because if that's the case, that is way outside of protocol. You know, immediately, let me tell you, you go, you know, you go to pucker factory. You're out there, you're trying to find out what's going on. You're setting up a perimeter, you're pushing people out. It's a set set of protocols that go on. And then you find out, is your protectee, where are they in the building? Are they on that side of the building? You move them to protection really quickly. You're not seeing that, you're not seeing no sense of urgency and that I agree with you, that is concerning and that is not how we, we, we plan. We practice for handling suspicious devices on presidential, on dignitary details.
A
Before you go, just in closing, based on the amount of focus on this new evidence, new whistleblowers in action, the FBI released eight minutes of brand new footage and video. Apparently there's much more video that hasn't been released of the pipe bomber for some inexplicable reason, I don't know why. What is your take? What is your final gut take, sir? Since you've served for decades. Correct. In the Capitol Police or in uniformed police, what is your final take? What does your gut say about what was happening that night?
C
So, well, so my, my gut is regardless if it's this individual or another, you know, we, we're 58 months into this since this occurred. You know, we need to hunker down and we need to, you know, you know, if we got to start this investigation from square one, you know, let's start it from square one. Let's get some answers. You're just, you know, you're able to identify so many people across the, we're on the hill, down in the hill that day and, and, and go after them. But you can't find this one person who you seem to have a fair amount of information on. It just, it raised a lot of concerns and I think the quicker they can get answers, they can alleviate some of these concerns and some of these conspiracy people series that people may be coming up with or. Let's just get to the bottom of this. I just, I have A hard time believing we can't identify this person. So hopefully they can. And hopefully this reinvigorates that. All this attention, Benny, I hope it just reinvigorates the people that need to be doing this investigation to get out there and properly do it.
A
Yes, we'd love to see it. We'd love to see a lot of things, but this was a particularly evil and dark day, and it'd be nice to close the chapter on what actually happened. Thank God for you, Chief Steven Sund. You can follow him right here. He's had nearly 100,000 subscribers on X. He's a man that deserves his pension. He deserves to have an honorable place in the Trump administration. I'm going to advocate for that, Chief. And we'd love. We'd love to see you back in action. You should. You should be the viceroy of Washington, D.C. in A. In a. In a new and clean and crisp city. We'd be in favor of that. Godspeed, sir.
C
Thank you. Thank you very much, Benny. Godspeed.
A
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D
Look, Republicans are going to take care of that. Now that the Senate's done, we're going to take the ball, get this thing back open. I mean, I would anticipate probably five, five or maybe 10 Democrats will vote with us, but we're going to get this done today.
A
Done. Today, the government reopens. Today, that bill goes to the president.
D
That's right.
A
That's the plan. Okay, Hakeem, Jeffrey's out screaming that he ain't going to let it happen because he wants to give illegals Obamacare. Is that, is there any chance of that Ashley sticking?
D
No. I mean, that's just Hakeem just running his mouth. Listen, this whole thing has been really sad. We're 40 what, 41, 42 days into a shutdown. Flights are being canceled. People are not getting SNAP and WIC benefits, soldiers haven't been paid, all because the Democrats are trying to prove that they're tough. And that's really what's sad. And look, this whole thing about health care, I know that there are some who saying, well, Byron, let's not get into health care discussions. No, we got to get into it. Health care premiums in this country have gone through the roof because of the Democrats health care plan. And I'll say it again, it is their health care plan because that's the one that's federal law now that has led to premiums going through the roof, deductibles going through the roof. People are having to choose between paying their rent and paying for insurance. That's crazy and that is pushing downward pressure on young kids just getting out of college, trying to get ahead in America, putting pressure on sole proprietors, people on 1099 who don't work at a Wells Fargo, they don't work at an AT&T where they have large group health insurance plans to cover them. These people are struggling. And what's the Democrat solution? More subsidies to just cover up what's already happening. And look, there's people out there who are saying right now, even with these subsidies, it still won't actually drive down the cost of health insurance because the costs are out of control. Because Obamacare was never about affordability, it was about control of the health insurance markets and sending billions of dollars to health insurance companies.
A
You say you want to get into it. So let's talk about one of the biggest critical failures of my lifetime that I've ever seen. As like maybe one of the saddest days ever to be a Republican was John McCain's little thumbs down situation. But also Republicans didn't really have a great plan. There are many senators have been on our show saying ah, like we were trying to make something happen but we really didn't have a really smart strategy for how that was going to work. Probably would have been better than Obamacare. But what should Republicans do to actually fix this? Is it fixable?
D
It is fixable. I think first it's about health savings accounts. I think the President was going down this line saying let's just give the dollars directly to people so they can go and purchase from health insurance companies. Look, if you look at any segment of our economy where people have the money to make their own purchasing decisions, those prices are actually rising less than the rate of inflation. Prices in those industries are actually down. But when you have massive government subsidies, the prices always go through the roof. And that's the problem in our health care system. So it's about patient centered health insurance where people are actually buying the plans that they need, not the plans that Washington say it says that they're going to get. I think there is major room for catastrophic health care plans. Look, if you're under the age of 45, you don't really need major blue blue. You don't really need major gold plated health insurance. What you need is a low cost plan where you can go do visits and get some routine testing and then you need a catastrophic plan in case something major happens and you have ability to pay a deductible and take care of that. But these bronze plans that are $2,000 a month. That's crazy, Benny, but that's what's happening across America. I think the bedrock of what Republicans should do is that we should start with catastrophic. Start with people being able to actually buy these plans directly. If you have to give them the dollars to do that, let's do that. Because in Florida we're doing that when it comes to education. We're actually got. We actually are getting out of the business of sending the money to the school districts and then tell the parents that's where you send your kids to go to school. That's what school choice and parental empowerment is all about. It's about giving parents the purchasing power to make educational decisions. And we need to do the same thing in healthcare. Give people the purchasing power so they can make healthcare decisions. And then you'll have a marketplace that I believe you'll actually see premiums come down because people will be buying what they are looking for as opposed to buying what they were told to buy. Whether it's a bronze plan or a silver plan or a gold plan.
A
Yeah, I mean you bring up such a great point there that like young people really aren't focused that much on health care. It is actually an older generation coded issue. Young people are really focused on housing. They want to get started with the American dream. Of course you can't bring your new bride home to the group house or the frat house. You don't want to raise a family in a one room apartment. You don't want to raise kids with 100 strangers in a building nihilistically renting. This is the inability for young people to buy homes is robbing us of the American dream. Here's some data that is just crippling for me to see. And it's the last piece of data that Charlie Kirk actually posted on this issue days before he died saying the American dream has been stolen from young people.
D
Yeah.
A
And that young people just aren't able to buy homes or get families started. Now you talk about give out giveaways to the college cartel and to universities. The federal government's very much in the business of that of pushing trillions of dollars of student loans and trillions of dollars to university, but does virtually nothing for housing and for encouraging of young people to get started with housing. This is a crisis. I'm going over solutions with a lot of different parties, but I wanted to talk with you about it. Maybe on a federal level, national level and then on a Florida level. How would you approach first time home buying and incentivizing it?
D
Well, look, when it comes to first time home buying, my, my solutions are, number one, the cost of permitting to build these homes. We have to build a lot of homes in our country. The solution is not rent control. That's the Democrat playbook. It doesn't work. It only leads to higher prices for everybody. You have to break down the regulatory burden to, to procure raw materials to actually build housing on the federal level, there needs to be NEPA reform to make it easier to build these homes to the regulatory framework about making, making houses green has only driven up the cost of construction which drives up the cost of these homes, making it harder for young people to get them or people on the lower end or the middle end of our economic spectrum to be able to acquire these homes. That's very destructive. Three, on the local level, this is one of the things in my campaign for governor, we, we are going to overhaul permitting and planning in our state. It can't take you two years to put a shovel in the ground to build a home because that dead time of permitting and government bureaucracy, all that does is add to the cost of building the housing. Four, you got to have parts of any state in the country where you do have some dense housing. That's your entry level. Housing helps people get in the game. You do have to find ways to do that. And I think that when you have people who are saying no more growth, no more construction, what you actually are doing is you're driving up the cost for young people trying to get in the game. But let me get off housing and let me get to something that's really important for young people. Let's talk about jobs. Our K12 system has failed our young people. If you look at mastery in mathematics, mastery in writing, mastery in reading, our young people are not graduating high school being economically viable. They are not being prepared in the K12 system. This is one of the reasons why I support school choice so vehemently. Because they're not being prepared in the K12 system for the economy to come. And then they're coming out and they're graduating and they're wondering why? How come I'm not getting this job? How come I'm not making more money to be able to get in the game on the American dream? We have all the talent, Benny, in America, all the talent we could possibly need. Our one of our core problems is our educational establishment. Teachers unions, bureaucrats. They have failed a generation of young people. And they're not just prepared. We have the talent, but they've never been trained to be able to do these things. And it's creating a major issue. You couple that with the visa problems that we have, H1BS, those are a scam. Those have gotta go. Diversity, lotteries, I've been opposed to those things. But for 15 years, chain migration, it's got to go too. So many of these things have actually been set up by Democrats who want open borders, by corporations that want cheap labor. And it has fallen on young people in America. And it's got to change. It's got to stop.
A
So this is a great, great subject matter that you brought up here because all throughout my timeline is President Trump saying that we need more H1Bs or more skilled labor brought into the country because we don't have the talent here. What's your take on that? That was from Laura Ingram last night.
D
Look, my take is, is that we have the, we have the talent, but the talent hasn't been trained right in our education system. We have a K12 education system that, that does not prioritize mastery. Mastery, of course, subject matter.
A
Like apprenticeships. Like apprenticeships. Industries, H vac, plumbing, roofing, all of it.
D
Yes, but that. And it's also, if you're going to look, if you go to talk to the colleges and universities, and I got my bone to pick with them too, but one of the big issues they're having to do is remediate our high school students to get them prepared for college algebra. So if you have, if you're coming in freshman year of college and you're having to go sit in college algebra to be remediated, how is that same student going to be prepared to do engineering, math, to design the chips, design the weapon systems, the drone technologies, AI quantum computing, and all the stuff that America does need to get done to get into the game. So you have young Americans being caught in this lurch where they have a piece of paper from a four year university and that piece of paper is not meeting up with the economic reality in America today. And that's why what the President said last night, I think the way I look at it is it's a failure of education first and foremost. And, and then it is a failure of the current immigration system which needed to be overhauled 30 years ago, that Senate Democrats and House Democrats do not want to do because they want wide open borders to change the demographics of this nation from a political perspective. And I want to stress that that's a reality we're facing. And now young people are caught in the lurch. So we got multiple issues Here we got to fix Benny. This is one of the reasons I support ending the filibuster. It wasn't even about the shutdown anymore, which is going to end today. It's not about that. What it's about are energy reforms, we need housing reforms that we need spending reforms so we're not blowing out budgets here on Capitol Hill, which are decreasing the purchasing power of every American, making things more expensive. And then our educational systems, K12 have not prepared our young people now in Florida, we're going to reverse that trend. I want to see mastery for every one of our kids and, and core subject matter when they graduate high school. So when they graduate, when they walk that stage with their high school diploma, they're economically viable, whether that's going to university or that's going directly into the workforce. Having a trade that puts real money on the table so they can buy that home, put food on the table and raise a family and live out the American dream.
A
This seems like such a smart tact because to say that Americans aren't talented enough. We put a dude on the moon, right? Like we, like, like we, we created space travel, flight, like that's not. That's empirically and untrue. Right. Actually, there's tons of talent in this country. There are certainly failures of systems in order to meet and match the moment. But the, the solution to that shouldn't be infinity. Third world foreign migration. Right?
D
I totally agree with that.
A
To replace American jobs, which with what is effectively indentured servitude in the H1B program. Go talk to anybody in Silicon Valley. They'll tell you it's just a scam. It's a scam in order to abuse workers for cheap labor.
D
The H1B system is a complete scam. It is. We now know that to be the case. What we have to also look at the entire immigration visa framework. We have like 56 visas. They all need a complete overhaul. We do like this, like chain migration needs to go. Like I remember back, Benny, 15 years ago when I started learning about immigration, one of my main points was we actually need to end it and get back to get back to a quota system and immigration in the United States. Look, there is a place for legal immigration in our country. There is a place for it, but it can't be to the detriment of American, America's workers and America's young people coming into the workforce. And that's what's happened in American immigration. It does need a complete overhaul. Scams like H1B need to end. But that's where we are today. The fixes. How do you get it done? You need 60 votes in the Senate. Are Senate Democrats going to get to these real reforms that are going to impact not just the quality of life of young people, but helping them to get in the game on achieving and living out the American dream? Like, my son is 22, Benny, my oldest son. I'm not talking about this as some guy on Capitol Hill. I'm watching it in real time. My youngest, my oldest son is 22. My youngest son is 14. My middle one's 18. I'm thinking about their futures too. We have real solutions, but we got to get real. The Senate filibuster is not going to help us get there. It's time to get real agenda items done for the American people.
A
Okay, so filibuster goes away. Let's take a hypothetical here. Filibuster goes away. And I see there's a lot of bickering online about what should be happening with Our immigration system, H1B system. Where would you set legal immigration caps? Where would you Want to see H1B visa reform? Like, what would be your approach to H1B visa reform and legal immigration caps? Obviously, I think everyone agrees we must close the border and illegal immigration should be zero deportations of all criminal aliens here in this country. I think we can all agree on that.
B
Right?
A
So then how do you, how would you approach the legal immigration and visa program?
D
H1BS need to go away. They need to end. That's number one complete. Number two, you are the going to quotas is absolutely what we need to do. We should look at every country in the world and say we need 500, we need 1,000 or whatever the case might be. One of the bills that I filed in previous Congresses, we're going to file it again. This Congress is creating a biometric exit system. The 911 Commission, actually in their, in their report, they said that the United States needs a biometric entry and exit system in visas. We created the entry system, we never created the exit system. So how does the United States even know when somebody who's here on a three year visa, a five year visa, a six month visa, how do we even know when they leave? The truth is we don't. So I think you have to have a quota system coupled with a biometric exit system. So let's take, let's take China, let's take Japan, for example. If we give Japan 2000 visas per year and then through our biometric exit system, we see that only 700 Japanese returned. We're not going to give you 2000 the next year. Now you get 1300. Or because you only 700 went, now you only get the 1300, you get the difference because those countries have to help us make sure their foreign nationals go back home. I think that's how you set legal immigration into the future. Birthright citizenship, I've always been opposed to it. I think birthright citizenship really is an anathema to the 14th amendment.
A
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D
Because black slaves are the ones who truly were here through no fault of their own. The 14th was so that black slaves could have citizenship in the United States because. And we don't need to go down the history on that one. And so birthright citizenship is something that's never really been passed by Congress. Never been passed by Congress. It's an interpretation that's just been allowed to persist. So you got to end that one. One of your parents has to be a citizen in order for you to have, quote, unquote, birthright citizenship. Benny, if I was, if my wife. If my wife was pregnant and we were traveling and our kid was born in, let's say, France, the light went out, it's fine. And let's say that our, our child was born in France, our child wouldn't be a French citizen. They would be a US Citizen. France wouldn't recognize that. So those are the things that we have to do there. But it's that and so much more. Guest worker. Yeah. There needs to be real reforms in guest worker visas. Are there some seasonal workers that we need in the country? Yes, but there has to be a process where they come in, they do the job, and they go back home. It can't be what we have, where people just come, they overstay their visas, which before Joe BIDEN Let in 15 million illegals, it was visa overstays were the number one reason for illegal immigration in the United States of America. So the immigration process has to be completely overhauled top to bottom. That those are some of the solutions. There are many, many more. And then when you do that, it's talking about ending the filibuster energy policy. We need nuclear power, Benny. We need small modular reactors. We got to get that done. When it comes to procuring Raw materials for housing. We have every ability to do that. We shouldn't even be importing it. But we can't be killing ourselves with an outdated regulatory burden. That's not helping the American people. There's so many things that have to be fixed. But the Senate filibuster is an albatross to getting that work done.
B
Yeah.
A
I just want to ask a follow up on one point that you made, which is to end H1B.
D
Yeah.
A
If you do that, then you're going to have to go to corporate America, Silicon Valley, and you're going to have to explain that because those, those there are entire industries, swaths of industries that have obscene profits based on their ability to screw over the Native American worker that is just as talented or more talented for infinity. Foreign workers. Yeah. That probably actually have no talent but are here to work for cheap. Right. And can. And can, you know, enter numbers onto a ledger and they subsist. These entire industries subsist off of that model, off of an indentured servitude H1B model that obviously I view as immoral, actually. But you're going to have to explain that. So, so you're saying end all H1B visas. What should happen for people that are currently here on an H1B visa? And what would that, what would your explanation to the. That those industries look like?
D
Well, I think first people who are already here, there's going to be, there's going to have to be a clearinghouse process on that. And that's to be determined how that's going to look. I think for the companies, they need to understand that America, that immigration is for America. It's not for foreign nationals. It is for America and what America needs, what America workers needs and really for the vitality of the future of our country. And what's really happened in immigration the last 60 years in America, this is not even a new phenomena. We're just now dealing with all of the issues of the phenomena. But America, immigration over the last 60 years has not been about the American people people. It has been about cheap labor for corporations and it's been about radical open borders for Democrats. And it has not actually been to the priority of the American people. So look, we want companies to come here, we want them to thrive, we want them to flourish. But it can't be to the detriment of the American dream and Americans being able to put food on the table.
A
I mean that is what the top.
D
I mean, there's nothing else to say, Benny. That's it Ain't nothing else to say.
A
That's it. Yeah, that's exactly right. And you know, you have to ask yourself the question, question like, what exactly are these, who exactly are these policies benefiting? They sure as hell aren't benefiting the American worker, the American family, home prices, food prices, the capacity to know your neighbors or have a shared or harmonious culture, to be able to speak even the same language as your neighbors. Like, these are not the things that these policies benefit. And yeah, I, J.D. vance made a lot of news last week and I was there at the speech at Ole Miss when he said, yeah, I think that maybe we should, we should maybe go back to effectively zero net immigration until we figure things out. Until we, until we, like, cool down as a, as a culture and a society and let things rest a bit.
B
Right?
A
Because there's been such an insane influx and it's been destabilizing, frankly.
D
Well, Benny, real quick, to that point, I understand the thought on that and why the Vice President's going down that line. I think that the reason why this is being exacerbated to this degree is because of what Joe Biden allowed and Kamala Harris and the Democratic left allowed the last four years. When you let 15 million people illegally come into the country, it overwhelms every system. It overwhelms hospitals, it overwhelms schools. It, it overwhelms local budgets. It actually depresses labor, it depresses wages and labor at the bottom end of the economic spectrum, directly impacting poor Americans and Americans who are just working hard to try to make ends meet, it impacts housing. Because when you have Democrats in these states who are basically giving governmental money, which is money of the American people to illegals to put them up in hotels and put them up in apartments, that just raises the, raises the cost of housing. So all of these things that have occurred the last four years are why we're in this situation now. So I think what we do need is we need a cooling off period. I do agree with that. This is why we have to go to a quota system in immigration. I firmly believe that we have to do that. Got to go to a quota system. These, all these visa programs need reform. The mass deportations part of this has to continue. The elite, the criminal aliens gotta go. The people who came in the last four years, they're gonna have to go home too, because in short, there's no more room at the end. And when you have this amount of people who were artificially dumped into the United States by Radical Democrat policy. It puts a strain on every other resource that the American people are trying to fight for as well.
A
That reflects the MAGA base, man, I got to tell you, like, my timeline is just filled with that sentiment. That's why JD Went so viral two weeks ago at Ole Miss, for making that argument. And he made it in a way that I think really, like, resonates. He wants a harmonious, safe, and cold, culturally consistent America where you actually know your neighbors and that you can have a high trust society. I think that's whatever. That's a. That's a moral good that we should want in our nation. And it doesn't happen when you dump 30 million criminal aliens directly into the heart of the country. It doesn't. It's impossible, actually.
D
Look, I think we can actually get a lot of this stuff done. The question is, are Senate Democrats willing to work on behalf of the American people, or is there a strategy about getting Donald Trump? And that's where we are right now in America. Look, I hate to break it to people. Look, I was flying. I flew out of Miami last night.
C
Night.
D
To get back to D.C. to. To get here to reopen the government. And I was talking to a couple of the TSA guys and they go, you know, they were, Joe, we were joking about, man, do we got to check your bag in order to get an autograph? And I was like, we could do that, but I got to get this flight so you guys can get paid. And they laughed. They're like, no, no, go on to the flight. But think about this. We had TSA agents. And I know not everybody likes tsa. You know, they can be a pain in the butt. I don't want to take my shoes off. Stop checking my belt. It's my belt. You know, like, I mean, they're trying to do their job. Let's remember, remember when TSA came into existence and I got my issue. Everybody's got them, but they're Americans. They're working hard. And then when you have Democrats want to use a government shutdown to prove that they're a bunch of tough guys and they can stand up to Trump, who. Who actually gets hurt in that military? People. Men and women. The contractors around our military. They're not getting paid. They're not getting their stuff done. We're coming up on Thanksgiving, and the Democrats are having a fight about the future of Chuck Schumer. Nobody cares about Chuck Schumer and his leadership. People are about putting food on the table, a roof over their head, and making sure Their kids have an ability to chase the American dream. That's what it's always been about. And that's what we got to be focused on going forward.
A
All right, everyone, Everyone should love those answers from Byron Donald. Byron Donalds the next governor of the state of Florida, also someone who will be appearing with me and the Turning Point Generation at the University of Florida tomorrow night. You can sign up right here. The link is in the description. We'll see you there. Thank you.
D
See you, Benny.
A
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B
Stroke was that technical difficulty. Byron Donalds.
A
And then Byron had to go based on H1B visas, something that I'm sure the people of Texas. I mean, I know that you're running for high office in the state of Texas. Since we're talking about it, I mean, I'd love to talk J6 pipe bomber. That's the theme of the show. But why not pivot there? Because I think that this is something that is utterly critical. It's something that hit me this morning like a ton of bricks when I saw this tweet from Charlie talking about the inability for Americans to buy homes. This is a generational betrayal. The dream of home ownership and a functional society has collapsed in one generation since the greatest generation in World War II. And it's something that we got to fix. Charlie's solution, obviously, is mass deportations and ending H1B scams, among other things. What's your take on this, Congressman?
B
Well, first of all, I did listen to virtually all of Byron's interview, and there's a reason that I've endorsed him for governor. We agree where we are great friends, we work together in the House Freedom Caucus. We are aligned philosophically on a lot of these issues. So I agree with much of what he said. But what I would just add is, as you know, in Texas, we've been dealing with the brunt of the illegal immigration influence, but now we're seeing, I think, the ramifications of the H1B system and how it has been abused in addition to chain migration and diversity visas, which we've been trying to fix for a long time and we've been unable to do so. You'll remember back in 2018 with the various bills that were being debated in President Trump's first term, and we were unable to get that resolved as Republicans. And it left it both broken with respect to the illegal immigration system. We didn't get the wall fully built. We didn't get fixes to all of the asylum problems and the abuse of parole and the catch and release. But we also didn't address ending the chain migration, diversity visas. We had language to do it. We just couldn't get the votes. So now what are we dealing with in Texas? We're dealing with a massive Islamism problem. We're dealing with a massive problem of the advancement of Sharia law. We're dealing with a mass community that is growing up that have no desire to assimilate and come here to become American and embrace Western civilization, embrace our Constitution, embrace our values. We've allowed the corporatists to define our entire national policy. And if I were going to go talk about what Charlie's tweet there was about that summary, which is exceptionally on point and as he always was when he was starting from faith, family, the foundational principles, and that Encapsulates it very well. You should be able to own a home, you should be able to have Americans getting jobs. And the mass deportation is correct, the ending H1B visas is correct, et cetera. But what I would point out here is that we're dealing with a cultural problem about who we are as Americans. Going back a couple of years ago, I was noting 51 million people in this country are foreign born. Betting that's something like 16 or 17% of the population. Now that is higher than it's ever been. That is higher than it was in the early 20th century. Right when we had the massive wave coming in. We've got a mass foreign born population. But here's the kicker. It is on the back of, as Byron noted, a failed education system. Not just failing us in terms of skill sets, which is germane to the H1B question, but failing us in terms of teaching Western civilization, in terms of teaching God, in terms of teaching our values and belief in the declaration, teaching English, etc. Now we're English is a second language. We teach other languages. We don't really teach the Constitution, we don't teach Western civilization. America is evil. Apologize for our existence. We don't really get to then even reading, writing, arithmetic, right? And now we've got the problem where we've imported masses of people and the people we're importing are often the ones that are churning babies. Our core, you know, Americans who inherited this country aren't having babies. And now we have a demographics problem and we have a cultural problem. And in Texas that has resulted in Epic City, a big Islamic center in Houston, 300 mosques across the state and growing more mosque every day going, getting put in in Texas than any other state in the union. And if we lose Texas, we lose the country. So that was a lot I just dumped on you. But I wanted to go into that different lane beyond just the H1B tech, you know, business bro problem. Because that has led to a massive cultural problem. That is something we've got to address. So the answer is yes. And the H1B system, which is broken. I've got a bill that I'm going to be introducing this week or next. We've had to wait because of the shutdown nonsense. That is a freeze on all immigration. Freeze it until we achieve certain objectives. Reforming things like chain migration and diversity and H1B, you know, ending H1B getting birthright citizenship dealt with ending, for example Plyler veto which says that you have to educate illegal alien children. Go down the list of things. For example, my bill that says you got to vet people for their adherence to Sharia law. Why are we importing any human being that is adherent to Sharia law, which is totally contrary to the Constitution and our values in Western civilization? So my point is we can amend that bill and people have ideas. But I'm going to introduce a bill as a framework to say, why don't we just freeze immigration entirely until we sort this crap out, until we figure out who's here, why they're here. How many Chinese Communists, how many people who are Islamists who want to remake America? How many people that are living on the public dole, that are living on welfare, that are going into the emergency room to get care, that are in our education system, getting taxpayer funded education because the Supreme Court declared it. So let's pause all that. And that'll actually be the name of the bill, the pause Act.
A
Well, you can't run a country like this. I mean, eventually everything will just become Minneapolis, right? When Minneapolis is just no longer Minneapolis, there are major parts of the city that are no go zones. You can't speak English. There are people who are running for the mayor of Minneapolis waving another country's flag, and there are representatives in Congress. You serve with one from Minneapolis that is saying that everything they do, they do for Somalia. Well, that's insane, actually. Like what other country? What, what? It's a practice in debasement and self humiliation. What country would ever practice that? And what an insult to your people, actually, to heritage Americans, to people who were born here, whose grandparents built this country, fought and died in our war veterans days was yesterday. A lot of veterans in Texas. What an insult to them. And we're seeing this worrying trend, Congressman, since you just talked about the Islamization of Texas, where World War II veterans are coming out and crying on camera and just saying, this ain't the country that I fought for.
B
Well, the one you're referencing, by the way, you said, what other country would do this? Well, I'll tell you one, the United Kingdom. What other country would do this? France. Right. And you just quoted, I think I saw a video where, and it was a uk, you know, veteran who had said, what did I fight for? Why did we bleed and die to save this country, England, the United Kingdom from Nazi Germany, when we're now just turning it over to people that want to destroy it? And you know, there are places, for example, in Scotland, there are I think, 85 jurisdictions where you can choose Sharia law or Scottish law. That's that's not Western civilization. That's not how we do things. And by the way, this is purposeful. Okay? What's happening in New York with Mom, Donnie, it's not just Minneapolis. And by the way, my colleagues are always like, well, you guys should just boot out Elon Omar, you know, for a variety of reasons. Great, fine. But guess what? Those 750 or 800,000 Minnesotans that elect her, they're going to elect somebody else just as crazy, because we've allowed this culture, you know, cultural rot to foment in Minneapolis, Dearborn, Michigan now in the form of the Mayor of New York. We've got it now in Dallas, Houston, in fact, you've got the Muslim Brotherhood and people overseas who, if you ask them in London or Paris, hey, where do we want to go in America or in Western Hemisphere? They'll say Dallas. And Dallas has been the epicenter dating back 25 years. You might remember the Holy Land foundation case where this charity, the Holy Land foundation, was tied directly to terrorism. Thankfully, the DOJ at the time, you know, went after them. But there's still co conspirators in the Holy Land foundation case that are a part of care, for example, which is why I introduced legislation to take away their C3 status. All of this is related. We finally have people up here that are taking all of this on, willing to talk about it. And frankly, that's a great tribute to President Trump who's always willing to get out there and lead on these issues. But we're trying to get out there and point out that we're going to lose our country if we don't address this stuff.
A
What would be your take as the Attorney General of the state of Texas? Obviously you would be the top law enforcement official of America's fastest growing state. Actually, I'm not sure if that it's, if it's Texas or Florida, but nonetheless, obviously a landmark state of state that the entire stock, New York Stock Exchange. So like, let me just set the table here. What's happening is that New York is disintegrating based on their own tech, based on their own decisions. They're atomizing and that that energy is moving in large part to Dallas. Obviously, you see this Austin, same thing with Silicon Valley. There's considerable amount of inflow from Wall street down to the Miami and Eastern seaboard of Florida. And so how do you protect Texas from what happened in New York? Because I think if you went back a generation, the people in New York wouldn't recognize New York today. Obviously they'd be horrified.
B
Yeah, you remember these old pictures where you see New York at night with the crosses in the buildings, the Empire State Building and the Chrysler Building. Right. And that was the history of New York. That's what I remember. I remember going to New York for Christmas. I remember the old, you know, Irish Catholic, Italian, Irish feuds that were kind of friendly feuds. All of this stuff you think about the old Yank New York, New York Yankees, like, baseball team and like, that's the New York that I remember. Not at a radical Islamist Marxist. And by the way, that's the connection, which, you know, probably for a different, you know, podcast, but the Islamist Marxist connection, the Red Green alliance, that's a real problem. And that's actually what we're seeing unfold in Texas. As Attorney General, first of all, I would continue to use and leverage my relationships in Washington and the administration and the Congress to get legal changes here that we need to do on the immigration side to continue to answer this question. I'm going to fight it hard for the next year in Congress, but we need to continue that fight. So I would continue that work and work with my fellow attorneys general to coordinate that effort. Whether it's James Meyer down in Florida or whether it's Raul Labrador in Idaho or friends of mine, we would work together to do that. But secondly, in Texas, I would build on the great work that Attorney General Paxton has done in targeting Epic City. But it's not just Epic City. Right? We've got to be aggressive, whether it's deceptive Trade Practices act, whether it's securities violations, but importantly, probably most importantly, being willing to stand up and call it out and say that you're not going to be able to hide behind the First Amendment and hide behind development and renaming something. Epic City is going to rename it to the Meadow Community or whatever they're doing, call it out, make sure the people know that, put pressure on the local officials. And I'm going to say something a little controversial among Republicans. You got to take on the developers and you got to take on the corporatists who are trying to run our communities from corporate boardrooms. Going back to Charlie's point, our nation is great when it starts with God, when it starts with family, community, real relationships. Remember Charlie talking about that? What do you think is most important? You want your kids to walk in safe communities? You want to have real relationships with your neighbors? You want to have more people know Christ? Like, we've got to remember who we are as a people. We are not a Nation of corporations. We are not a nation that is supposed to be governed by international groups and organizations, federal bureaucrats or corporations. We are a people. And we are a people in Texas who needs to reclaim that spirit of being Texan. The, you know, great, great grandfather of mine who was a Texas Ranger, who was battling Comanches in Hays, Travis, and Blanco county, southwest of Austin. Like, those were the days that you had to. You didn't go look around what to do. You had to just go do. And that's who we were. And it came from a deep sense of faith. And, yes, we were a melting pot. We had the German community and the Czech community, and you had the Mexican. Mexican community. And all of that blending came together to form the greatest state and the greatest country in the history of the world. But it was also about assimilation into the American idea. Now you've got people coming here who want to remake America, destroy America as we know it. And we have to recognize that war exists if you want to win it.
A
Yes. This is why I'm totally in favor of just capping all immigration for probably a generation. Yeah. Because of the damage. Because of the damage that's been done, and because we need to actually get. We need to get a beat. And I'm so glad that you have this bill. Like, if you had had your team send it to me so that I can, like, support it and come out and start hammering for it. The damage that's been done is incalculable and unquantifiable, and we're seeing sort of the fruits of it, and it's just horrifying. And I don't think we've. They've even begun.
B
Right.
A
To actually show us what the final form of all this is. But the. The easiest way to stop it or at the very least to slow it down would be. Right. Mass deportations. And then to just cut off, to just say, no, like, no more. Like, it's full. We're done.
B
Right. Like, and there's. There's one other component to it. Right. And it gets to a little bit of the fight we've been having on the shutdown, going back to the big, beautiful bill, the health care debate. We also have to massively restrict and end the welfare state.
A
Yes. Thank you.
B
Because what you're doing is you're paying a whole bunch of people.
A
Yes.
B
Not to be pushed back into the labor force, not to be able to get back and go to work, which, by the way, is the dignity of living. Right. Like, you wake up every day fulfilled when you go and you have purpose. And when you've got a welfare state that is growing and building at the same time, you have mass immigration, you're killing the soul of the average American, particularly young males. And you're then importing people because corporations say we need labor. Hold on. Fix our immigration system. Get people back to trades and then real knowledge. Give them energy, get them off the welfare state, get them back in the labor force and do it quickly, like we can do that. And one of the things we did in the big beautiful bill, which people are saying, oh, it's controversial, you're making some reforms to Medicaid and snap, all of those programs still grow. All we did was insert work requirements, make serious reforms that would save money over time so we could both minimize debt, get people back to work, make those programs more effective, eliminate fraud and abuse. Those were all good things that we did. In addition to the tax policy. It takes time for those things to get back involved in the system. And now we need to be on offense on health care. And look, I think we should be yesterday in the rules committee at about 2 in the morning, we were arguing with the Democrats and I look, I didn't back down when they were trying to like hammer us and say, well, you're going to these subsidies. Hold on a second. You all broke the system. You all completely destroyed the healthcare system, such that now 85% of the revenues for the insurance companies in America come from the federal government. And $35 billion last year alone was went for plans that weren't even used by Americans. I could keep going down statistics, but we've destroyed the whole system. We've made it impossible for you, your family, my family, the people that I represent to go to the doctor of his or her choice. Let's turn that on its head. We're the party of patients and doctors. Democrats are the party of federal bureaucrats and insurance companies. You tell me which are more popular. I'm for the patients and doctors there, for the insurance bureaucrats and enriching them. We can win that argument if we'll go have it expansive health savings accounts, more direct primary care, health sharing ministries, Medicare, the ability to go wherever you want to be able to get care and carry it with you because you make it tax advantaged for individuals and businesses to put it into your health savings account. We could do that tomorrow. And we should, by the way, end the filibuster. And, and by the way, I called on that back in October, on October, I think 20th, I said that we should do that. Why? And I say that was some trepidation because if you open up the filibuster and you drop it to 51, Senate Democrats are going to want to come in and they're going to want to pack the court. They're going to want to make DC Estate. There's a danger there, but I think they're going to want to do that anyway. The only reason they didn't before was Kyrsten Sinema and Joe Manchin. So I think we should go on offense. Let's go reform the judiciary. Let's pack the court. Let's end the nationwide injunction abuses. Let's go forward and have health care freedom. Show the American people what actual conservatism looks like. Expand the health savings accounts, give them options. Let's do that tomorrow with an agenda that will excite the American people. We're going to freeze H1BS. We're going to empower you. We're going to help you get and build and buy homes. We, we're going to help you be able to afford health care. I think we can do all those things on offense if we're willing to do it.
A
Man. I just, you know, I, I'm taking aback. Did you just say, like, Republicans should pack the court? So you're saying like, like we should just go pack the court? Like, I just, you know, with that pendulum, like, how quickly does that thing swing? How hard does it swing until it breaks? Right.
B
Well, I think. And we would get emergency to get some. Let's at least go have the debate. So here's my view. Do you think right now that if Democrats get the trifecta again, do you think they will pack the court and that they will try to make D.C. a state?
A
I mean, yes, I think so.
B
So, so we're banking on. We're rolling.
A
Yeah, it's like.
B
Yeah, I mean, look, that's what happened last time. Right. And only Kirsten Cinema and Joe Manchin stood in the way.
A
I see the theory. I understand the theory, Congressman, and it's just the, the practice. I wonder about what, what are they? What are the long lasting?
B
My whole life, I was a Senate lawyer. I was a Senate chief of staff. I spent seven years there. I was an enormous advocate of holding the line on 60 because I don't like Washington being able to do things easily. But here's the problem. For 50 years, I'm 53 years old, I've been watching this entire country getting decimated while we sit around in theory talking about, well, man, the 60, it sure helps us stop some really bad things. But we still got Obamacare shoved down our throat through reconciliation. They still moved the ball with their inflation reduction act to jam through green new scam subsidies. We thankfully pulled some of those back through reconciliation. First time Republicans have ever done anything that bold in my lifetime. But now we gotta decide what, what are we going to do to go inspire a new generation of Americans? If we don't do it with the filibuster, if we don't do something like that, then we better damn well go use another reconciliation bill and take it for a spin to go make sure we've got policies for homeownership, for health care and make sure that we lead to make this country affordable for the next generation of Americans so they can have babies, so they can populate this country with God fearing, American loving people. So one way or the other, we need to get on offense. I will choose either of those routes and I've given plans and recommendations to my friends in the White House on both of them. But I don't want to sit back and wait because if we wait, we'll lose next November.
D
Correct.
B
And then President Trump is facing impeachment and all sorts of nonsense. The President's instincts are often right. And you know, I haven't always agreed with the President on every single issue, somewhat infamously at times, but the President's instincts are often right. When the President is saying, wait a minute, we shouldn't subsidize insurance companies, let's give those subsidies to the American people, I go, well, I don't like subsidies. But that political message is correct. If the dollars are going to go, at least make sure I've got it in a savings account and I can go shop. His instincts are right when he said, wait, why are we hanging ourselves with the filibuster? So how about this, Benny, how about we just have a test vote. We will amend the Constitution to declare that the vote threshold is 60 so that we all have to abide by the same rule. And if Democrats all vote for that and send it to the states, maybe we will stand down and then go try to do some policies on reconciliation. But if Democrats won't do that, then let's just go ahead and move forward. But we should call the question instead of unilaterally disarming, then it shows the actual game.
A
You can see, you can see the lawyer coming out here. You can see the, the, the former Ted Cruz, architect of many fun tricks in the Senate that you guys pulled from long time. And I'd love to see more of that strategy, quite frankly, deployed. The American public and the MAGA base Congressman, feels like Republicans in Congress have not really delivered, and so it'd be nice to actually see that. I couldn't agree with you more. I'm no parliamentarian, and so I defer to you and you should defer to Chip Roy. Here's his X account. He has 500,000 subscribers on X. He's running for higher office in Texas. Texas. He's been a great congressman and, and a proud father and a farmer there. Are you a farmer, Chip? Is this like a. Is this your farm?
B
Well, we have, we have 10 acres and I grew up on a farm and with cattle and stuff. And that's an old 1940, I think 41 9n tractor in old Ford, which my. I grew up with my dad. That's tractor that we had. And so I, I just use it to bush hog stuff. But, uh, but it's good and, and, uh, you know, look, hey, let me just say one thing on the way out, please. I'm actually proud of a lot of the stuff we've done. We passed the Lake and Riley act, which will allow states to sue a future, you know, Biden administration to secure the border. The big, beautiful bill was a great win. It's difficult with the thin majority. I think we need to do more. I think we need to be here. But we should actually trumpet the wins that we've done because they're really important in backing the President, getting rescissions, bills passed, which we've never done before. So let's, let's at least be positive about what we've been able to do. I, I agree. We need to do a lot more.
A
I'm. I just want to win. Right? And I'm not trying to be a doomer, but I talk to all these college kids. They need some vision casting, you know, and they need people to, to go to Gen Alpha, Gen Z and millennials and say, you know what? We have this. This is not a gerontocracy. We're not building a culture of the old. And we are not just going to give lavish royalties to people who've voted for them and regulated them for themselves their entire lives.
D
Lives.
A
And then left. You pulled the ladder up behind them, closed the door and left you for dead. And that's what young people feel like, Congressman.
B
Well, and you know what? And I understand it, and they're not.
A
And so that's, that's what I'm advocating for. You're exactly, you know, you're. And you're right. There have been accomplishments, and I'm not a doomer. I just want to keep pushing right, and keep fighting.
B
We're on the. We're on the same page. And, you know, we've got a lot we've got to do, but I. Look, I appreciate you, brother. And. And look, this is why I'm running for Attorney General. Texas, if you don't. If you lose Texas, you lose America. We need safe streets. We need to secure the border. We need to stop the march of Islam. We've got to stop the corporations for taking over a state. I'm tired of whataburger being bought up by private equity. Let's go. Let's go reclaim Texas for Texans.
A
That's a winning issue right there. Next time. Next time. Congressman. Godspeed. Congressman Chip Roy. All right, ladies and gentlemen, the federal government is once again messing with your savings. In our economy, they cut rates again. What will they do next? Probably more rate cuts. Last time it wasn't as much as the President wanted. The President has been very angry about the way that the Fed is operating. However, there is something that you can do in order to hedge against the Fed printing more free money for the American people that, of course, costs you dearly. You could invest in precious metals. The new Gold IRA guide from Advantage Gold is out for 2025, and it can show you step by step how to protect your retirement by moving your IRA, 401k or TSP into physical gold and silver, real assets that you can hold in your hand. Text Benny to 85545 right now and get a Gold IRA guide. Plus, Advantage Gold is offering up to $10,000 in free silver with a qualifying purchase. This is your chance to safeguard your savings and to protect your family and help secure your future. Don't let the Fed gamble with your savings. Text Benny to 85545 today. That's Benny to 85545 today. All right, ladies and gentlemen, very interesting suite of news. I guess we've covered generally with Stephen Sund, everything that we wanted to talk about with the dnc, the pipe bomber, the rnc. What's going on there? I don't know, man. I just don't know. I'm not sure. I want to say that everybody has been forthright and forthcoming with us, but I've gotten nothing. I'm not here to crash out on cash or Dan. I've never been lied to by those guys. And those guys, they're good at what they do. I don't think that they came this far in order to fumble the pipe bomber. But I do believe firmly that they need to come out and say something. I do believe firmly that they have to get out in front of this conversation and to give the American people as much as is possible about this. Or as Stephen sun said, just salt the earth, light it all on fire and start over.
B
Right?
A
Start over. Steven sun, right here. Three days and no statement from the FBI and doj. You know, sometimes you just gotta, like, sometimes you gotta get out with it. Right? And so that's what we're pushing for on this program and certainly is something that we'll continue to do. Jasmine Crockett faces probe over conflicting financial disclosure.
D
Oh, boy.
A
Jasmine Crockett, man, I'm telling you, she is. I'm telling you, she's gonna run for president. We've been telling you. You look over at our show and what we've done. We did a number on Jasmine Crockett. The first time that she didn't yap Jasmine Crockett mouth shut was when we did a full expose on where she comes from, how privileged she is. The reason why we spent the time and money to go do that very stressful breakneck trip was in order to expose someone who we saw is going to be pushed as a presidential candidate. Jasmine Crockett will run for president. Man. Telling you. Here's the news this morning. Watchdog group alleges that Jasmine Crockett, Democrat from Texas, filed inconsistent financial disclosures, statements regarding investments in which she violated House rules, federal law, unreported assets exceeding $1,000 in value. The foundation for Accountability and Civic Trust filed the complaint. The Office of Congressional Conduct. Sadly, these kind of things tend to go nowhere. They had AOC dead to rights on a bunch of this stuff. And what is she? What happened? Nothing. Literally nothing. Congress never holds themselves accountable. A lot of members of Congress are trading and holding assets that could be considered a conflict of interest. The executive director said to the Daily Signal. When we see members of Congress not. Not taking financial disclosure seriously, we see an ethics problem. Crockett is a former member of the Texas House of Representatives. She also filed financial statements. When a candidate to run for office, the financial statements do not match. And so I guess that's what they're pushing for. What will happen next? I'm not exactly sure.
C
I.
A
I'll just tell you. We'll stay on the story. They will run Jasmine Crockett and aoc. I mean, Trump's saying it. It's true. They'll run Jasmine Crockett and AOC expect them both to announce for president in 2028. 2027 is when they'd be announcing, but expect that it will happen. President Trump calls into ESPN Stars show. Pat McAfee has a very popular streaming show. Right. Does he have technical difficulties like we did today? Who knows? Probably for sure. But he's authentic commentator and somebody who has like a real audience for sure. And President Trump called in during the program because it was Veterans Day yesterday. Here we go. And that's one big ooh, new Marines. Mr. President, just urad the hell out of you there for what you just said about that.
C
Good.
A
Well, we love them. They are a Special group indeed. Mr. President, have you ever done an URA to a bunch of Marines? Not the kind that I just heard. I just heard a level of professionalism with, with the way they did it that I don't think anybody can match.
B
It, to be honest.
A
That's very impressive, Mr. President, why don't you drop one. Mr. President, why don't you drop an Uraru real quick?
D
I will.
A
Ura.
B
Yes.
A
Okay. We love everything about that. Let's, let's pivot away from obviously, all the great work that the VA and you all are trying to do for our vets in our military. You love to see it. You love to see it. Now the libs. I, I can't believe that this has to h. You know, it's like wild that this has to happen. Everyone can have Obama on every show.
C
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Episode Title: January 6th Pipebomb Whistleblower EXPOSES Deep FBI Coverup!? Kamala Secret Service Was In On It?!
Host: Benny Johnson
Guests: Chief Steven Sund (former Capitol Police Chief), Rep. Byron Donalds (R-FL), Rep. Chip Roy (R-TX)
Date: November 13, 2025
This episode investigates explosive new whistleblower revelations about a possible FBI coverup related to the unsolved January 6th pipe bombs. Benny Johnson brings in former U.S. Capitol Police Chief Steven Sund, alongside Reps. Byron Donalds and Chip Roy, to dissect evidence, debate theories, and examine a new push in Congress to bring accountability—particularly in light of allegations involving Capitol Police, unresponsive FBI leadership, and bizarre behavior from Kamala Harris’s Secret Service detail. The conversation also broadens into American decline, loss of the “American Dream,” and urgent reforms in immigration, housing, and education.
“There was a sense of euphoria one year ago when President Trump won... If you wouldn’t mind, show them the map. That’s why I keep the map in the studio...”
— Benny Johnson (04:15)
“The wholesale destruction of the American dream... If you can't own a home, you can't start a family... This is the end of the American dream.”
— Benny Johnson (12:07)
“When you think about it, the first pipe bomb is identified at 12:42pm – that’s 11 minutes before the riot gets out of control on the west front at 12:53. That couldn’t have been worse timing.”
— Chief Steven Sund (27:21)
“If it is [an officer accused], and she's innocent, they deserve to be cleared as quickly as possible. I’d like to see some statement come out.”
— Chief Steven Sund (30:10)
“If you want to do a full investigation, why are you going to make the Speaker of the House off limits?”
— Chief Steven Sund (33:11)
“Let me tell you... you go to pucker factory. You're out there, you're trying to find out what's going on.”
— Sund on normal protocol, contrasting Secret Service’s inaction (35:29)
“Our young people are not graduating high school being economically viable. This is one of the reasons why I support school choice so vehemently.”
— Rep. Byron Donalds (47:40)
“The H1B system is a complete scam... it has not been to the priority of the American people.”
— Rep. Byron Donalds (54:06)
“Our core Americans who inherited this country aren’t having babies... And now we have a demographics problem and a cultural problem.”
— Chip Roy (71:40)
“I’m going to introduce a bill as a framework to say, why don’t we just freeze immigration entirely until we sort this crap out?”
— Chip Roy (74:30)
On home ownership’s collapse and its consequences:
“You can’t have a future of your country unless you are having babies. And that is why we are going to be obsessed with the issue of housing.”
— Benny Johnson (67:21)
On Republican base frustrations:
“The American public and the MAGA base feel like Republicans in Congress have not really delivered...”
— Benny Johnson (90:34)
Closing encouragement:
“Trust in God and be at perfect peace. I know that it is a time of great spiritual awakening... in the end, the victory is ours. March until we win.”
— Benny Johnson (103:03)
Sund on distraction operation:
“I absolutely think it’s an operation...they were placed specifically, I think, for them to be identified and located ahead of time, to be a distraction to divert my resources away from the capital at the most strategic time...” (21:14)
Sund on Pelosi:
“Denied, denied, denied... I can tell you for a fact the Pentagon called my office offering National Guard support. And by law, I had to turn it down because I hadn’t been given authorization.” (31:40)
Donald Trump (call-in on Pat McAfee show):
“Ura.” (99:04)
This episode blends in-depth discussion of the January 6th pipe bomb case—with fresh whistleblower information and calls for transparency from law enforcement and government officials—with broader reflection and the urgent policy agenda of the pro-Trump right. Guests echo Benny’s concerns over the FBI, cultural change, educational and economic decline, and endorse sweeping reforms: closing loopholes in immigration, slashing legal immigration, ending H1B “scams,” boosting home ownership, fixing education, and, if necessary, breaking congressional procedural roadblocks.
Above all, the show is a rallying cry for transparency, accountability, and energetic, culture-changing policymaking—targeted at a base frustrated with both the status quo and establishment Republican caution.