The Benny Show
Episode: The Darkest Cover Up in FBI History: Explosive January 6th Pipe Bomber Evidence Revealed, They LIED…
Date: December 5, 2025
Host: Benny Johnson
Guests: Viva Frei, Senator Markwayne Mullin
Overview
This episode dives deep into newly released evidence and explosive allegations concerning the January 6th pipe bomber, focusing on the recent identification and arrest of Brian Cole Jr. Host Benny Johnson, joined by legal commentator Viva Frei and Senator Markwayne Mullin, explores what he calls a catastrophic FBI cover-up, possible FED involvement, and the implications of the investigation for the broader narrative around January 6. The episode debates the profile and motivations of the alleged bomber, critiques law enforcement failures, and connects the case to patterns seen in other high-profile “lone wolf” incidents.
Key Discussion Points & Insights
A Narrative Shattered (00:02–11:00)
- Setting the Scene: Live from Washington D.C., Benny frames the episode as an effort to expose “one of the single darkest chapters in American history.”
- Media Bias & Narrative: Benny discusses the disconnect between initial FBI/media narratives (pipe bomber as a “white supremacist MAGA terrorist”) and the reality of the suspect, a young Black man, Brian Cole Jr.
- [09:05, Benny]: “Is the pipe bomber. This is your white supremacist. Old grizzled war veteran... Nope. A young black guy. There you go, narrative destroyed.”
- [10:15, Senator Mullin/Jake Tapper clip]: Replays how mainstream media wrongly identifies the bomber’s race and motivations.
Evidence Against Brian Cole Jr. (05:41–21:00)
- Key Evidence:
- Purchase receipts for bomb parts (pipes, kitchen timers, wires).
- Cell phone tower pings near RNC and DNC during critical timeframes.
- License plate scans placing him at the scene (20:11–20:36).
- Affidavit details exhaustive timeline and materials used.
- [08:33, Benny]: “This is the physical evidence we’ve been looking for.”
- Viability of Bombs: Doubts persist about whether the devices were actually operational (“art project” or real).
- [20:36, Benny]: “I say that because I don’t know if these were operable bombs...”
- Motivations & Background:
- Family ties to left-wing activism and litigious actions against Trump-era policies (11:24–15:39).
- History as bail bondsmen for criminal aliens, alleged unethical practices, and family criminal background (12:13–17:50).
- [13:47, Benny]: “This is not the behavior of a MAGA individual. This is the behavior of a left wing activist.”
Law Enforcement Failures & Allegations of Cover-Up (18:16–39:06)
- Disparity in Enforcement:
- Benny and guests highlight the FBI’s rapid identification of minor J6 offenders (using similar technology) versus the lack of action against Cole.
- [37:09, Benny]: “Meemaw McGurk from Montana. Took her cell phone ping and locked her up… Yet they had all of that evidence and all that data on Brian Cole and nothing. Nothing.”
- Suggestion that the evidence was deliberately ignored or suppressed to protect the narrative.
- Benny and guests highlight the FBI’s rapid identification of minor J6 offenders (using similar technology) versus the lack of action against Cole.
- Pattern Recognition: Benny lays out similarities across other “loner” incidents—from Matthew Thomas Crooks (Trump shooter), Tyler Robinson, to the Whitmer Fednapping—characterized by “terminal online loners” manipulated by outside actors (28:25–31:58).
- Implies a pattern of FBI entrapment and manipulation, especially of socially isolated young men.
Working Theory: FBI Involvement? (31:21–39:06)
- Fed Involvement Hinted: Benny openly speculates, with support from guests, that Cole may have been a confidential human source or manipulated by federal agencies.
- [33:08, Benny]: “My hunch is that this is not gone wrong. The reason why you never heard anything from the J6 committee about the pipe bomber... this was a confidential human source potentially for the FBI or some type of fed agency.”
- Compares to Lee Harvey Oswald, referring to CIA’s historic manipulation of “unstable loners.”
- Dan Bongino/Cash Patel Commentary: Both guests assert that previous FBI leadership buried the case for political reasons—current leadership reopened and acted (39:06–45:53).
- [44:32, Dan Bongino]: “The prior administration sat on the evidence for four years... That is either sheer incompetence or complete intentional negligence, and neither of which is acceptable for this FBI.”
Senator Markwayne Mullin Weighs In (46:13–56:58)
- Oversight & FBI Reform: Senator Mullin credits field agents while blaming “corrupt” upper management (the “seventh floor” of Hoover).
- [47:06, Senator Mullin]: “...either this was just incompetence or cover up, one of the two... I'll lean and give everybody the benefit of the doubt. That was incompetence because it wasn't made a priority.”
- Recruitment of Vulnerable Individuals: Discusses the vulnerability of “terminally online” young men to manipulation by intelligence agencies or other bad actors.
- [49:31, Mullin]: “They can be manipulated because they want to be somebody. They're looking for identity... you become a source for us.”
- Deep State Concept Clarified: Senator Mullin reflects on his evolving view of the “deep state” as entrenched, unelected bureaucrats rather than elected officials.
- [52:34, Mullin]: “Now that I'm so involved... it's never been elected officials, it's bureaucrats.”
- Transparency & Next Steps: Affirms ongoing investigation and promises more information to come.
- [55:17, Mullin]: “We are being very methodical on how we roll that out... we’d love to have something out on that early spring if we’re ready to go. But it’s a very big case that's... been covered up by the previous administration.”
Broader Themes: Election Integrity & Foreign Interference (56:58–65:40)
- Venezuela/Smartmatic Connection: Discussion of a leaked letter from Venezuela’s ex-spy chief alleging foreign manipulation of U.S. elections.
- Both Senator Mullin and Benny Johnson stress the importance of securing election systems.
- [58:16, Senator Mullin]: “Venezuela has been the hub of this and there’s no doubt that they're not working alone... they're also involved in this [with] China and Russia.”
- [62:26, Mullin]: “Anytime the data can leave a machine, it can also be penetrated from outside.”
Doubts, Demands for Evidence & Skepticism (69:16–94:17)
Viva Frei’s Take:
- Skepticism Remains: Despite new evidence, points out issues with physical identification, timeline discrepancies in bomb part purchases, and analytical limits of current evidence.
- [69:16, Viva]: “We were all operating on the basis that this was something of an inside job... to now be told... it’s a random anarchist, at least from the information that we have right now... the timing is that which will cause a little bit of suspicion.”
- Systemic Questions: Why would the Biden DOJ not use Cole as a patsy to further their “extremist right” narrative, unless there’s deeper Fed involvement?
- [74:10, Viva]: “To the extent this kid didn’t have a social media footprint, he would be easier to manipulate into that character... What would’ve been the intention behind the DOJ to brush it under the rug and not investigate unless this man was handled... by agents?”
- Repeats Pattern Noted with Whitmer Fednapping: Explains the “playbook” of entrapping/handling vulnerable individuals for broader political purposes (77:23–78:13).
- Affidavit Weakness: Viva challenges the lack of evidence on black powder sourcing, the nature of bomb operability, and matching of purchases to bombs (78:13–78:59).
- Missing Video: Questions why, in the world’s most surveilled city, the American public hasn’t seen clear footage of the bomber’s face, or dispositive evidence tying Cole to the placement location.
- [87:13, Viva]: “Do I believe they don’t know? Do I believe they could easily identify this individual if he’s black? ... It’s the easiest thing to determine...”
Notable Quotes & Moments
- Benny Johnson [31:58]:
- “My contention is that there’s something bigger at play here... Perhaps this has not gone wrong. This could have been a confidential human source for the FBI.”
- Senator Markwayne Mullin [49:31]:
- “They can be manipulated because they want to be somebody. They're looking for identity… and so that's why these individuals are recruited not just by the IC community, but they're also by our adversaries.”
- Viva Frei [74:10]:
- “Why wouldn’t they want to use this as an excuse to further prosecutions… unless this man was tied to, handled by, or radicalized by agents as a backup plan to ensure the requisite chaos on January 6th?”
- Dan Bongino [44:32]:
- “The prior administration sat on the evidence for four years. There wasn’t any production of new evidence from five years ago. Here’s what we did. We went out to the country, brought in our experts, and... led the charge...”
- Viva Frei’s closing [89:14]:
- “If we were to see... actual, visual confirmation of the individual so that it’s relatively clear... If we have an overlap of a timeline with the path... that would be... sufficiently convincing to me. But if we’re led to believe... this was actually just a lone wolf… I’m going to have a great deal of difficulty believing that.”
What Happens Next? (94:17–End)
- Awaiting Avalanche of Evidence: The guests stress that more information is imminent; the current narrative is unsatisfying and incomplete.
- Public Demands for Proof: Listeners and analysts alike are warned to remain skeptical until substantial evidence is released. The stakes for the FBI and DOJ’s credibility are enormous.
- [92:38, Benny]: “This is how I’m approaching all of this... I’m willing to, like, bite, but I just don’t believe it’s the full picture. And they’re telling us it’s not the full picture, so it had better not be.”
- Faith & Patriotism: Benny closes the show with biblical encouragement and a call for American resilience.
Important Timestamps
- 00:02–05:41 – Episode introduction, news context, and initial take on the arrest
- 05:41–20:11 – Review of the affidavit and evidence against Brian Cole Jr.
- 21:07–39:06 – Parallels to other “lone wolf” incidents, speculation on Fed involvement
- 39:06–56:58 – Dan Bongino, Cash Patel, and Senator Mullin discuss failures, reforms, and investigative challenges
- 65:40–69:04 – Discussion of election security, Venezuela/Smartmatic letter
- 69:16–94:17 – Viva Frei’s detailed legal and investigative skepticism, demands for transparency
Episode Tone & Style
Benny Johnson’s style is fast-paced, confrontational, and deeply skeptical of establishment narratives. The tone is openly critical of “deep state” and law enforcement agencies, mixing commentary, pop culture references (e.g., “Steve Urkel bomber”), and flashes of humor. Guests alternate between legal rigor and political speculation. The episode is meant for audiences suspicious of mainstream news and hungry for independent investigation.
Final Thoughts
- Evidence is damning—if it holds: The case against Brian Cole Jr. is circumstantially strong, but is presented as only a snapshot of a much larger, deeper, and potentially more explosive story.
- Motive and manipulation remain disputed: All parties agree more investigation and transparency is needed—especially around possible government malfeasance.
- The fight for narrative control is ongoing: As Benny repeatedly insists, “show your work”—America is owed the truth, in full, however ugly.
Notable Quotes for Sharing
- Benny Johnson [33:08]: “That’s my assumption of what happened behind the scenes with Christopher Wray... The FBI didn’t fail to catch this guy. Leftists protected their own. It’s the biggest FBI cover-up scandal in history and it’s about to get worse.”
- Viva Frei [72:22]: “I’m still just can’t get past the physical... compared to this guy’s physique, the length of his legs... I’m open to new evidence, but the affidavit felt a little thin.”
- Senator Mullin [47:06]: “I will think it’s incompetence by the previous director Ray, who just didn’t let the FBI... do their job.”
For listeners seeking further material: Follow Benny Johnson, Viva Frei, and Senator Markwayne Mullin on their respective platforms for updates on the ongoing case and related investigations.
