Trump in EGYPT Right Now After Bringing PEACE To The Middle East | Hostages Released: War OVER, with Steve Hilton and Pastor Doug Wilson

Summary

Podcast Summary: "Trump in EGYPT Right Now After Bringing PEACE To The Middle East | Hostages Released: War OVER"

The Benny Show | Host: Benny Johnson
Guests: Steve Hilton, Pastor Doug Wilson | Date: October 13, 2025

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Episode Overview

This special episode captures a historic moment as former President Donald Trump lands in Egypt to lead a Middle East peace summit following the release of all remaining Israeli hostages by Hamas—heralding what the hosts and guests frame as a potential end to the long-standing regional conflict. Benny Johnson and co-host Alex provide live commentary on unfolding events, joined by guests Steve Hilton—a veteran foreign policy analyst and (as noted) would-be gubernatorial candidate—and Pastor Doug Wilson, who discusses the Christian framework of peace, government, and personal purpose. The episode blends political commentary, cultural criticism, live news, interviews, and discussions on faith.

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Main Themes

• President Trump’s Peace Diplomacy: Live coverage as Trump arrives in Egypt for peace talks.
• Hostages Released & War Over: Celebration of Hamas releasing all hostages—seen by the show as a major step toward peace.
• Critique of Media & Political Violence: Recap of threats, media bias, and the assassination of Charlie Kirk.
• Faith, Culture, and Society: Christian theological reflections on just government, purpose, and the revival of Western values.
• Behind the Scenes: Banter and insider discussion about news production, recruitment, and pop culture.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Live Coverage: Trump in Egypt, Peace Summit Events

• Trump’s golden Boeing 747 lands in Egypt amidst pomp and ceremony ([15:32]–[17:23]).
  • “Here’s President Trump rolling. They see me rolling. They hating, patrolling. Gonna catch me bringing peace to the Middle East.” – Alex [15:51]
• Egyptian and American F-16s escort Air Force One.
• Massive billboards: “Welcome to the land of peace.” [32:03]
• Trump is greeted by the Egyptian President at a globally-attended summit, with a large motorcade and world leaders.
  • Leaders in attendance include from Egypt, France, Israel, Qatar, Jordan, Turkey, Germany, the UK, Japan, and more. [116:24]

2. The End of Hostage Crises & Middle East Conflict

• Announcement: Hamas no longer holds any hostages for the first time in years ([01:23]).
  • “There have been 20 hostages now. Hamas holds zero hostages for the first time in years. It was a very, very good thing.” – Alex [01:23]
• Trump’s morning speech in the Israeli Knesset covered as historic, signaling a “new era.”
  • “[Trump] just oversaw the liberation of 20 Israeli hostages. Hamas no longer owns any.” – Alex [23:12]

3. Reflections on Endless Wars and American Involvement

• Benny and Alex reflect on growing up in an era of “new American, forever war” ([00:45]–[01:17]).
  • “Every single decade, every single year, there is a new American forever war. Seemingly, that is the rule of my upbringing.” – Benny Johnson [00:45]

4. Condemnation of Political Violence and Media Bias

• Benny recounts and condemns recent threats to his family and the assassination of Charlie Kirk ([03:14]–[09:49]).
  • “It's hard enough to raise your kids, man. … You shouldn't be having to raise your kids under terroristic threatening.” – Benny Johnson [05:20]
  • “I'm tired of watching my president get shot by left wing extremists, by watching my friends get shot by left wing extremist Charlie Kirk…” – Benny [06:29]
• Criticism of mainstream media, specifically NBC and ABC News, for alleged bias and for downplaying threats against conservatives ([10:21]–[14:12]; [112:56]).
  • “NBC’s angle on this is Benny deserves it.” – Benny Johnson [12:12]
  • “ABC News was trying to push a new hoax and JD [Vance] wasn’t having any of it.” – Alex [121:27]

5. Steve Hilton on Trump’s Outsider Diplomacy & the Abraham Accords

• Hilton explains how Trump’s business-first, outsider approach succeeded where career diplomats failed ([41:36]–[46:58]).
  • “Only he and his team, with their businesslike attitude… This really proves the point he made all along: an outsider can make progress, because it's about getting things done.” – Steve Hilton [41:56]
  • Connection to Shimon Peres’s belief: economic collaboration as a foundation for peace.
  • Critique of Biden’s ‘mediocrity’ vs. Trump’s strategy in the Middle East ([47:19]–[49:46]).
  • Endorsement of "peace through strength" and Trump’s ability to bring “hope.”

6. Live Remarks from President Trump in Egypt ([51:28]–[60:33])

• Trump calls the deal “once in a lifetime,” highlighting international unity.
  • “Nobody’s ever seen anything like what’s happening today. Countries have all come together… Every country has come together.” – Donald Trump [51:28]
  • “Iran did put out a statement… they support this deal very wholeheartedly.” – Donald Trump [51:45]
• Trump and his team describe next phases: body recovery, regional reconstruction, and a new council ("Board of Peace"), praising leadership and seeking stability ([52:03]–[55:25]).
• Egyptian President welcomes Trump: “I feel very confident that your excellency is the only one who is capable of bringing this about and bringing in this war.” [56:43]

7. Faith and Politics: Pastor Doug Wilson

• Discusses Christian doctrine on government, justice, and the proper attitude toward peace ([76:46]–[84:47]).
  • “There's a difference between peace as an idol and peace as the result of adherence to truth, objective truth. If you make peace an idol, then you’re going to appease and accommodate…the only thing that is going to restrain groups like Hamas… is the objective strength of people who are saying, no more.” – Pastor Doug Wilson [76:46; 80:38]
  • Criticizes the culture of releasing repeat violent criminals, connecting this to a failure of magistrates/government ([84:47]–[87:40]).
• Emphasizes Christian societal values as the moral foundation for the U.S. ([87:49]–[91:41]).
  • “This nation was conceived just for a moral and religious people, and is unsuitable for any other.” – Benny Johnson [87:55]
• Warns about cultural Marxism/nihilism, the loss of meaning among young people, and the importance of authentic spiritual leadership ([101:38]–[110:24]).
  • “The Overton Window… is farther to the right than it’s ever been in my lifetime. And that means we have an opportunity…those who know what time it is should use this opportunity to speak up.” – Pastor Doug Wilson [102:29]

8. Cultural/Christian Revival & Optimism for the Future

• Wilson and hosts celebrate a surge among young men seeking meaning and answers in Christianity ([105:53]–[110:24]).
  • “Charlie [Kirk] understood that young people need answers.” – Pastor Doug Wilson [106:29]
  • “Your life has a purpose. Your pursuit of that purpose gives you meaning…” – Benny Johnson [110:25]
• Recounts recent explosive growth in Christ Church and broader interest in traditional values.

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Notable Quotes & Timestamps

"Every single decade, every single year, there is a new American forever war. Seemingly, that is the rule of my upbringing."
– Benny Johnson [00:45]

"He [Trump] just oversaw the liberation of 20 Israeli hostages. Hamas no longer owns any."
– Alex [23:12]

“Only he and his team, with their businesslike attitude… This really proves the point he made all along…an outsider can make progress, because it's about getting things done.”
– Steve Hilton [41:56]

“This is not only the end of a war, this is the end of a age of terror and death and the beginning of the age of faith and hope and of God… This is the historic dawn of a new Middle East.”
– Donald Trump, Knesset speech [69:50]

"There's a difference between peace as an idol and peace as the result of adherence to truth, objective truth… If you stand for what is objectively right… your goal is peace, then what's going to happen is something like what we see here today in the Middle East."
– Pastor Doug Wilson [76:46]

"We laugh at honor and are shocked to find traitors in our midst. We castrate and bid the geldings to be fruitful."
– C.S. Lewis quotation (via Pastor Doug Wilson) [109:19]

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Memorable Moments

• Playful banter about Trump's “golden” 747 and Air Force One paint colors ([16:38]–[18:48]).
• Calls for Trump to deliver a speech in a “pharaoh hat” at the pyramids ([22:05]).
• Critique and humor around mainstream media coverage (e.g., Benny's “most punchable smile in the industry”) [13:42].
• Viral clip breakdown of JD Vance vs. George Stephanopoulos on ABC ([121:27]–[127:42]).
• Wilson’s account of Charlie Kirk’s approach motivating young men in faith ([106:29]).

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Important Timestamps

• [00:01]–[01:23]: Opening, hostages released, preview of Trump’s arrival.
• [23:12]: Confirmation of no more hostages.
• [41:36]–[49:46]: Steve Hilton provides foreign policy context.
• [51:28]–[60:33]: Trump’s live remarks in Egypt.
• [69:50]: Knesset speech highlights.
• [76:46]–[87:40]: Pastor Doug Wilson on Christian politics and justice.
• [105:53]–[110:24]: Christian revival among young Americans.
• [121:27]–[127:42]: JD Vance/George Stephanopoulos “rabbit hole” exchange.

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Structure & Flow

• Opening: Live anticipation and humor as Trump lands in Egypt
• News & Analysis: Real-time motorcade, historic context, celebration of peace
• Personal: Benny recounts threats and the Kirk assassination
• Guests: Steve Hilton on behind-the-scenes peace process; Doug Wilson on faith, justice, and revival
• Closing: Optimism about the future, ongoing Christian revival, plans for next show

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Tone & Language

Dynamic, direct, sometimes irreverent. Mixes celebratory optimism for Trump’s peace efforts with grievance and sharp critique of progressive media, globalism, and political violence. Inspirational and evangelical when discussing faith and values, personal and emotional regarding family and threats.

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For Listeners: What to Take Away

• The hosts frame Trump’s Egypt visit as a potentially world-historic move toward ending Middle East conflict.
• They see the release of hostages and regional unity as validation of outsider diplomacy and “America First” approaches.
• Faith and purpose—especially rooted in Christianity—are portrayed as critical to national and personal renewal.
• Persistent criticism of mainstream media, with the show positioning itself as a champion of “truth” and independent commentary.

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For further details, consult full episode transcript for direct context and additional nuance behind quotes and coverage.

Transcript

[Benny Johnson]

President Trump is set to land in Egypt at any second. We'll cover it all live. He will be meeting leaders in Egypt, Muslim leaders who talk about the peace summit after a speech in Israel's Knesset.

[Alex]

This would be Israel's House of Governance. It is a wonderful day because we do not want war. We want peace. We do not want hostages, terror, or horrors to become for any people. We want the end, of course, to.

[Benny Johnson]

The circumstances that could spark and ignite and create an environment where American troops.

[Alex]

Have to be deployed once more.

[Benny Johnson]

The godforsaken sandbox. These are the kind of regional conflicts that have marred my entire young life. Every single decade, every single year, there is a new American, forever war. Seemingly, that is the rule of my.

[Alex]

Upbringing, whether it's Desert Storm, whether it's.

[Benny Johnson]

Afghanistan, whether it's Iraq, and we're sick.

[Alex]

Of it as a people.

[Benny Johnson]

And so bringing peace to these conflicts is a wonderful and glorious thing.

[Alex]

And also, There have been 20 hostages now. Hamas holds zero hostages for the first time in years. It was a very, very good thing.

[Benny Johnson]

Ladies and gentlemen, Steve Hilton and Pastor.

[Alex]

Doug Wilson will be joining the program today.

[Benny Johnson]

And we're going to have a very.

[Alex]

Very interesting one again, as President Trump is about to land in Egypt. My name is Benny Johnson, and this is the Benny Show.

[Benny Johnson]

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[Alex]

747, all the golden skulls, ladies and gentlemen.

[Benny Johnson]

I think there's gonna be quite a.

[Alex]

Bit of gold, perhaps President Trump in Egypt today.

[Benny Johnson]

I'm not exactly sure what the Egyptian palaces that Donald Trump will be in today, what they will look like.

[Alex]

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[Benny Johnson]

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[Alex]

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[Benny Johnson]

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[Alex]

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[Benny Johnson]

All right, so President Trump has declared an end of terror and death. To raucous applause. Now, Alex, speaking of terror and death, I guess, like, this is the first time live since we had our own.

[Alex]

Little press conference about the terror against my family.

[Benny Johnson]

So, Alex, we have to, like, talk about this, right?

[Alex]

We can't just, like, we can't just sort of left people on a cliffhanger on Friday.

[Benny Johnson]

Then I went to go see Pam Bondi and we did a press conference about an individual.

[Alex]

Why don't you grab the filing, Alex?

[Benny Johnson]

The individual who's threatening my family and, well, now in prison, George Isabel is his name, he sent a letter to my home saying that I was going.

[Alex]

To die just like Charlie Kirk in an open field with blood gushing from.

[Benny Johnson]

My head and neck. I just want to do a massive shout out to the administration for taking these kind of threats seriously. We are a show of peace. We are going to celebrate Donald Trump today for bringing peace. I do not want pain or suffering for anyone in this country. I want to resolve our differences peacefully. I want to be able to debate. I don't want any harm to befall anyone. I prayed this past Sunday for Joe.

[Alex]

Biden, who's undergoing some pretty, pretty rough.

[Benny Johnson]

Chemotherapy right now for his terminal cancer.

[Alex]

That's the difference between us and the animals.

[Benny Johnson]

So, ladies and gentlemen, this is, these are the animals.

[Alex]

This is the federal filing that was.

[Benny Johnson]

Brought on behalf of my family.

[Alex]

When an individual who does not seem like a good hombre, let's just say, and George Russell Isabel Jr. Has been charged with threatening communications under 18, US code 8, 7 6C. This could potentially land him 10 years in prison. And the reason why I wanted to sort of be out front and front facing on all this is that it.

[Benny Johnson]

Shouldn'T happen to anyone. It's hard enough to raise your kids, man. It's hard enough to be a parent, have four little kids. Like that is tough, man.

[Alex]

It's the toughest thing you'll ever do.

[Benny Johnson]

It's the most rewarding thing you'll ever do.

[Alex]

But that's just the way it works, right? There's.

[Benny Johnson]

You can't say, you can't have all.

[Alex]

Reward and no, you know, no struggle through it, right?

[Benny Johnson]

And so, dude, you shouldn't be having.

[Alex]

To raise your kids under terroristic threatening.

[Benny Johnson]

There's a lot of families that this applies to. I don't care if you're just like somebody who works at the gas station.

[Alex]

Down the road and somebody wants to send you a mean letter, or if you are President Trump and his family.

[Benny Johnson]

These kind of things obviously need to be taken seriously and you have to.

[Alex]

Make examples of people.

[Benny Johnson]

So here's Austin Pam Bondi. Last Friday, we obviously cut the show, headed right over to the district Attorney's office here in Tampa and we did.

[Alex]

A press conference and we were able.

[Benny Johnson]

To sort of describe how I want.

[Alex]

This cycle of violence to end.

[Benny Johnson]

And I don't really care. Everyone attacked me for talking about how.

[Alex]

This is a cycle of violence, whether it's putting bullets through.

[Benny Johnson]

Like, like, I'm just, I'm tired of watching my president get shot by left.

[Alex]

Wing extremists, by watching my friends get shot by left wing extremist Charlie Kirk, by watching children get killed praying in churches in Minneapolis, watching federal law enforcement.

[Benny Johnson]

Facilities, the ICE facility in Dallas get shot up. Like, I'm tired of that. And they're all left wing radicals and the bullets are only coming from one side. And so, you know, at some point you have to have the balls to just straight up say it. And that's what I do, and that's what I did. And, you know, everyone came for me and I don't, don't care. You know, this problem's on your side. And if you don't think that it's.

[Alex]

A, you know, if you, if you.

[Benny Johnson]

Want to call it extremists and you want to write it off, well, the extremists have gone mainstream.

[Alex]

And the Democrat Party.

[Benny Johnson]

You might call it extreme, but I call it mainstream because the Democrat Party is trying to elect somebody in Virginia right now that did exactly what this dude is convicted of doing. Convicted, charged with doing. Arrested, charged and being held in federal prison for doing to my family. Jay Jones is his name. And he wrote Republicans saying that he wants to kill him. Please put up the photo.

[Alex]

Client saying he wants to kill him.

[Benny Johnson]

And he wants to kill their children. And so, like, Democrats can't run away from this issue. These are my kids. Like, these are my precious, three of.

[Alex]

My four precious children.

[Benny Johnson]

This was me right after the. Me right after the press conference.

[Alex]

I come home and this is what I come home to every single day. And I just don't get these monsters.

[Benny Johnson]

Like, why do they, why did I do this? You know, why did I orphan Charlie's.

[Alex]

Children.

[Benny Johnson]

Widow, his wife?

[Alex]

We're going to be at Charlie Kirk's. I'm be doing the show from D.C. tomorrow we'll be at Charlie Kirk's memorial service at the White House and his Medal of Freedom. He's. Charlie Kirk will be getting posthumously the Medal of Freedom from President Trump tomorrow will be there. We very much look forward to that and bringing you plenty of content. Also a big announcement that the show tomorrow will. We will have Eric Trump on the program tomorrow. We're going to be talking about all this again. This is my wife, Pam Bondi, and this is us right after the announcement that they've charged this individual.

[Benny Johnson]

Like, where do we draw the line? Democrats, millions of Democrats are set to.

[Alex]

Vote for a dude.

[Benny Johnson]

Here's the text messages that prove it. A dude that is straight up saying that Republican children are little fascists and they all deserve to die. This dude is running for the top law enforcement office in Virginia. We are the party of peace. And so it was, you know, I just wanted to use it as an opportunity to throw down and say, no.

[Alex]

Like, we're not going to, we're not going to allow you to threaten our children anymore. My innocent children are not little fascists. My innocent, beautiful children do not deserve to die.

[Benny Johnson]

And yes, your ass is going to prison.

[Alex]

So, like, don't threaten, don't threaten kids, dude. Right.

[Benny Johnson]

And we want to make examples of.

[Alex]

People so that doesn't happen anymore.

[Benny Johnson]

Anyway, that's what we, that's what we had. We had a very tight show on Friday.

[Alex]

Then we left to head on over.

[Benny Johnson]

Obviously to do that.

[Alex]

And we're thankful for all of your prayers and we've gotten like an enormous amount of outreach.

[Benny Johnson]

I know I'm not the only person that gets death threats. I know that this is a common thing. It shouldn't be a common thing. And the way to make it not a common thing is actually take action.

[Alex]

On some of them. So there it is. I do want to put up one final thing that I thought was fascinating, kind of telling on themselves here. NBC News, NBC News wrote, wrote an article about this circumstance using you guys.

[Benny Johnson]

If you, if you watch the stream, every. Like, if you watch the stream, you know that I'm like constantly smiling. I'm not a particularly like angry, rage filled person. I'd rather laugh than cry on the stream.

[Alex]

I don't cry on the stream.

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[Benny Johnson]

But I like, I'd rather laugh at a meme or like howl with laughter as we do meme reviews with our guests and everything. And we just did that. It was like, feel so funny. Sombrero hats and everything. We start the show. I don't know where the hell this photo's even from. Like, where do they even find this?

[Alex]

Where do they even find this?

[Benny Johnson]

But anyway, NBC wrote up like, I deserve it. This is like NBC's. NBC's angle on this is Benny deserves it.

[Alex]

Why?

[Benny Johnson]

Well, so the left wing terrorist that threatened to kill my family by NBC news is called a man. You can see here in the headline, Federal authorities charged a man with sending threatening letters to conservative influencer who has deep ties to the Trump administration. Look at how they describe me. The signal here, the what they're signaling.

[Alex]

To their left wing audience is I deserved it. That's their signaling. Friend with friends with Charlie, close with Trump.

[Benny Johnson]

That's what the signal is here. Isn't that amazing how they write this stuff up? Look at that. Look at the photo. Virtually every photo. I'm just grinning. I have this, have this. Look at that. Goodness, do I have Covid there? I don't know. I'm like kind of.

[Alex]

I'm a little bit sick right now.

[Benny Johnson]

But like I have this s eating grin, right? Like I just this, you know, I'm just a happy guy. Yeah, it's like, you know, I was like, I'd rather, again, we'd rather laugh and joke on the show. So I don't know where the hell they even found this. Where's this photo even from? But anyway, they search forever to make it look like I'm a bad guy. Yeah, that's right. That's exactly right. Killer Klein says I have the most punchable smile in the industry. Yes.

[Alex]

Fine.

[Benny Johnson]

I'm happy to own it.

[Alex]

That's right.

[Benny Johnson]

You know, we're going to go to.

[Alex]

Just a little announcement here. We're gonna go do some UFC training.

[Benny Johnson]

We're gonna do UFC training.

[Alex]

Next week with the guy named Bo Nickel, and.

[Benny Johnson]

He'S gonna actually kick my ass.

[Alex]

So that's gonna be on the 21st.

[Benny Johnson]

So I don't know if we'll be able to do that live.

[Alex]

I don't know. We still should talk with the team about it. Just too many. Too many amazing opportunities are coming up these days. We're gonna go and we're gonna train.

[Benny Johnson]

With the UFC fighter for his big.

[Alex]

Fight match, Madison Square Garden. He's a cool dude named Bo Nickel, and he's gonna.

[Benny Johnson]

He's gonna just kick my ass live on the stream. So you'll be able to see my.

[Alex]

Very punchable face get punched live on stream.

[Benny Johnson]

So you enjoy that.

[Alex]

I'm sure NBC News will be watching. All right, ladies and gentlemen.

[Benny Johnson]

So anyway, it's been an interesting couple of days.

[Alex]

Goodness gracious.

[Benny Johnson]

Back to peace. I want peace.

[Alex]

Here we go.

[Benny Johnson]

Here's a live shot of what looks like a fricking awesome event. I mean, that's not AI, is it? What the hell is that? What is this? This is the live shot of what President Trump's going to do.

[Alex]

I mean, he's gonna, like, shoot a.

[Benny Johnson]

Flaming arrow at the top and then light it like the Olympics.

[Alex]

I don't know. It's got some really cool.

[Benny Johnson]

What is this, guys? It's awesome. This is the live shot of President Trump, soon to be.

[Alex]

Soon to be landing in or just landed in Egypt.

[Benny Johnson]

Do we have anything? Do we have any shots of Air Force One guys yet?

[Alex]

President Trump hasn't spoken or done anything. We just have this. Whatever this is.

[Benny Johnson]

Yeah, yeah.

[Alex]

So Air Force One just landed. Okay, got it. But this is the stream. So we don't have Air Force One. We don't have a shot of Air Force One yet, so I guess we'll see. Is that a windmill?

[Benny Johnson]

Ah, there we go.

[Alex]

Nice. She's got multiple. You got Air Force One. We got Mini Me there. Here's President Trump rolling. They see me rolling. They hating patrolling. Gonna catch me bringing peace to the Middle East. Don't.

[Benny Johnson]

Don't do it.

[Alex]

Don't do it. Don't release the album.

[Benny Johnson]

I've never claimed to have any musical Talent or capacity?

[Alex]

I don't. I'm not gifted that at all. It's embarrassing. Don't even want you to stand next, you know, don't even, like, sit next to me at church. It's so embarrassing what I'm singing. But here we are. Here is Air Force One.

[Benny Johnson]

Please repaint it.

[Alex]

Please get rid of those periwinkle blues.

[Benny Johnson]

That is such baby.

[Alex]

That's such a baby color for Air Force One. Please repaint it, damn it. Please repaint Air Force One.

[Benny Johnson]

You can see Air Force One taxiing here. President Trump has done a tour de force of the Middle east again.

[Alex]

He's coming from Israel right now.

[Benny Johnson]

This is a live shot.

[Alex]

President Trump landing in Egypt.

[Benny Johnson]

Got some very cool. Got a very cool video here of.

[Alex]

Egyptian Air Force bringing in. Bringing in Air Force One. You can see here you got the Egyptian. You got the Egyptian Air Force.

[Benny Johnson]

Shepherding.

[Alex]

In Air Force one. Couple of F16s there. American F16s, but owned by the Egyptian Air Force. Pretty cool. Flying in formation. And you got Donald Trump. Sweet. Great.

[Benny Johnson]

Okay, here comes Trump.

[Alex]

What up?

[Benny Johnson]

This is live.

[Alex]

This is Trump.

[Benny Johnson]

Alx.

[Alex]

Has.

[Benny Johnson]

Is obsessed with the new Air Force One.

[Alex]

So am I. I am sick of these blues.

[Benny Johnson]

I am sick of this. Alx, please get like the, like a.

[Alex]

Photo of the new Air Force One with actual masculine colors.

[Benny Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, the actual mat.

[Alex]

Like, I'm so tired of this.

[Benny Johnson]

Like, I, you know, I have two.

[Alex]

I have two boys. One is eight months old. One is two years old. They have little. They have blue rooms and they're like.

[Benny Johnson]

Babies, but not even their baby rooms.

[Alex]

Are as like periwinkle baby blue.

[Benny Johnson]

Is that like, I'm sick of it. Like, I'm sick of it. Put the act, like, put the. Make it an actual.

[Alex]

Yeah, that's a good example.

[Benny Johnson]

Make it so. So here, Klein, if you could blow.

[Alex]

If you could load that up and show people the difference. Oh, goodness. What's that? Yeah, okay. There you go.

[Benny Johnson]

Wouldn't that be great? Isn't that what it should look like? Those are actual. Those are masculine colors for Air Force One. Stop it with this, like, Jimmy Carter lame ass baby ass blue.

[George Stephanopoulos]

Nah.

[Alex]

Yeah, make it masculine. Okay, now back to the live shot. Show the people the difference. Oh, okay. We just have a Mercedes. Okay, here's Trump. They don't have the staircase over there yet. Here comes the motorcade. I love these.

[Benny Johnson]

I love these lives. It's so fun to, like, travel with the President. They get these for some reason, especially in, like, the Arab countries. They have like every Conceivable camera angle stuff. So it's great. It's just great. They did this all the way through Qatar, right in Saudi Arabia. It was fun because, like, they had like 50 different camera angles you caught every second.

[Alex]

That's great. So this is not going to be Trump's car, obviously. At least I don't think Trump rides in the Beast. Everywhere he goes, right? He rides in our vehicle. Not a foreign vehicle, but here we go. Cars are pulling up there.

[Benny Johnson]

You can see the military marching.

[Alex]

It's always cool to see this kind of stuff. Pomp and circumstance, that's what they call.

[Killer Klein]

It.

[Alex]

Ladies and gentlemen. These kind of things, these kind of events cost you a pretty penny if.

[Benny Johnson]

You find yourself spiraling into. If you can't afford a motorcade or a private jet, I'm with you. But there's a lot of horrible financial.

[Alex]

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[Benny Johnson]

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It is a huge crisis in America. Horrible rates in the 20s and 30%. It's illegal, in my opinion. It's usury. But nonetheless, when wages are flat and prices keep climbing, it's hard to make ends meet.

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[Alex]

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[Benny Johnson]

He got even the dude. Open the door, man.

[Alex]

They are cooking today.

[Benny Johnson]

They're cooking.

[Alex]

We got no.

[Benny Johnson]

There's no, like, audio on this. It's just like.

[Alex]

It's just the white noise, right, of the engines roaring.

[Benny Johnson]

When there's audio, we'll cut in.

[Alex]

Got the Egyptian military there.

[Benny Johnson]

Will Trump go to the.

[Alex]

Is he going to give a speech from the pyramids? Please let that happen.

[Benny Johnson]

Please let it happen. Is Trump. Can Trump, like, go Trump emerge out.

[Alex]

Of the pyramids wearing one of the.

[Benny Johnson]

Pharaoh hats?

[Alex]

I think it was in the meme this morning. Look at him go. Here we go. Here comes Trump.

[Benny Johnson]

Let's go, boy.

[Alex]

Get rid of those colors on Air Force One. Please. Alex, what's the status on that? When are they gonna get rid of these colors? What's the status on these things? What are they gonna do? What, am I gonna repaint this 747? I'm gonna get some, like, real colors on it. Yes. I'm sick of this baby blue.

[Benny Johnson]

Anyway.

[Alex]

Ladies and gentlemen, if you're just joining.

[Benny Johnson]

Us, we are watching President Trump live.

[Alex]

Right now, arriving in Egypt to meet with Arab leaders bringing peace to the Middle East. He just. President Trump just oversaw the liberation of 20 Israeli hostages. Hamas no longer owns any.

[Benny Johnson]

No longer has any hostages.

[Alex]

President Trump delivering remarkable speech this morning in the Knesset. We want to play you clips of that.

[Benny Johnson]

Of course, we have it for the show, but this is live right now.

[Alex]

And it's always really interesting to see. Let's pop. Let's pop on in so you can see the Egyptian president who will be waiting for Donald Trump. Nice. Some dude just driving a Jeep. It's Egypt, you know, probably part of a tour group.

[Benny Johnson]

Donald Trump, please, I beg of you.

[Alex]

Do the speech from the actual pyramids. Do it in a pharaoh hat. Now back to this ridiculous sculpture, this horrible AI Sculpture.

[Benny Johnson]

Show us Trump.

[Alex]

Anyway, I don't know why they cut to this. Just in case. Oh, yeah, please. Yeah, that's exactly right. Beautiful. All right.

[Benny Johnson]

Alx saying as soon as February 2026.

[Alex]

We could potentially get a new Air Force One. Sweet. Alex is saying he's too far from the pyramids. Well, dude, you don't know that he could do it. You don't know it. Here's what we believe that President Trump could look like during his speech today. This is a artist's rendering. This is according to the historic. This is according to historians. This is. This is according to historians, predicting what President Trump may look like today during his speech in Egypt. This came directly from the White House. These are some of Trump's top advisors working with historians to make sure that he has a 100 historically accurate speech today. And here's how President Trump's gonna suit.

[Killer Klein]

Up.

[Benny Johnson]

After freeing the Israelis. Right? We're just playing the oldies. Just play. Just let it. Why? Why not just lean into history? Okay, so Trump free. So Trump frees the Israelites. Pharaoh Trump frees the Israelites. Let it go. Call him Donald Tut. Okay?

[Alex]

Do it.

[Pastor Doug Wilson]

Do it.

[Benny Johnson]

Donald Tut. He spends the morning freeing the Israelites. And now Pharaoh Donald conquering Egypt.

[Alex]

Just play. Just play the Old Testament out.

[Benny Johnson]

Just do it. That's what Trump's doing right now. He's playing out the Old Testament. Boys, we have a shot of Trump's plane.

[Alex]

Can we see Trump's?

[Benny Johnson]

Do we got any, any. No.

[Alex]

It's just this all over again.

[Benny Johnson]

I think this is the proper opportunity to.

[Alex]

Looks like we're trying to find it. I just don't want to miss Trump, you know, exiting the plane. It's always fun. Then as Trump's traveling, we can pop in and out of some of the highlights from today.

[Benny Johnson]

There he is. Just in time. Freaking great. This is awesome. Klein, we have a good track to play. Yeah, play me some music. Let's go. Trump is your president. Got Trump as your president. Future of MAGA is here. This is the one time I was on a Trump track. Yeah, why not? They should actually.

[Alex]

They should actually be blaring this. All right. I love it.

[Benny Johnson]

Holds up. It holds up.

[Alex]

Yeah.

[Benny Johnson]

Age is like fine wine. Age is like fine wine. So this is President Trump Roland with the Egyptian leadership.

[Alex]

President Prime Minister Trump just chilling out. Got some of our squad there. Obviously, we know Trump's cameraman in there pretty well. Good, homie. Donald is rolling and he's going to the motorcade. The president of peace, most powerful man in the world and somebody who has just delivered peace in the Middle east now getting just flocked and mobbed here in Egypt. Everyone's sprinting to the cars and there we go. And they're off.

[Benny Johnson]

Alx, what do we expect from President Trump? He's going to be meeting with a.

[Alex]

Bunch of Arab leaders and he's going to be giving a speech. That's what we know. Donald Trump's going to be talking about peace in our time in the Middle East. So that's freaking cool. And we say great job. We're excited about it. So now comes the motorcade.

[Benny Johnson]

Will we get.

[Alex]

Will we get a camelcade? This I do not know. I'm not sure.

[Benny Johnson]

We do have.

[Alex]

Okay, yeah, great.

[Benny Johnson]

We do have an example of what.

[Alex]

The camelcade looked like. And let's just go ahead and see. Watch him depart here before we play that client. Looks like everyone's loading up into the vehicles. They're moving. You can see Donald right there in.

[Benny Johnson]

The car with what I assume to be the Egyptian president.

[Alex]

They're rolling.

[Benny Johnson]

Trump fist pumping out of the window. You can see him. Look at him go. Look at Trump fist pumping. That's freaking awesome. Let's go.

[Alex]

Dude.

[Benny Johnson]

Just brought peace.

[Alex]

The Middle east hostages are released. Uh oh, it's. It's their feed, not ours. Of course. We'll see. Best production team on earth will make sure that we don't miss a moment and are locked in. There we go. Look at the tires on that thing. Holy smokes. Just such a monster. I really want to ride in it one day. I do. We've been in a couple motorcades. It's been cool.

[Benny Johnson]

But.

[Alex]

That is a. That is a tank. That is a physical tank. That thing can, like, withstand ID and nuclear blast. Like, that is a real monster. The beast, it's really something else.

[Benny Johnson]

Completely bulletproof.

[Alex]

Weighs, like three tons. One hell of a vehicle. There they go.

[Benny Johnson]

And they're off.

[Alex]

It's so cool. It's so much fun.

[Benny Johnson]

I just. I don't. You just nerd it out, like, it's.

[Alex]

Just so cool to see.

[Benny Johnson]

Let's stay on this for a little bit, guys. I just love. I freaking love.

[Alex]

I love seeing these. These monster motorcades rolling through these Arab countries. It's really cool. They always do it up, and it's always like, quite a scene.

[Benny Johnson]

Look at that.

[Alex]

It's interesting, right? It's like, what is that even. It's a. It's just so. It's just such a.

[Benny Johnson]

Such a monster procession. It shows just the.

[Alex]

The absolute power, the absolute empire and power of this moment. Magnificent, magnanimous, majestic, Strong, strong, strong.

[Benny Johnson]

For those of you who may have.

[Alex]

Seen some of the news that there was an explosion in Egypt. There was. It was really far away from. Oh, look at that. Welcome to the land of peace. These billboards say. Look at that.

[Benny Johnson]

Welcome to the land of peace. They got these massive billboards for Trump.

[Alex]

Welcome to the land of peace. I love it. We pray for peace. We pray for peace together in peace.

[Benny Johnson]

Something that we have been, I mean.

[Alex]

Obviously wanting on this program. Something that we have been forthright in explaining our worldview on this. We know that this has been obviously an issue that has ripped sort of ripped the nations apart. The war in Gaza. We want it to simply end. We want it to end. Very strong opinions on both sides. We are anti war. We're anti war because we are America first, because our founders warned us about entanglements in foreign wars. And so we say, please. We pray for peace.

[Benny Johnson]

Ladies and gentlemen, if you are praying.

[Alex]

Well, the Hallow app can really ensure that. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no. Klein, keep that up. No, no, no. I want to see it. Yeah, I want to see it. We can continue our prayers for President Trump as he rolls through. I just love seeing these motorcades.

[Benny Johnson]

I love the random Jeep in there. The dude.

[Alex]

The dude in the random Jeep that.

[Benny Johnson]

Was a part of the Tour group just got roped in. We've been praying for peace, man. If you want to pray along with.

[Alex]

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[Killer Klein]

We.

[Alex]

Pray for peace as we watch President Trump roll out.

[Benny Johnson]

Is that what your roads look like, by the way? Always kind of blown. I'm always kind of amazed at these.

[Alex]

Arab countries have these like pristine and gorgeous, beautiful streets. And the streets in Tampa, Florida look like Mogadishu.

[Benny Johnson]

Don't see any potholes in these streets. Amazing what that USAID money has done.

[Alex]

For some of the world's most third world backwaters.

[Benny Johnson]

Some of the countries that hate us.

[Alex]

The very most, yet our own country, we have some real infrastructure problems.

[Benny Johnson]

The infrastructure in these countries are incredible.

[Alex]

Well done, usaid. Maybe we can help out Americans one of these, one of these days. Be awesome. All right, ladies and gentlemen, we're watching President Trump roll out through Egypt. Got some glitches here in the actual feed. There was no glitching this morning as President Trump was doing God's work. Truly inside of Knesset. This is of course the House of Government in Egypt. I'm sorry, in Israel. President Trump is heading to the House of government in Egypt right now. Currently on your screen, President Trump receiving a standing ovation. Man, these are just cool shots, man, they're just cool shots.

[Steve Hilton]

Looks.

[Alex]

Really beautiful, actually. Look at this. You can see the motorcade there. That's President Trump's motorcade rolling through the Egyptian capital. President Trump again at the Knesset this morning. Alx, why don't you call out like, where are we going to go with this one? I want some of President Trump's top line for his speech this morning that just received such applause from everyone, including Hillary Clinton. Goodness gracious. Goodness gracious. So where are we going here? Where are we going? Okay, here we go. Some of the other, some of the other scenes. Donald Trump traveling through Egypt.

[Benny Johnson]

Hey, boys, I want a Donald Trump.

[Alex]

Knesset speech clip, please. Get one of those locked and loaded, please. Maybe a supercut. Too short. Get me a supercut.

[Benny Johnson]

Here's President Trump's arriving.

[Alex]

President Trump's arrival here in Egypt. These are always so fun. It's hard to cut away, honestly. Always so fun to watch. Neat to see.

[Benny Johnson]

Guys, is Steve Hilton set?

[Alex]

All right, I want to bring on Steve Hilton, the next governor of California. Steve Hilton has worked in foreign policy and has assisted in the arena of great international diplomacy. It's really fun to watch all this taking place live. It's historic. Ladies and gentlemen, we're joined by Steve.

[Benny Johnson]

Hilton here to chat through.

[Alex]

We're not going to cut away from this Trump live feed because they're really fun, but Steve has some very interesting insights on what's going on behind the scenes. Welcome Steve Hilton.

[Benny Johnson]

Benny Johnson here.

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[Benny Johnson]

Steve, what's up, man? This is great.

[Alex]

We're just rolling.

[Steve Hilton]

It's amazing. No, I love it. It's great. What a wonderful day. An amazing day. I mean, I was just in tears watching some of those reunions. We've already seen more good things to come, by the way. Exactly as you were noting, no homeless zombies wandering around that location.

[Benny Johnson]

Yeah. Yeah. What's the deal here, man?

[Steve Hilton]

Yeah, you and I saw together last time. We were together.

[Killer Klein]

Yeah.

[Steve Hilton]

In. In L. A. Look, a couple of things. First of all, I've been. That place is an amazing place. Sharm el Sheikh. I've been there for not. Not as. Not meetings as grand as this one, but similar kinds of things. There is something, as the president, he's doing amazing. What an incredible leader. It is just stunning to see this. The thing that I'm reflecting on, watching all of this unfold, is the fact that only he and his team, with their businesslike attitude to this. This really proves the point he made all along, from the very first moment he came on the scene, which is an outsider who's not steeped in the usual kind of BS of politics and diplomacy and whatever, can make progress, because it's about getting things done. And there's a particular part of this, a story I just want to tell you, which is. So Jared and Ivanka are good friends of mine, and I saw Jared recent, maybe a couple of years ago, actually now, one time in his office in Florida. And I was telling him a story about a business that I started many years ago back in England called Good Business. And one of the things we got involved in was business alliances that could sort of cross borders that would lead to peace and progress. And we. I. I wrote a book about it about 25 years ago now, and it came to the attention of Shimon Perez, who was then the foreign minister of Israel. And we got this amazing. I remember the days. This shows how old I am. We had a fax rattling in our fax machine in our office in London, and it had a strange kind of crest at the top. And it was from Shimon Perez. He said, I'm very interested in your ideas. I saw a newspaper report. Could you. If you're ever in Israel, we'd love to see you. Of course. What an amazing invitation. Went to Israel, met Mr. Peres and started a real relationship there. And I was. And the reason that he reached out was that he, for decades, had believed that the key to peace in the Middle east was business, business partnerships between Israeli companies and Arab companies and international companies. I remember him telling me a story about a pasta company, Barilla Pasta, and they growing wheat in the desert and making the past amazing. Anyway, I was telling Jared this story. He literally got up from the table we're at, went to his bookshelf and got off the table. A book by Shimon Perez. And he said, this was my manual for the Abraham Accords. And it was Perez's book. And it was literally marked up all the way through. Post it notes and little underlinings all the way through by Jared. He said, this is what it was all about, is finding the economic interest, and that's how you get to peace. And so when you see these articles now, you know there's 25 books that Jared Kushner read that helped it. Well, that was one of them. And it was just an amazing moment. And you see this and it's the same point. It's people with a business mindset who can get things done where all the kind of useless diplomats have failed for decades.

[Alex]

It's incredible to see. Yes.

[Benny Johnson]

Okay, so give me the sort of 35,000 foot perspective here, Steve, on what's happening this morning. This does seem to be one of the last festering points that was creating.

[Alex]

Real frictions, obviously, in the Middle east.

[Benny Johnson]

As President Trump has expanded the Abraham Accords, as he has traveled obviously to multiple Arab nations and had a beautiful.

[Alex]

And dignified and incredible audience there, and then obviously has been a major friend to Israel. I think you are witnessing the beginnings.

[Benny Johnson]

Of a new era here. Is that the way that you. Is that your assessment?

[Steve Hilton]

And why? Because he's offered them something extraordinary, which none of these previous politicians have done from America or anywhere else. They've been bogged down in the details of, well, this agreement and the specifics. Whereas President Trump, I mean, even the things that everyone laughed at, you know, his vision of a beautiful real estate development in Gaza. But that is a vision of hope and optimism, and no one's had that before. And so he's laying out into the region this vision of being able to live free from the medieval barbarism that's basically been the norm in so many parts of the Middle east for so long. And saying, you don't have to live like this, you really don't. And you just see what's happening in Saudi Arabia and the movement there on some of these things that have just been stuck for so long because you've got a leader there that embraces the modern world and Wants to move beyond the kind of medieval approach to everything that's the role of women in society, whatever it may be. And I think that, that, that energy towards progress and just normality that the president is bringing and putting out there hope, that's actually what he's offering them, is hope that you don't have to live the way you've been living.

[Alex]

So it was always the Arab nations that needed to come together in order to assist in ending this war. Obviously that's where Hamas's funding comes from.

[Benny Johnson]

In the first place.

[Alex]

You needed to bring both sides together, obviously.

[Benny Johnson]

Right. But President Trump being able to work.

[Alex]

With the Arab nations is really the.

[Benny Johnson]

Key factor that's changed everything.

[Steve Hilton]

Exactly.

[Benny Johnson]

We watched how disgraceful Joe Biden, his. Do you remember the fist bump? Oh my goodness, it's so humiliating for America.

[Steve Hilton]

And he was the great foreign policy expert. That's what I always said about Biden, that, you know, he was so. He was such an utter mediocrity on every level. Even the thing he was supposed to be the best at, foreign policy. It was a total disaster. Decades of experience in the Senate, honestly. Whereas, and again, I want to give credit to the strategy here with President Trump and his team. Do you remember how mocked he was the very first international visit in the first Trump presidency, Saudi Arabia, the first place he went, and that amazing welcome in the desert and so on and all the kind of clever people here. Mocked. Oh, can you believe it? He's done sucking up to dictators in the desert and blah, blah, blah. It's. This is the product of that. What you're seeing today is the product of all those years of actually having a really thoughtful strategy about how you make things happen. A totally different approach and again founded on finding the mutual self interest that's called deal making. So it's to me, such a glorious validation of everything about President Trump and his approach in a clearer way than almost anything else we can see. I mean, you can add to that the, the, his line, peace through strength repeated over and over. You gotta, you gotta add in there the way he's shown such resolve on, you know, whether that's the, you know, the very kind of surgical and limited Iran strike on the, on the nuclear bunker, you know, all of these things together, the long term thinking, focus on business, building relationships, bringing the pariah into the fold, all of that was part of this process and it's just so wonderful to see it come to fruition. Look, it's the beginning and so there's a long way to go. But it's, it's, there's more optimism here than we've seen in, I don't know, half a century.

[Alex]

Yes, that's right. You bring, you bring everyone together and everybody wins.

[Benny Johnson]

And if you have an outsider that actually doesn't have the baggage and the weight of so many, so much corruption and every, every Clinton foundation donor and Joe Biden and every kickback and every bag of cash and all of the scepter fuge that they had on his family, I mean, you can see how all these, how this stuff never happens, how this, how nothing ever gets done because they're all such corrupt bastards.

[Steve Hilton]

Exactly.

[Benny Johnson]

You can see why they all have so many vested interests and they claim that that's Trump, but actually Trump's the opposite, man. He just wants everyone to get rich.

[Steve Hilton]

Everyone.

[Benny Johnson]

Yeah. And, and that you can't get rich when you're at war. You know, war is actually what steals.

[Alex]

All of your wealth and gives it the worst people.

[Benny Johnson]

Okay, so speaking of the worst people and individuals who have really nothing to offer except for corruption and irrational rage. And I'm not talking about Hamas. I'm, I'm talking about Katie Porter case. So. Katie Porter. And it looks like we have Trump's comments here, but it's just like a really quick top line here, Steve. That's not, that's not been great in California. Really quickly. What's, what's the state of play now?

[Steve Hilton]

So the thing, so I'm just going to be very clear. It's, you know, it's not about one terrible interview. It's about 15 years of terrible policy. And actually the attitude you saw from Katie Porter, they're all like that, the California Democrats. Arrogant, entitled, totally resisting any kind of accountability for their monumental failures. Everything a failure in California after 15 years of one party rule. And so I just think, you know, she highlights the way that they all are so contemptuous of any kind of opposition, the way they speak about Trump supporters here, you know, and I think they've got a massive reckoning coming next year. I'm very confident now more than ever that I'll be elected governor next year.

[Alex]

We love that.

[Benny Johnson]

We can't wait to help you out with voter ID as well.

[Steve Hilton]

Exactly.

[Alex]

In California, which we are going to rock and roll.

[Steve Hilton]

Fantastic.

[Benny Johnson]

We're going to go to the president here who's speaking live. Steve, thank you so very much.

[Alex]

Great to be with you. All right, God bless you. Okay, here we go.

[Donald Trump]

Once in a lifetime deal. Nobody's ever seen anything like what's happening today. And countries have all come together, all different countries. Some liked each other, some didn't, most didn't. And they've all come together. Every country has come together. And by the way, Iran did put out a statement, you know, that they support this deal very wholeheartedly. So that was in itself something. But no, I think they want to that's all I do in my life. I make deals. And they want to make a deal.

[Alex]

Now that the living hostages have been.

[Pastor Doug Wilson]

Returned, can you please tell us what.

[Donald Trump]

The next steps are? Well, they're going and looking for bodies. It's a pretty gruesome task. And they're, they know where numerous are, as you know, I guess five or six are in yet now, but they're looking for bodies. They know the areas and the search parties out. And they're doing it in conjunction with Israel. And they, they are going to be finding quite a few of them.

[Benny Johnson]

President Trump, can you tell us when.

[Pastor Doug Wilson]

Phase two of the negotiations will begin?

[Donald Trump]

Well, it started, I mean, it started as far as we're concerned, phase two started and, you know, the phases are all a little bit mixed in with each other. They're going to start cleaning up. You look at Gaza needs a lot of cleanup. That's why when I talked in my speech, I talked about the debris. I use the word debris. That's debris times 10. So we're going to, they're going to really do a job. They have a lot of power in another room. You have the wealthiest, some of the wealthiest nations in the world, all leaders. The big leaders are here, the emirs and the kings and everybody. And it's a very interesting group. I guess we have like 35 countries, and that's only because they were the 35 that we invited. Everybody that we invited came. So there's a lot of respect. And I think you'll see some tremendous progress both in the Middle East. This country is doing very well. It has good leadership. It's about leadership. And it's really nice when you say how is your crime situation? And they like don't even know what you're talking about. What do you mean crime? We you don't have crime because if he has crime, he puts it out very quickly. Some people think that's not nice, but I think it's great because people don't want to be mugged and smashed and they don't want to be stupid people. They have a place that is doing very well. We're very proud of him because we knew each other from the beginning. The first time I met, it was in a hotel and I was going to meet him him and then Hillary Clinton was following me. You remember Hillary Clinton. And he liked me so much. He never even got to see Hillary. He saw it for about two seconds. He didn't really want to waste a lot of time. He knew what was going to happen. But that was the first time we met and we had a very good chemistry together and it continues till today. So I want to thank you all very much. I appreciate the way you covered the this really momentous. I've never seen anything like it. The level of love, the level of respect for what it is and it's, you know, it's peace in the Middle east that everybody said it's not possible to do and it's going to happen and it is happening as before your very eyes and that's why it's become so fascinating. Marco, do you have anything to say?

[Marco]

Egypt's been a phenomenal participant. I think both Steve and Jared will tell you critical role they played and they can tell you themselves. They hosted the talks here and they're going to play a very important role now in the follow up the implementation of this which is really, it's not simply about restoring Gaza, it is about transforming the region. So we have an incredible partner, a long alliance, very capable partner here and a tremendous collection of leaders. This is clearly in my mind, I think in the mind of everyone in this room. Probably one of the most important days for world peace in 50 years. That's not an exaggeration.

[Steve Hilton]

Only 50, maybe 100 since the end.

[Marco]

Of World War II.

[Donald Trump]

Mr. Wyckoff and Mr. Kushner, I'm curious. You've played such an important role in.

[Benny Johnson]

The tactical negotiations here. What will your role be going forward as a lot more has to be brought to the table here?

[Donald Trump]

The minute we had ink the deal, Jared and I were already working on the implementation so side of the deal. So we're dug in.

[Alex]

We'll be here quite a bit.

[Donald Trump]

That's at the direction of the President. That's probably going to be one of the most important phases here. Jared is remarkable to work with. I talk about it all the time. And of course we both love working for the president.

[Alex]

So it's a feels like a very honorable job.

[Donald Trump]

Mr. President, would you like to say something with the interpreter?

[Killer Klein]

Yes.

[I]

Well, first, Ron say I welcome you to Egypt. It's a great pleasure and an honor to have you with us here in the city of peace Sh to extend on behalf of all Egyptians and peace lovers around the world. Salute the appreciation and the respect this unprecedented and momentous accomplishment. I feel very confident that your excellency is the only one who is capable of bringing this about and bringing in this war. I even said that very precisely during my communication with your excellence, that you are the only one who is able to bring about peace and to achieve peace.

[Donald Trump]

Thank you for recognizing the statement.

[I]

What we need to do now is to fix site the ceasefire, make sure that it maintains the states that we can deliver all of the remaining. The bodies of the deceased to the families. And this is very important to bring in more humanitarian assistance into the strip and working very closely on following up the rest of steps that should be taken to make this successful.

[Donald Trump]

Mr. President will be very great. He's a good man.

[Alex]

Thank you.

[Donald Trump]

He's a good man. We're with him all the way.

[Alex]

Will he be on the Board of Peace?

[Donald Trump]

Sir? I'd like to have him on the board. I'd like to. We may need an interpreter.

[George Stephanopoulos]

The pencil.

[Alex]

Okay.

[I]

The Board of Peace. I'll be there.

[Donald Trump]

We've had many leaders want to be on the board. Actually, the Board of Peace, it's taken on Steve, I'd say a life of its own. You want to discuss that? What's happened? I. I think we have a long list of. Ask for kids to be on that. Everybody wants to do this. That's very nice. That's better than the other way. Usually it's the other way. Nobody wants to be on the board, but it's. It's really taken on. This whole thing has taken on a life that's very different. So it's been. It's been really a great. A great honor, and you people have done a fantastic job. I want to tell you that. We appreciate it very much. Thank you very much, everybody. All right.

[Killer Klein]

All right.

[Alex]

Thank you.

[Benny Johnson]

Goodness gracious. Blowing my eardrum out.

[Alex]

You scream so much.

[I]

I just want to look forward to your excellency's support and your sponsorship with us in the conference for the Reconstruction.

[Donald Trump]

Thank you 100%. Thank you. Thank you, everybody.

[Benny Johnson]

All right, let's just see. Let's just see if they answer any further questions. Holy spirit smokes. That was loud. Okay, we'll be at the White House tomorrow with Trump. I mean, can you put all that in context? We'll be at the White House tomorrow with Trump. Alex, President Trump is going to be delivering official remarks. Correct?

[Alex]

What is the run of show here? What is going to happen next? President Trump delivering a speech in Egypt to global leaders. I'm not sure what that means.

[Benny Johnson]

They have gathered in Charles Sheikh Charm El Shek.

[Alex]

I don't pretend to be particularly fancy. Not one of those guys who can.

[Benny Johnson]

Like tell you every capital of the.

[Alex]

World and everything like that. And then.

[Benny Johnson]

I know the capitals of the 50 states in America. That's like pretty much what I care about. I can tell you. I can tell you about Amory, Mississippi. But ladies and gentlemen, he's in Charmel Shek.

[Alex]

In Egypt.

[Benny Johnson]

World leaders will be there. This is what the shots gonna look like.

[Alex]

Very interesting.

[Benny Johnson]

You can see the flags of every Arab of many Arab nations.

[Alex]

You can see the flags of some European nations there.

[Benny Johnson]

Will we have a bunch of European leaders there.

[Alex]

Who knows? This is what it's gonna look like. It says peace in the Middle East. We're certainly going to catch this speech. It's gonna be one, one heck of a speech here. Very interesting, ladies and gentlemen. You see President Trump there recruiting for the.

[Benny Johnson]

The peace.

[Alex]

What is.

[Benny Johnson]

What is it called, guys?

[Alex]

The Peace Consortium. What's it called?

[Benny Johnson]

What was Trump recruiting there for the Peace Council, right?

[Alex]

Yeah, the Super Friends Peace Council. President Trump recruiting there. The President of Israel, of Egypt in order to be on it. Very complimentary. Roasting Hillary Clinton a little bit, which was hilarious.

[Benny Johnson]

But if you have recruitment issues, whether you're trying to staff the Peace Council or whether you're trying to hire at.

[Alex]

Your small business, like me, we are constantly hiring at this business. We've hired some new people at this company, which is. We're very excited about Kangmin.

[Benny Johnson]

You get that tweet, Alex, please.

[Alex]

Because not everyone can recruit like this. Not everyone can recruit like this. I want to tell a fun story about this team and exactly what we were able to do.

[Benny Johnson]

There's a talented young creator and Kang.

[Alex]

Min Lee, who got fired from his job, got canceled because of his beliefs, because he loved freedom and he loved America. He supported Charlie Kirk and he posted that I was. Well, not. I was fired from my job again for my beliefs.

[Benny Johnson]

And that post went viral and made me very upset.

[Alex]

We were flying at the time, New York. But I saw it, I was like, well, this would be a fun little project.

[Benny Johnson]

How about we go ahead and promote.

[Alex]

Kangmin and the story?

[Benny Johnson]

I will respond and say, I'll respond.

[Alex]

To this post here that you can see here, did 13 million views and.

[Benny Johnson]

I didn't know the guy. You know, I haven't. I didn't know him. I never met him. But I said, yo, like, why don't you come work for my company?

[Alex]

You seem like a Smart guy responded right here under Elon Musk.

[Benny Johnson]

I'll hire you. You were fired for your beliefs. I'll hire you for your beliefs. Want to come work for me? And he said, yo, can you slot? Can you hop up in the DMs? We went back and forth, had a nice little chat.

[Alex]

Seems like a great, really sharp young man. Extremely talented.

[Benny Johnson]

And within 24 hours, we were able to get Kang Min Lee on our team. And well, he started this weekend, actually. Proud to announce that Kingman Lee has now accepted a position at our growing media company. He will join Team Benny immediately, making this the single shortest cancellation in modern history.

[Alex]

A little less than 24 hours.

[Benny Johnson]

Kangman will work on our editorial and creative teams at Benny Media.

[Alex]

He's a skill editor and a sharp digital talent. And we're very proud to have him join the team. Congratulations.

[Benny Johnson]

So awesome joining the ranks.

[Alex]

How well did this post do, by the way?

[Benny Johnson]

Like, I wanted people, I wanted to take dark energy and turn it into good energy.

[Alex]

Okay. It was seen by millions. 42,000 likes.

[Benny Johnson]

Great. You want to take the bad energy, okay, and then turn it into good energy.

[Alex]

That's what we can do here.

[Benny Johnson]

So that was our recruitment process. But not every recruitment process for every job has to do with a massive viral post on X.

[Alex]

Sometimes you'll need ZipRecruiter.

[Benny Johnson]

ZipRecruiter is how we actually hire an.

[Alex]

Enormous number of employees at this company. And we're so very proud of our small but growing team here of skilled and editors and creatives and producers. Man, we are just rip roaring. We are going to have the biggest show by 2028. We want to have. We want to have the biggest show by 2028 election cycle. We want to be popping. We want to be able to do it all. And I'm not sure you can, but that's the goal. It's good to have nice, strong goals.

[Benny Johnson]

Every man should have a good, strong.

[Alex]

Goal that they're heading towards.

[Benny Johnson]

And we're going to need good talent to do that.

[Alex]

ZipRecruiter has provided us the capacity to find excellent talent. I think that actually Killer Klein was hired through ZipRecruiter for instance, every single day live on the feed with us.

[Benny Johnson]

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[Alex]

You should try it. We use it for every single position.

[Benny Johnson]

Except for Kangman, which was like, you've heard me talk about blackout coffee for a long time now.

[Alex]

And there's a reason for that.

[Benny Johnson]

It's not just about the coffee.

[Alex]

It's about what the company stands for.

[Pastor Doug Wilson]

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[Alex]

Grit the American dream.

[Benny Johnson]

A little over six years ago, Blackout.

[Alex]

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[Benny Johnson]

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[Alex]

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[Benny Johnson]

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[Alex]

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[Benny Johnson]

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[Alex]

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[Benny Johnson]

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[Alex]

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[Benny Johnson]

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[Alex]

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[Benny Johnson]

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[Alex]

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[Benny Johnson]

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[Alex]

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[Benny Johnson]

Okay, now can we finally do it? Can we, can we finally play some of the highlights from President Trump this morning?

[Alex]

Again, President Trump will be making a speech soon to the Middle Eastern, Middle Eastern countries and, and he is fresh off of his speech in the Knesset.

[Benny Johnson]

We also have a fantastic next guest up.

[Alex]

I'm just checking in with the producer team. Is Pastor Doug Wilson set? Locked in, ready to go. Okay, thank you guys. Want to make sure that we have ample time with the pastor as well.

[Benny Johnson]

To lead into that though, something that has just been clobbered this morning because.

[Alex]

There'S so much news.

[Benny Johnson]

Let's just do the super cut of President Trump's commentary to the Knesset here.

[Alex]

And Then we'll, we'll pop over to Pastor Doug Wilson right afterwards. Okay, here we go.

[Benny Johnson]

Here's a wrap up of Donald Trump letting the, letting it rip at the Knesset. The President of peace.

[Alex]

Here we go.

[Donald Trump]

This is not only the end of a war, this is the end of a age of terror and death and the beginning of the age of faith and hope and of God. It's the start of a grand concord and lasting harmony for Israel and all the nations of what will soon be a truly magnificent region. I believe that so strongly. This is the historic dawn of a new Middle East. More obvious than ever that the productive and responsible nations of this region should not be enemies or adversaries. You should be partners and eventually even friends. And that's what's going to happen. I know it. Together you can stand against the forces of chaos. Yeah, you go ahead. That's an important point because you can stand against the forces of chaos that threatened all of your interests. And it's always a big threat, always a big threat. And unleash incredible prosperity and opportunity for all the people of these lands. But when you settle eight wars in eight months, that means you don't like war. Everyone thought I was going to be brutal. In fact, I remember Hillary Clinton during a debate, she said, look at him, look at him. He's going to go to war with everybody. And actually, she said, he's got a personality that's all about war. No, my personality actually is all about stopping wars. And it seems to work.

[Benny Johnson]

Seems to work and rolling.

[Donald Trump]

But it also means this name change and our attitude that we're not going to go into a war, but if we do, we're going to win that war like nobody has ever won a war before. Choice for Palestinians could not be more clear. This is their chance to turn forever from the path of terror and violence. It's been extreme. To exile the wicked forces of hate that are in their midst. And I think that's going to happen. I've met some people over the last couple of months that want to see it happen very much. And after tremendous pain and death and hardship, now is the time to concentrate on building their people up instead of trying to tear Israel down. We don't want that to happen again. And the total focus of Gazans must be on restoring the fundamentals of stability, safety, dignity, and economic development so they can finally have the better life that their children really do deserve after all these decades of horror. I intend to be a partner in this effort in the sense that we're going to help. And we're going to do something that became unbelievably popular. Everybody wants to be on it. It's called the Board of Peace.

[Alex]

All right, the Board of Peace.

[Benny Johnson]

Ladies and gentlemen, President Trump bringing peace. President Trump knocking Hillary Clinton again. That was this morning as the hostages were all released. There are now no more human captives by Hamas and the Free Palestine. Free Palestine people. They're so damn silent. Where'd they go? Anyone could. Anybody. Like, where are you? Where'd you go? Where's the.

[Alex]

Where's the marches with all the orcs.

[Benny Johnson]

That have been chanting Free Palestine with their nose rings and their pink hair and their lack of deodorant showers? Like, where are you exactly? Where'd you go? Exactly? What happened to you? You'd assume that they'd be marching through the streets holding up giant signs of Donald Trump, saying, this is our dear leader. Like, wouldn't this be the time exactly. For those people, you know, Trump just, like, freed Palestine. Isn't that what you've been asking for? Like, they're like, they, like, they're going to get the land back. You've read the peace deal. Like, they released all the hostages. The hostages are back home. And, and now that they're gonna get the land back and, and they're gonna be free, right? Like, the war's over and the killing's done. Like, wasn't it. Isn't it the thing that you guys were all for?

[Alex]

Where.

[Benny Johnson]

Where are ya exactly? Where are all the libs and their little kiefas? Where's Greta Thunberg? Where is she? When is she gonna be sailing on, like, a giant yacht with, like, Trump's name on it? Like, praising Trump, dumping a bunch of.

[Alex]

Motor oil into the ocean while she.

[Benny Johnson]

Does it to go free Gaza. Didn't Trump just do that? I don't know. I don't know. Maybe somebody who's way smarter than me.

[Alex]

Maybe someone who's way smarter than me.

[Benny Johnson]

Who can talk about what it looks like to be part of the religion.

[Alex]

Of peace, the true religion of peace, Christianity.

[Benny Johnson]

Pastor Doug Wilson, who is the senior minister of Christchurch, who I learned about because he did this incredible interview with cnn where the CNN reporter Pamela Brown, she's just, like, gasping the whole time because Pastor Doug Wilson just straight up explained Christianity to her, right? And just, like, explained what Christianity is.

[Alex]

It's like, amazing.

[Benny Johnson]

And perhaps look, look at its expression.

[Alex]

When the, when, when, when your feminism.

[Benny Johnson]

Gets hit by Christianity for the first time, right? These conflicting world. The point is, is that Christianity is.

[Alex]

The Religion of freedom, liberty, peace.

[Benny Johnson]

What President Trump is doing is actually.

[Alex]

Totally and completely aligned with our Christian doctrine. I don't pretend to be an expert on that, but Pastor Doug Wilson is, and he joins our show.

[Benny Johnson]

Bye now. Forgive me, Pastor. I'm just such a fan of that CNN interview.

[Pastor Doug Wilson]

Thanks. That came out kind of nice.

[Benny Johnson]

Yeah, yeah. I would love to talk about it, but since we are talking peace in the Middle east right now, perhaps you could elucidate for us how Christianity is in fact the religion of peace and.

[Alex]

Freedom through the laws of God and.

[Benny Johnson]

Our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, and how. How President Trump is acting is acting in full alignment, actually, by delivering peace, Peace today.

[Pastor Doug Wilson]

Yeah. There's a difference between peace as an idol and peace as the result of adherence to truth, objective truth. If you try to, if you make peace an idol, then you're going to find yourself appeasing and accommodating and, you know, just trying to get people to go away and you're trying to buy them off. And all that does is breed more conflict. It breeds more war. If you stand for what is objectively right, what objectively has to happen, and your goal is peace, then what's going to happen is something like what we see here today in the Middle East. Now, there's an important distinction to make, and I believe that this peace deal is different than others. For this reason, if we zoom in, I would have preferred when the war started, I would have preferred for Hamas simply to have been annihilated. I wanted Hamas out of the picture because they're not dedicated to this process at all. But if you zoom out, the reason why I think this peace deal is more promising than other peace deals is that it appears that the President has enlisted the support of numerous Arab countries in the region that will keep the heat on radical groups. So the reason we've had perpetual conflict in the Middle east is because of secret supply lines that fund groups like Hamas and Hezbollah and that sort of thing, whether it's from a country like Iran or it's from misguided philanthropic organizations in the west, in Europe and the United States. Who kept the PLO alive for all those years?

[Killer Klein]

Who.

[Pastor Doug Wilson]

How is it possible for a terrorist organization to simply have unlimited funds? Where's that coming from? Well, if you cut the supply lines, if, if you say, okay, no more of that, and all the regional Arab countries are on board with a souped up Abraham Accords, right? Everybody, everybody's on board with this, then what, what is going to happen is the Palestinian, the free Palestine is not a free platform for launching rockets into Israel. Right. So the, so the danger of, hey, we, we just brokered a piece and everybody agreed to stop shooting, which we would only get from Israel if we, if the United States just pressured Israel to the nth degree, that's the only way we'd get that. Okay. They agreed to be. They agreed to continue have rockets being fired at them. Right. That is simply doing the same thing over and over again. But if you zoom out and you say, okay, we are committed to objective truth and our goal is peace, that is promising. And the objective truth is that if every, If Israel, excuse me, if the, If Hamas laid down their arms, there would be peace. If Israel laid down their arms, there would be a destroyed Israel. Right? That, that's the situation that it has been up to this point. So the only thing that is going to restrain groups like Hamas, keep them from growing or flourishing, is the objective strength of people who are saying, no more. No more of that. And what the President has apparently done is enlisted all the regional countries, probably Iran excepted, to keep things stable. And, and basically, this is very promising as. As can be seen by the release of the hostages.

[Benny Johnson]

Yeah, it's really been an interesting discovery.

[Alex]

For me as I've been working through.

[Benny Johnson]

What the scriptures actually say about the.

[Alex]

Role of government in, and how Christians.

[Benny Johnson]

Have been psyoped into thinking that it's our job to just roll over and let evil people do whatever they want. And that's actually. That's actually fundamentally antithetical to the scriptures and to the New Testament and to the work of Christ. And there's some. There's something horrible that's happened to the Christian church where it's just like, just get rid of any of your ability to fight, any of your ability to stand for truth, become weaklings, become limp and become flat, like, incapable of fighting back. And you look at Romans 13, Pastor, and it's like, no, actually, the government is instituted by God. God gives them the sword. The sword is there for terror of evil people. And that is the role of the government is to protect good and to do terrorism to evil, to, To.

[Pastor Doug Wilson]

To.

[Benny Johnson]

So that evil lives in fear. And I, I know that I, I love seeing that as a, As a point of strength. I think the Trump administration is really taking that, that Christian doctrine and that Christian structure of government and actually applying it. And I know that that's happening in the. With the Secretary of War. Right, I know that. I know. I believe that he's a member of your church.

[Pastor Doug Wilson]

Yeah, he's the. He belongs to a church in our denomination. Yes.

[Benny Johnson]

Yeah. And I love seeing that apply because that creates actually a more peaceful world, in fact, and always has in Christendom.

[Pastor Doug Wilson]

Yes. There's a distinct difference between on a personal level, turning a soft answer turns away wrath, as Proverbs says, or to turn the other cheek, as the Lord says. There are situations that actually call for that. But that's different than standing by when you're a magistrate, let's say, and someone under your authority is attacking someone else. Right, right. What's the, Is it the magistrate's job to tell the victim to turn the other cheek? No, that's not his job. So in Romans 13, God gives the sword to the magistrate to reward the righteous and punish the wrongdoer. Now, and right and wrong are defined by scripture, not by the lusts and desires of the magistrate. So in fact, several times in that passage, the magistrate is called God's deacon, God's servant. So God's servant is appointed by God to punish the wrongdoer. So when someone is mugged or attacked or there's some violent outbreak, it's not the magistrate's job to tell the victim to turn the other cheek. Now it may be in a personal situation, the task of a believer. You know, when Christians were being thrown to the lions, it was not that Christians had no political power, no military power. And in times of persecution like that, it is our calling and task to simply suffer patiently and trust God for the long range outcome. That is true. But if you are a magistrate who has the power to stop something like that and you refuse to do it, then God's going to hold you accountable for that.

[Alex]

Like, like we shouldn't suffer terrorist networks on our borders.

[Pastor Doug Wilson]

No.

[Alex]

Right.

[Benny Johnson]

Like, like I don't think that Israel should be forced to suffer a terrorist network that shares a border with them. And right now there's, there's cartels in Mexico that have, have gladly visited terrorism upon our people in this land. We shouldn't suffer that. Right. Like the Right. Can you talk me through, Pastor, the Christian doctrine that says we shouldn't be letting somebody out who's been arrested 30 times for violent crimes to go stab a poor woman on a bus and kill her. Like, that's actually antithetical to Christianity. Can you, can you, can you walk? Can you talk me through that, please?

[Pastor Doug Wilson]

That's a photo negative of the way it ought to be. And so the way I talk you through it is in the, in the Bible, originally you didn't have chapter and Verse markings. So it was like the letter to the Romans was one long sustained epistle. If you read Romans chapter 12, there's a long stretch of it where Paul is sounding very much like the Sermon on the Mount. Bless those who persecute you. Do not reward evil for evil. Do not take vengeance, not because vengeance is wrong, but because vengeance is mine, saith the Lord. So don't take personal vengeance at the end of chapter 12, because God says, vengeance is mine. That's. That's my job. And then you go into Romans 13. Well, how does God exercise vengeance? So if someone, if there's a horrific crime, you don't go home and get your gun and go as a vigilante and try to take care of it yourself. What you do is you leave room for God's wrath. Step aside for God's wrath, Paul says. And then in the next, very next verse, in Romans 13, very next passage, he says, God's agent of wrath is the magistrate. God appoints the authorities as his deacons to punish the wrongdoer and reward the righteous. So consequently, the fact that lunatic was able to stab that poor girl on the train was because the magistrate was derelict. The system of justice, the police force, et cetera, that was derelict. Now, I know that someone complained about the policing in that situation, and the police had a legitimate comeback. They said, what do you mean? We arrested that guy multiple times. It's not. This is not the policing system. This is the judicial system and the, and the, the elected officials that put up with that kind of monstrosity. So it was the duty of the magistrate to have that man either in, out of. Out of the public so he couldn't hurt anybody, or executed, which is another way of removing him from a hazardous position. I don't know what his priors were, but basically he needed to be out of commission. He needed to be not in a position to do that. And a government that doesn't live up to its responsibilities, there is a wicked government, it says in Ecclesiastes, where justice is not speedily executed upon the criminal. There the heart of man is filled to do evil. Okay, so deterrence works. The Bible requires the magistrate to function in terms of deterrence, with a standard of right and wrong established by God's word and not by humanist hallucinations.

[Benny Johnson]

So let's talk about those humanist hallucinations versus what law and order in an actual orderly society would look like. So this is why it's so important.

[Alex]

To understand and to live out our Christian roots as a nation. Is it not like what, you know.

[Benny Johnson]

We often use the John Adams quote, that this entire nation was conceived just.

[Alex]

For a moral, for a moral and.

[Benny Johnson]

Religious people, and it is unsuitable for any other, any other population. Obviously you get hit constantly for being an advocate for Christian nationalism.

[Alex]

So does our show.

[Benny Johnson]

So, so did Charlie Kirk. And yet if you actually look at the foundations of this country and the only way that it, that it properly operates and where the institutions come from, they are from the tradition of Christendom. Could you perhaps, could you, could you elucidate for us?

[Pastor Doug Wilson]

Correct there, there are basic, certain basic worldviews, only maybe 7 total possible worldviews among men. And they don't all generate the same ethical systems, but different religions, different worldviews, value different things. Islam does not generate the same kind of ethical system that Christianity does. It does not generate the same kind of ethical system that secular materialism does, and so forth. Now it means you should not, if that being the case, if you take million, hundreds of thousands and millions of people from one ethicals, one region of the world that, that taps into one of these ethical systems and drop them into the United States where there is a different ethical system, a different tradition of law and so forth, all you're going to have is trouble. All you're going to have is societal chaos. And the fact that it appears clear to me that a bunch of this chaos is deliberate. In other words, it's being fomented in order to have a transition away from our Christian roots, away from our Christian foundation. And the process by which this happens is anarcho tyranny, Right? So anarcho tyranny is where the lawless criminal thugs are given free reign, slaps on the wrist turned back into the public. Like functional anarchy, where the most dangerous, unstable people are allowed to operate with impunity, largely impunity. And if a law abiding person defends himself or fights back in any way, or even criticizes what's going on, they land on him like a ton of bricks. They know how to enforce the law, right? But they've got a different law in mind. So in the uk, if you're running a Pakistani rape gang, all right, then you get a buy. But if you criticize, if you go onto Facebook and criticize Pakistani rape gangs, you might be facing five years in jail. So they come after you with a vengeance. And this is selective anarchy, selective tyranny. And the whole thing appears to me to be a very deliberate attempt to destabilize our civilization. And so consequently our job, I believe Our task as Christians is to stand up for the West. Simply.

[Benny Johnson]

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[Pastor Doug Wilson]

We've had the traditions that we have and the protections that we have and the rights that we have for a reason. Now, I want to be critical of our, our society as well, because we've largely forgotten those reasons. We've been sort of coasting. It's like the prodigal son didn't run out of money the first weekend away from home. He took this large inheritance and he went off and spent it. But that took a while. So we have had in the West a large amount of moral capital that we inherited from the first Christendom. We had a lot of moral capital, and we have been on a binge. We've been, we've been spending it like there's no tomorrow. And we've gotten to the point where, like the prodigal son, we're staring at the pig food, we're saying, man, that looks kind of good. We, we don't know what's up or down anymore. We are so confused. It is. We've been pitched into the void. We have a justice sitting on the Supreme Court who was asked during her confirmation hearings, hearings, what a woman was. And she couldn't answer the question because she was not a biologist. But if you don't know what a woman is, you don't know what a human being is. And if you don't know what a human being is, you don't know what human rights are. And that means we have someone on the Supreme Court who has no idea of what humanity is. No idea. And you might say, well, she has an idea. According to the secular assumption, humanity is an amorphous blob like Mr. Potato Head that you can stick different parts on and come up with your own, come up with your own invention. But that's not what humanity is. Because God says in Genesis that God created us in his image. Male and female created he them. That's. That's what a human being is. We bear the image of God. And we know, we've known this for thousands of years. But those who want to reject that in favor of secular atheism want to deny the image of God in man. And that's what they're trying to deface the image of God and man. They're trying to scratch it out, they're trying to erase it. Another illustration I use is, let's say there's a king on a castle, a just and holy and righteous king. He lives in a castle, and he's got a strong army, but the villagers down in the valley hate him. Well, they can't attack him. They can't overthrow his castle up there in heaven, but they're down in the valley and they don't like him and they hate him. What can they do? Well, they can get. They can make an image of him and they can burn the image in effigy. And that's what this whole sexual revolution has been an attempt to scratch out, deface, burn the image of God and man. That because we can't get at him, we can't attack heaven, but we can attack his image. We can burn him in effigy.

[Benny Johnson]

And so it must be wholesale rejected, it feels like. Pastor, there's been good work that's been done. What is your assessment of the state of America right now? I would say post Charlie Kirk's assassination.

[Alex]

We'Ve seen some of God's wonders. I believe we also saw some of God's wonders with President Trump surviving an assassin's bullet.

[Benny Johnson]

But it seems like we are sort of on a razor's edge where things.

[Alex]

Could go really right or things could go really wrong.

[Pastor Doug Wilson]

That is correct. If you try to remember the way we were feeling just this time last year, just go back one year. The election had not yet happened. We were sort of on pins and needles. Are they going to cheat again? Are they going to pull something out of their hat again? What's going to happen? And you look at where we were then and you look at where we are now, God has been supremely kind to us. That doesn't mean that it's all over. It doesn't mean that we don't have work to do. We have a lot of work to do. But we are in a far, far better position than we were this time last year. And that includes God sparing the president's life at Butler, and it includes God calling Charlie home the way he did. Because one of the things about that assassination, that grotesque murder, is that it took the mask off. Right? Everybody could see in stark relief what we are up against. And that's why it is so. Just as an aside, it is dismaying to see conspiracy theories cropping up about that assassination. As I just wrote in my blog post this morning, it's as though Pearl harbor happened and the whole country rallies ready to go to war with Japan and somebody, an influencer, suggests that maybe Canada did it. You know, how hard would it be to paint a big red dot on Canadian airplanes and attack Pearl Harbor? Well, there's no way to interpret that other than to say you're muddy. At the very best interpretation, you're muddying the waters. We America saw how demented and hate filled the left is, right? They, they don't, they don't disavow violence because violence is at the heart of their system. And that's why, going back to your earlier question, Christian faith is peaceful. Christ is the prince of peace. Now, that means that when conflict happens, because it's sometimes necessary for it to happen, the goal of the conflict is peace. Right? The goal of leftist violence is to vent the hatred. And this is why you saw in Virginia, in the debate between win some Sears and her opponent, can you just denounce this murderous thinking that was expressed by this fellow running for AG and silence. Silence. They can't disavow hate fueled, hate filled violence because that's the gasoline they run on.

[Benny Johnson]

I mean, at what point then do we have a broken society? Because you can't unite. It is immoral to unite with evil.

[Alex]

Of course.

[Benny Johnson]

You can't make peace with people who want you dead, Pastor.

[Pastor Doug Wilson]

Right.

[Benny Johnson]

So then what are we left with.

[Alex]

As Christians in this nation?

[Pastor Doug Wilson]

Okay, so my dad wrote a book called Principles of War and not Methods of War, but he was applying principles of warfare to evangelism and spiritual conflict. Conflict and principles of war would be things like mobility, mobility, surprise, objective, concentration, so forth. One of the principles is communication, which includes supply lines. When Napoleon invaded Russia, he overextended his supply lines and that's why he had that ignominious retreat. One of the fundamental things that's going on here is we have to realize as conservatives that we've been funding our own efforts and we've also been funding the efforts of the other team. We are the supply corps for both sides of our conflict, as was revealed by the USAID controversy in the early doge days of the Trump administration. So what we need to do, and this is what I think the President has done in the Middle east, is cutting supply lines. If you cut this, if you cut the support that Hamas has, a lot of this Dries up and goes away. If the antifa, if the antifa types have no supplies coming from the outside, no Soros money, no surreptitious dropping off of pallets of bricks before the riot, none of that stuff. If you don't pay your astroturfing protesters, if you don't pay them, what kind of turnout are you going to get? All. So basically, I think that we are going to be in a position if over the next year or two, a diligent effort is made to cut the supply lines. We're going to see how robust their support actually is. A lot, A lot of this has to do with the blinkered complacence of conservatives who've just taken at face value the image that the left has projected of itself and that has been funded from outside. So we, I think that our, our big, Our big goal should be to think funding, funding, funding. Who's paying for this?

[Benny Johnson]

I want to ask a final question here because you're so right.

[Alex]

Christians, often through total complacency or through.

[Benny Johnson]

Shame, psyops, through cultural pressure, major pastors refuse to talk about good versus evil. Major pastors can't talk about issues like gay marriage or abortion. It's not that they can't. They just refuse, right? They, they refuse to talk about God made them male and female. They refuse to talk about the first verse of Genesis. The first command of God to man is, go be fruitful and multiply.

[Alex]

Right?

[Benny Johnson]

There's a first command. Like the first command wasn't the Ten Commandments. It was, it was that, right, I'm gonna make men and women and then go be fruitful and multiply.

[Alex]

Bring the earth under a minute.

[Pastor Doug Wilson]

Go make babies.

[Benny Johnson]

Yes, go make babies. Exactly right. And so it's. It is, you know, I just. Why, why have Christians become so weak? How can we reform? I believe that we could really reform the nation through the pulpit. Quite frankly, we still live in a majority Christian nation, not by a little, but by a lot. And I think that there's still hope in the, in pastors reconnecting with actual Christianity and, and that revival spirit that I think everyone still feels. There's still like sort of this kinetic energy out there.

[Alex]

You know, how do we. How do we turn. How do we.

[Benny Johnson]

How do we turn the cowards of Christianity, you know, around into really speaking.

[Alex]

Truth once again from the Scriptures?

[Pastor Doug Wilson]

So over the last, over the course of my lifetime at least, the Overton window, the window that defines acceptable discourse in any society, has gradually been slipping left, sliding left gradually. So for Example, I'm considered a hater because my view of marriage, one man, one woman, and that's it, right, that's, that's the biblical definition of marriage. Because my definition of marriage is identical to the position that Obama took and Hillary took in their runs for President. Right.

[Benny Johnson]

In 20 2008. Yeah. So you're talking, you're talking less than, yeah, less than about a decade ago. Yeah.

[Pastor Doug Wilson]

Right. So the, let the, and everybody, the reason, the reason they got a pass on that is because everybody knew they were lying. Right. But the, the window has steadily moved left, right. And so consequently the most radical extreme right wingers are moderates who never moved. Okay. And that, that's what's happened now. The events of the last five years, Covid, the lockdowns, vaccine mandates every major institution in American public life disgracing itself, blue state governors. It's just total chaos. Everything's up in the air. And then culminating in events which is reflected in the re election of Donald Trump and in the convulsive activity that includes things like the assassination of Charlie Kirk as a result of the last five years. The Overton Window is farther to the right than it's ever been in my lifetime. And that means we have an opportunity to talk. The Overton Window simply allows you to talk. Right. What can you say without getting hooted off the stage? Right. And those Christian pastors and theologians and writers who know what the truth is, as the saying goes, who know what time it is, should use this opportunity to speak up. Because there are a lot of, there are a lot of people who have been. Their instincts are good, but they're not educated, they're not equipped, and they need to hear truth, which will hit them like a bracing mountain air.

[Alex]

They're such a starvation for truth right now.

[Benny Johnson]

There's such a starvation. And I know that you've seen this.

[Alex]

In the explosive growth of your church, right? I mean, you've had, you've, you now have just this massive growth in, in, in the.

[Benny Johnson]

Christ. In the Christ Church. What is it a thousand different?

[Alex]

Is it a thousand different?

[Pastor Doug Wilson]

Well, well, no, it's not that. Not many churches, there's about 170 total works that we have. But in Moscow here, we have basically doubled in size.

[Benny Johnson]

Sorry, Moscow, Idaho, we, we have, trust me, we have very special people that watch the show every day. We're in Moscow, Idaho.

[Pastor Doug Wilson]

Now, a generation ago there, it was a very blue dot, meaning that there were probably more than a few sympathizers with the other Moscow here. But as the Growth of the church here has gradually been turning this town purple in the opposite direction, going from blue to red. And there are thousands of us here, about 10% of the population. And a lot of this simply has to do with normal people waking up. I believe that the shine has gone off of progressive leftism. I believe that for anybody who's got a normal, stable life and something to defend, a home, a job, a vocation, we need to articulate what it is, what it's going to take to defend that sort of thing.

[Alex]

Yes, yes.

[Benny Johnson]

I just find this with young people all the time. Pastor, I'm telling you, we were at a tailgate. We were at a tailgate. We did a turning point event at a tailgate two weeks ago, and there's thousands of young men lined up and they were all in frats and like they should have been chasing skirt and running after the cheerleaders and doing keg stands. They were there to talk about Jesus Christ.

[Alex]

Right.

[Benny Johnson]

At 8:00am in a parking lot right in, in front of, in front of the Penn State Beaver Stadium. This holds like a hundred thousand people. And that's what, that's what those young frat boys were there to talk about. Right?

[Pastor Doug Wilson]

And that's.

[Benny Johnson]

What is that? That's wild and awesome.

[Pastor Doug Wilson]

Actually, that was the Charlie insight. Charlie saw that a lost generation, ultimately at the bottom line, doesn't like being lost. Right. Living when you're 21 years old. Nihilism for most people is for the birds. You just don't. You just don't want it. And so the established birds, big EVA approach of moderate, let's try to be winsome. Let's never argue a specific point of view. All that did was feed the nihilism, feed the hopelessness. And Charlie understood that young people need answers. And so Chesterton once said, the purpose of an open mind is the same as the purpose of an open mouth. It's meant to close on something thing. All right, so what Charlie did was he argued for a specific point of view. He assumed the reality of objective truth. And he discovered this vast untapped reservoir of genuine seekers who want to know the truth. They want their lives to mean something. They want to be more than a bit of protoplasm. Right? And yet the received wisdom of our age reduces people to just that. Meat, bones and protoplasm. All you are is a moist robot.

[Alex]

Yeah. And your life, your life doesn't matter.

[Benny Johnson]

And it's all by accident. And that's like. And there's nothing left for you at the end of it. So you might as well be on.

[Alex]

The yacht in Ibiza with as much crypto as possible and have no relationships and nothing and die alone. Right?

[Benny Johnson]

And that's the promise. And it's like being even is being rejected, Pastor, by the people who, like some of the, like Dan Bilzerian, some of the biggest influencers that live that life are now, like, coming to their senses and doing, Doing interviews. Like that was all a lie, actually. Materialism was all a lie.

[Pastor Doug Wilson]

Yeah.

[Benny Johnson]

And now I'm scared of dying alone because now I'm 55.

[Alex]

And.

[Benny Johnson]

And, and it's not true, by the way. It's like not true. The richest man on earth, arguably probably the richest man to ever exist, Elon Musk. All he wants is children. All he wants is people to have more children. That's the point of life. The guy, the guy could have anything, including potentially the first house on Mars. And they had. The actual purpose of his being is like, we should have more babies. Like, you should become a father, you.

[Alex]

Should become a mother.

[Benny Johnson]

Like, take it from the guy that has literally everything, including space travel, right?

[Pastor Doug Wilson]

And then, then when you, when you inculcate this sort of sanctified or prissied up nihilism and you foisted on a young generation, some of them will go all in and they'll open open fire at this in the school cafeteria, Right?

[Alex]

Yeah.

[Pastor Doug Wilson]

And we say, and then we say, oh, what happened? What went wrong? Nothing went wrong. They followed your argument. Others of them are dissatisfied with that and they are hungry and they turn up, turn out to your event at Penn State. So what you have is people are divided. People are dividing up. And I think of the. The great quote from the Abolition of Man by C.S. lewis. He said, we laugh at honor and are shocked to find traitors in our midst. We. We castrate and bid the geldings to be fruitful. We remove the organ and demand the function. You cannot cut down all the apple trees and then wonder where the apple pie went. You just simply can't do that. And so consequently, the task before us right now to these hungry young people is to preach the gospel. Christ died. He was buried. He rose again from the dead. He ascended into heaven and he cares. And how we're living our lives now.

[Alex]

Yes, yes.

[Benny Johnson]

And God created you with a purpose. God doesn't need you. He created you for a reason. Like God doesn't need a Benny. He doesn't need a Doug Wilson. He didn't need a Charlie Kirk. He created a Charlie Kirk and a Donald Trump. For a specific purpose. Your life has a purpose. Your pursuit of that purpose gives you meaning. And foundationally, if you do it through Christ's plan, getting married, having children, having meaning in life, bringing more souls into existence, then you reconnect with what God actually has planned for you, which is that you are a spiritual being far.

[Alex]

More than a physical being.

[Pastor Doug Wilson]

Absolutely right. All human meaning, all human value requires a transcendental grounding.

[Alex]

Yes.

[Pastor Doug Wilson]

Meaning comes from outside the world.

[Alex]

Yes.

[Benny Johnson]

Man. Pastor, I was, I was super, I was very, I was very nihilist. And you know, I, you know, it's just, is what it is. And you know, I got married and, and it was great. And then I had my first kid. You know, like you, you welcome your first child to the world and it is like literal and the angels sing. And it's just for you, by the way, it's just a miracle for you. It's like a specific miracle just for.

[Alex]

You as a father.

[Benny Johnson]

And you hold that baby for the.

[Alex]

First time and you just, you just.

[Benny Johnson]

There's no way to describe it.

[Alex]

You just.

[Benny Johnson]

The washes of emotion over overcome you no matter who you are. Like the strongest, most, the strongest, meanest men on earth like are reduced to.

[Alex]

Blubbering tears when they hold their firstborn newborn child or any child, you know.

[Benny Johnson]

Any of their children. It's happened to every single child of mine. I have four kids and it's like I would never have that experience that came so much closer to God actually having that experience. And then every day I come home to those little babies and it gives.

[Alex]

Me so much purpose in life and so much connectivity.

[Pastor Doug Wilson]

There's a great anti communist classic book, a great conservative book called Witness by Whitaker Chambers.

[Alex]

Yeah.

[Pastor Doug Wilson]

Who was a, who was a Soviet spy and he worked with Alger Hiss. And that's how Richard Nixon first made his name, going after Alger Hiss. Well, in chambers book Witness, he was a communist atheist all in. And his conversion began with staring at his young daughter's ear. Yeah. So yeah, he was, you know, where did this come from? All of a sudden? Life is not what I thought it was.

[Alex]

Right.

[Benny Johnson]

That. And then men need to see that. Like men need that. And so yeah, that's why in our own poor capacity we understand like that that is the missing gap.

[Alex]

And that Charlie really did, really did get that. And so it's, it's exciting, it's an.

[Benny Johnson]

Exciting moment to be a Christian.

[Alex]

It's exciting moment to be locked in as a, you know, as a country and in the faith. And I think that we're going to see God's wonders here, and we're already seeing them.

[Pastor Doug Wilson]

Absolutely.

[Benny Johnson]

It'll be something fun to fight alongside you with Pastor.

[Alex]

Pastor Doug Wilson.

[Benny Johnson]

Here.

[Alex]

You can.

[Benny Johnson]

Here's his website.

[Alex]

You can also follow. Follow the pastor on.

[Benny Johnson]

On X. You have an X? No.

[Pastor Doug Wilson]

Did my producers miss that?

[Benny Johnson]

Do you. Okay. Did my producers miss that? All right, boys, find the. Fine.

[Alex]

Find Pastor Doug Wilson's X account, please. Here's his website, though, the blog and Mad blog.

[Pastor Doug Wilson]

All right. Yeah.

[Alex]

Sweet.

[Benny Johnson]

And you can follow.

[Alex]

Pastor Doug Wilson is the senior minister of Christ Church, famously attended by our Secretary of War. And it's. And, and. And the. The pastor is also the leading trigger for all CNN anchors. I cannot encourage you enough to go watch his interview with cnn, which is.

[Benny Johnson]

Which is great. Thank you very much, Pastor.

[Alex]

Thank you.

[Pastor Doug Wilson]

Yeah. Appreciate the invitation.

[Alex]

All right. God bless you.

[Benny Johnson]

We're too late. Alx. A very, very rare miss for Alx. Get that exit count up. Get that ex. Account up. I want to make sure the passer that we.

[Alex]

Make sure that people can follow him on X. Let's go. I was just sent. President Trump is. There it is Pastor Doug Wilson right there.

[Benny Johnson]

Moscow, Idaho.

[Alex]

Okay. Moscow, Idaho.

[Benny Johnson]

All right.

[Alex]

Get it. Got that.

[Benny Johnson]

Media Matters.

[Alex]

Moscow, Idaho, whatever.

[Benny Johnson]

Okay, great.

[Alex]

Ladies and gentlemen, President Trump is right now taking photos in a photo line with world leaders. He had some funny photos with Manuel Macron. He, like completely bodied Macron. It was really funny. And now it looks like perhaps Trump will be taking, like, a large group photo. Maybe. Here he is in front of this massive banner of peace. Look at this. Here comes all the leaders. All the leaders will now come in and stand with President Trump. We caught it just in time.

[Benny Johnson]

Look at that.

[Alex]

Perfect. There's going to be a couple dozen Arab leaders there, European leaders represented. I know that we've seen Emmanuel Macron, the French leader, and. Yeah, here we go. Okay, here we go. This is Donald Trump right in the. Right in the center. And you can see everybody gathering around. We don't have a list of all the nations, an authoritative list of all the nations represented, but I can see Giorgio Maloney there from Italy. Obviously, France represented kind of a long. It looks. There's the Jordanian leader. Yep. All right, here we go. The full list. Goodness gracious. We have the leaders of.

[Benny Johnson]

Egypt.

[Alex]

Turkey, Qatar, Jordan, Kuwait, Bahrain, Palestinian President, Indonesian Azerbaijan, French President, German Chancellor, British Prime Minister. Goodness. Italian Prime Minister, Spanish Prime Minister. Holy smokes. Greek Prime Minister, Armenian Prime Minister, Hungarian Viktor Orban. He's a total G. Pakistani Prime Minister, Canadian Norwegian, Iraqi, uae, United Arab Emirates, Oman, Indian External Affairs Minister, Japan's Ambassador to Egypt and goodness. And some other people. UN Secretary General, European Council President and Arab Leagued Secretary. Holy smokes. That is the full list there. Gracious goodness, there's Donald Trump.

[Benny Johnson]

Can we hear anything?

[Alex]

Can we hear Trump?

[Donald Trump]

Thank you very much.

[Alex]

There he goes.

[Benny Johnson]

Trump is rolling all the world leaders. I don't know how he does it.

[Steve Hilton]

Daniel, happy Thanksgiving.

[Alex]

Just such a Happy Thanksgiving. Cool. I guess. All right, ladies and gentlemen, very interesting timing. Alx is trying to sort out when he gives his. When does Trump give his speech? Because we do have a busy day here and we're going to. I mean, guys, I'm just gonna have to get. Just gonna have to get locked in as to where do we want to go from here. Okay? So as my producer team checks in.

[Benny Johnson]

With their caffeine, let me tell you about my caffeine. Our blackout coffee in the unfortunately empty cup. As I have plowed through an entire.

[Alex]

Pot of coffee this morning, again, I'm.

[Benny Johnson]

Fighting a little bug here.

[Alex]

So I just wanna, you know, caffeine is wildly important in those moments kind.

[Benny Johnson]

Of, you know what, when you have, like, little kids, they're licking every doorknob, they're licking the welcome mat at Walmart. They are vectors for every virus or.

[Alex]

Every bacteria in the world. It just is what it is. I love my children so much.

[Benny Johnson]

We just talked about with pastor about.

[Alex]

Like, you know, how precious and angelic my children are, but that's just the.

[Benny Johnson]

That's just the nature of the kids. Then they bring home something and then you get it and you're like, ah, ah, I gotta have my caffeine. You're like, dragging in the morning. I gotta have my caffeine.

[Alex]

Ladies and gentlemen, blackout coffee is my.

[Benny Johnson]

Caffeine for days like today.

[Alex]

Now, I don't know if Trump drinks coffee. I know he drinks a lot of caffeine in the form of soft drinks, but my caffeine does not come from coffee. My caffeine comes from the black roasted.

[Benny Johnson]

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[Alex]

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[Benny Johnson]

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[Alex]

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[Benny Johnson]

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[Alex]

It's small batch and it is the best coffee out there. I drink it every single morning. Especially on mornings like today, where, boy howdy, we just.

[Benny Johnson]

We're just trying to make it through, right?

[Alex]

Yeah. You know, those days, if you believe.

[Benny Johnson]

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[Alex]

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[Benny Johnson]

Okay, ladies and gentlemen.

[Alex]

Okay.

[Benny Johnson]

The production team is trying to figure out what the Thanksgiving thing. Happy Thanksgiving. Is it Canadian Thanksgiving?

[Alex]

That's what everyone's saying.

[Benny Johnson]

We don't know.

[Alex]

President Trump is supposed to make a speech here in Egypt.

[Benny Johnson]

I'd hate to miss it, but I don't know if it's gonna be another three hours. So I'm like begging the team to maybe figure that out. I don't know. Like, I'm not sure we have more fun stuff to talk about.

[Alex]

Obviously there was a little bit of.

[Killer Klein]

A.

[Benny Johnson]

Flame war that went on on ABC News.

[Alex]

One of our favorite little targets, abc. What a disaster of a network.

[Benny Johnson]

Disney owned ABC News cut off JD.

[Alex]

Vance because they got all pissy that JD Vance was making a great point on their program.

[Benny Johnson]

And so they cut to commercial break. ABC News was trying to push a.

[Alex]

New hoax and JD Wasn't having any of it. It is definitely the clip of the weekend this went insanely viral.

[Benny Johnson]

ABC News is publicly funded, right? They get all these lavish goodies from the taxpayer. You'd think they'd show a little respect.

[Alex]

Check this out. This is. This clip really pissed me off.

[George Stephanopoulos]

Here's George. Why fewer and fewer people watch your program and why you're losing credibility because you're talking for now five minutes with the Vice President United States about this story regarding Tom Homan, a story that I've read about, but I don't even know the video that you're talking about. Meanwhile, low income women can't get food because the Democrats and Chuck Schumer have shut down the government. Right now we're trying to figure out how to pay our troops because Chuck Schumer has shut down the government. You are focused on a bogus story. You're insinuating criminal wrongdoing against a guy who has done nothing wrong. Instead of focusing on the fact that our country is struggling because our government shut down. Let's talk about the real issues, George. I think the American people would benefit much more from that than from you going down some weird left wing rabbit hole where the facts clearly show that Tom Homan didn't engage in any criminal wrongdoing.

[Donald Trump]

It's not a weird left wing rabbit hole. I didn't insinuate anything. I asked you whether Tom Holman accepted $50,000. As was heard on an audio tape recorded by the FBI in September 2024 and you did not answer the question. Thank you for your time this morning.

[George Stephanopoulos]

No, I said that.

[Pastor Doug Wilson]

I don't.

[Donald Trump]

Up next, we'll be right back.

[Benny Johnson]

What a little girl.

[Alex]

George Stephanopoulos is little. By the way, how tall is George Stephanopoulos?

[Benny Johnson]

And by the way, alx, that clip didn't include Stephanopoulos. We have to have the Stephanopoulos question. Right.

[Alex]

Sort of like show the answer.

[Benny Johnson]

Right. So let's make sure that we get.

[Alex]

The actual question in there. How tall is George Stephanopoulos?

[Benny Johnson]

He's 5ft 5.

[Alex]

My wife is taller than him. Yikes. Yeah. Now the production chat's sounding off. Klein's girlfriend's taller than him. Boy, yeah. He is a teeny little man.

[Benny Johnson]

George Stephanopoulos.

[Alex]

Oh, boy, that is embarrassing. Yikes. Look at that.

[Benny Johnson]

George Stephanopoulos is.

[Alex]

And was Bill Clinton's actual hatchet man. What do I mean by that? He was the. He was the press secretary for Bill Clinton.

[Benny Johnson]

Oh, that's a good one. Leave that one up. That's perfect. So let's do a. Just a real quick takedown breakdown of.

[Alex]

George Sloppadopoulos, as President Trump calls him.

[Benny Johnson]

This guy was the hatchet man for Bill Clinton. He was the press secretary for Bill Clinton.

[Alex]

He did operations for Bill Clinton.

[Benny Johnson]

Like, press operate like he was. He was the guy, the cleanup guy that they called in at the White House in order to attack the press, in order to bully and badger and to get Clinton's agenda right voiced in the media. This guy is a total and complete bag man for the Democrat Party.

[Steve Hilton]

That's what he did.

[Alex]

That's how we already made his bones.

[Benny Johnson]

He has been hired, not by msnbc, but which I don't even have a problem with MSNBC hiring Jen Psaki. Kayleigh McEnany, we were on her show this weekend. Kayleigh McEnany was hired by Fox News. Okay. Is what it is. All right. I don't have a problem with people getting jobs in media. It's that they are trying to say that George Stephanopoulos is totally and completely nonpartisan, independent, and not biased in any way, which is an absurdity given his background. Of course, Kayleigh McEnany, who worked for Donald Trump, is going to have some allegiance to Donald Trump.

[Alex]

I mean, she freaking worked for him.

[Benny Johnson]

As the press secretary. Love Kayleigh McEnany, but like the fact that they trot out George Stephanopoulos as this, like, impartial juror of newsworthiness, at least to a lot of problems for ABC. Like, for instance, how ABC News had to pay $15 million. We have that article. ABC News had to pay $15,000,000 to Donald Trump to fund Donald Trump's presidential library because George Stephanopoulos told lies about Donald Trump, said he was a rapist.

[Alex]

Donald Trump, of course, was never, was never convicted of ra. This is what they've done. So it's very costly to have frauds like this in your newsroom.

[Benny Johnson]

And it's obviously, like, antithetical to human nature.

[Alex]

The guy worked for Bill Clinton, so it's embarrassing.

[Benny Johnson]

He did the exact same thing, by.

[Alex]

The way, in 2024. He cut off J.D. vance. And it's total. You know, look, again, he's just a fraud and he's just a Democrat. Partisan hack. Here we go by.

[Donald Trump]

By legitimate Supreme Court rulings, doesn't it?

[George Stephanopoulos]

The Constitution says that the Supreme Court can make rulings, but if the Supreme Court. And look, I hope that they would not do this, but if the Supreme Court said that the President of the United States can't fire a general, that would be an illegitimate ruling. And the President has to have Article 2 prerogative under the Constitution to actually run the military as he sees fit. This is just basic constitutional legitimacy. You're talking about a hypothetical where the Supreme Court tries to run the military. I don't think that's going to happen, George. But of course, if it did, the President would have to respond to it. There are multiple examples throughout American history of the President doing just that.

[Donald Trump]

You didn't say military in your answer, and you've made it very clear you believe the President can defy the Supreme Court. Senator, thanks for your time this morning.

[George Stephanopoulos]

No, no, no, no.

[Donald Trump]

Jordan's up next.

[George Stephanopoulos]

We'll be right back.

[Alex]

What a scumbag.

[Benny Johnson]

Pull ABC News's broadcast license. Let them go hack it out.

[Alex]

Like, pull their broadcast license.

[Benny Johnson]

Let them go fight it out with msnbc. Like, let it like. Again, you have to understand, and we've.

[Alex]

Done so much research on this, this is how we know all the pressure points, right? When Jimmy Kimmel does stuff like, this.

[Benny Johnson]

Is why we're so effective at getting Jimmy Kimmel ripped off air.

[Alex]

And it was really fun. I'll look back fondly on that for a long time.

[Benny Johnson]

We know the pressure points. The pressure point is that ABC News has a FCC broadcast license. This is a federally granted broadcast license that gives ABC News free use of American infrastructure provided by the US Government in order to broadcast news in the public interest. Does those two clips seem like the public interest to you? Cutting off the vice President, insulting him Cutting his mic. No, I mean it's propaganda. They're paying for it, obviously, but we shouldn't have to pay for it. As taxpayers, they should rip the licenses.

[Alex]

Away from these organizations. ABC News, NBC News.

[Benny Johnson]

Like either either be fair and broadcast in the public.

[Alex]

Interest, which is in your charter, or.

[Benny Johnson]

We as America, as Americans need to stop funding it. All right, ladies and gentlemen, my team.

[Alex]

Is telling me that there is just, there is just no that they don't. It might be hours before we get to the actual President Trump speech, unfortunately. And so we don't know exactly what's going on next.

[Benny Johnson]

They're four or five hours behind schedule.

[Alex]

So, so we're not sure what happens next, but we're going to, we're going to obviously not be able to carry on for the next two or three hours. We got a, yeah, last pool update. There's like no pool update. We were flying totally blind. We'd love to carry Trump's speech but we have a slammed day today. And so yeah, unfortunately we're just not going to be able to make it to the speech. We'll clearly, if something big happens, we'll.

[Benny Johnson]

Do a update on it, maybe take.

[Alex]

It live, maybe just do a read on it. But ladies and gentlemen, we're going to end I guess on a, on a good note. President Trump, obviously the president of peace, somebody who will not be bringing peace, is someone who wants to liberate all criminals from New York. Guy named Zorhan Mandami who's caught in a little bit of a scandal here. Apparently he took thousands of dollars in illegal foreign donations. $13,000. This is of course a big no, no, very naughty. The New York Post has learned that one of, one of the donations were from his mother in law. Thousands of dollars, hundreds and thousands of dollars. Obviously this guy has really creepy connections globally. A true Manchurian candidate here. At least 170 of the nearly 54,000 contributions of the leading Democrat candidates campaign came from donors with addresses outside of the United States. According to the New York City Campaign finance board, only U.S. citizens or permanent legal residents are allowed to contribute. This would be a big violation of, excuse me, federal law.

[Benny Johnson]

State law is very problematic, not just.

[Alex]

For Zorha Mandami, but anybody with these kind of PACs, because it's a license to illegally funnel money and foreign countries know that you don't have to go to war against America. All you got to do is manipulate the election. That's exactly right. So we'll see what happens. We'll see if there's a full scale investigation.

[Benny Johnson]

President Trump told me that he wants.

[Alex]

To put Mondami in jail. So there you go. Because you'd been jail. So happy to get that.

[Benny Johnson]

All right, ladies and gentlemen, we're logging off today and getting back to work with our verse of the day.

[Alex]

Here we go. Ephesians 4:3.

[Benny Johnson]

Make every effort to keep the unity.

[Alex]

Of the spirit through the bond of peace. A beautiful message for today. The bond of peace. That is what President Trump is doing in the Middle east today and it's our honor to cover it. We're happy the wars are winding down or over. President Trump saying the war is over and well, quite frankly, this is exactly what you should do if you are a Christian. You should end wars and you should do it through strength. That's what we're going to be practicing this week.

[Benny Johnson]

We'll have Eric Trump on the show tomorrow along with Senator Kennedy.

[Alex]

We'll be doing a Show live from D.C. we'll be at D.C. with our with our show and then we'll be at the White House and we'll be on Jesse Waters show tomorrow night.

[Benny Johnson]

And so please say a prayer for.

[Alex]

Us as we will be rocking and rolling once again. I want wishing to honor Charlie at his Medal of Freedom ceremony at the White House. So join us tomorrow. May God bless you. This the greatest country on earth and.

[Benny Johnson]

In the end we win.

[Alex]

It's war betting see you.

[Killer Klein]

All of the time I spend in the sands of Egypt wondering why they built the Miriam is so big when there's not a single it's not a matter of it but a matter of when they come by the water they come for the land Not a matter of it but a matter of when Never see again I'm FL I cross the desert with the storms of my enemies I'm across the desert with the skulls on my head on.

[Pastor Doug Wilson]

We'Re here.

[Killer Klein]

For a long time Here for a good time Here for a good time we're here for a long time we're here for a good time Here for a good time Here for a long time we're here for a good time they said it would be 100 years but I'm looking at it here I can see it here the end of the world in front of me I'm flying across the desert with the skulls of my enemies.

[J]

Truth gon be faith and freedom on your TV screen Stand up strong battle through the night the Benny shows here Bringing liberty to life from the speeches to debates Benny sharp like a blade coming through the lies watch the truth cascade with the warrior's heart this man never fades. You know it's prime time when Benny invades. From saving the nation to stories untold the Benny shows a storm See the truth unfold Stay in the loop Let freedom take hold. Salt in all the libs Soul never soul. It's the Benny show where the truth gonna be Faith and freedom on your TV screen Stand up strong, battle through the night the Benny shows here. Bringing liberty to life, Liberty to light. Bringing liberty to light. Liberty to light. Bringing liberty to life. From the speeches to the plates Benny sh sharp like a blade Cut me through the lies Watch the truth cascade with the warrior's heart this man never fades. You know it's prime time when Benny invades. From saving the nation to stories untold the Benny shows a storm See the truth unfold Stay in the loop let freedom take hold. Salting all the libs Soul never soul it's the Benny show where the truth going to be Faith and freedom on your TV screen Stand up strong battle through the night the banish shows here Bringing liberty to light. Bringing liberty to light. Bringing liberty to light. Bringing liberty the light. Bringing liberty the light.

[Steve Hilton]

Action.

[Alex]

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[Benny Johnson]

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[Alex]

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