Full Show PT 1: Friday, February 20 [Vault]

Summary

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The Bert Show: Full Show PT 1 – Friday, February 20, 2026 [Vault]

Theme Overview

This episode of The Bert Show is a classic example of the team’s signature mix of humor, honesty, and relatable life stories. The show kicks off with a revealing segment on career assessments with Dr. Rick Van Haveren from CareerNavigator.net, where each team member learns what careers best suit their personalities—sometimes uncomfortably so. The episode then dives into the hidden dramas of professional nannies, featuring raw, anonymous testimonials about the challenges and awkward situations they face in family homes.

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Career Assessment Reveal with Dr. Rick Van Haveren

[01:00 – 16:52]

Segment Purpose

• The cast took personality and reasoning tests off-air.
• Dr. Rick Van Haveren interprets their results live, sparking playful banter and honest reflection on personal strengths and career fit.

Key Insights & Cast Reactions

Wendy’s Results

• Strengths: Warm, attentive, lively, spontaneous, likes the familiar.
• Best-fit Careers: Office practices (bank manager, insurance agent, restaurant manager), development roles (childcare worker, special education teacher).
• Quote:
  • "I'm gonna be like a forklift operator who doesn't get emails." – Wendy [01:43]
  • “Not hearing a lot of stuff in there that indicates entertainer.” – Bert [02:25]
• Weaknesses: Low fit for science, architecture, math-heavy or research careers.
• Moment: Realizes her score for broadcasting is lowest among the team.
• Notable Banter: The team jokes about her being better “behind a desk” and tease her about alternative careers ("What if you're supposed to be a stripper?") [01:48].

Bert’s Results

• Strengths: Imaginative, open to change, risk-taking, highest anxiety among the team.
• Best-fit Careers: Artistic roles (photography, writing, performing arts).
• Quote:
  • “Whatever you do, as long as it's a form of self-expression would be a good fit.” – Dr. Rick Van Haveren [05:00]
  • "I just want to be. I want to be led. Somebody leave me." – Bert [07:05]
• Weaknesses: Poor fit for administrative, cubicle-based jobs.
• Moment: Confesses insecurity about his role and leadership aversion.
• Notable Banter: Cast jokes about being more interested in following than leading.

Melissa’s Results

• Strengths: Introverted, reserved, highly cooperative, prefers deferring to others, serious, risk-averse.
• Best-fit Careers: Writing, librarian, liberal arts professor, biology, math.
• Quote:
  • "Entertainer really didn't." – Dr. Rick Van Haveren, when asked if entertainment was a top match for Melissa [08:54]
  • “Her calling is something bigger than radio. Like it's in philanthropy or it's in…I just kind of feel like she's bigger.” – Bert [09:30]
• Weaknesses: Not suited for business management, sales, or high-level administrative roles.

Jen’s Results

• Strengths: Extroverted, warm, socially bold, top leadership skills.
• Best-fit Careers: Advertising, marketing, corporate trainer, media executive, artistic roles, helping professions (therapist, counselor).
• Quote:
  • “You had the best leadership skills.” – Dr. Rick Van Haveren [10:33]
• Unique Note: High emotional stability, low anxiety scores—prompting skeptical jokes from the team.

Jeff’s Results

• Strengths: Extremely introverted, imaginative, risk-taker, highly authoritarian leadership style.
• Best-fit Careers: Law, CEO, investment manager, physicist, analytical roles.
• Quote:
  • “If he was in a leadership position, probably be a my-way-or-the-highway.” – Dr. Rick Van Haveren [13:03]

Group Dynamics and Reflections

• Overall Group Finding: Slightly higher-than-average anxiety as a group, reflecting perhaps the nature of radio/media.
• Quote:
  • "I think the industry sort of attracts that. Like, there's just a bubbling anxiety to people that get on the radio." – Bert [15:28]
• Team Compatibility: Dr. Van Haveren notes the team’s personality diversity is likely why they work so well together and fill each other’s gaps.

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Nanny Confessions: Hidden Realities of the Job

[18:10 – 28:04]

Segment Purpose

• Amanda, a professional nanny (voice disguised), and other callers share unfiltered experiences dealing with inappropriate behavior in employers’ homes, false accusations, exploitative demands, and the high-stakes world of “nanny poaching.”

Key Insights & Stories

Amanda's Experience

• Years of Experience: Nearly a decade in various homes.
• Recurring Issue: Inappropriate advances, especially from fathers; being forced into secrecy or threatened with job loss.
• Quote:
  • “I caught one father with his hand in the cookie jar, I mean, red handed. And later he approached me and told me if I breathed a word of it to his wife, I would be fired on the spot with no severance pay.” – Amanda [20:15]
• Emotional Toll: The hardest part is maintaining relationships with the kids after trust with the parents is broken.

Stories from Callers

• Caller Amanda (Not disguised): Accused of an affair with a single dad by his ex-wife, resulting in a court case and lost income during custody hearings [23:01].
• International Experience: New Zealand nanny describes being misled about job conditions, forced to do excessive housework instead of childcare, and treated poorly (“I felt like I was imprisoned.”) [24:28].

Systemic Patterns

• Job Mismatch: Nannies frequently promised one thing during interviews, experience something different on the job (overwork, lack of promised amenities, invasions of privacy).
• “Nanny Poaching”: Other parents (especially at places like community pools) will try to entice good nannies away, making loyalty transactional.
• Quote:
  • "No matter how much your nanny tells you that she loves you and she loves your children, at the end of the day, it's a job. And… a lot of them can be bought." – Amanda [26:19]
• Compensation: Atlanta nannies can earn $40,000–$50,000/year plus room, board, and potentially travel.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “Some of the questions are really tough because you know how you want to answer because you know how some people see you…” – Bert, on personality tests [07:33]
• “If there was more money in just following, I would do it, I swear.” – Bert, on his aversion to leadership [07:13]
• “He was the only guy in radio that really just doesn’t like people.” – Bert, on Jeff’s introversion [12:32]
• “Thank you for the call, Amanda. Good luck fighting off the horny husbands.” – Sean, closing out nanny segment [27:54]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Career Assessments & Cast Reactions: 01:00 – 16:52
• Nanny Confessions (with anonymous Amanda): 18:10 – 28:04
• Top Moments Per Person:
  • Wendy’s career diagnosis: 01:39 – 04:07
  • Bert’s analysis: 04:44 – 07:21
  • Melissa’s profile: 07:54 – 09:59
  • Jen’s feedback: 10:15 – 11:21
  • Jeff’s evaluation: 12:15 – 14:13
  • Amanda’s nanny story: 18:10 – 22:32
  • Caller Amanda and “nanny poaching:” 23:01 – 27:07

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Tone & Atmosphere

• Warm, Playful & Candid: The team uses their trademark humor even when discussing uncomfortable findings.
• Supportive & Genuine: Offering each other encouragement and space to respond to difficult revelations.
• Unfiltered Reality: Nanny segment moves into more serious, confessional territory but stays grounded in the team’s real-talk style.

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Listening to this episode gives you a behind-the-scenes look at both the personal vulnerabilities of the cast and the raw realities behind the seemingly simple job of being a nanny. It’s revealing, funny, at times a bit dark, and always real—perfect for fans who love The Bert Show’s blend of candor and comedy.

Transcript

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[Host (possibly Bert)]

Show Dr. Rick Vanhaven from CareerNavigator.net joins us this morning. Good morning.

[Dr. Rick Van Haveren]

Good morning.

[Host (possibly Bert)]

How are you?

[Dr. Rick Van Haveren]

I'm doing well, thanks.

[Host (possibly Bert)]

We all took the same career assessment test off the air throughout the last couple of weeks. There were just a couple of, like, math questions at the end.

[Co-host (possibly Sean)]

Right.

[Host (possibly Bert)]

And why.

[Dr. Rick Van Haveren]

It's look at reasoning. Reasoning skills.

[Host (possibly Bert)]

Okay.

[Dr. Rick Van Haveren]

Most of his personality. But you have a little bit with reasoning as well.

[Co-host (possibly Wendy)]

Okay.

[Co-host (possibly Sean)]

Did you score those separately? Like, can you tell us who got the most right out of those? Because I was feeling really competitive at the end.

[Dr. Rick Van Haveren]

No, it doesn't give you individual scores for that.

[Co-host (possibly Sean)]

It's a lousy test.

[Dr. Rick Van Haveren]

Okay, we'll start with Wendy.

[Host (possibly Bert)]

Wendy's over here.

[Co-host (possibly Wendy)]

I'm really nervous.

[Host (possibly Bert)]

Why?

[Co-host (possibly Wendy)]

Don't be nervous.

[Host (possibly Bert)]

You got this.

[Co-host (possibly Wendy)]

I'm gonna be like a forklift operator

[Amanda (Nanny, voice disguised)]

who doesn't get emails.

[Co-host (possibly Sean)]

What if you're supposed to. What if you're supposed to be a stripper? And that listener who said get on the pole is right.

[Amanda (Nanny, voice disguised)]

I'm right.

[Host (possibly Bert)]

They were actually giving you solid advice.

[Dr. Rick Van Haveren]

Well, in terms of characteristics, Wendy tends to be pretty warm, attentive to others, pretty lively, spontaneous, and likes familiar within the workplace. Okay, so in terms of jobs that might be a good fit, there tend to be two character or two categories. One would be things like office practices. A bank manager stock scored pretty high on insurance agent and really high on restaurant manager.

[Co-host (possibly Wendy)]

Really? I'm taking over the flying biscuits.

[Host (possibly Bert)]

All right, baby.

[Co-host (possibly Sean)]

We're gonna have to have a talk.

[Host (possibly Bert)]

Isn't there that restaurant at the Cheetah? What is that one? There you go. You killed two birds with one stone.

[Co-host (possibly Sean)]

They'd serve a great.

[Co-host (possibly Wendy)]

I guess you're hoping for Oasis, the good time emporium.

[Host (possibly Bert)]

So that indicated to you that she's better behind a desk?

[Dr. Rick Van Haveren]

She's good behind the desk in addition to. She kind of has a helping style. So something like development. Childcare worker, special education teacher, things like that.

[Co-host (possibly Sean)]

According to that listener, she's best under the desk,

[Dr. Rick Van Haveren]

can do it all.

[Co-host (possibly Wendy)]

Jack of all trades.

[Host (possibly Bert)]

Maybe she was just trying to help. Better direction into a profession she saw was better for you. Okay, so a nurturer.

[Dr. Rick Van Haveren]

Yep. And in terms of things she might want to avoid. Science, architecture, medical research, or kind of your math science types of things.

[Co-host (possibly Wendy)]

I don't want to go back to school.

[Host (possibly Bert)]

So I'm not hearing a lot of stuff in there that indicates entertainer.

[Dr. Rick Van Haveren]

Not really. Actually, in terms of looking at everyone here and their characteristics, Wendy has the lowest score compared to other broadcasters.

[Host (possibly Bert)]

Okay. What a great day of rating. Don't you love your job? This is great.

[Co-host (possibly Wendy)]

I'm gonna go home and just turn off all the lights. I'm not kidding.

[Co-host (possibly Sean)]

You want to go drink and rate a 10? Yeah, I'll go with you.

[Host (possibly Bert)]

I used to work with a girl in Dallas that would get an email or some results like this, and she said she would sit home and she would sit in bed and she would watch her ceiling fan all day long. It threw her into such a depression.

[Co-host (possibly Wendy)]

Oh, I won't go do that. I'll go for a run.

[Dr. Rick Van Haveren]

Well, it was still in the low average range, but not as high compared to everybody else.

[Host (possibly Bert)]

So she's an entertainer? Sorta. But it's not best for her personality. Okay, well, it's too late now. You're under contract.

[Dr. Rick Van Haveren]

You can't.

[Host (possibly Bert)]

You can't leave even if you want to. You can't go anywhere. Okay.

[Co-host (possibly Wendy)]

Okay.

[Host (possibly Bert)]

You're under contract, right?

[Amanda (Nanny, voice disguised)]

No.

[Co-host (possibly Wendy)]

Oh, really? But thank you for the.

[Co-host (possibly Sean)]

That'll help.

[Host (possibly Bert)]

Can we.

[Co-host (possibly Wendy)]

I'm getting fired today. I have a pink slip on my desk. Stop talking. Yeah, I want to go off the show somewhere else.

[Host (possibly Bert)]

Mine obviously says I talk too much.

[Co-host (possibly Sean)]

Let's move on to Bert.

[Host (possibly Bert)]

Anywhere you like.

[Dr. Rick Van Haveren]

Okay, well, we'll do Bert. Okay.

[Host (possibly Bert)]

Okay.

[Dr. Rick Van Haveren]

Bert tends to be pretty imaginative, abstract, open to change. Also a little tense, driven, and had the highest anxiety score. Okay.

[Host (possibly Bert)]

I would probably say totally fair.

[Dr. Rick Van Haveren]

Risk taking, adventure. So in terms of work environments, definitely fits the artistic type. Probably. Whatever you do, as long as it's a form of self expression would be a good fit. So something like photography, writing and editing, performing arts. You're really that true?

[Co-host (possibly Sean)]

You could be that happy little trees painter guy on pbs. Yeah, Happy little trees right here near the cabin.

[Co-host (possibly Wendy)]

Passed away not too long ago.

[Co-host (possibly Sean)]

Well, he needs a fill in then. That guy was like.

[Host (possibly Bert)]

He was like a lava lamp. It's just so comforting watching.

[Co-host (possibly Sean)]

And why did you stop every time you were flipping through? He was like the Shawshank Redemption before the Shawshank Redemption.

[Host (possibly Bert)]

You're right.

[Co-host (possibly Wendy)]

You couldn't just pass by him and

[Co-host (possibly Sean)]

we're gonna paint a happy little stream right down here.

[Co-host (possibly Wendy)]

And I'd be like, it was like a masterpiece. When he was down.

[Co-host (possibly Sean)]

Some happy clouds. I don't know why I'm talking like this. Turning myself on.

[Co-host (possibly Wendy)]

Guest in studio.

[Co-host (possibly Sean)]

Happy little pants.

[Co-host (possibly Wendy)]

Oh, my God. Okay, I'm sorry, Doctor.

[Host (possibly Bert)]

I think, yeah, yeah. I mean, it sounds pretty accurate. I'm very always a little insecure about the show. Always sort of feeling like, oh, man, that was it. That was the last good day of radio we ever had.

[Dr. Rick Van Haveren]

When even watching you hear, you know, you're up and you're moving around. So as you mentioned, something like office practices, administrative type things where you had to sit in a cubicle all day.

[Host (possibly Bert)]

Yeah.

[Dr. Rick Van Haveren]

Like filling out the questionnaire. I would have guessed that was probably pretty.

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Pretty stressful for you.

[Host (possibly Bert)]

Gun in my head, if I had to do that, seriously, that would be really difficult. So entertaining. I'm in the right field, right? I'm just going to be insecure about it.

[Dr. Rick Van Haveren]

That's right.

[Host (possibly Bert)]

Okay.

[Co-host (possibly Sean)]

Yeah, that's spot on.

[Host (possibly Bert)]

I spent an hour taking your test and you didn't tell me a damn thing I didn't already know. All right, how about me? Is there something else? Am I cutting you off?

[Dr. Rick Van Haveren]

In terms of leadership? You're probably a pretty permissive leader. So in terms of leading others might not be.

[Host (possibly Bert)]

I don't like it.

[Dr. Rick Van Haveren]

Yeah, I don't.

[Host (possibly Bert)]

I really don't. It's the part of the job that I hate more than anything else is

[Dr. Rick Van Haveren]

I have to manage.

[Host (possibly Bert)]

I suck at it. Melissa and I had a conversation yesterday and I was anxious throughout the entire.

[Co-host (possibly Wendy)]

I hate it.

[Host (possibly Bert)]

I just want to be. I want to be led. Somebody leave me.

[Co-host (possibly Sean)]

Save all that.

[Host (possibly Bert)]

If there was more money in just following, I would do it, I swear. All right, that sounds really accurate. Like, I feel like you nailed me on that.

[Co-host (possibly Wendy)]

Which means you're a good test taker then.

[Host (possibly Bert)]

Well, I copied off somebody else's paper.

[Co-host (possibly Wendy)]

You didn't think you were. You know, he just made a design in all the circles, you know, when

[Co-host (possibly Sean)]

he was BBB C C C. Hey, look, it's a naked woman. Look at her dresses.

[Host (possibly Bert)]

Some of the questions are really tough because you know how you want to answer because you know how some people see you. Where like, I think people probably see me as more outgoing than I. But I have a very shy side to me at times and a very insecure side in public. And I really strange about answering those questions. Honestly, I think I got through. All right, Melissa.

[Dr. Rick Van Haveren]

All right, Melissa. Interesting. Tends to be pretty introverted, reserved, but also cooperative. Probably deferred to others. So also has kind of a permissive leadership style. Tends to be pretty serious and low on risk taking. So different than a number of the others in the group.

[Co-host (possibly Sean)]

That's why Bert and Melissa haven't had sex yet. Because nobody is willing to step up and make it happen. Although we all in here can tell that they want to.

[Co-host (possibly Wendy)]

You feel the chemistry.

[Host (possibly Bert)]

It might show that we're good liars. It's almost elect.

[Co-host (possibly Sean)]

I'm surprised the doctor's not getting warm just sitting between the two of you.

[Co-host (possibly Wendy)]

He's never coming back.

[Dr. Rick Van Haveren]

Okay, so in terms of jobs, it might be a good fit. You scored high on writing. Librarian. Librarian. Scored high on librarian. Liberal arts professor.

[Co-host (possibly Wendy)]

Okay, I could totally see that.

[Dr. Rick Van Haveren]

Okay, maybe some science things. Biology, math. Those kind of things. Things.

[Co-host (possibly Wendy)]

All right.

[Host (possibly Bert)]

Where did entertainer come up on that whole thing?

[Dr. Rick Van Haveren]

Well, entertainer really didn't. Oh, good.

[Co-host (possibly Wendy)]

I'm not alone. I didn't want to be in my own bubble. There's somebody in my bubble. You could be the special ed teacher in a school and I'll be the librarian who's hiring.

[Host (possibly Bert)]

I have sort of said this to Melissa before and I've tried to do it in a non offensive way. Like you're about to talk too much.

[Co-host (possibly Sean)]

You know what? That was very leader oriented. Shut the hell up.

[Host (possibly Bert)]

I had said to Melissa that I think that her calling is something bigger than radio. Like it's in philanthropy or it's in. I don't know. I mean. And I never said you're not good at what you do. It's just that, I don't know, I just kind of feel like she's bigger. Like some of those stuff that you were talking about, we didn't have like comfortable. Yeah.

[Dr. Rick Van Haveren]

So in terms of things to avoid, a lot of business type things. Management, sales CEO, hotel manager, hospital administrator. Those kind of things.

[Co-host (possibly Wendy)]

Well, no, yeah, I mean, we talked about that because I think that, you know, I view things in more of a. Of a bigger, I don't know, scope sometimes more than I should. You know, I don't. I never tend to dumb things down and sometimes I need to. And so, you know, so that's a. That's a fair assessment. Yeah.

[Co-host (possibly Sean)]

All right.

[Dr. Rick Van Haveren]

Jen hobby, Good news for Jen. Tends to be really extroverted, warm, open to others, more socially bold than others on the team.

[Co-host (possibly Wendy)]

Proven by midnight swim.

[Co-host (possibly Sean)]

That's proven anytime you drink.

[Dr. Rick Van Haveren]

And in terms of. You had the best leadership skills.

[Amanda (Nanny, voice disguised)]

Oh, that's cool.

[Dr. Rick Van Haveren]

So looking at that. Had good leadership skills.

[Co-host (possibly Sean)]

Come on, do a shot. Do a shot. What are you, a girl?

[Co-host (possibly Wendy)]

Exactly.

[Co-host (possibly Sean)]

Do a shot.

[Co-host (possibly Wendy)]

That is kind of what I was saying to you.

[Host (possibly Bert)]

And what did I do?

[Co-host (possibly Wendy)]

You followed my lead. Yes, I did.

[Co-host (possibly Sean)]

It's our party profile.

[Dr. Rick Van Haveren]

So in terms of jobs, that would be a good fit. Lots of different types of things. Advertising, marketing, corporate trainer, media.

[Host (possibly Bert)]

You were in marketing for a while.

[Dr. Rick Van Haveren]

Media executive. Also some artistic type things. Music, dramatics, interior decorator, and maybe some helping things like be an occupational therapist, child development counseling, those kind of things.

[Co-host (possibly Sean)]

You're pretty high on prostitute.

[Host (possibly Bert)]

Things that she's not doing now.

[Co-host (possibly Wendy)]

Very Bowles.

[Host (possibly Bert)]

She's not dabbling in.

[Co-host (possibly Wendy)]

I mean, she's calling that marketing. So it's all in how you spin it. Just get in the car. Just get in the car.

[Host (possibly Bert)]

Oh, so far so good. Yeah.

[Dr. Rick Van Haveren]

Well, she. There's. There's an anxiety scale and an emotional adjustment scale and Jen had the highest scores there. So what does that mean? The lowest anxiety and you have the best emotional judgment or emotional stability.

[Host (possibly Bert)]

That's where you sort of lost credibility Right up until then.

[Co-host (possibly Wendy)]

Right up until emotional stability. She's all in.

[Dr. Rick Van Haveren]

Although it was still in the average range.

[Co-host (possibly Wendy)]

She's a really good faker. Is actress on there at

[Host (possibly Bert)]

all?

[Co-host (possibly Wendy)]

Right.

[Dr. Rick Van Haveren]

And for Jeff, I saved Jeff for last. He was an interesting. He's got an interesting profile. And it seemed like it took him a while to actually take the assessment serial.

[Host (possibly Bert)]

He was the last one to take it.

[Dr. Rick Van Haveren]

He was the last one. Very introverted. More introverted than anybody else.

[Host (possibly Bert)]

He don't like people. We've said that before. Jeff's not. He's the only guy in radio that really just doesn't like people.

[Dr. Rick Van Haveren]

Right. And he had higher scores on being suspicious, a little bit guarded.

[Co-host (possibly Sean)]

Not a suspicious character. I'm suspicious of others suspicious.

[Host (possibly Bert)]

You're a shady character too.

[Co-host (possibly Sean)]

The most likely to steal something out of your purse, maybe to hack into their parents bank account and take the retirement Fund.

[Co-host (possibly Wendy)]

Pull your kids away. Pull them away.

[Dr. Rick Van Haveren]

Let's see. He was also pretty though abstract, imaginative and also have some risk taking adventure interests. So in terms of when his leadership style, the scores are from 1 to 10 and he had a 10 on being an authoritarian leader. So where everybody else is kind of in the middle or on the permissive side, Jeff is def. If he was in a leadership position, probably be a my way or the highway.

[Host (possibly Bert)]

Yeah, he's a bulldog. Yeah, I think I've referred to him as the bulldog before. Bulldozer.

[Co-host (possibly Sean)]

It was just private. It was privately when we were cuddling, but.

[Host (possibly Bert)]

And you're my little poodle.

[Co-host (possibly Wendy)]

Now we see where the real chemistry is. Melissa, you're out.

[Co-host (possibly Sean)]

Well, I'm authoritative, inverts, a pushover. So taking advantage of.

[Dr. Rick Van Haveren]

So in terms of jobs, it might be a good fit. Law, math.

[Host (possibly Bert)]

You were getting into law, right?

[Co-host (possibly Sean)]

Yeah, originally, yeah, before I got sidetracked into this illustrious crap.

[Dr. Rick Van Haveren]

It's definitely an interesting path. Yeah. So other types of things, like being a CEO, investment manager, physicist, really analytical types of things, critical thinking, types of skin, all stuff.

[Host (possibly Bert)]

Good for him. I've always said that he's. Jeff is one of the best troubleshooters I've ever worked. No, the best troubleshooter. Very analytical, can see everything from all sides and sort of like he's a cabinet in one because he's got a whole bunch of different angles on just one thing. Boy, these were right on. With the exception of Jen's emotional thing, these things were right on.

[Co-host (possibly Sean)]

How much? Come on, you're gonna make her cry.

[Co-host (possibly Wendy)]

Okay.

[Co-host (possibly Sean)]

No, it's not.

[Co-host (possibly Wendy)]

Yeah, it is.

[Co-host (possibly Sean)]

Crying, traveling pants.

[Co-host (possibly Wendy)]

Yes, but that was a good move.

[Host (possibly Bert)]

No, you've been. I mean, come on.

[Co-host (possibly Sean)]

Is there any indication in there, like going back to the CEO thing? For me, if I left radio right now, like at 10:15 today, how much could I make as a CEO ASAP?

[Host (possibly Bert)]

Please tell us. Please tell us. The number is high.

[Dr. Rick Van Haveren]

Oh, it's in terms of salary.

[Co-host (possibly Sean)]

Yeah.

[Dr. Rick Van Haveren]

Oh, yeah.

[Host (possibly Bert)]

Crazy amounts.

[Dr. Rick Van Haveren]

I mean, assuming it's, you know, there's some people have a company of two and they're the CEO.

[Host (possibly Bert)]

So you could be your own CEO.

[Co-host (possibly Sean)]

CEO of Jeff Inc. That's right.

[Host (possibly Bert)]

So as side notes, was there anything that really shocked you by anybody or as a group?

[Dr. Rick Van Haveren]

I'd say the anxiety a little bit as a group, just kind of. But. But you find with a lot of people who are pretty driven, they can be tense, anxious about things, worry about things, fret about things, ruminating. So I thought that was kind of a surprise.

[Host (possibly Bert)]

I think the industry sort of attracts that. Like there's just a bubbling anxiety to people that get on the radio. Or both.

[Co-host (possibly Wendy)]

I think both. Yeah, for sure.

[Host (possibly Bert)]

Probably the career that we should stay away from to protect ourselves. And we dove right in.

[Co-host (possibly Wendy)]

Right? Yeah, I think, yeah. Radio, media, I think all media is filled with many, many insecure people. I think that's how you're extroverted. You know, anytime you push yourself out there, it's. I don't know, I think sometimes to make up for something that you feel inside.

[Co-host (possibly Sean)]

Is there anything that would indicate that we don't work well together as a team?

[Dr. Rick Van Haveren]

Not really. I mean, it's interesting. You all have some different personality characteristics and probably in a way that's how it makes it work. Where if you were all the same way, you don't have somebody to fill

[Host (possibly Bert)]

in the gaps, would you have not knowing that we are a team, if somebody was saying, look, potentially hiring these four or five people to work on a team together, would your assessment be, that looks great, they're gonna be around, or would it be don't even get them in a room together?

[Dr. Rick Van Haveren]

I think that it would work well in looking at your personality styles because it's different enough. Different enough, right?

[Host (possibly Bert)]

This was fun.

[Co-host (possibly Wendy)]

That was cool.

[Host (possibly Bert)]

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[Co-host (possibly Sean)]

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[Co-host (possibly Wendy)]

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[Dr. Rick Van Haveren]

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[Co-host (possibly Sean)]

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[Host (possibly Bert)]

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[Co-host (possibly Sean)]

Right now, we are joined by Amanda, who is gotta be on the voice disguiser. You have the voice disguiser, Sean. Hey, Amanda. Just say hello.

[Amanda (Nanny, voice disguised)]

Hello.

[Co-host (possibly Sean)]

That's voice disguised. How are you?

[Amanda (Nanny, voice disguised)]

Yes, I'm good. How are you guys?

[Host (possibly Bert)]

Good.

[Co-host (possibly Sean)]

We always like to test the voice disguise when Bert's not here to make sure it's working so we can protect your identity because we know that that's when the good stories come out.

[Amanda (Nanny, voice disguised)]

Yep.

[Co-host (possibly Sean)]

How long have you been nannying?

[Amanda (Nanny, voice disguised)]

Almost 10 years now.

[Co-host (possibly Wendy)]

For the same family?

[Amanda (Nanny, voice disguised)]

No, definitely not. For several different ones.

[Dr. Rick Van Haveren]

Okay.

[Co-host (possibly Wendy)]

Okay. I like the definitely not. Is that definitely not because they all have an expiration date?

[Amanda (Nanny, voice disguised)]

I think so. I hate to say it, but yeah.

[Co-host (possibly Sean)]

Now tell us how you came to be on the bird show. Now, because Tracy scheduled this, I'm assuming you emailed me. Send something in.

[Amanda (Nanny, voice disguised)]

Well, I heard Bert mention a few weeks ago in passing, something about the fathers hitting on babysitters and nannies. And I was like, you know, I think everyone needs to understand what nannies go through every day because it gets to be pretty ridiculous.

[Co-host (possibly Sean)]

Okay, well, let me give the phone number out first at 404741, Q100. And we're gonna leave the phone lines open for any nannies listening who want to share similar stories. But now it's your turn, so enlighten us as to what nannies go through.

[Amanda (Nanny, voice disguised)]

Okay. Well, I mean, you can go a number of places with this, but I think that, first of all, the biggest mistake that parents make is they forget that there is another person in their home. And there's a line, you know, where things just become, like, inappropriate and, you know, this whole mess just came out. Well, not just, but with Rob and his nanny and accused him and his wife of doing, like, inappropriate, appropriate things. And you have to find that line. But it happens, like, in your neighborhood. It's not just with movie stars and, you know, such as.

[Co-host (possibly Sean)]

Give us an. Give us a first person example of something that's happened to you or somebody, you know, where the line's been crossed.

[Amanda (Nanny, voice disguised)]

Well, with me, I think, like, the biggest example I can tell you about is Just the extra marital affairs I have witnessed. And I caught one father with his hand in the cookie jar, I mean, red handed. And later he approached me and told me if I breathed a word of it to his wife, I would be fired on the spot with no severance pay. And, you know, I was living with them in a city not close to home. So, you know, you have no choice. You have to keep your mouth closed.

[Co-host (possibly Wendy)]

How was that when you were hanging out with the wife?

[Amanda (Nanny, voice disguised)]

It was horrible because she was so nice and just a really nice lady and she had no clue. It was really hard for me.

[Co-host (possibly Sean)]

When something like that happens and do you immediately start and you know that it's never going to be the same in the house, do you immediately start looking for another job?

[Amanda (Nanny, voice disguised)]

Yeah, well, yeah, pretty much. You have to because, you know, once a line like that has been crossed, it can only get worse. And the worst part is that, you know, you're attached to the children because they're the reason that you're there. And I have witnessed, you know, fathers especially, they can be really flamboyant about their mistresses or they just hit on you, the nanny, like right out in front of everyone. And that is always awkward in front

[Co-host (possibly Wendy)]

of the wife, too.

[Amanda (Nanny, voice disguised)]

Yeah. And I don't understand. I'd be really interested to hear if other people can put some input on this, but I don't understand how some of the moms, they just act oblivious to it. And I was working as a temporary nanny for a while and it seemed like every family I went into, and I hate to say it, but the more wealthy the people were, the worse this would be. Generally, the dads would just look at you like you're a piece of meat or like you're there to do more than take care of kids. And they can be really, really adamant about what they want and it's shocking sometimes. I definitely have a great job now with a family that I love and they're wonderful and, you know, I don't have to deal with that kind of stuff, but, you know, it definitely happens.

[Co-host (possibly Wendy)]

Through your years of experience, like when you're interviewing for the job, do you now make sure that you meet the husband and the, you know, the mom and the dad before you take the job?

[Amanda (Nanny, voice disguised)]

Yes, absolutely. And those are things that you learn from experience. Definitely. What, what to look for and what not to you and things like that.

[Co-host (possibly Sean)]

The calls are coming in, backing you up. Hey, Tasha. Hi, Tasha. Hey, how are you?

[Caller Amanda]

I'm good.

[Co-host (possibly Sean)]

Good. You want to contribute to the nanny horror stories?

[Caller Amanda]

Yeah, I just wanted to say, like, not all ones are bad. I work for a really good family now, but I did have a family I worked for. I worked for a single dad, and he. His wife actually accused us of sleeping together and took us to court.

[Co-host (possibly Wendy)]

Took you to court. Okay.

[Caller Amanda]

His ex wife, because I guess part of their custody agreement was that he can't have other women in the house or sleeping over if they're, you know, not married or anything like that. So I was working for him, and I did overnights for him, but when I did overnights, he was out of town. But apparently she decided she was gonna take us to court because she assumed we were sleeping together.

[Co-host (possibly Sean)]

When that happens, do you have to pay for your own lawyer and your own representation?

[Caller Amanda]

No, he paid for everything. The only sucky thing is they took the kids. So I didn't work for a month until the whole custody thing was over.

[Co-host (possibly Sean)]

We have a different Amanda who's not on the voice disguiser. Going to a non infidelity extreme. Hey, Amanda.

[Amanda (Nanny, voice disguised)]

Hi.

[Caller Amanda]

How's it going?

[Dr. Rick Van Haveren]

Good.

[Co-host (possibly Sean)]

How are you?

[Caller Amanda]

Good, good. Well, I have a couple of experiences, actually. I came over from New Zealand to work as a nanny for a family that I interviewed over the phone. And I came over and it was insane. Basically, when I got there, I was bas housekeeper for the first couple of months until she had her second baby. And some of the things that they expected me to do and for the amount of pay was just ridiculous.

[Co-host (possibly Sean)]

Give us a couple examples.

[Caller Amanda]

Okay. Well, the father actually had his own private bathroom because the wife wouldn't use it after him. It was disgusting. I was cleaning all kinds of stuff off the wall. He would put his nose content on the wall in the bathroom.

[Co-host (possibly Wendy)]

Nose contents. I like that. Yeah. It's not boogers. No.

[Caller Amanda]

I was expected to wash the kitchen floor three times a week, and it was a huge kitchen. Also do the windows once a month, clean the oven, clean all the ceiling fans, and for the amount of hay, which was just absolutely ridiculous.

[Co-host (possibly Wendy)]

And you thought you were going to be taking care of children.

[Caller Amanda]

Exactly. And they promised me a vehicle when I came over, and I didn't get it. I did not get a car to you. So basically I was. Felt like I was imprisoned. It was just horrible.

[Host (possibly Bert)]

Hey.

[Co-host (possibly Sean)]

Ooh, I'm sorry. I just cut her off. Hey. Voice disguise demanded. Does that happen a lot? Is that something? That's typical.

[Amanda (Nanny, voice disguised)]

Actually, that happened to me twice. Once I did a phone interview and I actually moved out to New Orleans, and nothing was what the family said it was at all. They had me sleeping in the bedroom with the children, in the bed with them. They didn't even have a bedroom for me. That was, like, the worst one. But that's the thing, is that people, couples, if they like you and they want you to work for them, they will lie to you. They will tell you. You know, they'll offer you all these things and tell you how great it will be to live with them and how they have these fabulous things that you'll be allowed to use, and then it never pans out.

[Co-host (possibly Sean)]

Is it true that, like, if you're a nanny and you're a good nanny, like, people will try to steal you away? Wasn't it a Sex and the City episode where she was, like, hitting on the nanny in a park, trying to get the good nanny?

[Amanda (Nanny, voice disguised)]

It is. And no matter how much your nanny tells you that she loves you and she loves your children, at the end of the day, it's a job. And generally a lot of them can be bought.

[Co-host (possibly Wendy)]

Really? Wow.

[Amanda (Nanny, voice disguised)]

Yeah. It's true. And it's sad. I'm just being honest with y', all, but it's true.

[Co-host (possibly Wendy)]

Where were you hanging out with other parents when they were trying to steal you?

[Amanda (Nanny, voice disguised)]

I'll tell you, the number one place is the neighborhood pool during the summer.

[Co-host (possibly Wendy)]

Oh, that's funny.

[Amanda (Nanny, voice disguised)]

Yeah, because. And the moms, like, the moms that stay home with their children, they're always so good to know, like, if you like your job, if you like the family, what's going on with them. And so it pays to be nice to your nanny, especially if you're sending her out to be around your neighbors, because if she doesn't like you, she will air out all your dirty laundry. I've heard it a lot.

[Co-host (possibly Sean)]

Oh, wow. So that's how the nanny flirting starts. It's like, so how's the family you work for? Are they treating you well?

[Amanda (Nanny, voice disguised)]

Right.

[Co-host (possibly Wendy)]

How much?

[Amanda (Nanny, voice disguised)]

Yeah, I mean, you got it. That's it right there.

[Co-host (possibly Wendy)]

That's funny.

[Co-host (possibly Sean)]

Is it too personal for us to ask how much a nanny can make or how much a nanny should expect to make?

[Amanda (Nanny, voice disguised)]

Well, it varies. It varies on what you do. If you're a housekeeper and a nanny, if you have a college education, if you're a professional or not? So it just depends on what exactly you're looking for. But nannies in Atlanta can make upwards of 40 or 50 a year.

[Co-host (possibly Wendy)]

Okay, that's great.

[Co-host (possibly Sean)]

Plus, you get a place to live, and I assume they take care of your meals when you're in the house, right? You eat with the family?

[Amanda (Nanny, voice disguised)]

Yeah, generally. And vacations and things like that too.

[Dr. Rick Van Haveren]

Cool.

[Co-host (possibly Sean)]

Thank you for the call, Amanda.

[Amanda (Nanny, voice disguised)]

Thank you, guys.

[Co-host (possibly Sean)]

Good luck fighting off the horny husbands.

[Co-host (possibly Wendy)]

Oh, no. And the nanny stealers.

[Co-host (possibly Sean)]

And the nannies. The nanny stealers are a good thing. I put you in demand, your cost goes up.

[Co-host (possibly Wendy)]

Helps you negotiate the bird show.