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Burt
The Bird Show. Morning, Linda. You're on Q100.
Linda
Good morning. About a year and a half ago, I was casually dating this guy. I just wasn't really that into it at the time. I kind of, you know, brought him into my friend group, and he seemed kind of interested in another girl in the friend group. Anyway, well, over the last year and a half, I've gotten to know him, and I really like him. What I've done is I've created a profile. I've set myself up as a guy on MySpace, and I have been communicating with the girl that the guy that I'm into is now dating. She's totally into it. Things have definitely gotten a little inappropriate. Now she's pushing that. She wants to meet.
Burt
Have you even thought ahead? And how are you gonna present this to him?
Linda
So what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna create a totally anonymous email address, and I'm gonna email him, and then he can go look in the email box and see all the correspondence with his girlfriend and this fake guy.
Burt
That was Friday on the show.
Melissa
Now I remember, because that was when you first reminded me of her. I forgot. She created the page as a guy.
Burt
Yeah.
Melissa
And was entrapping the girl and then using it all as.
Unknown Male Caller
Because the other way doesn't make any sense. Yeah, yeah. Makes total sense.
Burt
This way.
Melissa
Well, this way, she'll never get busted for it in her mind.
Unknown Male Caller
Right.
Burt
We're such simple creatures, guys. We would never think of this.
Unknown Male Caller
Well, we would. We would think of it.
Melissa
Oh, no, no.
Unknown Male Caller
We would think of it the other way, and we would screw it. We'd end up screwing it all up.
Burt
What do you mean?
Unknown Male Caller
Like, we would think of it, like, if we're guys, then we would try to set up the other guy, and then we'd end up not being with the girl because she'd think we're crazy. And then the guy wouldn't be our buddy anymore because he would somehow find out about it, but she's being all crafty about it and going to the opposite sex. Brilliant.
Melissa
Smart. Check up.
Unknown Male Caller
Brilliant.
Burt
Hey, Linda. Good morning.
Linda
Good morning.
Burt
All right, you're back on the voice disguiser.
Linda
Okay, good.
Burt
All right, so over the weekend, once again, going into the weekend, the master plan was to do what?
Linda
The master plan was to set up a fake email address and email him and say, hey, bro, check out what your girl's up to and give him.
Burt
Hey, bro, you got the lingo down.
Unknown Male Caller
What's up, bro?
Burt
What's up, bro?
Melissa
Hey, bro, isn't in California it's more like bra.
Linda
I was going to give him the password and the username that I created on MySpace. So the fake guy so that he could see his girlfriend's correspondence with this guy and how she's been kind of inappropriate.
Burt
Yeah, give us some examples of that correspondence. And like you said, the inappropriateness of it.
Linda
You know, she says stuff like, you know, you look really, you look really strong. What sorts of things do you like to wrap those arms around and like really cheesy inappropriate too.
Burt
Just like very Dating game.
Linda
Yeah, just like trying to think what's the sort of worst thing that she wrote that I can say on here? Like she's like, do you like my. There's a picture of her in a bikini on hers and she's like, she like talking about. Because it's a string bikini. Talking about, have you ever taken off someone's bikini with only your teeth?
Melissa
Oh, damn.
Burt
Yeah, she not messing around.
Melissa
Okay, I'm just curious, how much time did you take creating this fake guys MySpace page? Like does it have wallpaper and music?
Linda
It's changed. Yeah, kinda. Well, it started out I was gonna keep it simple, but then I just started having fun. So I made it a little.
Melissa
This is like extensive bio on social.
Linda
Media that I made.
Burt
Can't you see just her like rubbing her hands together? Cause her diabolical plan is coming together.
Melissa
Just like creating like his favorite sports team. What else is he like?
Unknown Male Caller
Yeah, what kind of, what kind of team would he like? Would he be a baseball fan or a football fan? Yeah, and what is he gonna wrap those arms around?
Melissa
Those mighty pythons.
Unknown Male Caller
Welcome to the gun show. Is that his quote? Cause it should be.
Melissa
That should be his quote, his headline.
Burt
So she certainly has bit here. She's writing stuff back like, have you ever like, you know, undone a bikini with your teeth? She's bought it hook, line and sinker.
Linda
Yeah, totally.
Burt
All right, so now the second part of this was how were you gonna tip him off?
Linda
How was I gonna tip the guy that I want to see off?
Burt
Yeah. As yourself or as somebody else?
Linda
No, no, no, no. I was gonna create an anonymous gmail account and then send him an email saying, you know, hey, tone it like it's from another guy. Like, hey, bro, thought you might like to see what your girl's been up to.
Burt
And how long have they been going out?
Linda
Like I guess like eight months, sort of off and on, something like that.
Burt
So it's fairly serious.
Melissa
Yeah, because once you're past the six.
Linda
Month, they're not right for Each other. They're totally not. And especially if she's doing this, you know.
Unknown Male Caller
Totally.
Burt
And you are. You're right for them.
Unknown Male Caller
Yes, but how can you be right for him if you're doing it, too?
Linda
Doing what? I wouldn't be cheating on him with some dude on my face.
Melissa
Evil laugh. Evil laugh.
Burt
All right, so how did it all happen this weekend? What happened?
Linda
Okay, so here's the thing. I went to, you know, log into the account to, like, talk to her, set it up, and she had written me, or, you know, written the guy that I created and said, so, question mark. When are we gonna meet up? Or are you all talk?
Unknown Male Caller
She went, question mark already? No way.
Linda
She had already. You know, she's the one. She took the step. She, like, I don't even have to do that. But the thing is, like, I gotta dig around some more, because what I want to happen is I want to work it out so that I arrange to have her meet this fake guy where my guy is already hanging out. He sees her there, you know what I mean? And is like, what the heck are you doing here? And she'll probably have to have lied to him to get there anyway. And she'll be like, oh, you know, and she'll freak out and act like she's meeting one of her friends. And then when I send him the anonymous email, he'll see, you know, he'll see within the MySpace correspondence that, oh, we're gonna meet at this bar at this time.
Burt
I got a little lost right there.
Melissa
I did, too.
Unknown Male Caller
You're gonna arrange a meeting.
Linda
It's gotten complicated. Okay. What I want to do is I want to be able to set it up on MySpace with her. We're gonna meet at this bar at this time, right? But I want it to be a bar that he hangs out at so that he will be there.
Melissa
So he busts her.
Burt
He's going there.
Linda
He'll bust her there. And, like, maybe, you know, she'll be able to come up with an excuse as to why she'. When I send him the email with the MySpace password and all that stuff, you'll see on the MySpace that she set it up. Well, it's not this guy there.
Unknown Male Caller
It's not going to work.
Sarah
Why?
Unknown Male Caller
Because it's. If it's a bar that he's even been to once before or even remotely close to his neighborhood, she's not going to want to meet the other dude there. There's no way that she's going to go to any bar that he'll even want to come to. So what you need to do is you need to make the arrangement with her to meet at whatever place that she suggests. Then, like, 12 hours before that, send the email to him. The. Yeah, send the fake. The fake dude writes to real dude. Hey, brah, I was just thinking that maybe you and I could go chill and hang here, check out these emails that I've exchanged with another bruh. And, like, so with your girl. Right. So he'll see. Or. Right with you with your girl. So then what'll happen is he'll see that she's gonna be there, and he'll show up and go, what are you doing here? And she's gonna say, I'm gonna be meeting girlfriends. But then he'll say, doll. And then he'll whip out all of the emails.
Burt
Sorry.
Unknown Male Caller
He'll whip out all the emails that you had that he and you had exchanged with you.
Burt
Please stop.
Melissa
That's. Even though it's more diabolical.
Burt
And why are you helping her?
Unknown Male Caller
Yeah, I'm not. I'm just saying her way wouldn't work.
Linda
I just hope that's good. That's really good. I just. I don't know. 12 hours is, like, a lot of turnaround time and would have. He does something stupid like confronts her on it. I, like, want him to see her there. You know what I mean? That might work.
Melissa
Well, you're not gonna be able to control everything.
Burt
That only happens in the movies. Yeah, these plans only work out flawlessly in the movies or on television.
Melissa
In the movies, she would be dressed up in a costume behind the bartending.
Burt
And watching the whole thing happen.
Unknown Male Caller
Reading a newspaper that she slowly lowers to peer over.
Melissa
Exactly.
Unknown Male Caller
See what is happening.
Burt
Hey, Tina, you're on Q100.
Linda
Hey, guys. How are you?
Burt
All right, thank you.
Linda
My question is, if she's trying to do this anonymously, what's he gonna think when he gets this email from a personal. His personal email from someone knowing him and his girlfriend? He's gonna know that, you know, it's somebody he knows.
Burt
Well, yeah, but it doesn't necessarily have to be her. It could be anybody in his group.
Linda
Could be. But that all that sounds to me is like someone trying to set somebody up.
Burt
And it's obviously coming from a guy because he said, abrah, hey, bro. I think.
Unknown Male Caller
I don't think she cares that it's. That it's like, it doesn't matter that he knows that somebody set him up. Like, I think her thought is, he'll be appreciative of that. And he never has to know it's her. That makes sense.
Linda
Yeah. And I could even do it, like, to avoid that. I could just be like. I could, you know, be like, hey, bro, you know, I don't like to get into your stuff, but another bro of mine was telling me me about this girl that he met, and when I went to her MySpace profile, it.
Melissa
Was your girl bro violation on the overuse of bro.
Unknown Male Caller
Yeah.
Sarah
Just so you know.
Unknown Male Caller
We'Re kidding about all the bro stuff.
Melissa
Like, I mean, like, one bro would work, but 2 Bros is pushing it, and 3 is way unbelievable.
Unknown Male Caller
Suffering from over bro.
Burt
Get a nasty case of over bro. When is the next step supposed to go down?
Linda
I was gonna do it this week. I wasn't sure, you know, but I guess I could make it happen a little faster. Now I'm gonna do it the way you said. I don't know. I just. I don't want it to. She has to show up, you know, otherwise, because once. Once fake guy doesn't show up, the girl's not gonna show up again. Once fake guy stands her up.
Burt
If you say they're. If you say they're not right for each other, aren't they gonna break up anyway and you can be there for them?
Linda
Yeah, but I just want to. Speeds up. Life's short, man. We could die tomorrow.
Melissa
Now, does it speed it up or. What if he doesn't respond? What if they work it out and then it makes them stronger?
Linda
Well, then it wasn't meant to be, but I think. I don't think they would work it out.
Unknown Male Caller
Anybody else want to take it?
Melissa
I. I can't.
Burt
Anyone? What?
Melissa
That's all yours, my friend.
Unknown Male Caller
Set it free.
Burt
Will you call us after the next step here and let us know how it went?
Linda
I will. I will.
Burt
All right, we'll talk to you soon. Bye. Bye. Morning. Q100.
Linda
Good morning. I just wanted to let you guys know that that actually works. I mean, it is. Sounds kind of a little bit psychotic, but I use it on my brother's baby's mama. What I did was tell her that, meet me at this bar, you know, we're gonna meet up. And I had my brother standing right there waiting on her. And then I've also done it to one of my friends, ex girlfriends, you know, I had her send me pictures and stuff. Then I took the messages and forwarded to him. Devious. I know, I know, I know.
Melissa
So you're a serial.
Linda
It was hilarious.
Burt
You're. You're.
Melissa
You do this. You're like a serial MySpace person that.
Linda
Sets people up and has them caught.
Burt
Damn.
Melissa
Wow.
Burt
I'm telling you, the Internet is. The world is not a better place since the Internet got a damn alor. A damn alor the bird show. All right. I have a suspicion, and this is just my own personal observation, that I'm hoping I could either get confirmation on this morning or complete denial. I have a theory here. And nurses can't say it while they're at the hospital, that's for sure. But you could sort of see it from time to time with nurses that I think there's like this bubbling animosity between nurses and doctors. And I think it's because nurses do. Nurses, they bust their ass. I'm not saying doctors don't, but I'm saying, like, nurses put in a good amount of time. I know in watching my wife's delivery, for instance, like, the nurse is there the entire time. She's doing everything. Doctor comes in last minute, Literally last minute, last couple of pushes on our first baby, and game over. Doctor comes in, takes all the credit, takes off, you know, And I'm not sure that it's like that outside of delivery rooms and other areas of the medical industry, but I know I have seen from time to time in hospitals where a nurse, maybe it's a personal thing, or maybe it's more of a generalization, or she just sort of feels like shouldn't get enough credit and the doctor gets. Is like the glory, dude.
Unknown Male Caller
But couldn't it be argued that there are so many. There are more nurses than doctors, so, like, that's their job is to get everything ready, and then the doctor is just essentially coming in to sign off on it. Like, wouldn't that be the argument even.
Burt
If that was the job? That wouldn't mean that the nurses wouldn't feel like they just weren't appreciated. Cause they are working harder.
Melissa
Well, I think it just depends. I think that. I mean, they're two completely different jobs. The doctor is totally responsible on every level for everything happens with that patient. So there's a level of responsibility that the doctor has that the nurse may not have. So, you know, it's not to disregard the level that doctors play. But the nurses certainly do have interaction with the patients more often than the doctors do. In my case, I have a chronic condition. So when you have a chronic condition, you have a specialized doctor and nurses, then there's a closer relationship with them. I haven't experienced that in my time that the nurses and the doctors have resent. There's a resentment because they work so closely together. And the nurses, from what I've seen, feel appreciated by those doctors because they're constantly working together. But I said this earlier. I don't think it's just doctors that don't appreciate nurses. I think society doesn't. Because I think that if you are a person that went to your parents and said, I'm going to medical school, I'm going to go be a nurse, then, you know, people always will question, well, why not just be a doctor?
Unknown Male Caller
Right.
Burt
Why don't you go a little longer, you know, stretch yourself a little bit and really earn?
Melissa
Yeah. And I think that's. I think that they don't. I don't think they get the appreciation from everybody that they deserve, not just the doctors.
Burt
So we kind of sort of call this, like, occupational confessional where we'll put you on the voice disguiser. And you just got. We're not gonna ask you where you work. We're not even gonna ask you what your real name is, how long you've been a nurse. But is there a bubbling kind of animosity towards doctors General, as general rule? Is it there?
Melissa
And does it go both ways? Does it come from the doctors to the nurses, too? And I think that if you're a male nurse, definitely call. Because I think that you talk about being disrespected for what you do and feeling like you're not doing enough, which is ridiculous. My best friend is a nurse, and so is her husband. And so I also have heard that the male nurses get all the tougher jobs. Like, they get all the heavier patients. They have to do all the heavier lifting and that sort of thing. And don't really get any credit for that.
Burt
We will call her Sarah. And she is on the voice disguise her right now. Good morning, Sarah.
Sarah
Hey, guys. How are you doing?
Burt
Good. How are you?
Sarah
I'm good. Can I just ask you to talk to you guys? I listened from the beginning, and I never get through.
Melissa
Thank you.
Sarah
I think I can bring some clarification to all of your questions.
Burt
Okay.
Sarah
All right. Okay. Well, I'll address. First of all, you were talking about, like, the animosity or is there any, like, bubbling jealousy? And I think that one of you guys, I think, Melissa, you said it, that I don't know that they're two different jobs. And so I don't know that I have, like, a jealousy towards doctors. But I think where the tension comes in or where the resentment comes in is that as a nurse, you're in the hospital setting, which is All I can really speak to because that's all I've ever done until recently. You do all this work to help get your patient ready. I did trauma icu, so it was very intense. You have a lot of things going on and the doctors kind of swoop in, as we said, and they kind of take all the credit, which is fine because that's what they do. And they went to school a long time. I have no problem with that. But the way they treat you behind the scenes is what has ultimately led for me to leave the hospital. Because they will in general, and there's a few exceptions, but in general, the way they talk to you, I'm sure these people, a lot of these doctors wouldn't even talk to a dog. The way they talk to the nurse. It's like so condescending, giving us these orders and saying, why did you do this? You need to do this. And then they leave. So in the aftermath, then you have to kind of say, okay, well, I need to do all these things that he said and go check the chart. And they forgot to write the order. So then you have to call them and say, you forgot to write the order. You wanted me to do xyz, but you didn't write the order. And then they're ticked off because you're calling them. So it's more of just the relationship, I think. And again, there's a few exceptions, but for the most part, I've been nurse for a long time and I've worked at some of the best teaching university hospitals on the east. And in general, that's the way they treat you. It's like so condescending. They talk to you horribly and you're just a task oriented profession.
Burt
Okay. All right, thank you very much. That's just the first one. Get the phones lit up with nurses. Good morning. Q100.
Sarah
Hey, how are you?
Burt
I'm okay. You're on the voice disguiser.
Sarah
Good.
Burt
You're a male nurse.
Sarah
Yeah.
Burt
Do you feel any of this anytime?
Sarah
You know, I think it actually depends on which area of the hospital you work in. Because in the emergency room and like in the icu, it seems like the critical care areas, the nurses tend to get along with the doctors a little bit more. Just because there's a lot of emergent things that go on and the nurse has to do the work, just has to get it done without the physician being around. Whereas if you work on the med surg floor, it's kind of a more laid back environment. The patient's there a little Bit longer. And the nurse, really, there's not that much to do as far as immersion, things that need to be done. They give the patient the med, they go by what the orders the doctors wrote, and that's pretty much it. And then if the physician does need to come in, like on the med search floor, they have to call them to get orders. And it seems like that's where the doctors throw more attitude is up on those type of floors, whereas Mercer was not.
Melissa
Have you ever felt a lack of respect for being a nurse?
Sarah
Yeah, definitely. I work at a facility that has med students and has the residents, and the residents are the ones that have the attitude because they are just learning to be doctors. And so you kind of get a little upset because you're like, listen, you snotty little punk, I've been doing this for so many years. And here you are, you know that you know, 10 times more than they do, but they're sitting there, you know, being jerks. And they're probably the ones that seem to get slapped around a little bit for their attitude with the nurses.
Burt
We've said it's kind of the same rule with celebrities in here. If they're on their way up, generally they're really arrogant and standoffish. But if they've already made it, they're cool, right? Totally cool.
Melissa
Yeah.
Burt
Good morning. Jennifer, you're on Q100.
Sarah
Hey, guys. Good morning.
Melissa
Hi.
Burt
You're on the voice disguiser. Go ahead.
Sarah
I don't have to be on the voice disguiser.
Linda
I don't really care. I've been a nurse since 1985, and I've worked in the hospital. I've worked in chronic dialysis. I've worked all over. And nine times out of ten, doctors disrespect nurses. We're the ones who, when we see a problem, we call them and say, this, this. This is going on. They say, oh, yeah, you're right. Maybe we should do this. And then they make it all big like, oh, I fixed them. I made them better. And, you know, you just only do what I say. So. So again, it's that test that's like, so not it at all. I mean, the nurses are the ones who save the lives because they're the ones who are there all the time. And like you said before the doctor came in, oh, two pushes. I delivered the baby. Well, who was the one that was there for all of it? And that's the nurses. And they don't get the respect they deserve.
Burt
So again, it's that taskmaster mentality right?
Melissa
Well, yeah. I mean, it's doctor, write the order and the nurse fulfills it. But it's almost like the. Well, you're here for me, and that's all you're here for. When it really is a profession that should stand on its own. And there's a shortage of nurses. Like, there's been a bubbling shortage of nurses for almost a decade now. So this must be. It's all relative, I think the fact that if I'm not respected and I'm not getting paid what I should be paid, then why am I going into this profession and is one of the most important professions out there?
Burt
Alicia, do you want to be on the Voice disguiser?
Sarah
Yes.
Burt
Okay. You are.
Sarah
Hi. Good morning, Burt.
Linda
Cool.
Sarah
Thank you, guys. Every morning.
Burt
Thank you. Now you have a form. All right, go ahead. You've been waiting for somebody to ask.
Sarah
Well, I left my last job because I transferred from a hospital setting because I wasn't getting the respect that I deserve, and went to an office setting, and in the office setting, a doctor actually threw a freaking chart at me.
Melissa
Really?
Sarah
Yes. It was something about an order that was supposed to be written and faxed to the hospital for a patient, and it was important and it was done. She just didn't look. So out of spite, she threw the chart. And we deal with that every day, all the time. We deal with the patients one on one, face to face, every day. The doctors, all they do is write the orders, and that's what we're supposed to do, go by the orders. It's not fair. It's not fair to us, and it's not fair to our patients, because sometimes they lack on a different type of care that they need. And some of the doctors don't have the compassion. What happened to the compassion in the medical field? What happened to the compassion for the doctors they supposed to have for these patients? And they don't. They just see them as a dollar sign what type of insurance you have. That's it. That's the end of it.
Melissa
Yeah, I mean, the days of the, you know, house calls and stuff are gone, unfortunately, over.
Burt
Yeah, I'd say that we could probably do this for the next two hours if we wanted to. But just to give you kind of an indication of what's going on in the phones, about 75 to 80% of the calls are from nurses saying, yeah, there's not only that bubbling tension going on, but, yeah, it's just that taskmaster mentality and just. They don't get the respect from doctors that they think they deserve. Some assistants were calling us, calling out the nurses, though. Like, it trickles down. Like it trickles down.
Melissa
Like a technician is saying, doctor takes.
Burt
It out of the nurse. Nurse takes it out on the technician. Technician takes it out of the assistant.
Unknown Male Caller
Let's just pay it forward.
Burt
Yeah. The Birch Show. Good morning, Megan.
Linda
Good morning, guys.
Burt
Good morning.
Linda
Yeah. So my best friend, and when I say best friend, let me just clarify before we even start. She's like a sister to me. Like, we have the same age children, and they play together. They do everything together. We do things with our husbands together every month. Once a month, at least, we do things together. So she's more than just my best friend. I just want to clarify that, but. So she's been really strange lately, and I'm kind of getting a feeling that something is not going well in the marriage, and she just won't tell me about it. I haven't heard a thing. She always comes to me with everything and.
Unknown Male Caller
Are you sleeping with her husband?
Linda
Am I. Yeah. No. Okay. No, of course not. But I just don't know what to do because I. I mean, I'm kind of. I'm hurt because I can't help her. Do you know what I mean? Because I'm always there for her, so I'm kind of hurt in that way. But then I'm also hurt that she just isn't coming to me.
Burt
Well, how do you know she's having these problems? You're just assuming.
Linda
Well, not just assuming. I mean, I'm pretty sure, like, I haven't seen her husband in probably, like, at least two weeks. I haven't seen him at all. And we. Like I was saying, we always have these monthly dinners that we all go out together. We get, like, one babysitter for the kids, and we all go out to dinner together. And we haven't done that in two months, at least. And so I said that the other day. I was like, oh, you know, we haven't done one of these ways to get together. That's it. You know, this week we're gonna do something. And she ended up coming, and she came alone. Her husband wasn't like her. And so, you know, of course, obviously, that's weird. Although it's a couple's dinner. So she said that he was sick. I was like, okay, you know, whatever. He's sick. My husband and I get home and his car isn't even in the driveway.
Unknown Male Caller
Maybe he went to the pharmacy.
Linda
Yeah. Cause that's a good place to hang out. I'm Getting a very strange feeling because he's sick.
Melissa
Have you asked her if everything's okay?
Linda
Yeah, and she said, yeah, she's very different. She's very distant and very kind of quiet lately. And of course, I mean, I've asked her, you know, if there's anything going on and she's. No, everything's fine. She just. She doesn't say anything. I'm not sure what to do.
Melissa
Now you focus on this couple's dinner. How much one on one time do y' all hang out together?
Linda
A lot. I mean, we. We're like one family. Like, we did recently put up new fencing and we didn't put the part that divides our homes. We left that unfenced. So we have like one big family yard. I mean, she's like. She's like a part of my family. You know, we spend time together all the time. Like, her kids will eat over at my house all the time, like a couple times a week and vice versa. It's just very like, we're like one family.
Melissa
Well, I think that that might be a clue for me is the fact that if you are just one big unit. So it's not you two are best friends and that, you know, you kind of confide in each other and you hang out in your husband's or your husband's. But what's most important is you are best friends with where every language you're speaking is. We. We is a unit. We is a huge full unit. So if she has a problem or is having problems in her marriage, I could see where she would go to somebody else outside this unit. Because it doesn't seem like it's built around your friendship. It's around your family's. You know what I mean?
Linda
Yeah, that makes sense.
Burt
Good morning, Monica, you're on Q100.
Linda
Good morning. Morning, Melissa, You're, I think, right on. And I wanted to also share having been a woman who had gone through a divorce in my 20s, that's a very, very specific experience. And you don't know how you'll handle it until you go through it. And I found myself not telling anybody. Not my best friend, not my mom, not anybody. Because it's something that until you really want to work it out, you don't want to be premature and say we're having problems. The other thing is she is like your family, which means she doesn't want to turn. Probably turn you against her husband at all or prematurely. And I wouldn't take it as a personal affront in any way. I think it's just how she's dealing with it, probably. And the more you can be there for her in a very general way, I think the better friend you'll be. I had a dear, dear friend that went through breast cancer, and I never knew it. And I just said, hey, I wish I could have been there for you, but I understand that's your choice.
Burt
So some people just handle, choose. Like, I think my wife is more of a person that would bring her friends in and talk about it, whereas I would handle it by myself. I don't want to burden anybody with it. I don't want to talk about it with anybody. I want to just fight the inner fight by myself, which is probably the unhealthier way to do it. But some people just fight the fight themselves in their own head.
Melissa
And I think the friend selection, that sometimes you don't want the repercussions for what you're about to say. So sometimes it's easier to tell a friend, I mean, a person who's not quite your closest friend, about something traumatic. So, like the last caller said, in case it works out, then you know, there's no repercussions to what you said or you don't want. She's a part of this perfect family unit that the two of you have created that she doesn't want maybe her own reputation with you to be damaged, so she wants to go to somebody else, which is not an insult. It's just. Yeah, I do think it is how she's handling it. And you just have to be there for her, however she is.
Burt
Good morning, Annie. You're on The Burt Show Q100.
Linda
Hi. I just wanted to say that, like, she doesn't have to tell you. If she doesn't want to tell you, then she's not going to tell you. It's really none of your business anyway.
Unknown Male Caller
Hey, Annie. How old are you?
Linda
I am 12.
Burt
Does she need her opinions any less valid?
Melissa
No, your opinion was just as valid.
Linda
We were just curious.
Burt
Like, Annie, how would you handle this situation if you're.
Linda
You know, it happens to me, like, all the time. I really don't care. They don't have to tell me. Of course. I'm gonna find out anyway, but.
Burt
So, like, if your best friend had a secret and she was telling other people and not you, you wouldn't be offended by that?
Linda
Not really.
Melissa
Okay.
Burt
Okay.
Linda
Like, she doesn't have to tell me. Like, if she wants to tell me, then she'll tell me, but I'm gonna find out anyway, so it doesn't really matter.
Melissa
We don't know that her friend has told anybody about anything. She's just not sharing it with her. So it may be like what Bert said.
Linda
It's more. Because it's not that I. You know, it's more that I just. I mean, I feel like I have. No, it's just a very helpless feeling because I just. She's my best friend and I want to be able to help her. And I know she's going through something. It's not so much that I'm mad that she, you know, I'm a little bit hurt because, I mean, we are so close. But it's more that I just. I really want to help her. I want to be there with her. But I never saw it the way you guys are saying it, and that makes sense. She doesn't want to bring us into it right now because just in case, if it does work out or she just doesn't want to ruin. That makes sense.
Melissa
And when you really want to help somebody, you have to help them on their terms, not your terms. So you can't force her to let you help her. You know what I mean?
Linda
Yeah. Yeah.
Burt
Let me just take one or two more calls. Kenya, good morning. You're on Q100.
Linda
Good morning, bird Show. I was just calling to say that it sounds. I kind of agree partially with the 12 year old.
Sarah
It's a bit selfish on her part.
Linda
To want her to tell her. And I understand you wanting to help her, but if she's your best friend, she's going to tell you if she wants you to know. And the great thing about being a friend and being a best friend is knowing when to step to the side, knowing when to be quiet, knowing when to just let situations happen. That's the good thing about having really, really good friends in your life, is knowing when to be the friend, knowing when to just shut up, knowing when to listen, knowing when to talk, all that good stuff. So just step aside, step outside of yourself for a second, and if she wants to tell you, she'll tell you. If she doesn't, she doesn't. But it shouldn't affect your relationship one way or another.
Burt
Do you really want to help her or do you just want to be involved just in the. No, I don't know where that came from or. Yeah. Do you just want to be, like, part of the inner circle and be part of the whole gossipy, rumor y thing?
Linda
No. No, because I'm not like that. I'm really not. So I just want to. I want to help her. You know, she's going through a tough time, but.
Unknown Male Caller
But maybe.
Linda
Maybe step aside if, you know, I'll be there if she needs me, but I just won't. I won't bring it up anymore, I guess.
Unknown Male Caller
But maybe you helping her is you not knowing. Like, maybe a lot of people do know, and you're the one who doesn't, so everything's normal.
Linda
Yeah, maybe.
Melissa
Mm. You know, I think a lot of people feel, too. If you know, then your husband will know.
Burt
And maybe she's just trying to keep this thing all to herself.
Linda
Yeah.
Burt
Hey, the bird show.
Podcast: The Bert Show
Episode: Full Show PT 2: Tuesday, February 3 [Vault]
Date: February 3, 2026
Theme: A whirlwind of real-life relationship drama, a confessional look at the tension between nurses and doctors, and heart-to-heart discussions on friendship boundaries—all delivered with The Bert Show's trademark humor and authenticity.
This episode delivers on its promise of being both real and funny, balancing honest confession with lighthearted commentary and listener contributions. It’s a window into the messy, authentic side of human connections—romantic, professional, and platonic.