Full Show PT 3: Monday, February 16

Summary

The Bert Show – Full Show PT 3: Monday, February 16 (2026)

Episode Overview

This episode of The Bert Show is a classic blend of humor, real-life dilemmas, and listener interaction. The three main segments of the show cover:

1. An elaborate plan to find a wife for listener Trey, sparked by his friend Joel, who preemptively sent out wedding save-the-dates.
2. A lively discussion on open marriages, using Will and Jada Pinkett Smith's relationship as the jumping-off point, with listeners sharing their own experiences.
3. A workplace debate about whether to hire the more attractive or more qualified receptionist, with calls and candid crew commentary.

Below is a detailed, time-stamped summary highlighting key moments, memorable quotes, and core discussions.

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1. Trey’s “Save-the-Date” Bachelor Quest

Segment Start: 01:15

Premise

Trey’s best friend, Joel, is tired of hearing Trey claim “this is the year” he’ll get married. To force his hand, Joel sends out save-the-date wedding invites – for a wedding Trey hasn’t even set up (much less a bride for!).

Key Discussion Points:

• Joel’s Intervention:
  Joel signs Trey up for multiple dating websites and organizes a pseudo-“Bachelor” competition, involving screening and matchmaking. Joel jokes:

  “I’ve signed him up on Facebook, MySpace, Match.com, eHarmony, all of them.” (02:02)

• Trey’s Character:
  Joel describes Trey as the life of the party, the guy who’d be “twelve rows deep in a costume, wasted at 9 AM” at his kid’s game.

  “He’s a handful... It’s going to take a certain type of person.” (02:24)

• Trey Responds on Air:
  Having only just learned about the grand plan, Trey takes it in stride:

  “I guess it’s kind of escalated to this... No more procrastinating.” (06:26)
  He sets January 17 as his wedding date, under the show's supervision.

• Show Commitment:
  The cast debates if they have the attention span to follow this six-month-long story. Ultimately, they’re in, joking about who’ll play what role in the Vegas wedding.

  Host: “Does it have enough legs for six months, y’all?” (13:03)

• Women Call In Immediately:
  Amy, 33 and divorced, is one of several potential matches, intrigued by Trey’s humor:

  “I love hanging out with people who make me laugh... that’s what has piqued my interest.” (10:44)

• Criteria for Trey's Partner:
  Trey says he’s open:

  “I’m not particular. Just someone I can get along with, think chemistry.” (08:27)

Notable & Memorable Moments

• The “Bachelor”-style pitch for vetting possible brides.
• Joking about Trey's “chemistry over age” and his willingness to trust the process.
• Bert Show hosts discussing being groomsmen, bridesmaids, and officiants (“I’m an ordained minister, so actually…” – Jeff, 14:01).

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2. Open Marriages and Relationship Boundaries

Segment Start: 15:45

Premise

Will Smith and Jada Pinkett Smith reveal their open marriage agreement. The team unpacks the logic, psychology, and awkwardness that might result, transitioning smoothly into candid listener calls.

Key Discussion Points:

• Will & Jada’s Arrangement:

  “You don’t avoid what’s now... if it came down to it, then one would say to the other, look, I need to have sex with somebody and now I’m going to, and I’m not going to if you don’t approve of it.” (15:45, quoting Will Smith)

• Psychological Theory:
  Host speculates that having permission removes the temptation:

  “So the theory here is that if you offer [freedom], they never actually take you up on it.” (17:13)

• Parallel with Parenting & Boundaries:
  Jeff draws parallels with relaxed parenting about cursing, reducing allure through transparency.

• Listener Stories:
  Callers share their own “open” arrangements:

  • Caller #1: Approval for outside partners is required, but he’s never taken the opportunity because “it would still feel like I was cheating.” (21:37)
  • Caller #2: His wife gave him a “free one night stand card,” which he declined.

    “I gave it back to her because I care too much about her.” (22:35)

  • Caller #3: Had a list of approved women, acted on it once, but in hindsight regrets it.

    “At the time, yeah. But no, not now.” (26:31)

• Reflections on Gender & Double-Standards:
  The show notes most men don’t act on the “free pass,” questioning whether the offer in itself is a psychological deterrent.

Memorable Quotes

• “If you cheated or if you slept with somebody else, would you really tell your wife beforehand?”
  “Of course. She’s gonna find out anyway.” (21:49)
• “The bottom line is that you feel freer... temptation is not there anymore because you got the green light.” (22:01)
• “You just have to be careful about the offers that you make, right?” (28:04)

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3. Receptionist Hiring Debate: Looks vs. Qualifications

Segment Start: 29:15

Premise

A listener email sets the cast into a debate: Should a company hire a more attractive receptionist with a good resume, or a more qualified but less attractive candidate?

Key Discussion Points:

• First Impressions:

  Jen: “That is your first impression... whether that’s a doctor’s office or a retail store, wherever it is.” (31:27)

• Industry Expectations:
  Stephanie, a caller who works in promotional staffing:

  “One of the qualifications is that you have to be an attractive person because what you look like is the first thing that people see.” (34:42)

• Image & Professionalism:
  The group discusses “polish” versus natural attractiveness; Jen and Katie (caller) agree grooming and presentation matter even more than innate looks.

• Discrimination Both Ways:
  Attractive Hannah shares that her looks sometimes make employers doubt her competence, forcing her to “dress down” at interviews:

  “Sometimes it’s hard to get the job even when you’re pretty or when you’re not pretty.” (38:29)

• Societal Critique:
  Amy, disappointed with the societal focus on looks asks:

  “Where are unattractive people supposed to go?” (41:14)

• Final Thoughts:
  Most cast agree that for a receptionist, looks/presentation may outweigh a minor gap in experience given the public-facing nature of the job, but presentation can be improved by anyone with the right effort.

Notable Quotes

• “Better looking people are better.” – Jeff, sarcastically (43:47)
• “It’s not necessarily who’s naturally more attractive... it’s just who presents themself the best and who can handle the job.” – Jen (43:10)

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Episode Highlights & Tone

• Fast-paced, witty banter with a classic morning radio vibe: playful, honest, sometimes irreverent.
• Willingness to tackle awkward and nuanced relationship and workplace realities.
• Encouragement of callers to share personal stories, creating a sense of shared experience and authenticity.
• Showcases the everyday struggles and decisions facing real people, from dating to marriage to workplace dilemmas.

Memorable Closing Moment:

• Recurring jokes about who will play what role in Trey’s hypothetical Vegas wedding, ending with:

  “Better looking people are better.” (43:47)

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Key Timestamps

• 01:15: Trey’s “Bachelor” plan introduced
• 04:43: Trey goes on-air, surprised and game for the wedding mission
• 10:44: Caller Amy expresses interest in Trey
• 15:45: Will & Jada’s open marriage sparks debate
• 22:01–27:48: Multiple callers share perspectives on open marriage “free passes”
• 29:15: Listener email about hiring a receptionist kicks off the looks-vs-qualifications debate
• 34:42: Staffing industry perspective on appearance and hiring
• 38:29: Attractive caller Hannah describes “dressing down” for interviews
• 41:14: Caller Amy questions the fairness of beauty standards in hiring
• 43:10–43:47: Hosts reluctantly agree they'd probably hire the more attractive candidate for a receptionist

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Overall, The Bert Show delivers on its promise: honest, funny, and oh-so-relatable. Whether orchestrating a wedding for a bachelor or unpacking open marriage taboos and workplace biases, the crew never shies from real talk—or a good laugh.

Transcript

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[Host (possibly 'Burcha' or 'Birch')]

Hey, the Birch show. No shortage of women lining up already. I told you to go out with Trey. I told you sight unseen.

[Rocket Money Announcer]

The radio bachelor.

[Host (possibly 'Burcha' or 'Birch')]

Sorta could be. We will talk more about Trey and his best friend Joel's idea. His idea is he's got to save the date for his best friend. He's sick of hearing his best friend Trey say, this is the year I'm getting married. I'm gonna find a girl. This is the year. So what Trey has done is he has gone out and he has already sent out the save the dates for.

[Jen]

Joel has done that for Tre.

[Host (possibly 'Burcha' or 'Birch')]

Yeah. Joel has done a fortray for a Save the date for a wedding in January. All it's missing is the girl. Joel, this is your idea. So what are we missing here? What else do you need to add before we get Trey on and really sort of like contemplate if this is something we want to do or not?

[Joel]

You know, I think one of the things that we kind of chatted with some of his buddies about is, you know, we need to set this up a lot like the Bachelor in the fact that, you know, kind of have a screening process. I've signed him up on Facebook, MySpace, Match.com, eHarmony, all of them. So, you know, one of the things that we want to do is we want to see, you know, kind of.

[Jeff]

Starts sexy encounter tonight. Dot com.

[Joel]

Yeah, exactly. He's already on that one. But we want to figure out a way to kind of screen who's coming in and figure out, you know, who's obviously, because it's going to take a certain type of person that will accept Trey because he is, he's a handful, he's a great guy, but you know, he's. He's somebody that. How long have the two that you've been fit.

[Jeff]

How long have you two been dating?

[Joel]

About six and a half years, on and off.

[Host (possibly 'Burcha' or 'Birch')]

Is this your way of breaking up with him without really breaking up with him? You're just finding a girl for him?

[Jeff]

Well, you've got a girlfriend. You're like, look, you can't always be there. Dupree.

[Joel]

This is my way of quilting all those rumors in Atlanta.

[Jen]

Do you think that he wants someone like him or opposite of him? Is it like gonna be an opposites attract type of thing? Because if he's like this, you know, wild, crazy out there personality, like does he want somebody who also likes the spotlight or someone who would just give him the spotlight all the time?

[Joel]

You know, I think he needs somebody to share the spotlight. I mean, you can't date somebody that's completely opposite of Trey because it's, it doesn't work. But he also can't have somebody that wants all the attention.

[Jeff]

Is it to Trey? You're not wearing a diaper out.

[Host (possibly 'Burcha' or 'Birch')]

Put the neck brace away. It was funny a year ago.

[Jeff]

Oh my God, another mustache. Are you kidding me?

[Joel]

He's the guy that in 10 years is at his 12 year old's football game and 12 rows deep in the stadium in a costume, completely wasted at 9 o' clock in the morning. So if you can deal with that.

[Jeff]

You just said, just for the record, that 10 years from now he'll be at his 12 year old's football game.

[Joel]

I'm not really good at math.

[Jeff]

I was gonna say either you're screwing up math or he's got a secret that you should tell us.

[Jen]

He doesn't have kids, right?

[Joel]

No, he's. No kids. Yeah, never been married, never been engaged. So 35 and a virgin. Yes, completely.

[Host (possibly 'Burcha' or 'Birch')]

Now, Jen, your question was we got to hear from Trey here just to make sure he's into this.

[Jen]

Yeah, like if a girl is going to sign up to do this, we have to know he really is going to get married. January 17, 2009.

[Host (possibly 'Burcha' or 'Birch')]

Hey, Trey.

[Trey]

Good morning.

[Host (possibly 'Burcha' or 'Birch')]

Good morning. How are you?

[Trey]

I'm doing okay. Hey, Joel, how's it going?

[Joel]

Hey, Trey, how's it going?

[Trey]

Apparently you went to the radio station.

[Joel]

Welcome to the radio.

[Host (possibly 'Burcha' or 'Birch')]

Did you know ruin your life. Did you know he was coming in today?

[Trey]

I didn't know he was coming in, but I will commend the bird show because you've got thousands of listeners, because I've gotten about 30 texts so far for people that have heard Joel on the radio. So I caught the tail end of this, actually.

[Host (possibly 'Burcha' or 'Birch')]

It's one person that we have text over and over and over again or call others over and over again.

[Jeff]

We just have a box of 30 phones here and a couple of interns.

[Host (possibly 'Burcha' or 'Birch')]

So Joel came in this morning and he presented us with this idea that he's so sick of hearing you say, woe is me, Woe is me. Woe is me. I need to find a girl. I need to get married this year. That he has a save the date for you out in Vegas in January. You know about that, right?

[Trey]

Yes, now I do. Now I do. I had mentioned that. Yeah, I want to get married. I'm gonna get married in January. And I think he's kind of taking this full throttle now, which is kind of exciting. I guess that's one way to do it.

[Jeff]

How many times in your relationship with him have you said that you're going to get married by whatever the date is, whether it's, I want to get married by the end of the year, I'm going to get married next year.

[Trey]

Well, I've kind of said over the past few years, this is the year. But the other day we were. We were joking around and I was like, let's do it January. Let's just do it, you know, and that'll force me to get my act together and figure something out. And then I guess it's kind of escalated to this.

[Host (possibly 'Burcha' or 'Birch')]

So the theory here is that if you save a date, like if you have a specific date in your mind, like a goal date, that you'll start looking more seriously into a commitment rather than have it open ended, right?

[Trey]

Well, yes.

[Jen]

No more procrastinating.

[Trey]

No more procrastinating. That's kind of the deal. It's time to get serious and start. It's time to grow up, guys.

[Jen]

So why do you want to get married?

[Trey]

I think that. I think it's time to get married. I mean, I'm 35, I've dated and got that out of my system. And I want a family eventually. And I'm not getting any younger. And I can't keep dating Joel anymore. So I gotta find a girl and get married.

[Host (possibly 'Burcha' or 'Birch')]

Joel has really kind of messed this whole thing up with Molly, hasn't he? Because things are going so well.

[Trey]

Maybe it should be them. Gets married in January.

[Jeff]

No, we can probably find a second Elvis when we're in Vegas.

[Host (possibly 'Burcha' or 'Birch')]

So, Joe, what else do we need to know? I mean, Jen's concern with you, Trey, was that you have to be 100% on board if we're going to do this, because this isn't like a three day segment for us. This would be us following you along. This would be us trying to set you up with dates. And we're not. We've got like ADD on this show, specifically me. So if we do this for six months, we need to know that you're totally into it and that you're willing to commit to marrying somebody on that date in January.

[Trey]

Fine, let's do it next weekend. No, Yeah, I will get married on January 17. I will do that. But what happens between now and then is a little scary. But I will commit to getting married on the 17th of January. I think that gives me enough time to find somebody that's I can marry. I mean, you hear about the people on your show. The call up and met someone on Friday, got married on Monday. I've been together for 96 years, so I'm believing in that. That's what I'm believing in. Goal setting as well.

[Host (possibly 'Burcha' or 'Birch')]

Okay.

[Jeff]

It's using the secret.

[Trey]

Yeah, I'm gonna buy that book too.

[Jen]

Watch the dvd, it's better.

[Jeff]

Yeah.

[Host (possibly 'Burcha' or 'Birch')]

Is there anything else you guys want to ask Trey before I let him go?

[Jen]

I mean, I think it's done, right?

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We need to know what kind of girls he's into.

[Jeff]

That's not important.

[Trey]

I think Jeff's out to get me here. Just normal girls. I'm not particular. I'm not into one type or another. Just someone that I can get along with, think chemistry. If I find somebody with good chemistry that made me laugh a little bit that I find attractive, I think we're good to go.

[Host (possibly 'Burcha' or 'Birch')]

I think some of these women are going to weed themselves out eventually. When we figure out what's going on with our website and we link on over to Trey's MySpace page and Facebook and all that and the videos, some of you women that are listening right now going, this guy's a great catch, are gonna look at it and you're gonna Go. He's a great catch for somebody else because he. It's gonna. It's gonna take a specific woman. I mean, based on what these guys like to do and how goofy they are and stuff, it's gonna take a specific woman.

[Joel]

But on that, I think somebody's gonna go on your website, look at the video and go, oh, my God, this is. This is my dream guy. I mean, not anybody in this room, obviously. Maybe Jeff. But, I mean, he's obviously. You'll see by the. And those of you who have hung out with him or seen him dancing in a speedo on top of his bus on the Petrie road race or, you know, you're welcome. Seeing all the stupid things that he does on a regular basis. There are plenty of girls out there that will chase him down.

[Host (possibly 'Burcha' or 'Birch')]

Absolutely. Absolutely. I was literally. It was 5:15 this morning, and I was watching some of these videos, and I was laughing out loud at 5:15 this morning. So if I was a woman, I'd be totally into, you know?

[Trey]

Yeah. If you're a girl and you like to laugh, that's cool. If you're into looks, don't go to my.

[Joel]

Setup.

[Jen]

I think Wendy does pose a good question, though. I mean, you said regular girl, but, like, are you looking, like age, age range?

[Trey]

Age doesn't really matter. I mean, I'm kind of right there in the middle, I guess. Or, I mean, you know, 65 and up might be a little difficult, but, you know, whatever. It's more of. It's more of the chemistry, I think, than, you know, specific age. I mean, obviously I'm 35, so they have to be somewhat mature. Even though I'm not to carry this relationship, but, you know, it's just, you see somebody you're into, I guess you go with it. I don't know.

[Host (possibly 'Burcha' or 'Birch')]

Again, there are no shortage of calls to go out with them. Hey, Amy, you're on Q100.

[Caller]

Good morning.

[Host (possibly 'Burcha' or 'Birch')]

Good morning.

[Caller]

Well, I have to say that this has really piqued my interest. I'm 33, divorced. I've been divorced for five years. I don't do a lot of dating because I don't meet people that I feel are worth my time. I love hanging out with people who make me laugh. That is the best. And that part is what has piqued my interest, because he's apparently just a blast to be around.

[Host (possibly 'Burcha' or 'Birch')]

Now, from our standpoint, if we're batting this around a little bit to see if it's something that we want to do, the key for us, what she Said right there, if she's right for him or not, is he's piqued my interest. So, ratings wise, it would be good for us. And that's what we gotta think about.

[Trey]

I'm just doing this for you guys.

[Host (possibly 'Burcha' or 'Birch')]

You're nothing but a piece of meat to us.

[Jen]

Thank you, Trey. You are gonna be somebody. Sleepless in Seattle, by the way.

[Trey]

Fair enough.

[Jeff]

What does that mean?

[Jen]

Don't you remember the movie?

[Host (possibly 'Burcha' or 'Birch')]

Somebody's listening right now.

[Jen]

She heard him on the radio. Yeah, man, you haven't watched it 400 times, like, every girl.

[Caller]

I haven't even seen it.

[Jen]

What? I haven't. Wendy, you're not allowed to be a girl if you haven't seen Sleepless in Seattle. I haven't seen Sleepless.

[Trey]

Joel's seen it a thousand times.

[Host (possibly 'Burcha' or 'Birch')]

We watched it together, I'm assuming a couple of dozen times.

[Joel]

Yeah, we watched that one in the bathtub with candles.

[Host (possibly 'Burcha' or 'Birch')]

All right, so what's our next step here? Do we wait until we can get a link on up to. Well, I don't even think we need that. Like, do we want to.

[Jen]

I think we just figure out how we're gonna do it. Are we gonna do it bachelor slash bachelorette style? Like, are we gonna narrow down the top 25 and then narrow those down over time?

[Jeff]

Well, we don't have to brainstorm it now. I think we have a conversation about it, and then let's circle back as the people who like meetings like to say, let's circle back here this time next week, and we'll get caught up to where we are, and we'll all be on the same page. Circle back.

[Joel]

I'd like to kind of up the ante a little bit and. And say, why don't we open this up to the Birchill community and let them vote on who's gonna.

[Host (possibly 'Burcha' or 'Birch')]

Well, that's a great idea. That would be, on any other given day, a great idea. But our website is so jacked up right now.

[Joel]

But over the course of time, though.

[Host (possibly 'Burcha' or 'Birch')]

Over the next couple of days, I.

[Jeff]

Think if we're gonna do this, we do it for real. Like, I don't. I think we let Trey pick the girl. I just think.

[Trey]

Thanks.

[Host (possibly 'Burcha' or 'Birch')]

I don't know about that, guys.

[Jeff]

I think we work together to narrow it down. Yeah.

[Jen]

I think we narrow down the pool, and then we do it. Like.

[Host (possibly 'Burcha' or 'Birch')]

Yeah. I think the details are inconsequential now. I think what we just have to agree on right now is a. Do we want to roll with this? Does it have enough legs for six Months, y'. All. I know. You know how we are.

[Jen]

I know how you are.

[Host (possibly 'Burcha' or 'Birch')]

Does how I am. Is this gonna be entertaining for all of us and for our listeners for six months, is the question?

[Jen]

I think so. I think so. I think the fact that the date is set. Joel's reserved the rooms. He's printed the save the dates. I mean, I think that that is, like, what's making it more real. I mean, we're not talking about, you know, me. Yeah. I want to find her. And this is, like, sort of like this loose, you know, like, unpredictable ending. Like, the ending is already set. It's just between here and there. And I think that that's what will keep our interest in it. And because you know him and like him and think that he's really funny.

[Joel]

And you're gonna be a groomsman, and.

[Jen]

I'm gonna be in the wedding, and.

[Host (possibly 'Burcha' or 'Birch')]

It'S a reason to go to Vegas. So I'm in.

[Jen]

And it's a reason. Yeah.

[Trey]

Oh, yeah.

[Host (possibly 'Burcha' or 'Birch')]

Yes.

[Jen]

Can I be a bridesmaid?

[Jeff]

Now we're all in.

[Caller]

I want to be the flower girl.

[Jeff]

I'm an ordained minister, so actually.

[Host (possibly 'Burcha' or 'Birch')]

Oh, really?

[Joel]

I was going to say Joby's going to. Is going to get ordained. So basically, the premise is, on the 17th, we show up in the lobby of the hotel at 5. 6pm we go to dinner. Everybody absolutely has to dress up in costume. Then we go get completely plowed, and then we're going to reserve. The rooms are reserved around 5am the next morning. So we actually won't get married until 5am on Sunday.

[Host (possibly 'Burcha' or 'Birch')]

Beautiful. Now, the key for me here, Trey, is once again, I need to hear the words come out of your mouth that you will get married on that date.

[Trey]

I will get married on that date.

[Host (possibly 'Burcha' or 'Birch')]

Then this is done for me. Hey, the Birch Show.

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[Jen]

So Will Smith and Jada Pinkett Smith, husband and wife, each with somebody else. Now they've said that the secret to the success of their 11 year marriage is that they have an open relationship. And Will Smith is talking to Reveal magazine and he says, quote, our perspective is you don't avoid what's now and you're going to be attracted to people. And if it came down to it, then one would say to the other, look, I need to have sex with somebody and now I'm going to. And I'm not going to if you don't approve of it. Will Smith says that their open policy has been in place from day one in their ten year marriage.

[Host (possibly 'Burcha' or 'Birch')]

Pretty much has to be.

[Jeff]

Don't you think how many Atlanta people are upset that they didn't know that about Will when he was here for our concert a couple Christmases ago?

[Host (possibly 'Burcha' or 'Birch')]

And you could have, you could have.

[Jeff]

Hooked up, you could have made a move. But you're probably respectful of Jada. Everything was cool. Saw him at Philips, Reyna or wherever he hung out afterwards and he'd go to Vision. I think afterwards something like you may have saw him, that's what he did.

[Jen]

I forgot about that.

[Jeff]

High fived him at the club. But you could have, you were thinking.

[Host (possibly 'Burcha' or 'Birch')]

To yourself, if there just wasn't Jada, I could look up, I could get that. Well, you could have anyway.

[Jen]

Yeah, you could have. But she would have had to know about it first. Now Will Smith said in our marriage vows we didn't say forsaking all others, we said, you will never hear I did something afterwards because if that happens, the relationship is destroyed. So other things he says are important in his relationship he says he keeps in shape for his little firecracker Jada. So he hits the gym, looks good. He said the look in her eyes and communications is what has kept them together for 11 years.

[Host (possibly 'Burcha' or 'Birch')]

You know, I'm listening to you tell the story and I have a question to ask here. I'm wondering if there's anybody listening that is in the same type marriage right now, but you've never taken advantage of the offer. So like in my mind this is how it plays out is that Jada thinks this is Jada's idea. And she thinks, look, when you have the keys to the kingdom, when you hide those from somebody, all of a sudden you need. It's like it becomes this real prize. So the theory here is that if you offer up, look, go ahead. You know, we've got an open marriage right now. If you want to sleep with other women, I don't want you to feel guilty about it. Just tell me about it first. So he feels free to go ahead and sleep with other women, but he never takes her up on it.

[Jen]

So it's just because the offer is there, it seems less inviting right now.

[Host (possibly 'Burcha' or 'Birch')]

I'm totally fabricating this. So who knows if this is the case? So for just.

[Jen]

Just conversation's sake.

[Host (possibly 'Burcha' or 'Birch')]

For conversation's sake.

[Jeff]

Some parents do this with cussing around their kids. Like, if you don't make a huge deal about cuss words and swearing, then the kid doesn't realize that it's a big deal to use those words, so doesn't use them any more than you would use regular words. You know what I'm saying?

[Host (possibly 'Burcha' or 'Birch')]

So if you're in this kind of relationship, and I guess I'm specifically maybe even talking to men, and your wife has said, look, if you want to sleep around, look, I understand guys. Maybe her theory is it's human nature. I mean, guys need to have sex with more than one woman. It's human nature. I understand it. I don't want to take that away from her human nature. But you as a guy have never taken her up on it because the offer has been there.

[Jeff]

If you want to call in for anything else, too, the lines are wide open.

[Host (possibly 'Burcha' or 'Birch')]

I don't think we'll get any calls on it. I really don't.

[Jen]

Because you think if the offer is there, they would have taken them up on it, especially the guys. I wonder if the offers just aren't there.

[Host (possibly 'Burcha' or 'Birch')]

I wonder if the offer was there from Jada or from whomever. And the agreement is that you have to tell the wife before you sleep with another woman, but you are allowed to do it. My hunch is that guys still do it and still don't tell the wife.

[Jen]

That he, even though he has the.

[Host (possibly 'Burcha' or 'Birch')]

Open door policy, even has the open door policy. I still don't think you have to.

[Jen]

Well, don't they both?

[Host (possibly 'Burcha' or 'Birch')]

I don't think he would. They both do. I'm just assuming that what's fascinating, it's.

[Jeff]

Not based on fact, is the very first time that it comes up, like whoever the first person is. That has to go to the other. Hey, Jada, you know that thing we talked about? And then, cuz you got it, there's gonna be some anger that. Oh, yeah. So you're real quick to act on that. We haven't even been married a year and a half. You already found a girl you want.

[Host (possibly 'Burcha' or 'Birch')]

To be with, and then she's gonna run down the girl that you're. You're gonna hook up with, right? You kidding me, right?

[Jen]

She's gotta find out what she looks.

[Host (possibly 'Burcha' or 'Birch')]

Like, cousin, that girl that hoe better looking than me. Do what you got to do.

[Jeff]

Or as we call it, she's gonna get all Shirley Franklin in her face. Hey, Curtis, I'm seeing the Philadelphia side of me.

[Host (possibly 'Burcha' or 'Birch')]

Hey, Curtis, do you want to be on the voice disguiser? Just a quick yes or no?

[Trey]

No, I'm good.

[Host (possibly 'Burcha' or 'Birch')]

Okay. So you have one of these kind of marriages?

[Trey]

Yeah, actually, my wife and I have an approved list. They have to be approved before.

[Jen]

What makes them approved or not approved?

[Trey]

She has to approve of them.

[Jeff]

How does the approval process go?

[Trey]

She just has to know them and know they're not like a slut and sleep around.

[Host (possibly 'Burcha' or 'Birch')]

So do you, like, have. Will you call, like a dinner with your wife and this potential sex partner and they all sit down and y' all talk, and then your wife either gives the green light or red light.

[Trey]

Well, she'll say. She'll just say if we're around somebody, she'll know. And she'll say, you know, you can go ahead if you want to.

[Jen]

Really? And there's no jealousy issues afterwards?

[Trey]

No.

[Host (possibly 'Burcha' or 'Birch')]

Have you ever taken her up on the offer?

[Trey]

I haven't yet, but she's. She's pushed me to, and I've never done it, but I. But she's pushed me towards, like, a certain friend of ours.

[Jen]

Wow.

[Trey]

Go ahead, Go ahead. You know, but I haven't done it yet.

[Host (possibly 'Burcha' or 'Birch')]

And how long has this agreement been in place between the two of you?

[Trey]

About two years. We've been married. We've been married for five years. We've been together for seven.

[Host (possibly 'Burcha' or 'Birch')]

And I'm just trying to get to something here. The fact that she made the offer, does it make sleeping around less appealing?

[Trey]

It makes it less appealing. It does, I guess. I don't know. I mean, to me, would still feel like I was cheating on my wife.

[Host (possibly 'Burcha' or 'Birch')]

If you. If you cheated or if you slept with somebody else, would you really tell your wife beforehand?

[Trey]

Of course.

[Host (possibly 'Burcha' or 'Birch')]

You would have to.

[Trey]

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, she's gonna find out anyway.

[Host (possibly 'Burcha' or 'Birch')]

But the Bottom line here is that you feel freer and you don't. I mean, you feel like temptations not there, temptations not there anymore because you got the green light.

[Trey]

Yeah. And it kind of just takes the temptation away, you know?

[Host (possibly 'Burcha' or 'Birch')]

That is interesting.

[Jen]

Funny psychology trick.

[Host (possibly 'Burcha' or 'Birch')]

If you're listening to the show, be very careful with this information.

[Jeff]

Yeah, well, you know better.

[Host (possibly 'Burcha' or 'Birch')]

Know your husband really well.

[Jeff]

Wonder how many couples are gonna go home tonight and say, did you hear the Birch show this morning?

[Host (possibly 'Burcha' or 'Birch')]

Good morning, Michael. You're on Q100. Do you want to be on the Voice Disguiser?

[Caller]

Nah.

[Host (possibly 'Burcha' or 'Birch')]

Okay, so you and your wife have the same agreement?

[Trey]

Yeah, she's given me a free one night stand card, but I gave it back to her because I care too much about her. She said that if I used it that I would not have to tell her about it. She just didn't want to know about it.

[Host (possibly 'Burcha' or 'Birch')]

And how long have you been married?

[Trey]

Two years, the fourth of next month.

[Host (possibly 'Burcha' or 'Birch')]

And she said anytime you want to have a one night stand. Does she want to know about it beforehand?

[Trey]

No, she don't want it about it, period.

[Host (possibly 'Burcha' or 'Birch')]

But you have the green light and it makes it less appealing.

[Trey]

Yeah, I've given her the card back. I told her I don't want to do it.

[Jen]

She physically made you a card?

[Trey]

No, I mean, just kind of like a get out of jail free card.

[Jeff]

Just saying, how great would that be to go to a bar and just pull the card out and go, hey, my wife gave me this. My wife gave me this card. I think you're real pretty. So I'm wondering if we could have a one night stand on account I got this card right here from my wife. Could you stamp it, please? We don't even have to tell her. You just have to have a one night stand with me.

[Host (possibly 'Burcha' or 'Birch')]

I think it's really interesting that these guys have the green lights. Like every guy talk's a great game off. My wife would just let me have that deal. Well, what we're hearing is when you have the deal, you don't use it. Right. Good morning, Matt, you're on Q100.

[Trey]

Hey.

[Host (possibly 'Burcha' or 'Birch')]

Hey.

[Trey]

Now we did. I was in a relationship. It didn't last, but it was about a five year relationship. And we had that deal, but it was her idea and she wasn't a very outgoing person, so I figured nothing really come of it. But she acted upon it a couple times and I never did. So now I'm kind of kicking myself because about two months after we broke up, she got engaged to one of.

[Host (possibly 'Burcha' or 'Birch')]

The guys kidding now.

[Trey]

And the circumstances about the breakup were kind of nasty, involving certain medical tests, so.

[Host (possibly 'Burcha' or 'Birch')]

Oh, geez. Yeah, I'm sort of glad we took this call because, I mean, based on the other ones, everything's fine. Nobody really takes you up on it.

[Jeff]

You know, it would be fascinating would be to talk to people who have this in one direction in their relationship.

[Host (possibly 'Burcha' or 'Birch')]

So one person is allowed to screw around, the other one is going to.

[Jeff]

Say to the wife, you know what, if we get married, you can go do what you want to do, get it out of your system, but I'm gonna remain faithful to you.

[Host (possibly 'Burcha' or 'Birch')]

Oh, that sounds like a massive guilt trip right there. You go ahead, you do what you want, honey. If that's what you really want to do, you go ahead and do it. You don't really mean that, right? Hey, Craig, you're on Q100.

[Trey]

Hi. Good morning. Bo Show.

[Host (possibly 'Burcha' or 'Birch')]

Good morning.

[Trey]

We have that type of arrangement, sort of. It's just on my end that I'm free to do it. I have to let her know beforehand, and she has a predetermined list of people of her friends that I'm allowed to go ahead with now.

[Jeff]

So wait a minute. Is it a situation where you go to her and you're like, hi, I would like to go with our friend Shelly. And she's like, oh, she's not on the list. But you think she's hot, you think you can get her, and then it starts to be a fight. Like, you have to guess.

[Trey]

Well, no, I already know the list, and I already know the people. And we've been married 11 years, and this came about at a New Year's party, actually about eight years ago. And. And the list has grown since then, since we had new friends and met new people and everything. And the list has started out, I think, at three, and now it's up topic six.

[Jeff]

It's like a menu.

[Host (possibly 'Burcha' or 'Birch')]

Is she putting women on there that she knows you're not going to be attracted to?

[Trey]

No, no, no. Her friends. A lot.

[Jen]

Well, and how many times have you taken her up on it?

[Host (possibly 'Burcha' or 'Birch')]

His sister?

[Trey]

Only one.

[Jen]

Only one time. But you have taken her up on it?

[Trey]

Yes, I have. And it was. And like I said, I think it's. It's up to six now. Four of them are married and two are single.

[Jen]

Which one did you have? The.

[Trey]

One of this. One of the single ones, actually. Her best friend.

[Host (possibly 'Burcha' or 'Birch')]

And are you glad you did it in the end?

[Trey]

No. At the time, yeah. But no, not now.

[Host (possibly 'Burcha' or 'Birch')]

So how.

[Trey]

They're still friends and Everything. Everything is just like, normal.

[Host (possibly 'Burcha' or 'Birch')]

So how does this work? You go back to your wife and you're like, hey, I just want to let you know it's gonna happen between Jen and I tonight. And then on Friday night, you end up going out with Jen.

[Trey]

At that point, it was like a week advanced. I told her like, a week before it happened.

[Host (possibly 'Burcha' or 'Birch')]

That week would be hell in my house.

[Jen]

How did she act towards Fine.

[Jeff]

And how is it when the three of you are around each other right now?

[Trey]

It's just like it was before.

[Host (possibly 'Burcha' or 'Birch')]

No kidding.

[Jen]

Wow.

[Host (possibly 'Burcha' or 'Birch')]

That's a mature.

[Trey]

I mean, they're still best friends. They've been best friends since, like, third grade. When you're 32 now.

[Jeff]

So when you're hanging out with them, do you in your mind go, I've touched all those breasts.

[Trey]

Yeah, Me and her and her best friend and her actual her fiance. Now we haven't we all. We're actually going out Friday night.

[Jen]

So now does your wife have the chance to be with her fiance?

[Trey]

Negative.

[Host (possibly 'Burcha' or 'Birch')]

No, she does not have a list.

[Trey]

It only works on my end.

[Host (possibly 'Burcha' or 'Birch')]

Really?

[Trey]

Didn't come up with an idea? It was her idea, so.

[Jeff]

Lord have mercy.

[Jen]

Doesn't seem real fancy because I'd like.

[Trey]

To have it all the time. And she's like, her sex drive is not as strong as mine.

[Host (possibly 'Burcha' or 'Birch')]

So that's working for you guys?

[Jen]

Yeah.

[Host (possibly 'Burcha' or 'Birch')]

Thank you for calling.

[Trey]

Thank you.

[Host (possibly 'Burcha' or 'Birch')]

Kelly was going to say, but her phone dropped out. That it makes Will want Jada more and shows Jada's confidence that she would give him this card, which is sort of what we found out in the beginning of those calls. Like, once you have the card, you don't necessarily take it.

[Jen]

Well, this last guy did, though.

[Host (possibly 'Burcha' or 'Birch')]

This last guy sure did. But he said he regretted it.

[Jen]

Like you said earlier, you just have to be careful about the offers that you make. Right.

[Host (possibly 'Burcha' or 'Birch')]

Be real careful. The first show.

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[Host (possibly 'Burcha' or 'Birch')]

And the email reads like this Dear Burcha, Having a debate with the co owner of my company that I'm hoping your show can help with. I can never call in because the subject matter alone would definitely make some Never use our business without giving away too much. We're a medium sized company. What we specialize in is of no consequence, but most of our day is spent in business meetings in or out of our office. Our clients are roughly 65% men and 35% women. We both have to agree on the hiring of every and that's capitalized every employee. Up until now we've never really disagreed and because we have the same business philosophy, we've become successful quickly. Here's our debate. We're in the process of hiring a receptionist. Not a huge decision, right? But for whatever reason we both really become strong headed about which employee should get the job. The receptionist that I want to hire has a fairly solid resume. She's worked at a handful of reputable Atlanta businesses and she's armed with good references. And she's very attractive. Very attractive. The receptionist that he is endorsing has a great resume as well, probably slightly better than the receptionist I want to hire. She's been a receptionist at a few more big name companies in Atlanta than receptionist number one. And she too comes with solid references. But she's not attractive at all. We're both married and this has nothing to do with sexual attraction. Strictly from a business debate, my belief is that a receptionist is a potential client's first impression. His feeling is that it's way more important to have a receptionist that we know will be able to handle all the small details that go along with this job. His feeling is that the less attractive employee is a more qualified fit. I can agree that I'd be slightly more confident in the less attractive employee's skills, but for me, her much better looks are way more of an advantage than her slightly less qualified resume. Remember, this is a receptionist. Any input you guys could provide would be fantastic. We'll both be listening. Unnamed Listener so there's the debate. So there's the debate. Do you hire as the receptionist? Now keep in mind what the position is, your first line of defense. I guess it's sort of a marketing decision.

[Jen]

It is the, it is the first impression that you have of any business, whether that's going, going into a doctor's office, going into corporate company, going into retail store, wherever it is, that is your first impression.

[Jeff]

Where this debate is gonna go is people will say, okay, well if it's your first impression, but does that mean that restaurants should only hire attractive servers?

[Jen]

Most of them only hire attractive hostesses.

[Jeff]

Really?

[Jen]

Mm.

[Jeff]

What about retail stores? They only hire attractive people to sell the clothes.

[Jen]

Well, I think that, you know, I mean, I think that the people who are the greeters like at the front of the store are definitely more attractive.

[Host (possibly 'Burcha' or 'Birch')]

I think it's a Walmart that might be the best of the employees that they have to choose.

[Jeff]

Maybe 1922, she was hot.

[Jen]

That's her retiree program at Walmart.

[Jeff]

But it's. Right, it's hard to see her around the cloud of smoke that forms around her oxygen tank.

[Host (possibly 'Burcha' or 'Birch')]

But if your first line, I mean, the first impression that you have of the company is the receptionist, what this is saying is that, look, they're not that far different qualification wise. It's not that crazy different. He says, yes, the less better looking receptionist is probably a little more qualified and my company's probably in better hands with her. But the fact that the other one is so good looking and for this specific position, receptionist, she's the first that's going to greet everybody that supersedes her experience.

[Jen]

See, I just wonder where he, like where he defines attractive. Because I think that attractive can, can be defined in how you present yourself. Like, you know, if you do, you know, like my mom would call it, like groom. Do you groom yourself? Well, you know, because I think any people of any sort of shape, size, whatever it is, can groom themselves well. Wear nice accessories where, you know, I mean, because both of these receptionists are female. So wear nice makeup, have their hair done nicely, you know what I'm saying? So if, if one or the other is either doing that or not doing that, then I would say go with the person who is more well groomed, because that is a put together look at the front of your business.

[Host (possibly 'Burcha' or 'Birch')]

And you can't really hire somebody and have the conversation either right before or right after they're hired saying, hey, I just want to let you know that if we hire you, you're gonna have to clean it up a little bit. See your hair right there. You're gonna have to, you have to Clean yourself up. Make yourself a little more attractive. No, you can't have that conversation.

[Jen]

Right.

[Host (possibly 'Burcha' or 'Birch')]

Do you have that before you get hired or you don't?

[Jen]

Yeah, it's either part of the job description or it's not.

[Host (possibly 'Burcha' or 'Birch')]

Hey, Deanna.

[Caller]

Hey.

[Host (possibly 'Burcha' or 'Birch')]

Good morning.

[Caller]

Good morning.

[Jen]

What do you think about this?

[Caller]

I think that they should hire the less attractive one. First of all, people aren't coming in there with sex on their mind. They're coming in there, they're about to do business. And I mean, really, it all just goes back to the skills. I mean, she's more skilled than the rest of them.

[Jen]

Slightly more skilled than the other one. So you say go with a less attractive person because it's about business.

[Host (possibly 'Burcha' or 'Birch')]

Good morning, Stephanie. You're on Q100.

[Caller]

Hi. Hello. I am. I work for a promotional company and I'm in charge of hiring. And everybody's that we hire, we do have to make sure that they're qualified for the job. But one of the qualifications is that you have to be an attractive person because what you look like is the first thing that people see.

[Host (possibly 'Burcha' or 'Birch')]

There are some industries where this is going to be more important than others. You remember that case we talked about a long time ago, and I think it was a Bally's, and there was a case where there was a cardio teacher that was by far in the best cardio shape of any of the instructors at this specific Bally's.

[Joel]

Right.

[Host (possibly 'Burcha' or 'Birch')]

She was the best instructor they had, but they let her go because she didn't fit the Bally's image. She wasn't thin, she was sort of overweight. She didn't look like she was doing cardio for four hours a day. So we debated this back and forth, and I think Bally's went to court and they actually won the case.

[Caller]

Right.

[Jen]

Because that was part of their job description to start with.

[Host (possibly 'Burcha' or 'Birch')]

It's part of marketing. You know, when you're a fitness instructor, part of the image is this is what we can do for you. And if your cardio instructor doesn't look ideally like you are hoping to look, then that's counterproductive to their brand and their image.

[Jen]

Don't you wish they would have had that with like, high school gym coaches and stuff too? Oh, did you guys ever have really unhealthy PE teachers and stuff?

[Host (possibly 'Burcha' or 'Birch')]

Yeah, mine were the picture of good health.

[Jen]

Oh, really?

[Jeff]

Yeah, really.

[Jen]

God, mine couldn't have been more difficult.

[Jeff]

Yeah, we had. I mean, I remember we. Our gym teachers, our elementary school gym teacher, believe his name was Mr. Klein. And he was a little intense for coaching fourth graders. Just a little bit, like he really wanted us to go from fourth grade to the Summer Olympics. And I remember that. And then we got into high school and our gym teachers didn't care. I mean, they were like, hey, Presidential fitness test, you know, coming up next week, you guys want to play kickball or train for that?

[Host (possibly 'Burcha' or 'Birch')]

Our gym teachers, like in junior high school were always just a little bit creepy to the girls. They were the good looking ones, but it was always just a stare that lasted a little bit too long. Just a little bit of teaching you how to swing that tennis racket from behind. Just a little too long. And we all knew it, you pervs. Good morning. Q100.

[Caller]

Hey, guys. Good morning. This is Katie. How are you?

[Host (possibly 'Burcha' or 'Birch')]

Good, Katie, how are you?

[Caller]

Yeah, hey, listen, I was just going to make a comment. I used to work for a staffing company here in Atlanta. And you know, basically we would have clients call in and, you know, they would basically say it without saying it. You know, I want a polished and presentable candidate. And you know, that would kind of tell us, you know, and they would look at the resumes and they would ask, you know, what's their presentation? And, you know, so I think, you know, I understand from their viewpoint that they want someone who is going to, you know, because when you walk in a company, that's the first person you see in that group. You. And if they're not polished, that doesn't mean they have to be drop dead gorgeous in a 10. But if they're not polished, kind of what Jen was saying earlier, you know, it kind of puts that first spot in their mind.

[Jen]

I think that's right because I think presentation means, you know, anybody and everybody can have a good presentation. If you put yourself together well, if you dress sharply, if you, you know, take care of what you have and, you know, put your best foot forward, I think that that can make you more attractive. You know, if you're a naturally attractive person, but you don't do anything with yourself and you come in looking sloppy and you got, you know, old mascara under your eyes from three days ago, like, you know what I mean? It doesn't matter if you're more naturally attractive. I think it's just the way that you put yourself together.

[Host (possibly 'Burcha' or 'Birch')]

Hey, Hannah, you're on Q100.

[Caller]

Hey, guys.

[Host (possibly 'Burcha' or 'Birch')]

Good morning.

[Caller]

Good morning. I'm not calling myself a beauty queen, but I'm a very attractive person and I've worked in a lot of customer service and I found that and I have a great resume. I've done a lot, but I found it harder, you know, with my hair done great and my makeup done great and a great outfit, people assume that I'm a ditz. Sometimes it's hard to get the job even when you're pretty or when you're not pretty.

[Host (possibly 'Burcha' or 'Birch')]

Look, this, this kind of discrimination goes on both ways. Because one of the most controversial calls we took over the last couple of years was, do you remember that one dude that called up and said that he wouldn't hire the attractive woman because he didn't want the temptation? He and his business partner didn't want the temptation in the office. They're both married and they didn't want to think that, look, I don't want to have all these thoughts about her. Maybe something will come of this relationship. So they hire nothing but, like unattractive people.

[Caller]

And it's hard because the first month that you're there at a new job, you have to get, you know, all the bright guys to leave you alone and understand that you're there to do work and not, you know, mess around with them on the lunch break or when you get to work or you're not there to chit chat all day long. And, you know, I don't want to go to lunch with y'.

[Host (possibly 'Burcha' or 'Birch')]

All.

[Caller]

I don't want to hang out. I'm here to come to work. We don't have to be boyfriend and girlfriend because I look nicer than the receptionist that was here before.

[Host (possibly 'Burcha' or 'Birch')]

Do you find yourself dressing down on interviews and once you get the job also.

[Caller]

I do, I do. I have had to, because if I do too much, I look over the top. So. And it can be in a nice suit and just, you know, plain jewelry and calm down hair. And it's still, I look like a representative for, you know, a pageant show.

[Host (possibly 'Burcha' or 'Birch')]

So I really want that problem. I really want to say at one point, you know what, they turned me down because I'm too good looking.

[Jeff]

I'm going into this job interview, I'm going to have to ugly myself down.

[Host (possibly 'Burcha' or 'Birch')]

Yeah.

[Jen]

You know, I worked at a company once where they were having some issues with the perceptionist that had been there a long time who was like, kind of having like, I don't know, I. I guess you could say like attitude problems or whatever.

[Jeff]

And so the boss be a receptionist with an attitude problem.

[Jen]

Yeah. Well, the boss, like bought a, a plaque that said director of first impressions. And like, it was sort of like her kind of heads up of going.

[Jeff]

Like, hey, which way did it face.

[Jen]

It faced her message on both sides. It was a reminder.

[Host (possibly 'Burcha' or 'Birch')]

One more call here. Good morning Amy, you're on Q100.

[Caller]

Hi guys.

[Host (possibly 'Burcha' or 'Birch')]

Good morning.

[Caller]

I'm just a little disappointed, you know, at society. Once again they've let me down. It's, I mean when the other caller was like, you know, you have to be pretty and then I mean, is that where the ugly people supposed to go? You know, where are they supposed to work?

[Jeff]

Walmart?

[Caller]

I mean that just, it's ridiculous.

[Host (possibly 'Burcha' or 'Birch')]

Well, I think that there are some jobs, like I said before, that it's more important for you to be good looking than in other jobs. If I'm sitting behind a computer all.

[Caller]

Day, then who is the owner or the manager? How are you going to do me? Cute or not cute? I guess attractive. What's attractive and what's not attractive? I guess they have their, the most important.

[Jen]

What do you think about the whole like presentation conversation?

[Caller]

Okay. If you are groomed like the other caller said, you know, no piercings on the face, that kind of thing. Your hair, you know, is I guess washed and you have nice clothes on. I don't see what the problem is.

[Host (possibly 'Burcha' or 'Birch')]

Again, I think it's a marketing decision and your model for what's good looking is going to vary from who you are, who you are. And the model also is going to change from business to business.

[Jen]

That's true.

[Host (possibly 'Burcha' or 'Birch')]

So if you're the Jeff, if you're the owner of this company, do you hire the better looking woman? Less qualified or better qualified? Not as good looking?

[Jeff]

I would go with the better looking woman because I mean it is the, as Jen said, the director of first impressions. But the bottom line is we're not talking about a high brain power job here.

[Jen]

So it's not necessarily true. I think it can be a very difficult job depending on how many people you're a receptionist for.

[Host (possibly 'Burcha' or 'Birch')]

Sometimes those receptionists are the ones really that run the office.

[Jeff]

Are we talking about receptionists or are we talking about, about administrative assistant, secretary type duty.

[Host (possibly 'Burcha' or 'Birch')]

This just says receptionist.

[Jeff]

So receptionist, your job is to answer the phone, greet the people, direct the people to the right direction, probably distribute some, some mail or memos or stuff like that. Now if it's a different job where the duties are more administrative then I would look more at qualifications. But I mean if you're quite the size and the, the size and importance of the company on your resume, your job is to answer phones and patch people through the voicemail.

[Host (possibly 'Burcha' or 'Birch')]

Hire the better looking one, you're saying?

[Jen]

Yep, Jen, it's a difficult decision because I think it does have to do with presentation. So it's not like necessarily who's naturally more attractive or not. It's just who presents themself the best and who can handle that job. And I don't want to minimize the job of a receptionist. I think it can be very, very difficult job to juggle a lot of different things.

[Host (possibly 'Burcha' or 'Birch')]

All right, Senator Hobby, who are you hiring?

[Jen]

No, it's hard.

[Jeff]

I don't want to say it, but it's the better looking person.

[Host (possibly 'Burcha' or 'Birch')]

Senator Javi, who are you hiring?

[Jeff]

Say it. God, you're a coward. Come on, spit it out.

[Host (possibly 'Burcha' or 'Birch')]

Say it.

[Jen]

Probably the more attractive candidate.

[Jeff]

There you go. Feels good, doesn't it? Say it. Better looking people are better.

[Jen]

No, that is not true. It's for that position.

[Host (possibly 'Burcha' or 'Birch')]

In this position.

[Trey]

Get it? The bird show.