Full Show PT 3: Tuesday, April 7 [Vault]

Summary

The Bert Show: Full Show PT 3 – Tuesday, April 7 [Vault]

Episode Summary for April 7, 2026

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Main Theme

This episode of The Bert Show is a quintessential, varied morning-radio mix of real-life stories, listener dilemmas, and playful cast banter. The central thread is authenticity: from a young man's struggle with stereotypes about masculinity to a family torn by financial deceit, and parents’ uncomfortable truths about having a favorite child. Themes of identity, family, trust, and the humor that gets us through everyday situations run throughout.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. When Stereotypes Get Personal: A Listener Email About Masculinity, Sexuality & Dating

[02:02–14:36]

• Premise: Intern Rich reads an anonymous listener's heartfelt dilemma about being frequently mistaken as gay due to his interests (drama, pop music, celebrity gossip) and lack of romantic experience with women.

• Listener’s Words:

  • "I'm a 20-year-old straight guy and when I meet people, they assume I'm gay... I'm sick and tired of defending myself for something as petty as this." (Intern Rich reading, 04:24–07:19)
  • "Every girl I've been interested in has always put me in the friend zone..." (Intern Rich, 06:13)

• Panel Response:

  • Hosts debate stereotypes, nature vs. nurture (raised with only female family members), and the legitimacy of his social concerns.
  • Jen: “To me, a guy goes in the friend zone if you’re not physically attracted to him, regardless of whether he’s more masculine, more feminine, whatever.” (Co-host Jen, 10:51)
  • Wendy: "Not all straight men are into sports...sometimes they do like bows and arrows!" (Co-host Wendy, 14:00)
  • Jeff: “If you become defensive about it, then you’re trying to hide something. It sounds like from this email, he’s not trying to hide anything.” (Host Jeff, 13:31)

• Listener & Caller Advice:

  • Melissa shares she dated a man everyone assumed was gay and it turned out to be her healthiest relationship.
  • Travis introduces the “metrosexual” term; says interests don’t define sexuality.
  • Michelle explains her boyfriend was misjudged for years based on quietness and style, yet their relationship is strong.

• Potential Solutions:

  • Set the listener up on blind dates to help him out of the “friend zone” and see what sort of women are genuinely interested.
  • Emphasis on diversity—both in the LGBTQ community and among straight men.
  • Panel agrees not to “over-defend”; just be oneself.

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2. Stalking or Destiny? Beth and the Mysterious Phone Photos

[19:13–27:29]

• Premise: Beth calls in, sharing a quirky tale: buys a used phone through friends-of-friends, discovers 60–70 photos—some candid, some shirtless—of an exceptionally attractive guy. She now feels like fate’s handed her the keys to his life and wonders how, or if, she should use the information.

• Key Quotes:

  • “Like, I get to see this guy in all phases of his life... It’s like, someone just handed me this thing and said, here is information about this guy.” (Caller Beth, 20:07 & 21:45)
  • “If you think you’re stalking, you probably are.” (Wendy, 19:34)

• Panel Banter/Advice:

  • They joke about “stalking vs. investigative research” and suggest Beth could show up at the guy’s frequent hangout “by chance.”
  • Jen: “Who has a phone filled with pictures of themselves by themselves?” (24:01)
  • Melissa: "Don't Sherlock Holmes this stuff anymore. Just ask the friend of a friend..." (Lindsay, 24:54)
  • Ultimately, they encourage Beth to go for a coincidental meeting—“If it works out, don’t tell him for at least 20 years!”
  • Discussion about reading too much into a person’s digital life, and how modern dating blurs the line between fate and “creepy.”

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3. Family, Money, and Betrayal: When Giving Is Not Enough

[27:37–36:16]

• Premise: Cynthia follows up on her earlier dilemma about whether to give $5,000 to her cousin, who’s asked for help paying for surgery. The family discovered the cousin lied—the money was intended as a down payment on a house, not for medical needs.
• Cynthia’s Quote: "My mom called me last night, furious... she could barely catch her breath... we had been completely duped.” (Caller Cynthia, 29:01)
• Panel’s Take:
  • Emotional impact of family betrayal runs deep; hosts agree Cynthia should cancel the check. Advice flows in to protect personal finances: “Cancel the check, point out it could almost be fraud.” (Host Jeff, 34:07)
  • Listeners suggest an alternative—paying for children’s needs directly or creating a savings account for the kids.
• Themes:
  • Trust, consequences of past behavior, and the limits of family loyalty.

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4. Do Parents Really Have a Favorite? Risky Truths & Family Dynamics

[39:16–54:00]

• Premise: The cast explores a tricky, often taboo topic: "Do parents have a favorite child?"

• Host Admission & Callers:

  • Bert dances around the loaded question, joking about his own “jacked up” childhood.
  • Jen: “My brother is my mom’s favorite and I am my dad’s favorite… but I don’t think they would ever admit it.” (Co-host Jen, 40:06)
  • Callers “Ashley” and “Gloria” admit (on voice disguiser) that they do have favorites—with honest explanations; some cited personality matches or feeling protective due to family dynamics.
  • Emotional reaction—some callers are appalled: “It’s just repulsive to me… people allowed to have more children probably really don’t need to.” (Lisa, 51:20)
  • Wendy: “Sometimes parents don’t realize how just the smallest of signals… affect your kids. Your kids read far more than you realize.” (Co-host Wendy, 48:43)

• Insights:

  • The conversation is both raw and compassionate—sometimes, favorite status is about connection, not love.
  • Everyone agrees: even if it happens, parents should not let their kids feel less loved.
  • Adoptive families discussed; hosts emphasize that love isn’t lesser for adopted children.

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Notable Quotes

• "If you need to overly defend yourself, it's probably true what people are assuming of you." (Listener Email, 06:57)
• “If you show up to where you think he’ll be, and he happens to be there, and you hit it off, isn’t that destiny?” (Bert, 23:15)
• “I love my children equally. I like my son a whole lot more.” (Caller Ashley, 48:15)
• “You just always want to believe that someone is going to try to do better, but to be lied to, like, boldface lied to…” (Caller Cynthia, 32:00)
• "Sometimes parents don't realize how just the smallest of signals... affect your kids. Your kids read far more than you realize." (Co-host Wendy, 48:43)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• [02:02–14:36] Listener email about masculinity and mistaken sexuality; call-ins on stereotypes and dating
• [19:13–27:29] Beth's phone-photo “destiny” story; listeners weigh in on stalking vs. serendipity
• [27:37–36:16] Cynthia’s family money update and betrayal fallout
• [39:16–54:00] Do parents have favorite children? Honest admissions and strong reactions

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Tone & Style

The overall tone is candid, empathetic, and peppered with the show’s signature wit. The cast maintains a non-judgmental attitude and lets the audience see their individual quirks, offering both comic relief and poignant moments. The discussions blend serious advice with encouragement—and a healthy dose of playful cynicism.

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Final Thoughts

This episode offers plenty for listeners who crave both relatable drama and insightful reflection. Whether exploring the frustration of unwanted labels, the thrill (and ethics) of romantic intrigue, tough love family dilemmas, or uncomfortable parental truths, The Bert Show’s authenticity and humor make it a compelling dose of morning radio.

Transcript

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[Host Jeff]

Now I want to make it clear here and I'm sure intern Rich actually, you know, let's bring Rich on now. So Sean will need his at Bat music or Ike music rather, which I'm sure Sean is frantically looking for right now, give me warning before you do that. Rich is one of our interns in the Ike.

[Melissa]

There we go.

[Co-host Wendy]

Some angriness.

[Host Jeff]

It's what we play, much like a baseball game every time somebody joins the show on our intern crew, so. Hey, Rich, how are you?

[Intern Rich]

Hey, Jeff. What's going on, man? How you guys doing?

[Co-host Wendy]

Good morning.

[Intern Rich]

I'm jealous.

[Host Jeff]

Yeah, it's. It's fun. It's going to be 75 and sunny today, and we're gonna soak up every minute of it. Nice.

[Co-host Jen]

Hey, Rich, you used to live out here in la, right?

[Caller Travis]

I did.

[Intern Rich]

That's why I wish I was out there with you.

[Co-host Jen]

Weren't you on a TV show when

[Caller Michelle]

you were out here?

[Intern Rich]

What's that? Actually, no, the TV shows. I was. I was actually. I was in Wilmington, North Carolina. I was a Dawson's Creek boy.

[Caller Beth]

Nice.

[Co-host Wendy]

People gonna ask people who are big fans of the Creek, what. What role did you play?

[Intern Rich]

What's that? Oh, you know, I was just a lonely guy in the background and some random. I was like, probably like one of those stars that you saw and had no idea who she was. That was. That's me. I'm like, you know, the waiter, the guy in the background, the guy with no name.

[Host Jeff]

Man with blue hat.

[Intern Rich]

Man with blue hat. Man shooting pool.

[Co-host Wendy]

But you're still in the credits. Yeah.

[Host Jeff]

There you go. That's more TV shows than I've been in.

[Co-host Wendy]

Yeah.

[Host Jeff]

So, Rich, we're gonna have you hone up your acting skills and read this email. We got an email to Tracy. Got an email, rather, from a listener seeking some advice from us. And it was just so fascinating. We were gonna have him on, and then he decided not to join us. But the email was so fascinating that we still want to talk about it and try to get him some advice if he happens to be listening. So, Rich, if you would please share the email with us that Tracy has given you. That came from one virtual listener, and obviously because he's not on with us, we'll keep him anonymous. So take out any names or anything like that. But, Rich, the floor is yours and the phone lines are open. 404741, Q100 for advice. Go ahead, Rich.

[Intern Rich]

Okay, so the topic here we have here is I have a problem. I need a guy's advice. What's the topic? Headline.

[Host Jeff]

Well, as we learned earlier in the show, there are no guys left on the bird show, but we will try,

[Intern Rich]

so we'll do our best here. First off, I'm a huge fan of the show. I have been for about six years now. My problem is this. I'm a 20 year old straight guy and when I meet people, they assume I'm gay. It's never really been a problem. Until now. I don't know how many times I've been talking to someone who I just met and they say, oh, I thought you were gay. In high school, I was in drama club and it was a good mix of cliques. It was a good mix of cliques in school. Jocks, smart kids, weird kids. You get the picture. People in the hallway would say stuff and I would just ignore it. I never let it get to me because I'm one of those people who think, if I know myself, why should I care what others think? At the beginning of March, I took my best friend to a Britney Spears concert at Phillips arena for her 21st birthday as a present.

[Host Jeff]

Okay, hold on, Rich. I just want to make sure that I'm accurate here. We've got drama club.

[Co-host Wendy]

Yes.

[Host Jeff]

And Britney Spears show, right?

[Intern Rich]

That is correct so far.

[Host Jeff]

Okay, go ahead.

[Co-host Jen]

But it was a present for his friend.

[Host Jeff]

I know, I'm just writing down. I'm making a list, evidentiary list, if you will. Okay, go ahead.

[Caller Cynthia]

All right.

[Intern Rich]

I was talking to this girl sitting in front of me and we started talking about Perez Hilton. Did you write that one down?

[Host Jeff]

Got it.

[Intern Rich]

For some reason she said something along the lines of, as a gay man, I'm sure you understand. I said, oh, well. I said, well, I'm not, so I guess I don't understand. She turned around with a red face and we didn't speak for the rest of the concert. That didn't really bother me. Last week, however, I was at a friend's party and one of my good friends who I have known for a few years, and I were talking, she said something funny and I said it reminded me of an episode of Will and Grace. She looked at me weird and asked, are you sure you're not gay? That struck a chord with me. I've grown up in a house with my sisters and mother, and so I assume I am probably in touch with my feminine side a little more than the average guy. In high school, I was always the fat, funny guy. I've never been on a date, had a girlfriend, or kissed a girl. I've never had the time for it. And I realize that doesn't help my case with people, but I'm sick and tired of defending myself for something as petty as this. Every girl I've been interested in has always put me in the friend zone. I'm a guy interested in the celebrity and news and music. And I have realized this is a huge contributor to these assumptions. I had to sit back and analyze my itunes and I came to the assumption I have the ipod of a gay man. What music do masculine guys listen to? I never thought the music I listened to could make people think this. How do I act more straight? I don't even know how to phrase the question. How do I act more masculine? I guess the real question I'm asking is how do I get people to stop assuming I'm gay? I've always been the type of person who thinks they need. If you need to overly defend yourself, it's probably true what people are assuming of you. I don't know how to approach a situation without getting caught in a mental catch 22. Do you have any advice? I would appreciate any you have.

[Host Jeff]

That's always a tough situation, too. We've all met people like guys. I think it's more prevalent with guys where you would meet a guy who's very feminine and you assume he's gay, but then you meet his wife and

[Co-host Wendy]

you're like, well, no, it can translate to women too. There's some women that you've seen that, you know, you're thinking, oh, well, I wonder where a girlfriend is.

[Host Jeff]

And then her, she's a friend of Melissa.

[Co-host Wendy]

Then her husband walks up, you're like, huh, look at there.

[Host Jeff]

See? Now here's what I would say. Like, if this is just a situation where he was getting, you know, his friends were giving him grief or saying, oh, my God, you know, you've got Britney Spears on your ipod or whatever, then you just say, whatever. Grow up. You know what I mean?

[Bert]

Shut up.

[Co-host Wendy]

It's a good song.

[Bert]

Yeah.

[Host Jeff]

And you just let it go. But this is affecting his dating life.

[Co-host Jen]

This is affecting his whole life. I mean, it sounds like his friends assume so, strangers assume so. And he's starting to almost question himself. But I mean, I think he just has to ask himself, has he ever been attracted to a man? Physically attracted to.

[Host Jeff]

Well, I think he would have said that. He has no problem saying that. He went to a Britney Spears show where he talked about Perez Hilton and Will and Grace.

[Co-host Wendy]

Right.

[Host Jeff]

You know, at the show. So I think if he said, and there's a couple guys that I think are hot, then I think, well, it's one thing.

[Co-host Wendy]

Right?

[Co-host Jen]

Yeah. Then we'll, yeah, hand over the case to Melissa.

[Co-host Wendy]

Well, I just. I mean, because when we read the email, I thought, well, do. I mean, he has a lot of if we're in a courtroom, there's a lot of evidence.

[Host Jeff]

If we are trying here, there's a

[Co-host Wendy]

lot of circumstances evidence, my friend. But I mean, because I'm trying to determine whether if a guy just, you know, because there are some guys that aren't like testosterone, like over testosterone. There are some guys that just don't have as much testosterone. And so they are seriously interested in things that stereotypically women are interested in. So I'm trying to decipher whether he's just one of those guys that. You know what? I'm. I don't have a lot of testosterone. I do like celebrity gossip. I do like Pres. Hill. I do like all these things and the people that I relate to on that is a bunch of. Bunch of women. But I don't know, it's just a fine line because I mean there's so much that is stereotypical that he's surrounded himself with. He's never kissed a girl, never been on a date with a girl. And it's because he doesn't have time. You have time. Well, and he's buddies with all these girl. Well, again, maybe that's the testosterone thing where he doesn't. And I'm saying testosterone just to kind of whatever it is that he's not aggressive enough to try to kiss one of these friends he's got.

[Co-host Jen]

He says though that the girls always put him in the friends own. Like he doesn't get girls that are romantically attracted to him. He just becomes their friend. But he could practice kissing.

[Co-host Wendy]

Don't guys practice kissing when they're younger?

[Host Jeff]

Yeah, but what do you mean?

[Co-host Wendy]

Like.

[Caller Beth]

I mean he's never kissed.

[Co-host Wendy]

Never kissed a girl.

[Co-host Jen]

Yeah.

[Co-host Wendy]

I don't know.

[Caller Michelle]

I mean.

[Co-host Wendy]

Yeah, and we would have to take calls from gay guys too because I mean, I'm, you know, trying to represent.

[Host Jeff]

Oh, that's really gonna throw him is we get a bunch of gay guys helping him be more straight.

[Co-host Wendy]

Well, I'm just saying that if a gay guy says, you know, look honey, you know, because gay men are pretty active and so is the fact that he hadn't kissed a girl does not make him gay.

[Host Jeff]

Hey.

[Co-host Wendy]

You know what I'm saying?

[Host Jeff]

Hey, Melissa, welcome. Welcome to the bird show. Melissa, how are you?

[Melissa]

I'm good. How are you?

[Bert]

Good.

[Host Jeff]

What's your comment?

[Melissa]

He actually sounds like one of the perfect guys. I actually dated a guy that wound up being one of the most healthy relationships I've ever had.

[Caller Michelle]

That upon first meeting I thought he was gay too.

[Melissa]

But I tell you, it's not a bad thing.

[Host Jeff]

I totally hear what you're saying, but you have to admit. And Wendy and Jen and listener. Melissa, I'll answer this honestly. If you meet a guy like that, don't you automatically put him in the friend zone the minute you.

[Co-host Wendy]

Yeah, I think you always have that question.

[Co-host Jen]

I mean, I think to me, a guy goes in the friend zone if you're not physically attracted to him, regardless of whether he's more masculine, more feminine, whatever.

[Caller Michelle]

I disagree because the guy that I dated, you know, he was very charismatic.

[Melissa]

He was just very outgoing.

[Caller Michelle]

And I first thought he was gay once he told me he wasn't. At that point, it changed the whole scenario. We hung out for about six months before we even started dating, and it turned out to be a better thing.

[Melissa]

We were friends first.

[Co-host Wendy]

In relationships, I guess it depends on

[Bert]

what you're attracted to.

[Co-host Wendy]

If you're attracted to a guy like that, that's what you're attracted to.

[Host Jeff]

Hey, Travis. Welcome to the bird show. How are you?

[Co-host Wendy]

These two aren't attracted to guys like that.

[Host Jeff]

How are you, Travis?

[Caller Travis]

Fantastic, sir. I went to a church where the youth minister was predominantly raised by his mother and his four older sisters. And he was of the same way. I guess he was more into the more feminine things because he had more of a feminine influence. I think people are getting him confused with more or less along the lines of metrosexual. You know, that he's a guy man, he's straight, but he does like these other more current issues. And I mean, basically we're gonna have to do is find something that crosses over into something that's more masculine. Like, I like, for instance, if he's crafty and he has ability to do certain things, maybe he had a crossover to something that's a little bit more, I guess, you know, man cave. You know, woodworking, furniture, making, stuff like that.

[Host Jeff]

Like doing those carvings out of. Doing those carvings out of tree trunks with chainsaws. We can do that when he puts Britney Spears on his iPad.

[Co-host Wendy]

Well, he could do the set design for, you know, some theatrical production.

[Host Jeff]

Hey, Michelle. Welcome to the show.

[Co-host Wendy]

That would make it more stress. I was being sarcastic.

[Host Jeff]

Good. How are you, Michelle?

[Caller Michelle]

I'm pretty good. I wanted to say that my boyfriend of two years now was the quiet guy in high school, and everybody assumed that he was gay. But once you got to know him, he was totally into sports. Knew more sports than most of my masculine guy friends. And the ipod has, you know, the emo music, you know, that you would assume. But we've been dating for two years now. So, you know, people just had those assumptions of him because he was the quiet one. He dresses really nice. You know, he's not, I don't know, the athletic type, but at the same time, he got confused all the time. And, you know, like I said, we've been dating for two years. And he said, you know, the guy said that he didn't like defending himself if he knows and

[Host Jeff]

then there's nothing to defend himself.

[Co-host Jen]

Yeah, it does feel like if you become defensive about it, then you're trying to hide something. And it sounds like from this email, he's not trying to hide anything. He's putting it all out there. But I think that we should set this guy up because it sounds like he needs help with dating. Right, right. So. And he can't get past the friend zone. So we need to find women like our caller right here, whose boyfriend, you know, everybody assumed was right, and maybe have her help us select the women that would be good to set him up with. Maybe set him up on three different dates and then follow up with those girls to see how it went. You know, do they think that he's gay? Do they put him in the friend zone immediately? Or maybe he can find a love connection with someone who's going into it knowing, you know, this is a guy who's straight who, you know, maybe isn't your typical macho dude.

[Host Jeff]

So we're doing the hey, I'm not gay dating game.

[Co-host Wendy]

I think so. That's a good name.

[Hers Advertiser]

I think it would work.

[Co-host Wendy]

I think one important thing, it seems that, you know, because I'm always trying to defend, like, gay men and lesbians, like, don't stereotype. Don't assume this. You know, there's a diverse group of people within each community that you have your guys that are very slightly and clean cut, Then you have your gruff guys like it. Not every gay guy is like, this guy's describing himself as. You know what I mean? So it's good now that we're going over to the straight man world and saying straight men are diverse. Not all straight men are into sports. Not all straight men are, you know, building things and, you know, talking about all these, you know, sports and brrr. And sometimes they do like. So it's good that it's showing you bows and arrows. And there's obviously women who prefer the guys that aren't so, you know, gruff well.

[Co-host Jen]

And trust me, if we could date gay men, we would. Okay.

[Host Jeff]

Hey, Mike, you'll be the very last call we take on the topic, hey, Mike, how are you?

[Caller Travis]

Hey, guys. Love the show.

[Host Jeff]

Thank you very much.

[Caller Cynthia]

Joe used this to his advantage.

[Host Jeff]

I was thinking this.

[Melissa]

Imagine the bragging rights to be straight

[Caller Cynthia]

girls is to be the one to

[Melissa]

convert the gay guy straight.

[Caller Cynthia]

I don't know what it is.

[Melissa]

Something about your eyes, maybe your personality.

[Caller Cynthia]

I just really want to kiss you or something.

[Co-host Wendy]

You're a different woman.

[Caller Cynthia]

Use it to his advantage.

[Co-host Jen]

Oh, that's true. He can only use it to be a player, though. He couldn't use it to get in a real relationship.

[Co-host Wendy]

I do not endorse that, by the way.

[Host Jeff]

When he's like the part about the Britney Spears show and like the girls are all talking to him and stuff, like, his perfect response is, no, I thought you were gay. He's like, I'm not gay. I'm just like, Britney Spears. What girl's not going to be a little bit intrigued by that and be like, really? Yeah, because I like Britney Spears.

[Co-host Wendy]

Wait a second. So this listener may be the ultimate player and we just haven't recognized it yet.

[Host Jeff]

Neither is he.

[Co-host Jen]

I say we get producer Tracy on it and we see if we can set him up on a few blind dates and get him over the. He needs like, he needs a. A straight guy slump buster. Like, you know what I mean? Like, he needs to get through this bad.

[Co-host Wendy]

Well, he needs to kiss a girl. He needs to make a kid. He hasn't even done that yet.

[Host Jeff]

Tracy will call him today and see if she can get him to agree to be a part of it and we can actually do it this week and he could date over the three day weekend.

[Co-host Jen]

Yeah, we should definitely do that. And then we'll have the women come back and report for us. He doesn't ever have to come on the air.

[Host Jeff]

Get it?

[Bert]

The Birch show. Delete Me makes it easy, quick and safe to remove your personal data online. At a time when surveillance and data breaches are common enough to make everybody vulnerable, it is easier than ever to find personal information about people online. Having your address, your phone number, family members, names just hanging out there online, it's all pretty scary stuff, right? With Delete Me, you can protect your personal privacy or the privacy of your business from doxing attacks before sensitive information can be exploited. Look, I'm online all the time and it freaks me out that my info is out there. Take control of your data.

[Caller Cynthia]

Get.

[Bert]

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[Bert]

Here is Beth who thinks that she has met her dream guy. And, you know, there is a fine line about getting aggressive about, you know, meeting that dude because guys like a woman with confidence. And then that fine line of stalking. Also, she thinks she's kind of tiptoeing on that line a little bit. Hey, Beth. Good morning.

[Melissa]

Good morning.

[Bert]

How are you?

[Caller Beth]

Okay, how are you?

[Co-host Wendy]

I'm fascinated because if you think you're stalking, you probably are.

[Bert]

Save that. So what's going on? Who is this guy?

[Caller Beth]

So I haven't actually met met this guy yet, so I had a cell phone that was not Good. And it broke. And I was talking to. I was at a party and I was talking to a friend and telling her stupid cell phone. And she was like, oh, a friend of mine has a friend who's selling a cell phone, blah, blah, blah. So basically, like, I. It was too, like, early in my cell phone contract to buy to get the upgrade and blah, blah, blah. So I was like, great, I'll buy this phone from the friend of a friend of a friend. And so, like, we emailed and we arranged a place to meet. Like, we both go to the same school. And so I bought this phone from her. And, like, I was just planning to go home, switch the SIM card and, like, done. Have a new phone, you know, I, like, turn the phone on and there's like 60 or 70 pictures that this person didn't erase from the phone. And I was like, that's weird. So I was just looking because I was curious, like, it's my phone now. And I was, like, flipping through all the pictures, and there is this, like, unbelievable, unbelievably gorgeous guy in a ton of the pictures. This is, like, potentially the most handsome man that I have ever seen in my whole life. Seriously. It's basically like, I get to see this guy in all phases of his life. Like, there's some that he's, like, dressed up to go out. There are some where he's playing sports. I mean, it's just like, everything that I like doing, he's like, he's doing. And I could tell where he was because, like, he was in a lot of local places. And I like looking. And I'm like, oh, my gosh. I can see where I figured out where he works. I can see where he likes to hang out because there's, like, a bunch of pictures of him at this one place, and he's wearing, like, different outfits. So obviously he goes there a lot. So I was like, oh, my goodness. Someone basically just handed me this thing and said, here is information about this guy. And, like, you can figure out a lot about his life by looking at these pictures.

[Bert]

Okay, now here's what I like about this. Because it's not just about one hot guy. You say that he's in a whole bunch of different scenarios and you've made a connection with, like, what he likes to do, you like to do. So there's more than just him being hot.

[Caller Michelle]

Oh, yeah.

[Caller Beth]

I mean, it's like, there's things that he likes to do that I was like, that's exactly what I like to do. On the Weekend. That's exactly the person I would love to hang out with. Like, he just seems really, really cool and. Which makes him even more hot.

[Co-host Wendy]

You know, I think the funny thing is the fine line of stalker, not stalkers. The fact that you didn't take the pictures doesn't make you a stalker, but you get to enjoy the pictures and learn about him.

[Co-host Jen]

How are you connected to the girl? Was it a girl you got the cell phone from?

[Caller Beth]

Friend of a friend of a friend?

[Bert]

Couldn't you just follow that trail, though? Even though you're not directly in touch with that guy? Couldn't you follow this sort of windy trail to get to the guy?

[Caller Beth]

Well, I actually kind of thought, like, you know, that specific one place that I was like, wow, he hangs out there a lot. Like, he's at least five different outfits at that place. I was like, why don't I just go there this weekend, happen to meet him? I mean, it's. The chances that he would be there are great. You know, we can make it as if it's sort of like a chance encounter. And is that stalking, or is that just me sort of creating my own destiny?

[Bert]

Let me go ahead and wax philosophical here, and let's talk about destiny.

[Host Jeff]

Oh, yeah, we need to get you some desk.

[Bert]

All right, so here you go. She needs a phone. At a certain amount, a certain time, through a friend of a friend of a friend of a friend, she ends up with this phone with this guy's picture on it, right? In all these different scenarios, she's making a connection with the guy. If she shows up to where she thinks he's gonna be this weekend and he happens. I mean, there's a million things to do in this city. If he happens to be there when she's there this weekend and they hit it off, isn't that. Aren't those signs of destiny?

[Co-host Jen]

Don't you think he's gonna be there with his girlfriend? The girl's phone who had, like, all the millions of pictures of her boyfriend on it?

[Bert]

Are there pictures of him with other women? Because I don't think she's ever said that.

[Co-host Jen]

No, but I'm saying, who has a phone filled with pictures of themselves by themselves?

[Co-host Wendy]

Somebody took those pictures.

[Caller Beth]

Somebody has to say is kind of like your psychic, because basically I am, like, questioning whether or not the girl who. Like the friend of a friend of friend, girl that I bought the phone from is his girlfriend. Because there are some pictures that they're in together. So that's sort of like the one twist. But it's not like she's a friend, you know, not like she's someone I really know. You know, like we go to the same school and that's about it.

[Co-host Jen]

Nobody has that many pictures of the same person on their phone unless they're in a relationship with them or unless the girl who used to own the phone is a stalker.

[Host Jeff]

I take a lot of mirror shots, just so you know. Mirror shots? I do.

[Co-host Wendy]

Well, that's you.

[Co-host Jen]

You're in a special class by yourself.

[Bert]

Indeed you are.

[Co-host Jen]

Your little only child over there.

[Bert]

Hey, Lindsay. Good Morning. You're on Q100.

[Melissa]

Hi. Okay, listen, sweetie. Don't Sherlock Holmes this stuff anymore. Just ask the friend of a friend of a friend. I mean, kudos to you to. You know, for wanting to make your own destiny, but dang, dang ask.

[Bert]

You say it's not nearly as complicated as she's making it.

[Melissa]

No, it's not. I mean, honestly, come on. If you know these people well enough, just ask them.

[Caller Beth]

Girls, I don't know her that well.

[Co-host Wendy]

Well, I love the Sherlock Holmes reference, but she's. She has already gone on that phone and some of those pictures. She has already imagined the fact that she took those pictures and not the other person.

[Host Jeff]

She's.

[Co-host Wendy]

And she's probably giggled and already created a conversation, you know, between.

[Host Jeff]

Guy sells his next phone, they're gonna be like, look, there's a great looking guy in all these pictures and a weird girl behind him.

[Co-host Jen]

How many pictures?

[Host Jeff]

Staring.

[Co-host Jen]

How many pictures have his shirt off?

[Caller Beth]

Probably like 15 or so.

[Host Jeff]

How many pictures are on the phone?

[Co-host Jen]

I don't know that he dates girls then.

[Caller Beth]

Like 60 or 70. Like a lot.

[Host Jeff]

She.

[Bert]

So she, the girlfriend then is potentially taking pictures of him playing sports without a shirt on on his own phone. Why wouldn't she do that on her phone?

[Co-host Jen]

No, I'm saying that she could be, you know, the old phone owner could be best friends with a gay guy is what I'm saying. If he's got a lot of pictures with his shirt off and he said he's really hot.

[Co-host Wendy]

Sorry, straight guys.

[Co-host Jen]

Sorry.

[Co-host Wendy]

But I mean, but I mean, it's not. Yeah.

[Host Jeff]

See, here's the facts that Jen knows. Straight guys are not attractive, especially with their shirts on.

[Co-host Jen]

Is gay guys with their shirts off.

[Melissa]

I'm serious.

[Bert]

So you got one of two ways to pursue this. Either you follow the chain of emails back to him and get more details as you go along, or you go to like the bars that he's hanging out with on Friday and Saturday nights and see if you meet him Spontaneously, quote, unquote, and find out that way.

[Caller Beth]

But if I. And if I go, then it's not. It wouldn't be like stalking. It would just sort of be, well,

[Co-host Wendy]

if you go, then you create the situation, meeting him, and, you know, I

[Bert]

don't think it's stalking.

[Caller Beth]

Take investigative work, you know, and if

[Co-host Wendy]

it does work out and Burt's destiny does prevail, then this is a story you don't tell him for a long time. Like, yeah, 25th anniversary.

[Caller Beth]

Then it's like a funny thing we laugh about later.

[Bert]

You don't tell him until your 20th wedding anniversary.

[Co-host Wendy]

Exactly.

[Caller Cynthia]

Way later.

[Caller Beth]

Way later.

[Caller Gloria]

Okay.

[Caller Cynthia]

All right.

[Bert]

So your homework assignment is to go to the place that he hangs out at on the weekends and then go.

[Melissa]

Okay.

[Bert]

All right, Beth, when you get a little further along in the process, give us a call back. I'd love to know what's up.

[Caller Beth]

Okay, cool.

[Bert]

All right.

[Caller Cynthia]

Bye.

[Bert]

Bye. You're on the Burt Show. All right, let's refresh your memory here with Cynthia from a couple of days ago.

[Caller Cynthia]

I love my cousin and I want to help her, but there's, like, a long history here of irresponsibility, and I feel like that should not be rewarded. Our grandmother gave us both a substantial amount of money that would have paid for three out of four years of college. Never went to school. She used that money for partying. And, you know, we're 27. She's still living at home. She got pregnant a second time. She doesn't work. And then she had a car accident maybe five or six years ago, being nasty. Need surgery on her hand. Her mom called my mom and was like, I'm so sorry to ask, but if you could just give us a little bit for the surgery part and maybe a little torch. They asked my mom for $5,000.

[Bert]

So like Melissa said, this is one of the few cases where it was unanimous advice.

[Host Jeff]

Yeah.

[Co-host Wendy]

Our advice was don't give the money.

[Bert]

And the virtual community, too, every call and saying the same thing.

[Co-host Jen]

Because everybody was like, you're not going to get it back. You know, if you give it. It's not like you're lending her the money. You're giving it to her.

[Bert]

She didn't want to. So what was the email?

[Co-host Jen]

The email suggestion from a listener because her cousin needed some sort of surgery on her hand. But our listener was concerned that even if she gave her the money, that maybe she wouldn't even spend it on the surgery, she'd spend it on something else. And the suggestion from one of our listeners was she should go to the doctor with her and pay the doctor directly. If she wanted to help her out, pay the medical bill directly at the doctor's office and not just give her the money to pay for the surgery

[Host Jeff]

or put a lien on her hand.

[Intern Rich]

So if

[Co-host Wendy]

you chop it off.

[Host Jeff]

Yeah, you actually keep the hands.

[Co-host Jen]

I thought that was a good suggestion. We didn't think of.

[Bert]

Cynthia is back with us. Hey, Cynthia.

[Caller Cynthia]

Hey. Good morning, guys.

[Co-host Wendy]

Good morning.

[Bert]

We thought this was going to be like a 30 second conversation. Your cousin comes into town, she wants the cash, you say no, there's a bit of an argument, we wash our hands of it and we move on.

[Caller Cynthia]

Oh, yeah, it has turned into something. I can't even describe how I'm feeling this morning, but there's been a little bit of a debacle over the weekend.

[Co-host Jen]

Okay.

[Caller Cynthia]

It started out, everything was, you know, I was expecting it to be, you know, I was expecting to be confronted. And my mom and I had had a long conversation. The day before the barbecue, my mom calls me back and says, listen, I really been thinking about this, you know, the right thing to do. We really need to think about her children who didn't ask to be brought into this world. We need to help her so that she can get work. We need to help her fix her hand. And I was like, okay. So my mom had this total change. She also said that she was able, my mom was personally able to come up with $2,000. So if I could just give the additional three, everything would be taken care of. So I said, you know what? Okay, I, you know, I understand. Let's give her another chance and try to help those kids. So we went to the barbecue. My cousin was like almost in tears. She was so happy. She said it was really going to help her change her life for the better. And we gave her the money. Well, I felt pretty good about the decision, even though I knew that she's had a history until yesterday. My mom called me last night, furious. She's crying. She can barely catch her breath. She's so angry. And what she told me was she had found out from another family member that we had been completely duped. Completely duped. What my cousin is doing is buying a pre foreclosure home. Her parents want her out of the house. She wants to be out of the house. So the whole family, my cousin's whole family lied to us about what that money was for. So she's out there trying to buy a house with it and she doesn't have enough money. So what's probably going to happen, she's going to buy the house and it's not going to work out anyway. We're going to lose all that this morning. What I have to do. My mom has decided to cancel her check, and I think I need to cancel my check. And this is going to be a risk that may be irreparable in the family. It's shocking to me.

[Co-host Jen]

Wow. Is it that her hand isn't hurt at all?

[Caller Cynthia]

I mean, it's hurt, but she's been saying that it's completely damaged. She can't work. It's fine. Apparently, it's fine. Apparently, it was a whole.

[Host Jeff]

I hope it works. You got paid for a mortgage.

[Bert]

404.

[Co-host Wendy]

Sign all those papers.

[Bert]

Q100.

[Host Jeff]

Yeah, it's a lot.

[Co-host Wendy]

A lot of papers when you close on a house.

[Bert]

I understand where your mom was coming from here and all, but, I mean, you guys knew the history. You knew what she was all about. She has shown you in the past what she was all about. And you gave her the cash, and she did with. I mean, it could have been predicted. Right?

[Caller Cynthia]

You know, you just always want to believe that someone is going to try to do better, but to be lied to, like, bold face, lied to.

[Co-host Wendy]

Right. It's not your. It's not your fault that she lied. Now, you gave her the checks. You gave her those checks yesterday, day before.

[Caller Cynthia]

Yeah, Saturday.

[Co-host Wendy]

Yeah.

[Co-host Jen]

Yeah.

[Co-host Wendy]

I would definitely cancel it.

[Caller Cynthia]

I mean, because bank holiday, my mom was like, call first thing this morning. As soon as the bank's open, just cancel them. And then, you know, it's. It's going to be a rift in the family. But I. This is just ridiculous.

[Co-host Wendy]

It's gonna be. It's gonna be rich in the family anyway.

[Caller Cynthia]

Yeah, exactly.

[Caller Beth]

So.

[Co-host Jen]

So how is she, your cousin? Like, does this make your mom cut off other family members, too?

[Caller Cynthia]

Well, because they lied as well. I mean, everybody sat there and talked about that surgery, you know, the whole time at the barbecue. So, yeah, my mom is. I think that's what's even more devastating. We kind of always known that my cousin's a little bit of a shadester with the fact that her parents got involved, too.

[Co-host Jen]

Yeah.

[Caller Cynthia]

You know, it really makes me a little bit clearer on how she was raised now.

[Caller Beth]

Is it.

[Bert]

Is it possible that she duped her parents also? So they're not in on the whole thing?

[Caller Cynthia]

No, I think they knit. They were. They were in on it. And the problem is they don't have enough money to give her. They gave her some for the house because $5,000 really wouldn't be enough anyway. But they gave her some. But they were short.

[Co-host Wendy]

They were just, I think a general was asking like, how is her, your mom? Who is it? Her sister or brother's daughter or her sister's daughter. Her sister's daughter. So her and her sister are going to have to cut ties over this

[Caller Cynthia]

going to be bad. I mean, my mom, I have, she's pretty, you know, calm and cool headed. But yesterday it was unlike anything I've ever seen.

[Bert]

Hey, Marie, good morning. You're on Q100.

[Melissa]

Good morning. You guys should cancel the check because even if she buys the house and the anger of knowing how she bought the house is going to put a rift in the family anyway. So if you cancel your check that it'll all be her problem, you know, there'll be a maybe 25, $30 fee that would be nice to give her that to cover their balance check. Balance check fee, but just cancel it.

[Co-host Wendy]

Yeah, cancel the check because you're, you're not, she's not spending it on what you offer to pay for. So I mean, there's no problem.

[Host Jeff]

I think you cancel the check if they give you any grief. Point out the fact that maybe it could almost be fraud like what she asked you to do.

[Co-host Wendy]

They can't give you grief.

[Host Jeff]

Fraud.

[Bert]

Maybe it's because people like to report things that go bad, but I know very few family money transactions that go well.

[Host Jeff]

Yeah, because you never hear about them. Like you said, it's not that people don't like to report things that go bad, but if, if I loan 100 bucks to my parents for some and they pay me back a week later, you don't say it's a non issue because you like to think that 90% of transactions happen that way. But when you loan someone, what was your total? 3 grand plus your mom's 2 grand and you're duped for it, then you tell everybody on the radio, God bless you.

[Bert]

Hey Doreen, good Morning. You're on Q100.

[Caller Michelle]

Morning, how are you?

[Bert]

Good, thank you for calling.

[Melissa]

Yeah, what I think they should do is they should cancel their check but start a savings account for the kids. And when they call and want to know why, tell them that you've canceled the checks, you're going to take care of the kids or at least get them a better start than what apparently she can do. But someone needs to tell them all that she's a bad, bad person.

[Co-host Wendy]

Edit myself. Edit myself.

[Bert]

Somebody wanted to c. Yeah, there's not many More reasons to take calls because everybody's saying, cancel the check.

[Co-host Wendy]

Well, it's a relief that yesterday was a holiday that you have a chance to cancel the check before she cashed it.

[Caller Cynthia]

Absolutely. And just, you know, this is a lesson to listen to your gut instinct. You know, we all talked about this last week. We all knew that she had a history, but your gut tells you the right thing to do. Generally, I think.

[Bert]

I think you're probably right.

[Caller Cynthia]

Yeah.

[Co-host Jen]

But she tugged on the heartstrings. And, you know, like you said, you weren't making the decision to give her the money for her. It was for her kids and to give her kids a better life and

[Bert]

then get moms in on it also. And then when you have the aunt pressuring you, too. But she. She showed you what she was before this weekend.

[Caller Cynthia]

You know that's right. Well, you guys knew it, and I really appreciate y' all help.

[Co-host Wendy]

Yeah, we knew her.

[Host Jeff]

Hey, where is that?

[Co-host Wendy]

Her reputation preceded her.

[Host Jeff]

That house that she's gonna buy is a pretty good deal right now, probably.

[Bert]

Thanks, Cynthia. Appreciate it.

[Caller Cynthia]

Thank you.

[Co-host Wendy]

Bye.

[Caller Gloria]

Bye.

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[Bert]

I think. In all seriousness, the other day Jen asked me the question to choose. If I had to choose, who do I love more? Which son? He asked me that.

[Host Jeff]

You're not gonna do this.

[Co-host Jen]

I asked if you had a favorite kid.

[Bert]

I will tell her and she didn't buy my answer. But you, it's impossible. Maybe because they're still so young that I can't draw a favorite yet. Like, I mean, it's just, I don't know.

[Co-host Jen]

Like, if your parents had to pick, who would they pick?

[Co-host Wendy]

That is the worst. I can't believe you're at this.

[Host Jeff]

Well, you can't ask Bert.

[Bert]

You can't ask me because my childhood was so jacked up.

[Co-host Jen]

All right, If Stacey's parents had to pick, who would they pick? Stacey or her brother?

[Host Jeff]

Don't answer this for anyone else. Bert, don't do it.

[Bert]

Michelle can answer. Come over here.

[Co-host Wendy]

What would your parents say, Jen?

[Co-host Jen]

That's what he asked me. And I don't know that they would.

[Bert]

You said you had an answer.

[Co-host Jen]

I know. I don't know that they would say, but my thought would be that my brother is my mom's favorite and I am my dad's favorite. If they were being really honest, but I don't think they would ever.

[Host Jeff]

You're daddy's girl. He's a mama's boy.

[Bert]

So that like as a parent, I really don't think it works that way. At least it doesn't for me.

[Co-host Jen]

That's what my parents would say.

[Bert]

I know.

[Co-host Jen]

And I would never answer it.

[Host Jeff]

Okay, answer this honestly right now. Who is your favorite parent?

[Bert]

It's hard for me to say because I don't like either one of us.

[Co-host Wendy]

Who's the least evil of your parents?

[Melissa]

Could you.

[Co-host Jen]

Stacey's family for Stacy, from your perspective,

[Host Jeff]

dangerous.

[Bert]

We are really, really approaching very dangerous ground. And why?

[Co-host Jen]

It's just your opinion. It's not. What's the truth?

[Bert]

I just don't feel like taking that bait. Based on that last argument that Stacey and I had on the air a couple of weeks ago. I don't. I don't know.

[Co-host Jen]

Would it be the same thing? Like she's her dad's favorite and he's her mom's favorite. Like that cross gender parent.

[Bert]

I know you're trying to rope me in here, but I really don't think that I could. I don't know. I really couldn't tell you.

[Host Jeff]

Michelle broke an ankle jumping up here to get quirky, so.

[Caller Mike]

Yeah, well, because.

[Bert]

Hold on. For this. I can give you your music. Fuck. I am your doctor. I make hot. Seemed a little inappropriate when we were talking about your dad that passed. Passed away last year.

[Caller Mike]

He's dancing in heaven.

[Bert]

There you go.

[Caller Mike]

What you got my. Well, first of all, they live in Florida, so they don't hear me anyways. But I am both my parents favorite.

[Bert]

You're sure of that?

[Caller Mike]

Absolutely.

[Bert]

How many?

[Caller Mike]

They love my sister just as much.

[Co-host Wendy]

They do, they do that.

[Caller Mike]

But I. I've done everything for my mom and dad. I've done everything.

[Bert]

That doesn't mean they like you more.

[Caller Mike]

Oh yes they do.

[Host Jeff]

Believe me.

[Caller Mike]

I thought my parents have.

[Host Jeff]

Didn't your sister say that your dad's visited you in your dreams? He hasn't even come by her House.

[Caller Mike]

So we have that ongoing joke. It's like, girl, daddy don't love you. He's mad at you.

[Bert]

How are you? How can you be absolutely sure that your parents love you more?

[Caller Mike]

I wouldn't say they love me more, but I would say they're my favorite. Just because it's your favorite doesn't mean you love that person more. It just means maybe you prefer that person to be around more.

[Bert]

So if they were gonna spend money to take one kid on vacation, they would definitely take one.

[Caller Mike]

Absolutely.

[Bert]

Not even close. What is it about your siblings that they've done that your parents.

[Co-host Wendy]

How many children are there total?

[Caller Mike]

One sister who's my older sister but should have been my younger sister because she's just. Wild child. Just put my parents through everything. But me, I was a good one, man. I didn't make good grades. I was always the. I always made up for her mistakes. That's why I'm the favorite. I did everything she didn't do.

[Caller Beth]

My parents.

[Bert]

You're assuming you're the favorite.

[Caller Mike]

No, I know. Even my mom told me it's only

[Co-host Wendy]

because you think you're the good kid.

[Caller Mike]

I said, I told my mom. This is like. Like a month or two ago. I said, mommy, I said something. I said, I know, because my sister and my mom live together. I said, I know. Whatever. I'm probably not your favorite anymore. Whatever. I think I yelled at her. I said, I'm sorry for feeling it. She goes, you'll always be my favorite.

[Co-host Wendy]

But your sister wasn't in the room.

[Caller Mike]

But I think I told Vanessa anyways.

[Bert]

You are not allowed to be because

[Co-host Wendy]

she told your sister the same thing when she was alone. I know we say the same thing.

[Bert]

Rachel's phone dropped out, but she was gonna say that she's one of eight and her dad told her that she was the thing in his favor.

[Co-host Wendy]

Were you alone in the room with him then?

[Bert]

You couldn't say that. You could not say that with the others around?

[Co-host Wendy]

No, that's what I'm saying. I think he said it to all of them, is what my theory.

[Host Jeff]

Everybody individually?

[Co-host Wendy]

Yes, everybody individually. They tell each one, make them feel special.

[Host Jeff]

It's like Santa Claus at Christmas time. You're out of earshot of all the other kids, and you're like, you're the good one. You're going to get the toys. And then the next one comes up, you're the good one. You're going to get the toys.

[Bert]

The only way that I could answer even a little bit controversial for you, that would Be honest would be to say that I think Hollis is probably gonna be involved in more things that I'm naturally more interested in. Like, I think he's gonna be more into sports than Hayden is, but that certainly won't mean that I like him more or love him more. I just think it's gonna be easier for me to attend stuff that I have a natural liking to.

[Host Jeff]

If they were both adults, who would be your friend?

[Bert]

We're both. Well, all of us are hanging out. It's impossible. I can't see how a parent could, absolutely could realistically answer that. Hey, good morning, Simone. You're on Q100.

[Melissa]

Hey, good morning, you guys. I love you guys. I want to listen to you every morning.

[Bert]

Thank you.

[Co-host Wendy]

Thank you.

[Melissa]

I was just trying to help you guys. I have five kids, and, you know, I've always felt like it. Your point is really clear, Bert. It's so hard to decide, but I kind of look at them all like different flavors of chocolate candy or, you know, each kid has his own little thing. But my husband's really great about. You know, even when all of them are in the room, my husband will pick out a certain day and go, you know, you're my favorite. And he does it in front of each one of them. But each other day or another day, he'll point out another child and go, you're my favorite today. You know, you're my favorite child. But each kid brings something different. I don't think that I could ever sit there and go, you know, I love. Each one has such a different quality that you love, that you can't say one specifically is better than the other one or that you love that one even more.

[Bert]

I don't believe that this may be. This may be the topic that we would not get an answer to. Like, if you're a parent right now, we put you on the Voice.

[Host Jeff]

Yes, we will.

[Bert]

You have to say, yes, I love one child more than the other.

[Co-host Wendy]

Haven't we done that before?

[Host Jeff]

You could pick up.

[Co-host Wendy]

I think we got calls before.

[Host Jeff]

Yeah, we'll get calls. You could pick up Simone again, and you could just say, all right, look, you're on the voice disguise, and your name's no longer Simone. And she'd be like, okay, well, they've all got their different flavor, but I gotta tell you, I prefer butterfly.

[Bert]

Like, maybe. Maybe if you have more history with the child.

[Co-host Wendy]

I couldn't do it the older they get.

[Bert]

I mean, I realistically could not. I'm not being.

[Co-host Jen]

I think.

[Co-host Wendy]

I think all the same, I Think in my family, my brother is just special. I think he's special to everybody. So I think if there was a. There was somebody just out of the running, like, there's no competition, I think it'd be my brother because he's just this really sweet guy and gets along with everybody. And I think when it comes to my sister and I, I don't think that there's a favorite, but I do think that we remind. You know, and I've talked about this before. I remind my mother of my dad, and my sister, you know, is a lot like my mom. So I think my dad just naturally took to my sister because she reminded him of the woman he married. And my mom and I have always been close, but I think it's because she's gravitated toward me because I remind her of the man she married. So I still don't think it's a favor. But I do think there's other reasons why they like being around us. And it's not us. It's the people that we remind them of, you know?

[Bert]

Good morning, Ashley. You're part of the bird show.

[Caller Cynthia]

Hi.

[Melissa]

Good morning.

[Bert]

Good morning.

[Caller Michelle]

Okay.

[Melissa]

My mom admitted in front of my brother, I'm one of three.

[Caller Beth]

I'm the oldest.

[Melissa]

But my brother and sister both got into a lot of trouble. And my mom admitted in front of my brother that she should have stopped after she had me.

[Caller Cynthia]

Oh, gosh.

[Co-host Wendy]

Brutal.

[Bert]

That is one that would never go away. Never, never.

[Co-host Wendy]

I would never forget. That would hurt so bad.

[Bert]

This may be the one call we get. We got a parent on the phone that is willing to say that she's got one of her children, is a

[Co-host Jen]

favorite on or off. The voice disguiser.

[Bert]

Voice disguiser. That's the only way we should do this.

[Intern Rich]

Yeah.

[Host Jeff]

Even for their own protection.

[Bert]

We will call her Ashley. Good morning, Ashley.

[Caller Cynthia]

Hi.

[Bert]

Hi.

[Caller Gloria]

Yeah.

[Caller Cynthia]

Definitely my son.

[Bert]

You have a son and a daughter?

[Caller Gloria]

Yep.

[Co-host Wendy]

Okay.

[Caller Cynthia]

My daughter's five, and it's definitely my son.

[Co-host Wendy]

Already that young.

[Co-host Jen]

Why?

[Host Jeff]

Why is that? What's wrong with your daughter?

[Caller Cynthia]

She's just very clingy and very girly, and he's very much a rough and tough trucks and GI Joes and very independent, and she's not. And I just.

[Co-host Wendy]

Is she clingy to her dad and

[Caller Mike]

that's why you don't like her?

[Caller Cynthia]

No, she's clingy to everybody.

[Caller Gloria]

She, like.

[Caller Cynthia]

She's one of those little girls that will, like, walk up to strangers on the street and hug them.

[Co-host Wendy]

Why does that.

[Bert]

And you don't like that?

[Co-host Wendy]

Why does that bother you?

[Bert]

My child's a little too loving.

[Host Jeff]

I can understand that.

[Caller Gloria]

I'm not very girly.

[Co-host Wendy]

I just can't relate. Since that she can't relate.

[Bert]

Is it even close like, or is it. Your son is way, way, way, way your favorite.

[Caller Cynthia]

I love my children equally. I like my son a whole lot more.

[Co-host Wendy]

Oh.

[Caller Cynthia]

If that makes any sense.

[Co-host Wendy]

You don't like. It does. You like your loving little girl?

[Co-host Jen]

It's not. It. It makes sense. I mean, it doesn't sound fair and it seems harsh, but as long as

[Co-host Wendy]

you try not to ever let your daughter feel that from you.

[Bert]

Do you ever like, sort of hear yourself? No.

[Caller Gloria]

I treat them.

[Caller Cynthia]

I treat them equally. I would never, I would never say that to them ever.

[Co-host Wendy]

I don't say that. But, you know, I think sometimes parents don't realize how just the smallest of signals and the smallest of things affect your kids. Your kids read far more than you realize.

[Bert]

She's going to call herself Gloria. She's on the voice disguiser. Hey, Gloria.

[Caller Gloria]

Hey.

[Bert]

Hey.

[Caller Gloria]

I think there's more that goes into it. I admit my youngest is probably my favorite, but it's because I've always. My ex obviously has a kind of dislike for him or has always been extremely hard on him. So I think that, you know, as a mom, I protect him and so he has become my favorite and maybe I'll let things slide a little bit more.

[Co-host Wendy]

How old are your children?

[Caller Gloria]

8 and 11.

[Co-host Wendy]

Okay.

[Bert]

And is the, it's the 8 year old that's the favorite?

[Caller Gloria]

Yeah. And my older one is. Also has some special needs and it makes it difficult. But you know, his father gravitates towards him. They're more similar. And so my little one, I always, I am protective of him because I feel like he's getting, you know, he's getting not made an example of. But his father is much harder on

[Bert]

him because he doesn't have the special

[Caller Gloria]

needs that plays into it, the dynamics of the family. It's not necessarily that I just chose him. It's that just his whole life I think I've always stepped up and been kind of his champion. So, you know, it's not just. And I'm the favorite in my family and my dad has told me that and my sisters know it. So I know that there's certain reasons, you know, so I don't, I don't, I don't think I love my younger child anymore. But like Bert said, we have more in common. You know, he doesn't want to play computers. He wants to go out and play baseball or tennis or something, and that's me.

[Co-host Jen]

I appreciate your honesty with it. I mean, that's what we asked for.

[Bert]

I don't know what special needs. I want to be attached to that call at all.

[Caller Beth]

No.

[Bert]

Good morning, Q100. You're on the voice disguiser.

[Caller Gloria]

Hello?

[Bert]

Hello.

[Caller Gloria]

Hi, this is Jackie. I just want to make a comment about these mothers.

[Bert]

Okay, go ahead.

[Melissa]

Like, I only have one, and I hope that medically I can have another one. So I don't really know firsthand, but I do know that they're your children no matter what. And regardless if you have, quote, unquote, more in common with them, you do what they want to do. You know what I mean? And I just think that it's disgusting that they're sitting here saying that I love my oldest more than I love my youngest.

[Co-host Wendy]

Yeah.

[Caller Cynthia]

I don't know how.

[Bert]

Just really? Because in my heart, I just don't know how you could ever really feel that.

[Melissa]

No, no, no, no, no. Ever, Ever.

[Bert]

They're like. They're part of you. So I. Yeah. It just doesn't make.

[Co-host Jen]

It doesn't.

[Bert]

It's not computing for me, you know?

[Melissa]

And like I said, hopefully I can have another one. Medically, I don't know if I can. And I hope and pray to God that I can, but I don't know firsthand, but that it's just repulsive to me because people that are allowed to have more children probably really don't need to. Half of them.

[Co-host Jen]

Do you think people who adopt and then have natural children feel differently about their kids?

[Melissa]

I would hope not. I mean, I really and truly would hope not. I mean, I guess it's like the same thing as a mixed family, you know, kind of in the back of your head, that's your child. So you're gonna have a little bit more different feelings for your real child than you are, you know, your stepchildren. But when you adopt, I mean, that's what you're doing. You're trying to give them a better life and love them like they're your

[Co-host Wendy]

own, and it is still your child. Yeah.

[Bert]

Well, in using the same analogy that the last Birch show listener, though, she gives more attention to the non special needs child because she feels he doesn't get enough attention.

[Co-host Wendy]

Right.

[Bert]

So in an adopted family, maybe there is one parent that's giving more attention to the adopted child.

[Co-host Wendy]

Right. One of my good friends in high school, he was adopted. And then because they didn't think they could have children, and then they naturally had a daughter after him and it's, I mean, I noticed that they, I mean, he never felt, he never felt like he was anything different, you know, he was different from her or whatever. So, I mean, I'm sure it happens. But yeah, I think that it just once you adopt a child, I mean,

[Bert]

it's your child that makes my heart hurt from people that said that, you know, they favor one over the other.

[Co-host Wendy]

Well, at least in the last one's case. I mean, if it's an only kid, you can say you're my favorite and get away with it. But I mean, Jeff's an only kid, so just know what you're getting.

[Bert]

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