Full Show PT 3: Tuesday, December 16 [Vault]

Summary

The Bert Show – Full Show PT 3: Tuesday, December 16 [Vault]

Original Air Date: December 16, 2025
Main Theme: Engaging, humorous, and real conversations on social norms, church etiquette, authenticity in relationships, the soulmate debate, and discovering your stage persona vs real life.

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Episode Overview

This episode of The Bert Show dives into two major themes:

1. Church Etiquette and Judgment: Hilarious and real stories from listeners about being kicked out of church for various reasons, sparking a discussion on social norms, hypocrisy, and regional differences in religious practice.
2. Soulmates and Relationship Honesty: An emotional debate on whether listeners believe they’re married to their true “soulmate,” featuring candid and sometimes heartbreaking calls about emotional affairs, temptation, and the nature of true love.

In classic Bert Show style, these deep discussions are interspersed with lots of laughs—culminating in a playful roast and exploration of co-host Jeff’s “on-air” vs “on-stage” personalities.

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Key Segments & Insights

1. Getting Kicked Out of Church – Social Norms & Double Standards

Timestamps: 01:32–14:45

• Host Commentary: The segment opens with the crew joking about what could actually get someone thrown out of church, riffing on large hats, noise violations, or rolling in drunk after a big night out.
  • “There couldn’t be a longer walk of shame than being kicked out of church.” — [C, 02:33]

Notable Callers and Stories

• Colleen’s Mini-Skirt Scandal:

  • Colleen calls in, embarrassed, to share she and her boyfriend were asked to leave church for her “mini-skirt” (which she maintains was tasteful).
  • “As far as they know, we were still there. But then he and I were asked to leave.” — [F, 02:50]

• Hosts’ Reactions:

  • A discusses the importance of showing respect when dressing for church, while C argues for inclusivity:
    • “You should be able to wear whatever you want to church because under the eyes of God...he’s pretty cool about it. But...they’ve got a lot of kids there. I could see how the church could be sensitive.” — [C, 03:45]

• Ashley’s Inclusive Church Experience:

  • Ashley calls in from Douglasville, contrasting Colleen’s story with her own church, which has welcomed “strippers, drunk people, hookers—everyone.”
    • “We were always taught to love anyone who comes in our church, no matter what.” — [F, 06:34]

• Regional Differences:

  • Stacey from California reflects on how “cover up” standards really amped up after she moved South, even being asked to cover up as a 12-year-old:
    • “It totally affects a 12-year-old...but that's what you’re dealing with ‘cause church is for everyone.” — [F, 07:53]
  • Conversation pivots to whether this is a Southern thing or just certain conservative denominations, with acknowledgment that experiences can vary even within the same city.

• Another Unjust Ouster:

  • Paula recounts being asked to step out of her nephew’s christening with her non-crying three-month-old daughter. The congregation largely sides with her, apologizing for the minister’s actions.
    • “There must have been 50 people who apologized for his bad behavior.” — [F, 10:58]

• Closing Thoughts:

  • Brandy, a proud Southern Catholic, clarifies “My priest is happy to fill pews on a Sunday morning. He does not care if I come in there in hot pants and a tank top. As long as I am there, he is happy.” — [F, 11:32]

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2. Soulmates: Married, but Not With ‘The One’

Timestamps: 14:45–30:41

• The hosts introduce the theory of “the one” soulmate—and the painful reality for those married to someone else.
  • “If you’re not with that one person, that means you’re married to someone that's not the best person for you...Is anybody willing to admit that?” — [C, 14:45]

Listener Stories:

• Caller #1:

  • Married 17 years with 4 kids but swears she met her soulmate—someone she only met four years ago. Despite mutually knowing they’re soulmates, she stays with her family.
  • “He did something to my skull. He did something deep inside that just blew my mind.” — [D, 15:16]
  • Admits to an affair, but now avoids contact out of loyalty and necessity.
    • “It’s torturous no matter what. It just kills my insides.” — [D, 17:33]
  • Contemplates how she’d want her husband to handle it if the roles were reversed:
    • “I would be crushed. But since it’s happened to me, I know what it feels like.” — [D, 18:49]

• Hosts Reflect on the Concept:

  • The team debates whether the soulmate fantasy can be a “cop-out” or bypass for doing the work in a relationship.
    • “I think the danger in the theory of a soulmate is...people totally disregard the person they’re with because they’re thinking the perfect person’s out there.” — [A, 20:06]
    • “If you’re not in tune with yourself, how can you recognize a soulmate when you don’t even recognize your own?” — [A, 20:37]

• Caller #2 (Voice Disguised):

  • Another caller maintains a “soulmate” relationship with a coworker—no physical affair, but deep emotional intimacy.
    • “And I share every intimate detail of my life with this man, and vice versa.” — [D, 25:59]
    • The hosts press: “That, to me, is a form of infidelity.” — [C, 26:44]
  • She insists she’s not cheating as they've never been physical, but acknowledges the sadness and longing.

• Philosophical Musings:

  • The hosts move toward acceptance, questioning whether soulmates can simply be platonic, and pondering if pursuing “the one” means undervaluing what you already have.
    • “As humans...we are arrogant to think we know what’s perfect for us. A soulmate doesn’t necessarily have to be an intimate partner.” — [A, 28:39]
    • “There’s no waste in the universe. The fact that your life is the way it is, that’s what’s meant to be at the moment.” — [A, 29:00]
  • Callers and hosts agree: heartbreak and temptation are universal, but living authentically means shutting down fantasy if it endangers what’s most important.

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3. The Jeff Dollar Paradox: Off-Air vs On-Stage

Timestamps: 33:34–45:00

• Hosts tease Jeff for his sugar high:

  • “Jeff is the only one in the room that doesn’t like, drink coffee, doesn’t have caffeine.... He’s high on sugar right now.” — [A, 33:56]

• Exploring Jeff’s Personality:

  • They playfully analyze “the many layers” of Jeff: mild-mannered and verbose off-stage, but a hyped “Grandmaster Jeff” during public events.
  • “This is Mr. Hyde coming up.” — [A, 38:18]

• Clips of Jeff at Club Vision:

  • Listeners and co-hosts are floored by Jeff’s transformation into a boisterous, party-rocking emcee, ordering the crowd to “make some noise!”
    • “That is not our Jeff right there, man.” — [C, 39:13]
    • “Who are you? ... Who is that guy and what did he do with Jeff?” — [F/A, 39:18]
  • Live caller: “He was Dr. Jekyll in this high. When he's on the Burt show every day I listen, he is so calm...But Saturday night, it was all about Jeff.” — [F, 41:27]
  • The team jokes about Jeff becoming the “disco evangelist” and imagines his Saturday night club gig as a religious revival.

• Jeff’s Own Take:

  • He explains that being on stage suits his introversion, since “I’m perfectly happy talking to people and they can’t talk back.” — [B, 38:21]
  • The segment is peppered with self-mockery, laughter, and mock-seriousness about Jeff’s “VIP” energy and his “savant” transition from radio calm to party emcee.

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Notable Quotes (with Timestamps)

• On Church Dress Codes & Judgment:

  • “Church isn’t supposed to be a fashion show...but I mean, again, in church, that’s...when you...yeah. I don’t think anybody’s gonna ask you to leave for something being two inches above the knee.” — [A, 04:47]
  • “We were always taught to love anyone who comes in our church, no matter what.” — [F/Ashley, 06:34]
  • “My priest is just happy to fill pews...as long as I am there, he is happy. And if I don’t show up...he’d be like, ‘why don’t you come in your underwear?’” — [F/Brandy, 11:32]

• On Soulmates & Relationship Dilemmas:

  • “It’s torturous no matter what. It just kills my insides.” — [D, 17:33]
  • “If you’re not in tune with yourself, how can you recognize a soulmate when you don’t even recognize your own?” — [A, 20:37]
  • “If I knew my husband was laying there with me thinking about another woman, how would you feel?” — [A, 26:57]
  • “As humans...we are arrogant to think we know what’s perfect for us. A soulmate doesn’t necessarily have to be an intimate partner.” — [A, 28:39]

• On Public Persona vs Private Self:

  • “Once you put a microphone in Jeff Dollar’s hand and he gets up on any stage...he becomes Grandmaster Jeff.” — [C, 36:07]
  • “Who is that guy and what did he do with Jeff?” — [A, 39:18]
  • “You are the disco evangelist...when did he graduate from seminary?” — [C/F, 44:05]

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Segment Timestamps for Quick Reference

• Church Stories (judgment, inclusion vs exclusion): 01:32–14:45
• Soulmate Dilemmas, Emotional Affairs, Relationship Talk: 14:45–30:41
• Jeff Dollar: Sugar Highs & Stage Persona: 33:34–45:00

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Summary & Takeaways

• Authenticity Reigns: Whether it’s clothes at church, handling forbidden love, or decrypting a colleague’s alter ego, the Bert Show crew and listeners bring raw, honest stories to the table.
• Community & Humor: Difficult or awkward topics are tackled with empathy, but always keep room for lighthearted banter (and a little self-roasting).
• Philosophical, Not Theoretical: Even “soulmates” gets the real-world test, and assumptions about religion, relationships, and even our own personalities are up for questioning.

The Bert Show once again delivers a mix of laughs, introspection, and truly memorable listener stories, making for an engaging and compelling episode for fans old and new.

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Transcript

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[B]

Hey, the Birch Show.

[C]

When you think about it, there are only a few things that you could really get kicked out of church for, right?

[A]

Yeah, we were talking about off air where maybe a noise violation of some kind. Maybe if you had a big huge hat, they asked you to move to the back or something. If you were blocking everybody's view with.

[C]

Your big old Easter hat. I mean there's got to be a case where somebody showed up just completely hammered to church and was either singing too loud or doing something stupid. Kicked you out for that.

[A]

Because I'm thinking on Easter because it's a day where more people go to church. The one timers you Know, like they only go to church to listen to, you know, Christmas, you know, carols. And then they go to Easter because their family's forcing them to go.

[C]

The pressure.

[A]

So when you talk about being hammered, I mean, I could totally see where there's somebody that parties Saturday night and then rolled in and mom's like, no, you aren't going to.

[B]

How about being hammered at the midnight Christmas mass? Like you go to your Christmas Eve party. Yeah, right, it's got a midnight mass. Yeah.

[A]

Because on Easter they have sunrise services. So they have usually services about the time of the sunrise. So four, five, six o' clock in the morning.

[C]

But I couldn't think of any longer walk of shame than being kicked out of church. Good morning, Colleen. You're on all the hits q100.

[F]

Morning guys.

[C]

Good morning.

[F]

Yeah, it was pretty embarrassing walking out yesterday.

[C]

That could happen to you.

[A]

Why?

[F]

And what was worse was I was with my boyfriend and his family was somewhere in the church. And as far as they know, we were still there. But then he and I were asked to leave.

[A]

What happened?

[B]

You guys making out?

[F]

No, it was because of what I had on. Can you believe this?

[C]

Oh, you're kidding.

[A]

What'd you have on?

[F]

Well, I mean it was, it was a mini skirt. I mean, no different than what you would wear to dinner. It wasn't like I was, you know, in a mini skirt that I was going to walk the streets in, but it was a mini skirt and the top was all right, I thought. And some lady came up to me, she was dressed in a suit, you know, quite conservative. She had on a name tag. So I figured she was somebody important, you know, usher or something. And she said I needed to leave.

[A]

Well, I mean, you have to understand the standards. And when you say your miniskirt is okay, just the word miniskirt in church by itself. I'm not even a part of that church. And I can tell you that's. I mean, because the chance, the standards in church are a little more, a lot more conservative than just going out to dinner.

[C]

I guess I have two thoughts. Is like one thought is you should be able to wear whatever you want to church because under the eyes of God, I mean, just so long as you're there, he's pretty cool about it. But the other one is you got a lot of kids and stuff there. So if you're wearing like this low cut top and this miniskirt, you got a whole bunch of kids around. I could see how the church could be sensitive to that.

[A]

And I think also the issue with dressing up, and I agree with what you're saying, but I think the issue of dressing up is showing of respect. Like, it's a respect, you know, value to go into the church because you are going into God's house and you need to be at your best to show God your best. And I guess that a low cut shirt and a mini skirt is not necessarily being respectful.

[C]

Who. Now, you said it was an usher that came up to you. Did she whisper it to you or did she say it to where other people could hear?

[F]

She said it where other people could hear. I mean, she had this attitude like, you don't belong here because you're not dressed appropriately. She said, now you can go home and change clothes and come back. And I mean, when I say miniskirt, it wasn't, you know, like 2 inches from my rear. It was more like 2 inches from my knees or 3 inches from my knees. It wasn't that bad.

[B]

What?

[C]

Melissa?

[A]

No, I said. But I mean, again, in church, that's. I mean, when you. Yeah. I don't think anybody's gonna ask you to leave for something being two inches above the knee.

[F]

But here, again, church isn't supposed to be a fashion show. It's like going in.

[A]

I agree with you there.

[B]

It depends on the religion. There are religions where you cannot, like women cannot. Their shoulders have to be covered and their sleeves have to be below the elbow.

[F]

Well, this is a Baptist church. And the hypocrisy kind of. Because I know some of the people and I know some of what they do outside the church.

[A]

Kick me out of church. Let me tell you, she was doing so.

[F]

I mean, church is about going. And you're there for the purpose of worshiping God, not to pass judgment and throw stones.

[A]

Did your family say anything to you? Like you said your family was in the church somewhere and probably saw you got kicked out. Did they say anything after the fact?

[F]

As far as I know, they still.

[C]

Don'T know if they were in the church and you got booted out. They know. That's great.

[A]

Vaughn, did you see that woman?

[F]

Yeah, that's true. So, I mean, it's pretty embarrassing overall.

[C]

Hold on one second here, Colleen. Hey, Ashley, you're on all the hits. Q100.

[F]

Hey, how are you guys this morning?

[A]

Hey.

[F]

I just wanted to know what church these people are going to. How hypocritical.

[C]

Yeah. What part of the city were you. And I don't want to call out your church. I just want to know what part.

[F]

Of the city I'M in Douglasville.

[C]

In Douglasville.

[F]

I was raised here, actually. And I always wondered what people's problems with were going to church. And now I know. I mean, we've had strippers, drunk people, hookers, everything in our church.

[B]

I want to know the name of your church.

[F]

The church of Cheetah LifePoint Ministries in Douglasville, Georgia.

[C]

And they'll let say. How does that make you feel, Colleen? They'll let anybody in her church. But you got booted out for having a miniskirt that was three inches above your knee.

[B]

I think. Hey, Colleen, I think Ashley just invited you to the church of strippers and hookers.

[F]

I think that's the place they need to go next time then. We were always taught to love anyone who comes in our church, no matter what. And nobody would ever get kicked out of our church unless they were just blatantly loud and cussing at the preacher during the middle of service, you know, and even then he would be asked to go and speak with someone else, not just to leave.

[C]

Colleen, how does this work? They come up to you and they say something to you and then they escort you out, or you just have to get up with your boyfriend and walk out yourself.

[F]

We had to get up and walk out on our own. But she made sure, she stood there to make sure that we weren't coming back in. Or I mean, her eyes. You could feel her eyes on my back the entire time.

[A]

Whoa.

[B]

Embarrassing. Because there's no shirt between her eyes and your back, so you can feel the burn even more.

[C]

Hey, Stacey, you're on all the hits. Q100.

[F]

Oh, my gosh. I'm sorry, I'm just listening to this. It's so wrong that she asked you to leave. I'm from California and like what people wore was never discussion. Once I moved down here to the south, all the skirts have to be to the knee, all the shirts have to be down. I was like 12 years old and I'm like 6ft at 12. And I'm like, you know, definitely not a young looking kind of girl. And they actually asked me to like cover up that like totally affects a 12 year old. And I gotta be honest, that's because you guys live here in the south. And I guess I do too now. But that's what you're dealing with. Cause church is for everyone.

[B]

It's not a bad thing.

[F]

No, but like, church is for everyone. Like yesterday I was at church and there was a guy, totally drunk sitting there. But like he's there, so what's it matter?

[B]

Well, how's he dressed?

[C]

Yeah. Did he have a miniskirt on?

[F]

Well, Melissa, if you're not like sitting that little standard of like, you know, the big hat and the skirt and the dress that come down your knee, then like they want you to leave. It's horrible.

[A]

Well, I mean, first of all, I don't think it's just a Southern thing.

[F]

It mostly is. I've lived in New York, I've lived in Jersey, I've lived in California.

[A]

There's no other conservative churches in the country.

[F]

But in the south about COVID up. It's horrible.

[B]

I think it's. I agree. I think it's a Southern thing.

[A]

It is a Southern thing. So many spirits and Catholic churches in the Northeast would be allowed are more.

[B]

Tolerated than they are.

[F]

Very much more so.

[A]

And secondly, I also wanted to say that that is also drawing a broad brush along all churches because these are. Yes, most churches are conservative like that, but there are churches in Atlanta that would not be this anal about. You're right.

[F]

You're right.

[A]

So you can't say churches in the south or, you know, this is this one church this person got kicked out of. I'm sure there's others, but there are plenty of churches in town that will let you wear whatever you want to wear.

[F]

I'm saying that like the dress code issue, I mean, I went to a Christian school here in Georgia and I never had a problem with it when I was in Catholic school in California or New York. And even though we wore uniforms at all these schools, like the dress, the uniforms had to be down to like an inch above the knee here in the south where if I'm 6ft tall, that's like impossible.

[A]

Well, speaking of strippers, there's a lot of strippers that do wear the Catholic school uniforms too. So that's good.

[F]

It's more of a southern thing. The dress code issue in general, like, they definitely cover up and it's like a. I don't know, it's like sin to show your shoulders. It's horrible.

[C]

That's because the devil is running California. Good morning. All the hits Q100. Hello, Lisa.

[A]

Hello.

[C]

Good morning.

[F]

Good morning.

[A]

Hi.

[C]

Who's this?

[F]

This is Paula.

[C]

Hey, Paula.

[F]

Hello. My three month old daughter and I got kicked out of my nephew's christening service.

[B]

Oh, no.

[C]

What did she do?

[F]

Well, you know, I mean, I'm from a Catholic church, so we have like a cry room in the back for babies that are fussing and you know, we were the guests of honor. We were on the Very first row of the church. And she wasn't crying. She just was in that, you know, kind of coo, baby wiggly stage. So during the sermon, I had walked to the back and kind of jostled her and played with her and such. And then when it came time for the actual christening, I went back and joined the family. And she was still, you know, kind of cooing and smiling and laughing, and she was not crying or in any way screaming. And the minister from the pulpit, just as they were about to christen, my nephew turned to me and says, you need to take her out. And I looked at. And he pointed to this little side door, and I looked at him, and I looked at the door, and I picked her up, and I picked up all of our stuff, and I made a. Took a good long time about it. And I walked right down the center of the aisle. And as the church let out, I stood there at the door right next to the minister where he was greeting everyone. And I am not kidding you. There must have been 50 people who apologized for his bad behavior.

[A]

Wow, that would have made me so mad, because then she didn't get to see her nephew get christened.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

But I do like the way that she. When she started the story. Well, how old was the child? I forgot. Three months. Three months. I love how she introduced the child first. My three month old. And I like, you know, she's still kind of like, it's my three months old.

[C]

Well, there is. You will never see a mother run quicker than when her child starts crying in church. Man, that's happened with Hayden. I mean, as soon as he starts making a noise, Stacey is bam.

[A]

Out of that responsible mother. There have been plenty of mothers in church that did not take their child out.

[C]

Hey, Brandy, you're on all the hits Q100.

[F]

Hey, I just wanted to talk about that lady a few minutes ago who said it's a southern thing. Everyone kind of ticked me off because I am southern and I am Catholic. And I'm gonna tell you something. My priest is just happy to fill pews on a Sunday morning. He does not care if I come in there in hot pants and a tank top. As long as I am there, he is happy. And if I don't show up, if I try to use the excuse my laundry's dirty, he'd be like, well, why don't you come in your underwear? I mean, he does not care.

[C]

Hey, Colleen, did you hear that?

[F]

I like that one.

[C]

Maybe we need to get you her phone number so you can go to her church where that. That's all right.

[B]

If you own any hot pants, that is, you know.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

All right.

[C]

Thank you for calling.

[F]

No problem.

[C]

Bye bye.

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[B]

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[C]

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[D]

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[A]

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[D]

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Really? Tell us about it.

[D]

I've been married 17 years. I have four kids. And I met this person four years ago, and I met him through a group of people. And as soon as I met him, I knew he was the one. And I'm not the kind of person that believes in that kind of thing, but I had to go into the bathroom and sit on the toilet and take a deep breath, and I knew that I'd never met this guy in my life. And he did something to my skull. He did something deep inside that just blew my mind.

[A]

Now, you said that you met him about four years ago. So that's about, what, 14 years into your marriage? And so, you know, just kind of being on the opposite side of the coin. Are you sure this is not just some kind of infatuation because you're bored with your marriage?

[D]

Well, that's what, you know, that's what my girlfriend said. And, you know, since then, you know, we tried to stay away from each other and that kind of thing because it's wrong. But now, you know. Was I bored in my marriage? No, my marriage was fine. I mean, you know, I've known my husband for 18 years or so, and we're very compatible. And, you know, I loved him, but when I met somebody that did that to me, I knew that that person. No one's ever touched my soul like that. And I've met many other people since then, and nobody has ever had that kind of effect on me.

[C]

That's gotta be torture for you.

[D]

It's terrible. It's absolutely terrible.

[A]

Now, you said you tried not to see each other. Did you see each other?

[D]

We saw each other. And because I was married, you know, we just. We couldn't. I mean, he just had Issues with the situation.

[A]

Sure.

[C]

Yeah, I can understand that.

[A]

So you're saying you had an affair with him?

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

You did. See, I think I'm trying to put myself in your position, and it's impossible to empathize with you. But I think if I know that I actually know who my soulmate is, but I'm not married to that person, I would, in my mind, have to say that person is dead to me. Like, I would have to totally eliminate any kind of contact whatsoever because it would be torturous.

[D]

It's torturous no matter what. It just kills my insides. Absolutely kills my insides. But my family and my children are the most important thing to me, and I have to do what I have to do. But it's torture no matter what. It's terrible. Absolutely terrible.

[A]

What if your husband had come. Just out of curiosity, if your husband had come to you and said that he had met who he thinks is his soulmate and that you're not it, how would you want him to handle that?

[C]

Oh, God, that would crush me.

[F]

Crush me.

[D]

Well, you know, one. Because.

[C]

Here I am being crushed right before your eyes.

[A]

So.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

So how would. How would you want him to handle. Like, I'm just curious. From the.

[D]

If it never happened to me, I would be crushed. If it never happened to me, I wouldn't be able to understand it. And I would say to him, you know, I would be devastated. I mean, I wouldn't understand it. I would be crushed. Like Bert said, I would have been crushed. But because it's happened to me and because I love him as a person, I would want him to be happy, and I would understand it. Would I be upset? Of course I'd be upset, because we've invested, you know, so many years into the marriage. But since it's happened to me, I know what it feels like.

[C]

But how could you even argue. You know what, though? In looking at it realistically, how could you even argue with that, thinking that if Stacy came to me and said, you know what? I love you, however, there's somebody I'm more in love with. There. Somebody is my soulmate, and he's the guy that fixed the vents in our house all the time?

[B]

Jason, it's no coincidence that something keeps.

[C]

Getting stuck in the air conditioner mode, then how could. I mean, while I would certainly be hurt and crushed by that, there would. At one point, I'd have to say, well, if you think that he is perfect for you, I can't fight that. You've got no defense for that.

[D]

I Don't have any defense. And that's what my point was, that if he came to me and said that, and they know he loves me as a person, but he's searching and he was lucky enough. See, I don't think that happens with everybody. I think sometimes you're just lucky enough to meet that person, and maybe it is destiny. I don't know why I met this person, because all it has is caused me a pain. But if he came to me and told me that this isn't how he feels.

[C]

Hold on one sec. Because I have a feeling here. Melissa's not buying that you met your soulmate, so go ahead.

[A]

It's not you. And this is certainly not directed at you at all. I guess, you know, my feeling is sometimes with. Well, two thoughts came to mind. Number one, I think the danger in the theory of a soulmate is the. Is like, yeah, not taking responsibility. And again, this is not directed to you because you stayed with your marriage, so this is not at you. But I think that some people have the soulmate theory. Then that's. They're almost disregarding the people they're with. Like, I'm not talking about marriage. Like, oh, I'm out there to find my soulmate. So they totally disregard the person they're with because they're thinking the perfect person's out there. Secondly, they think that it doesn't take work to be with somebody if you're with your soulmate, which is not true. And also, I think for people who don't really pay attention to their spirituality or their souls on a daily basis who aren't in tune with themselves, then how in the world can you recognize a soulmate when you don't even recognize your own? You know what I'm saying?

[D]

Because they're incapable. I think my husband and I think there's probably 50% of the people out there I believe are incapable. They don't know how to do that. They don't. I think sometimes you're given a gift that sometimes you're too sensitive for your own good, and you feel things that you shouldn't be feeling. You wish that you didn't. I mean, I truly wish that I don't. I didn't feel the things that I did. But when someone touches your soul, if you try to describe that to your boyfriend or your mate or your husband, they look at you like you have four heads, right? It's, you know, they're incapable. They're not. They're not. I don't know if it's lucky or they're cursed, you know, but you know, it's not. I understand what you're saying. You know, I do understand what you're saying. And believe me, four years ago, I would be listening to you saying, I agree with you. But fortunately or unfortunately, I've been one of the ones that have. I mean, it blew my mind. It just blew my mind. Was not expecting it. Had to go into the bathroom, sat on the toilet. One of my girlfriends came in and said, said to me, what's wrong? I said, oh, my gosh. And the guy was okay looking. He wasn't, you know, a knockout. The guy did something to me that nobody has ever done in my life. Now, will that happen to my husband in the future? I don't know. Based on the way he is, I don't think that he can ever open up spiritually. But maybe later on in life he will. And, you know, I don't know.

[C]

Thank you for calling. I gotta move on because we got a bunch of other people that want to. But thank you for the insight.

[D]

All right, Have a good day.

[A]

Good morning.

[C]

All the hits. Q100. Hi, you're on the voice disguiser.

[D]

Hi, guys.

[A]

Hey.

[C]

Hi.

[F]

This.

[D]

This happened to me. I'm married. I've been married for six years. Happily. And I love my husband. We have a child. I. I've never talked to anyone other than my soulmate about this. It's like the last caller said, it's not something that you're capable of understanding unless it happened to you.

[C]

Let's back up and get a couple more details. You want to ask something?

[A]

No, I was. I don't know if you want to go further back. I was just going to ask her where she met the guy.

[D]

Actually, a little over three years ago, I took a job, and three months into the job, I started to work on a project with him. And it was very involved. There were, you know, there was a lot of overtime and lunches, and we just worked very closely together. And before, I mean, I knew that there was something with him before we started working on this project, he was very nice and friendly. There was no attraction, like, oh, this man. This is a, you know, a stunning man, or anything like that. We started working on this project, and it just. One day, I was just like.

[A]

I.

[D]

Meant to be with this man.

[C]

What did you do about that? Did you guys start to have an affair also?

[D]

Oh, no, we've never had an affair. It's always been very professional. You know, like a kiss on the cheek or a hug, but nothing he also is married. I only have one child, and he has three. We've discussed it over and over again in depth, and we both just decided that, you know, we're married. We have children. It's not fair to the children. We were married for better or for worse.

[B]

So you've discussed it with him. So he thinks that you're his soulmate as well?

[D]

Oh, yeah.

[C]

And he thinks you're his soulmate.

[D]

Oh, yeah.

[C]

And it's just kind of. And you guys have agreed it's just a sad situation that you're with other people.

[D]

I try not to look at it as sad because I love my husband and. But there's a long. You know, I have a longing inside. Sometimes when I'm with my husband or lying in bed and I feel like my husband emotionally isn't kind of there for me, I think about this man.

[B]

And I wish that you think about this guy when you're lying in bed with your husband at times.

[A]

Let me ask a question. And this is. How would you answer if someone said, well, kind of two things. One, if you were truly meant to be, wouldn't the universe have put you with him as your husband? And two, why does a soulmate have to be somebody that you're intimate with? I mean, if you're meant to be. Well, you're together, you're friends. Why does it have to be more than that?

[D]

Well, you know, I understand what you're saying. I don't know what will happen in the future. I just know that the choice that he and I have made now is that, you know, we're married. I'm. You know, I'm married. He's married. We have children. And it won't happen right now. I don't know what will happen in the future. Then I share every intimate detail of my life with this man, and vice versa.

[A]

He.

[C]

Let me stop you right there for a second, because I'm flashing back to a conversation that we had here on this show about six months ago. Everything is six months ago in my life.

[B]

It could have been a week four years ago.

[C]

And it was a new term that I wasn't aware of, but it was called emotional affair. Now, what you said was that when you lay next to your husband, he emotionally can't give you what this soulmate guy is giving you. Aren't you having an emotional affair with this guy, even though you guys aren't intimate with each other?

[D]

I don't. I don't believe so, because I believe that if I was gonna have. I don't believe that I have. I mean, I feel like I could very easily have already had an affair with this man and I choose not to and I won't.

[C]

It's almost as, to me, what you're doing is almost as betraying as sleeping with somebody else. If you're divulging all those intimate details of your life with your husband to this soulmate guy, you might as well be. That to me is a form of infidelity.

[A]

And not to be a broken record, but, you know, again, I always try to flip. Flip the coin. If you knew your husband was laying there with you thinking about another woman, how would you feel? I mean, would you think he's having an affair?

[D]

No. I see that. It's like the last caller said, you just. Unless it's happened to you, it's difficult too. I see this man all the time at my job. There are times when it's not because, you know, I've determined in my head that I'm with my husband and I'm happy with my husband. It's not like I was out looking for some kind of fulfillment other than that it just kind of happened.

[C]

And this isn't, this isn't torturous for you on a day to day basis?

[A]

No.

[D]

There are times when it can really get to me. There really, really are. But like I said, the relationship that I have with this man and that, you know, what I set in my heart that, you know, I have a family and I have a child and I think about my child. We put my child first.

[C]

Yeah. I don't know if there's anything else to ask. I just think as. I think it's just natural. As human beings, maybe this is more a guy thing than a woman thing, that we're always looking for something better, you know, And I think it would be torturous if you actually found the thing that you thought was perfect for you and it was there in front of you or next to you every single day and you couldn't be with it.

[B]

It'd be interesting to know. It'd be interesting to know if these soulmates would have been soulmates if they met them outside of their marriage.

[D]

I wish. I wish I would have met this man before I met my husband.

[B]

But I wonder if the attraction would have been there. I wonder if he's only more. It's the grass is always greener.

[D]

No, I know. It would have been like in my heart I know. And I do.

[A]

I do wish and I don't know. I think sometimes it's I think we, as humans. You talk about human nature, Bert. I think sometimes as humans, we are arrogant to think we know what's perfect for us. I think that, again, a soulmate doesn't necessarily have to be an intimate partner.

[C]

That's a great point.

[D]

I don't think it. I don't. I don't know unless it's happened to you and you.

[A]

But I'm saying that to me, and my philosophy is that there's no waste in the universe. There's no wasteful moments. There's no wasteful experiences. And so, I mean, the fact that your life is the way it is, whether it's bad or good, that's what's meant to be at the moment. Whatever you're doing right now, you were meant to do it or you wouldn't be doing it.

[C]

And didn't you feel at first, when you. When you met your husband, that he was the perfect one for you?

[D]

I think I did until I experienced this man. It's a totally different thing.

[C]

Okay.

[D]

I don't know. You know, I thought, I love my husband. I do. But I never really thought. I never thought about it with anyone to really think about. Some people really believe in, like, soulmates. Now.

[F]

I do.

[D]

I never thought about it before.

[C]

I appreciate your honesty.

[A]

Thank you for calling.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Really appreciate it.

[A]

I'm like you, though. If I. If I truly was in the situation she was in and I was working with the person every day, I think I'd try to find another job. I could do that to myself.

[C]

I couldn't be around that. I couldn't be around that kind of temptation every single day because I would be able to justify an affair in my mind by saying, well, at least I'm doing the right thing by staying with my wife, even though I'm supposed to be with this other person, I'm doing the right thing. I'm not leaving. You know, And I think, at least for me, when I met Stacy, I thought, this is the perfect person for me, you know? And it's so easy to justify a soulmate by saying, oh, no, no, no, no. This is really the perfect person for me.

[A]

I just wonder if they'll say, going back on kind of what Jeff said, would they still be. Let's say one of these women left her husband for their soulmate. Would he still be her soulmate after she's lived with him for 17 years?

[C]

Maybe we're just cynical. Maybe we're just cynical.

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[C]

What are you so giddy about? You've got that look on your face over there like, it's just sugar.

[A]

He had another cookie. Sugar. It's not good for Jeff.

[B]

I don't think it.

[C]

I just think, like, Diana's cookies making you all crazy.

[A]

Because you have to understand listeners. Jeff is the only one in the room that doesn't, like, drink coffee, doesn't have caffeine. He doesn't get this, like, this jolt of energy like the rest of us do.

[C]

Jeff doesn't like to put anything in his body that's not pure.

[A]

Right. And so he. So Diane, of course, was kind enough to send us a thank you gift for having her on the show. And it was cake and cookies. And so Jeff is. Yeah, he's high on sugar right now.

[C]

Let's take a second here and just dissect the very. The Jeff dollar. Okay. Right now, normally, no, it's gonna take.

[B]

You more than a second. I'm like an onion.

[C]

This, by the way, I got an email from her yesterday.

[B]

Really?

[C]

By Lindsay? Yeah, this is normally Jeff$. On any given day here. This is just some random clip. That's what she used to say all the time.

[A]

No, but it was a good email.

[B]

Yeah. Tell us for a quick second at least. Is she doing good? Is she.

[C]

I'll tell you that later. Let's focus on you, and we know how much you hate that.

[B]

All right, go ahead.

[C]

All right, so this is just a clip from Jeff on any given day, rambling about what Jeff rambles about.

[B]

That's what is gonna suck, is when, you know, like, you don't see anything in the commercial, but then you see, you know, the guys, the camera guys did, and I can't stand this. And people don't understand this because, you know, we do. We're on the radio or whatever. So like when you go to a wedding and the freaking videographer shoves the camera in your face, hey, say something nice about the bride and groom. Like, I freeze every time. Well, they did that when we were up at the Walmart for her signing all over the place with that.

[A]

Huh?

[C]

Just kind of. Just one intriguing story after the next.

[B]

Obviously, no sugar that day.

[C]

Kind of Mellow in his delivery. Sometimes he's a little drawn out. Okay, that is the Jeff Dollar that we have come to know and love.

[A]

The one who belabors over the minute details that don't really matter anyway, Right?

[B]

The minutia.

[C]

Once again, proving my point. That is Jeff Dollar until you put a microphone in Jeff Dollar's hand and he gets up on any stage.

[A]

Correct. Now, we've seen this before, but I think maybe the listeners could have become aware of this. Music Midtown pops into my mind. I know that during Music Midtown, you know, of course, it was the first year we had our own stage. And so we had to go up and introduce some of the musical talents that were on our stage. And Jeff, like, I mean, take a back seat, because Jeff Dollar's gonna take control of the stage.

[C]

He becomes Grandmaster Jeff. The first time I ever saw it was. I think it was Frosty the Showman at the Tabernacle. And he comes out there and. And we'd only been working with each other for a couple of months, and he gets on stage with that mic and all of a sudden he becomes a different Jeff. Yeah, he's commanding the crowd. He's getting out there, he's trying to get all crunk.

[A]

And this is the same Jeff. If he's in the crowd, he won't talk to you. He goes in a corner, he tries to find another room. He wants to get as far away from you as possible.

[B]

I have a special shirt that actually has velvet ropes sticking out of it, so people don't even get near me. People are two foot away.

[C]

Now, Saturday night, I wasn't listening to all the hits Q100, but Jeff was out at Vision doing what Jeff Miles usually does. Does a live broadcast from Vision. I didn't get to hear it. Well, on Monday, when I'm walking the halls, Dylan, the program director and guy comes on at 3 o', clock, says, did you catch Jeff Dollar at Vision on Saturday night? I said, no, I have no idea what you're talking about. And he's like. He turns into a completely different guy. I mean, you should have heard him. And I'm like, oh, yeah, I've seen that before. He said, it's really funny. You ought to play clips of it on the radio. So I said, all right, maybe we'll do that. So I go into Tracy and I said, tracy, Dylan has an idea because Jeff was at Vision. And Tracy stops. She gets so excited. She's like, oh, my God, did you.

[F]

Hear him on Saturday night?

[A]

It was so funny. We Were driving home Saturday night and we were in the car and we hear Jeff come on. All of a sudden we just looked at each other. And I got so embarrassed that I.

[D]

Actually went into the fetal position.

[C]

All right, now, had you been drinking at this point or was this just normal?

[B]

It depends on what time the clip's timed. Cause if you tell me, like, I think it just took a spiral, but I gotta be honest with you, I'm very proud of this.

[A]

Okay. No, well, the very one that I labeled one was probably around 11:12ish, I guess. And that was the one I was even embarrassed for. And then it just got worse.

[C]

All I have is Jeff at Vision two and Jeff at Vision three.

[A]

Okay. The one that's not labeled, then the very first one.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

This one, the one of the. There are two that got two that I got screwed up and those. Yeah, I wish they never happened.

[C]

It's not so much that you get screwed up that we're focusing on here. It's just that your personality is so not the guy we know on a day to day basis.

[B]

All right, go ahead.

[A]

You are the antithesis of you, right?

[C]

You're anti Jeff.

[B]

Anti Jeff.

[A]

This is Mr. Hyde coming up.

[B]

But keep in mind, I'm up on a stage with Mike B. No one can touch me, talk to me. I like Mike B. He's a friend. So I am perfectly happy talking to people and they can't talk back. Like, do you have any idea how great this show would be if you guys just left the studio and it was just me?

[C]

Let's try it. Hold on.

[A]

Try it. Yeah.

[C]

It'S all yours.

[B]

Just show me where the vision button is. I'll play it over and over. This is number two, live from Vision in midtown. Saturday night Q. All the hits. Q100 party. Like Mike B. Throws a party. We are live in vision. Vision Saturdays.com. we are on all the hits, Q100. And anybody who somebody is in fidget tonight, make some noise.

[F]

Oh, my God.

[C]

That's not our Jeff right there, man.

[A]

Oh, my God.

[F]

Who are you?

[B]

Who is that guy and what did he do with Jeff?

[A]

I just want to yell. I'm like, yes, sir. Okay, sir. Yes, sir.

[B]

Did you. Were you compelled to make some noise? In this case, it was laughter. I mean, Saturday night at 12:30 in the morning, there was a lot of cheering.

[A]

Okay, wait a second. Do you have this, like, thing that comes over you, like, where once you walk into the club, you hear the music? Like, do you feel the Incredible Hulk coming ripped out of The.

[B]

No, see, here's what I think it is. Like, Burt. Ever since Burt's been doing radio, he's been doing mornings. You know, personality type mornings where he's just, you know, talked and kind of do what we do, you know. Here, Melissa, you know, she's got a news background and a great experience @ Turner and CNN. And Jen slept with someone. So you don't have. Like, I used to. Like, I used to have to do this. And then I totally forgot about it. Like, when I was, you know, it was really different at Roman's Pub in Syracuse, New.

[C]

York. Were you that guy at Roman's Pub.

[B]

Also? They didn't make so much noise there. There were only like, nine.

[C]

People. You became your own reverb guy. You said, welcome to Vision.

[B]

Vision. No, I. Sorry. Go ahead, play it.

[A]

Again.

[C]

Something. Well, there's plenty more. We don't have to play the same one. Here we go. This is the one that Tracy was talking about in the.

[B]

Beginning. In life. Slim productions and visionsaturdays.com throwing the party tonight. Everybody in Atlanta is coming to Vision this evening. I don't care where you're headed. Turn the car around. You come down to Vision Midtown Atlanta tonight. All the beautiful ladies are here. Guys, everybody tan. Everybody's dressed for the summer. Why are you going anywhere else? Because you know you're gonna end up here. Vicious meets out Atlanta. The real world, San Diego. In the house tonight on all the hits Q100. Yeah, see, I'm gonna have to critique myself. I didn't like that one. It wasn't loud.

[A]

Enough. Everybody's got.

[B]

It.

[C]

Yeah. You sounded like a car salesman. You've got to turn your car around. I will stand on my head to get you out on the.

[F]

Dance. I don't care where you.

[A]

Are. You turn the car.

[B]

Around.

[E]

Boys.

[B]

Yeah. I gotta tell you, I'm not loud.

[C]

Enough. Annette, you're on all the hits.

[F]

Q100. Hey, I was listening between 10 and midnight on Saturday. And I could not believe that was the same Jeff on the morning show. He was feeling it. He was Dr. Jekyll in this high. When he's on the Burt show every day I listen. He is so calm and he's always thinking things through like. Like, who is that, Melissa? Jen said he's always trying to get to the most insignificant minute pulpit. But Saturday night, it was all about Jeff. He just turned into such a totally different.

[B]

Person. Would you say that it was off the.

[F]

Hook? It was off the hook. It was off the chain. He was totally. He Was jamming. I couldn't believe it. I could not believe that was.

[B]

Jeff Dollar might be in the house with Jeff Dollar from the first show. Yo, Jeff, you're out in the crowd there. Yo, how's it feeling out there? We got beautiful people in the house tonight. If you feel it might be, make some.

[C]

Noise. That is not.

[D]

You. Who is that.

[F]

Guy? He's in the.

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Crowd. In the crowd next to.

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People. I didn't like that.

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One. In Jeff's defense, I was at.

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Vision Saturday night, and in Jeff's defense.

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He was standing up on the VIP on one of the couches overlooking the crowd, and he totally has the mic turned up like he's a.

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Rapper. He's like, we're my.

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People. I have.

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Fun. He'd do the fist pump.

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Thing. He did the mic upside down.

[B]

Thing. I don't know how. Yeah, I guess I.

[C]

Do. It's just automatic. He couldn't help it. And he's just looking over the crowd, bowing up, looking at.

[B]

Everybody. Everybody having fun. Yeah. Yeah, it was awesome. And you know what? I know that 90% of the crowd was like, who's the fat kid in the pajama top? But I don't care. I love it. And you know what? I'm there again this.

[C]

Saturday. Oh, really?

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Yeah. And who wants to go vip? I'll look it.

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Up. It is. I mean, yeah, it is a.

[C]

Gift, I guess I'm just saying it's not the same. I'm not saying it's.

[B]

Bad.

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No. I'm just saying it's not the guy we.

[A]

Know. Because I know, like, going back to Music Midnight because we've seen him do it at every event we have. Like, I think at Bitterball, you're doing the same thing. But I just know that there was a time when the bird show wasn't even scheduled to go on stage at Music Midtown to introduce somebody. Tracy St. George was. But she had witnessed Jeff Dollar's stage presence, and she just handed him the microphone. Oh.

[B]

Hell. At Music Midtown. I got up on the V103 stage once. They didn't know who the hell. Like, who is that? Who's the white fat kid in the pajama.

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Top? Chris, go ahead. Yo. At all the hits Q100, that second one was.

[F]

Great. Jeff. I thought I was back in Tennessee at my grandma's.

[B]

Church. I didn't know whether to go buy a new car or to run out and get.

[A]

Saved. You know what you.

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Are? You are the disco.

[F]

Evangelist. Like, when did he graduate from seminary? I don't Remember Jeff going to.

[A]

Syracuse Seminary revival with Jeff. Three days.

[B]

Only. I gotta put up a tent in the parking lot of some little town, bring people in and save their souls, cure their.

[A]

Ills. That's what you should call Saturday night of.

[B]

Vision. Jeff's revival Jeff's revival this Saturday Night Vision 10pm Tim, go ahead.

[F]

Man. Hey guys, I just wanted to.

[B]

Let you know I'm sitting here at.

[F]

Work and I listened to that first one and all of a sudden I started screaming really.

[B]

Loud. Live from Vision in Midtown Saturday night Q all the hits Q100 party like Mike B throws a party. We are live@vision visionsaturdays.com we are on all the hits Q1 hundreds and anybody who somebody is in Vision tonight Make some noise. Get it the Bird.

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