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Melissa
The Birch Show. Talking to Tammy here, and this dude just didn't want to go out there again. She was too chatty. She didn't pay attention to what he was saying, that he had to get up early, and she kept him out late. So he just didn't want a second date, you know? So what does he do? He doesn't text her back, he doesn't call her back, and it's just assumed that there's not gonna be a second date. So the question really is, is that the way you do it? Is that the way you handle it? The most appropriate way, just letting it go? Or is there something you could say to make the other person know that, look, it's just not here. This is not gonna work here. But do it politely to where you don't come off looking, like, all nasty.
Jeff
It's just hard to say to someone. Yeah, isn't it? I mean, I don't know. I don't know the words to use to politely decline a second date.
Katie
There's the brush off, right? Like, where you just don't. Where you ignore them.
Jeff
Right.
Katie
But if you're gonna stop that, you have to come up with one line that ends it. Saving their feelings, but protecting you from having to avoid that person in the future.
Melissa
Hey, Tracy.
Tammy
Hey. Hey. Hey. Okay, so here's my beef. It's one thing. It's like. And I'm gonna preface, I'm married now and whatnot, but I lived in New York for a while, so I actually did the sex in the city kind of thing. And I dated quite a bit. And it got to the point where if I spent all my time going, why? Why didn't I Get a second date or why didn't I get a third date? You know, it's a waste of time. It's just, you know, it's a whole, like, if he's. If he's really not that into you kind of thing. There's some truth to that. And I do believe that honesty is the best policy. And it's not that you say, oh, look, sorry, no, I'm not going to call you. But as women, we need to get the hint that if we don't get the call back or if we don't get a text, it's like, move on. It's not like there's not 50 million other men out there that might be your perfect match. Because when we sit there and want all this closure and stuff, to the degree it makes us look like stalker women, it gives women a further bad name that, you know, we can't be strong, that we don't need men or that we, you know, we have to have men. And it's just like. Just get the clue. It's, you know, so he didn't call. I know it sucks, but just move on. And as guys, it's like, don't say you're gonna do something if you're not gonna do it. Don't say, hey, I'll give you a call if you're not gonna do it.
Melissa
So what would you rather?
Tammy
Have a great time. Thanks.
Melissa
What would you rather say?
Tammy
That I think it's up to us. I mean, we're all adults. Sometimes you just. I mean, people need to get a better clue.
Katie
So what's the line? Yeah, because what we're looking for is the line at the end of the date, the guy or the girl says, hey, I'd really love to see you again. What is the proper line?
Tammy
You just. I have to admit there, I'm not quite sure either, unfortunately. I mean, I think. Honestly. Yeah, you just. You just say honestly, hey, look, I had a great time. Thanks. And you just. You don't.
Katie
I don't want to see her anymore.
Tammy
I mean, fortunately, nobody wants to be the bad guy, but we're adults. People can't always be that clueless that. I mean. Yes, I have. I had several dates where I thought it went really well, and I never got a call back. And then there's times where, like, a guy thought we had a great date and he's calling and whatnot, and it's just like, dude, gotcha. You know?
Melissa
Thank you.
Jeff
I had a friend in New York who. She a friend of a friend who's he said good luck at the end of the date.
Tammy
Good luck.
Jeff
So see, don't you wish you could sign it off like on an email? Like when people just write best and then put their name like you wish you could say something like that.
Melissa
Like, I'm with.
Jeff
Sincerely, I would rather.
Melissa
I would rather not know, to be honest with you, and just. I would rather have you not text me and not call me. I'll get it within two days. If I don't get anything back in two days, it's over anyway. I don't want to know what I did wrong or what you interpret. Why I'm not for you. That's it.
Katie
We're talking about. We're talking about the after effects. I think we're looking for the line,
Jeff
but I honestly don't think there'll ever be one. I think we're all adults, whatever, we're all grown people who still have the emotions of a 10 year old. I mean, that's how life is. And I think that what Bert is saying and actually what that last caller was saying is the only realistic thing is you just have to get the clues. Like you have to get it and.
Katie
But then you have an awkward run.
Jeff
Too many people don't. Because you like the person. You want to go out with them again. But guess what? It's not gonna happen.
Katie
Especially if it's a friend situation, mutual friends. And you have the awkward run into them again. There should there. There needs to be a line that can be used that is, I would really love to see you again. And then. You know what? I don't think we hit it off. You know what? You had a big old chunk of lettuce in your teeth.
Jeff
I used to do that with somebody they just knew.
Katie
Then we need to find a different line.
Melissa
I don't think it works. I don't think we're gonna find the right line because it also seems too brutal.
Jeff
It all seems too mean to say.
Katie
Terrible oral hygiene. Really? No, I just don't think we hit it off.
Melissa
Hey, amber, you're on Q100.
Katie
That's what you should do. It's the bird theory. You weigh oversell it over to it.
Jeff
Okay.
Katie
Why? I don't think we should see each other anymore on account of you being really fat and having bad hair. Oh, my God. What?
Melissa
Just kidding.
Katie
Yeah, just kidding. I just didn't think you and I connected.
Melissa
Hey, amber, you're on Q100.
Tammy
Well, ironically, I had a really similar situation happen to me, except it was a guy that wouldn't quit talking on the date. I was set up on a blind date, and I don't think the guy asked me three questions about myself, and it just was obnoxious. And I thought, you know, if this guy isn't genuinely interested in me, then I don't want a second date. And he called me. He's very persistent. IM me, text me. And I finally just stood up and returned his text. I was very respectful, and I said, look, I had a good time, but. And here's the line. I just got out of a serious relationship, and I'm not looking for anything right now. It was a little stretch of the truth, but it was. It was the truth.
Melissa
Okay, then as the one that. Then as the one that's out with you, I'm thinking, then why are we here in the first place?
Tammy
Well, it was a blind date. I was set up by a good friend, and I. I just wanted to go out and have a little fun. You never know who you're gonna meet. I mean, I feel like sometimes if a friend says, you should meet somebody, then you should always take the chance. But it just didn't work out.
Jeff
Well, girls have already used that line for a long time. I don't want to be in a serious relationship, but just get. We. We've used that. All women have lied about it. I think the thing going on, what Jeff is saying, it will never work because nobody will take the line. Like, if you say, I just don't think it's gonna work out. Why? Well, what I do. Well, what can I do better? Like, the other person? Like, it's never gonna be clean break, because no two people are ever on the same page about anything.
Katie
Maybe you just go completely nuts, though. You go, let me see your palm. And then you look at the lines and go, dear God, you and I are not. See how your stratus line crosses the omega line at the heart point. Look at mine. You see how that. That's clearly not. I don't even know how we survived this dinner.
Jeff
I think it should be the soap opera thing where you just walk out. You just say no goodbye. You just turn around and walk out.
Melissa
This is what John Mayer said about the breakup with Jennifer Aniston. And I wonder if there's any grain in here at all that you could use, but not to somebody's face on a first date, though.
Tammy
Jennifer Aniston is the smartest, most sophisticated person I think I've ever met. And people are different. People have different chemist. They have different lives. It's not about Years. It's about going out with somebody, being truthful on the way in, being truthful in the middle.
Katie
Imagine this first date.
Tammy
You're either a cheater or you break up. And I'm not the first.
Melissa
There's nothing really in there.
Katie
Imagine the end of a first date, and you say the person by name. You know what? Wendy Adams is the most serious and smartest person that I know. And sometimes there's chemistry, and sometimes. And Wendy's like, dude, we went to Starbucks.
Jeff
We just had coffee.
Katie
We had coffee and shared a piece of pound cake, you freak.
Melissa
Trey, you're on Q100.
Tammy
I. Yeah, yeah. I'm married now, and I've been married for a little over a year, but I went to the dating game for about two years with several different avenues and girls that just don't return your phone calls for no reason. And it just gets to the point where you want a reason. And I think I came up with it. You basically just have to say that, you know, look, we're both adults. We know that this really didn't go that well. I don't want to be mean to you. I don't want to lead you on. Let's just keep it at that and move on. And maybe you'll find somebody. Maybe I'll find somebody later on.
Melissa
I just rather not even have the
Jeff
courage to do that. I don't think anybody has the courage to do that. The courage to do that. And you say it didn't go well for the other person. It might. And I must say, I think it's hilarious that every caller or the majority of our callers, they're weighing in on this, want us to know that they're married. I don't know what the. I don't know what the purpose of letting us know they're married is, but I was in the dating. A lot of people have said that.
Melissa
I've told you before that I never became. I never had better perspective on dating than on the day that I got married. I figured dating out so well. I got all the answers now that I'm married.
Katie
What about.
Jeff
Maybe that's it. I just felt like they just wanted to let us know that I'm legitimate because, you know, now I've done something. I'm successful because I'm married, however. Right, Exactly.
Katie
What about if the way you do it is like you leave the date and let whatever happens happens, but then as soon as you get home, you call the person you're on a date with and say, let me ask you a Question about our dinner tonight. Did you poop your pants a little bit on the ride home and then when they go, no, of course not go. I did.
Melissa
Unless if the other person wants that, then they'll go, yeah, actually, I did. Hey, mark, you're on Q100. Hi.
Tammy
Hey. How's it going?
Melissa
What's up, man?
Tammy
Hey. For me, when I was dating, I just kept it simple, you know, hey. They were like, hey, I'd like to see you again. Yeah, you know, maybe I will. Maybe we will hang out again sometime. That would be nice. Then it kind of leaves it open to. If you're not pinned down. But it kind of leaves it open to, hey, well, we'll call or we'll hang out with a bunch of friends. But you kind of put in that friendly vibe.
Melissa
Why are we making this so complicated now? Dating now is set up to be so easy. You go on group dates, you're allowed to text each other and email as conversations. It's all so much easier now. So why are we complicating things with a. With a conversation to end it when it should just be a breastfeed? Just don't call.
Katie
You should send a three letter text code that doesn't make any sense and then never contact them again.
Melissa
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Jeff
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Melissa
All right, Wendy, who is Josie and why are we talking to her again this morning?
Tammy
Josie is married and decided to ask her husband to take over. The financials included some of the stocks that they had in the stock market. Well, Josie was supposed to go to a couple of classes about finance and learn about it and never checked up on the stocks.
Jeff
And her husband actually asked her to get out of the stock market before
Tammy
it crashed, and she didn't do that.
Melissa
She didn't do that. So she didn't go to the classes, didn't pull the money out. Been lying to him now for weeks. And last night was payday. She had to talk to her husband last night about everything that she's been doing and tell him that they've lost a ton of cash. Hi, Josie.
Tammy
Hi, guys. How are you?
Melissa
That feels like the verbal version of the dog with the tail between his legs right there.
Tammy
So I had the talk, and you guys were right. He had taken care of it without telling me.
Jeff
Knew it.
Tammy
He did. I can't believe you guys had more insight into my husband than I did.
Melissa
Melissa was right on top of that.
Jeff
Well, I just feel like I was thinking my own relationship and, like, you know, Katie and I know each other's weaknesses and our strengths, and I think that if there was something Katie didn't trust me with but asked me to do, she would check on her own, you know, behind my back, just to make sure it got done if it was something that important, like with money. So that's why I assumed your husband
Melissa
did the same thing even before you found out. I want to take this from, like, the prequel before you found out that he was taking care of things. I want to know what your day was like yesterday, how you approached him, how you approached him yesterday, where you sat him down. What were you feeling when you sat him down? And then I want to know exactly how he broke it to you that he'd taken care of things.
Tammy
Okay, well, yesterday was horrible, as you can imagine. I was, like, sick to my stomach all day long. And he got home last night around seven or so, and I couldn't do anything else except have the conversation. So I didn't beat around the bush. I said, there's something we have to talk about. Come sit in the living room. Sat him down. I was shaking. Like, literally my hands were shaking.
Melissa
He must have known at that point what was coming up. So when you said, we need to go sit down and talk, did he. Did his face say anything to you? Did he give away anything?
Tammy
Well, I was so nervous that I wasn't even really paying that much into him, but he didn't give anything away at that point. He seemed like, okay. And so I was like, Crying a little bit, shaking. And I was telling the story. And at first. First he. You know, he was like, trying. Trying to make this mad face, like, trying to keep it, you know, mad. And then he just kind of broke down into a smile and he's like, okay, you can relax a little bit. Stop crying. Stop crying. Just relax. You know, you're not off the hook. But I had a feeling, you know? So I checked into things. I sold some stocks in August. Yeah, at the end of August, he said. And then he said, you know what this means? And I said, what? That I'm not allowed anywhere near the money? And he said, exactly. No more handling the finances ever, ever, ever. I'm in charge of everything.
Jeff
And how do you feel about that? Do you feel relieved that he's taking it back, or do you feel like some kind of.
Tammy
To be honest, yeah.
Melissa
At that point, she lost all leverage in the negotiation at all. So I was probably relieved that she doesn't have to handle any of it.
Jeff
Right. But the thing is, now, like, your husband thinks you're completely irresponsible. You gotta do some things to earn his respect back again. Well, she is. No offense, Josie, but, I mean, the class. You went to class once and you didn't take it seriously. So with the finances, you were irresponsible.
Tammy
Yes. No, I was. I was irresponsible. There is no question. That's why I'm relieved to have him take over. Because clearly I'm. I'm no good in this arena.
Melissa
If the roles were reversed here, okay, and this was happening in my house first, Stacey would be crazy nuts that I didn't. I didn't do anything with the money. But the weeks of lying that led up to it, when I was leaving the house and she thought I was going to the finance classes, and I was lying to her face time and time again, I think she'd have a tougher time with that than anything else.
Tammy
Okay, well, to be fair. To be fair, I haven't spilled the beans yet about not going to the finals.
Katie
To be fair, who exactly are you being fair to right now?
Jeff
How's that fair?
Melissa
Oh, honey.
Jeff
So he still thinks he went.
Tammy
Barbara brought out the. Honey, I couldn't let it all out in one night.
Melissa
One night.
Tammy
One night. Rip it off.
Katie
It's a band aid.
Tammy
Just tear it off.
Melissa
You gotta do it. So you gotta go back and. You going to do the whole thing again?
Tammy
Well, I figured at this point, does it really matter?
Katie
But what if he comes to you someday and he's got like your little portfolio or whatever it's called. And he's like, let me ask you a question. That finance class, what did they say was safer? CDs or treasury bonds?
Melissa
Well, she could say, now, you know what? I messed this up so badly before. This is all you, hon.
Jeff
I do want to ask, who paid for that class?
Tammy
I mean, it came out of a household, but it was cheap. Yeah, I guess.
Jeff
And I'm just curious, how much does a class like that cost?
Tammy
I don't think very much. I think it was like $300 or something.
Jeff
300, okay, so he spent three. Or you two. I'm sorry, as a couple, you spent $300 on a class you never went to. So maybe the fair thing is, you know, if you're not going to tell him, then maybe, I don't know, somehow to reimburse him that $300.
Tammy
Oh, like, get him a. Like. Like book him a massage or something and then be like, right, bond in
Melissa
his name or something. What do you guys think? That she should come clean with them now? About the second part of this or. Now that the worst part is over, Just go ahead and keep it a secret.
Jeff
The fact that there's money attached, like, that's not cool.
Melissa
You got to sit him down again, Jeff. What do you think? Sit him down again or just let it go?
Katie
Let it go. Water under the bridge. Just talk and move. Don't say a word. And if it ever. If it comes up again, if he brings it up, the financial class go. Well, I've got another confession make. I didn't want to tell you this, blah, blah, blah, but I think it's probably six months from now he'll even forget you said you took it.
Melissa
So you're saying full disclosures and marriages is overrated?
Katie
No, because then you get the problem about lying to him. Where you were every single night you're supposed to be at the class. I don't know.
Jeff
And why your nails and toes look so good, Wendy.
Melissa
Does she go back and tell him that she lied about all the classes or just let it go?
Jeff
I wouldn't, really. The right thing is.
Tammy
Yeah, you should, but no, I wouldn't.
Jeff
That's funny. Just let it ride.
Tammy
Let it ride.
Jeff
Give him his money. I mean, the bighow give it, drama's over. If you're not gonna tell him, give him his money back somehow. At least make it right for yourself.
Katie
But you can pay back with a couple of.
Jeff
You know, she don't want to make it run. How much you charge for each one of those.
Katie
Jeff, I gotta see a picture of her.
Tammy
Oh, geez.
Jeff
Dante dollar.
Melissa
All right, Josie, let us know how you handle it, all right? If you have the talk with them again, call us back the next day and let us know.
Tammy
Okay?
Melissa
Are your instincts now saying just let it go or you are you thinking you're going to have the talk?
Jeff
My.
Tammy
My instinct instincts are saying let it go.
Jeff
She's not gonna tell him.
Melissa
She's not gonna say, damn, she's gonna get the money. Not a damn word. Whatever, tell him. See you later. Bye bye.
Tammy
Let it go.
Jeff
She is consistent responsibility. I was fishing for a combo somewhere around there.
Melissa
Wasn't there the third show. All right, I'm gonna tell you right now, brace yourself. This woman gets white hot mad. White hot mad. And I'm not sure where this happened, but it's a woman that obviously got in the way of either a police car or a fire truck on their way to an emergency. And they must have clipped her, okay? And she feels like the fire department or the police department should pay for that. And the police department says, look, did you hear the sirens? I mean, we're on our way to an emergency, so you should have known better. And she wants her money. She's demanding it. So she calls local 911 and she says, look, you guys need to pay because I'm not paying for this. You're the ones that run into me. Now, it starts off a little bit slow here, but it is gonna pick up steam and she is going to scare you. The first time I heard this, I jumped out of my seat. It scared me so much.
Jeff
She's not getting the response that she wants. So, like the anger boils and boils.
Melissa
You might say that.
Tammy
Okay, yeah, you can tell me your version of what happened, but based on what I have. Yeah, well, learned from. Well, now I don't care what you learn from. I'm going to tell you the truth. And then what the trooper said, too. He was charged with reckless driving, if that suits you. No, ma', am, he was not. Well, he had to be because I got these papers. Well, I've got a copy of the highway patrol. He was not charged. Oh, how could he keep them going? I was in the left hand, see, he could have made a right hand turn. He's behind me. They won. But one car in that right hand turn. And I wasn't making a left hand turn. The light was red. I stopped. Well, he took around me on the left hand side, then made a right hand turn and hooked into my car. This car is going into the shop. They're ordering their parts. They told me to call them on Monday. Well, you might want to turn it into your insurance company. Oh, no, I'll not turn it into my insurance. Bull. I will not. I'm putting my car in there and you're fixing it. And it's going to be fixed. It's almost $600 damage done to the front end of it where he hooked into it, pulled it off. Well, Ms. Ferguson. No, I will not turn it into my insurance. You'll pay or you'll see the whole sit into court 100%. Well, that's your. Just get ready. No, it's not my priorities, George. You're going to pay it. Well, listen, I'm not going to argue with you any further. No, you don't have to argue with me. I'll call the state trooper right now. Well, that. That's fine. You do whatever you need to do. Now you're going to pay this.
Jeff
Whoa. Wow. Wow.
Tammy
You think I'll give up? Hell no, I won't give up. I'm mad now. This car's going in the shop no later than they get to park and you will be bill for it. I will not give in. I'm not the giving up kind. I will not give in. Not one inch. Prepare yourself to pay it. I don't have anything else to say to you. I've told you we're not going to pay the claim. You do whatever you need to do. Pay it or either go to court. Pay it.
Jeff
I said pay it.
Melissa
They're laughing at her now.
Tammy
You think that I'm gonna give in. Not one inch am I gonna give in. I'll sue the damn fire department. Okay, well, I will sue the fire department. Bring a lawsuit in against them. Okay, well, that's fine. You. Wow.
Melissa
No. They think they hung up on her.
Tammy
You can't make her shut up.
Jeff
Oh, no.
Tammy
The car is going to be fixed. Then I'm suing a fire department. Borrow the money. Send a lawyer immediately.
Katie
She's so kind.
Tammy
Still saying you're not going to pay it.
Jeff
I guess that's it.
Melissa
She's not done.
Jeff
I take it she's not a timeout parent. Jeez, my wow wow.
Melissa
Literally scares me with the first time I heard it.
Jeff
She goes from so calm to crazy but numbing. Wow.
Tammy
Hell no.
Jeff
I'm writing a check now. I'll pay it.
Melissa
Damn.
Tammy
Think I'll give up? Hell no, I won't give up.
Melissa
Here's the one that scares you.
Jeff
Damn.
Melissa
She's calling 911. You know, they gotta be send a car over to that house immediately.
Katie
Well, they just stand by because it's eventually gonna happen. So they're just driving around the neighborhood.
Jeff
I think they should just cut her the check. Yeah. What year
Melissa
give her the money, the first show.
The Bert Show: Full Show PT 3 – Wednesday, March 4 [Vault]
Episode Date: March 4, 2026
This episode of The Bert Show dives into relatable, real-life scenarios with a comedic edge. The cast and callers debate the etiquette of ending first dates kindly (or not at all), unravel a listener’s financial faux pas and confessions, and close with a hilariously intense call from a woman demanding repayment after an emergency vehicle accident. True to form, the energy is high and the banter is authentic—The Bert Show offers laughs, insight, and plenty of awkward truths.
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Lighthearted and comedic, with undertones of authentic, no-holds-barred honesty. The hosts and callers blend relatable scenarios—dating, marriage, money, and anger—with self-deprecating humor and practical, sometimes unfiltered advice. The show is conversational, fun, and invites listeners to laugh at themselves and the world.
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