Caller/Listener (1:43)

And it also took snapshots of the screen. So if people had sent him pictures, I could see those, too.

Co-host or Producer (1:48)

Okay.

Host (possibly Burt or main host) (1:49)

I'm just curious if he. How are you? Why were you tipped off that he might be doing something like that on the Internet? Or was it just.

Caller/Listener (1:57)

It's often weird.

Host (possibly Burt or main host) (1:59)

Yeah.

Caller/Listener (1:59)

Just all of a sudden, he's got somewhere he's got to be. He's got a strange meeting, you know, not his normal pattern of work stuff. Oh, I've got to go to Macon today.

Caller/Listener (Phil) (2:11)

Why?

Caller/Listener (2:12)

You know, I couldn't get any straight answers, so I started to get suspicious. I know he spends a lot of time on the computer. So, you know, I thought that that would be the best place to start looking.

Co-host or Commentator (2:22)

Was there any sort of change in.

Co-host or Producer (2:25)

In the bedroom?

Co-host or Commentator (2:27)

No.

Caller/Listener (2:27)

And that was the thing that, you know, kind of made me think, okay, well, maybe you're just crazy. It's not anything. But, you know, then I just got suspicious.

Caller/Listener (Phil) (2:36)

Okay.

Host (possibly Burt or main host) (2:37)

The name of the software. Do you know it was Guardian. Guardian.

Co-host or Commentator (2:41)

Guardian.

Burt (2:42)

You can get that stuff on the Internet. Because I think what it's supposed to be used for is parents can put it on their computer to make sure their kids aren't, you know, doing nasty things or going to nasty sites. Because you can go back and you can pull up every domain name that your kids has gone to. And I know one parent who used it because they. You could type in, like, a screen name because it was a girl who was being like she was. Kept going back to this guy who was harassing her. Like, they were, like, in eighth grade, you know, and the dad said, look, you got to cut it off. And they put this on, and they put that guy's email on. So if she ever wrote him an email, it would actually send an email to. To the parents letting them know that that word had been typed into the computer. And then they went and pulled it up and confronted her.

Host (possibly Burt or main host) (3:25)

Cindy, you are on the voice disguiser. We are putting together the Idiot's guide to spying.

Caller/Listener (3:30)

Hi.

Host (possibly Burt or main host) (3:31)

Hi.

Caller/Listener (3:33)

My. The thing that I did, that worked for my ex. And yes, Bert, I do agree with you. It's over. When he would. He would check his voicemail from my home phone sometimes. So I would go behind him and do redial and look at the series of numbers on the display that were dialed. Some phones don't do it, but a lot of phones do. They'll show the whole series of numbers that you dial, including the pounds and stars and everything.

Co-host or Producer (4:01)

Okay.

Caller/Listener (4:02)

I just wrote them all down, and that's how I got his voicemail code. And I would just go and check his voicemail every day, and there would be. Baby, how are you? Hey, honey, it was good seeing you yesterday and stuff like that on there.

Co-host or Producer (4:14)

Okay, so you busted him on his voicemail?

Caller/Listener (4:17)

Yep.

Host (possibly Burt or main host) (4:18)

All right. Thank you.

Co-host or Commentator (4:18)

I like that way of getting the voicemail code.

Host (possibly Burt or main host) (4:21)

Why are you sitting there shocked?

Burt (4:22)

Jeff's like, you'll find out in 60 seconds or less. Okay, okay, maybe 30.

Host (possibly Burt or main host) (4:28)

Good morning, Monica. You are on the Burt show. All the hits, Q100. Don't need the voice disguiser.

Co-host or Commentator (4:34)

Hi.

Caller/Listener (4:35)

First thing the person must do is pull Up. Monica. Have to pull the Monica.

Co-host or Producer (4:40)

What do you mean?

Caller/Listener (4:41)

Monica? As in the song. So dawn, drive past his house in an unmarked car. Make sure you have your friend's car. I go with tourists. I rolled up to his house in a Corolla.

Caller/Listener (4:51)

Yeah, right.

Caller/Listener (4:51)

Okay, so make sure you change out car, because he knows what your car looks like, because he always sees your car. Make sure you're in another car.

Host (possibly Burt or main host) (4:58)

Okay, thank you very much.

Co-host or Producer (4:59)

Is that what Jeff thought she was talking about something else?

Host (possibly Burt or main host) (5:02)

I don't know.

Co-host or Commentator (5:04)

Something else.

Host (possibly Burt or main host) (5:04)

411005.

Co-host or Producer (5:06)

Oh, never mind.

Burt (5:07)

Oh, what's up, dude?

Host (possibly Burt or main host) (5:09)

Phil, you got a story to tell? Yeah, hold on just one second. Let me roll through a couple of these. Good morning. Is this Candy?

Caller/Listener (5:16)

Yep.

Host (possibly Burt or main host) (5:16)

All right. This is the idiot's guide to spying on your boyfriend, girlfriend, husband, wife.

Caller/Listener (5:24)

Yes. Check the text messages on his cell phone.

Co-host or Producer (5:28)

Check text messages on his cell phone.

Host (possibly Burt or main host) (5:30)

Check text messages on cell phone. All right.

Co-host or Producer (5:32)

Okay.

Host (possibly Burt or main host) (5:33)

Thank you very much. We will add that to the list. What do you got, Phil?

Caller/Listener (Phil) (5:37)

Not real sure how this adds into the idiots guy, but Jeff thinks it's a great story. So I'm. I'm not gonna mention any names, as if you can't figure out who it is, but let's just say I dated a girl for a while, and right when we started dating, I kept getting these very flirtatious emails from a fan. Hey, Phil, love the show. Love everything you do on the show, you know. You know, I'm sorry they, you know, put your whole life out on the radio. So tell me about your girlfriend. How are things going with that? I'd love to come see you on Saturday night up at Wild Bills. And I'd write back, hey, thanks for listening. I appreciate it. Things are going well.

Host (possibly Burt or main host) (6:13)

Yeah.

Caller/Listener (Phil) (6:13)

Come and see me sometime if you want to come out with your friends. I'll put you on the guest list. Then it would come back again. Well, maybe sometime we can, you know, meet up and get some coffee. Or maybe we can get a drink sometime. I'm just a huge fan. Don't think I'm a stalker. I'd write back and I'd be like.

Host (possibly Burt or main host) (6:26)

You know, I was like, well, if.

Caller/Listener (Phil) (6:27)

You come up to Wild Bills, you know, I'll be happy to buy you and all your friends a drink one night. Just let me know if you ever want to come up. I get another response. Don't think I'm a stalker. I just really like to meet you in person. I'd like to hang out with you. It was an old girlfriend who Created a fake email address as a fan, just to respond to me and email me to see my responses, to see how I interacted with fans, to see if I would come and see if I. If I. If I entertain the thought of wanting to meet up with this girl.

Host (possibly Burt or main host) (6:55)

So this was the current girl that you were going out, set up the account, and she was texting you as. Emailing you, rather as a listener, just to see how you'd respond.

Caller/Listener (Phil) (7:02)

Just to see how I would respond. Just to see if I would. If I would fall into the trap and say, oh, yeah, let's meet up secretly.

Host (possibly Burt or main host) (7:08)

That'd be a good way to spy, though. Yep. I mean, you could put it on the list.

Burt (7:11)

And obviously with Phil, it's easier because.

Co-host or Commentator (7:14)

He'S on, because random people email him.

Burt (7:17)

He's on the radio.

Co-host or Commentator (7:18)

But if you got an office job, why would anybody randomly email you?

Burt (7:20)

Because you could get an email. You could get. Like, what if you got an email from, like, a hotmail, and it just said, hey, I don't want to tell you, you know, who I am. I just want to, you know, let you know that I think you're very funny around the office. I think you're. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Don't shake your head, Jen. Guys are stupid.

Host (possibly Burt or main host) (7:35)

Good morning, Jennifer.

Caller/Listener (7:37)

Hey. I have some advice about what not to do.

Host (possibly Burt or main host) (7:40)

Okay?

Co-host or Commentator (7:40)

Okay.

Caller/Listener (7:41)

Don't ever get the other woman involved. If there is another woman and you know about her, don't try to gang up on the guy with her. It will never work out.

Host (possibly Burt or main host) (7:50)

All right? So don't use the current as an ally in your spying.

Caller/Listener (7:54)

Right.

Host (possibly Burt or main host) (7:54)

Okay. That sound good to y'? All?

Co-host or Producer (7:56)

Yeah. Don't use the mistress as an ally.

Burt (7:58)

Who has that story? Is it Crash who came home and found his current girlfriend and the girl that he was screwing around with both sitting on his couch?

Co-host or Producer (8:04)

Yeah, he saw that. And then we had a listener one time that we. We thought that they were getting together with the mistress and they were gonna bust him, and then the mistress took off with him.

Host (possibly Burt or main host) (8:12)

The intervention.

Co-host or Commentator (8:13)

That's right.

Host (possibly Burt or main host) (8:14)

Good morning, Doug. You're on the Burt Show. Hi.

Caller/Listener (Doug) (8:16)

This is. This is foolproof. It worked for me. And that is to use a voice activated recorder and tap your home phone.

Host (possibly Burt or main host) (8:23)

Tap your home phone by using a voice activated recorder so you don't have to be home.

Caller/Listener (Doug) (8:29)

You can be out on a business trip or whatever, but it will record both ends of the conversation of what's going on at home. It's legal because you're paying for your own home phone. I mean, it's your bill, it's your phone, but it worked for me.

Host (possibly Burt or main host) (8:42)

Where do you even go to get a device like that?

Caller/Listener (Doug) (8:45)

Radio Shack.

Host (possibly Burt or main host) (8:46)

Really?

Caller/Listener (Doug) (8:47)

It's very simple. It's not that expensive. And like I said, if. If you really think something's happening, you're gonna know based on a voice activated recorder and the conversations that go on.

Co-host or Commentator (8:57)

And what did you find out?

Caller/Listener (Doug) (8:58)

I found out that my wife was having an affair at her office and also with the next door neighbor.

Host (possibly Burt or main host) (9:04)

Oh, dude, are you kidding? The double whammy?

Caller/Listener (Doug) (9:08)

The double.

Burt (9:09)

Yeah. Wow.

Co-host or Producer (9:10)

Sorry.

Caller/Listener (Doug) (9:10)

But it's. It's. It's awfully hard for them to deny that something's going on if you've got their own voice, you know, talking about the rendezvous and so on.

Host (possibly Burt or main host) (9:19)

So I'm just curious how this whole thing played out. So did you ever go over to the next door neighbor and say, dude, I know what's going on?

Caller/Listener (Doug) (9:25)

You know what? I. A lot of people said I should have ratted him out. And I thought, you know, what? If he's gonna screw around and he's gonna ruin his marriage, he can do it on his own.

Host (possibly Burt or main host) (9:32)

So you never ran out?

Caller/Listener (Doug) (9:33)

Eventually.

Host (possibly Burt or main host) (9:34)

He's still married to her, actually.

Caller/Listener (Doug) (9:36)

I think they ended up getting divorced. Yeah, but I, you know, I didn't want to put my foot into it and caused the breakup. I knew, you know, if he's screwing around like that with. On his wife, that it would. He'd get caught or found out.

Host (possibly Burt or main host) (9:50)

So, I mean, it sure seems to me like. I mean, the reoccurring theme here is, yeah, you can do all this stuff, and this is what I did, but when I did it, I found out what I already knew. Like you said before, you know, like.

Co-host or Commentator (9:58)

You know, but sometimes you do need proof, because people that are the cheaters have gotten very good at manipulation. They've gotten very good at lying. And, yeah, they'll deny it right to your face.

Host (possibly Burt or main host) (10:10)

Morning, Burchell.

Caller/Listener (10:13)

Hello.

Co-host or Commentator (10:13)

Hello.

Caller/Listener (10:14)

Hey. You can always use your kids.

Caller/Listener (Phil) (10:17)

Whoa.

Co-host or Producer (10:18)

I don't know if I'm going to. I'm not going to put that on this list.

Host (possibly Burt or main host) (10:20)

Give us some examples.

Caller/Listener (10:21)

No, because, like, if they're legal, you know, they can drive. Because my mom would send me out at night to dig to my dad's car to find out if he was cheating on her or not. And while I was doing that, she would distract him.

Host (possibly Burt or main host) (10:33)

It's awful. Did you know what you were doing when you were in that car and what the mission was?

Caller/Listener (10:38)

I was just looking for any kind of Evidence of numbers or pictures. And I found tons of pictures of him. The other woman.

Host (possibly Burt or main host) (10:45)

That's still awful. It's awful to bring a child into this whole thing.

Co-host or Producer (10:50)

I'm not gonna put that on the list because I don't think that's fair.

Host (possibly Burt or main host) (10:52)

That's an awful thing to do. You're not bothered by that? Your mom put you in that position?

Caller/Listener (10:57)

Oh, I was actually on her side. You know, we want to find out what the truth is, and so I was willing to go to that extent.

Host (possibly Burt or main host) (11:04)

Wow.

Co-host or Commentator (11:04)

That's still your father.

Host (possibly Burt or main host) (11:05)

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Co-host or Producer (11:08)

I'm not gonna put that on the list, but it does remind me of an adult child of a father who was screwing around on the mom. And I was actually here, I mean, just a few years ago, was a part of a drive by with a friend on her own father, which is bizarre. I totally forgot about that. But, yeah, we drove by hotel and caught him with this other woman.

Host (possibly Burt or main host) (11:24)

This is the idiot's guide to spying on your significant other. Hey, Susan.

Caller/Listener (11:29)

Yes. I just suggest that they buy a GPS tracking device.

Burt (11:34)

Oh, my God.

Host (possibly Burt or main host) (11:35)

GPS tracking device in the car, right?

Caller/Listener (11:38)

Yes. It saves money on PI.

Host (possibly Burt or main host) (11:40)

Let me ask you about these tracking device deals. Do they. Is there some kind of like, almost like TiVo type thing to it where you can actually go back and track where the car has been all day long, or do you have to be watching it in real time?

Caller/Listener (11:54)

No, you just go into the Internet, you put in a password, and you have tracking logs.

Co-host or Producer (11:59)

So every move they've.

Burt (12:01)

Now, you can do that with my. With the navigation on my pathfinder setting. You can set. And it's. The purpose for it is so if you drive somewhere, you can find your way home.

Co-host or Producer (12:11)

Right.

Burt (12:11)

You know, because it labels the map, but you can do that setting and then you can hide the route until you need it. So if you were cunning enough, you could set that and like, like I said, Jessica's using my car today. I could have set that and then looked back on and see exactly where she went.

Host (possibly Burt or main host) (12:25)

Hey, Susan, do you know the name of the device that you were using?

Caller/Listener (12:31)

No. It's been. It's been probably five years ago since I did it. But they're very. They're very advanced.

Co-host or Producer (12:38)

Now what I'm curious of the result of what you did do.

Caller/Listener (12:43)

What?

Co-host or Producer (12:43)

I'm curious of what happened. What'd you find out?

Caller/Listener (12:46)

Well, I did it. I didn't do it. I did it because I was going through a divorce and I.

Co-host or Producer (12:52)

Okay.

Caller/Listener (12:53)

And I did it for religious reasons. I had to know what was going on.

Host (possibly Burt or main host) (12:56)

All right, but it wasn't. You were already divorced at the time where you tried spying on him.

Caller/Listener (13:03)

I had to know for religious reasons.

Host (possibly Burt or main host) (13:05)

What was going on for religious reasons.

Caller/Listener (13:07)

For scriptural reasons.

Host (possibly Burt or main host) (13:09)

What does that mean?

Caller/Listener (13:10)

To get a divorce. To get a divorce.

Host (possibly Burt or main host) (13:12)

Okay, okay, I'm not following.

Co-host or Commentator (13:14)

If he really was cheating on her, then she felt that she could divorce him.

Host (possibly Burt or main host) (13:20)

I got you. Because she believes so.

Co-host or Commentator (13:21)

Because she believed so strongly in her marriage vows, she had to make sure he broke those vows in order to get a divorce.

Burt (13:27)

Tracy got a phone call one time. She just sent me this instant message. She got a phone call one time from a guy who was. Who had heard a topic that we had talked about on the Burt show and needed to know exactly what day and time we talked about that because he had heard it on the recording that he had from the recorder that he'd hidden in his wife's car.

Co-host or Commentator (13:48)

Oh. And he.

Co-host or Producer (13:50)

And he could time it based on what he's saying.

Burt (13:51)

And he could time it based on. So, like, he would call up and go. Yes. When Burton, Melissa were arguing about spying on your man. And this is blah, blah, blah. And Jeff was shooting his gun. And I don't know if she gave him the information or not, but he knew bits and pieces of it and wanted to know the exact day and time.

Host (possibly Burt or main host) (14:06)

Tracy says she went online. Not our Tracy. This is a listener. Tracy went online under his name, and the other woman started talking to him. Oh.

Co-host or Commentator (14:14)

So sign on this. I am.

Host (possibly Burt or main host) (14:16)

Yep. Sign on using his account. All right, so what do we have for our list here? Complete Idiot's guide to Spying. What do we have?

Co-host or Producer (14:22)

All right, the first thing that we got was the keystroke recorder on the laptop to see, like, emails and stuff you do online. And Guardian is the name of the software. Number two was redial on your phone to show previous numbers dialed, which also can include the pounds and the codes to get voicemail codes in case they were checking their voicemail at home. And then go in and check their voicemail messages. Be sure if you do a drive by. Drive by in a different car than the one that they're used to seeing you in. You can also check text messages on cell phones, create anonymous email account and email as someone else to see how they respond to you knowing that you're somebody different. The don't. Don't use the mistress as an ally in the plot. If you know for sure they're cheating on you. Tap your home phone with a voice activated recorder. Get a GPS tracking device and you can do it that way, or you can sign on to his IM and see who talks to them.

Burt (15:11)

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