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Mrs. Claus's Sister
Okay, only 10 more presents to wrap. You're almost at the finish line. But first.
There, the last one.
Enjoy a Coca Cola for a pause that refreshes.
Guys, thanks for helping me carry my Christmas tree.
Drew Ski
Zoe, this thing weighs a ton.
Kevin
Drewski, lift with your legs, man.
Mrs. Claus's Sister
Santa.
Host 1
Santa, did you get my letter?
Drew Ski
He's talking to you britches.
Kevin
I'm not.
Mrs. Claus's Sister
Of course he did.
Drew Ski
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Host 1
All right, this is the last time we'll set up the whole little black book thing because this has gone on for a week. And Jen got a great email from a listener yesterday.
Host 2
Yeah, the email I got said you guys are really talented. I think was the topic of it or something. And it said you guys took America's most boring couple and turned it into a week long succession of bits. They said, congratulations, you guys are really talented. And thank God for Psycho Stacy.
Host 1
It's a real gift, I tell you. Jessica called us up and she said she wanted to get to know her current boyfriend Kevin a little bit better by talking to a different one of his ex girlfriends every single day. The first day we had this girl Stacy on who ended up like this reoccurring theme with her. She called back every single day even though she wasn't invited.
Drew Ski
She was nuts.
Host 2
Yeah, Psycho Stacy had dated Kevin like three years ago, only for six months. But we learned a week ago that she was still doing drive bys, still checking up on him, still you know, contacting his family. And so she was obviously still all about him. So we realized that as the week went on, she just kind of weaseled her way back into the fold, trying to always give her opinion on what was going on, trying to give Jessica advice on how to be a better girlfriend for Kevin. And, yeah, we talked to her every day.
Host 1
And this was all coming to a conclusion yesterday. We're going to have Kevin on. We're gonna have Jessica on, find out if she got what she wanted out of the whole week, and then we would send them on their way and never hear from them again. But of course, Stacy Stalker could have none of that. And she breaks in about halfway through.
Hey, Jessica.
Jessica
Hey.
Host 1
How are you today?
Jessica
I'm pretty good. How are you guys doing?
Host 1
Okay. Now, this is gonna be the last day we talk to you. I'm sure, I am positive that you and Kevin talked over the weekend about he and Stacy talking on the phone again. How did that go?
Drew Ski
I'd get right to the point.
Jessica
Yeah, we talked about it, and it turned out it was really. I should have known she was exaggerating how long they talked. And it was a quick conversation where he was trying to be polite, from what he told me, so it didn't. It's not something I'm too worried about.
Drew Ski
So she said it was over 45 minutes. How long did he say it was for?
Jessica
He said it was. He just said it was like nothing. It was like a few, you know, hey, how's it going? He was basically just trying to politely get off the phone with her.
Host 1
All right, let's get Kevin on. Hey, Kevin.
Kevin
Hey. How's it going?
Host 1
Good. How are you today?
Kevin
Not too bad.
Host 1
Now, I'm just curious. Have you listened to this whole thing go down all week?
Kevin
No, not really. I mean, off and on, but I kind of. I don't know. It's kind of weird. I, like, listened to the first day and then I was kinda like, ew, it's kind of creepy. So. But I listen in and she's been talking to me about it.
Mrs. Claus's Sister
It.
Kevin
So, yeah.
Host 1
Yeah.
Kevin
I'm guessing they're much up to date on it.
Host 1
I'm guessing there was a call right after. Every time she talked to a different ex girlfriend.
Kevin
Yeah.
Host 1
And told you everything that happened. What were some of those conversations like?
Kevin
They were nothing dramatic. Not like, you know, never anything of a big fight nature or anything. Just kind of. That was a little weird, wasn't it? Yeah. Yeah. You know, and nothing exciting came out of the conversations, but we did you know it opened up some dialogue about my family about different things like that?
Host 2
Did you find it surprising, any of the things that the ex girlfriend said about you or said about your breakups or said about your relationships?
Kevin
No. You know what? The only one I think wasn't fair was the one about my mom. Like that. Annie said that my mom didn't like her, and I don't think that was the case at all. I think that was, you know, they had different personality types, but my mother just like her. And that wasn't the reason we broke up or anything. I just thought that was kind of lame to bring that in. But everything else was cool. Nothing was too embarrassing or anything like that. So I guess I got off pretty easy.
Host 2
Well, Kevin, I mean, we talked to you a week ago, and you seemed pretty confident about how things were gonna be fine, and then now you just. I don't know, you used the word creepy the first day you heard it, and then now you. I don't know, it just. You seem a little more closed than you did a week ago. Did things affect you differently than you thought they would?
Kevin
No. No, I don't think so. I'm just, you know, I'm just more of a private person than my girlfriend. So, you know.
It was just weird for me to hear my own, you know, personal life just on the radio. But it didn't really bother me. It was just kind of like. I don't know, kind of like twilight zoning or something for me, so. But I'm confident. And I was confident when we went into it because I knew that there was nothing. There was nothing very incendiary that would come up with any of these girls. Like, none of them were a really huge breakup that was bitter. You know, call the cops, fighting and stuff like that. So.
Host 2
Have there been any of those? Because I can't imagine you having to call the cops fighting over anything.
Kevin
No, there haven't. That's why, you know, that's why I was confident that nothing, Nothing would come out here, that I would be ashamed to show my face in public after everybody's heard about it.
Drew Ski
So what was it? Because Jessica kind of touched on this. When you and Jessica talked about talking with Stacy.
Host 1
Yeah.
Drew Ski
When she called you on Thursday.
Kevin
Yeah, that was. That was.
It would have been strange. Obviously, just a call out of the blue from her. Because I haven't. I haven't talked to her since we split up, and.
Drew Ski
But, you know, she stays in touch with your mom. Did you know that?
Kevin
Well, that's part of creepy yeah, no, I didn't know that. And that. That. That's one of the things that. That did give me the kind of weird feeling. It's like I didn't. I didn't realize that any of my ex girlfriends kept in contact with my mom. And that's a little, you know, just a little odd that she would never say or. I mean, not that I care, but.
Drew Ski
Did you guys actually talk for. When you talked on Thursday?
Kevin
Just. It wasn't very long at all. Probably five, 10 minutes. It was really. I was. Wasn't really interested in the phone call. Kind of caught me off guard, so I. I was, you know, I was just distracted and I. I talked to her for, you know, as quickly as I could get her off the phone without blatantly hanging up on her. But it was just a quick. Yeah, hi, how are you doing? It's good to hear from you. And.
Host 1
Hey, Kevin. One of the things that kind of came up this week, I'm just gonna sound. Hard to believe that Jessica was saying that she doesn't feel like there's a lot of excitement to the relationship.
And you guys address that at all?
Kevin
No, not really. I mean, that's kind of. I think that's kind of a common concern. I don't think something you can switch up in a week. You know, things get. Sometimes get stagnant in relationships, but it can always be fixed, you know?
Host 2
Jessica, do you have any ideas about that?
Jessica
Well, Kevin, I didn't see that. It's not that. It's not. I don't know.
I'm not sure what the idea. I mean, it's not that it's boring. I don't mean to say that it's boring. I just meant that it's boring.
I just meant that it just, you know, sometimes. I don't know. Now I feel like. I didn't mean for it to come off across like we're boring. I just wanted it to be a little more passionate. Sometimes the only thing about. I was thinking about, and I don't know if it has anything to do with it, but I was thinking about, like, all the porn and everything since it came up. And, like, I wonder if.
You know, like, just looking at a picture of a girl and then. I don't know, maybe that. Maybe that's sort of like practicing your golf swing the wrong way or something. You know what I mean?
Host 1
It's like learning how to play golf by reading Golf Digest.
Jessica
It's hard to talk about, especially on the phone, but I don't know. I Guess that's kind of. I was sort of thinking about that.
Host 1
Kevin, is that uncomfortable at all that that came up?
Kevin
Yeah, just a touch, so to speak.
Host 1
What's. I never understood the whole Playboy collection thing. What's that all about? Just.
Kevin
I don't know. I got some Playboys. I didn't know that that bothered women so much. Doesn't seem to buy Jessica.
Host 1
Okay, well, once things start to get a little boring, you can always count on Stacy to give us a.
Stacey's back and would like to talk to both of you guys. Good morning, Stacy.
Stacy
Hi, you guys.
Host 1
Hi. Welcome back.
Mrs. Claus's Sister
Thanks.
Stacy
Listen, I just wanted Jessica to know it was not a 10 minute conversation on Thursday. It was a 30 minute conversation. I don't know why Kevin's saying it was only 10, and I just think she should know that I. Kevin, why are you lying?
Kevin
Okay. Hey, are we still on the air live?
Host 1
Are we still What?
Kevin
We're on the air live?
Host 1
Yes, we're on the radio right now.
Kevin
All right, I'll hold my tongue. Listen, Stacy, I, you know, catch a point here, but I'm not interested in you, all right? So.
Stacy
Well, that's fine.
Kevin
I didn't talk to you for 45 minutes. I don't know what you're trying to get me to with fight with my girlfriend is about, but it's not gonna break us up. And I don't really care about you. There's a reason I didn't talk to you for three years. So.
Stacy
Listen, I'm trying to be helpful to Jessica and I just wanted her to know that it was 30 minutes, it was not 10 minutes. And we had a connection and we talked about our past relationship, and you're trying to minimize it, and she needs to know, that's all.
Host 2
You said 45 on Friday.
Stacy
Well, I may have exaggerated a little bit. I did. It was at least 30 minutes.
Host 2
But. Well, let's go back about talking about the past relationship. I mean, what'd you talk about? That. I mean.
Host 1
Or the connection?
Host 2
Because Jessica was talking about how Kevin had told her that it was just, you know, he was trying to politely get you off the phone, you know?
Stacy
Well, she was. He was a lot more than polite, and it took a long time to get me off the phone. Look, look, he's not being polite now. He could have just said that. He didn't do that. He was a lot nicer. We talked about good times that we'd had and stuff that we'd shared and.
Jessica
Well, it seems like you're pushing him to the point where he has to say something so bluntly like that to you if you keep calling.
Stacy
Jessica, I've been trying to be helpful to you and open, and I'm not trying to push him to do anything or you. I'm just trying to be honest. I don't know why you guys are being so.
Jessica
I don't know if maybe you think you're being honest, but maybe you're not being so honest with yourself because you said from the beginning that you still had feelings for him. And then, you know, if that's the case, like I said long time ago to you, seem like you should back off.
Stacy
You can't stop somebody from caring about somebody. I have not approached him for those three years. I still care about him. But there is one thing I need to say. Kevin, if the conversation didn't mean that much to you, why didn't you mention the conversation that we had on Saturday?
Kevin
Meaning the conversation where I pretty much just told you what I just said now, which was you gotta not call me every other day because I don't care to hear from you.
Host 1
Now, hold on a sec. There was another call on Saturday?
Stacy
Yeah.
Host 1
Kevin, did you tell Jessica about the call on Saturday?
Kevin
No. No, because it was a nuisance call. I got rid of that one as fast as I could get rid of a telemarketer.
Drew Ski
How long did you guys talk for on Saturday? In your best estimate, Stacy, it was like 15 minutes.
Stacy
And it wasn't like a telemarketer either.
Kevin
Yeah, it was about 60 seconds, tops.
Stacy
I don't know. I don't know why he's lying, Kevin.
Kevin
Hey, Stacy, you got in your little bit of radio fame here. Why don't you hang up and go on your daily life.
Stacy
You think that's what this is about? Like being on the radio?
Kevin
It's about you being some sort of a weird psycho girl who, at 19, I don't know, was frigged up in the head and I made a big mistake and shouldn't have been with at all. You got some emotional problems and you keep in touch with my mom and you're just.
Stacy
Okay, you can, whatever. You can be as insulting as you want, but you guys started this. Why did you even allow this? What did you think that was? What did you think was gonna happen?
Kevin
I don't know. I thought I would have an adult relationship with somebody, break up and go on with my life and not have to. Have to talk to them again, you know, Three years.
Stacy
Okay, so then you allow your current girlfriend to call all your talk to Your ex girlfriends. That doesn't sound like what you're saying at all.
Kevin
I don't care about that. But I. But what I do care about is when I find out that psycho ex girlfriends are still talking to my mom and then won't catch the point and get off the damn line and are being helpful.
Stacy
Okay, Just because you break up with someone doesn't. Just because you break up with someone doesn't mean you break up with their family. Okay?
Kevin
Okay.
Stacy
I have a right to talk to who I want. And I haven't bothered you for three years, and then all of a sudden, like I'm a pariah.
Jessica
You're just gonna keep going on and on, no matter what anyone says to you.
Kevin
You're psycho. You're a psychopath. Good.
Stacy
I am not a psycho.
Jessica
I think this I'm gonna be. That's it from you. But thanks, guys, for the experiment.
Host 1
So, Jessica, you're gonna back out now?
Jessica
Yeah, I'm just tired of.
Stacy
Well, then why have you been complaining so much? That's what I wonder. But, yeah, go ahead and hang up. That's fine. I'll leave you alone. I was just trying to be helpful and open. You asked me questions and I tried to offer answers.
Jessica
I'm not trying to be mean to you, Stacey. I just. This. I'm saying. Fine. If you want to say, I open the can of worms and I say I'm closing it. Okay, Bye. Bye. I'll talk to you later, Kevin.
Kevin
See you, Swee.
Drew Ski
Just for the record, we're all still here. We're just listening like everybody else. Yeah, the bird shows.
Host 1
All right. There goes Jessica. Kevin, is there anything last you want to say to Stacy?
Kevin
Not really. I mean, I never really had anything to say to her in the beginning.
Host 1
Hey, Stacy.
Kevin
Yes.
Host 1
Yeah, we're gonna let you go. At this point, I think you kind of. You kind of know how they feel about you being in their relationship though, right?
Stacy
Yes, I do. But it's very unfair and very mean, and there's nothing wrong with being dedicated and devoted. But whatever. I'll hang up.
Host 1
What do you mean, dedicated and devoted?
Drew Ski
Stacy.
Host 1
Stacy.
Stacy
Yeah.
Host 1
What do you mean, dedicated and devoted? You guys broke up three years ago.
Stacy
I mean to a process. To trying to help someone, to try. Listen, I was trying to close something that they opened, okay? They opened something that I've been trying really hard to close. And then all of a sudden, they're, like, telling me I can no longer talk to Kevin. Or. I mean, I did fine for three years where I just didn't bother him. Okay. And I would hear about what was going on with him from his mom. And you're about to cry.
Drew Ski
What are you crying?
Stacy
I'm not going to cry on the radio. Okay, I'm just going to go. But I just. I think it's really unfair, and I think that they've been very mean, and they should. If they didn't want the truth about what was going on, they never should have done this on the air.
Drew Ski
Wow.
Host 1
Okay, Stacy, we'll let you go. We don't want this get all emotional.
Stacy
Yeah. All right.
Kevin
Bye.
Host 1
In that way. All right.
Drew Ski
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Mrs. Claus's Sister
Guys, thanks for helping me carry my Christmas tree, Zoe.
Drew Ski
This thing weighs a ton.
Kevin
Drew Ski, lift with your legs, man.
Mrs. Claus's Sister
Santa.
Host 1
Santa, did you get my letter?
Drew Ski
He's talking to you britches.
Kevin
I'm not.
Mrs. Claus's Sister
Of course he did.
Drew Ski
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Mrs. Claus's Sister
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Mrs. Claus's Sister
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Date: December 5, 2025
Cast: Bert Show hosts and team (Bert, Kristin, Abby, Cassie, Tommy & more), plus guests Kevin, Jessica, and Stacy
This episode revisits the “Little Black Book” week-long segment where a listener, Jessica, connects with each of her boyfriend Kevin’s ex-girlfriends to learn more about him. The focus is on the experiment’s dramatic fallout, specifically with "Psycho Stacy," Kevin’s most infamous ex, who continues to call in and escalate the situation. The episode serves as a raw, real-time conclusion to a saga blending humor, awkwardness, and relationship tension.
"You guys took America's most boring couple and turned it into a week long succession of bits. Congratulations, you guys are really talented. And thank God for Psycho Stacy." (Host 2, 01:43)
Jessica reassures the hosts that Kevin and Stacy's phone conversation was short and not as dramatic as Stacy claimed:
Kevin admits the experience was uncomfortable:
Stacy’s Unfiltered Honesty:
Kevin’s Deadpan Discomfort:
Group Realization:
The “Golf Swing” Metaphor for Relationship Boredom:
Stacy’s Final Plea:
The “Little Black Book Recap” offers a reality-radio masterclass: a simple premise spun into an unpredictable theater of awkwardness, catharsis, and crowd-pleasing spectacle, fueled largely by one unforgettable ex. The segment closes not so much with neat resolution as with an exhausted, collective “enough”—though the Bert Show cast’s chemistry and authenticity keep the mood lively, relatable, and entertaining to the last note.