Vault: Mom's Battle with Birth Control

Summary

The Bert Show – “Vault: Mom’s Battle with Birth Control”

Date: November 3, 2025
Hosts: Bert (Birch), Jen, Male Co-host, plus callers
Main Theme:
A mother (“Sue”) seeks advice about putting her teenage daughter on birth control against her husband’s strong objections, sparking a debate among hosts and listeners about parental roles, teen sexuality, honesty, and decision-making in families.

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Episode Overview

This episode focuses on a real and emotional dilemma faced by “Sue,” a mother worried about her 15-year-old daughter’s relationship and the possibility of pregnancy. Sue’s husband is staunchly against putting their daughter on birth control, believing in “consequences” over prevention, while Sue feels responsible for protecting her daughter's future. The Bert Show team and listeners discuss the parental dynamics, communication with teens, gender perspectives on teen sexuality, and whether it’s ever justifiable for one parent to take action against the other’s wishes.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Sue’s Dilemma and Background

• [01:33–04:29]
  • Sue, using a voice disguiser, explains her predicament: her nearly 16-year-old daughter is in 11th grade and has had a boyfriend for a year.
  • Sue had a vague “talk” with her daughter (“big eyes, shoulders up”) but isn’t sure about her sexual activity; she suspects her daughter is sexually active and wants to put her on birth control for safety and her future.
  • Sue’s husband is adamantly opposed, saying their daughter must learn consequences for her actions and refuses to discuss it further, leading to a standoff between the parents.
  • Sue made a gynecologist appointment regardless, debating whether to go behind her husband’s back.

Moral vs. Practical Parenting

• [04:48–07:15]
  • The hosts get into the two levels of this issue:
    1. Is it the right call, as a mother, to put a teenage daughter on birth control?
    2. Is it okay to make such a big decision without – or against – the father's input?
  • Bert draws parallels to other shared parenting decisions, highlighting the uniqueness and seriousness of the issue.
  • Jen comments:
    • “I just don't think that daddies can look at their daughters very objectively or realistically…” ([06:12])
    • “A daughter at that stage in her life is making adult decisions and needs some adult guidance and help with that…getting to a doctor, it's gonna be the healthiest thing for that teenager.” ([07:51])

Arguments for Birth Control and Honesty

• [07:43–09:12]
  • Jen asserts she’d openly defy her husband if she knew her daughter was sexually active:
    • “If I had a teenage daughter that I knew was sexually active and he was refusing to allow her to go on the pill, I would openly defy him.” ([08:54])
  • The male co-host disagrees about secrecy, arguing the issue isn’t just between mother and daughter because of the shared parental responsibility.

Professional & Listener Perspectives

• [09:26–10:27]
  • Taylor/Brittany (Caller): Works at a health department; suggests Sue bring her husband to a clinic to witness firsthand how many teens are pregnant:
    • “Walk in the doors of any health department and you will see children with babies.” ([10:18])
  • Bert and Jen agree this could provide a reality check for Sue’s husband.

Balancing Prevention with Values

• [10:50–11:49]
  • Joy (Caller): Supports Sue and stresses prevention, not endorsement, of teen sex.
    • “You're protecting your child. And that's the number one job that a parent has. And sometimes it's not going to make everybody happy.” ([11:23])
    • Emphasizes conversations about STDs as well as pregnancy (“unwanted critters” – [11:43]).

Dads' Perspectives and Parental Dynamics

• [12:10–12:52]
  • Male co-host sees the mother’s role as ultimately convincing the father, not going behind his back.
  • Jen points out that fathers see their daughters as “the little girl they were raising in the little patent shoes” and struggle to view them as mature.

Critique of ‘Green Light’ Messaging

• [12:52–14:38]
  • Brittany (Caller):
    • 19 years old, says if her parents had forced birth control without knowing for sure she was sexual active, it might feel like a “green light” to have sex.
    • Advocates for honest communication and cautions against making assumptions or unintentional permission-giving.

How Teens Respond to “The Talk”

• [14:38–15:14]
  • Jen and the male co-host argue that a teen’s evasiveness (“big eyes and homework excuses”) often signals they are, in fact, sexually active.

Consensus on the Best Approach

• [15:14–16:39]
  • The suggestion from the health department worker resonates: try to “shock” dad into understanding with a visit to a public clinic.
  • Jen advises not telling the husband where they are going, to avoid defensiveness.
    • “I would not even tell him where you're going. I would just say, we gotta go somewhere. I need you to come with me. And don't bring your daughter. Just the two of you. Go and sit in the waiting room...” ([15:44])
  • Sue recognizes she can't do it behind his back and will have to confront him openly, even if it makes him angry.

Gendered Persistence in Decision-Making

• [16:18–17:24]
  • Male co-host jokes about how wives can chip away at a husband's resistance (“just start talking about it nonstop, day in, day out”), likening it to debates over décor ("animal print everything") – humor lightening the conversation:
    • “You will beat us down. You will chip away and chip away and chip away at that.” ([16:39])
  • Bert comically reflects that in marriage, resistance eventually gives way:
    • “If I say no, in another two months, it's gonna happen anyway. So thank you for respectfully manipulating me.” ([17:05])

Final Takeaway

• Sue thanks the hosts and listeners for the support, echoing the advice that this discussion must be faced openly, prioritizing her daughter’s health and future.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Sue: “I want her to have a good life. I want her to go to college. And you know, there's no room for a baby right now. This just isn't going to happen.” ([02:27])
• Jen: “Him just saying, no, absolutely not, you can't have sex is not going to keep her from having sex. So he could have a pregnant teenage daughter on his hands within the next year or two, and then what is ruling with an iron fist done?” ([08:18])
• Joy (Caller): “Sometimes dads don't have that objective opinion about their daughters. …It's easier to prevent it than it is to raise a child for 18 years.” ([11:52])
• Taylor/Brittany (Caller): “Walk in the doors of any health department and you will see children with babies.” ([10:18])
• Brittany (Caller): “If my parents had actually decided to put me on birth control because they thought I was doing something I wasn't…that would have been a very bad idea…because that's almost you giving into your daughter and saying, listen, it's okay, just do what you want, just be careful.” ([13:09])
• Jen (on dads’ perspective): “They see them as the little girl they were raising in the little patent shoes.” ([11:49])
• Bert: “Parenting, obviously, and so is marriage. It’s teamwork… I don't think it's right that you make this decision by yourself.” ([06:56])
• Sue: “I know that I can't do this behind his back. I think I always knew that in my heart. But, you know, I might have to do it, you know, in front of him and have him be mad at me.” ([16:02])

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• [01:33] – Sue calls in with her dilemma
• [03:48] – She considers making the appointment behind her husband’s back
• [04:48] – Discussion of parental collaboration and conflict
• [07:43] – Jen and hosts weigh in on boundaries and parental authority
• [09:26] – Taylor/Brittany’s health department perspective
• [10:50] – Joy’s perspective on protection and prevention
• [12:52] – Brittany’s caution against giving a “green light”
• [15:14] – Health department “shock tactic” is consensus advice
• [16:18] – Persistence and humor on marital disagreements
• [17:24] – Episode wrap-up; Sue expresses gratitude

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Summary & Takeaways

The episode provides a nuanced and relatable look at the intersections of parenting, adolescence, communication, and gender dynamics when it comes to a sensitive issue: teenage birth control. While the hosts and callers largely agree on the need for prevention and open conversation, they debate whether unilateral action is justified in a marriage and how best to approach both teens and co-parents honestly and effectively. The emotional resonance, humor, and practical advice combine to make this episode both engaging and valuable for parents facing similar concerns.

Transcript

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[Host (Birch)]

This is the Birch show. Good morning. We are gonna call this virtual listener Sue. She is on the voice disguiser. Hey, Sue.

[Sue (Caller)]

Hey, how you doing?

[Host (Birch)]

All right. How are you today?

[Sue (Caller)]

Well, I got a really big problem and I'm hoping you guys can help me.

[Host (Birch)]

All right? Now normally we keep this kind of conversation till after 8:30, but I think this is appropriate.

[Sue (Caller)]

This is really important. Okay?

[Host (Birch)]

All right.

[Sue (Caller)]

My oldest daughter, she's 15, she'll be 16 soon, she's in 11th grade and she's had a steady, you know, very steady boyfriend for almost a year now. And you know, I had the sort of talk with her and she gave me the big eyes. You know how teenagers do big eyes? I don't know what you're talking about or blah blah blah, you know, and, you know, quite frankly, you know, it's been a year with the same boy.

[Joy (Caller)]

And.

[Sue (Caller)]

I want to put her on birth control, okay? I really do. I really think she should be taking birth control pills. I know how kids are. She's in 11th grade, steady boyfriend. And, you know, I don't want anything to happen to her. I mean, I have four kids of my own. I want her to have a good life. I want her to go to college. And, you know, there's no room for a baby right now. This just isn't going to happen. Now, the problem is, the problem isn't me, you know, the problem is my husband. And he says, you know, absolutely, unequivocally, no, she is not going on birth control. You know, and, you know, the whole spiel, like, you know, teenagers have to realize there's a consequence for their actions and all this. You know, I have the most respect for him. I really do. But in this particular instance, I just, you know, I'm beside myself. I think he's wrong. I think he's a guy and he doesn't understand. And he doesn't understand how teenagers are. And, you know, I mean, he says, you know, just say no, that kind of thing. Like, you know, did you just fall off the tomato truck or something?

[Jen]

And.

[Sue (Caller)]

I'm, like, really freaking out here. And, you know, I made. I made a gynecologist appointment for my daughter and it's tomorrow at 3. And, you know, in my mind, I'm doing this regardless. But then I just started thinking about it. And I know you guys kind of talk about this. You know, you talk about heavy problems sometimes. And I thought maybe, I don't know, some other mothers could give me some advice. I don't know. I'm just so flipped out about this.

[Host (Birch)]

Sure.

[Sue (Caller)]

I feel very strongly, and he feels very strongly his way. And if I do this, I'm gonna have to do this behind his back and tell my daughter not to tell him.

[Host (Birch)]

All right? Now, I think we got a couple of different levels to attack this thing at. First of all, let me just gather some information and give the phone number out. 404-741-1005. Just so we have all the facts before we take the calls.

[Sue (Caller)]

Okay.

[Host (Birch)]

You said she's 15 years old. She's been dating this dude for a year. Is that what you said?

[Sue (Caller)]

Right. Well, she's almost 16. She's in 11th grade.

[Host (Birch)]

Okay, almost 16.

[Sue (Caller)]

Right. And she's been seeing him for. He's been steady boyfriend for a year. Really cute you know, what do they say? Hottie. He's a hottie.

[Host (Birch)]

Have you guys had. I mean, is she having sex with him? Have you guys had the talk about that, or are you just assuming so, and you're gonna throw the whole you've got to be on birth control on her even though she may not even be thinking about having sex?

[Sue (Caller)]

Well, you know, I sort of talked to her, like I said. She did the big eyes and the shoulders attached to her ears, you know, like, you know, like, kids don't want to talk to their parents, that kind of thing. But I mean, she's in 11th grade and, you know, so did she say what? Are they still holding hands? Just in case.

[Taylor / Brittany (Callers)]

Just in case.

[Jen]

Did she say, mom, I'm not doing it, or did she just avoid it?

[Sue (Caller)]

She avoided it.

[Jen]

She's doing it. Yeah, I'll just answer that right now.

[Host (Birch)]

Yeah.

[Jen]

If she didn't scream and yell at you like, mom, I'm not doing it, or whatever, and she avoided you.

[Sue (Caller)]

She's doing I got to go do my homework, you know, that kind of thing, right? Yes, she's doing. I think she is.

[Jen]

Yeah. You're right.

[Male Co-host]

Wouldn't, though, and I'll address this to Bert, but wouldn't Stacey making a decision about Hayden that you disagreed with, making it behind your back, like, be like, that would be one of, I would guess, one of the biggest fights that you would ever have in your relationship.

[Host (Birch)]

Yeah, that's the second part of this whole thing that we're gonna get to is that this is not a decision that I don't think that you're allowed to make on your own.

[Jen]

I just don't think that daddies can look at their daughters very objectively or realistically, but it doesn't.

[Male Co-host]

I don't think that matters. Like, I think if you're making decision.

[Host (Birch)]

It'S your job to talk us into it then, I mean, because this is too big a decision. I mean, like a chemical decision. If you said it's a moral decision.

[Male Co-host]

I'm trying to think of what, like, with. With Hayden. But, like, if there was some life impacting decision, like, let's say you guys decided that you were going to raise Hayden Jewish and not Catholic, and then you found it, and you guys, you know, like, okay, that's fine, but we'll raise him Jewish.

[Jen]

Doesn't have the same consequences. It's a difficult analogy.

[Male Co-host]

But then behind your back, Stacey was taking Hayden to Catholic Mass regardless of the circumstance.

[Dana]

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[Host (Birch)]

Ideally. I mean, parenting, obviously, and so is marriage. It's Teamwork. You guys are a team. So I don't. I don't think it's right that you make this decision by yourself or for your daughter without talking to your husband about it or doing this together. I think it's.

[Male Co-host]

But she's already talked to him and he said no way.

[Sue (Caller)]

Not only no way, we're not. We've been fighting about it and he's not even speaking to me right now.

[Host (Birch)]

So that's really. I mean, there are two parts to attack here. There really are. Is A, is it appropriate for a mom to get her daughter on birth control? And B, if dad isn't cool with it, is it fine for mom just to go, you know what? This is something that you're never going to get. But I realize how important it is. I'm going to do it myself. So I guess there's two ways to attack it. What are your thoughts right off the bat, Jen?

[Jen]

Right off the bat, Absolutely. Your daughter needs to be on birth control pills. Absolutely. She needs to. So as far as, like, can a mother put her daughter on?

[Host (Birch)]

Yes.

[Jen]

I mean, a daughter at that, at that stage in her life is making adult decisions and needs some adult guidance and help with that, and if she can go to her mom and confide in her mom on what's. What she's doing sexually and, you know, and becoming sexually active and getting to a doctor, it's gonna be the healthiest thing for that teenager. It's gonna be the best decision for her. As far as the dad goes. I mean, I think you still gotta fight that battle, and I think you've gotta be honest with him about what you're doing. I don't think that you can go behind his back. But I also don't think that fathers can look at their daughters objectively and realistically as much as mothers can. Because, I mean, I just don't think that the dads can go, oh, oh, well, she's going to do it. I mean, dads can try to rule with an iron fist, but what dad doesn't realize is that's not going to work. Him just saying, no, absolutely not, you can't have sex is not going to keep her from having sex. So he could have a pregnant teenage daughter on his hands within the next year or two, and then what is ruling with an iron fist done?

[Male Co-host]

But under no circumstances, if dad says no, can you do that behind his back. Can't do it.

[Jen]

I think you've got to be honest with him. But I think you could defy him. I would Defy. I would defy my husband. If I had a teenage daughter that I knew was sexually active and he was refusing to allow her to go on the pill, I would openly defy him.

[Host (Birch)]

What? So you would say, look, I would do this behind your back, but you're wrong here. And we're going to get.

[Jen]

Yes.

[Host (Birch)]

That birth control.

[Jen]

Yep.

[Sue (Caller)]

Yeah.

[Host (Birch)]

All right, let me take a couple of calls. Sue, I'm gonna put you on hold.

[Sue (Caller)]

Okay.

[Host (Birch)]

And then I'm gonna turn the voice disguiser off, we'll take some calls, and then we'll come back to you. Okay?

[Sue (Caller)]

Okay. I really appreciate this. Thank you so much.

[Host (Birch)]

Thanks for calling. Hold on one second.

[Sue (Caller)]

Okay.

[Host (Birch)]

All right. And good morning, Taylor. You're on the Birch show. All the hits q100. Hi.

[Taylor / Brittany (Callers)]

Good morning. How are you?

[Host (Birch)]

All right. What's up?

[Taylor / Brittany (Callers)]

Good. I just wanted to talk to the mom. Thank God she is pro birth control because I work in a health department and that's kind of my solution for her husband. Bring him into a local health department and see all the children under 18 to 20 year olds pregnant. There's 13 and 14 year olds having kids, and it's not because we don't know that they're not doing it. It's because the parents aren't allowing birth control. The father. You have to do something to get that dad to put her on birth control.

[Host (Birch)]

It's a great way almost to shock somebody into seeing what the reality of it is to actually. If you could, talk him into bringing him down to the health department to see who's in that waiting room.

[Jen]

That's a great idea.

[Taylor / Brittany (Callers)]

You'll never realize it. Walk in the doors of any health department and you will see children with babies.

[Host (Birch)]

It's a great suggestion.

[Jen]

Great idea.

[Host (Birch)]

Thank you for calling.

[Taylor / Brittany (Callers)]

You're welcome.

[Host (Birch)]

It's fantastic because I think daddies always.

[Jen]

See their daughter, like, oh, not my daughter. Not Adrian, you know? Yeah. She's. She's in your mind. Do you guys remember that movie Father of the Bride? When they're at that dinner table scene and she looks at him and she says, dad, I'm getting married. And in his mind, looking back, it's this little four year old girl going, daddy, I'm getting married, or whatever. That's how dads are always gonna see their little girls.

[Host (Birch)]

Hey, Joy. Good morning. You're on the Burt show. All the hits Q100.

[Joy (Caller)]

Good morning. I support that mother 100% when they say there are battles you have to pick. This is one of those. You've got to pick. You can't change the fact after she's pregnant. You've got to prevent it. But you also have to explain to them that you're not condoning their behavior. You're just trying to prevent an unwanted pregnancy.

[Host (Birch)]

So let me ask you this. Let's say dad doesn't budge on this thing. No, no, no, no. Does she go around his back or does she just defiantly say, this is something that we've got to do, and I'm sorry you feel badly about it.

[Joy (Caller)]

You're protecting your child. And that's the number one job that a parent has. And sometimes it's not going to make everybody happy. But you have got to do your job to the best of your ability.

[Male Co-host]

The problem with.

[Joy (Caller)]

To the birth control pills, she's got to talk to her about preventing STDs and other unwanted critters.

[Host (Birch)]

Unwanted critters.

[Male Co-host]

But the problem is, it's not only your child. Like, you're protecting your child.

[Joy (Caller)]

I know.

[Male Co-host]

The child you have with your husband or your child.

[Joy (Caller)]

I know. But like Jen said, sometimes dads don't have that objective opinion about their daughters. They see them as the little girl they were raising in the little patent shoes. And they don't realize that the girls have come of an age where they are doing other things. And it's hard to admit, but it's easier to prevent it than it is to raise a child for 18 years.

[Host (Birch)]

You know, I'm struggling to try to think of a situation where a guy would have. The father would have so much more insight into a decision than a mom would, that if a mom said no, that a dad could say, this is the way it's got to be done. You have to go my way on this, because I know better, and nothing's coming to me.

[Jen]

Like something that would be going on with a boy.

[Host (Birch)]

Maybe.

[Male Co-host]

But I think you kind of said it right when you said it's Mom's job to convince dad. And if that means take him to the, you know, health center or whatever it's called, the health clinic. If it means whatever it is, it's Mom's job to do that. And that's. That should be her mission, not sneaking around behind his back.

[Host (Birch)]

Brittany here thinks it's a bad idea. Hey, Brittany.

[Taylor / Brittany (Callers)]

Hey.

[Host (Birch)]

Hi.

[Taylor / Brittany (Callers)]

I was actually just calling. You know, I'm actually still very young. I'm only 19, and I've had a lot of crazy, stupid boyfriends that act her daughter's age. I actually had a boyfriend for about.

[Sue (Caller)]

A year, a year and a half.

[Taylor / Brittany (Callers)]

And I Think that if my parents had actually decided to put me on birth control because they thought I was doing something I wasn't, and if they would have asked me about it, I would have given them the big eyes and told them to leave me alone. No, of course not. But I really wasn't. And I think that if they had tried to put me on birth control, it would have been a very bad idea. Because that's, because that's almost you giving into your daughter and saying, listen, it's okay, just do what you want, just be careful. I just want you to be careful. And if that's not what you want for your 15 year old daughter, I don't think that you should try to give her that kind of permission.

[Host (Birch)]

So without, so without knowing, as a 19 year old saying, without knowing for sure that your daughter is having sex, then don't make the suggestion or don't buy the pills because inevitably that will just be a green light to start having sex.

[Taylor / Brittany (Callers)]

No, I think that instead she should just be honest with your daughter. But not if you go to a teenager about something like that, just straight out say, you know, are you having sex? I need to know. I'm worried about, just, you know, be honest, be careful with how you approach the subject because you know, she's making adult decisions, but she's still partially a child. She's still, you know, trying to figure out what she's supposed to do. So be honest with her, approach her in a way that she knows that you're going to listen to him, you're going to understand and help her with whatever, you know, she's going through. But I don't think that you should just blindly say, well, you've had a boyfriend for about a year, so here's some birth control. Because in a 15 year old's mind that says, oh, okay, cool, so I can have sex now. It's okay.

[Host (Birch)]

Jen, what did sue say about the conversation that she had with her daughter that made you say, oh, yeah, for sure she's having sex?

[Jen]

Well, because she just sort of like never answered it.

[Host (Birch)]

And if she wasn't having sex, she would definitely say, look, I'm not even having sex?

[Jen]

Yeah, I mean, I think she'd be.

[Male Co-host]

Embarrassed, but like, mom, I think it's mom. I think it's the same thing. You could apply that anywhere in the world. Like if somebody accuses you of something that you blatantly did not, did not do. No. Are you kidding? No way. Are you kidding me? I did not do that. I did not borrow Your car. But if there's a chance that mom really knows the truth, then it's like, no, I didn't do that.

[Host (Birch)]

Hey, Sue. Hey, we gotta move on. But maybe the most valid suggestion, at least it looked like in this studio, was the first call that we took, right, from the woman that said, if somehow, some way, you can get your husband to the health department and he could sit in that waiting room for a couple of minutes and you could see all the 13, 14, 15, 16 year old kids that are in there, maybe that might shock him into being more open about the birth control babies having babies.

[Sue (Caller)]

Yeah, absolutely. I thought it was a great idea.

[Jen]

And I would not even tell him where you're going. I would just say, we gotta go somewhere. I need you to come with me. And don't bring your daughter. Just the two of you. Go and sit in the waiting room or, you know, make an appointment with somebody there and take him with you so that he can see it with his own eyes. But he might be defensive about it if you tell him where you're going.

[Sue (Caller)]

Absolutely. Absolutely. That was a great idea. You know, and I know that I can't do this behind his back. I think I always knew that in my heart. But, you know, I might have to do it, you know, in front of him and have him be mad at me. But, you know, I've got to do this. It's very important.

[Male Co-host]

Just so you know, the way guys operate, what you can do is you just start talking about it nonstop, day in, day out. This might take a little longer than, I don't know, say, the freaking zebra ottoman that Jessica wants. But if you stay in his ear about it every, eventually he'll go, fine. Animal prints are okay. Let's have animal print everything.

[Host (Birch)]

You will beat us down. You will chip away and chip away and chip away at that.

[Male Co-host]

Our house looks like a zoo.

[Host (Birch)]

We'll be strong at first. We'll put up a good front at first, but, you know, it's just a matter of you chipping away and chipping away and chipping away.

[Male Co-host]

Why don't we go checkpoint moose heads on the wall and make it look like a lodge?

[Taylor / Brittany (Callers)]

I don't care.

[Sue (Caller)]

Just stop talking to me.

[Host (Birch)]

Look, I'm 11 years now into the relationship with my wife, and when she asks me for my input now, it's to a point where I say, stacy, why are you even asking? Because I know if I say no, in another two months, it's gonna happen anyway. So thank you for respectfully manipulating me. All right, Sue.

[Jen]

Good luck.

[Sue (Caller)]

Okay, thank you so much.

[Host (Birch)]

Bye now.

[Taylor / Brittany (Callers)]

Bye.

[Sue (Caller)]

Bye.

[Host (Birch)]

This is the Bird Show.

[Jeff Bridges]

Morning, Zoe. Got donuts.

[Dana]

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[Jeff Bridges]

Well, I dig the mattress and I want to be in a T mobile commercial like you. Teach me. So. Dana.

[Dana]

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[Jeff Bridges]

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[Jen]

Nice.

[Dana]

Jeffrey, you heard them.

[Jeff Bridges]

T mobile is the best place to.

[Host (Birch)]

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[Jeff Bridges]

So what are we having for launch?

[Dana]

Dude, my work here is done.

[Announcer]

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[Taylor / Brittany (Callers)]

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[Host (Birch)]

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[Host (Birch)]

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