Vault: Quarterlife Crisis

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Bert Show – "Vault: Quarterlife Crisis"

Date: December 5, 2025
Main Hosts & Participants: Birch (host), Tracy, Ramona, Rachel, Jeff, and callers
Main Theme:
A candid and lively exploration of "the quarter-life crisis"—the period of uncertainty and upheaval that many people experience in their mid-20s. Through real-life stories and heated debate, the cast and listeners dig into what constitutes a quarter-life crisis, how it manifests, and whether it’s an excuse for avoiding adult responsibilities or a legitimate stage of modern adulthood.

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Core Discussion Points & Insights

1. Tracy’s Family Drama & Emotional Funk

• [01:33 – 04:33]
  • Tracy shares that she's been in a long-term funk, rooted in family conflict. Her father discovered she'd been living with her boyfriend, Scott, without his knowledge, sparking estrangement and passive-aggressive communication (“my dad just keeps sending me bible links”—Tracy, [01:44]).
  • Tracy and Scott disagree on how to handle her dad’s reaction; Scott suggests being flippant, while Tracy opts for confrontation.
  • Sharp generational and cultural expectations are highlighted: “It's just like the modern man to let the woman fall on the knife for him.” —Tracy’s father, relayed by Tracy ([03:16]).
  • The situation exemplifies the existential stressors of mid-20s life: relationship choices, familial expectations, and personal autonomy.

2. Ramona’s Quarterlife U-Turn

• [04:34 – 05:50]
  • Ramona calls in to share her quarter-life spiral: at 25, she quit her "grown-up job," broke off her engagement, and decided to move across the country to restart.
  • “I kind of just quit my job… jumped off and broke up with my fiance. And now I’m just—I think I’m just gonna move to California and stay with my parents and go to school.” —Ramona ([05:41])
  • She expresses feeling unfulfilled and acknowledges she hadn't accomplished personal milestones like traveling or finishing her degree.

3. Personal Testimonies on Young Adult Angst

• [05:51 – 07:18]
  • Jeff relates his own experience: working non-stop post-college while watching friends "find themselves" at ski resorts, feeling he missed something essential.
  • “Who am I? What am I doing? Have I just been moving too fast, like with blinders on, not to discover myself and all that?” —Co-host ([06:08])
  • Resolution: the "quarter-life crisis" may just be arriving at the realization life won’t match the idealism of college years.

4. Diverse Audience Reactions: Is It a Real Crisis or Immaturity?

- Caller Christina (08:23):

• Skeptical but empathetic: “Grow up, don’t quit over email. Suck it up. You’re an adult.”

- Rachel’s Perspective (15:43):

• Strongly critical: “I’m disgusted by these girls who are my age and even older who are using a quarter life crisis as an excuse to be immature and impulsive… Nobody is going to hand you your life on a silver platter.”

- Counterpoint (Tracy & Ramona):

• Ramona defends her decision: “If I had stayed with him, we would have got divorced… I’m glad that we broke up.”
• Tracy objects to “suck it up” advice: “What kind of advice is that?” ([18:55]) arguing for pursuing happiness, even if it looks unconventional.

5. Internet Proof: The Quarterlife Crisis Is "A Thing"

• [09:35 – 10:00]
  • Jeff references Google as validation and notes that the literature focuses especially on women concluding “Women all of a sudden go like a totally new life and they completely quit whatever industry they’re working in and find a new.” ([09:44])

6. Generational Economics & Living at Home

• [14:26 – 14:52]
  • Debate erupts around moving home in one's mid-20s.
  • Rachel: “I think it’s wrong for her to run back to mom and dad at 25.”
  • Tracy: “Whatever. When I graduated from college, I was, like, $30,000 in debt, and… I couldn’t even afford to pay rent… What was I supposed to do?”

7. Ramona’s Mental Health, Regrets, and Justification

• [17:05 – 17:33]
  • Ramona confesses panic attacks drove her to quit via email: “I could not go to work. You were scared… Like, serious panic attacks, like Tony Soprano on The Sopranos.”
  • She regrets her methods but stands by her need for change: “That was really immature. I let my co-workers down. It’s done, though.”

8. The Wisdom (and Limits) of Maturity Arguments

• [20:14 – 22:06]
  • Jeff: “The bottom line is in 24 months, she’s going to be a totally different person.”
  • Birch: “I don’t think it’s irrelevant because I think if you don’t ask yourself the questions… then in two years it becomes irrelevant because you have to.”
  • Rachel: “25 is not…the decisions that you’re going to stay with at 30.”
  • A recurring theme: questioning whether tumult is constructive self-exploration or just avoidant irresponsibility.

9. Advice and Empathy from Listeners

• [10:47 – 11:41]
  • Caller Natalie references Quarterlife Crisis (the book) which frames this period as a chapter of growth—“It’s not like it’s a bad thing. It’s just a moving on thing and moving forward.”

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “My dad just keeps sending me bible links.” —Tracy ([01:44])
• “It’s just like the modern man to let the woman fall on the knife for him.” —Tracy paraphrasing her father ([03:16])
• “I kind of just quit my job… jumped off and broke up with my fiance. And now I’m just—I think I’m just gonna move to California and stay with my parents and go to school.” —Ramona ([05:41])
• “Who am I? What am I doing? Have I just been moving too fast, like with blinders on, not to discover myself and all that?” —Co-host ([06:08])
• “Grow up, don’t quit over email. Suck it up. You’re an adult.” —Caller Christina ([08:23])
• “I think with me sticking through it, coming out on the other end, realizing that... That my friends that went to go find themselves… will eventually go through what I went through. I just went through it earlier.” —Co-host ([07:00])
• “I’m disgusted by these girls… using a quarter life crisis as an excuse to be immature and impulsive.” —Rachel ([15:43])
• “I’m glad that we broke up. And, you know, as far as mooching off my parents, you know, they’re really open to… help me out while I go to school.” —Ramona ([13:53])
• “I think it’s just these are tricky years for women here because you’re changing so much in these years from 21 to like 25, that was totally acceptable to you at 21 or 22, you’re just a different person…” —Birch ([19:39])

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [01:33 – 04:33]: Tracy’s family drama, parental conflict & generational clash
• [04:34 – 05:50]: Ramona describes her quarter-life overhaul—quitting job, breakup, moving home
• [05:51 – 07:18]: Hosts share personal experiences; the feeling of missing out and self-doubt in one’s 20s
• [08:23 – 09:32]: Caller Christina's tough-love take on the need to 'grow up'
• [09:35 – 10:00]: Google-proof: Quarterlife crisis is 'real', with examples focused on women changing paths
• [10:47 – 11:41]: Caller Natalie talks about the 'Quarterlife Crisis’ book and its advice—that this too shall pass
• [13:14 – 14:26]: Debate: Is moving home in your 20s regressive, or a smart reboot?
• [15:43 – 16:55]: Rachel’s hardline: “No excuses—grow up and work for what you get”
• [17:05 – 17:33]: Ramona on anxiety, panic attacks, and regret over her abrupt decisions
• [20:14 – 22:06]: Philosophical wrap-up: Will these struggles even matter in two years? Growth vs. responsibility

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Episode Tone & Takeaway

The episode is animated, funny, and deeply authentic—sometimes heartfelt, sometimes exasperated, always real. The hosts and callers do not shy away from generational divides or personal pain. The recurring thread is the messiness and uncertainty of your 20s, with no clear answers—should you follow your heart, even if it looks "immature," or is "toughing it out" a rite of passage? The cast leans into the notion that while everyone’s path is unique, the turbulence of a quarter-life crisis is nearly universal.

Final Word:
As Birch says, “You’re changing so much in these years… Why would you stay in a job if [you've changed]?” ([19:39]) The conversation closes with an acceptance that making mistakes, questioning choices, and even running home is part of growing up. Everyone, the cast seems to agree, is just muddling through—one quarter crisis at a time.

Transcript

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[The Birch Show Host]

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[Kimber]

How you doing today, Trace? You seem a little down. You all right?

[Santa]

Yeah, I've been down for a while.

[Jeff]

I don't know.

[Santa]

I'm going through a funk.

[Kimber]

Yeah, yeah, it's going through a couple of tough things. The dad thing's not working out so well.

[Santa]

No, my dad just keeps sending me bible links.

[Jeff]

Oh, God.

[Kimber]

Care about this?

[Jeff]

Yeah, we were just talking about it off the air. This is a rough time for Tracy.

[Kimber]

Really rough.

[Jeff]

Her dad's really struggling with her growing up and being an adult and still sees her as a little seven year old in pigtails.

[Kimber]

And we detailed, I mean in depth the last couple of weeks of this fight that she's in with her dad right now because she moved in with this guy named Scott and her dad didn't know about it for a year and a half and just found out about it and now he's like, hasn't talked to her at all but is just emailing her different bible links.

[Santa]

Scott thinks I should email him back just like random links to like movie times and Stuff because he's like, what the hell?

[Tracy]

I like that idea.

[Jessica]

I thought Jessica had the idea of emailing him back the link to the famous Bible book of, hey, you got divorced once.

[Santa]

Well, no, he didn't get divorced. He got his marriage annulled, which means that that's accepted in the Catholic Church, which basically, yeah, he was.

[Kimber]

However, he did live with a woman before they got married, correct?

[Santa]

Correct.

[Kimber]

So same situation.

[Santa]

He is still paying for his sins, and there are consequences to his actions, and there will be consequences.

[Kimber]

And what did he say about your boyfriend, Scott?

[Santa]

Oh, he. He asked why Scott did not. Did not call him and ask if it was okay with my father that we did this. And I said I didn't think it was Scott's responsibility to call because you are my father and this is my relationship, and therefore, I thought it would be my, you know, it's my place to call you and tell you this. And he says, it's just like the modern man to let the woman fall on the knife for him.

[Jeff]

Did you tell Scott that yet?

[Santa]

Yeah, I told him.

[Jeff]

You did.

[Tracy]

We told you not to tell him.

[Jessica]

Don't tell him that.

[Santa]

You just brought it up on the radio.

[Jeff]

He doesn't listen to us.

[Santa]

Yes, he does.

[Jessica]

You could have said, I'm not gonna tell him that.

[Kimber]

Why did you tell him this weekend? We across the board said, don't tell.

[Santa]

Him because I tell him everything.

[Jessica]

He'll never be able to face your father again. If Jessica's dad ever said that about me, I would never. It would. The relationship would have to end.

[Rachel]

Wow. Just like the modern man.

[Santa]

Oh, well, that's what I wrote back. And I said, I don't know if it's so much as the modern man or a barbaric and archaic view to think that my man needs to fight my battles with my father for me.

[Kimber]

So Tracy's gone through a tough time the last couple of weeks, and her boyfriend Scott is, like, in back to quarter life crisis. Well, this is, like, a great example. We're gonna talk to Ramona here in a second. But you're a perfect example of what happens during, like, one of these quote unquote, quarter life crises. And, you know, Scott, her boyfriend, is how old?

[Santa]

26.

[Kimber]

And he's in just the process of really, like, working his way up the corporate ladder. So he's busting his ass all the time. She's barely seeing him. So she's in a fight with her dad over a relationship with a guy that she's barely even seeing, even though she Knows that the relationship is right. She's going through this crappy time right now.

[Santa]

Yeah, it sucks. I'm in a total funk and I can't get out of it.

[Kimber]

Sorry, man.

[Santa]

That's all right.

[Kimber]

Hey, Ramona.

[Tracy]

Hi. What's up, guys?

[Kimber]

Do these sound like symptoms of the quarter life crisis?

[Tracy]

Yeah, that will be my diagnosis as well.

[Kimber]

You're going through kind of the same thing right now.

[Tracy]

I'm really going through it. Hard times.

[Kimber]

Go ahead and give us some details.

[Santa]

Well.

[Tracy]

As of a couple weeks ago, I was. Had a really cool job, you know, like my first kind of grown up job. I was engaged to a great guy. He's really wonderful. And I just lately, I mean, it's actually been for the past few months, I've just started to have doubts about everything. Career, you know, my place in the world type of thing. And I kind of feel like I've been slowly. It sounds weird, but maybe I don't know if I'm falling out of love with him. And also I'm realizing I'm totally not ready to get married at all. I haven't done enough. I still need to get my degree. I haven't traveled. I don't want to have kids right now. So I kind of just quit my job. You know, you talk about climbing up the corporate ladder. I jumped off and broke up with my fiance. And now I'm just. I think I'm just gonna move to California and stay with my parents and go to school.

[Kimber]

So this complete, like life change right now when you're how old?

[Tracy]

I'm sorry, I'm 25.

[Kimber]

25 years old.

[Jeff]

Perfect for the quarter life crisis. I felt like I kind of went through a similar thing around 25 and 26 too. Like, I had a lot of friends that after college they went to go find themselves, you know, and they were working at the ski resort out in Colorado and, you know, wearing their Birkenstocks and going to a whole lot of widespread panic shows and thought that that was them, you know, finding themselves and that sort of thing. And I didn't. I started my first job five days after graduation from college and started working and haven't stopped since. And So I, at 25, I was going through that same struggle. Like, okay, every. Like a lot of my friends who had gone and done that, I felt like maybe had gained something that I didn't gain because I was working, you know. You know, working, you know, 60 hours a week trying to make. Make a name for myself. And you know, in this town and in this city and just going crazy and felt like, who am I? What am I doing? Have I just been moving too fast, like with blinders on, not to discover myself and all that? But I think with me sticking through it, coming out on the other end, realizing that, I think that my friends that went to go find themselves, you know, on the ski slopes in Colorado will eventually go through what I went through. I just went through it earlier.

I think it's a realization that life's not going to be as dreamy as you had hoped it was when you were philosophizing about the world in college.

[Tracy]

I've been in the same industry since I was 18, like financial services. And I just, I don't hate it. I just kind of just fell into it. It's really the only job I can get and make a decent living without having a degree. If I decide to change careers, I kind of just need to go back to school. And then a few. Like before I quit, I was starting to get really nervous. I was having panic attacks at work, just. And I just kind of quit. And I just quit via email. That's how bad it was.

[Jessica]

Oh, God.

[Kimber]

Oh, come on. Can't quit vibe.

[Tracy]

I was just like, yeah, I kind of left them hanging. I was like, you know, I'm not feeling good.

[Kimber]

That's like what you do when you're at 6, 16 and you're working at Taco Bell.

[Tracy]

You're really like, childlike. But I cannot, if I, I. My health, like, I really couldn't stay there a day longer. I was just having issues.

[Rachel]

Come on now.

That'S an excuse. Quarter life crisis in this scenario is an excuse. I mean, because you should have. I mean, you got, you're an adult. You're an adult now.

[Kimber]

See, I still see. Well, let me take calls on this and we'll get back to it. But is there really such thing as a quarter life crisis for a woman? Good morning, Christina. You're on all the hits. Q100.

[Tracy]

Good morning. I do think that there is such thing as a quarter life crisis. However, I'm the same age as your caller and if this is the first real job she's had, she just needs to wake up and face reality because, I mean, it's growing up. It's a part of life. I'm 25. I've been working since I was 16. I've been on my own since I was 19. And like I said, if this is the first real time she's had to be out on her own and experience this stuff she's very fortunate. But I mean, grow up, don't quit over email. Suck it up. You're an adult. Get your foot out there, open the doors and make a life for yourself. You have to deal with the punches that come to you. Right. I've been actually been on my own since I was 19. I've been in the same industry since I was, I was, you know, I started at the bank teller, worked my way up to like now like financial advisor. So I've been working in the same, almost basically the same position for seven years. I do not want to be in here anymore. Like I want to, I've always wanted to teach. You know, in the situation I'm with my fiance, he has his degree, he's going back to get his master's, basically I would have to almost support him while he goes back to school. I won't have my degree for a long time. He wants to have kids after we get married. I'm totally not ready to have kids. So. No, I've been on my own for a while. I moved out of the house when I was 19.

[Kimber]

You know, go ahead, Jeff.

[Jessica]

If you Google quarter life crisis, it's like a real syndrome and it's. Everyone that's in here is related to career.

[Kimber]

Oh really?

[Jessica]

Where people are sitting around in their job and all of a sudden they, they're like, where am I going to be in five years? This is wrong. And women, the ones I found have focused on women. Women all of a sudden go like a totally new life and they completely quit whatever industry they're working in and find a new.

[Kimber]

Well, now's a great time because how many people, women, men, do you know that are 40 years old and at that 24 year old time period decided to stay in the job that they didn't like anyway, but it was, it was making, you were making some money and it started to feel comfortable and, and now they're looking back at their life at 40 years old going, damn, I should have changed things at 24. It would have been so easy.

[Tracy]

I totally want to change like before it's too late. I feel like before I'm like in my 50s and going, what did I.

[Rachel]

Do with myself before it's too late. She's 25.

[Kimber]

But I think that's real though.

[Tracy]

You feel that way and the money was good, but I mean, I'm starting to realize, you know, I'm not. My goals aren't about acquiring assets and making a lot of money. You know, I just kind of want to do Something I'm happy at. Right. I'm miserable at my job. I was miserable.

[Kimber]

Good morning, Natalie. You're on all the hits. Q100.

[Tracy]

Hey, I'm in the middle of reading the Quarter Life Crisis right now, and it's for both men and women.

[Kimber]

That's the name of a book.

[Tracy]

It is called the Quarter Life Crisis.

[Kimber]

Okay.

[Tracy]

It was two women that wrote it and they're in their early 30s now. Talking about the prime time to go through it is the age 23, 24, right out of college. And it's a lot of interviewing from other people. So it's just showing that the real life, queer life crisis going through everybody's individual life.

[Jessica]

So.

It'S actually already linked up on a website.

[Kimber]

Oh, it is. Oh, great.

[Santa]

Does it give advice on how to get over?

[Tracy]

Just basically tells you that you're going to have to get over it. You're going to have to move on. This is part of life and you just got to deal with it. I mean, it's. It's almost like it's another part of a chapter opening. You just. It's not like it's a bad thing. It's just a moving on thing and moving forward.

[Kimber]

It just sounds like the tweener stage. Like where you were younger and you were out partying and you could live pretty irresponsibly and you're not quite the responsible adult yet either.

[Santa]

I think it's part of that, but I think it's the fact that you have such high expectations for your life and then you realize that, what would.

[Tracy]

It say for me to do? I don't like, you know, I've actually already taken action. Me, my fiance over. I'm like homeless right now. I had to move out of our apartment. I quit my job and like, I'm moving to California asap. I don't have anybody to drive with. I'm kind of scared to drive by myself, but, you know, it's kind of already done for me.

[Santa]

You just broke up with your fiance and quit your job, but you're afraid to drive?

[Kimber]

Well, cross country to a place. Well, I guess your parents are there.

[Santa]

But still, that's a pretty. I mean, she's taken some pretty bold moves so far. Driving across the country would be the least of my fears.

[Tracy]

Well, I just, you know, I've seen too many things. I've heard some road horror stories, so I'm a little apprehensive about that.

[Kimber]

Ramona, I'm going to put you on with Keya here then. I'm Going to put you on. Rachel, who doesn't believe this quarter life crisis is a real thing at all.

[Tracy]

Okay, bring it on first.

[Kimber]

Kia. Hey, Kia.

[Tracy]

Hey, Bertra. How y' all doing?

[Kimber]

Great, thank you.

[Tracy]

I think you hit it on the nose. God, I wish I could be irresponsible again. I swear, I do not want to go to work right now, but I have to. I mean, it's like, come on. I think that one. She needs to call her fiance back. Do you know how hard it is to find a good man? Girl, you better hold on to him. And second of all, I think that she. I mean, she's like, in a tug of war. She doesn't want to be. She wants to be a child, but she has to be an adult. You cannot go running back to mommy and daddy, suck it up, do what you got to do.

[Santa]

But if she's not happy in her career and she wasn't happy in her relationship, I think that she's not happy in her career.

[Tracy]

At this age. You have to work yourself up there to get there. Go to school at night. You have to. You have to sacrifice.

[Kimber]

That's a fine line there, though, because you don't want to be stuck in a job that you don't like and continue to do it.

[Tracy]

I mean, you have to. Everyone's going through this. Act like she's someone special. You're just like everyone else. And you're going to go to Florida, you're going to leech. I mean, California, you're going to leech off your parents for who knows how long. Stay here and do what you got to do. You're going to be a better person when you come through it. Trust me.

[Santa]

I don't think so. I think she's going to end up being miserable and then wish that she had taken the steps when she was younger.

[Tracy]

And Victor's a good man and everything, but, I mean, like, I'm just wasn't. It wasn't right. And if I had stayed with him, we would have got divorced. It's better now, before anything happened. Then a year into the marriage, where I decided that, you know, I haven't really been in love with you. You're a great guy, and I married you because you're a great guy and you make a perfect husband. But, no, I'm glad that we broke up. And, you know, as far as mooching off my parents, you know, they're. They're really open to it. I moved out really fast, so, you know, they're willing to help me out While I go to school.

[Kimber]

What is the age for women that it is absolutely unacceptable for you to move back in with your par unless something totally tragic in your life happens?

[Rachel]

I graduate from college. You're an adult. I know. I think 20. I think she's. I think it's wrong for her to run back to mom and dad at 25.

[Santa]

Whatever. When I graduated from college, I was like $30,000 in debt. And I was. Wasn't making that much a year. And I couldn't. Melissa, I couldn't even afford to pay rent even if I had four roommates. What was I supposed to do?

[Rachel]

I mean, I. You know what? I had been.

[Jessica]

Jewel lived in her van.

[Rachel]

I had, you know, the thing is, like, I had cars repossessed. I got evicted from places because. Because I was broke in my 20s and never once borrowed money from my parents because I was an adult and it was my choice to be in the situations I was in. If I was in debt in college, that was my fault, which I had credit card debt coming out of college. And you know what? And I never went back to my parents because I was an adult and they taught me that. I mean, it was my responsibility.

[Tracy]

You know, the plan is maybe just to stay with my parents for maybe a year and then just to kind of, you know, save some money and everything. Plus, you know, I want to move back to California. All of my family's in California. I have nobody out here. I had his family and that's it. And I have a couple of my really good girlfriends out here. But, you know, it's also to be kind of closer to my family. I didn't really have anybody out here.

[Kimber]

Hold on one second. Ramona. Hey, Rachel. You don't. You don't buy this whole quarter life crisis thing?

[Tracy]

Well, I understand the whole quarter life crisis concepts, and I think in Tracy's situation, that it's probably pretty valid because she is working and she is trying to make life for herself, and she does try and sustain a relationship. But quite frankly, I'm disgusted by these girls who are my age and even older who are using a quarter life crisis as an excuse to be immature and impulsive. This whole crap with quitting your job over an email and dumping your boyfriend because you need to find yourself. It's called life. Grow up. You have to be an adult. You're supposed to go out there and make a life for yourself. Nobody said that life was going to be easy. I just graduated from college in May. I. I am now 24 years old. I Started a job at a law firm nine days after I walked across that stage and got my diploma. Why? Because I decided, you know what? It's time for me to be an adult. This is the next phase of my life. I control my own destiny, and nobody can do it but me. So sitting there and making excuses for it is ridiculous. And nobody is going to hand you your life on a silver platter. It's called suck it up and work for what you get. I. You know, in my sense, I feel like I'm being a little bit brave. The only thing I'm doing is quitting a job that I detest. Absolutely detest. I know. I don't want to do this anymore.

[Jessica]

Why did you do it by email? Because I think that's a sticking point for a lot of people.

[Tracy]

Because I was just like, I could not go to work. You were scared. That's a cowardly thing to do.

[Kimber]

How did you break?

[Tracy]

And I was panicked, you know, I mean, I was. Seriously, it sounds really bad. I had to go to the doctor. I would go to go to work and just freak out, you know, and then my fiance just did not want me to go to work another day.

[Jessica]

Was that freak out? Was that a medically diagnosed freakout? Or was that, like, I knew you.

[Tracy]

Were going to be mean. I'm not being mean.

[Jessica]

I'm just asking, like, you know, just.

[Tracy]

Know, like, serious panic attacks, like Tony Soprano on the Sopranos. Like, it was, you know, just anxiety attacks. So, you know, and that was. And I. And I really regret, you know, quitting by email. That was really immature. I let my co workers down. It's. It's done, though. And I freaked out, and I was kind of scared about that.

[Kimber]

Hold on, Ramonica.

[Tracy]

Different ways to handle something. Like, you don't quit a job until you have another one because you have bills. You don't break up with your fiance to the point where you don't have a place to live anymore. That's just ignorant. I mean, that's part of being an adult. Stay with him. Because I need a place to live. No, but there's a different way to handle it. Saying, you know, I think I'm falling out of love with you, or I think that, you know, I need some time to myself, to find myself, because I don't want to go into a marriage because it would be unfair to both of us. But until I find myself, until I have a place where I can live on my own and until I get my feet under me. Can you, you know, can we Work on this. I don't know. I don't want to work on it. We went through a discussion, you know, it's just best that we break up. And I'm not gonna stay there because I need a place to live. And it's also unfair to him for me to. We're asleep. I mean, we have a one bedroom. It's not. It's not practical for me to stay there when we're broken up. It was best for me to move out if we're not together. And I do have, you know, my friends I can stay with for a few weeks.

[Santa]

I just can't believe that we're telling or that Melissa and that some of these callers are telling this girl that if you're not happy with your job, suck it up. Cause that's life. Like, what kind of advice is that?

[Rachel]

Well, you have to suck it up until you find a better job. The fact that she quit via email because she just could not be there one more day, I think is immature.

[Santa]

Absolutely immature. Quitting via email is immature. And I think the way that she quit. Yes, but if you're not. If you're stuck in a life and you're not happy with your fiance and you're not happy with your job and you just can't stand it any.

[Rachel]

My thing is that you are expecting, but you were expecting a job to satisfy you 100% and you were naive to think it ever will. It's not.

[Santa]

No. But if she's only being satisfied 20% and it's possible that she can find another job that's going to satisfy her 80%, why on earth should she stay in that career and then run away.

[Rachel]

From Atlanta and go to California and live with her parents for a year until she finds something. I do think it's immature.

[Kimber]

I think it's just these are tricky years for women here. Because you're changing so much in these years from 21 to like 25. That was totally acceptable to you. At 21 or 22, you're just a different person. That's not gonna like the same thing. So why would you stay in a job if.

[Santa]

But she has no responsibilities. Her only responsibility is to herself. She doesn't have any.

[Kimber]

I'm agreeing with you, Tracy.

[Santa]

Okay.

[Kimber]

I do. I don't agree with breaking up, you know, or. Or leaving your job via email.

[Tracy]

But I said that was pretty stupid.

[Kimber]

Yeah, that was really pretty stupid.

[Tracy]

And I can't take. If I could take it back, I would, but I can't. It's done. Over. And it's totally out of character for me, too, you know.

[Jessica]

But, hey, Melissa, the bottom line is we're arguing this and we can argue and Melissa can argue that you're, you know, you're being immature and you're handling it wrong, and then people can call up and defend you and say, so she's doing it fine. But I. The bottom line is in 24 months, she's going to be a totally different person.

[The Birch Show Host]

Sure.

[Jessica]

Like, it's not going to. Like, this is irrelevant. You know what I mean? This is so.

[Kimber]

I don't think it's irrelevant because I think if you don't ask yourself the questions and ask you are where you are in life, then in two years it becomes irrelevant because you have to ask.

[Rachel]

But the thing is, you're going to ask yourself different questions. My point is you're always going to ask yourself questions. It doesn't. 25 is not the.

[Jessica]

But what difference does it make at.

[Rachel]

25 are not going to be the decisions that you're going to stay with at 30 or stay with at 30.

[Jessica]

Changing if she asks these questions in Atlanta or California, like, who cares?

[Rachel]

Well, that's my. I think that going to California, I think. I agree with. I think it's a. She's running away from something. California is not going to be the pinnacle of happiness that you could do it in Atlanta.

[Jeff]

I don't understand what you're saying, Jeff. I don't get your point.

[Jessica]

The bottom line is everybody, everyone in the world has had the thought, I'm just going to give it all up and go do something else. Like, I'm, like I'm done with it. Whether it's, you know, in college and it's your major that you're talking about, whether it's high school, making a decision to go to college, or when you get out and you get in your career, everybody makes. And every. Some people say, you know what? No, the responsible thing to do is to stay here and suck it up and pay my bills. Then some people say, no, screw it, I'm gonna go live with my parents in California for two years. But the bottom line is she is like, the lessons of life are gonna be learned no matter where you are. And she's 24 years old. Like who? Like who? Like, you can't.

[Santa]

I can't.

[Jessica]

But my concern argue that she should. There's. I have no basis of saying, like, I can't argue for her because if I make the argument like Melissa is so, you know, that she's being immature. And she shouldn't go. It's going to be irrelevant because in two years she's going to be a different person.

[Kimber]

When are you planning on taking off for California?

[Tracy]

Asap. It looks like I'm. I mean, the way it's going right now, looks like I'm going to drive by myself.

[Jeff]

So you might enjoy the time by yourself. I mean, certainly be careful and all that stuff, but, you know, you take your time and, you know, make sure you're safe driving and all that stuff. But it might be good to be alone.

[Kimber]

Call us on your way out to California. When you're in the car on the way to California, I'd love to talk to you and see how you're feeling.

[Tracy]

I really love your show. I listen to it every day.

[Drew Ski]

So thanks.

[Kimber]

You can still get us from California.

[Tracy]

Okay.

[Kimber]

All right, Ramon.

[Jeff]

Bye.

[Tracy]

Bye.

[Kimber]

See you later.

[The Birch Show Host]

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