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Visit borhearst.com the Birch Show all right, Maria is ready to go. Before we even talk to her, you guys, I wanted you to check out her son's pictures, okay? And what his hair looks like when he goes to middle school. Every day he's got himself kind of A bit of a Mohawk there. It's cut really close on the sides. And it's not one of those Mohawks that you see that's waxed up, you know, like a foot where you can pick it out of a crowd.
Maria
Right.
Burt
He definitely has a Mohawk, but it looks more like a caterpillar crawling down in the middle of his head. You know what I'm saying?
Melissa
Yeah, it's like a stripe, but it's not a big, huge tall one.
Burt
No. Well, the school that he goes to in Henry County, I believe Maria is going to tell us, not real happy with his haircut at all. So much so that they kicked him out of school. Hi, Maria.
Maria
Hello. How are you?
Burt
Good, how are you?
Maria
I'm not happy.
Burt
I bet. Well, go ahead, tell us what's going on.
Maria
My son got his hair cut over the weekend. He's had Mohawks throughout the year. He had his haircut on Friday. He goes to school on Tuesday, and five minutes later he calls me that he has to go home because he has a mohawk and he can't be in school with a mohawk.
Melissa
But he's had one all year.
Maria
He's had one throughout. He does different things with his hair, spikes it up and all that kind of stuff. So he's had one periodically throughout the year.
Burt
Okay, now this is really. This is an important fact right here. So what you need to do for us is describe what some of his other haircuts have been up until this point. Have they been sort of outrageous and attention grabbing?
Maria
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Never. Just little spikes, you know, with the gel. Never attention grabbing. He's just very picky about his hair.
Burt
Okay.
Maria
And so he called me on Tuesday, said I gotta go pick him up. So, you know, I'm like, I don't understand. You've had a Mohawk throughout the year at other times. So I turn around and I go back to school and the lady in the office tells me that the principal said he had to go home. So I'm like, well, go. Go get whoever it is I need to talk to. And I want to see in a handbook where it says Mohawk. I want to see the word. Well, they bring me the book. And the book doesn't say Mohawk. It says extreme hairstyles that maybe extreme hairstyles that may cause the other kids to not learn. He's got like he had. Because he doesn't have it anymore.
Burt
She writes in her email. It was officially an extreme hairstyle that would interfere with learning or cause a disruption of the educational Environment is what the handbook says, right?
Maria
That's correct.
Kevin
So the debate is over what's interpretation?
Burt
Interpretation.
Kevin
The word extreme.
Melissa
Subjective.
Maria
Well, let me ask you up to the principal of that. Of the school. My other son has a mohawk, went to school. Principal says, I like your hair. And he goes into the school, fine.
Burt
Now, that's in the same county, but a different school.
Maria
That's correct.
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Melissa
Okay. Now let me ask you about your son's behavior in school. I mean, is he a good kid? Does he get good grades, or is he a disciplinary problem?
Maria
You know, he's a good kid. He gets good grades. All of his teachers have good things to say about him. I mean, he's not a problematic child.
Melissa
Has he ever been sent to the principal's office for anything other than his haircut?
Maria
He did at one time, but that was a long time ago, and it wasn't even a principal's office. It was assistant principal. So he never talked to a principal?
Caller/Guest
Well, the assistant principal's always the one that, you know, he's the heavy good cop, bad cop.
Kevin
Yeah, that's how it was in art school.
Caller/Guest
Like principal, principal hands, principal's office. I don't go in there.
Kevin
Principal hands out awards. Vice principal hands out detention case.
Maria
Come to find out later on in the day, the lady who I spoke with wasn't even the principal. She was the assistant principal.
Kevin
Well, is she the one who asked your child to leave? Because that's who you need to talk to.
Maria
Yes, she is, But I'm going to go back today to speak with the principal, because I had reported it to the school board.
Melissa
So you.
Caller/Guest
I want to go back to your saying that he has had. He's. He had that. That same haircut periodically throughout the year.
Maria
He's had mohawks.
Burt
Okay. No, no, no. What Melissa's asking you is, has he had the same haircut, the same type mohawk, in different times throughout the year?
Maria
Yes.
Caller/Guest
Yes. Okay.
Burt
Has never been a problem up until last week.
Maria
Exactly.
Burt
Well, that's totally inconsistent.
Melissa
That's weird. Yeah.
Burt
And it's been the same assistant principal and same principal at school all year long.
Maria
Yeah.
Burt
So it's extreme now, but it wasn't extreme a couple of weeks or a couple of months ago.
Maria
It's extreme when they have four days left of school.
Burt
That's crazy. Four days left of school. Hey, Nick. Good morning. You're on the Burt Show.
Nick
Hey, good morning. I had long hair back in high school in the late 90s. And every three weeks, they would send me home from school because my Hair was past the collar and it just got ridiculous. So I went in front of the school board and tried my case and. And, and they just would not hear it. They would not, you know, change their ruling at all. And finally I just gave up and just shaved my head.
Burt
And that was acceptable because there are so. I mean, let's say you shave your head, you go bald, you come into school. If a principal decides that that's an extreme style and that you're interfering or disrupting the educational environment, then you're booted out anyway.
Melissa
Yeah, I would think somebody shaving their head bald would be more disruptive than his haircut.
Burt
There's just some inconsistencies going on here, you know, that just don't make any sense. First, you got four days left in the school year. He's had the exact same haircut in previous weeks or previous months, according to you, and they've never said a word to you about it before?
Maria
No.
Caller/Guest
Yeah, I think that's the problem I have because, I mean, if there's rules, there's rules. And if it's up for interpretation, I mean, unfortunately they're, you know, they can enforce these rules, but if they have not said anything before this, then that's where, you know, I think it's unfair that they kicked your kid out.
Burt
Yeah, I think you're right there, but.
Maria
Well, he went back to school because he had to get rid of the Mohawk. My husband took him, got rid of the Mohawk and took him back to school. My husband leaves the office. One of the ladies in the office refers to my son as the Mohawk kid. They all know his name. Are you sure he didn't wear it in spikes? No, no, no, no, no, no. You can see the picture that took that as I got in the car. It was not in fight. No, he's not a kid to go against the rules or anything. I mean, he's. No.
Caller/Guest
Was it was there like. Because I'm just wondering what happened that day that's different than the other times. Because the key is it disrupting class. I wonder if there's a disruption in the class he was in. Did they say anything?
Burt
Yeah, there's such strange inconsistencies here that I'm wondering if you argued, let's say you. We had the principal or the vice principal on what would their take on this whole thing be?
Maria
Class hadn't even begun. I dropped them off like at 7:57. Went to the cafeteria with the other kids. Class hadn't even begun yet. I mean, I don't and like you said, it's not spiced up. You have kids that go to school, like the first caller said, at his school, they have hair down to their shoulders, and that's not a disruption. You have these kids that go to school with all these lines in their heads and a Nike sign and stuff like that, and that's not a disruption. And I'm confused because that, to me is more of a disruption, the little lines through the head, than him having a slight mohawk.
Burt
Hey, Melissa. Good morning. You're part of the Burt Show. Hi.
Maria
Hi.
Melissa (Henry County Employee)
How are you?
Burt
Okay. What's up?
Maria
Good.
Melissa (Henry County Employee)
I work for Henry county also, and I will tell you, I'm sure other school boards do it also, but they leave the handbook very vague so that they can use it at their discretion. Because I will tell you, as working for Henry county school system and any other school system, you will see kids come out in the morning and come back in the afternoon, especially females dressed, ascertaining a certain way, and there's been nothing done about it. A hairstyle, to me, that's not caused to, you know, kick him out of school. For the last four days of school. When I see females dressed with, you know, skirts way up high and high heel shoes like they should be dancing in a shoe show.
Burt
But here's the. Here's the inconsistency here, Melissa. Shoe show is that. I understand that the handbook is very vague because each principal and each vice principal are going to have their different interpretations of it. But if he had the same hairstyle for months and months and months, they've been interpreting it as. Okay, up until this point.
Melissa (Henry County Employee)
Right, exactly. And if this principal or vice principal, whoever saw him this time, maybe didn't see him last time and saw him and said, oh, well, you know. And it also depends on the day they're having. I'm sure that's why they leave it so vague.
Melissa
Yeah. I just think that it has to be rooted in something he said in the classroom or walking in. You know what I mean? To me, it seems like their excuse to discipline him for something else. Did he tell you any interaction he had?
Maria
No. He's very. No, no.
Kevin
And I, like, I might be confused. Like, did he have. Did he wear a mohawk throughout the school year?
Maria
Not throughout the whole year. He's had it at one time or another, and I'd say more than 10 times. More than 15 times throughout the year, he's had a mohawk. He's very finicky about his hair. He constantly changes his hair, gets different haircuts.
Kevin
But how, like. And I'm not sure. I'm just.
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Sometimes he has a little longer.
Burt
Other times it's in a Mohawk.
Kevin
Yeah, but I just want to make sure that we're. Because I agree that there's gotta be something else. So just so that we're representing the facts accurately, is it physically possible to have and then not have a Mohawk 15 times during a 9 month school year?
Maria
Yes, it is. His hair grows fast and he can actually, if his hair's grown out, he could still make a mohawk.
Caller/Guest
Yeah. I know guys who change their hair all the time and guys hair, if they grow fast, you can change it fast.
Melissa
He's in middle school. He doesn't have a whole lot of control over expressing himself like, and through his hair is the way he's able to do it.
Melissa (Henry County Employee)
Yeah.
Burt
This is such a. This is such a bizarre conversation. As a guy that grew up in San Diego, where everybody sort of strives to be independent from each other and you had the weirdest haircuts and the weirdest way to dress. And it was encouraged by our teachers in San Diego, but it's a little more conservative out here and the counties are a little more conservative, so this would be a problem.
Melissa
But I just. Yeah, it doesn't make any sense.
Kevin
I'm guessing you went to a school where they were partying with the students. Bert,
Burt
Good morning, Keir. You're on The Burt Show. Q100.
Caller
Hey, how are you doing?
Burt
Okay.
Caller
Yeah, I guess, you know, you kind of just touched on what I think the core issue is, and we're not even really talking about it. You know, we're kind of arguing over their interpretation of this rule and when it's right to apply it, when it's not.
Nick
But the whole rule is absurd.
Caller
I mean, these kids, we don't give them much these days. You know, they're so in. In their own lives, in my space. And we're arguing about whether or not this kid's hair is too long or too short or too cut. Who are they hurting?
Caller/Guest
We've had the same footloose conversation for decades.
Burt
Where's the independence Dance, Kevin Bacon dance.
Caller/Guest
Get in your butt, fucking bug, and go to the barn and do gymnastics, damn you.
Kevin
You know what? I'm going to go to an empty warehouse with a beer bottle and get mad and throw the beer bottle and then dance. I'm going to dance, damn it. With a mohawk.
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Burt
Hey, Maria, let us know how it turns out. But I mean, if your story is accurate, it. You certainly Certainly have a case.
Maria
Yeah. And I have. I mean, I'm more angry now when he told me that he went back to school, that the comment that he was a Mohawk kid and kids were making fun of him yesterday at school when he went back than I was before the whole situation even began.
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And with four days left in the
Burt
school year, some may write, yeah, yeah.
Maria
And he doesn't even want to go back to school because they were making fun of him now because he doesn't have hair.
Caller/Guest
So he's been made fun of now. He wouldn't be made fun of before now that they kicked him out and he had to cut his hair and he came back. Now they're making fun.
Kevin
Well, they're making fun of him because he got in trouble.
Melissa
So now it's a disruption of the classroom.
Burt
Right now it's a disruptive.
Maria
A haircut like he has now.
Burt
Maria, let us know how it all turns out. But like I said, I think if everything you're saying is accurate, you certainly have a good case.
Maria
Okay, I will. Thank you.
Burt
All right. Thanks a lot. Bye.
Maria
Bye.
Burt
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Date: April 7, 2026
Hosts: Burt, Melissa, Kevin
Main Guest: Maria (the mother)
Theme: School Dress Codes, Student Self-Expression, Consistency in School Policy
In this episode, The Bert Show explores a listener-submitted drama: Maria, a mom whose middle-school-aged son was forced to leave school and cut his mohawk hairstyle just days before the end of the school year. The episode spotlights questions around subjective school rules, consistency, self-expression, and the impact such decisions have on kids. The hosts discuss the story with Maria, take calls from listeners with similar experiences, and reflect on the wider issue of how schools interpret and implement appearance policies.
This episode of The Bert Show dives deep into frustrations many parents and students feel about subjective, inconsistently enforced school appearance codes, especially as they affect personal expression. Maria’s story becomes a lens for discussing broader questions around fairness, student autonomy, and the real-world consequences—highlighted when the supposed solution (cutting the mohawk) actually leads to more bullying and classroom disruption.
Final thought from the show:
“If your story is accurate, you certainly have a good case.” —Burt (13:47–13:54)