The Bert Show Podcast Summary

Episode Title: Vault: She Ditched Him Because Of The One Thing He Didn't Offer Her
Date: December 19, 2025
Hosts: Bert, Kristin, Abby, Cassie, Tommy & The Bert Show Cast
Episode Theme: Second Date Update – Small Gestures, Big Meanings in Dating

Overview

This episode centers around a classic "Second Date Update": Chad seeks closure after an apparently great first weekend with Charlie, only to be ghosted afterward. The cast and listeners dive into a surprising relationship deal-breaker: Chad didn't offer Charlie his bed when she crashed at his place, and this small courtesy, or lack thereof, sparked a bigger discussion about dating etiquette, chivalry, and personal expectations.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Chad & Charlie’s First Encounters

• [01:49] Chad’s Story:

  • Newly divorced, Chad’s friends set him up with Charlie.
  • They meet at a party, connect, share drinks, and kiss.
  • The next day, they go on a date: drinks and appetizers at Houston’s → movie at Phipps Plaza → hang out at Chad’s place.
  • Charlie stays over due to the late hour but sleeps on the couch while Chad takes the bed.
  • Afterward, Chad tries to call; Charlie doesn’t respond.

• Chad’s Reflection:

  • He’s confused, believing the dates went perfectly—“I can’t imagine what would have happened.”
  • He hopes the show can help him gain closure.

2. Initial Theories and Gender Perspectives

• [04:23] The Cast Speculates:

  • Was something off at Chad’s place?
  • Did he snore or was the living room weird?
  • He insists he cleaned thoroughly and had nothing incriminating.

• Listener Call-in:

  • “Does she know you like her?”
  • Focus shifts to the sleeping arrangements: was she upset being given the couch?

3. Charlie Reveals the Real Deal-Breaker

• [06:33] Charlie Joins the Show:

  • Admits surprise at being live on air but opens up.

• [07:49] The Missing Gesture:

  • “I just kind of thought, like, you didn't even offer that I could... you didn't even offer up, like, your bed. Like, I don't know. I'm used to if I have guests, I always give up my bed for a guest.” (Charlie, 07:51)
  • She was raised to always offer the best accommodation to guests, and found his omission rude.
  • “I don't think that is being a gentleman. I think it's kind of like just sticking me on the couch.” (Charlie, 08:52)

• [09:12] Hosts Respond:

  • The cast splits:
    • Some agree the offer should always be made (“At least you make the offer even if it grosses you out.” – Bert, 09:12)
    • Others (mainly Cassie) find using an unknown guy’s sheets a little “gross.”

4. Tip Etiquette – Another Small Signal

• [11:06] Another Detail Surfaces:

  • Charlie notes Chad allowed her to pay the tip at their restaurant.
  • “He wanted to pay the whole bill… so I said ‘well, can I pay the tip?’ and he let me, and I don’t like that. He should have been like, ‘no, are you crazy?’” (Charlie, 11:34)

• Cast Reaction:

  • The expectation isn’t universal—some see Chad refusing as controlling, others as chivalry.

5. Feedback & Resolution

• [12:53] Listeners Weigh In:
  • Some support Charlie’s perspective: “He probably should have just honestly offered the bed and told her that he would sleep on the couch.” (Listener Aaron, 13:05)
  • Chad explains his intent:
    • Was trying not to be presumptuous or seem as if he wanted to push the relationship into the bedroom.
    • “If I say, here, come into bed, that means that maybe I'm gonna end up being in there too, because I'll try to kiss you more, and then we'll be in the bed. Like, let's move this to the bedroom. You know what I mean?” (Chad, 14:08)

6. The Aftermath: Are They Going Out Again?

• [14:34] Second Chance?
  • Charlie, upon hearing Chad’s explanation, reconsiders.
    • “I would (go out again)... Now that I hear him explain, makes sense to me. And I probably shouldn't have cut him off so quickly.” (Charlie, 15:26)
  • Bert summarizes, “At least you got closure, Chad!”

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• "It's just the offer."
  (Charlie, 10:13)

  • Summing up her core issue—she wasn’t looking for the bed, but the gesture.

• "I can't win on that one. It just depends on person to person, really."
  (Chad, 12:50)

  • Highlighting universal confusion around dating expectations.

• "If you say, 'I'll get the tip,' just mean that. I want to get the tip, as opposed to... because I was gonna pay the whole thing."
  (Chad, 16:33)

  • Frustration with “mixed messages” in dating.

• "We're so encrypted."
  (Cassie, 16:34)

• "Everybody has a sign. ...if the guy doesn't open your door for you, then he's probably not a guy you want to continue going out with."
  (Bert, 15:10)

Important Timestamps

• [01:49] Chad recounts the timeline and details of the two dates
• [06:33] Charlie is brought on air
• [07:49] Charlie identifies the lack of an offer for the bed as the main reason she ghosted Chad
• [09:12] Group debate on whether the bed should be offered
• [11:06] Second "sign": splitting the tip at dinner
• [13:03] Listener feedback supporting the importance of courtesy
• [14:08] Chad’s motives explained—didn’t want to seem presumptuous
• [15:26] Charlie reconsiders and is open to a second date
• [16:33] Chad and the cast reflect on dating “signals” and mixed expectations

Tone & Takeaways

The episode maintains the light, banter-filled tone characteristic of The Bert Show, blending authentic humor with earnest dives into modern dating psychology. The hosts and listeners candidly explore the complexity of small gestures—what seems minor to one can mean everything to another. The debate is lively and at times gender-divided, but ultimately constructive, and the episode ends on a rare happy note as both parties agree to another date after honest communication.

Key takeaway:
Sometimes, it’s not about the bed—it’s about the offer. Small acts of courtesy set the tone for how we feel about each other, especially in those all-important first dates. Clear, honest communication (even if awkward) is often the real key to connection.

For listeners:
This episode is a strong dose of dating reality and a reminder that little things matter—sometimes a lot. It's relatable, funny, and, this time, even heartwarming.