Vault: She Just found Her Boyfriend's Sex Tape!

Summary

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The Bert Show: Vault – She Just Found Her Boyfriend’s Sex Tape!

Date: December 12, 2025
Hosts/Cast: Bert, Kristin, Abby, Cassie, Tommy, Jeff, Melissa, guest callers
Theme: Relationship Drama – What if you found your partner’s explicit tape with an ex?

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Episode Overview

This episode dives into a real-life dilemma brought by a listener, Melanie, who discovers a sex tape of her boyfriend and his ex—accidentally playing in his living room while prepping a birthday surprise for him. The Bert Show cast and listeners fiercely debate the meaning and the "rules" around past relationships, privacy, snooping, and how much the past should matter to the present.

Tone: Energetic, confrontational, funny, candid

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Key Discussion Points

1. Melanie’s Story: The Accidental Discovery

• [01:56–04:11] Melanie recounts prepping a birthday surprise for her boyfriend. After decorating, she relaxes and accidentally triggers a tape in the VCR—only to discover graphic footage of her boyfriend and his ex-girlfriend (“...a tape goes on, and it was a tape of him having sex with his ex girlfriend.” —Melanie, [03:46]).
• The tape is over two years old, filmed before her relationship with him, but its placement in the VCR is suspicious and upsetting to Melanie (“Why was that tape in his VCR to begin with?...why is he watching his ex girlfriend?” —Melanie, [04:11]).

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2. Boiling Point: Reactions, Confrontation, and Emotional Fallout

• [04:37–05:16] Melanie describes confronting her boyfriend. Rather than explaining or apologizing, he gets angry at her for being upset—a “classic guy move,” says Melissa.
• Melanie vents over the emotional fallout: the ruined birthday, leaving early, and radio silence since that night (“His birthday is totally spoiled...I left. I ended up leaving that night and we haven't spoken since.” —Melanie, [07:12]).

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3. Heated Debate: Who’s in the Wrong?

The panelists and listeners fiercely debate:

• Did Melanie intrude or snoop?

  • Some callers and Jeff argue she shouldn’t have been there, let alone watching his personal tapes.
  • Others stress her intentions were pure: she was decorating, not snooping, and the discovery was accidental.
  • (“This woman wasn’t snooping. She went in there to decorate his place for his birthday.” —Bert, [11:08])

• Significance of the Tape’s Existence

  • Melissa and Host: Strongly believe having an old sex tape in the VCR (versus boxed away) suggests he’s still emotionally involved or fantasizing about his ex—raising red flags for the current relationship.
  • Jeff, Crash, Michael Checkaway: Downplay the significance—arguing it’s akin to keeping old photos, old memories. They claim a tape from years ago is harmless.
    • (“It’s just like looking through a photo album...Maybe he just wanted to reminisce a little bit.” —Crash, [09:31])

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4. “Should You Have Watched the Whole Tape?”

• Jeff needles Melanie about why she watched the entire tape, arguing that makes her complicit or at least equally curious.

  • (“So you turn the TV on and you see these horrible images...So of course you turn away and cover your eyes and only watch two seconds of it, Right?” —Jeff, [05:49]. “No way.” —Melanie, [06:01]. “I watched the whole thing.” —Melanie, [06:04])

• Melissa points out the hypocrisy—everybody would watch if faced with that curiosity.

  • (“Like you wouldn't have watched the whole thing if you had busted a tape of Jessica with her ex? You would have watched the show.” —Melissa, [06:27])

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5. Privacy, Boundaries, and Double Standards

• Some argue Melanie violated privacy by using her boyfriend’s key or staying in his place alone. Others flip the scenario: if roles were reversed, would men take it so lightly?

  • (“If your man had a sex tape of him and an ex girlfriend in his VCR, you would be livid.” —Bert, [07:57])

• The team also questions why two years into a relationship, she doesn’t have a key, and what that says about trust and boundaries.

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6. Relationship Red Flags: Fantasizing About the Ex

• Melissa, Host, Bert: The emotional impact is not just about privacy but about what it reveals: is the boyfriend still attached? Is he fantasizing about someone else when with Melanie?

  • (“And it makes me think that every time he has sex with me, he's thinking about her.” —Melanie, [12:47]; “You know what this reveals is that there's something going on...Run, run, run.” —Melissa, [12:12])

• Crash and Checkaway: Suggest this is blowing up something normal, that revisitng one’s past doesn't undermine a current relationship.

  • (“...Maybe he just said, hey, oh, wow. Why not?” —Crash, [14:54])

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7. Relationship Expert’s Input (Michael Checkaway)

• [15:23–17:30] Relationship expert Michael Checkaway calls in.
  • He claims the underlying issue isn’t the tape; it’s normal for people to have a past, even if it sometimes surfaces in awkward ways.
  • He flips the argument: Fantasizing about a past lover happens, tape or not.
  • The group pushes back—arguing watching a personal sex tape is substantively different from just a passing memory or generic porn.
    • (“...it only seems creepy because the guy got caught.” —Michael Checkaway, [16:26]; “I think it’s a little bit more with an ex or something like that. It's more real...it's a better fantasy.” —Michael Checkaway, [17:10])

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8. “Move On, Sweetheart” – Final Advice

• With the room divided, the consensus among several cast members is that Melanie should walk away for her own emotional well-being, not because she did wrong, but because the trust is broken and there are “creepy red flags.”
  • (“Move on, sweetheart. There's better guys out there without the creepy other side.” —Melissa, [18:23])
  • (“I think it’s good she discovered this because he’s got something to hide.” —Bert, [14:43])

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On watching the whole tape:
  • “I watched the whole thing.” —Melanie, [06:04]
• On male double standards:
  • “If your man had a sex tape of him and an ex girlfriend in his VCR, you would be livid.” —Bert, [07:57]
• On emotional impact:
  • “And it makes me think that every time he has sex with me, he's thinking about her.” —Melanie, [12:47]
• On relationship red flags:
  • “You know what this reveals is that there's something going on with your boyfriend that you don't know about...Run, run, run.” —Melissa, [12:12]
• On minimizing tapes:
  • “It's just like looking through a photo album...Maybe he just wanted to reminisce a little bit.” —Crash, [09:31]
  • “It only seems creepy because the guy got caught.” —Michael Checkaway, [16:26]
• The last word:
  • “Move on, sweetheart. There’s better guys out there without the creepy other side.” —Melissa, [18:23]

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Important Timestamps

• [01:36] Start of Melanie’s story
• [03:46] Discovery of the tape
• [04:11] Melanie’s emotional reaction
• [07:12] Fallout of the relationship
• [09:31] Comparing sex tapes with photo albums
• [12:12] Melissa’s “run” advice
• [15:22] Relationship expert’s input
• [18:23] Consensus: “Move on, sweetheart”

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Takeaways

• Privacy versus honesty: The line between respecting a partner’s past and being honest about what’s lingering in the present.
• Red flags: Keeping (and possibly watching) graphic mementos of exes can signal lingering attachment and undermine trust.
• Double standards: Both genders struggle with past baggage—but often judge differently.
• Consensus: If trust and truth are in doubt, it may be time to leave.

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The episode stands out for its spirited debate, unfiltered takes, and the visible split on the central dilemma—making it not just an advice segment, but a lively, thought-provoking group therapy session on air.

Transcript

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[Announcer]

Hey, the Birch Show.

[Host]

Now all the hits, Q100 and the Birch Show. And I kind of teased you guys telling you what's going on in Melanie's life right now. Hey, Melanie.

[Melissa]

Hi.

[Host]

I gotta tell you, I was telling these guys what I think I know about your situation. And it was a unanimous. Oh my God.

[Melissa]

Oh, Lord.

[Host]

Maybe I got some of the details wrong. So go ahead.

[Melanie]

Okay. Monday was my boyfriend's birthday.

[Host]

Okay, so this is a boyfriend? I thought it was a husband.

[Melanie]

No, no, no. It's my boyfriend. And we've been together almost two years. And we had lunch together. Excuse me? We had lunch together. And when we were at lunch and he went to the bathroom, I took his Key. Ask me why he has two keys on his key ring. Anyway, to his house. So anyways, I took one of the keys to the house and I went to his house and I decorated his entire place for his birthday.

[Melissa]

That's sweet.

[Melanie]

Like, streamers. And I had confetti. I put candles up. I had roses all over the bedroom. And then coming from the front door, like, leading up to the bedroom, I baked a cake. I did all this stuff for him, and I was really excited for him to come back and see all this. So I had like, an extra half an hour before he was coming home, and I sat down in his living room and I went to turn on the tv, and he just got devo. Like, I don't know how to use. So he just got this TiVo and it's hooked up to his VCR as well. And next thing you know, it started playing the vcr.

[Jeff]

Okay, and why is it that no girl can operate a remote control, no matter how simple?

[Host]

I'm right there with you. It took me four weeks to figure out how to use these things.

[Melanie]

Okay, have you guys ever looked at this evo thing?

[Host]

I know.

[Bert]

I want to get to the tape.

[Host]

Yeah, okay. Yeah, yeah.

[Bert]

Shut up, Jeff. Okay, so the tape starts playing.

[Melanie]

Yeah. So a tape goes on, and it was a tape of him having sex with his ex girlfriend.

[Host]

Okay, let me do this. Also here again, we. Hold on one sec. Melanie. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Generally, we save this kind of conversation for after 8:30. But just know this, we're moving that up to about 8:18 today. So if you've got kids in the car, you probably don't want to hear the rest of this conversation. So there's your warning. Go ahead. I'm sorry.

[Melanie]

Oh, thanks. Anyway, so it's not. I mean, the tape wasn't made while he and I were together. It was timestamped. So it was from, like, God, over two years ago. It was before we were together. But I am just like, I am so upset because. Why, okay, why was that tape in his VCR to begin with?

[Melissa]

Yeah.

[Melanie]

And if he was watching it now, and why is he watching his ex girlfriend? So I was really, really, really upset. And when he came home, I just, like, you know, the bubble was burst. I just was not excited, you know, obviously. And I got really upset with him, and I confronted him about it, and he turned the whole thing around and actually thought, yeah, he got mad at me. He got really mad at me for getting upset.

[Melissa]

That's classic guy move number one.

[Melanie]

Not even for like running into the vcr, into the tape and watching it. That didn't even come up. It's about the fact that I'm upset about the tape.

[Jeff]

Well, I hope you've learned your lesson about touching a guy's electronic gear.

[Host]

Go ahead, Shannon.

[Michael Checkaway]

Now, how long.

[Melissa]

How long was he with this ex girlfriend?

[Jeff]

On the tape or in real life?

[Melissa]

No, I mean in real life. Like how long was their relationship?

[Melanie]

Not that long at all. Like six months. I've been with him almost two years.

[Jeff]

You know what? I'm just feel. I'm in an anti woman mood right now.

[Host]

I don't know why of right now.

[Advertiser]

Yeah.

[Jeff]

But let me ask you a question. This was such a.

[Host]

You can't turn this around. You're not going to turn this around.

[Jeff]

I just want to ask her a question.

[Melissa]

Classic guy move.

[Jeff]

So you turn the TV on and you see these horrible images that are probably burning the retinas in your eyes.

[Melanie]

Absolutely. Yeah.

[Jeff]

So of course you turn away and cover your eyes and only watch two seconds of it, Right?

[Melanie]

No way.

[Host]

Well, what's the difference?

[Jeff]

How much did you watch?

[Melanie]

I watched the whole thing.

[Jeff]

Why would you do that?

[Host]

Either way. So why does that make her guilty?

[Bert]

Oh, j. You know what? You were trying to make a case out of nothing. I'm not trying to make a case out of.

[Jeff]

You know what? You shouldn't have watched the whole thing.

[Host]

It's not you.

[Melissa]

Oh, she did do.

[Host]

She did not.

[Advertiser]

Shut.

[Bert]

Put him in the penalty box.

[Jeff]

Am I voicing an opinion? I mean, you shouldn't have watched.

[Bert]

Jeff.

[Jeff]

What?

[Bert]

Shut.

[Melissa]

Like you wouldn't have watched the whole thing if you had busted a tape of Jessica with her ex? You would have watched the show.

[Jeff]

I would not have watched. I don't want to see that. I don't want to think of all those images.

[Host]

Totally inconsequent. Totally inconsequent.

[Jeff]

Women. Most women bring problems.

[Melissa]

Shut up, Jeff. Shut up, Jeff.

[Bert]

Thank you, Bert.

[Jeff]

Now I can't voice an opinion.

[Bert]

Yeah, exactly. Shut up. So, Melanie, I'm like a woman in Afghanistan.

[Host]

There's. Mike's off. 60 seconds of the penalty box.

[Bert]

Hey, Melanie. Melanie, you still there?

[Host]

Melanie?

[Bert]

Okay, now, is he still your boyfriend?

[Melanie]

Well, we haven't spoken since Monday because.

[Bert]

I. I said off air, when we talked about this, I said that the clothes would all. Well, of course you don't live together, but yeah, I. I can't believe some.

[Host]

Of the calls coming in.

[Bert]

The clothes would be on the lawn.

[Melanie]

His birthday is totally spoiled. I mean, like, we didn't even do anything Birthday and I left. I ended up leaving that night and we haven't spoken since.

[Host]

Hold on one sec.

[Melissa]

Here.

[Host]

Hey, Tammy.

[Melanie]

Yeah, hi. Go ahead, say. I think she's kind of the one who's wrong here. Because she went into his apartment. He was at his house.

[Host]

Listen to what she was doing though.

[Melissa]

You guys, I thought he.

[Melanie]

Penalty box.

[Bert]

Women.

[Host]

Tammy, Tammy, Tammy. Did you hear the whole story? She went in there to like, I don't care.

[Melanie]

Decorate for his birthday.

[Bert]

Been dating for two. I was surprised she didn't already have a key.

[Jeff]

Don't matter.

[Melanie]

I'm sorry, but she didn't have a key.

[Bert]

You know, let me tell you something, honey.

[Host]

If your man had.

[Bert]

If your man had a sex tape of him and an ex girlfriend in his vcr, you would be livid. You were being a hypocrite.

[Melanie]

No, I'm not.

[Jeff]

You're right.

[Melanie]

It would be different if it was in their house.

[Melissa]

Oh, my God.

[Host]

Going out for two years. She was trying to do something nice for him.

[Jeff]

Listen to this, Tammy, don't go anywhere because I need backup. But you know what? If you. You reverse the situation and a guy steals the key to a girl's house and goes in and finds something nasty in the girl's house. The girl immediately says, why did you come? I can't believe you did that.

[Host]

This is my big father.

[Bert]

You are crazy.

[Melissa]

It doesn't matter which way it goes on.

[Jeff]

Listen to you guys.

[Bert]

Disgusting, isn't it?

[Jeff]

And your voice is getting higher.

[Melissa]

Listen, he was currently.

[Melanie]

Listen to me.

[Host]

Go, Jen.

[Melissa]

He was currently watching a sex tape of him and his ex and in.

[Jeff]

Privacy of his own home.

[Melissa]

Oh, please, Charlie.

[Host]

God, you're such a. Charlie. Deflected.

[Announcer]

What?

[Bert]

The real problem is, Jeff, you're just trying to make. You are just trying to make controversy. You don't believe what you're saying and you know it.

[Jeff]

What if he watched it?

[Bert]

I don't believe a word you're saying.

[Jeff]

What if he watched the sex tape every night of their relationship for the first two years and they had a great relationship for two years. Why does this change things?

[Host]

Totally changes everything.

[Melissa]

Because he's. If the person watching his ex.

[Bert]

If the person I'm seeing is fantasizing about their ex, something's wrong with our relationship? Yes.

[Host]

I don't even think it. In that case. In your case there. I don't think it has to do with the ex. If the girlfriend or the boyfriend is using porn every single day to have before you guys are having sex. There's a bigger problem there than Even that it's the ex.

[Crash]

I know you guys are gonna scream and yell, but I have to side, and I'm not doing this just because it's radio. I have to side with Jeff. It's just. It's just like looking through a photo album. You've got X's in your face. You have exes in your photo. You have exes in your photo albums. You have past memories. Maybe he just wanted to reminisce a little bit.

[Knox]

It's not.

[Crash]

It really is. It's not. I don't think it's that big of a deal. And I think she's wr.

[Bert]

I love it when people make these arguments. And I guarantee if Jeff saw a sex tape of Jessica with somebody else, and if Crash saw a sex tape of Lady Crash with somebody else and they found it, regardless of where they found it, you would be through the roof and divorced by the next time.

[Crash]

I wouldn't be divorced. I would say, hey, why are you watching it? I would just confront it. I wouldn't divorce her. That's in her now. If she was making current sex tapes, yeah, maybe I'd divorce her. But if this is something that happened in her past 10 years ago, five years ago, however long ago.

[Host]

Yeah, but that means it's none of my business.

[Melanie]

But you just said you would confront.

[Host]

She's watching it. I mean, in order to get turned on to have sex with you.

[Crash]

You don't know that.

[Melissa]

She's getting her job.

[Crash]

You don't know that. You don't know that. Maybe she's just watching it just to reminisce.

[Bert]

Crash, you just said that you would confront her, and now you're criticizing Melanie for confronting her boyfriend.

[Crash]

But you're saying you would divorce him and throw his clothes out and everything would be done and over with.

[Bert]

Come on.

[Crash]

I wouldn't do that.

[Melissa]

When Melanie confronted her boyfriend, he turned it around on her and made it her fault for going through his apartment.

[Host]

You guys, she was snooping when I found the list.

[Crash]

Wait a minute.

[Jeff]

Wait a minute.

[Crash]

When I found the list. Remember when Lady Crash had her little list of previous lovers? I found that list and I was furious. I went crazy. I wanted to break up with her. I was so PO'd. It was my fault for going through her crap because that's her personal past, and she had it. I was wrong. She's wrong. I'm sorry.

[Bert]

This woman wasn't snooping. She went in there to decorate his place for his birthday.

[Crash]

Then why not decorate? Why look at the video?

[Bert]

She sat down and turned on the TV and the VCR clicked on because the TiVo had clicked on.

[Crash]

Nothing to do with decorating.

[Jeff]

Hey, Melanie.

[Host]

Hold on.

[Jeff]

She's done decorating.

[Crash]

Get out.

[Host]

Hey, Tracy, you're on a line.

[Bert]

I was waiting on him to get home.

[Melanie]

I was surprising him. I was waiting for him to get home.

[Host]

Hey, Tracy, go ahead.

[Melanie]

I don't even know where to begin. I mean, it's not like she was in there snooping.

[Host]

Oh, my God. I can't believe you guys. She wasn't snooping.

[Bert]

She just said. She said that.

[Melissa]

She's agreeing with us.

[Melanie]

She wasn't snooping. She just sat down and was going to watch tv. And here's this video of. Of him and his ex girlfriend from.

[Host]

Two damn years ago who broke up.

[Bert]

In his VCR today.

[Host]

It doesn't matter. Of course it matters.

[Melissa]

Seinfeld.

[Melanie]

He should be shot.

[Host]

Run.

[Melissa]

That's my advice, Melanie. Run, run, run. Because you know what this reveals?

[Melanie]

Is that what we're calling it now is reminiscing. I didn't know that was the new name for it.

[Michael Checkaway]

Exactly.

[Host]

Go, Jen.

[Melissa]

You know what this reveals is that there's something going on with your boyfriend that you don't know about. There's a secret part of him that you don't know after being with him for two years. Run, run, run.

[Melanie]

That's exactly, exactly what I think. Like, if he had secrets now, obviously he keeps secrets. So that's the part that really worries me.

[Host]

Well, he had the tape in some kind of box, you know, and had forgotten about it. And you found it different, but here it is in the vcr. So he obviously was watching it, right? By himself. Yeah, that's. You have every right to be upset about that.

[Melanie]

Yeah. And it makes me think that every time he has sex with me, he's thinking about her.

[Melissa]

I would think that, too.

[Jeff]

And you know what? Here's something else. Because, you know, one thing women never do, including, except mind their own business, of course. One thing women never do is they never give the benefit of the doubt. And as somebody who now has TiVo, I cannot tell you the last time I used my VCR.

[Host]

So if he sure hasn't been in there for two years, he could have.

[Jeff]

Put it in six. How long ago did he get TiVo?

[Melanie]

He just got TiVo. That's why I didn't even know how to use it.

[Jeff]

So maybe he was just plugging that tape in to see if it worked or not.

[Melissa]

Jeff, you're just.

[Jeff]

Oh, of course.

[Bert]

Grasp women. Oh, clutch.

[Melissa]

And for sure.

[Bert]

Give me a spray.

[Host]

Susan, you're on all the hits. Q100.

[Melanie]

You know, I don't know. I didn't know that VCRs turn on automatically by themselves. To me, no.

[Jeff]

A woman has to turn it on.

[Melanie]

Right? So did she not just say, let's just see what's in the vcr, you know, but besides the fact that how many men watch porn? Probably a whole lot and we don't know about it. My husband, you know, he's gotten a lot better. But if you're in there with a key and you're not supposed to be in there and you see something that bothers you, you are.

[Jeff]

Not in touch.

[Bert]

You are kidding me.

[Host]

I can't believe what I'm hearing. It's not like she stole the key in order to go in his house and snoop around.

[Melanie]

He had no business being in there.

[Bert]

In the first place. You are kidding. You are kidding. This is not just regular porn, honey. This is him having sex at a tape he with an ex girlfriend he's watching today dating this woman.

[Host]

And your argument is invalid because she wasn't going in there snooping. She was going in there decorating for a surprise for his birthday.

[Melanie]

Well, she should talk to him about it. Definitely. And you always, like you said, you're supposed to give benefit of doubt. But if it's gonna bother her, then she needs to move on.

[Bert]

Let me ask you a question. Let me ask you a question now. When you're dating somebody, how long does it take before you exchange keys?

[Melanie]

Well, I married my husband after six months.

[Bert]

Okay, so she's been dating this guy for two years, and you're saying that she stole his key, went in and snooped.

[Melanie]

Keys?

[Jeff]

No, she stole it.

[Melanie]

Maybe there's a reason why he didn't want to exchange.

[Bert]

Exactly. I think this is. I think it's good she discovered this because he's got something to hide.

[Melissa]

And that's the exact same reason why she shouldn't be with him. If he was, like, sneaking around and, like, you know, has all this stuff to hide, then why?

[Crash]

She's not hiding anything. But he's certainly not going to invite her over and have popcorn and watch it. Maybe he just said, hey, oh, wow. Why not?

[Melissa]

He should not be watching if he.

[Jeff]

Does something in the privacy of his own home he doesn't know about.

[Host]

Let's get the relationship expert on the phone. Michael Checkaway, Melissa's nemesis.

[Bert]

There's always a balance in the universe. There's the good and the evil, and I'm the Good. And here's Michael Checkaway.

[Host]

He was on Mr. Personality and he's.

[Michael Checkaway]

How you guys doing?

[Host]

Hey, Checkway. What's going on, man?

[Michael Checkaway]

Oh, not too much. I was driving to work, listening to the conversation because, contrary to popular belief, I do have a job. Let me shed some light on the subject. And what Melanie just said doesn't really change anything because it goes larger than that. I'm going to show you guys the light at the end of the tunnel.

[Host]

Okay, you know what?

[Melissa]

School's in session. Oh, wise one.

[Host]

School's in session. Sensei. Go ahead.

[Jeff]

Yeah, talk to us, Red mask.

[Michael Checkaway]

All right, before I start, I'm gonna have to ask Melissa to stop rolling her eyes.

[Advertiser]

She was.

[Host]

She fully was rolling her eyes.

[Michael Checkaway]

I'd like a little respect here.

[Jeff]

Please.

[Bert]

Show me the way. Check away.

[Michael Checkaway]

Okay, the reason this is not such a big deal. This guy just happened to have a tape, okay. And he got caught with the tape. If he didn't have the tape, he'd be sitting there fantasizing about his ex girlfriend or someone else, not the girl he's with.

[Host]

Disagree. Totally different. Totally different texture.

[Melissa]

Why does it seem creepier, though, that he has a tape of it rather than it just being in his fantasy?

[Michael Checkaway]

In his mind, it only seems creepy because the guy got caught.

[Host]

No, it seems creepy that he's got a video of his ex girlfriend from over two years ago, so he had to seek that thing out, put it in the VCR and sit down and watch. There are other places you can get porn of chicks you don't know.

[Jeff]

Strangers. Stranger porn.

[Michael Checkaway]

Well, but maybe he'd rather watch porn of himself and his ex girlfriend. Maybe that's better for him than.

[Melissa]

I don't know why, but stranger porn seems less creepy.

[Host]

Like an insurrection.

[Melissa]

Yeah, like just getting a DVD or whatever.

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[Host]

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[Melissa]

Exactly.

[Host]

But, you know, an ex girlfriend, then that to me says way more.

[Melissa]

Exactly. That's the difference.

[Michael Checkaway]

Yeah, well, I think it's a little bit more with an ex or something like that. It's more real. It's something you actually live through. So it wasn't a fantasy or. It's a better fantasy than. You're right. Than Jenna Jameson, who you'll never meet, you'll never be with, or Jama Jennison. Right.

[Melanie]

It's really nebulous.

[Melissa]

That's the transvestite one.

[Michael Checkaway]

I just. The point of my thing is I'm backing Jeff on this. I don't think this is and most of the other callers. I don't think this is such a huge deal.

[Bert]

Can I roll my eyes now?

[Jeff]

Yeah.

[Knox]

Okay.

[Host]

We're gonna let you roll, man.

[Michael Checkaway]

Okay, thank you.

[Host]

Dude. Melanie, if you're looking for some direction from our listeners, they didn't give you much to work with here. Cause now it seems like it's pretty split. So I don't know exactly what you do in that situation.

[Jeff]

You think it's bad arguing with a guy like me? Imagine if I was a lawyer because somebody just emailed me who agrees with me and put all these bullet points and then at the end it says, so this is technically inadmissible because it was part of an illegal search. It must be thrown out. Can you imagine having that with your boyfriend and have him say, I'm sorry? I don't even see that it's inadmissible. The court does not recognize that videotape.

[Bert]

Now, Melanie, I think because you are officially broken up still. I mean, is that correct?

[Melanie]

Correct.

[Bert]

I think that Jen has a great point that. Just leave it that way and move on.

[Melissa]

Move on, sweetheart. There's better guys out there without the creepy other side.

[Host]

Hey, Melanie, I'm sorry we couldn't be more help for you.

[Melanie]

No, you guys, thank you so much.

[Host]

All right. Thanks for calling.

[Melanie]

Ok, Bye.

[Host]

Bye.

[Melissa]

What we did learn is that all guys are that creepy.

[Bert]

Thank God I'm a lesbian.

[Host]

You might as well go back and date that guy because we're all creepy.

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