The Bert Show – Vault: She Kissed Her Coworker But She's Married!

Original Air Date: December 10, 2025
Podcast Host: The Bert Show Cast (Burt, Bird, Jen, Jeff, callers, and guest Mandy)

Overview

This episode centers around a listener, Mandy, who calls into The Bert Show seeking advice after kissing a married coworker while away at a company conference. Mandy, herself married, is grappling with guilt, embarrassment, and a desire for closure – primarily, she wonders if the coworker owes her an apology for his actions after the encounter. The episode delves deep into questions of infidelity, boundaries, personal responsibility, marital issues, and the nature of closure after a mistake.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Mandy’s Story: The Confession

• Mandy, married 10 years with a child, attended a work conference. She admits admiring a male colleague from afar.
• A night of drinking led to a flirtatious conversation with him and others, involving explicit discussions about sex.
  Quote:
  • Mandy: “We were just not talking about sex.”
  • Bird: “You were talking about sex?”
  • Mandy: “Yeah.” [03:38]
• The first night, nothing physical happened. The next night, while sober, Mandy and the coworker kissed privately in his room before his roommate interrupted.
• Mandy stopped things from going further, stressing she was sober and “completely knew what I was getting into.” [05:03]
• After the kiss, the coworker avoided Mandy the next day, leaving her feeling foolish and hurt.

2. Why Does Mandy Want an Apology or Closure?

• Mandy isn't considering telling her husband, but feels wounded by her coworker’s coldness after the kiss:
  Mandy: “I wanna call and say, you know, I want an apology.” [07:12]
• The hosts push back, questioning why she expects an apology, noting both were complicit and married.

3. Perspectives from the Hosts

• Personal Responsibility:
  • Burt and Bird stress Mandy is an adult and chose her actions knowingly.
  • Burt: “You’re a grown woman. Come on now.” [08:36]
  • Bird: “You were doing the kissing also.” [08:46]
• Why Seek Apology?
  • The hosts argue Mandy seeks closure with the wrong person and that her issues are with her marriage, not the coworker.
  • Jen: “Drop him like a bad habit and you sit down and have a heart to heart with your husband and let him know what’s going on...there’s trouble in your marriage.” [12:00]
• Flipping the Script:
  • Burt urges Mandy to consider if the roles were reversed and her husband had done the same.
    Burt: “...turn the tables. If your husband came to you and said, well, first of all, she kissed me, but I kissed her for about five minutes and I just need closure on this...” [13:17]

4. Calls from Listeners: Tough Love

• Liz: “This poor woman is absolutely starving for attention...She’s pathetic.” [09:39]
• Todd: “She owes her husband an apology. I mean, she wanted to [commit] adultery first in her heart, and then she went through it with the kissing...” [11:14]
• General consensus from callers: Mandy’s behavior is self-indulgent and she owes an apology to her husband, not the coworker.

5. The Real Issue – The Marriage, Not the Kiss

• The cast emphasizes that Mandy’s behavior reflects unresolved issues in her marriage.
  • Burt: “You’re putting too much importance on this man. It’s feelings about your husband that is bothering you, not feelings about this guy.” [13:05]
• Jen: “If you are getting excited by some random co worker at a convention, you can’t be away from your husband for two days without...kissing somebody else, then there’s issues in your marriage you guys need to uncover. And do it now before it turns into a full-on affair...” [12:00]
• They caution that unless Mandy confronts issues in her marriage, the pattern may repeat.
  • Burt: “Fix the marriage...This will happen again if you don’t fix the marriage.” [13:45]

6. “Affair” or Not? – Debate About Cheating

• The cast discusses whether a single kiss constitutes an affair or just a mistake.
  • Burt: “The whole issue should be the fact I had an affair.” [14:09]
  • Jen: “I think an affair is worse...it’s both horrible. But I think an affair would be much more devastating for a marriage.” [14:53]

Notable Quotes & Moments with Timestamps

• “Is voice disguise wrong? She sounds like an electric guitar.” – Playful start as the hosts set up the segment. [01:34]
• “I need to...but it’s—I don’t know. I can’t get past it.” – Mandy struggling to let go. [07:34]
• “Your question being a new cheater...is there a rule of etiquette? Like, once this occurs, does he owe you an explanation or an apology?” – Jeff highlighting Mandy's real question. [07:38]
• “He was just at a convention. He was gonna get lucky and get lucky.” – Bird, wryly summing up the coworker’s likely perspective. [12:39]
• “Some people would say that she made a grave mistake, but I don’t think—I wouldn’t consider it an affair.” – Jen, defining her view on the boundaries of infidelity. [14:28]

Important Timestamps

• 01:34 – Mandy’s masked call begins (voice disguised)
• 02:07–05:36 – Mandy narrates the incident: the conference, the kiss, aftermath
• 07:12–08:16 – Mandy asks if she deserves an apology, hosts challenge her logic
• 09:37–11:26 – Listener calls weigh in, provide tough love
• 12:00–13:45 – Hosts urge Mandy to focus on her marriage and honesty with her husband
• 14:09–15:06 – Debate over definition of affair vs. mistake

Tone and Style

The episode is classic Bert Show: candid, humorous but direct, with lively banter and real talk. The hosts offer tough love but also empathy for Mandy’s obvious remorse—though they do not sugarcoat their opinions or the consequences of her actions. Listener calls reinforce the blunt style, with little patience for self-pity but a call for self-reflection.

Summary Takeaways

• Mandy’s dilemma is less about her coworker, and more a symptom of unresolved issues in her marriage.
• The show’s advice: “Let it go,” don’t seek more drama with the coworker, and be honest with your husband.
• Infidelity, even if “just” a kiss, is a serious wake-up call; confronting underlying marital dissatisfaction is critical.
• Closure should be sought within oneself and through open communication with one’s partner—not from the other participant in the indiscretion.

For listeners (or the curious), this episode delivers a no-holds-barred exploration of emotional boundaries, accountability, and how moments of weakness can force needed conversations in a relationship.