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Mrs. Claus's Younger Sister
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Zoey
Zoey, this thing weighs a ton.
Grace
Drew Ski, lift with your legs man.
Drew Ski
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Grace
Santa, did you get my letter?
Zoey
He's talking to you britches.
Grace
I'm not.
Mrs. Claus's Younger Sister
Of course he did.
Grace
Right Santa, you know my elf Drew Ski here. He handles the nice list.
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Kimber
Hey, the Birch Show.
Show Host (Grace's Advisor)
All right, Grace, how are you this morning?
Grace
Hi. I'm good. How about you?
Show Host (Grace's Advisor)
All right, so tell us your situation. For what I understand, you're doing pretty well for yourself.
Grace
Yes, I make at least six figures a year, and I'm kind of supporting my fiance right now.
Show Host (Grace's Advisor)
Okay. What do you do for a living? I'm just curious.
Grace
I'm in aesthetics.
Show Host (Grace's Advisor)
In aesthetics, you're a doctor that does boob jobs?
Grace
No, not really. It's the care of the skin, particularly the face. I do microdermabrasion and Botox injections. I work under a plastic surgeon.
Drew Ski
Okay.
Show Host (Grace's Advisor)
I didn't realize y' all made that kind of cash doing that.
Grace
Yes, we do.
Show Host (Grace's Advisor)
Especially in Atlanta, I'm guessing.
Drew Ski
Yeah.
Grace
Yeah.
Show Host (Grace's Advisor)
Okay, so you're making well over six figures. Your fiance. And we're gonna call him, what?
Grace
Tom?
Caller/Advisor
Tom.
Show Host (Grace's Advisor)
All right. Tom makes how much money?
Grace
Oh, well, he's a full time student working at night waiting tables. So.
Not even 20,000 a year, I would say.
Show Host (Grace's Advisor)
Okay, 20,000. Did you say this is a boyfriend or fiance? I'm sorry?
Grace
Fiance.
Show Host (Grace's Advisor)
Fiance, yes. Okay. When did you guys get engaged?
Grace
Just recently, actually, on Valentine's Day.
Drew Ski
Okay.
Show Host (Grace's Advisor)
Okay. And the size of the rock that he gave you?
Grace
Um, it's like a chip, you know, it's tiny. And.
That'S not exactly what I had in mind. I mean, I want to get married, but I was kind of, I don't know, you know how, like, when you open the box, you're supposed to go, oh. You know, I was just like, oh, wow, thank you. Like, I didn't know if it was like a promise ring or. You know what I mean?
Caller/Advisor
Okay, so if he works waiting tables, how long do you think he saved up to purchase that ring for you?
Grace
Um, I mean, probably a while, I suppose. I mean, knowing prices and I didn't go with him, and I don't know, you know, so this is a guy.
Show Host (Grace's Advisor)
That saved his tip money and really kind of gave blood, sweat and tears to get you anything that he could afford.
Grace
Right.
Show Host (Grace's Advisor)
But. Dot, dot, dot.
Grace
But that's not what I want. I mean, I know that sounds. But I want what I want. And, you know, the one I want is, like $15,000, and that's pretty much.
Drew Ski
His entire salary for the year.
Grace
Right.
Show Host (Grace's Advisor)
So what is your suggestion on getting the ring that you really want to get?
Grace
I wouldn't mind, you know, paying for it or offering to be, you know, joint in Payment or, you know, anything like that, but I just kind of want what I want. And he was devastated when he brought.
Caller/Advisor
It up to him. He didn't think it was a good idea.
Grace
Yeah, I mean, I tried not to make it seem like, oh, this is crap and I want what I want, but you know, because he thinks, he thinks that we could chip our tooth and put it, you know, in a wooden band and that's all that matters. And I, you know, I can understand that. But I want what I want. You know, I work hard and I want a beautiful engagement ring. And he's pretty much wounded.
Show Host (Grace's Advisor)
Isn't, Isn't this really like what other people think? It's more about other people than it is you. Because I'm guessing you and your hundred thousand dollar social circle are hanging out with some pretty high rolling people. And these are high rolling people that have these really nice engagement rings or wedding rings with the big rocks that you notice because they shine as soon as you walk into the room. And aren't you just a little nervous to flash that little chip that you have and you're afraid that the impression that you're gonna make on them.
Grace
You know what, it's not so much about other people. It's really just so much about me. I mean, that's why I went to school and make the money that I do. It's not about pleasing them. It's really about being selfish and pleasing myself. I mean, you know what I mean? But then again, you do have a point with me walking in. I'm not gonna be all, okay, check out my ring finger. You know, so I guess that makes sense too.
Caller/Advisor
When you guys were just dating before you got engaged, did you have conversations about your engagement? Did you tell him what kind of ring you like? Did he just spring the engagement on you and surprise you? Or did you guys actually have this conversation?
Grace
It was a total surprise.
Caller/Advisor
So you never had a chance to tell him kind of what type of ring that you were thinking about or what you liked or what you wanted.
Grace
And I think that, you know, men in the world, that's really, it's really important to kind of, you know, talk to your girl about, you know, rings and stuff. It doesn't have to be like, I'm gonna propose and I'm gonna ruin this prize, but you know, girls really do kind of want a say so on that type of thing.
Show Host (Grace's Advisor)
You women confuse the hell out of me. All I hear from women is romance, romance, romance. So I'm picturing, hey, that too.
Hers Representative
We.
Show Host (Grace's Advisor)
No, you don't want that. And I'll tell you why, okay? Because all I'm picturing is your boyfriend going to Fridays or wherever he is working. I mean, busting his ass, taking extra shifts, work until 2 in the morning so he can scrape up enough dollar tips in order to afford you anything he can. Where I'm from, that's romantic. All right, so he ends up getting you a ring that maybe by society standards isn't the biggest ring in the world. But, I mean, he really put a lot of love into it. What woman doesn't want that? And here you are saying, not good enough for me.
Grace
It's true. You know, it's true. I mean, you have a big point. But, I mean, I want what I want. I work hard for what I get and I, you know, lavish myself and him and has nothing to do with romance. I'm very happy. I'll be glad to be his wife. But I want a bigger ring. I personally want a beautiful ring.
Caller/Advisor
I gotta tell you, you know, I can. I can understand where you're coming from as far as, like, getting the ring, being really excited about being engaged but maybe being disappointed by the ring.
Drew Ski
Right.
Caller/Advisor
You know, I know friends that, you know, got like, a pear shape when they really wanted a square cut or, you know, whatever. I mean, I can. I can empathize with being disappointed with the ring, but I don't think you can do anything about it. I think you have to shut up and suck it up and keep it to yourself.
Drew Ski
Well, it is also all about tradition too, because, I mean, traditionally, it's a. It's a certain percentage of a guy's salary. That is how much he spends on the ring. And he got you. You know, because the thing is that also bothers me a little bit is just because somebody doesn't make the amount of money you make doesn't mean that they don't work hard. It seems to me like he's working extra hard by going to school and waiting tables and trying to earn his own living and trying to better himself. So I think it's also disrespectful to say that I work hard and I deserve. Well, he's working hard too. And he got you what he could afford, Right?
Grace
Right. I mean, believe me, that's what I'm calling you guys. I'm not making him feel like a piece of crap by going, oh, God, look at what you did. No, I'm very appreciative of everything that he does and. And that he's.
Drew Ski
Well, I don't think he'd be wounded if. I mean, you mentioned how wounded he was. I don't think he'd be wounded if. If you. You obviously have done that in some way to. To offend him.
Grace
I mentioned it and that. That was enough.
Show Host (Grace's Advisor)
Sure it was.
Grace
You know, and. But I mean, I. You know, so that's why I'm calling you guys. I'm going. I. I want what I want. But then again, what should I do? I'm kind of wanting to know what. What the deal is these days. And it's really not about other people. It's really about what I want.
Show Host (Grace's Advisor)
What exactly are you looking for from us? You're trying to get people to call in that actually understand where you're coming from. Because this is going to be tough.
Grace
I just want to know, hey, am I the only girl out there that, you know, feels this way? I mean, it's impossible.
Show Host (Grace's Advisor)
All right. The good news is we have found some listeners that actually agree with you.
Grace
Oh, really?
Show Host (Grace's Advisor)
Yeah. The bad news is you got to sit through some that don't.
Grace
Okay.
Show Host (Grace's Advisor)
Hey, Lisa, you're on all the hits Q100.
Grace
Hi. I just think that, Grace, maybe this guy is not the one, because you're more of a material girl, and you need to go get one of Carrie's boyfriends that's going to buy you a big ring. I mean, because the ring is not about it. I mean, this poor guy went out and put his heart into the ring, not his money, and got you a ring. And that is what's important. Let me tell you. I got married and I had an engagement ring, and I'm still wearing it. And me and my husband had the best marriage.
Show Host (Grace's Advisor)
Yeah. Maybe the bigger question here is, like, I mean, you're. You are going to be engaged to a guy that obviously is very, very humble.
Grace
Right.
Show Host (Grace's Advisor)
Doesn't sound like he's got any kind of sense of materialism to it at all.
Grace
Grab my water, please. Yeah.
Drew Ski
And.
Show Host (Grace's Advisor)
And you are. You're materialistic. I mean, are you going to be able to sustain a lifelong relationship with a guy that is really kind of the complete opposite from you when it comes to this kind of thing?
Grace
I mean, I kind of thought we knew that about each other. I mean, I have to admit, yeah, I'm a little materialistic, and I'm a lot vain. You know, that's why I do what I do. I mean, I help others and myself, too, but opposites attract. Yeah. I mean, they do. I mean, I love him. Just because he can't afford to Buy me the kind of engagement ring that you know I want doesn't mean I love him any less. That's not the point. The point is I just want the ring that I want.
Drew Ski
Yeah, and I.
Caller/Advisor
And I know that.
Drew Ski
I just think marriage. I mean, the thing is, like, I kind of see where the collar's coming from. Because the foundation for your relationship with Tom is a little shaky as it. Because you may not always be as successful as you are now. You know what I mean? Like marriage, you're going to go through so many ups and downs. And is this the man that you really think you'll be able to do that with? Because I just think right now, the focus of what's going on in your relationship is so superficial.
Show Host (Grace's Advisor)
Hey, Jacob, you're on all the hits, Q and A.
Grace
I think that she. She said that she doesn't, like, she wouldn't love him anymore, but if she really loved him, she would be happy with the ring that he got.
Show Host (Grace's Advisor)
Yeah.
Grace
That just shows that she is materialistic. Like. No, granted, my wife has a 2k ring, but I'm a construction worker. And it doesn't. It doesn't have to be traditional, but my wife was mad that I didn't buy her. I have to carry.
Drew Ski
So she was mad that you bought too much for her?
Grace
No, I think that I didn't buy her enough.
Caller/Advisor
Okay.
Show Host (Grace's Advisor)
You did pretty good, dude.
Caller/Advisor
I'm gonna have to agree. I think this. That in a marriage, the symbol of the ring is what symbolizes your love. It's the ring that is the symbol of that, and it's not the amount of money that it costs.
Grace
How can something. Okay, we're talking about materials here. How can something as material as a ring say, for instance, some people came in a four ring, Right? Tattoos. Hello. And I mean, that's not the issue. It has nothing to do with how much I love Tom or how much he's working hard and striving, and I'm helping him, and he's in.
Caller/Advisor
This conversation shouldn't even be taking place.
Grace
Well, then why is he offended?
Caller/Advisor
Hey, Grace. What is Tom studying to do?
Grace
Tom is studying to be an actor.
Caller/Advisor
Okay.
Kimber
All right.
Show Host (Grace's Advisor)
So chances are pretty good he's going to struggle for a while here.
Drew Ski
Well, Grace, just. And also to answer or to kind of go further with what you said, why is he offended? How did you. How did you let him know how you felt? I mean, how did you get. Because you talk about how the ring has nothing to do with your feelings for him. You know, he worked hard did you say this to him or did you just let him.
Grace
Yeah, it wasn't in the words. And, I mean, I think that if you live with somebody, you pretty much know when somebody is excited or if they're lying. I mean, you know, how many times you go, hey, babe, is there something wrong? And they're like, no. And you know something's wrong.
Drew Ski
Well, he probably thought something was wrong with you when you opened the box, was like, oh, he knew. I mean, for sure he knew. So, I mean, my thing is. You're wondering why he's offended. Well, I don't think that you probably did a good job at letting him know, you know, or express or communicating to him the fact that you. I don't know. I just. I think that you're wondering why. I think there's a miscommunication big time between the two of you.
Show Host (Grace's Advisor)
Hey, April, you're on all the hits Q100.
Grace
Morning, guys.
Show Host (Grace's Advisor)
Good morning.
Grace
Morning. Actually, I wanted to say that I agree with Grace. Thank you. I wouldn't take back the ring or, you know, return it, but maybe she could wear it on her other hand. Yeah. Buy herself a ring. I mean, I'm going to school for.
Show Host (Grace's Advisor)
Come on, now. How offended would you be if you were the guy Wear it on the other hand.
Grace
That is a tough statement there.
Zoey
What?
Show Host (Grace's Advisor)
I don't understand you women. You want romance. And here is a guy that busted his ass.
Drew Ski
24 seconds. Don't put us all in the same category, Jen. And I don't agree with her.
Caller/Advisor
Damn.
Show Host (Grace's Advisor)
Go ahead, Avril.
Drew Ski
I'm sorry. It's not all women, okay?
Grace
I mean, I haven't really found a guy that could. You guys are laughing at me.
I'm going to school to be a medical examiner. And I mean, as far as interrelationship, I've always been the one to pay for mostly everything. And I don't have a problem with that. Right. So, I mean, maybe in the beginning I probably would have, you know, stated, you know, maybe we can go in together with the ring or something like that. But, I mean. I mean, I feel like he kind of took it upon himself to, I mean, kind of put himself in a situation. He knows what I aspire to do or whatever. You know what the thing is, I mean, he just went ahead without me knowing anything, so don't you think that I kind of have a stand on, you know, I just want to tell.
Show Host (Grace's Advisor)
You guys, Jen thinks it's the funniest thing ever. I'm sorry that the suggestion was to wear his Ring on the other hand.
Grace
On the other hand.
Drew Ski
But Grace just said, how dare Tom surprise her with the engagement and take it to himself?
Grace
I didn't say he didn't dare to.
Drew Ski
But you're blaming him. He put himself in this situation is what you said. So I cannot believe that you are offended that he took it upon himself to surprise you with an engagement. That's awful.
Grace
You guys said it was miscommunication, but I feel like that must be miscommunication a little bit, maybe on his part for not communicating anything in the beginning. If we know each other for a year and he thinks we know each other well enough to get married, then I think that he would have known me well enough also to maybe consult me on the ring.
Drew Ski
Why did you say yes?
Show Host (Grace's Advisor)
This thing is doomed, man.
Drew Ski
Yeah, Grace, why did you say yes?
Grace
Because I love him. It has nothing to do with love. The ring has nothing to do with love. Like I said earlier, people don't even, you know, use that as a bond of union anymore. They get tattoos or they, you know, jump over whatever they do. Get married naked.
Caller/Advisor
You want a bigger diamond?
Drew Ski
Yeah.
Show Host (Grace's Advisor)
And I keep hearing, you know, women say that the ring is a symbol of our love. Well, how about the symbol that you're showing him right now? The symbol is, you know, you may love me, but it's just not good enough.
Grace
No, I'm not showing him anything. I'm showing it to you guys. That's why I'm calling Lisa.
Show Host (Grace's Advisor)
You're on all the hits. Q100.
Grace
Hi. Good morning, guys.
Show Host (Grace's Advisor)
Morning.
Grace
I have to say, I support Grace on this one. Thank you. You know, Carrie made it very popular on Sex and the. Wear an engagement ring on your necklace. I think her engagement ring at her wedding.
Drew Ski
That's a television show.
Grace
This will be a piece of jewelry that she wears every day for the rest of her life.
Show Host (Grace's Advisor)
What is the matter with you women? This guy worked 247 bussing tables to get dollar bills to afford what he could, and you're saying either wear it on the other hand or put it around your neck. Hey, why don't you do this? Why don't you melt it and make it into a tooth?
Grace
The bottom line is, if he knows her and he loves her, then he accepts her for who she is.
Drew Ski
Well, how about the other way around? She doesn't accept him for who he is and what he just did.
Grace
That's not true. I accept him 100%, or else he wouldn't be living with me and we wouldn't.
Caller/Advisor
Oh, God, Grace.
Drew Ski
You were so full of yourself. You are sounding like you were so full of yourself because you were saying it's Tom's responsibility to have known this. If he knew we knew each other well enough to get married.
Hers Representative
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Drew Ski
What responsibility are you taking in this?
Grace
I'm taking a lot of responsibility. Most. Most of the financial situation. Most of everything. I mean, I pay the bills and so he's lucky.
Drew Ski
He's lucky to even be in the situation with, you know.
Grace
You know what? I love him. Okay? Regardless. You know, if it were that. If that were the case, I wouldn't be dating him. If that were the situation, I wouldn't even be with him because he is broke. Bottom line.
Caller/Advisor
I think just the same way. The same way you think he should put that ring to one side and get you a better one. He should. To one side and go have an affair.
Show Host (Grace's Advisor)
We gotta move on, Grace.
Grace
All right. Good luck, sweetheart.
Show Host (Grace's Advisor)
All right. Bye.
Grace
Bye, guys.
Caller/Advisor
You know, it's. It's. It's a shame, you know, that I can only reference Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade, when the evil materialistic Germans chose the cup of gold as Christ chalice. And they chose poorly because originally it was made of wood. So, young lady, I hope you learned from that movie and that lesson.
Kimber
Hey.
Grace
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Grace
Ask your dermatologist about cosentics.
Mrs. Claus's Younger Sister
Guys, thanks for helping me carry my Christmas tree.
Zoey
Zoe, this thing weighs a ton.
Grace
Drew, Ski. Lift with your legs, man.
Drew Ski
Santa.
Grace
Santa, did you get my letter?
Zoey
He's talking to you, britches.
Drew Ski
I'm not.
Mrs. Claus's Younger Sister
Of course he did. Right, Santa?
Grace
You know my elf, Drew Ski here? He handles the nice list.
Zoey
An elf? I'm six three.
Grace
What?
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Grace
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Zoey
Nice. My side of the tree is slipping.
Kimber
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Kimber
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Drew Ski
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Date: December 11, 2025
Host: Pionaire Podcasting
This episode of The Bert Show dives into listener drama when Grace, a successful aesthetics practitioner, shares her dilemma: her fiancé proposed with an engagement ring that doesn't match her expectations or lifestyle. She confesses to wanting to replace it herself, sparking a lively and sometimes heated debate among the hosts, callers, and herself about love, tradition, materialism, and communication in relationships.
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Key Quote:
In this spirited episode of The Bert Show, Grace's honest confession sets off a lively debate about love, money, tradition, and self-expression. While some sympathize with her desire for a ring that matches her achievements and aesthetics, others—including hosts and callers—question the depth of her priorities and the stability of her relationship. The conversation highlights the social and emotional complexities behind what seems a simple question: Should you replace your own engagement ring if it's not what you wanted?
The episode maintains The Bert Show’s candid, humorous, and sometimes irreverent tone throughout, providing both laughs and serious relationship food for thought.