Vault: Should She Call It Quits Over Drama With His Ex?

Summary

The Bert Show – “Vault: Should She Call It Quits Over Drama With His Ex?”

Date: December 30, 2025 | Host: Pionaire Podcasting
Summary of the listener segment discussing: Should you break up over ex drama?

---

Main Theme

The central question of this episode is whether a woman should break up with her boyfriend due to drama and threats from his ex (the mother of his child). The Bert Show cast and multiple listeners weigh in on issues of relationship baggage, exes with unresolved emotions, personal boundaries, and the realities of blending families.

---

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Recap of the Situation

• Jeff introduces a real-life scenario:
  • A woman is four months into a relationship with a man who has a baby with his ex.
  • Their co-parenting relationship is strained, exacerbated by past cheating and emotional fallout.
  • On a recent child handoff, the ex asks about his new romantic status, reacts badly once she learns, and threatens to “beat her ass” if she sees the new girlfriend out.
  • New girlfriend feels unsafe and unsure if the threat was a joke.

2. Does the New Girlfriend Stay or Go?

• Jen quickly responds:
  • “Why is she dating a guy who ruined his marriage by cheating on his wife? ... I say get out.” (03:20/03:52)
• Melissa agrees:
  • “If this is how it is after four months, what's it going to be like if she's with this guy forever?” (03:57)
• Both argue that after only four months, it's not worth serious risk, especially if unresolved drama is evident.

3. Does Leaving Make You a Coward?

• Jeff asks, “Does that make you look like a coward?” (03:57)
• Jen and Melissa maintain leaving isn’t cowardly, it’s sensible self-preservation. Melissa adds that enduring this after just a few months suggests worse may come if things progress.

4. Can You Stand Your Ground?

• Jeff asks if Melissa would stand up to the ex’s threats:
  • Melissa: “You can't see—you almost... I can't separate a couple... both people contribute to the drama.” (05:05)
  • Melissa emphasizes, “There are two sides to every story.” (05:23)
  • Both co-hosts suggest that if drama is significant so soon, it's a red flag.

5. Listener Call-ins & Alternative Viewpoints

• Drew Ski says unless she’s “totally in love and wants to be with him the rest of her life, she should get out. Cause it's kind of a scary situation.” (05:48)
• Jeff jokes: “Doesn't it only take about 4 months for you guys to fall completely in love?” Met with laughter.
• Melissa adds: “If I was getting with a woman now, and four months from now her ex girlfriend is going to beat my ass. That's too immature for me.” (06:08)
• Michelle: “She needs to get out because… this girl's always going to be in their life because, you know, they have a child together. There's always going to be some drama.” (06:30)
• Another Michelle: Suspects, “it's pretty obvious that he's still sleeping with the baby's mama. To be so jealous like that, there's got to be something still going on.” (06:47)
• Jen: “Could be.”
• Laura: “If you’re in a situation and it could be on a Jerry Springer show, you’ve got to get out.” (07:29)
• The cast finds this point so apt, they call it worthy of recurring reference.

6. Could the Ex Just Be Jealous?

• Lisa disagrees and shares success:
  • “I've been in the same situation and he's now my husband and we have two kids together... She said the exact same thing and she never did anything — now we get along.” (08:51)
  • Describes eventual acceptance after the ex realized Lisa was in her husband’s life for the long haul.
• Melissa queries: “What happened to make you get along? I'm curious.”
  • Lisa: “[The ex] just eventually just realized that we were going to be together. She… just jealous.” (09:07)
  • Example provided of blending families working out.

7. Does the Drama Always Mean They’re Still Involved?

• Hope: “It wasn’t so much that I still had feelings for him as much as it was the first significant other after a serious breakup. And anytime there’s kids around, people get a little more possessive or territorial.…” (09:56)
• Melissa notes the difference between normal tension and outright threats of violence.
• Hope (10:38): Suggests the man probably “said something to drive her to that point.”

8. Closing Banter

• The show riffs on whether the situation is "immature or white trash" (08:28–08:32), and pokes fun at the idea of proactively fighting exes.
• There’s shared consensus: early-stage relationships with major ex drama aren’t worth it—unless you’re certain the relationship is for keeps.

---

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Jen: “Why is she dating a guy who ruined his marriage by cheating... even if he does see the kid every weekend?” (03:20)
• Jen: “If this is how it is after four months, what's it going to be like... if she's with this guy forever?... Like, I'm thinking four years down the road, she becomes stepmom, and then real mom is this crazy psycho.” (03:57)
• Melissa: “If there is enough tension between them in just a casual... like him dropping a child off to the point that she's gonna threaten physical harm... there’s still passionate emotions going on there.” (04:19)
• Laura (caller): “If you're in a situation and it could be on a Jerry Springer show, you've got to get out.” (07:29)
• Lisa (caller): “I've been in the same situation... now we're—I mean, we get along now.” (08:51)
• Hope (caller): “Anytime there’s kids around, I think people get a little more possessive or territorial as far as what kind of people are going to be around their kids.” (09:56)

---

Highlighted Timestamps

• 01:22–03:52: Recap of the scenario and initial cast reactions.
• 03:56–05:23: Hosts discuss if leaving is justified, address the element of fear and self-respect.
• 05:46–06:42: First round of listener calls supporting the idea of leaving.
• 06:47–07:59: Listeners speculate about possible ongoing relationship between exes and potential “crazy” behavior.
• 08:51–09:46: Lisa’s alternate perspective—co-parenting and blended families can succeed after a rocky start.
• 09:56–11:13: Hope gives insight about protective feelings over children post-breakup and cautions there may be more to the story than the boyfriend is letting on.

---

Overall Tone

Casual, humorous, and direct. The cast doesn’t sugarcoat their viewpoints, drawing from personal and listener experiences, with playful banter throughout. There’s also empathy for those navigating difficult family and relationship dynamics.

---

Takeaway

Consensus: It’s not worth sticking around early in a relationship if unresolved drama or threats from an ex appear—especially when children and heightened emotions are involved. However, there are rare cases where time heals tensions and blended families settle, but those require mutual maturity and respect.

Classic Bert Show advice:

“If you're in a situation and it could be on a Jerry Springer show, you've got to get out.” (Laura, 07:29)

---

For listeners: If you’re only months into a relationship and face active, serious drama from an ex, the advice is clear: think carefully about staying. Early turmoil can be a sign of what’s to come.

Transcript

[Progressive Insurance Announcer]

This episode is brought to you by Progressive Insurance. Do you ever think about switching insurance companies to see if you could save some cash? Progressive makes it easy to see if you could save when you bundle your home and auto policies. Try [e-mail] Progressive Casualty Insurance Company and affiliates. Potential savings will vary. Not available in all states.

[Mrs. Claus' Younger Sister]

Guys, thanks for helping me carry my Christmas tree.

[Zoe]

Zoe, this thing weighs a ton.

[Drew Ski]

Drewski, live with your legs, man.

[Jeff]

Santa.

[Melissa]

Santa, did you get my letter?

[Zoe]

He's talking to you, Bridges.

[Jeff]

I'm not.

[Mrs. Claus' Younger Sister]

Of course he did.

[Jeff]

Right, Santa, my elf Drew Ski here.

[Zoe]

He handles the nice list and elf. I'm six' three. What everyone wants is iPhone 17 and at T mobile you can get it on them. That center stage front camera is amazing for group selfies, right, Mrs. Claus?

[Mrs. Claus' Younger Sister]

I'm Mrs. Claus much younger sister. And AT T mobile there's no trade in needed when you switch. So you can keep your old phone.

[Drew Ski]

Or give it as a gift.

[Mrs. Claus' Younger Sister]

And the best part, you can make the switch to T mobile from your phone in just 15 minutes.

[Zoe]

Guys, my side of the tree is slipping.

[T-Mobile Announcer]

Kimber, the holidays are better. AT T Mobile switch in just 15 minutes and get iPhone 17 on on us with no trade in needed. And now T mobile is available in US cellular stores with 34 monthly bill credits for well qualified customers plus tax and $35 vice connection charge credits and imbalance 2 if you pay off earlier, cancel financing. 256 gigs. $830 eligible for in a new line $100 plus a month plan with auto payments, taxes and fees required. Check out 15 minutes or less per line. Visit t mobile.com.

[Jeff]

The bird show I have a question for Jen and Melissa and actually all the women in the room can answer this. So I have a question for everyone except for Phil.

[Melissa]

If don't feel. Yeah, don't feel excluded or anything.

[Jeff]

Is that what is the proper protocol? Is it like. I guess I'm asking you, is this why you would. Would you break up with a guy over this? Or would you stand your ground? This is a true story. A woman I know is. Has been dating a guy for a few months and he has a baby with another woman. And he's a good dad and he sees his kid like every weekend or whatever. And he normally picks up and drops off the baby with the mother's parent or the mother, the grandparents. Okay, grandparents. But because of, you know, holiday schedules and everything, a week or two ago, when he dropped off the kid, the mother was actually there and they have a pretty. They have an okay relationship, but there's still a lot of, you know, anger. I guess. He. I think he cheated on her and that's why the relationship ended. So he drops off the baby and the mother's there, and they have one of those conversations like, how have you been? I mean, good. How have you been? Good. You know, like, tension. And she asked the question, are you dating anyone? You know, so are you back in a relationship now? And he says, actually, yes, I'm dating. And he tells the person who, you know, says who he's dating, and somehow it's within the realm of acquaintances. So she knows who this girl is. And she goes, oh, that's. Oh, that's real cool. Well, make sure, you know, next time, make sure you tell her that next time I see her out anywhere, I'm gonna beat her ass.

[Jen]

Oh, my gosh. Serious baby mama drama, right?

[Jeff]

So he's like, yeah, whatever. He goes back and then he tells his current girlfriend that story, and he kind of laughs it off. The problem is the current girlfriend doesn't really think she was kidding. Like, thinks this girl is nuts enough to maybe do it.

[Jen]

So I gotta rewind. First of all, why is she dating a guy who ruined his marriage by cheating on his wife? And I don't think that really makes him a good daddy.

[Jeff]

Right.

[Jen]

Even if he does see the kid every weekend.

[Jeff]

And I might be mistaken, I'm assuming, you know, in his defense, I don't know if that's why I know the reason they broke up. It was his call. Like, he decided to break up with this woman, so she's mad at him, and I'm assuming that he did something wrong. Maybe he's just. Maybe she's just nuts. But he broke up. He ended the relationship with her, and they.

[Jen]

And your friend has been dating this guy for just a couple months.

[Jeff]

Like four months now I say get out.

[Melissa]

Yeah, because I don't think.

[Jeff]

Does that make you look like a coward?

[Jen]

No, I don't think that a situation after four months is serious enough to. To, like, worry about risking it. And then the other thing is, if this is how it is after four months, what's it going to be like if she's with this guy forever? Like, I'm thinking four years down the road, she becomes stepmom, and then real mom is this crazy psycho.

[Melissa]

I think that obviously his issues with the ex have not been resolved to. I mean, I'm not saying that you obviously have to be best friends with an ex, but there, you know, are some exes where you Know what? It's just, they let it be. It ha. You know, their relationships in the past. And I think that if there is enough tension between them in just a casual. Like him dropping a child off to the point that she's gonna threaten physical harm or whatever, beat her ass. There's still passionate emotions going on there that if I'm in a casual relationship, thinking about making this go further, I would back out because I don't want that. I don't want that.

[Jeff]

But you of all people, Melissa, like, wouldn't you stand your ground and go, I am not gonna let this woman who I don't even know dictate who I am dating.

[Melissa]

You can't see you almost. I can't separate a couple. Like I. Because I also. Who is being honest in here? I mean, like he. He relayed the story to you, right, Jeff?

[Jeff]

No, the girlfriend did. The girl who.

[Melissa]

But she.

[Jeff]

But she got a.

[Melissa]

She got a description of what happened through him.

[Jeff]

Yeah.

[Melissa]

Two sides to every story. You know, he obviously was like, you know, all I said was, hey, yeah, I'm fine. I'm dating so and so. And she went off you. You know, and that conversations don't happen like that. You know, both people contribute to the drama. And I think that I would. After four, like Jen said, after four months, I think is crucial. And I would be like, I would really consider leaving. Absolutely.

[Jeff]

Hey, Kim.

[Drew Ski]

Hey.

[Jeff]

Hey. Go ahead.

[Drew Ski]

I was just gonna say, unless the girl is totally in love with him and wants to be with her. Rest. Wants to be with him the rest of her life, she should get out of it. Cause it's kind of a scary situation to be in.

[Jen]

Right.

[Jeff]

Aren't all girls. Doesn't it only take about 4 months for you guys to fall completely in love and decide you can't live without the guy?

[Drew Ski]

Yeah, I doubt that.

[Jeff]

Isn't that what it takes? Four months, 120 days, whatever, Jeff.

[Melissa]

And Jeff, I know you said like, you know, I am certainly not afraid to stand my ground. But I think at this part of my life, if I was, in all honesty, if I was getting with a woman now, and four months from now her ex girlfriend is going to beat my ass. That's too immature for me.

[Jeff]

Hey, Michelle.

[Drew Ski]

Hey.

[Jeff]

How are you?

[Jen]

Either immature or white trash? One of the two.

[Jeff]

Go ahead, Michelle.

[Drew Ski]

I really, I totally agree with Jen. She's only in it for four months. She needs to get out because, you know this girl's always going to be in their life because, you know, they have a child together. Yeah, there's always going to be some kind of drama.

[Melissa]

That's true.

[Jeff]

Hold on. Another Michelle weighing in. Thank you for the call, Michelle number two.

[Drew Ski]

Yeah, I think that it's pretty obvious that he's still sleeping with the babies mama. To be so jealous like that. There's got to be something still going on.

[Jen]

Could be.

[Jeff]

Couldn't she just be crazy though?

[Drew Ski]

She could be. But for him to still have contact with her like that, he must like it for some reason.

[Melissa]

Yeah, because is she crazy that sometimes I wonder if that's just some way to, you know what for him, for him to call his ex wife or ex girlfriend or ex wife. I can't remember what you said.

[Jeff]

Ex girlfriend.

[Melissa]

Ex girlfriend. The mother of the child. For him to say, oh, if he said oh, she's just crazy, that would make me question him. Like, come on now, you're not completely innocent in the relationship, you know.

[Jeff]

Hey, Laura.

[Drew Ski]

Yeah. If you're in a situation and it could be on a Jerry Springer show, you've got to get out.

[Jen]

Very good point.

[Drew Ski]

And after four months, I don't think people see clearly enough. They're still in love.

[Jeff]

Save that because that could be word, that's words of advice from Laura. So save that. If you are in a situation that could be on the Jerry Springer show, you need to get out. We can go back to that again and again. Thanks, Laura.

[Melissa]

I want to go back, I want to go back to the caller who thinks that the parents are still sleeping together.

[Jen]

Yeah, I, that's a good point.

[Melissa]

Do you think that, that they may still be in a really some kind of relationship for her to go off like that?

[Jeff]

I don't know. Some women are my, you know, my point of view. Women are nuts.

[Jen]

You don't think that he could still be sleeping with her? You know these people.

[Jeff]

Yeah, he, I don't know him that well. He may or may not, but I think women can just be crazy.

[Jen]

Hey, Chad, with or without the sex.

[Drew Ski]

Hey, Jeff, I agree with you. I believe women are crazy. I say don't be a pushover. Go there and beat her ass first.

[Jeff]

Before she gets to you. Thanks for the call.

[Drew Ski]

Thank you.

[Jeff]

Thanks.

[Melissa]

Now, Jen, was that white trash or immature?

[Jen]

It could be a little bit of both. Anytime anybody uses the P word, I shut down.

[Melissa]

And then I'm going to go beat you right before you beat mine.

[Jeff]

I'll go get you. I'm going to get. I'm going to find you. I'm going to get you. Hey, Lisa.

[Melissa]

But it's okay if you're a Rams fan and a Falcons fan. It's okay, right?

[Jeff]

If you were talking about football, it's okay we let that go and all set. But. Hey Lisa, you're up.

[Drew Ski]

Yeah, I just disagree because I've been in the same situation and he's now my husband and we have two kids together and she said the exact same thing and she never did anything and matter of fact, now we're. I mean, we get along now.

[Melissa]

What happened to make you get along? I'm curious.

[Drew Ski]

I mean it took a while but I mean she just eventually just realized that we were going to be together. She. The girl's obviously just jealous and because my husband left her too and. And now we're married and we have two kids together and been married for a while.

[Jeff]

So you say they get along. Does he have a kid with her or something?

[Drew Ski]

Yeah, he has a kid with her and now he's my stepson and he lives with us Monday through Friday and goes over there on the weekends and she is perfectly fine with it. I mean we took him to his open house for school together. I mean, it's okay now.

[Jeff]

You know, the rule on the bird show is unless they have a kid together, no friends with the exes. Unless you're filter Anna.

[Drew Ski]

I mean, I wouldn't say we're buddy buddy that we go out all the time, but I mean, we can have a decent conversation without arguing.

[Melissa]

Right?

[Jeff]

Thanks for the call.

[Drew Ski]

Okay.

[Jeff]

Alright, last call from Hope.

[Drew Ski]

Hey, I had a comment in regards to the fact that the parents might still be sleeping together. I don't think that's the case. I was in a similar situation. My ex husband started dating someone and it wasn't so much that I still had feelings for him as much as it was that it was the first significant other after a serious breakup. And anytime there's kids around, I think people get a little more possessive or territorial as far as what kind of people are going to be around their kids.

[Melissa]

Well, I agree. I think that there is, you know, a different set of tension when your ex starts a new relationship with somebody else. But I mean, this person actually said she would seek out and be, you know, physically harm somebody.

[Drew Ski]

Right. Well, being in a similar situation, and I'm not bashing men here or anything, but I believe that he said something to drive her to that point. Do you see what I'm saying?

[Jeff]

Oh yeah. Melissa or James said that.

[Melissa]

I said that. Yeah. Nobody goes off like that, so to speak, without. It takes two to have a conversation like that, you know, And I just I think the way he conveyed it was. Yeah, all I said was this. And she just all said went crazy, you know. And you know. Yeah. He said or appeared to feel something, you know.

[Jen]

Right.

[Jeff]

Definitely poked her with the stick. Just sitting there, just bugging her like this.

[Melissa]

Like you do with us.

[Jeff]

Right? Yeah. From time to time. The Burt show.

[Progressive Insurance Announcer]

This episode is brought to you by Progressive Insurance. Do you ever think about switching insurance companies to see if you could save some cash? Progressive makes it easy to see if you could save when you bundle your home and auto policies. Try [e-mail] Progressive Casualty Insurance Company and affiliates. Potential savings will vary. Not available in all states.

[Mrs. Claus' Younger Sister]

Guys, thanks for helping me carry my Christmas tree.

[Zoe]

Zoe, this thing weighs a ton.

[Drew Ski]

Drew Ski, live with your legs, man.

[Jeff]

Santa.

[Melissa]

Santa, did you get my letter?

[Zoe]

He's talking to you, Bridges. I'm not.

[Mrs. Claus' Younger Sister]

Of course he did.

[Melissa]

Right.

[Drew Ski]

Santa, you know my elf Drew Ski here. He handles the nice list.

[Zoe]

And elf. I'm six' three. What everyone wants is iPhone 17 and at T Mobile. You can get it on them. That center stage front camera is amazing for group selfies. Right, Mrs. Claus?

[Mrs. Claus' Younger Sister]

I'm Mrs. Claus much younger sister and AT T Mobile there's no trade in needed when you switch so you can.

[Jeff]

Keep your old phone or give it as a gift.

[Mrs. Claus' Younger Sister]

And the best part, you can make the switch to T Mobile from your phone in just 15 minutes.

[Zoe]

Nice. My side of the tree is slipping.

[Jeff]

Kimber.

[T-Mobile Announcer]

The holidays are better. AT T Mobile switch in just 15 minutes and get iPhone 17 on us with no trade in needed. And now T Mobile is available in US cellular stores with 24 monthly bill credits for well qualified customers plus tax and $35 device connection charge credits and imbalance due to payout for earlier cancel financing agreement. 256 gigs $830 eligible Horton and New Line $100 plus a month plan with auto payments, taxes, fees required. Check out 15 minutes or less per line.

[Progressive Insurance Announcer]

Visit t mobile.com now is your time to get into a new Dr. Horton home by taking advantage of its national red tag sales event this Friday, January 2nd through Sunday, January 25th. Stop by any of its participating communities and find select red tag homes at incredible pricing. So whether you're buying your first home or looking for an upgrade, you don't want to miss the red tag sales event starting this Friday. Discover the Dr. Horton Difference. Tap your screen now or visit drhorton.com Dr. Horton America's Builder and equal housing opportunity builder.