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Jeff
The Bird.
Host Burt
Show early this morning, Jeff was telling us that he and his wife Jessica got in a little bit of a scub last night.
Jeff
Wasn't even a fight. It was. It was a temper tantrum by me. Like, I'll take, I'll take the blame for it. I was just having a bad night in the kitchen.
Host Burt
But it was. But you said it was brought on by her total lack of respect and irresponsibility.
Jeff
It wasn't lack of respect. It wasn't irresponsibility. I'm completely, I'm convinced. And you'll see all these surveys from time to time and you know, Melissa will put them in her news. The number one cause of fights between couples this year is money or cleaning the house or sex or, you know, any. There's a half dozen. You probably make a very short list of the five or six things that couples fight about. And communication will be on there. But I think that's communication. Like, oh, one person doesn't talk enough or too much or whatever. And I think if there was a law that required everyone to say, to pause just two seconds before they said what they had to say, fights would be cut by 2/3, if not more. Because what too often happens is Jessica and I will Find ourselves not fighting about a particular issue, but. But fighting about the fact that we're fighting the way one of us talk to another. And the perfect example happened last night when I was making. I made homemade pizza dough and homemade sauce. And I was all excited to make a homemade pizza. And I went to the bottom of the stairs. Jessica was upstairs. And I yelled up, do we have a pizza pan? Because I remember seeing one. Just like a tin thing. I remember seeing one, but I couldn't find anywhere in the kitchen. And she says, no, we don't have one. That was somebody's that we had borrowed. And then I made this statement, and this is referring to something Jessica did earlier this year. I wish you hadn't thrown out our pizza stone. Referring to a pizza stone that my parents gave us for Christmas, like, five years ago. That, to me, was perfectly seasoned. It was dark, it had burn spots on it. It was perfect. Jessica just thought it was gross. She thought it was too dirty, and we didn't use it enough. And it was taking up space in her cabinet. So she's like, I'm going to throw it out. We battled over it for a week, and then finally we didn't talk about it for a few days. And she used that opportunity to toss it out. So I said to her from the bottom of the stairs, I wish you didn't throw out that pizza stone or you shouldn't have thrown out that pizza stone or something. The response that would have sent me into the other room with nothing else to say would be if she had said, I didn't think we'd use it anymore, or, sorry we hadn't used it in six months, or anything along that line, because then acknowledgement of the problem solution. But what does she come back with? Don't blame me for your unpreparedness.
Host Burt
And that right there, that was it.
Jessica
See, I'm looking at him like, okay, first you're frustrated because you can't get your pizza right, and you're blaming her for the problem.
Jeff
But where did I blame her? That's the point.
Jessica
When you said, you shouldn't have. Yeah, you shouldn't have. Everything would be fine if you hadn't thrown the thing out.
Jeff
But that's not blaming. That's like saying, but I'm thinking in her mind.
Jessica
She's thinking, how did I get involved in this?
Host Burt
So just those two words right there. You shouldn't anything after that. You're already gonna have the defense. The walls are up.
Jessica
I'm not in the process of helping him fix the pizza. But somehow I'm to blame for the problem.
Jeff
It would be like if Jen got up after this break and took all of her stuff that's sitting in front of her and took it back to her desk. Because the show's gonna end in 45 minutes. She doesn't have any more entertainment buzz. If she's done, she puts it back there. And then in a few minutes, I say, do you have a highlighter? And she says, don't blame me.
Jen
Cause you're not prepared, right?
Jeff
And she goes, no, I just took it to my desk. And then I say, oh, you shouldn't have taken it to your desk yet. I was gonna highlight this article for you. Then her response is, sorry about, like, why do you. Like, I'm blaming her for not having a highlighter.
Jessica
But the difference is, comparatively, it would be if she had taken the high to her office six months ago and then you needed a highlighter. Now, like in what you're saying with Jessica, she threw this out earlier this year. So I just. I mean, I. Again, I just think even if you told Jen, well, you shouldn't have taken the highlighter out because I needed it. Even though it was Jen's highlighter.
Host Burt
Either way, it's the two words there. You shouldn't. Is that what set her off?
Paige Desorbo
Right.
Host Burt
So here's what we would like to do here, and you guys can get in on this. 404-741-1005 not necessarily two words, but there are. There are some sentences, just one sentence that will always get you in a fight with your boyfriend, girlfriend, husband, wife. And if you know what those sentences are before you get into the argument, you can avoid using those. And things are going to be much better.
Jen
See, I think we have two of them here. You shouldn't have. Fill in the blank here. We'll definitely start an argument. Or don't blame me because you're not prepared.
Jeff
Those are true.
Host Burt
Right there.
Jen
That's another phrase that would definitely send you into an argument.
Host Burt
You're going to get into an argument. Let me give you a stereotypical sentence that without a doubt, if you're a man, will get you in a fight with your wife every time. You're just like your mother.
Jen
Oh, yes.
Host Burt
All right. That's one you want to avoid for sure.
Jessica
Absolutely.
Host Burt
If you want to stay away from a fight. Okay, so if you guys have these 404-741-1005 as a public service, we'll help each other out in our relationships here.
Jeff
I've got two words for you, it doesn't even have to be a full sentence. Can be any sentence that starts with these two words. What, you never?
Host Burt
Yeah.
Jen
Yes, the word never.
Jessica
See, I have on my list. Because if you're a collector of grudges is what I. Cause I will admit I'm a bad fighter. And the bad thing is, like, if you are failing at your fight, people naturally will take out old bullets from an old gun and try to shoot it again. So if it's you never, meaning we're encompassing everything we've ever done together or. That's typical, you know. Oh, well, that's typical, you know, like if somebody does something wrong and then you have to. Well, what do you mean that's typical? Well, remember, and then you're bringing up, like, the fight should only encompass what's going on at that moment in time. But I don't know if anybody's really good at allowing it just to be at that day and time.
Host Burt
One sentence. Phrases that will always, without a doubt, get you in a fight.
Jen
A common one that happens in my house is because my husband loses everything. So he says, where's my. Fill in the blank here? And I could count like 400 of those every day. Where's my keys? Where's my shoes?
Jeff
But here's the communication.
Jen
Wait, wait a minute. Here's the line that gets us into the fight is my response of when.
Host Burt
He says, where are my keys?
Jen
Why is that my job?
Host Burt
Oh, okay.
Jessica
What? What?
Host Burt
Why is that my job?
Jen
Okay, so that's the one that happens in my.
Jeff
Let me give you.
Jen
Why should I know? Why is that my job?
Jeff
Let me give you a proper response, because for some reason, that drives Jessica nuts, too. How long have you been in with Ryan?
Jen
Why is that my responsibility to know where your freaking keys are?
Jeff
He just wants an ally. We're just frustrated.
Host Burt
I'll tell you why. That argument right there happens all the time in our house. Because my wife loves to go ahead and move my stuff just because she thinks it's more convenient for me over here.
Jeff
Yes.
Host Burt
All right, so when I ask her, where are my keys? Chances are pretty good she's moved them nine times.
Jessica
Let me follow up with that. Hold on, Jeff. One thing, though. If you say, but you know what can fix that? Is if a guy says, have you seen my keys? If you just change the tone of it a little bit. So it's not Jen's job, it's just, hey, by the way, if you talk about needing an ally. Hey, by the way, Jen, have you seen my Keys. I have seemed to lost them. And then your wife is more likely to help you look for them rather than, where are my keys? Keeper of my things.
Jeff
This is a true story. And this is almost like Jen getting on the soapbox last week for when she threw her tantrum for whatever your tantrum is for. But like you said, how Stacy will move stuff, you know, around your house and then blame you for it when you can't find it. Swear to God. True story. Thanksgiving night, we went over to friend's house, lot of wine was drunk, come back to our house, and Jessica decides to make something on the stove using one of our Calphalon pots that you cannot put in the dishwasher. So she made it, rinsed it out, and left it in the sink, then left it in the sink for five days, giving me grief every single day because I didn't clean my pot that I used to cook something. Both of us were buzzed enough that we forgot she's the one who cooked something. So finally she throws a tantrum, pulls it out of the sink, violently scrubbing it with the brush going, I don't understand why I have to. What did you make anyways? And I was sitting at my computer, and I all of a sudden, like a light bulb turned on, I turned around and said, you made gravy. I feel better now.
Jessica
Look, you just want to finish.
Host Burt
He just wants to win. Good morning, Mark. You're on the Burt Show.
Caller
Hey, good morning.
Host Burt
Hi.
Caller
What about when you start the sentence, I can't help it if you.
Host Burt
Because it puts the blame right back on you.
Jessica
Where's my keys?
Jen
I can't help it if you lose them all the time.
Host Burt
Good morning, Beth. You are on the Burt Show. The sentence that will always get you in a fight.
Jeff
Oh, it's.
Caller
You are such a guy.
Host Burt
That one wouldn't bother me that much. Why would that be offensive?
Caller
Stupid guy stuff, though.
Jen
But it's a compliment to Burt.
Jessica
But if you said, you're such a woman, if you say you're such a woman, though, I don't think that women would take that too well.
Host Burt
You're being such a woman.
Jessica
Yeah.
Host Burt
Why are you being such a woman about it?
Jeff
I found that a lot of times that if you are fighting with someone and you say a woman, and you say you must be menstruating, that's really.
Jen
Yeah.
Host Burt
That really smooths the tip that a.
Jeff
Lot of times smooth things over. Cause then you're showing sex sympathy because you know that once a month they just be. Satan takes over. So you're just showing sympathy to their plight.
Jen
Do you have permission to throw something at him now?
Jessica
Jeff is just.
Host Burt
You don't need permission for that.
Jessica
Jeff is just channeling. He's channeling every bit of his anger out on us.
Jeff
But I think that you're obviously menstruating anytime. Must be that time of month.
Jessica
Anytime friends of mine are in a new relationship, like, I always wait until their first argument. Because to me, the real test of a relationship is not the lovey, lovey. I'm in love. We're a honeymoon. That's because I really do think that as a couple, and I have friends that criticize me for saying this, but you have to fight well as well as get along well, because you're gonna fight. And your relationship. If you fight well, then you will be able to maintain a relationship. But if you were the type that just.
Host Burt
The curses.
Jessica
Yeah. This abusive, then your relationship's not gonna work.
Host Burt
Good morning, Kristen. You're on the Burt Show.
Jeff
Hi.
Caller
Before, when you said the phrase, you're just like your mother. I know, at least for my boyfriend and I, when he. The worst thing he can say to me is, you're just like my mother.
Host Burt
And when he's referring to his own mother.
Jessica
Yes. Yeah.
Caller
Because chances are pretty good when he says, you remind me of my mother.
Host Burt
Yeah. He's spending a lot of time complaining about his mom. Yeah. That makes perfect sense. That makes perfect sense.
Jeff
All right.
Host Burt
Thank you.
Caller
Thank you.
Host Burt
404-741-1005 what are you guys looking at each other like that for?
Jessica
Well, the first thought that came to my mind is, but usually a guy is like, he wants to be mothered by you, and then he turns around and says, use it against you.
Host Burt
Yeah, See, there'. There's a fine line here between mothering and controlling. And I don't know that any woman knows what that line is.
Jeff
I've also found that sometimes when you're talking with a woman just covering your ears and going, why are you always making noise? That also really kind of breaks the tension in the room and takes it to a different level.
Host Burt
Good morning, Karen.
Paige Desorbo
Hi.
Caller
I really hate when people start off a conversation saying, first of all, that just puts me on the defensive because.
Host Burt
You'Re gonna know there's two or three other things coming that are gonna hit you right between the eyes.
Jessica
There's the list. That's a list coming.
Jeff
I would throw that at people and then just never follow up with anything. First of all, I got to tell you, I don't like your Attitude.
Jessica
You're just a beard. Jessica is so lucky.
Host Burt
Good morning, Catherine. You're on the Burt showing all the hits. Q100.
Caller
Yeah, I got one that drives me crazy. Every time when anything bad happens, it's always. That figures.
Host Burt
That figures.
Jessica
That's typical. That figures.
Host Burt
Same thing.
Jessica
Yeah.
Host Burt
And again, that's bringing in past fight.
Jessica
I mean, because. Yeah, yeah. And I. I've been guilty of this, where I've been in a relationship in which it's just like those old wounds never seem to heal. So in six months later, you can bring something that happened six months ago and then just can't. I mean, it's. If with the right person, I'm not. But with other people, I have been. Where?
Jen
Bring out the trunk, let me open up everything. You're done.
Jessica
Wrong.
Host Burt
I can't even imagine in your world, you know, with two women, how you guys remember every small detail. Yeah. Bringing out that trunk. On both sides, arguments must last four and a half hours.
Jessica
Yes. And they never end. And it's not always typical because, like I said, I just haven't been with the right partner. But I think that with two women, you're more than likely. Because if they start something on me, then, I mean, I'm a female, too, and I can turn it right back on you about all the things you've done, and that's not healthy.
Host Burt
Good morning.
Jeff
That's what they should do over to those. Like those Fallujah and all those places in Iraq where they're trying to root people out, is just send over a bunch of lesbians to argue. Just put them in the same room and they'll start running.
Jessica
You're ridiculous.
Host Burt
Good morning, Tony.
Jessica
You're such a homophobe.
Caller
Hi. If the two words grow up, they cause a bit of insanity.
Host Burt
So if a woman says grow up to you. See, Jeff thinks that that is like a slam dunk.
Jeff
Well, it depends on the situation. Like, if I'm trying to be legitimate, then no. But if I've done something practical, jokey.
Jen
And I get to grow up, if you say. If you say I'm not ready for kids and she gives you a grow up, then you're mad.
Jeff
Yeah.
Host Burt
This one is a classic. Good morning, Mandy.
Caller
Hey. The worst thing is when they say, why don't you just relax?
Host Burt
Yeah. I am guilty, guilty, guilty of that. Because it totally diminishes the emotion of the other person that you're having the argument with.
Jeff
Totally.
Host Burt
Oh, yeah. Urinating.
Jessica
You're right.
Host Burt
I just don't understand why you're so upset about something like something so small drives my life crazy.
Jessica
I think two words that are worse than relax is calm down. Oh, yeah, Calm down to me is worse than relax. Yeah. Why don't you just calm down first? Oh, you should shut up.
Jeff
How about, I've never realized how smart you really aren't.
Jen
Yeah, I haven't ever used that one. What is wrong with you?
Host Burt
Do you realize you've just stopped the show five straight times?
Jessica
Grow up, Jeff.
Jeff
Oh, you relax.
Host Burt
Hey, Leslie, you're on all the hits. Q100.
Caller
Good morning.
Jeff
How are you?
Jessica
Good, good. They're starting to fight in here. I don't know.
Caller
My husband always tells me when we're fight, it's always about you.
Host Burt
It's always about you. Again, Melissa's thing, you bring it in the past in the now.
Jen
But it's also the belittling tone that. That is too. That's belittling. Oh, it's always about you, isn't it?
Host Burt
How about this? How about when you're in an argument and someone says, okay, you're always right. Yes, give up. You're always right. I'm wrong. You're always right.
Jen
And you're like, no, keep fighting with me.
Jessica
I think that's where that old phrase, you know, don't go to bed mad. You know, when grandparents or parents have said. Said that is because, like, if you. If you start a fight, you need to end it right there because, yes, it is dangerous to bring in. I would love. Yeah, I can't do that. I can't. It's hard for. I've never been able to successfully do it. But the best way to fight is to get it over with and then be done with it. But I think the worst fights are the ones where Jeff, well, six months ago, you shouldn't have thrown out that.
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Jeff
I wasn't blaming her.
Host Burt
I love the couples that have, you know, in theory say, you know what? Makeup sex is always the best sex. You know, you have a big old fight, you guys make up, you guys realize how important the relationship is, and then you have great sex. I have never been able to do that because after a fight, I stay mad for the next 24 hours. Even if we resolve it, it's cool. I'm cool, you're cool. I need 24 hours to cool, to cool down, and I'm total chick. Morning. All the hits Q100.
Jeff
Hey.
Host Burt
Hey, what's up?
Caller
Bird show.
Host Burt
What's going on?
Caller
This is the one that always gets my wife in our house when I say common sense should tell you.
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Caller
She'S like, why are you questioning my intelligence?
Host Burt
Yeah.
Caller
And she goes slam off.
Host Burt
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Caller
Yeah, and you wonder why I drink.
Jeff
Yeah, that would cause a fight in anyone's house. But Crash and Lady Crash.
Host Burt
Right?
Jessica
Right.
Jeff
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Santa, did you get my letter?
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Episode Date: December 29, 2025
Podcast by: Pionaire Podcasting
Cast: Bert (Host), Jeff, Jessica, Jen, and callers
Theme: Identification and discussion of phrases that are most likely to start arguments in romantic relationships.
This episode of The Bert Show explores the “danger phrases” and conversational landmines in relationships—those sentences or words that are almost guaranteed to start arguments between couples. Through real-life anecdotes, listener calls, and playful banter, the cast highlights common triggers and offers insight into why these expressions are so inflammatory. The tone bounces between lighthearted and reflective, keeping the conversation engaging and relatable.
Jeff: “If there was a law that required everyone to pause just two seconds before they said what they had to say, fights would be cut by 2/3, if not more.” (03:05)
Jessica: “First you’re frustrated because you can’t get your pizza right, and you’re blaming her for the problem.” (04:06)
Host Burt: “You’re just like your mother.” (06:09)
A. “I can’t help it if you…”
Caller: “What about when you start the sentence, ‘I can’t help it if you…’?”
B. “You are such a guy/woman.”
Caller: “‘You are such a guy.’” (10:22)
The cast jokes about the reverse—how saying “you’re such a woman,” or “you must be menstruating,” heightens tension, with tongue-in-cheek commentary.
C. Bringing Up the Past
Jessica: “If you just change the tone a little bit…your wife is more likely to help you look for them rather than, ‘where are my keys? Keeper of my things.’” (08:31)
Jen: “Bring out the trunk, let me open up everything. You’re done.” (13:40)
Jessica: “You have to fight well as well as get along well, because you’re gonna fight… If you fight well, then you will be able to maintain a relationship.”
This episode is a hilarious, insightful spotlight on the unspoken rules of relationship battles—one that will have listeners self-checking their own go-to phrases the next time tempers flare.