Vault: Who Have You Banned From Seeing Your Kids?

Summary

The Bert Show: "Vault: Who Have You Banned From Seeing Your Kids?" (December 23, 2025)

Main Theme / Purpose

In this episode, the cast of The Bert Show dives into the emotionally-charged topic of setting boundaries around who can or cannot be around their children post-divorce or breakup. Prompted by a story involving Pamela Anderson, the hosts invite listeners to call in with their own experiences of banning certain individuals from their kids' lives and explore the various moral, ethical, and emotional dilemmas that arise.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

The Pamela Anderson Situation (01:02)

• Overview: Pamela Anderson reportedly banned her ex, Tommy Lee, from bringing his new girlfriend—a former adult film star—around their children.
  • Host Commentary: The hosts point out the apparent contradiction, noting Pamela’s own history with Playboy. "I can pose nude in Playboy, but there's a whole different story if you're doing those movies." (Host 2, 01:15)
• Prompt to Listeners: The show throws out the question: Have you ever banned someone from seeing your kids, and why? What crossed the line?

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Caller Stories

1. Theresa—The Hooters Waitress Situation (01:56)

• Story: After divorcing, Theresa's ex-husband starts dating an 18-year-old Hooters waitress (he's mid-30s). He brings their young kids (ages 4 and 6) to bikini contests and makes them wait at tanning salons.
  • "[He] would take the kids to her hot body contest... leave them in the waiting room at the tanning salon so they can go tan. It was so bad." (Theresa, 01:59–02:25)
  • The children thought she was 21, catching her in a lie on a job application for a bikini contest.
  • Relationship ended when the girlfriend left to work at a strip club.
• Host Reactions:
  • "Winner, winner, winner, winner." (Radio Host 3, 02:47)
  • "I'm just picturing him taking your kids by the hand to the wet T-shirt contest." (Radio Host 3, 03:24)
  • Emphasizing the absurdity and poor judgment: "He just thought there was absolutely nothing wrong with it." (Theresa, 03:30)

2. Sarah (Voice Disguised)—Concerns over a Gay Partner (03:58)

• Story: Sarah’s ex-husband is openly gay and brings boyfriends around their two small children (ages 5 and 8), causing confusion and “so many questions.”
  • "I don't have a problem with gay people... but my husband is gay and I do have a problem with him bringing his male friend around our children for the simple fact that that has given them—it has totally confused them." (Sarah, 03:59)
  • She would be comfortable with this only when the kids are "14 or 15."
• Host Response: Recognizes the complexity and challenges of explaining non-traditional relationships to young kids.
  • "That's a tough age to explain." (Radio Host 3, 04:30)

3. Kim—The “Provocative” New Partner (05:08)

• Story: Kim’s ex-husband dates a divorce attorney known for dressing provocatively, making her children uncomfortable (two boys, 8 and 9; one girl, 14). The daughter reports embarrassment due to the clothes (nose ring, midriff tops, no bra).
  • "She dresses very provocatively around my three children… my 14-year-old girl would tell me that she gets embarrassed in public." (Kim, 05:14)
  • Kim tries to draw the line but acknowledges nothing is illegal.
  • "It's maybe not the best judgment, but it's not against the law." (Kim, 06:19)
• Host Insights: Highlights how custody and relationship boundaries are a legal gray area.

4. Laura—The “Other Woman” Banned for Racial Reasons (06:45)

• Story: Laura, a white woman, is married to a Black man whose ex-wife is Black. After they married, the ex-wife banned their child from visiting, citing race and “moral” grounds.
  • "The reason he's not allowed to be around his child is my husband is black and I'm white... When we got married, he was served with papers stating the child was no longer allowed to come over." (Laura, 06:48)
  • The ex-wife reportedly said, "I do not want my children around white women." (Laura, 07:33)
• Host Response: Surprised by the reasons, drawing parallels with earlier stories about confusion and prejudice.
  • "Those things, I wouldn't even, I've never thought that that would be one of the calls that we would have gotten." (Radio Host 3, 08:13)
  • Hosts discuss how deeply-rooted prejudices emerge when situations are close to home.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Parental Standards:
  • "How crappy do you feel if you were the woman that Pamela Anderson is deciding?" (Radio Host 3, 01:31)
• Regarding Moral Lines:
  • "Can you not just see her for four days a month and spend time with the kids?" (Theresa, 03:00)
  • "You know, my son's learning...this is a perfect kind of girl to go out with because she's hot...my daughter's learning how to put on the Hooters pantyhose and stuff." (Theresa, 03:00)
• On Complexity of Family Dynamics:
  • "It's complicated, man. They're so complicated." (Radio Host 3, 06:37)
  • "People do things out of spite and don't do things for the best interest of their children." (Laura, 07:57)
• Personal Story—Host’s Experience with Prejudice:
  • "I really want you to think seriously about continuing to do that because if you get married and have children, you will change my bloodline forever." (Radio Host 3, referencing his mother's reaction to his interracial relationship, 09:08)
  • "But when it comes to your own backyard, I guess it's a totally different thing." (Radio Host 3, 09:12)

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Important Segments & Timestamps

• Pamela Anderson Topic & Show Prompt: 01:02–01:56
• Theresa’s Call (Hooters/Bikini Contests): 01:56–03:41
• Sarah’s Call (Ex-Husband’s Male Partners): 03:58–05:05
• Kim’s Call (Provocative Divorce Attorney): 05:08–06:37
• Laura’s Call (Racial Reasons for Banning): 06:45–08:12
• Host’s Personal Story about Family Prejudice: 08:43–09:23

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Tone & Style

Energetic, conversational, and often humorous—though the subject matter is sensitive, the hosts maintain a blend of empathy, surprise, and occasional sarcasm. They invite candid listener participation and aren’t afraid to poke fun at the absurd or call out hypocrisy.

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Summary Takeaways

• Post-divorce boundaries around children are rarely cut and dried—often laced with moral judgment, double standards, and prejudice.
• Callers reflect a spectrum: from concern for what children are exposed to, to outright acts of spite and discrimination.
• Even the most progressive people can have surprising reactions when issues feel personal.
• The stories highlight how legal, social, and emotional factors often clash in the modern family landscape.

The episode is a candid, sometimes uncomfortable look into the private negotiations divorced and blended families face—and the deeply human (and sometimes flawed) reasons behind their choices.

Transcript

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[Radio Host 3]

The Bird Show Pamela Anderson up on her soapbox these these days, her ex Tommy Lee is just dating a woman that she totally considers to be a total skank.

[Radio Host 2]

Yeah, she says that this woman cannot go anywhere near her kids because she's an adult film star. And so that's where Pam Anderson draws the line around her kids. She's like, no way I can pose nude and Playboy. But there's a whole different story if you're doing those movies.

[Radio Host 3]

Right? So she has banned Tommy Lee from bringing around his current girlfriend around their kids. So I'm asking you guys, has this ever happened to y' all before? Also, if you've been married and divorced and your husband or your wife is dating somebody so offensive that you demand that they keep that person away from your kids, what did that person do? How cra. Yeah, how crappy do you feel if you were the woman that Pamela Anderson is deciding? Hey Theresa.

[Caller]

Hi.

[Radio Host 3]

Hi.

[Caller]

Yeah, my ex husband, after we were divorced, he started dating an 18 year old girl that worked at Hooters. And Hooters I guess isn't so bad. She was, he was 35 or 34 and she was 18 and we had a four and six year old child at the time and he would only get the kids every other weekend and instead of spending time with the kids, he would take the kids to her hot body contest and her oh no.

[Radio Host 3]

Come on, are you kidding me?

[Caller]

And you know, then there was you know, he would pick the kids up for the week and have to rush over to pick her up to get her to the tanning salon and leave them in the waiting room at the tanning salon so they can go tan. And it was so bad. And she was. And apparently the kids were under the impression that she was 21 because they caught her lying on one of her applications entering a bikini contest one time.

[Radio Host 3]

Winner, winner, winner, winner.

[Caller]

They finally broke up when she. She left him to move to Athens to be working in a strip club.

[Radio Host 3]

And that was the final straw right there, huh?

[Caller]

Yeah, I just, I was like, I just, you know, you only get the kids four days a month. Can you not just see her for four days a month and spend time with the kids? You know, and I am spending time with the kids, but they like her and they have a lot of fun with her. I'm like, oh, yeah, they're getting lots of good tips. You know, my son's learning, you know, that, you know, this is a perfect kind of girl to go out with because she's hot, you know, and my daughter's learning, you know, how to put on, you know, the Hooters pantyhose and stuff.

[Radio Host 3]

Oh, God, I'm just picturing him taking her, your kids, by the hand to the wet T shirt contest.

[Radio Host 2]

Oh.

[Caller]

I mean, he just thought there was absolutely nothing wrong with it.

[Radio Host 2]

He just, you know, teaching them lessons like you have to look both ways before you cross the street. And on his way to Mako's.

[Radio Host 1]

You.

[Radio Host 3]

Know, make sure when you're on the Mako's swing, you hold on with both hands. You won't wear rubber soled shoes in the wet T shirt contest so you don't slip. Going to need the voice disguiser for this one. That's always a good sign for us. Good morning. We are going to call you Sarah.

[Caller]

Hey.

I'm actually calling in because my ex husband, we have a five year old and an eight year old and I don't have a problem with gay people or homosexuals, but my husband is gay and I do have a problem with him bringing his male friend around our children for the simple fact that that has given them. It has totally confused them. They have asked so many questions and it's absolutely made me very mad.

[Radio Host 3]

Boy, that's gotta be complicated. That's complicated right there. W How old are your kids?

[Caller]

Five and eight.

[Radio Host 3]

That's a tough. That's a tough age to explain.

[Radio Host 2]

Yeah.

[Caller]

They're all the time asking, well, why, why does that kiss on his guy friend and I mean all these things. And I told him, I was like, you know, that is your personal preference, but please don't bring that around our children. You're confusing them at an early age if there's not enough confusion in the world.

[Radio Host 3]

So at what age will it be okay, do you think, for you to give your ex husband the green light to bring his boyfriends around 14, 15 years old? 14 or 15, that is complicated. I mean to a child. They will never understand that, you know.

[Caller]

No, they definitely won't.

[Radio Host 3]

Wow. Okay. Thank you for calling.

[Caller]

Uh huh.

[Radio Host 3]

And good morning Kim. You're on all the hits Q100. Where's the guys right now?

[Caller]

No, hi, this is Kim.

[Radio Host 3]

Hey Kim.

[Caller]

Yes, I have an ex husband of recent who's been dating a divorce attorney for quite a while who's helped mastermind the great divorce. And not only. Oh, he was, it was just a perfect divorce. They said it was legal but immoral. But it was absolutely perfect. He had a lot of help. But not to say much about that. She dresses very provocatively around my three children. I have two boys and a girl. Eight and nine are the boys. And a 14 year old girl who would tell me that she gets embarrassed in public because she's having her breasted nose and no bra and the midriff top and wears really hot short pants and I'm sure I don't want the boys to be at this age, you know, all have that in their face all the time. And again, like the previous caller, he only sees them maybe three or four times a month and then they have to go to her house and see this. So he just can't spend three or four days a month at his condo, you know, so it's, it's messy and.

[Radio Host 2]

Did you draw the line in the sand? Say no more. With her around, you know what?

[Caller]

I want to do that and I say that to him and children that I don't. They like that. But she's a divorce attorney and everything's legal. You can't, it's nothing unlawful about what she's, about what she's wearing in front of my kids. It's just maybe not the best judgment, but it's not against the law.

[Radio Host 3]

So she knows the rules and she won't pay attention to them because she knows they're not the law. Right. These things are complicated, man. They're so complicated. Good morning, Laura. You'll be the last call. Good morning.

[Caller]

Hey Bert, how are you?

[Radio Host 3]

Good. And how are you today?

[Caller]

I'm doing good I'm calling. I'm actually the other woman that is not allowed to be that my husband is not allowed to see his child because of. But this is a kind of a different reason. No, I don't wear the short skirt or the short skirts. I don't really have the body for all that. But the reason he's not allowed to be around his child is my husband is black and I'm white. His ex wife is black. And when we were dating, everything was just all fine. But when we got married, he was served with papers stating that he, the child was no longer allowed to come over to our home. So I'm actually the other woman.

[Radio Host 3]

Why are you so sure that it's the black white thing?

[Caller]

Because she said so.

[Radio Host 3]

Oh, really?

[Caller]

She said that's a dear sign? Yes.

[Radio Host 3]

She said, I do not want my children around white women.

[Caller]

She said that because actually, because what we were doing is morally wrong and because of the race thing. Because it was morally wrong that people have their beliefs.

[Radio Host 2]

You know, I mean, because to me it's the same as the caller with the gay husband. I mean, it's just like they think it's confusing for the child to see something different than what they've been used to.

[Caller]

Exactly. What the sad thing is, it's not, it's, you know, my husband is the one that misses out, but it's not a child that misses out because, you know, I mean, people do things out of spite and don't do things for the best interest of their children. Now me and my husband had children. I couldn't imagine keeping them from their dad for something as stupid as that.

[Radio Host 3]

Yeah.

[Radio Host 2]

Wow.

[Radio Host 3]

Those things, I wouldn't even, I've never thought that that would be one of the calls that we would have gotten.

[Radio Host 2]

And we talk about, you know, wanting to stop prejudice and want people to accept everybody. Well, I mean, you're not teaching the child to accept everybody.

[Radio Host 3]

Yeah. Isn't it, isn't it different when the whole situation is you? Right.

[Radio Host 2]

It's like people have these ideas, you know, ideologies. Oh, the world can be perfect, but the reason the world's not perfect is because when it's in, like Bert said, your own backyard, you have a totally different reaction to things.

[Radio Host 3]

I've relayed this story to you guys before. I think that before I met Stacy, right before I met Stacy, I was dating a black woman. And my mom is this Upper west side, totally liberal woman. I mean, just so open minded about everything. And I told her that I was dating a black woman and she said. I really want you to think seriously about continuing to do that because if you get married and have children, you will change my bloodline forever.

[Radio Host 2]

But she's like this huge New York liberal, totally, totally.

[Radio Host 3]

But when it comes to your own backyard, I guess it's a totally different thing.

[Radio Host 2]

You know, those core things you were taught emerge fast when you feel threatened.

[Radio Host 3]

For some reason, it shocked me. It shocked me.

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