Vault: Why Do Women Fake The Big O?

Summary

The Bert Show — Vault: Why Do Women Fake The Big O?

Podcast: The Bert Show
Host: Pionaire Podcasting
Episode Date: January 7, 2026

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Episode Overview

This episode dives into the nuanced and oft-humorous territory of women faking orgasms in heterosexual relationships. Prompted by global statistics on female orgasm frequency, the cast and listeners unpack societal expectations, communication barriers, and personal anecdotes to explore why women fake it, how long some have done so, and whether (or when) honesty emerges in relationships about sexual satisfaction.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Global Orgasm Statistics & Initial Reactions

(01:35 – 05:05)

• Chris introduces the topic after reading a survey about women's orgasm experiences in various countries. Notably, the frequency of women reporting orgasm "every time" during intercourse is far lower than most men assume.
• Examples from survey:
  • Brazil: 22% always, 35% almost always
  • Canada: 14% always, 37% almost always
  • China: 11% always, 21% almost always
  • Italy: 29% always
  • Japan: 8% always
  • US: 17% always, 31% almost always
• Chris (03:44): “I am just arrogant enough to think that I am engaged in a relationship where my wife is completely satisfied 100% of the time.”
• The cast jokes about male egos and the widespread assumption among men that their partners are always satisfied.

2. Framing the Central Question

(05:10 – 06:36)

• Chris asks listeners: How long have you been in a relationship and gone without having a real orgasm, but still felt compelled to fake it?
• Fiona reframes: “How long have [people in long-term relationships] gone without a real orgasm, and how many times have they faked it?”

3. Causes & Communication Challenges

(06:37 – 09:00)

• Fiona highlights the importance of women knowing and being comfortable with their own bodies.
• Emily and Fiona note that in new relationships, women are more likely to fake orgasms due to insecurity, unfamiliarity, and the desire to protect fragile male egos.
  • Emily (07:26): “In the beginning of a relationship with a man, you have to be gentle if you want that relationship to continue.”
• The conversation acknowledges mutual insecurity in the bedroom, though women must often navigate the “massive ego” component.

4. Listener Stories – "Faking It" Experiences

(09:19 – 15:40)

Melody’s Story

• Melody (09:23 – 10:08): “I was in a relationship for two years... I probably had to fake it, like, every single time... I only had an orgasm maybe four times.”
  • On why she faked: “It would have hurt his ego if he knew I was faking it. So I had to kind of tone it down, not let him know.”

Heather’s Story

• Heather (10:36 – 12:09): Dated from age 16 to 20, faked it every time over four years.
  • Only later, with a new husband, did she truly experience satisfaction.

Maria’s Story

• Maria (12:26 – 14:35): Married 15 years.
  • “In the beginning... no faking, no nothing. And right now, I mean, faking 99.9% of the time.”
  • Attributed decline to kids, unresolved issues, resentment, and mental exhaustion.
  • “There’s no Viagra for women, they said...I’m willing to try something because it’s really frustrating.”
• Both hosts and Maria agree faking it only perpetuates unsatisfying sex, but honesty often leads to resentment or discouragement.

5. Why Faking Continues & Responsibility in Relationships

(14:36 – 16:50)

• Fiona: Both parties share responsibility; women need to feel comfortable speaking up, and men need to be open and patient.
• Chris: “If she’s faking it and faking it, we’re looking at her, she’s having this great time. Then I’m going to continue to do what I did last time.”
• Maria responds that when she does speak up, her partner is discouraged, leading to more issues.

6. Emotional Factors & Societal Pressures

(16:51 – 20:54)

• Emily explains the impact of cultural shame:
  • “For a long time we’re told in our lives that sex is bad... then all of a sudden you’re supposed to be free as can be in the bedroom... I just don’t think women make that transition so quickly.”
• The cast suggests lingering emotional issues or resentment can block physical pleasure, regardless of technique.
• Recommendations for seeking sex therapy or couples counseling are discussed if unresolved issues loom large.

7. The Male Perspective & The Question of Faking

(17:41 – 19:25)

• Chris and Mike discuss whether men can always tell the difference and how honesty would be preferable.
  • Mike (17:45): “I think it’s personally an honesty issue. Couples need to let each other know...either it’s going to happen, or it’s not.”
• From a male perspective, most claim they’d “rather not have sex at all than have bad sex.”

8. Gendered Messaging About Sexuality

(19:49 – 20:54)

• Emily notes the cultural double standards regarding sexuality and how these impact women’s comfort in expressing needs or desires compared to men.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Chris (03:44): “I am just arrogant enough to think that I am engaged in a relationship where my wife is completely satisfied 100% of the time.”
• Fiona (05:05): “That’s a threat to national security right there.”
• Melody (09:48): “I faked it every time. Academy Award winner, Academy Award winner.”
• Maria (12:41): “In the beginning was much better. No faking, no nothing...and right now, I mean, faking 99.9% of the time.”
• Fiona (13:30): “Women need to be mentally in the zone for it to happen. And if it’s not going to happen, a woman knows. She knows it’s not gonna happen.”
• Chris (15:18): “If she’s faking it and faking it, we’re looking at her...she’s having this great time. Then I’m going to continue to do what I did last time.”
• Emily (19:49): “For a long time we’re told in our lives that sex is bad...then all of a sudden you get married...and you’re supposed to be this wild sexual being.”
• Mike (17:45): “I think it’s personally an honesty issue...”

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Timestamps by Segment

• 01:35 — Launch of topic; international orgasm survey results
• 03:44 — Chris on male denial and relationship satisfaction assumptions
• 05:10 — Framing the listener question about faking orgasms in long-term relationships
• 06:36 — Discussion on women’s comfort with their bodies and honesty
• 07:26 — Why faking happens more often at the start of relationships
• 09:23 — Melody: Two years, almost always faked
• 10:36 — Heather: Four years, always faked
• 12:26 — Maria: 15 years, increasing faking over time
• 14:36 — Hosts dissect responsibility and communication pitfalls
• 16:50 — Therapy and relationship coaching suggested
• 17:41 — Mike: Honesty and collaboration in the bedroom
• 19:49 — Emily: Societal messages and the challenge for women

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Summary Takeaways

• Most men overestimate their female partner’s sexual satisfaction.
• Faking orgasms is common, especially at the start of relationships or when emotional/mental barriers exist.
• Mutual insecurity, egos, and communication problems are barriers to genuine intimacy.
• Sustained dishonesty perpetuates “bad sex” and erodes satisfaction on both sides.
• Society shapes views: Women must overcome years of negative messaging to feel sexually liberated and honest.
• Both partners have a role: Women must be comfortable expressing needs, while men must be receptive and patient.

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Episode Tone: Open, self-deprecating, at times cheeky and irreverent, yet rooted in authentic listener experiences and genuine yearning for improved honesty and connection in relationships.

Transcript

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[Chris]

Listen, it's the Vert Show. So this is on the heels of the last conversation we had about women and your orgasm and all that stuff. And we had women calling up saying that they've been faking it quite a bit. You know, we didn't get into specific numbers at that point, but I read a survey this morning that maybe I was just feeling insecure or whatever, but my mind started reeling and I'm not even exactly sure how to phrase the question. So you'll have to help me out with this, but the survey that I read this morning was that the percentage of women who report having an orgasm during sexual intercourse in different countries. Okay, in Brazil, women responded that they have orgasms Every time 22% of the time. So like, let's say one out of five. One out of five. Okay. Almost every time they responded. 35%. So one in three. Right. In Canada, every time, 14% have one. Every time. Almost every time. 37%. In China, every time. 11%. 11%. Almost every time. 21%.

[Derek]

Now we interview Pat O' Brien's girlfriend.

[Chris]

Just his voice alone is enough to make you.

[Derek]

I'm at 100%. I don't know about you guys, but I'm done.

[Chris]

Now, in Italy, as compared to the rest of the world, the women there are pretty satisfied. They say they have orgasms Every time, 29% of the time. So one out of every three. Right. So now my mind is starting to race a little bit thinking about my own situation. In Japan, every time, only 8%. 8%.

[Derek]

So if you're a guy here in America, what you want to do is find a woman who just moved here from Japan. For sure you can triple her numbers, no problem.

[Chris]

South Africa, every time, 19%. In England, every time, 16%. Now here's the one. In the United States, women are having orgasms Every time. 17%. 17%. Almost every time. 31%.

[Emily]

No more economics in high school. Now I know what we need to start teaching the boys, right?

[Chris]

Serious. What a bummer. Okay. Now I am just arrogant enough to think that I am engaged in a relationship where my wife is completely satisfied 100% of the time.

[Fiona]

Of course.

[Chris]

Okay. That's the blinder that I wear. That's the blinder that I want to wear. Here's what I want to ask women. Help me with the phrasing of this. I want to know how long you have engaged in a sexual relationship and gone without having the orgasm, but have had to fake it.

[Derek]

Stacy's on the hotline.

[Chris]

Oh, no. This is a bad time.

[Emily]

She's gonna brag about you in the bedroom, isn't she?

[Chris]

But you know what? Here's where I won't believe what she's saying. Cause she's only gonna say good things. And I love you for that, honey. I love you for that. This is Stacy.

[Derek]

I think so.

[Chris]

Stacey.

[Guest Callers]

Yes.

[Chris]

Yes. Cool. I was hoping it was you and not one of those chicks from Venezuela.

[Derek]

From the whorehouse.

[Chris]

From the whorehouse in Venezuela. What's up, honey?

[Guest Callers]

I'm not saying anything. And you better tread lightly, buddy.

[Chris]

Yeah, I'm going to. I'm going to. Because I'm not allowed to talk about our sex life.

[Emily]

I want to hear this.

[Chris]

No, no. The point that I'm trying to make, I think every married guy wants to believe that his wife is 100% satisfied. That's just what we want to believe.

[Derek]

Not if you're treading lightly. You're not going to be.

[Chris]

Statistics here are showing us, though, only women are having the big o only 17% of the time. That's.

[Fiona]

That's a shame. That's. That's. That's a threat to national security right there.

[Chris]

So what I want to hear from. I want to hear from the women that have been engaged in like, marriages maybe 20 years, where their husband thinks that they're satisfied every time, but they really haven't had an orgasm in like 20 years.

[Fiona]

So what you're asking for is people in long term relationships.

[Chris]

Yes.

[Fiona]

How long have they gone without a real orgasm?

[Chris]

Right.

[Fiona]

And. And maybe how many times have they faked it in that time?

[Chris]

Yes, that's what I think. I'm asking because I was starting to get all insecure this morning.

[Derek]

I'm just curious as to why Stacy was calling.

[Chris]

Yeah, what's up?

[Guest Callers]

I was just asking you to be a little careful. But I also wanted to know. I didn't know if you wanted me to call. Cause you were talking about it?

[Chris]

No, because in this case, you wouldn't have a lot of credibility with me. Even though you're the person I'm sleeping with. I know you would only say good things on the radio. So you're not going to tell me? Look, you're really not as good in bed as you think you are.

[Derek]

Besides, we got Pilar from Costa Rica on the phone.

[Chris]

She's not laughing. She's not laughing. All right, honey, I'll talk to you later.

[Guest Callers]

Okay, Bye. Bye.

[Chris]

Did I phrase that well?

[Fiona]

I think so. Yeah. I just. It's such a shame, though. It's a shame. And it's not just, you know, it's a joke that, you know, teach guys what to do, but it's also teach women not to be so restricted about their own bodies because a lot of, you know, like, I'm pretty comfortable with my body. I know my body well enough. And, and there are times it's just not going to happen. But I'm honest with the person I'm with, that it's not going to happen. You know what I'm saying? So I'm confident enough to be able to say, you know what? It's not. Yeah, it's not going to work. I'm not in the right mindset.

[Derek]

Lately, you've only been with yourself, so I'm wondering what that conversation goes like. All right, Melissa, come on.

[Chris]

You can do Better than that.

[Fiona]

Yeah, yeah, whatever. Okay. No, I'm 100% satisfied in that situation.

[Chris]

Are you sure? Because statistics are showing me your mind.

[Emily]

Exactly.

[Fiona]

But I think, you know, so. Yeah, I think it's just there's. There's so many factors that go into that. I think it's a shame that, that even. I don't know. 17%.

[Chris]

That's what I'm saying. Like every man, I think every married guy, or if you're in a long term relationship with a woman, to me, the theory is that the sex is supposed to get better and better. So you want to believe, as a man that when she is appearing to be having a great time, appearing to be having an orgasm, you want to believe that's true. But the statistic says it's only 17% of the time.

[Emily]

Well, and I think I agree with you, though. Like, in the beginning of relationships, I think that women would probably fake it a lot.

[Chris]

Okay.

[Emily]

And the reason I think so is because the longer you're in a relationship, the more comfortable you become with that other person, the more comfortable you are to be honest about what you're feeling, what you're not feeling, or whatever. But in the beginning of relationship, not only are you kind of uncomfortable, and there's like a little bit of an awkward fumbling aroundness going on, there's also like the ego going on. And men have got huge egos. And you have, like, in the beginning of a relationship with a man, you have to be gentle if you want that relationship to continue. I mean, if you guys went to the bedroom with somebody the first time and they're like, yeah, you know what? You're doing this wrong. You're doing that wrong. You're doing this wrong. You guys wouldn't want to be with them again so that you guys have these massive egos that we have to handle with kid gloves for a while until we're in the relationship long enough that we can be honest with you and then start getting satisfied until it.

[Derek]

Gets to the point where you're comfortable asking them to wear women's panties and do river dance in the corner of the room, because that's really what turns you on. Oh, Nobody else.

[Chris]

I know you're lying because I would defy you right now to do a.

[Fiona]

River dance or to put on a pair of tights.

[Chris]

This goes the other way too. Women are just as insecure in the bedroom as guys are.

[Fiona]

Yeah, everybody is.

[Emily]

I would say everybody is. But you guys have got the massive ego to deal with.

[Chris]

Yeah, but see, for Women, it's more of a head game. So, same situation. If a guy tells a woman she's terrible in bed the first time, forget it, she is gone. She's gonna overanalyze, overanalyze, and then it's become more stressful and stressful every time you guys try.

[Emily]

And so you almost need to fake it in the beginning.

[Chris]

So, Melissa, once again, what is the question that I'm asking because I'm too stupid to phrase it myself.

[Fiona]

No. Well, the question is like, if you're in a long term relationship, only because I agree with Jen, you know, that you'll fake it with somebody new. But in a long term relationship, what is the longest you've gone without a natural orgasm? And out of curiosity, how many times within that dry spell have you had to fake it?

[Chris]

So to speak, Chris is going to be depressing. Hello, Melody?

[Guest Callers]

Yes.

[Chris]

Good morning.

[Guest Callers]

Good morning. I was in a relationship for two years and out of the two years I probably had to fake it. Like every single time we done it. I only had an orgasm like maybe four times. So I was faking the big O a lot.

[Chris]

Now if we had that ex boyfriend on the phone and we asked him how many times you had an orgasm in that two years, how many times would he say?

[Guest Callers]

Every time. So you figure, I'm an expert.

[Chris]

You faked it every time?

[Guest Callers]

I faked it every time. Academy Award winner, Academy Award winner. I had to fake it. I left him because, you know, I stayed with him because I loved him, but the sex was awful.

[Derek]

But then how can you not like. So if you're faking it every time, the four times and it really does happen, how come you're not like singing opera and grabbing onto the curtains like a kid?

[Guest Callers]

Because I didn't want him to know I was faking it. It would have, you know, it would have hurt his ego if he knew I was faking it. So I had to kind of, you know, tone it down, not let him know.

[Fiona]

Oh, see, now, you know, everybody's for personal causes and being activists and something. I think I found a new cause, you know, because I think it's, it is a shame that she's going in a two year relationship and faking her orgasm every time, every time. That's awful.

[Emily]

At least she's out of it now.

[Fiona]

She should have been out of it a long time ago.

[Chris]

Hey, Heather?

[Guest Callers]

Yes. Hi.

[Chris]

Hi. Can you turn your radio down?

[Guest Callers]

Yeah, actually it's off.

[Chris]

Okay, thank you. Go ahead.

[Guest Callers]

Yeah, I was in a relationship for almost four years. We were Engaged and everything, and I had to fake it every time.

[Emily]

You never had the big O?

[Guest Callers]

Never. Not with him, Never.

[Chris]

So, like, if you wanted to have the big O, then, I mean, wouldn't you tell him different things to do to make it better for you?

[Guest Callers]

I tried and it still didn't work.

[Emily]

Now how old? Who's laughing?

[Chris]

She's going to women.

[Fiona]

Yeah. Who else is laughing?

[Guest Callers]

Oh, that's my sister in law. She's over here.

[Fiona]

Is that your sister in law? Did you marry this guy?

[Guest Callers]

No, actually, I'm married to another man now. And he. He does it all right. I have no problems with him.

[Derek]

He does it all right. You're saying that in front of his sister.

[Guest Callers]

Huh?

[Derek]

You're saying that in front of his sister?

[Guest Callers]

Yeah, but that's okay.

[Chris]

Ew. Now she knows you guys are having sex.

[Guest Callers]

Oh, we have a kid, so. Of course.

[Mike]

And that.

[Derek]

It's all right.

[Guest Callers]

It's all right.

[Chris]

So four years. You faked it every single time?

[Guest Callers]

Every time? Yes, sir.

[Emily]

How old were you during that relationship, if you don't mind me asking?

[Guest Callers]

Let's see. I was 18. Actually, I was 16 when I started dating him. And I was almost 20 when we split up.

[Chris]

Okay, that makes sense to me. A little more sense then. At 16, I mean.

[Emily]

Yeah, I don't really know how your body works. Yeah, I don't think you really know what you want.

[Chris]

And I don't even think you know how to fake it right. At 16. Do you even know how to fake it right at 16?

[Derek]

May not even put.

[Chris]

Because they haven't had enough of them yet to know.

[Guest Callers]

I guess I faked it. Right. He never had no questions.

[Chris]

How old was he?

[Guest Callers]

Oh, God, he was three years older than I was.

[Fiona]

All right, but it's obviously not. Yeah, but it's obviously not just a teenage thing, though, you know, like.

[Emily]

But I do agree that obviously, yeah.

[Fiona]

But yeah, there's faking going on in teenage years, too.

[Chris]

Maria?

[Guest Callers]

Yes.

[Chris]

Good morning.

[Guest Callers]

Hey, how are you?

[Chris]

Good. How are you doing?

[Guest Callers]

Good. I've been married for 15 years now. Well, together. Fifteen years, you know. But I'm married with him. And definitely the beginning was much better. No faking, no nothing. And right now, I mean, faking 99.9% of the time.

[Fiona]

Why? What's the difference?

[Guest Callers]

It's horrible. It's horrible.

[Fiona]

What's the difference? What's the change?

[Guest Callers]

I think that, you know, kids take a lot of stuff out of you and probably issues that never, you know, clear up and all that stuff. So at least for my Part, I think it's resentment and all that kind of stuff that, you know, they don't get you really in the mood.

[Chris]

So it's not a physical thing for you. I mean, you have the capacity.

[Guest Callers]

I hope not. I mean, I keep asking my doctor and they keep saying that it's, you know, well, you have kids and all that. So I don't know. I mean, there's no Viagra for women, they said. But, you know, I'm willing to try something because it's really frustrating.

[Fiona]

See, I'm wondering. I mean, apart from the kids, and I don't know anything about the biological changes of children, but, you know, she said unresolved issues and that kind of thing. Sometimes I think the reason a lot of times that it doesn't work for women, and we've said this over and over again, is women need to be mentally in the zone for it to happen. And if it's not going to happen, a woman knows. She knows it's not gonna happen. There's nothing.

[Guest Callers]

And if you said no, I mean, they start getting angry because you don't want to do it anymore and this and that. But, you know, or it takes forever, you know, to you for you to get there and all that. So it's, you know, I'm tired. So, you know, let's do it right away and then let's go to sleep.

[Chris]

I mean, Maria, let me ask you this, though, but. And how many years are we talking about you faking it now?

[Guest Callers]

He's at Wilkes. We dated for two years kind of thing. And then. And then we got married. And probably, I don't know, like, 10. I should say 10 years.

[Chris]

I don't know.

[Mike]

It's horrible.

[Guest Callers]

And if he listens to me, I mean, he's gonna divorce me.

[Chris]

Let me ask you this, though. By faking it, though, aren't you contributing to the bad sex?

[Guest Callers]

Like, of course.

[Chris]

Are you telling him to do things differently?

[Guest Callers]

I tried, but, you know, it's also the ego. It's big. So if I. If I. Sometimes I'm kind of. And I don't do anything. And he asked me, you know, did you feel anything? I said, no, but it's okay. And all that. I mean, I don't think he cares too much anymore. I don't know. I don't know.

[Fiona]

I mean, I think that's. I think both parties have to take responsibility. I so think women need to speak up and be comfortable with their bodies. But guys have to understand, like she said, sometimes he's too tired to wait until she has hers. Like guys, a lot of guys aren't patient enough to understand and that, you know, that women are not the same as men and women are stimulation, but.

[Chris]

Your women are contributing to it. Because if she's faking it and faking and faking it, we're looking at her, she's having this great time. Then I'm going to continue to do what I did last.

[Fiona]

But she said that she would say stuff to him and she even said in her conversation that he would say he's too tired, you know, or he's impatient with, you know, her and that kind of thing. And so, I mean, you know, she, she spoke up. And I do agree women need to speak up.

[Guest Callers]

Maria, if you, if, if you speak up a lot, I mean, sometimes, I mean, they get. He gets very discouraged. So I mean, he's not doing it right and this and that and, and you know, some other problems begin. So sometimes we don't want to do. We don't want to say anything. So let's not start a new fight, you know, on the top of the other ones that we have or the other issues that, you know, that we don't agree with.

[Emily]

So they have all those, you know, sex coaches and counselors and all that, you know, Dr. Phil for the bedroom type of people that can, can help couples that have been married for a long time. Cause it sounds like if they want help, if it's emotional issues and unresolved things, it sounds like, you know, it's something that you need to get through there first and then maybe have some more coaching in the bedroom. Because if you feel, if you feel love for someone and you feel passionate for someone, you can figure it, the rest of it can figure itself out in the bedroom. And you're gonna be willing to take the time to do for. But I think if you're, you know, if you're not emotionally connecting, if you're not on the same page, I think that's where it stems from. Because if she is irritated with him all the time, if she's annoyed with him, she's angry with him, there is no way in the world she's going to be able to have an orgasm. There just won't.

[Fiona]

But then I think also on the other side, the guy has to listen to the suggestions that the woman makes. Like, he can't get, like discouraged. He can't get his ego bruised. You know, I mean, both parties are responsible.

[Chris]

Here's the thing I don't get from the guys point of view. Like, if you've been with a woman long enough. I don't understand how we can't know the real ones from the fake ones. It seems to me like you should.

[Fiona]

Be paying enough attention, know your woman well enough, right?

[Chris]

Like, I mean, I know that there are times when Stacy's not into it. She's just taking one for the team. I know that. I totally do. And she's trying her best. You know, those times aren't fun for me. But you know what? I'm gonna get through that. But, guys, I would think you'd be able to tell better. But in every single one of these cases, when we ask women, how many times would your husband think that you orgasm? They say 100% of the time. Good morning, Mike.

[Mike]

Yes.

[Chris]

Hey.

[Mike]

How you doing today?

[Chris]

Oh, just discouraged, bro.

[Mike]

Oh, don't worry about it. Listen, I think it's personally an honesty issue. And couples, when you're doing that, you need to let each other know either, hey, it's going to happen, or it's not going to happen. And, hey, I can take rejection because there's been times where I hadn't been able to finish up, you know, so it's working together. And you know what? What's wrong with a little manual stimulation there during the process? Doesn't that seem to help? And why can't women, you know, do. Maybe I got lucky and married a freak, you know, but it seems like every time we're there and if we don't, you know, maybe too much to drink and it's just not going to happen. And it's not going to happen, you know, you chalk it up to experience and move on. But I just. I think women sometimes aren't comfortable with themselves. And maybe you're either scared of it or. Because it seems like to me, if you could get it, why don't you get it?

[Derek]

You know what I mean?

[Chris]

From a guy's perspective, would you rather have. And women listen to this answer, Would you rather have a woman say to you, look, I would. I'm just beat. It's nothing to do with you. I'm. Let's just. Let's just forget this tonight. We'll try it again tomorrow, or would you rather go through the motions and just let you do your business?

[Mike]

Well, you know, both. How's that? Because, you know, she can say that and say, well, it's just gonna happen. And then, you know, okay, then I do my thing. But then, you know, I also want that, you know, for her to be honest and say, if she doesn't want to then, then of course, let's go ahead and stop. And you know, if you're spent, your abs are hurting, your legs are cramping and everything else, you know, I understand. Okay. We're just, you know, you know, trying to chop down a tree with a baseball bat. It's not gonna happen.

[Chris]

So, you know, another sports analogy always goes back to that. For guys, I would rather not have it at all than just have a bad.

[Derek]

You know, that, by the way, is my technique, chopping down a tree with a baseball bat. So I'm upset that he used that.

[Emily]

As a. Ew, dude.

[Chris]

All right, one more and then we are actually. She already hung up, so you want.

[Derek]

To come to my on deck circle? That's how you get chicks.

[Chris]

That's Jessica's one lucky lady, I think that.

[Mike]

Bat her up.

[Emily]

There is something I wanted to say really quickly, before we get off the topic, is that I think it's harder for women to turn. Turn it around. We've talked about this before, but for a long time we're told in our lives that sex is bad. Don't do it. Keep your legs crossed. Don't have sex. Or else you're a hoe. You're a hoe. You're, you know, then you get into one of these long relationships, then all of a sudden you're supposed to go from completely living your whole life as a young girl up into one stage one way. Then you're supposed to be able to flip it around and be free as free can be in the bedroom another way. And I just don't think that women make that transition so quickly. Guys are told their whole life that it's okay and it's a good thing. Yeah, go out, bang some chicks, man. It's great. You know, chop down a tree. You guys are given positive reinforcement in the sexual category your entire life. So no wonder you can, you know, take care of your business in three minutes. You know, I mean, think about it. If we're told it's wrong our whole lives and then all of a sudden you get married or you get in a long term relationship or you feel comfortable enough with a partner, all of a sudden you're supposed to be this like wild sexual being. I just don't think that. I just don't think it's possible to turn that quickly. That's why I think it takes a long time for women to discover themselves and discover themselves sexually.

[Derek]

I'd like to know when we're going to spend some equal time and talk about all the guys who've had to spend their entire relationships faking.

[Chris]

That'd be a very short conversation. Is that what you find yourself doing?

[Derek]

Yeah, all the time, right?

[Chris]

It's good.

[Derek]

With Jessica, it's like she's trying to chop down a troop at the baseball bat.

[Chris]

Listen, it's the Vert show.

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