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Jack
This is Nick, this is Jack.
Nick
It's Friday, the real Friday, January 16th. And today's pot is the best one yet. This is the best show we've ever done, baby.
Jack
The top three pop business news stories you need to know today.
Nick
But yetis, it's three day weekend, so Jack and I are whipping up a little surprise for you for your holiday.
Jack
Monday on MLK Day, we're publishing a full interview with the CEO of Elf Beauty.
Nick
More on that in a hot minute. But in the meantime, Jack, what's the mix for today's show?
Jack
For our first story, the biggest move in tech this week is that that AI graduated from medical school.
Nick
OpenAI and anthropic both launched medical chatbots. So we booked an appointment with Dr. GPT.
Jack
For our second story, it's the biggest college football weekend of the year. And one stock is celebrating. Daktronics.
Nick
Daktronics, because as college football becomes more like the pros, they're ordering jumbotrons from the dac.
Jack
And our third and final story, we interviewed the CEO of Elf Beauty, and he's also honestly, incredible.
Nick
What a guy.
Jack
The whole interview publishes on Monday while markets are closed for MLK Day.
Nick
But today, Jack and I are teasing one wild clip of that interview with Gen Z's favorite beauty brand.
Jack
And this clip is about the glory of dupes.
Nick
It's all about the dupes.
Jack
But yetis, before we hit that wonderful mix of stories.
Nick
I mean the mix. Love the mix of stories today, Jack.
Jack
January, underappreciated month.
Nick
I would say so. Jack, stocks are up, skiing is downhill, and full disclosure, my birthday's in like five days, man. Six days. What day is it exactly? Oh, you know, J.
Jack
Of course I know. I'm not gonna miss your full birthday.
Nick
I'll miss your quarter two quarters Thursday, but who's counting? Besties.
Jack
But the biggest event in January is dating Sundays.
Nick
That's right. Every Sunday this month is the unofficial holiday of the single people Sunday.
Jack
It's already the biggest day for dating apps in general.
Nick
You swipe on Sunday, so you first date on Friday, that's the pro tip.
Jack
But Sundays in January are the biggest of all.
Nick
Get this. Tinder sees that January Sundays have 18% more likes than the rest of the year.
Jack
And OkCupid says January Sundays have 70% more swipes than the rest of the year.
Nick
Okay, but pause the pod, Jack and I got curious. Jack, when exactly is the ultimate time for swiping on Sundays in January?
Jack
The climax, you mean? 8pm on Sunday in January is the absolute frenzy of peak dating app activity.
Nick
I see what you did there. The solstice is sliding into the DMs.
Jack
8Pm on Sunday is the equinox of.
Nick
Flirt emojis, the pinnacle of performative maleness. Pickup lines, if you will.
Jack
Maybe it's the New Year's resolutions, maybe.
Nick
It'S the Valentine's Day countdown.
Jack
Either way, there's nothing more romantic than 8pm this Sunday, especially on a three day weekend. So, Yetis, you look amazing.
Nick
Shoot your shot now. Put that puppy in the profile pic and Jack and I will hit our three stars.
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Nick
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Raj
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Noah
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Raj
But who? Who isn't? That's why each week we're talking about the topics that we could all use a little helping hit with. Whether it's making new friends as an adult, managing our emotions, or even dreaming.
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We'll be talking to experts in their fields who are definitely doing things right. So the rest of us can be a bit wiser and a lot better equipped to handle whatever life throws at us.
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Jack
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Nick
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Nick
For our first story, it's Chatgpt. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I'm sorry, Dr. Chatgpt. Because OpenAI and Anthropic both just launched Healthbots in the same week.
Jack
Nick. They didn't go to artificial medical school for nothing.
Nick
I didn't see that in the prescription.
Jack
Jack Yeti's ChatGPT Health is the healthcare industry's ozempic moment.
Nick
Now, Yetis. Interestingly, last week, Elon Musk said that going to medical school in three years.
Jack
Will be pointless because robots will be able to perform surgery.
Nick
Well, Elon's arch nemesis, Sam Altman doesn't think that's going to take three years. He thinks that's today.
Jack
Because last week, OpenAI snagged some scrubs and a stethoscope to launch ChatGPT Health.
Nick
A dedicated space for conversations with a chatbot about your health.
Jack
The virtual doctor will see you now. That's the best part of virtual health.
Nick
No waiting.
Jack
Although I should point out there is a wait list for this app, so it kind of is waiting.
Nick
That is ironic. Now, the reason they launched this is because, well, the data 230 million people were already asking questions on health and wellness every single week to ChatGPT.
Jack
And now those questions will be siloed away on ChatGPT Health so that they remember your health situation and layer on some extra privacy and security.
Nick
Yeah. What Jack's saying is, like, if you use ChatGPT at work and ask it to make you a deck on the quarterly earnings report, it won't accidentally stick.
Jack
A picture of that thing on your thigh you uploaded on slide 7.
Nick
I know. What the heck is that thing now?
Jack
Funny timing, because one week after OpenAI's announcement on Monday, Anthropic launched Cloud for healthcare.
Nick
Basically, Anthropic, OpenAI's rival, launched the same thing for the same exact medical reason.
Jack
And the key value proposition for both of these healthcare apps is that you can upload your whole Mychart so the chatbot will know everything about your medical situation and your history.
Nick
I mean, you're linking your health tracking apps, your Fitbits, your blood tests. This thing's gonna know your step count, if you want it to know from your iPhone.
Jack
So then when you have an appointment coming up or have a health issue, the chatbot remembers everything about you, add.
Nick
It all up, and ChatGPT is the new Grey's Anatomy, baby.
Jack
But it is a trade off we're all gonna have to face. Like, do you wanna give Sam Altman your most sensitive medical data, Nick?
Nick
If you do, Jack, you will have a free doctor in your pocket. But then again, that doctor could blackmail you in some future AI.
Jack
Crazy dystopia, Season eight of the Black Mirror.
Nick
Now, we also should point out, Yetis, that the lawyers on this deal made OpenAI say that it is supporting not replacing care from clinicians.
Jack
And remember, large language models don't know what's true. They just predict what's true based on the most likely thing on the Internet.
Nick
Which is why OpenAI also added this caveat. Not intended for diagnosis or treatment.
Jack
Even though that's definitely what you're gonna use.
Nick
OpenAI's HealthBot for Grey's Anatomy. Not a fan of what we just described.
Jack
Okay, but Nick, plot twist.
Nick
Yes, Jack.
Jack
We're not surprised that people are already using AI to check their health situation. We are surprised, however, that doctors are using it too.
Nick
Get this yetis. As of last year, two out of three American doctors was already using AI in their practice. And we can see exactly how they were using it.
Jack
A lot of doctors use AI for admin tasks, right?
Nick
Like taking handwritten notes and digitizing them for the records.
Jack
Others use AI for interacting, translating for.
Nick
A patient who only speaks Spanish.
Jack
And other doctors use AI for clinical diagnosis.
Nick
AI has become the wingman in spotting issues on the X ray.
Jack
But it's an unspoken secret of the whole health industry. Your doctor's already using AI too.
Nick
Which leads to our takeaway, sponsored by thytastrosol, the once daily pill for that thing on your thigh. What's the takeaway for our buddies over at Dr. GPT?
Jack
The healthcare industry is about to have it's Ozempic moment.
Nick
Yeah, this is wild. But 30% of healthcare costs in America are for administrative work. 30 cents of every buck we spend goes to paper and paper pushers.
Jack
Literally paper. Like, how many times have you written your address on the same paper form for the same doctor's office zip code representative? Now, if our healthcare system can employ AI effectively in their office, then that 30% admin share can go way down.
Nick
The analogy here, like taking Ozempic. Healthcare costs can slim down with this new technology, but patients can maybe cut.
Jack
Down their healthcare costs too with fewer and more efficient healthcare visits.
Nick
I mean, Jack, how many times have you visited a doctor, a hospital, or an urgent care to learn it was actually nothing on your thigh?
Jack
Dr. GPT in your pocket might Prevent a trip next time when you have a false alarm.
Nick
So besties, both on the patient side and on the industry side, AI can lower the cost in healthcare.
Jack
The healthcare industry. It's about to have its Ozempic moment. And if this podcast lasts longer than four hours, Contact your doctor.
Nick
For our second story. College football is rapidly becoming pro football. And the biggest stock market winner of that transformation. It's Daktronics.
Jack
Daktronics. Their Stock is up 10x in three years because every college stadium now has to have a Jumbotron.
Nick
Yetis circle the calendars. Monday night, Indiana plays the University of Miami for the college football national championship.
Jack
If Miami Wins, they'll be 142 national champions, Jack.
Nick
That's a 16 game season for college football.
Jack
I know. This season has gotten so long. Twenty years ago, when USC won the championship, they won with an 110 record.
Nick
More specifically, the season's gotten 45% longer in college football over two decades because college football is becoming pro football.
Jack
Mo games, mo money.
Nick
Which leads to the news. The University of Illinois just ordered a $10 million Jumbotron for their college stadium.
Jack
Illinois? They're not even like a football stadium.
Tarang Amin
Whoa.
Nick
We got a lot of Illinois listeners out there, Jack.
Jack
I know, but even Illinois listeners know they're not a football school.
Nick
Jack, you gotta take the Michigan energy from a 10 to an 8 on this one, buddy.
Jack
250Ft long, 69ft high. This is a television that runs nearly the length of the football field.
Nick
And Jack, we haven't even seen the size of the remote yet.
Jack
True. And that Jumbotron is all going to be booked as $10 million of revenue for Daktronics.
Nick
Pause the pod. Yeti's Daktronics is the pride of Sioux Falls, South Dakota. And by Jackson my research, the only publicly traded company from Sioux Falls, South Dakota.
Jack
Well, the only South Dakota company we've covered on the pod so far.
Nick
Fair Point. Fair Point, Chad. And quietly, they have become the biggest brand in what they call scoring and audio visual systems. Wild industry.
Jack
It's way cooler than how they call it. So let's go back to their history. In 1968, Daktronics built the first electronic basketball scoreboard.
Nick
In 1980, they did all the scoreboards for the Lake Placid Winter Olympics.
Jack
In 1998, they did the first jumbotron at an NFL stadium for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
Nick
You can watch that QB sneak in HD.
Jack
And then in 2001, they pivoted from sports to digitize the outdoor billboard.
Nick
Yay. You know, the Coca Cola sign of Times Square. Yep, that's Daktronics's work.
Jack
And then in 2017, they built what at the time was the world's largest screen at Mercedes Benz Stadium in Atlanta where the Falcons play.
Nick
And finally, fast forward to today. And the biggest screen in the world is the exterior of the sphere in Las Vegas.
Jack
And Daktronics did not do that one.
Nick
No, no, they actually didn't do the biggest screen.
Jack
No, they faced some competition, including from Sony, Samsung and a bunch of other companies you never heard of.
Nick
But still, Daktronics stock has jumped 1000% in the last three years. Because investors focus on the future.
Jack
They focus on the growth potential. And that growth is that college football is becoming pro football.
Nick
So, Jack, since You are a four time backup starting quarterback who also holds multiple disputed D3 records.
Jack
No, not disputed. Undisputed. I'll share the record at the end of the pod.
Nick
So, Jack, what's the takeaway for our buddies over Daktronics?
Jack
It's arena arbitrage. Every college stadium is actually an NFL stadium. They just don't know it yet. Yeah.
Nick
Full disclosure, Jack and I love how college sports is different than pro sports. We both played college sports. We love the amateur game, the bleachers.
Jack
The pep band, the silly halftime rituals and the much lower priced tickets.
Nick
Yeah, especially for our lacrosse games. But the reality is that college sports is now pro sports, which means prices are going up.
Jack
Just about every NFL stadium already has a huge Jumbotron. It's key for the nosebleeds. You can't see the field, but you can see the big screen.
Nick
But to justify higher priced tickets, it won't just be the University of Illinois buying a Jumbotron from Daktronics.
Jack
In our opinion, all 136 Division 1 college football programs are going to buy a Jumbotron. And it might be from Daktronics.
Nick
Plus, colleges would use those Jumbotrons for concerts as well.
Jack
Daktronics reveals the arbitrage opportunity of college arenas.
Nick
Every college stadium is about to become an NFL one. Now, a quick word from our sponsor.
Raj
Hey, it's Raj and Noah. And we're back with a new season of Am I Doing It Wrong? The show that explores the all too human anxieties we have about trying to get our lives right.
Noah
Because we're still doing a lot of stuff wrong.
Raj
But who isn't? That's why each week we're talking about the topics that we could all use a little helping hit with. Whether it's making new friends as an adult, managing our emotions or even dreaming.
Noah
We'll be talking to experts in their fields who are definitely doing things right, so the rest of us can be a bit wiser and a lot better equipped to handle whatever life throws at us.
Raj
Subscribe now and listen to new episodes of Am I Doing It Wrong? Dropping every Thursday starting January 1st, wherever you get your podcasts.
Noah
And for the first time ever, we're going to have full video episodes on YouTube. Because as long as there are things to get wrong, we're going to be right here to help you do them better.
Jack
Love y'.
Nick
All.
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Jack
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Nick
For our third and final story, it's actually an excerpt from our interview with Tarang Amin, the CEO of E L F Beauty.
Jack
Tarang was a consummate professional.
Nick
To be clear, he was great.
Jack
So we talked to him about how ELF has become the number one company in cosmetics.
Nick
We also talked to him about them acquiring Hailey Bieber's makeup business. And some advice for Jack's 42 step skincare routine.
Jack
Spoiler yes, my forehead is too shiny.
Nick
Very dewy though.
Jack
Jack the full episode publishes Monday, but here's one clip Clip to give you.
Tarang Amin
A taste, we have a concept where we call it zero distance. Zero distance between the C suite and our community. You know, I'll tell you a story. My CMO terrorizes me every few months. She comes and drags me onto TikTok Live. And you know, she doesn't get up there and she's not even very nice about it. She doesn't say, all right, you got the big boss. Tell them what you want, and the chat field will just light up. It'll just go crazy. There was one last year where I got on and a bunch of people said, hey, there's this prestige product. They make these bronzing drops. We love them, but I think they're 39 bucks. We can't afford 39 bucks. Help us out. And I'm reading the chat field. I'm like, yeah, okay, you want some bronzing drops? And then there's like another 20 chats right after that. And they're like, no, no, boss man, we want them now. I will literally leave that call a bit terrorized or traumatized. And. And the first thing I'll do is I'll call it my head innovation. We have a three year product pipeline. I'll say, oh, my God, please for the love of God, tell me we have some bronzing gloves. And she's like, yeah, we do. I'm like, great, great. When are they coming out? And she's like, oh, we got them slated for 18 months from now. And I'm like, oh, no, no, no, no. I cannot have our community yell at me. Move it up. And we launched them within six months. And that's our entire model. It's like, we look at our community, what do they want? Where can we bring the best of beauty, put our ELF twist on and bring it at an incredible value? And that's fueled the entire model, particularly this day and age. Our strength with our community, particularly on social, really makes that model work where we're not dependent on some celebrity or advertising or something else to be able to get the word out. Our community is our absolute best advocates.
Jack
They must have freaked out when you launched that product for eight bucks.
Tarang Amin
Oh, my God, they did.
Nick
Well, Turing, two questions about that Christian Dior dupe product that Jack and I have been dying to ask on dupes in general with you. The first is any moral hesitation on copying someone's idea. I see how you're saying you're influencing, but was there any moral hesitation there?
Tarang Amin
I'd say it was a moral authority responsibility. I actually think it's immoral to charge a consumer 40, 50 bucks or something that we can clearly show you can make for less and actually have just as good or better quality. And you know, I mentioned earlier, 2/3 of Americans live paycheck to paycheck. We think it's immoral to charge a lot of money to those people who are barely making it. So we take great pride in being able to put our ELF twist on and be able to have the best of prestige at a fraction of the price.
Nick
Lululemon, if you're listening, Terang Amin just made the moral case for the dupe as the right thing to do. The second question, by the way, Jack, is. Is just why, by the way, is Christian Dior so expensive in the first place? Jack, could you whip us up the takeaways to head to the weekend?
Jack
OpenAI and Anthropic both launched chatbots this month specifically for healthcare, but it does not replace your doctor healthcare.
Nick
It's about to have its Ozempic moment and Sami Altman is going Doogie Howser.
Jack
For our second story. Daktronics stock is surging as college sports adds pro sports features like giant Jumbotrons.
Nick
Because every college stadium is now a pro stadium. They just don't realize it yet.
Jack
And our third and final story, E L F Beauty now sells the number one product in all of beauty. It's the Power Grip Primer.
Nick
And ELF did it with their zero distance principle. And you can learn more about that and more in Monday's full interview.
Jack
But besties, this pod's not over yet. Here's what else you need to know today.
Nick
First, coolest bank on Wall Street, Goldman Stanley, we're calling it now.
Jack
Both of those investment banks are thriving, as announced in their Thursday investment banking earnings.
Nick
Remember Yetis? We covered Goldman's wild news back in November, including their record merger and acquisition advisory fee of 110 million bucks for electronic Arts.
Jack
Well, both Morgan Stanley and Goldman Sachs earned almost exactly $4.4 billion in quarterly profits last quarter.
Nick
If you're swiping Tinder on Sunday and see someone named Goldman Stanley, swipe right.
Jack
They'Re paying for dinner.
Nick
And second, Meta has begun layoffs of their Metaverse division. Sadly, 1,000 jobs are expected to be.
Jack
Since Meta changed their name from Facebook, they've actually racked up $70 billion of operating license in that Metaverse division.
Nick
So now Zuck's cutting those stunning Metaverse losses and pivoting to AI devices like glasses.
Jack
Meta may have to change their name once again.
Nick
And finally, Aldi is officially America's fastest growing grocery chain. They're adding 180 new stores in just the next couple years.
Jack
In this economy, German frugality is thriving.
Nick
Aldi has 2.5 of the grocery market here in America. They're still way behind Walmart's 25%, but.
Jack
They'Re growing fast and they're even snagging Whole Foods faithful.
Nick
If you want us to do a story at Aldi, drop a comment in the comments. Now time for the best fact yet. This one whipped up by Jack and me before you head into the three day weekend. Jack, what do we got?
Jack
The I have a Dream speech by Martin Luther King Jr. Was delivered in August at the national mall in Washington.
Nick
D.C. goris most famous speech.
Jack
But did you know he delivered that speech one time before he famously delivered.
Nick
It in D.C. Dr. Martin Luther King actually kind of like soft launched the I have a Dream speech before he really did It.
Jack
Yeah, he did. A couple months prior to Washington, he did it in Detroit. And the audience must have been so floored. He's like, I'm gonna do this in D.C. in front of the Lincoln Memorial. He was arrested 29 times in his life. He went to College at age 15, got a PhD at 26 and a Nobel Prize by 35.
Nick
Not.
Jack
Not too shabby.
Nick
Yetis, you have looked fantastic all week. Congratulations on getting to the real Friday.
Jack
I promised I'd share my NCAA college football record.
Nick
Oh, yeah, the disputed one.
Jack
No, the undisputed one. So as a starting quarterback.
Nick
Yes.
Jack
At Middlebury College, I went 2. 0. What winning percentage is that, Nick?
Nick
By my math, Jack, that's 100%.
Jack
That's an NCAA record.
Nick
Yet he's happy swiping on Sundays. Celebrate the wins. If you've got a takeaway, drop it in the comments. And Jack and I, we'll see you Monday. Celebrate the wins. And before we go, a happy birthday to legendary yeti Tony Howard, turning 27 somewhere on a boat.
Jack
And happy birthday to Derrick Edwards in Tuscaloosa, Alabama.
Nick
And Kunal Dovey in Irvine, California. Celebrate the best birthday yet.
Jack
And happy birthday to Amy Klein in New York City, who's going to a Broadway play to celebrate Amy. Best restaurant in the Broadway district, Lattanzi. It's actually where Lauren Michaels takes his guests who star on SNL pro tip.
Nick
And across the river, a happy birthday to Mira Ashwin, celebrating in Ridgewood, New Jersey.
Jack
Happy 37th birthday to Devin M. Young in Atlanta, Georgia, who's launching a fine art photo business.
Nick
And Jack, legendary Eddie Jack, Sigh is turning 39 years old. This guy is the best one yet in New York.
Jack
And happy birthday to Jackson Levine turning 14 years old in San Antonio, Texas.
Nick
And Lisa Smith, happy 47th down in Gilbertsville.
Jack
Happy 30th birthday to Catherine Pizzani in Philadelphia.
Nick
And Matt Keller. Celebrate the best birthday in Laguna Beach, California, baby.
Jack
And happy birthday to Lance Hunt, the DJ in Miami, fla. And Jack, we.
Nick
Got a new dental school student over in Virginia, Hannah Truong. You got this.
Jack
Congratulations to Jeffrey Morales in San Francisco, who's got a new data scientist job at Makena Capital.
Nick
And Maria Jose down in Denver just paid off their student loans.
Jack
Maria and Oliver Peterson in London, if you're listening, that was the best comment ever.
Nick
Thank you for leaving that comment, man.
Jack
And to anyone else celebrating something today, make it a T, boy.
Nick
Celebrate the wins. Did you see his comment?
Jack
I have not seen it, dude.
Tarang Amin
No.
Nick
All right, let me read this to you. Jack T Boy has been my essential morning ritual for three years. Nick and Jack, you've completely changed the way I look at the market and sparked a genuine passion for investing I never knew I had. My life and my portfolio are better because of the show. Thank you for making us feel brighter every single day. Oliver Peterson in London.
Jack
Wow.
Nick
Wow. That was incredible. So, so incredible. What a guy. Thank you, guys.
Raj
Hey, it's Raj and Noah. And we're back with a new season of Am I Doing It Wrong? The show that explores the all too human anxieties we have about trying to get our lives right.
Noah
Because we're still doing a lot of stuff wrong.
Raj
But who isn't? That's why each week we're talking about the topics of that we could all use a little helping hit with. Whether it's making new friends as an adult, managing our emotions, or even dreaming.
Noah
We'Ll be talking to experts in their fields who are definitely doing things right, so the rest of us can be a bit wiser and a lot better equipped to handle whatever life throws at us.
Raj
Subscribe now and listen to new episodes of Am I Doing It Wrong? Dropping every Thursday starting January 1st, wherever you get your podcasts.
Noah
And for the first time ever, we're going to have full video episodes on YouTube. Because as long as there are things to get wrong, we're going to be right here to help you do them better.
Raj
Love you.
Nick
Go.
In this episode (Jan 16, 2026), Nick Martell and Jack Crivici-Kramer cover the three hottest stories in pop business: OpenAI and Anthropic’s medical chatbot launches (a.k.a. “Dr. Altman”), Daktronics’ explosive growth tied to college football’s embrace of pro-level Jumbotrons, and a lively preview of their interview with ELF Beauty CEO Tarang Amin. The episode also touches on January’s “Dating Sundays” phenomenon, and includes rapid-fire takes on Goldman Stanley, Meta, Aldi, and a fascinating MLK “soft launch” fact.
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This episode combines quick-witted banter, memorable business analogies, and actionable insights to keep you sharp on the week’s buzziest business news. As Nick and Jack say, “Celebrate the wins.”