Podcast Summary: The Best One Yet
Episode: 😈 “Gayborhood” — Grindr’s gay super-app. Saks’ hippo bankruptcy. Airbnb for Diggers. +McConnaughey’s trademark
Date: January 15, 2026
Hosts: Jack Crivici-Kramer & Nick Martell
Overview
In this brisk, witty episode, Jack and Nick deliver three headline business stories: the historic bankruptcy of Saks Fifth Avenue (and what really killed it), Grindr’s ambitious pivot from dating app to “gay super-app” with recurring e-commerce, and EquipmentShare’s arrival on the public markets as the “Airbnb for bulldozers.” The show also features a fun segment on Matthew McConaughey trademarking himself, updates on Delta’s luxury strategy, Nike’s entry into pickleball, and a language fact about “RSVP”.
Key Stories and Insights
1. Saks Fifth Avenue’s Bankruptcy: Death by Debt and Real Estate Gambles
[04:05-08:14]
Background & History:
- Saks, founded in 1867 by German Jewish immigrant Andrew Saks, was a retail innovator—first to implement fixed pricing and to offer refunds.
- Its iconic Fifth Avenue store (opened in 1924) helped put Fifth Avenue on the global fashion map.
- At its peak in 2001: 200 stores, $6 billion in revenue, and a successful IPO.
What Went Wrong:
- Survived urban flight (1970s) and ecommerce (2000s), but could not weather mounting debt.
- In 2024, Saks borrowed $2B to acquire the rival Neiman Marcus.
- “Basically, they tried to eat their rival, but Neiman was so big, Saks choked on it.” (Nick, [06:16])
- High interest rates: $400M annually just in interest
- Recent struggles: Missed a $100M interest payment, filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy.
Crucial Misstep:
- Saks isn’t just a retailer—“Saks is actually a real estate firm that happens to sell dresses.” (Nick, [07:02])
- The true target: Neiman’s Bergdorf Goodman store at 57th and Fifth, “the golden corner.”
- The leverage from that deal was a “Hail Mary desperation play for a department store past its peak.” (Jack, [07:17])
The Real Killer:
- Not just debt, but a changing luxury market: big brands (LV, Gucci, Prada) now prefer direct-to-consumer, cutting out department stores.
- “Why go to Saks on Fifth when you can go to the Louis Vuitton tower also right down the street?” (Nick, [08:03])
Memorable Analogy:
- “It’s like the gator of Saks tried to eat the hippo of Neiman in one bite and basically got crushed.” (Nick, [06:46])
2. Grindr’s Secret to Surviving the Dating App Crash: The “Gayborhood” Super-App
[08:14-11:41]
The Situation:
- Tinder & Bumble stocks have cratered, but Grindr bucks the trend:
- 15M users, 67 minutes/day average.
- 130B chats in 2024.
- Revenue & profits at all-time highs.
Why Grindr Works:
- Built as a safe space for the gay community.
- Now planning for a world where “Gen Z is simply done having pictures of their face swiped left or right on somebody’s phone.” (Jack, [09:15])
The Pivot:
- Grindr’s “gayborhood” strategy (per leaked docs): become a “gay super-app.”
- “Not just for dating, but for selling. Selling things like hair products.” (Nick, [09:37])
- Rolled out “Woodwork” erectile dysfunction pills; plans for haircare, skincare, and more—aiming for four direct-to-consumer lines by 2028.
The Playbook:
- Monetize recurring purchases: consumables with reliable renewal cycles.
- “Recurring as in, not one-off sales...you’re going to buy them every few months as you run out.” (Nick, [11:11])
Memorable Quotes:
- “If you’re going to expand the gayborhood, make sure it’s with repeat rabbits.” (Jack, [10:48] and [11:41])
- “Add it all up, and Grindr calls it a gay-eye super-app.” (Nick, [10:40])
3. EquipmentShare IPO: The Airbnb for Construction Vehicles
[12:01-16:36]
Industry Backdrop:
- American construction productivity is “pathetically slow”—productivity up just 1.6x since 1947, compared to 10x on farms and 3.5x in manufacturing.
- $11 trillion global industry—yet productivity is down since 1973.
What is EquipmentShare?
- A “fleet rental marketplace” for construction equipment, founded a decade ago in Missouri.
- Not just renting “drills for the day,” but entire fleets (bulldozers, cranes, etc.) to contractors.
Scale & Technology:
- 373 physical locations, $8B in vehicles, 325,000+ assets, all tracked with smart sensors.
- “It’s basically a toddler’s dream.” (Jack, [14:15])
Financials:
- Revenue growth averaging 140%, now $4B/year—targeting $6B valuation at IPO.
- But growth is slowing (just 27% last year, down each year since 2022).
Cyclical Warning:
- “When it comes to stocks, the word ‘cyclical’ makes investors sick.” (Jack, [16:31])
- Growth will lag when construction slows, as in high interest-rate environments.
Memorable Moment:
- Nick riffing: “Can you invite Jack, me, and our two two-year-old toddler boys to your next earnings report?” (Nick, [14:24])
Notable & Fun Moments
Matthew McConaughey’s Trademark Maneuver
[01:11-02:21]
- McConaughey trademarked his name, image, and signature phrases, including “All right, all right, all right.”
- “McConaughey is now legal property of McConaughey.” (Jack, [01:33])
- Why? To battle AI clones of his voice and likeness.
- “He doesn’t want ChatGPT stealing his southern drawl.” (Jack, [01:51])
Industry Updates
[17:16-18:42]
- Delta Airlines: Premium cabin (first and business class) sales surpass coach for first time—a sign of the “K-shaped” economy. “It’s like a 12-tier society up in the sky.” (Jack, [17:57])
- Nike’s First Pickleball Star: Signed Anna Lee Waters, the “LeBron of LaKitchen” (pickleball), as brand ambassador.
Best Fact Yet
[18:51-19:13]
- Origin of RSVP: from French “Répondez s’il vous plaît,” meaning “please reply.”
Selected Quotes With Timestamps
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On Saks & Neiman:
- “Basically, they tried to eat their rival, but Neiman was so big, Saks choked on it.”
—Nick, [06:16]
- “Basically, they tried to eat their rival, but Neiman was so big, Saks choked on it.”
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On Grindr’s business model:
- "If you’re going to expand the gayborhood, make sure it’s with repeat rabbits.”
—Jack, [10:48]
- "If you’re going to expand the gayborhood, make sure it’s with repeat rabbits.”
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On EquipmentShare’s IPO:
- “When it comes to stocks, the word ‘cyclical’ makes investors sick.”
—Jack, [16:31]
- “When it comes to stocks, the word ‘cyclical’ makes investors sick.”
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On McConaughey’s legal move:
- "McConaughey is now legal property of McConaughey."
—Jack, [01:33]
- "McConaughey is now legal property of McConaughey."
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On Delta’s luxe pivot:
- "It’s like a 12-tier society up in the sky.”
—Jack, [17:57]
- "It’s like a 12-tier society up in the sky.”
Additional Insights and Recommendations
- Luxury Retail is out of step with today’s market: The old “curation” value-prop is dead; premium brands now want to own the shopper relationship.
- **Tech platforms, even legacy ones, can pivot if they truly understand—and keep—their community engaged, as Grindr demonstrates.
- IPO caution: EquipmentShare’s tech-driven model is impressive, but the underlying industry cycles can limit returns even for well-run businesses.
Conclusion
Jack and Nick maintain their trademark energy and clarity, turning challenging business news into digestible, entertaining stories—whether you’re an investor or an oatmeal connoisseur.
Bottom line: Saks’ fall wasn’t just about retail—it was about real estate and luxury brand disruption. Grindr shows how to outlive a dying category through community and recurring e-commerce. And even the cleverest “Airbnb-for-X” isn’t safe from the broader business cycle.
Timestamps for Main Segments
- McConaughey’s Trademark: [01:11-02:21]
- Saks Fifth Avenue Bankruptcy: [04:05-08:14]
- Grindr’s Gayborhood Super-App: [08:14-11:41]
- EquipmentShare & Construction Industry: [12:01-16:36]
- Rapid-Fire Industry Updates (Delta, Nike): [17:16-18:42]
- Best Fact Yet (RSVP): [18:51-19:13]
Recommended for:
Anyone who wants a sharp, approachable take on major business stories, with a side of clever analogies, infectious banter, and business wisdom you can actually use.
