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Episode: “Stablecoins” — Interview with Circle CEO Jeremy Allaire (Philosopher of the Coin)
Date: April 3, 2026
Hosts: Nick Tomaino & Jack Tatar
Guest: Jeremy Allaire, CEO & Founder of Circle

Episode Overview

This episode is a deep dive into the world of stablecoins—the “boringest” but arguably most transformative aspect of cryptocurrency—through an engaging conversation with Jeremy Allaire, CEO of Circle and creator of USDC (USD Coin). Known for his philosophical approach and as a foundational figure in the fintech revolution, Jeremy unpacks the journey, utility, and game-changing potential of stablecoins, especially USDC, in modernizing global finance. The episode covers the technology behind stablecoins, their relationship to fiat, regulatory considerations, industry impact, and the broader financial paradigm shifts they are driving.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Crypto Market Turbulence: Setting the Stage

• Complexity & Volatility
  • Jeremy describes the current macro climate: volatility in both crypto and traditional markets, de-dollarization, and economic uncertainty.

  “All bets are off.” (Jeremy Allaire, 01:43)

  • Leverage, deleveraging events, and global uncertainty are common to both tech stocks and crypto.

2. Jeremy Allaire’s Origin Story and Philosophical Approach

• The Apple II Spider Bite:
  • Receiving an Apple II computer in the early 1980s was transformative, inspiring a sense of democratization and empowerment.

  “We experienced this as a tool of radical empowerment... This was like the Gutenberg Press.” (Jeremy Allaire, 03:17)

• From Bitcoin to Stablecoins:
  • Jeremy was fascinated by the technical breakthrough of bitcoin, seeing it as a new infrastructure layer for the internet, not just a digital asset.
  • Unlike bitcoin maximalists, he saw greater opportunity in building a “missing layer” for handling money on the open internet.

3. What Is a Stablecoin?

• The Streaming Analogy:
  • Hosts liken stablecoins to streaming vs. cable TV: digital dollars (USDC) make money programmable, instant, and accessible like streaming transformed entertainment.

  “Fiat currency is cable TV... Stablecoins are Seinfeld on streaming.” (Jack Tatar, 10:11)

  • Jeremy’s analogy: “over-the-top Internet money”—the infrastructure of money is now as open and programmable as digital media. (06:11)
• Why Stablecoins?
  • The US dollar is ubiquitous, but lacks a natively digital, global, always-on protocol—stablecoins solve this.
  • Goal: Move the $60T of non-interest bearing deposits and physical cash into natively digital form (13:06).

4. The Need for (and Problems with) Digital Dollars

• Global Access and Efficiency:
  • Today’s system is “like a 1955 Chevy truck,” slow, friction-filled, outdated.
  • Examples: future remittances, instant global transactions, fewer intermediaries, less friction.

  “I want to be able to directly transact at the speed of the Internet at no cost.” (Jeremy Allaire, 14:39)

• Why is Financial Infrastructure So Outdated?
  • Heavy regulation, legacy tech, and inertia have kept money pipes slow for decades (16:04).
  • Banks and payment services use tech from the 70s–90s “under the hood.”

  “These industries that have a lot of friction tend to be more highly regulated.” (Jeremy Allaire, 16:04)

5. Risk, Trust, and Regulation

• Are There Benefits to Financial Slowness?
  • Some delays help with fraud and risk controls. Jeremy argues technology and social risk controls can coexist, and actually improve in a digital system:

  “We can build something ground up that is natively digital... and then build the mechanism around it to address those social risks.” (Jeremy Allaire, 18:45)

• Transparency & Reserves:
  • Circle’s USDC reserves: Mostly short-duration US Treasuries, some cash in top-tier custody banks. All holdings are transparent and auditable.

  “You can see the amount that’s in circulation in real time at all times.” (Jeremy Allaire, 20:45; 21:53)

  • Fun moment: The dollar is, at its core, “an Oracle database with Sun Microsystems computers.” (Jeremy Allaire, 23:20)

6. Stablecoins vs. Traditional Finance

• How Stable is a Stablecoin?

  “We have always redeemed every single USDC... for a dollar... we are required by law to redeem one for one.” (Jeremy Allaire, 26:50)

  • USDC is fully backed, always redeemable, never lent out—this is “the boringest” but most reliable part of crypto.
• The Impact on Payments & Finance:
  • Major companies like Stripe and Shopify now support USDC by default, offering transaction fees 1/3 those of Visa or Mastercard (29:40–30:38).
  • Stablecoins enable both microtransactions (AI agents paying each other) and large-scale capital flows (digital bond settlements).
  • Over time, existing intermediaries like Visa must adapt or risk being outmoded by new “plumbing.”

7. Future Impact & Who Loses?

• Credit Card Companies & Intermediaries:
  • Lower payment fees will cut into incumbents’ revenue models.
  • But established brands like Visa may roll out their own stablecoin solutions.
• Scale & Network Effects:
  • Growth could reach several trillion dollars worth of stablecoins in circulation over the next decade.

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “Circle doesn’t sell memes, they sell plumbing.” – Jack Tatar (00:52)
• “Bitcoin is your crazy cousin, but stablecoins are your smart uncle.” – Nick Tomaino (00:54)
• “Stablecoin is the same thing [as money], but it’s much quicker and smoother and more frictionless and more flexible and built on just the Internet.” – Jack Tatar (10:11)
• “You can see the amount that’s in circulation in real time at all times.” – Jeremy Allaire (20:45)
• “The dollar is like an Oracle database sitting out there... quantitative easing is like a SQL insert statement.” – Jeremy Allaire (23:20)
• “Stablecoins are poised to become a much larger part of the global financial system... supporting dramatically more efficient capital markets, dramatically more efficient economic participation.” – Jeremy Allaire (31:29)

Timestamps for Key Segments

• Crypto context & market turbulence: 01:41–02:45
• Jeremy’s early inspiration (Apple II): 03:10–04:48
• Bitcoin "spider bite": 04:48–05:41
• What is a stablecoin/analogy: 05:59–10:40
• Digital dollars & access: 13:06–15:23
• Why financial plumbing is outdated: 15:23–17:40
• Risk, fraud, and transparency: 18:05–19:56
• Circle’s reserves & transparency: 20:45–23:40
• How stable are stablecoins: 26:36–27:57
• Future winners/losers — payment disruption: 27:57–31:20
• The takeaway: 31:25–32:26
• Rapid-fire (books, business, restaurant): 32:36–33:40

Takeaway & Closing Thoughts

Jeremy’s core message:

“We are seeing the Internet colliding with the financial system... The scale of those changes are going to happen in the financial system. Circle is a critical infrastructure company... At the core is our stablecoin network with USDC. Stablecoins are poised to become a much larger part of the global financial system.” (31:29)

Hosts’ closing play:
“Plumbing can be sexy.” (32:26)
The episode wraps with rapid-fire questions and Jeremy’s playful self-ticker: “JDA.”

Final Thoughts

This episode offers a lucid, often witty walk through the real potential of stablecoins and the transformation of the global monetary system. Jeremy Allaire grounds the discussion with technical, philosophical, and practical perspectives, clarifying how Circle and USDC are building the digital money pipes—robust, transparent, and ready for scale—beneath the financial industry’s next era. For anyone wanting to understand the “smart uncle” side of crypto, this is essential listening.