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The Best People with Nicolle Wallace

Episode: Scott Galloway Wants to Make America America Again
Date: November 10, 2025
Host: Nicolle Wallace
Guest: Scott Galloway – Professor, author of Notes on Being a Man, podcast host

Episode Overview

This episode features a candid and wide-ranging discussion between Nicolle Wallace and Scott Galloway about the evolving crises facing boys and men in America, the changing nature of masculinity, political disaffection, generational economic shifts, and the urgent need to reimagine opportunity, connection, and empathy. Galloway sharply critiques both major political parties, explores his personal journey from poverty to privilege, and issues a call for societal and policy reforms that meaningfully support all Americans—especially young men.

Major Discussion Themes & Key Insights

1. Scott Galloway’s Upbringing and the Changing Social Contract

• Scott’s Background: Raised by a single immigrant mother, benefitted from public support (Pell grants, financial aid, free lunch). (05:00)
  • “My backstory is that America loved unremarkable kids. It gave us all a shot. And now I worry that it's essentially the Hunger Games...” (04:27)
• Opportunity Then vs. Now:
  • Access to higher education was broader, now only the “children of rich or the freakishly remarkable” are favored.
  • America’s promise used to be about giving everyone a shot, now it’s about making billionaires.
  • “I feel like America used to be about giving everyone a shot at being a millionaire and now they've crowded all the opportunity thinking that we just wanna make more billionaires.” (04:52)

2. Privilege, Debt, and the Duty of Empathy

• Reflections on Privilege:
  • Galloway calls himself a “product of big government” and stresses the importance of recognizing unearned advantages. (05:00–07:00)
  • “The smartest thing I did was being born a white heterosexual male in 1964. I hit the lottery without buying a ticket, which means men of my generation have a debt.” (07:15)
• Empathy vs. Sympathy:
  • True empathy for those struggling comes from lived experience with adversity. (05:51)
• Masculinity as Protection:
  • Loss of societal protective instinct is a root of many present issues.
  • “I think one of the legs of the stool of masculinity is protection. And I feel like we've lost that...leaders have conflated incorrectly and dangerously masculinity with coarseness and cruelty.” (07:26–08:00)

3. Crisis Among Young Men: Economics, Identity, and Mental Health

• Economic Dislocation:
  • Generational wealth gap: “People under 30 are 24% less wealthy than 40 years ago; people of my generation are 72% wealthier.” (10:07)
  • Housing, education, and living costs have exploded while incomes haven’t kept pace.
• Political Implications:
  • Young men and their mothers have shifted right, voting against incumbency out of frustration. (10:00–12:00)
  • “If your son is failing, almost half of men under 24 live at home...and if you’re the parent of a struggling kid, your whole world shrinks to that kid.” (11:07)
• Romantic and Social Challenges:
  • Men need relationships “more” than women, are less resilient to loneliness, and face new obstacles in today’s sexual marketplace.
  • “If a guy hasn’t been married or cohabitated by 30, there’s a 1 in 3 chance he’ll be a substance abuser.” (13:49)
  • “The most unstable, violent societies...have a disproportionate number of young men with a lack of economic and romantic opportunities.” (12:29)

4. Vulnerability, Emotions, and the Modern Male

• Galloway’s Personal Struggles:
  • Open about his battles with anger and depression; developed personal ‘hacks’ for mental health support.
  • “From 29 to 44 I didn’t cry...just kind of forgot how. My advice to any man...is to really lean into your emotions. We’re sentient beings, which is synonymous with emotion.” (15:22–16:20)
• Changing Models of Masculinity:
  • John Boehner (former Speaker of the House) as example of public male vulnerability.
  • “It’s hard to present yourself as strong and a provider and a protector if you’re emotional. But I do think that’s changing.” (18:14)
• Family, Affection, and Parenting:
  • Advocates for intense parental affection and co-sleeping, reflecting on his own upbringing and the value of breaking cycles of emotional reserve. (22:27–24:08)

5. Mental Health in an Era of Screens and Isolation

• Overcoming Depression:
  • Shares SCAFA (Sweat, Clean eating, Abstinence from substances, Family, Affection) as mental health routine. (24:21)
• Tech and Depression:
  • “We have connected our economy to diabetes and depression.” (26:05)
  • Explains how tech companies profit from addicting users to screens and dividing them from real relationships.
  • “Your success...your mental health...are inversely correlated to how much time you spend on a screen.” (27:35)

6. Big Tech, Youth, and Synthetic Relationships

• Policy Failures:
  • Criticizes lack of age-gating for social media: “…like handing a 9 year old a screen. We age gate the military, pornography, alcohol, voting—but not screens.” (29:17)
• Synthetic Relationships:
  • Warns of 1 in 3 young people being in “synthetic” relationships with AI chatbots; fears for young men avoiding real relationships and resilience.
  • “What really has me freaked out is the idea of synthetic relationships.” (30:20)
• Pornography and Motivation:
  • Discusses how synthetic porn and effortless titillation removes incentive from young men to grow, learn social skills, and pursue real connections.
  • “If I’d had lifelike synthetic porn on my phone and computer 24/7, I’m not sure I would’ve gone on campus as much and I might not have graduated from college." (32:40)

7. Politics, Media, and the “Manosphere”

• Trump’s Appeal and the Podcasting Revolution:
  • Trump successfully leveraged the podcast/manosphere ecosystem to reach disaffected young men.
  • “The average podcast listener is a 34-year-old, ethnically ambiguous male. He’s a swing voter because he typically votes on who he perceives as being better for his pocketbook...the manosphere and podcasts delivered the election to Trump.” (35:16)
• Role Models and Public Masculinity:
  • Young men’s premier role models are Trump (“the most powerful man in the world”) and Musk (“the wealthiest man in the world”).
  • Critiques the loss of “protection” as a defining masculine value in public leadership. (37:01)
  • Moves to reassert that masculinity should not be about cruelty or coarseness but about caring for and protecting the vulnerable.

8. Rebranding and Reframing Masculinity

• Against “Toxic Masculinity”:
  • “Toxic masculinity isn’t a thing—it’s oxymoronic.” (38:38)
  • “Masculinity and femininity are not sequestered to people born as males or females...95% of us are born binary. For those of us born biologically male, leaning into masculinity can serve as a great code.” (40:40)
  • “Where we see recklessness in young men, you also have to recognize there’s valor.” (41:42)
• Masculine Role Models:
  • “My role models for masculinity are Margaret Thatcher and Hillary Clinton.” (40:50)
  • “That is the ultimate expression of masculinity: public policy that would plant trees, the shade of which she would never sit under.” (41:04)

9. Political Frustrations and Pragmatism

• Critique of Both Parties:
  • Democrats begin with the right idea but often take it too far; cancel culture and purity tests.
  • Republicans respond with overreaction and cruelty, focusing on baseline coarseness, especially in Trump’s coalition.
• Calls for Solutions, Not Outrage:
  • “We need to be more focused on ideas versus indignance and stop the purity test...let’s move to the ideas part of the program: is it $25 an hour minimum wage? Lowering healthcare costs? Nationalized medicine? Mandatory national service?” (49:30)
• Female Leaders & Sexism:
  • America’s political culture is still deeply “looksist and sexist”…predicts the first female president will be Republican and viewed as a hawk in the mold of Margaret Thatcher. (55:32)
  • “More women have been graduating from college for 40 years...but only 26% of elected officials are women.” (54:17)
• Empathy is Not Zero-Sum:
  • “Empathy is not a zero sum game. Gay marriage didn’t hurt heteronormative marriage. Civil rights didn’t hurt white people...advocating for young men doesn’t take from the fact that women still face real hurdles.” (53:26)

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Generational Change:
  “America loved unremarkable kids. It gave us all a shot. And now I worry that it's essentially the Hunger Games.” (Scott Galloway, 04:27)
• On Masculinity and Protection:
  “One of the legs of the stool of masculinity is protection. Our budgets reflect our values...40% of SNAP recipients are under the age of 18.” (Galloway, 08:10)
• On Vulnerability:
  “From 29 to 44 I didn’t cry. My advice to any man...is to really lean into your emotions. We're sentient beings, which is synonymous with emotion.” (Galloway, 16:00)
• On Young Men’s Crisis:
  “If a guy hasn’t been married or cohabitated by 30, there’s a 1 in 3 chance he’ll be a substance abuser. Men need relationships much more than women.” (Galloway, 13:49)
• On Big Tech & AI:
  “You are up against a very capable, well armed foe that wants to sequester you and divide you from the key thing to mental health, which is being around other people.” (Galloway, 27:38)
• On Role Models:
  “Masculinity and femininity are not sequestered to people born as males or females...two of my role models for masculinity are Margaret Thatcher and Hillary Clinton.” (Galloway, 40:50)
• On Political Solutions:
  “There needs to be more pragmatism recognizing that we have made progress and certain things are outdated...we absolutely need to figure out a way to say coarseness and cruelty couldn’t be any more opposite than the whole point of America.” (Galloway, 51:47)

Key Timestamps & Segment Guide

• [05:00] Galloway’s personal journey through public support and college
• [07:15] On generational privilege and debt
• [08:10] Masculinity, protection, and budgets as expressions of societal values
• [11:07] Economic and romantic challenges facing young men
• [13:49] The mental health/gender gap: relationships, loneliness, and risk
• [16:00] Advice on embracing emotion and vulnerability
• [22:27] The value (and regret) around affectionate parenting, co-sleeping
• [24:21] SCAFA: Galloway’s mental health survival checklist
• [26:05] Systemic causes of depression and isolation
• [29:17] Age-gating and tech policy for youth
• [30:20] The danger of synthetic AI relationships for young men
• [35:16] Podcasting, the manosphere, Trump, and young male voters
• [37:01] Reimagining masculine values and leadership
• [40:50] Masculinity transcending gender: Thatcher and Clinton as role models
• [49:30] Frustration with both parties, craving for policy solutions
• [54:17] Sexism in politics and the future of female national leaders

Conclusion

Scott Galloway’s conversation is a tour through personal history, social critique, and a passionate call for America to “make America America again”—an America that genuinely expands opportunity, fosters connection, protects the vulnerable, and reimagines masculinity as a force for decency and solidarity. His blend of candor, data, and vulnerability offers listeners both a diagnosis and a prescription for a nation “crowding out” the chance at real flourishing—not just for young men, but for everyone.