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Family. Welcome to day 224. We're still in the book of Jeremiah. Jeremiah, the big book. At the big book, we are in Jeremiah chapters 42, 43, 44 and 45. Today, four more chapters of the book of Jeremiah. If you've done the reading, then you already know where we are going. The context for today is directly following the fall of of Jerusalem. So this is the aftermath of the fall of Jerusalem. If you have not done the reading, then this episode isn't going to be that helpful. You got to have context, and the Bible's good for you. Okay, so we don't want these episodes to be a substitute for reading your Bible. We want these episodes to supplement your Bible reading. And so if you haven't done the reading, stop the video, pause the audio, please go read Jeremiah, chapter 42, 43, 44 and 45, and come on back and we'll have a blast together. All right? We're going to have a good time. All right? Now, Jeremiah, chapter 42 and 43 is taking place just after the murder of Gedaliah, okay? Three months after the fall of Jerusalem in July of 586 BC. They are dealing with the consequences of that murder, the possibility of Further Babylonian reprisals. Nebuchadnezzar is not just gonna let you kill the governor that he's installed, and there's not gonna be consequences. Consequences and repercussions are coming from Nebuchadnezzar. And what happens to Jeremiah and the remnant in the land as the aftermath of killing Gedaliah is what these chapters are all about. Jeremiah chapter 44 is kind. Kind of considerable time later. So chapter 42 and 43 is taking place just after the murder. Jeremiah chapter 44 is sometime later than Jeremiah 42 and 43 as Jeremiah is speaking to the Jews that have now settled within Egypt. So Jeremiah chapter 42 and 43, they're still in Jerusalem. They've just killed Gedaliah. Jeremiah 44, the narrative or the plot has moved forward just a little bit, and he is now speaking to Jews that are settling within Egypt. And then Jeremiah chapter 45, we're back in the past. All right, so buckle up, okay? Because we're back in 605 BC again. So we're going to go from 586 all the way to 605 BC. And so it's another one of those moments where, if you're anything like my wife, when she watches movies where somebody had a flashback to, she gets a little. She just gets a little confused. She's like, was that the past? Is that the present? Especially when me and her watch Inception together, she's like, was that a dream? Was it reality? I don't know. And to me, I'm like, I know exactly, you know, what. What the dream scenes are versus the reality scenes are. And so my job is to do that same thing for you, to help you to know what is 586bc what 605bc so that you're not experiencing whiplash as you read through the book of Jeremiah. All right? Also, Jeremiah chapter 45 is a big shout out to my man Baruch. Back in, I think it was chapter 36, we kind of saw how he dictated all the words that Jeremiah prophesied that it was God's idea to write this stuff down. Jeremiah was just out here just prophesying, not writing nothing down, no notes, freestyling Jay Z in the booth. Okay? Jeremiah is just. Just freestyle and just prophesying. Everything's just auditory. And it is a man by the name of Baruch that actually becomes the scribe that writes down the words of Yahweh spoken through Jeremiah. And so chapter 45 is going to be a big shout out to. To the big homie Baruch. And, you know, you know, you got. You got to show some love for Baruch. You know, there's a phrase that I love, and I think, you know, this is not our timeless truth for the day, but I think it's good that we're shouting out Baruch for a whole chapter. Because church, even today, church ministry is not built on the gifts of a few, but on the sacrifice of many. Okay? Church ministry, the kingdom of God is not built on the gifts of a few. Some churches do try to build their whole church on the gifts of a few, man. We got an anointed worship leader, we got a killer preacher. But the churches are not built on the gifts of the few, but on the sacrifices of the many. That you may not be as gifted, but guess what? I've been a part of a church for the last couple years, and we're mobile. And there's a team that wakes up at 4 o' clock in the morning. They're at a storage unit. By 5, they're unloading chairs, they're getting chairs set up, they're getting an LED screen set up. Whatever venue we've been at in the city of Dallas over the last couple of years, that crew is there unloading a box truck, getting it done. And so when I look at a Sunday morning and maybe Pastor Robert or Pastor Taylor or myself or somebody else is holding a mic, preaching, it'd be easy to think, oh, yeah, church is built on the gifts of a few, but it's not. It's built on the sacrifices of the many. And so I love the fact there's a whole chapter dedicated to the big homie Baruch. Because, of course, it's Jeremiah who's prophesying, Jeremiah who's hearing from the Lord, Jeremiah who is going through persecution. And no one's downplaying the price that Jeremiah's paid to be the prophet that God's called him to be. But without Baruch, we wouldn't know about it. Without Baruch, we wouldn't have a written account. Without Baruch, it wouldn't get written down. So that's what chapter 45 is all about. All right, let's dive into some nerdy nuggets. Okay, Jeremiah, chapter 42 is tragically hilarious, but it's ridiculous. Like, it's. It's. It's one of those moments of I gotta laugh so I don't cry, bro, because this is absolutely ridiculous. Okay, so chapter 42, I'll just kind of summarize. The whole story pretty much goes like this. The people say to Jeremiah. Oh no. We killed the governor. Jeremiah, we are thinking of running away to Egypt. Can you ask Yahweh if this is a good idea? Ok, so the people have murdered a man. Murdered. They have murdered Gedaliah, the governor. Okay. Hey. Oh, no. Oh, no. We killed the governor. Jeremiah, we're thinking about running away to Egypt because we're scared of Nebuchadnezzar. Could you maybe ask Yahweh, like, if, if. If he thinks this is a good idea?
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Jeremiah responds, says, I got you.
Dr. Manny Arango
I'll ask Yahweh. Yahweh, that's a terrible idea. Yahweh answers clearly, bad idea. First of all, you shouldn't have killed Gedaliah. Second of all, you definitely shouldn't be running away from Nebuchadnezzar. This is a bad idea.
Baruch
Okay, get this. Verse 7 of chapter 42. Ten days later, the word of the Lord came to Jeremiah.
Dr. Manny Arango
So he called together, you know, the.
Baruch
Army officers who were with him and the people, least of the greatest, and said to them, this is what the.
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Lord, the God of Israel, to whom.
Baruch
You sent me to present your petition, says. If you stay in this land, I will build you up and not tear you down. I. I will plant you and not uproot you, for I have relented concerning the disaster I've inflicted on you. Do not be afraid of the king of Babylon whom you now fear. Do not be afraid of him, declares the Lord, for I am with you and will save you and deliver you from his hands. I will show you compassion so that he will have compassion on you and.
Dr. Manny Arango
Restore you to your land, like verse 13.
Baruch
However, if you say we will not stay in this land and so disobey the Lord your God, and if you say no, we will go live in Egypt, where we will not see war or hear the trumpet or be hungry for bread, then hear the word of the Lord, you remnant of Judah. This is what the Lord Almighty, the God of Israel, says. If you are determined to go to Egypt and do not go settle there, then the sword you fear will overtake you there, and the famine you dread.
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Will follow you into Egypt and. And there you will die. Indeed, all who are determined to go to Egypt to settle there will die.
Baruch
By the sword, famine and plague. Not one of them will survive or escape the disaster I will bring on them. This is what the Lord Almighty, the God of Israel, says.
Dr. Manny Arango
Pretty clear. Jeremiah got a pretty clear answer from Yahweh. Let's just think about this. The people are like, yo Jay, yo Jay, yo, we. We killed. We killed Gedaliah. Yo, our bad. We didn't mean to kill him, but we. We killed. We killed. We killed the governor that Nebuchadnezzar set up. We scared because, dude, that was just here three months ago. Nebuchadnezzar, good old Nebby nebs. Like, homeboy, he's intense, and we think he's probably going to kill us because we killed Governor Gedaliah. Could you maybe, like, ask Yahweh real quick if it's cool if we go to Egypt? Jeremiah's like, bet, I got you. Don't stress. I can ask Yahweh for you real quick. Jeremiah gets a word from the Lord. Hey, if you stay here, Nebuchadnezzar is going to have compassion on you. If you run away to Egypt, you gonna die. You gonna die. It's not gonna end well. This is gonna be bad. Famine, plague, sword. You gonna die. Here's what the people respond with. Okay, well, in that case, we're going to go to Egypt and we're taking you with us. And so they kidnap Jeremiah and take him to Egypt against his will. Talk about a curveball. Just like. Yeah, all right, so you don't. You don't. So you're saying God don't want us to go. Okay, cool.
Baruch
We're going to kidnap you, and we going to go. We are all going to go. So that is what happens. That is chapter 42 and chapter 43.
Dr. Manny Arango
And now Jeremiah is in Egypt against his will. That is absolutely hilarious, but 100% ridiculous and sad and all the negative words. But at the end of the day, to keep from crying, sometimes you got to laugh. Like, yo, talk about absolutely ridiculous. All right, which leads us into Jeremiah, chapter 44. So now there are Jewish refugees who are living in Egypt who are worshiping the Queen of Heaven. Air quotes. Or better referred to as Ishtar. Ishtar was a Babylonian fertility goddess who was often worshiped using cakes made in her image.
Baruch
This is chapter 44, verse 19. I'll just read verse 19 for you. It says the women added, when we burn incense to the queen of heaven and poured out drink offerings to her, did not our husbands know that we were making cakes, impressed with her image, and pouring out drink offerings to her? Then Jeremiah said to all the people, both men and women, who were answering him, did not the Lord remember and call to mind the incense burned in the towns of Judah and the streets of Jerusalem by you and your ancestors, your kings, your officials, and the people of the land, when The Lord could no longer endure your wicked actions, nor the detestable things you did. Your land became a curse and a desolate waste without inhabitants, as it is today. Because you have burned incense and have sinned against the Lord and have not obeyed him and follow his laws and his decrees or stipulations. This disaster has come upon you as you now see.
Dr. Manny Arango
Okay, so haven't we learned our lesson? Like, what are we talking about? So Jeremiah chapter 44 is all about idolatry. It seems that they believed that the disaster had come upon Jerusalem because they had stopped worshiping her. Okay, so these people believe that Jerusalem has been destroyed because they stopped worshiping Ishtar. She was also a goddess of war. Here, though Jeremiah reminds them of the real reasons Jerusalem fell. Because people were doing things like worshiping Ishtar. No, yo, at this point, there's a brain scrambler that they have. Like they are hearing words and scrambling it into something that only makes sense to them. Ok, what do you mean you think Jerusalem fell because you stopped worshiping the goddess Ishtar? Nah, homie, Jerusalem fell because you were worshiping Ishtar. Okay, so Jeremiah tries to make this very, very clear to them. Yahweh was still watching them. And if he destroyed his own house in the land of Jerusalem in judgment, he could certainly do it again in the foreign land of Egypt. So just because you're in Egypt doesn't mean you're away from God. Please be real, like be loyal. If you are to learn a lesson from this entire ordeal with Nebuchadnezzar in Babylon, the lesson should not be, yeah, we forgot to worship Ishtar and that's why Jerusalem fell. No, it should be. You were worshiping Ishtar and that's why Jerusalem fell. Okay, so that's chapter 44 and then chapter 45. This chapter is basically a shout out to the untold unsung hero behind the scenes hero of this book, Baruch, Jeremiah's faithful companion, supporter and scribe. The man who wrote down the words of Jeremiah, but publicly read them and then started all over again when they were burnt. In a sense, there are three authors of this book. Above all, these are the messages that Yahweh gave. So Yahweh's an author of the book. He gave them to Jeremiah the prophet. They are also messages shaped by the words of Jeremiah. His emotions, his struggles, his life, his artistic expression. But those words are also stories and recorded by the hand and imagination and skill of Baruch. And so when you encounter the book of Jeremiah, you are encountering the words of Yahweh spoken through Jeremiah, but captured and skillfully crafted by Baruch. And so there are three people who we're interacting with. Obviously Yahweh, but also Jeremiah and then lastly Baruch. And that's what chapter 45 is all about. Let's talk about our timeless truth for the day family. The wait is over. My brand new book, Crushing Chaos is.
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The people were afraid, so it was only natural to pray to Yahweh or at least get Jeremiah to pray to Yahweh. But it's clear that they had already had an answer in their own mind while they had sent Jeremiah to pray. So they send Jeremiah to pray. Say, hey, ask God what He thinks about maybe us going to Egypt. Jeremiah gets a clear word from the Lord, and what do the people do? They do what they had already decided to do. And this is not new. There are lots of people who pray, but they've already made up their minds about what they're going to do. And that is not the right way to pray. You should not pray about God, is this person somebody I should be dating, but secretly I've made up my mind that I'm going to continue dating them? Or God, is this person somebody that I should propose to? And then you praying, but really you've made up in your mind that you're already going to propose to them. God, should we break up our engagement? But you already made up in your mind that you're not going to break up the engagement. God, should we tithe? But you've already made up in your mind that you're not going to tithe. As a pastor, I actually deal with this a lot. People who want counsel, well, they say they want counsel, but quickly when you sit down with them, you. You realize they don't want counsel, they want confirmation. They want you to simply confirm that what they've already decided to do is a good idea. And a lot of pastors get treated like Jeremiah, hey, pastor, do you think I should do X? And pastor's like, nah, I don't think you should do that. That's a bad idea. And they go, okay, cool. And then they go, do X, which is a waste of your pastor's time. But more so, it's disrespectful to God. Like, why would you pray about something that you've already made up your mind on? And that is not just something that's relegated to the pages of history or these people here in Jeremiah, chapter 42 and 43. That is something that's true about the human nature, that's true about us, that a lot of the things that we.
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Pray for, we've already made up our.
Dr. Manny Arango
Mind on, and we're actually asking God for confirmation, not for counsel. And can I ask you, like, when you begin to pray, to say, lord God, like, make my selfish desires known to me and help me to put that on the altar first so that when I pray, I'm actually praying with a clean slate and you have the power to tell me what to do. One of the coolest things that I've.
Baruch
Ever done as a pastor is I've.
Dr. Manny Arango
Always counseled people to go through premarital counseling but before they buy an engagement ring. Because the goal of premarital counseling is not actually to help, you know how to be married.
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It's to break you up if you.
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Need to get broken up. And people really struggle with the idea of cutting off an engagement if they've already, you know, secured a venue and they've already put down payments on cakes and dresses and there's already a ring and you've already proposed. So I always tell people, hey, hey, hey, to save yourself any embarrassment that you may feel, just go through premarital counseling before you get engaged. Because I know even if people need to cut off an engagement, they won't. Because they don't typically come to pastors for counsel. They come for confirmation. They've already made up in their mind what they're gonna do. And you can see that right here In Jeremiah chapter 42 and 43, the people are praying, hey, Jeremiah, should we leave Jerusalem and go to Egypt? Nah, you shouldn't do that. Okay, cool. We taking you and we going to Egypt. Dang. And now me as the leader, I'm caught up in your disobedience to Yahweh. And I've seen a lot of pastors, a lot of leaders get caught up in people's disobedience. And we've got to do better. We've got to approach God with a clean slate and say, you know what, Lord, I'm not here to tell you my plans. I'm here to ask you, what are your plans for me? Same goes with a pastor. I'm not here to tell the pastor what my plans are. I'm here to ask the pastor, hey, like, could you help me make this decision for me in my personal life? I don't typically approach any pastor in my life with plans that I've already made. I approach them and I invite them to be a part of, of the decision making process. And because I've done that, they feel honored. They don't just feel honored. They are honored by the fact that I would invite them in, not just to a decision that's already been made, but I'm inviting them into the process because that's actually the proof that that person's my pastor. Not that I tell them a decision that I've already made, but that I would invite them into a decision making process. And I would say that's a healthier way to engage not just with God, but with the leaders that God's placed in our lives. Okay, that wraps up day two 24. Tomorrow we've got day two, 25. We're gonna be in Jeremiah chapters 46, 47, 48, and 49. We're getting towards the end of the book. I'll see you right here tomorrow as we continue our trek through the Book of Jeremiah. I love you so much. See you tomorrow. Peace. Thanks so much for joining us on the Bible Department Podcast.
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The Bible Dept. Podcast: Day 224 – Exploring Jeremiah 42-45
Hosted by Dr. Manny Arango, The Bible Dept. podcast offers a 365-day Bible reading plan designed to deepen your connection with Scripture. In Episode Day 224, released on August 12, 2025, Dr. Arango delves into Jeremiah chapters 42 to 45, unpacking the historical context, key themes, and timeless lessons relevant to today's believers.
In this episode, Dr. Manny Arango navigates through four pivotal chapters of the Book of Jeremiah—chapters 42 to 45. These chapters capture the tumultuous period following the fall of Jerusalem, focusing on the aftermath of Gedaliah's assassination, the community's desperate plea for guidance, their misguided attempt to flee to Egypt, and the introduction of Baruch, Jeremiah’s faithful scribe. Dr. Arango provides a comprehensive analysis, blending historical insights with practical applications for contemporary faith journeys.
Dr. Arango sets the stage by situating listeners in the aftermath of Jerusalem's fall in July 586 BC. The nation grapples with the immediate consequences of Gedaliah’s murder—an event that threatens to provoke further Babylonian wrath under King Nebuchadnezzar.
Dr. Manny Arango [00:26]: "Jeremiah, the big book. At the big book, we are in Jeremiah chapters 42, 43, 44, and 45."
He emphasizes the importance of understanding the historical and cultural backdrop to fully grasp the unfolding narrative, urging listeners to engage with the Scriptures directly alongside the podcast.
Chapters 42 and 43 depict the community's immediate crisis post-Gedaliah’s assassination. Faced with the looming threat of Nebuchadnezzar's retaliation, the people consult Jeremiah for divine guidance on whether to remain in the land or flee to Egypt.
Dr. Manny Arango [08:28]: "Ten days later, the word of the Lord came to Jeremiah."
Jeremiah delivers a clear message from Yahweh, advising against fleeing to Egypt and urging the people to stay and rebuild their lives under God's protection.
Jeremiah 42:7-13 (Dr. Arango paraphrase): "If you stay in this land, I will build you up and not tear you down... Do not be afraid of the king of Babylon... However, if you decide to go to Egypt, disaster will follow, and you will not survive."
Despite this divine counsel, the community chooses to disregard the warning. They kidnap Jeremiah, forcing him to accompany them to Egypt, thereby placing their fate in direct opposition to God's directive.
Dr. Manny Arango [11:44]: "They kidnap Jeremiah and take him to Egypt against his will. Talk about a curveball."
Moving to chapter 44, the narrative shifts to the Jewish exiles in Egypt who have succumbed to idolatry, specifically the worship of the Queen of Heaven (Ishtar). Despite their precarious situation, they rationalize Jerusalem's downfall by attributing it to a cessation of idol worship, a stark contrast to the real reason—the persistent idolatry that led to their downfall.
Dr. Manny Arango [12:26]: "This is chapter 44, verse 19... 'Did not our husbands know that we were making cakes, impressed with her image, and pouring out drink offerings to her?'"
Jeremiah vehemently rebukes their misplaced theology, reiterating that their true transgressions lie in their continued idolatry, not in neglecting to worship foreign deities.
Dr. Manny Arango [13:20]: "Jerusalem fell because you were worshiping Ishtar... If you're in Egypt, it doesn't mean you're away from God. Please be real, be loyal."
Chapter 45 serves as a tribute to Baruch, Jeremiah’s loyal scribe who plays a crucial role in preserving the prophet’s messages. Dr. Arango highlights the collaborative nature of the biblical narrative, acknowledging the collective effort behind the written word of Jeremiah.
Dr. Manny Arango [15:00]: "Chapter 45 is a big shout out to the untold, unsung hero behind the scenes—Baruch."
He underscores the importance of recognizing the contributions of individuals like Baruch, whose dedication ensures that prophetic words are faithfully recorded and transmitted through generations.
Dr. Arango introduces a humorous yet insightful segment, "Nerdy Nuggets," where he discusses the irrationality of seeking divine confirmation for decisions already made. Drawing parallels between the biblical account and modern scenarios, he cautions against the temptation to use prayer as a means to validate predetermined choices.
Dr. Manny Arango [16:11]: "The people are saying, 'Should we go to Egypt?' Despite having already decided, they seek Jeremiah’s confirmation."
He relates this to common situations, such as individuals seeking pastors' opinions merely to affirm their own decisions rather than genuinely seeking guidance.
The episode culminates in a profound "Timeless Truth" segment where Dr. Arango encourages listeners to approach God and spiritual leaders with openness and humility. He emphasizes the importance of surrendering personal biases and genuinely seeking divine counsel.
Dr. Manny Arango [20:28]: "When you begin to pray, say, 'Lord God, make my selfish desires known to me and help me to put that on the altar first so that when I pray, I’m actually praying with a clean slate.'"
He advocates for involving spiritual leaders in the decision-making process not for validation but for genuine counsel, fostering healthier relationships and deeper spiritual growth.
Historical Context is Crucial: Understanding the backdrop of Jerusalem's fall and the political climate of 586 BC enriches the comprehension of Jeremiah's prophecies.
The Dangers of Idolatry: The exiles in Egypt serve as a stark reminder of the consequences of turning away from true worship, highlighting the enduring relevance of faithfulness.
Collaborative Authorship: Recognizing Baruch's role underscores the collective effort in preserving and conveying divine messages.
Authentic Spiritual Engagement: True prayer and counsel require an open heart and a willingness to seek guidance beyond personal agendas.
Dr. Manny Arango's exploration of Jeremiah chapters 42-45 offers listeners a blend of historical insight, theological reflection, and practical application. By dissecting the complexities of post-exilic Judah and the challenges of maintaining faith amidst adversity, the episode provides valuable lessons for modern believers striving to navigate their spiritual journeys with authenticity and devotion.
Join Dr. Arango on the next episode of The Bible Dept. as he continues his in-depth study of the Book of Jeremiah, uncovering more layers of wisdom and revelation for a transformative Bible reading experience.