Day 324: Job 38-39 - The Bible Dept.

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Dr. Manny Arango
Hey, Bible nerds. This is Dr. Manny Arango and I'm your host for the Bible department podcast powered by Arma. This podcast follows a Bible reading plan we created to help you read the entire Bible in a year. You can head to the show notes or thebibledepartment.com to download our reading plan and join the Journey. Family. Welcome to day 324. I'm super, super excited. I've been waiting for this day for a long time. Yahweh is finally responding to Job. Okay, like, I know that in an Eastern worldview, the chiasm is the center most point, which in the book of job is chapter 28. And I know that that's like the key, right? Like the climax. But I don't care what nobody say when God starts talking and he sets the record straight. These are some of my favorite chapters in the entire Bible. A God is just gangster in how he responds to Job. But moreover, like, what Yahweh has to say is just way more important than anything that Job has to say. Definitely what his foolish friends have to say, definitely what Elihu has to say, and definitely what the, the Satan character, the accuser, the opposer has to say. Yahweh is going to, I mean, like, set the record straight. And I just think these couple of chapters of Job are epic. So Yahweh's response is going to get split into two speeches. All right, we're going to look at one of those speeches today and we're going to look at the second speech tomorrow. So I just want you to get pumped up, okay? Today and tomorrow we are looking at Yahweh's response to Job. Obviously, the friends are in earshot and the friends are gonna be a part of just what God has to say in response to all of these dialogues that we have been reading throughout the book of Job. So chapters 38 and 39 would be considered God's first speech. And at the end of God's first speech, Job is like, I'm sorry, bruh, my bad. Let me stop talking. Clearly I don't know nothing. Okay? Clearly I'm ignorant. But for God, ignorance and humility is not enough. Remember, that's just the beginning of wisdom. By the time we get to the end of chapter 39, job is at the fear of the Lord. But that's just the beginning of wisdom. Then chapters 40, this would be Job's second speech that Job hears from Yahweh. Yahweh's gonna start talking again. Speech number two in chapter 40. And we're gonna get that second speech all through chapter 40 and 41. And the conclusion of the second speech is not ignorance. It's not the fear of the Lord, the awe of Yahweh, and the acknowledgment that, hey, man, you're big, I'm small. My bad. It's actually Job is going to learn something powerful about God. He's going to actually get some information. So if there was a kind of trajectory here. All right, I want you to think about the trajectory from innocence to ignorance to information. Kate. Innocence, ignorance, information. Okay. For most of the book of Job, Job has been arguing his innocence. I'm innocent, I'm innocent, I'm innocent. And then God is gonna speak chapters 38 and 39. And Job's finally gonna get to a place of, I'm ignorant. I should not have challenged you. Like, I mean, I am humbled, which. The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom. And it's going to take Yahweh two chapters to get Job to a place of. Instead of fighting for my innocence, I really should just be claiming, I'm ignorant, man. I don't know enough. I don't know anything. And then in chapters 40 and 41, Yahweh's actually going to reveal some information.
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Kate
To Job so that he won't just be at the beginning of wisdom, but.
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Dr. Manny Arango
That he can actually be on the path of wisdom, beginning to know the Lord. Okay? So I just want to give that to you as a mind map. All right? I typically say this way sooner in the episode, but I'm pumped today. And if you didn't read chapters 38 and 39, I mean, you are literally missing out. This is like, some of the best content, like, some of the best stuff God says in the entire Bible. Pretty baller. All right, if you have not done the reading for the day, stop the video, pause the audio, get outta here. Go get the reading done. It's beautiful. Not only is it poetic, it is challenging. It's all kinds of stuff. I mean, golly peak. Like, Bible. This is chef's kiss, job. 38 and 39. All right, finally, God is going to talk. And I mean, he's quite literally just going to put Job in his place. Okay, Starts out with this. Who is this? That obscures my plans with words without knowledge. Like, immediately, you got a lot of words, but you have no knowledge. Brace yourself like a man.
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Kate
Ooh.
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Dr. Manny Arango
When God starts saying, brace yourself like a man, it's like, I'm scared. Okay? I'm nervous. And then verse four. Where were you when I laid the earth's foundations? Tell me if you understand, who marked off its dimension? Surely you know, you could hear the sarcasm, man. You know, since you know everything, since you're so innocent, since you are claiming that I'm not just. And since you and your friends have made claims about how the world works, since you know how the world works, let's talk about the world. Let's see how much you know about the cosmos, about the universe. And I mean, we get a couple questions in, and you start to get what Yahweh is saying. I mean, these questions are not questions, they are statements. And Yahweh says, who marked off its dimensions? Surely you know who stretched a measuring line across it? On what were its footing set? Or who laid its cornerstone while the morning stars sang together and all the angels shouted for joy? Who shut up the sea behind doors? Then it burst forth from the womb when I made the clouds its garment and wrapped it in thick darkness When I fixed limits for it and set its doors and bars in place, When I said, this far you may come and no further, here's where your proud ways halt. Have you ever given orders to the morning? Have you ever given orders to the morning? What a baller question to ask somebody. Have you ever given orders to the morning? Or shown the dawn its place? Like have you in verse 16, have you journeyed to the springs of the sea or walked in the recess of the deep? Have the gates of death been shown to you? Verse 18. Have you comprehended the vast expanse of the earth? Tell me if you know all this. 19. What is the way to the abode of light? Yahweh knows what he's doing. He's essentially getting Job to realize, oh, gosh, I just don't have enough information. I am ignorant. I am ignorant. Clearly God is informed. Clearly I am not. And this is the beginning of wisdom. You know, when you're talking to a wise person, because wise people are genuinely humble. They're genuinely like, yeah, man, I don't know. There's a lot I don't know. And so, all right, let me kind of dive into context clues, nerdy nuggets, Thomas Truth. Okay, I'm super, super excited, but I don't want the format of the episode to get lost. All right, so here's just an introductory thought. Okay? Yahweh is not concerned with Job's innocence or his own sense of justice. That's the first thing. I think we just got to observe at no point in chapters 38 or 39 does God actually respond to, like, what Job has asked, like. So the things on the docket to respond to have been Job's innocence, to which Yahweh says nothing about that. Not important to the Lord. Second is his own justice. Also not important. But there's something that God wants to desperately communicate to Job and his friends. And I think I've got an interpretive key to help us understand what is that idea. But in order to understand it, we need context. All right, so, by the way, the COVID of this book is literally based on these chapters that we're about to dive into. Specifically chapter 41.
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Kate
Okay? Where God begins to describe a creature named Leviathan. Leviathan, pictured here on the COVID of my latest book, Crushing chaos.
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Dr. Manny Arango
So the subtitle of this book is calm your storms, order your life, find your peace. Now, when I wrote this book, the dominant freedom framework for this book is kind of, there's chaos and there's order, and chaos and order are at odds with each other. Now, I didn't want this book to be too complex or too convoluted. It's already nerdy enough.
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Kate
If you haven't got a copy of this book, you.
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Dr. Manny Arango
You should.
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Kate
Okay, we'll make sure there's a link.
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Dr. Manny Arango
In the description of this.
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Kate
Of today's episode so that you can grab a copy of this book.
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Dr. Manny Arango
It's an incredible book. I know it may seem like I'm biased, but I promise you, objectively solid book. All right? Now, when I wrote this book, I knew that there are actually three categories and not just two.
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Kate
But I just didn't want the book.
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Dr. Manny Arango
To be too complex or too convoluted. So I stuck to a twofold system. Chaos and order. However, in the ancient world, there are actually three kinds of existence. Okay? There's order, there's non order, and there's disorder. I want you to wrap your mind around that. Okay? Order, non order, and disorder. So let's kind of map out what those three would be. Order. We get order in, you know, Genesis chapter two, right? Like, by the end of day seven, creation has been ordered. The garden of Eden is ordered. Okay, what is non order? Non order is a space that is ready to be ordered. So let's think about it this way. There have been multiple times in my life where I've moved right from one house to another house. And when you are packing things up to move to a different house, and all of your things at your new house are in boxes, okay? That's not disorder, but that is non order, okay? It's going to require that you take the time to unpack everything and put it in its place. That's non order, okay? So order and non order. Then there's disorder, which is like the unevil force that has ill intent that wants to drag order and non order back into dysfunction. Okay? This is really disorder. And what I did in the book is essentially what I. What I did is instead of creating order, non order and disorder as three separate categories, I just created order and chaos. And I essentially made non order and disorder all fall under the umbrella of chaos. Now, here's what's just not fair is that in the ancient world, order, non order, and disorder are three distinct things. And here's the assumption that Job and his friends are living from. They believe that when there is non order, okay, non order, that non order like suffering, or non order, like what Job has experienced, that that stuff is the result of disorder, meaning I sinned, I did something sinful. And therefore, because of disorder, now non order is present, okay? That is the assumption that Job and his friends have been operating with. And what Yahweh is saying is that. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Even in the realms of non order, there's order. Which means when we go back to the triangle and we look at God's justice, Job's innocence, and the policies and procedures whereby God rules the planet and does he rule the earth with strict justice, retribution and reward policy, God is actually going, no, the non order that you are experiencing is not the result of disorder. Life is not that simple. So what God is actually doing in these speeches is giving Job a tour of the universe and essentially showing him that there are realms that him and his friends would describe as non ordered realms, as the kind of places that kind of feel like the beginning of Genesis, chapter one, verse one. The earth is formless and void. It's the tohu vavohu. It's the deep. And what does God do to that non order? That's not disorder. That's non order in Genesis 1. But God then brings order, okay? And for a lot of us, me creating three categories instead of two is gonna bring confusion. But honestly, it should bring clarity. Because if we're family, the wait is over. My brand new book, Crushing Chaos is out now and available everywhere. Books are sold. Literally. Today I walked into a Barnes and Noble and I signed a bunch of copies at a physical location. So you can grab this book at a physical Barnes and Noble or you can go to a books A million. Or Amazon or anywhere books are sold.
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Kate
And grab a copy.
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Dr. Manny Arango
If you enjoy reading the Bible from an ancient perspective, if you understand that the beauty of Scripture is actually knowing it in context, then you'll love this book. And if there's any chaos in your personal life, I think that reading the Bible from an ancient perspective can actually help to crush the chaos in your life. I think this book is going to be a New York Times bestseller. I really do.
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Kate
I think we wrote a good one.
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Dr. Manny Arango
I think you should get a copy today. All right, back to the episode Honest about our own life. There are non threatening forms of chaos and then there are threatening forms of chaos. All chaos isn't the same, right? And so I want to create a space where we a enter into the ancient worldview of order, non order, disorder, and kind of help us to see that these friends think that all non order is a result of disorder. But God, through showing what happens in nature, is actually gonna reveal to Job and his friends that, nope, my order can actually be found in the realms of non order. And that would have been the curveball for Job and all of his friends. Let's actually look at one of the verses that is literally doing this. Okay, now we're gonna. That's our context. That's a theological context that we need in order to understand what's in Job chapter 38 and 39. Now, now that we have that context, we can then come to the conclusion that what Yahweh is gonna reveal in Job chapter 38 and 39 is that it is not a retribution reward policy. That is the third leg of this triangle. What's actually here is that the Earth is not founded on justice, but on wisdom. Hokma wisdom that in order to govern the universe, it is not just a hey, all non order is a result of disorder. No, no, no, no, no, no. But there's a complex relationship between order, non order and disorder. And because of that complex relationship, the thing that fuels the relationship between non order disorder and order is not justice or retribution and reward, but rather wisdom. That this system is fueled by wisdom, not justice. Therefore, the triangle that the friends have been trying to figure out is inherently flawed. Now let's move into our nerdy nuggets.
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Kate
All right?
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Dr. Manny Arango
God is going to reveal that his order can be found in non ordered space. And he's actually going to do it in a quite fast, fascinating way. Let's look at the relationship between God's order, non order and disorder. The interpretive key here is found in Job, chapter 38, verse 25 to 26. Okay, here we go. This is what Yahweh says. He's saying, if you think that things just operate in the universe based on justice, riddle me this job. Okay, who cuts a channel for the torrents of rain? Now, rain is going to be seen in the ancient world as a part of God's retribution or reward. Okay, retribution. If people are evil and wicked, they get a flood, right? If people are blessed or if people are wise and they follow Torah, what happens? God sends rain so they can have crops so there's no famine or drought. Okay? So rain literally is an example of retribution and reward. And God is saying, if I only operated the rain according to retribution and reward. Riddle me this. Who cuts a channel for the torrents of rain and a path for the thunderstorm? Verse 26. To water a land where no one lives, an uninhabited desert, A job and your friends who are in earshot. If I manage the universe based on reward and retribution, why do I send rain to the desert where it's not even useful? Why do I do that? I do that because the world that we live in is more complicated than you know. And the relationship between order, non order and disorder is not as neat and tidy as you think. You think that all non orders is a result of disorder. And I'm here to tell you right now, there is an order even to the realms of non order in the cosmos. So what we are going to see in chapters 38 and 39 is that Yahweh is going to give Job seven realms of the of the geographical universe and then seven realms of the animal kingdom.
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Kate
Okay, so we're going to get two sets of seven. I'll give you the first set. Okay, the first set of seven is chapter 38, verses two to seven is.
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Dr. Manny Arango
The foundation of the earth. Does Job know how God began creation?
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Kate
Then job 38, 8, 11, the sea. Does God know how God contains the sea? Then 38, 12 Sheol, has job ever seen or know the place of the dead? Then number four, job 38, 22, 24, snow and hail. Has Job seen where God stores the snow and the hail? And then Job, chapter 38, verse 25 to 30, rain. Does Job know how and why it rains?
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Dr. Manny Arango
We just looked at that just now.
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Kate
And then number six, the heavens. Could Job plant the constellations in the sky or know their course? And then number seven, Job, chapter 38, verses 34 to 38. The storm. Can Job control the storm and lightning?
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Dr. Manny Arango
So seven realms of just the geographical universe that Job has No idea how it works.
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Kate
And the big thing that Yahweh is.
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Dr. Manny Arango
Communicating is that these are realms that the ancient person would have seen as non order. And Yahweh is trying to show that these realms of non order are not fueled by disorder, but they're fueled by God's order. And that the relationship between order, non order and disorder are actually something that Job does not comprehend.
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Kate
This is above Job's pay grade. Okay, second is there's seven aspects of Yahweh's policies, his purpose, his plans in the animal world. Okay, so Job, chapter 38, verses 39, 41, the Lion. Can Job provide?
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Dr. Manny Arango
Pray for the lions.
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Kate
And then job 391 4, the mountain goat. Does Job know when the mountain goat gives birth? And then job 39, five, eight, the wild donkey. Did Job let the donkey run wild? Then job 39, 9, 12, the wild ox. Is the wild ox willing to serve Job? And then number five, job 39, 13, 18, the ostrich. Okay, could Job possibly understand why an ostrich is like it is? And then six job 39, 19, 25, the war horse. Did Job make the war horse so mighty? And then lastly seven. Okay, birds of prey, job 39 verses 26 to 30. Does job understand? Does Job's understanding make the hawk soar.
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Dr. Manny Arango
So seven two sets of seven, two sets of ordered lists that describe realms of non order that are not being fueled by disorder. This would have broken Job and his friends brains. But without context you don't really understand what's happening. All many of us realize is dang, Job got sunned like Job got humbled. But there's so much more happening than just Job getting humbled. He's actually moving from a place of needing to defend his in a sense to realizing maybe the suffering, AKA the non order that I've experienced is not the result of disorder.
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Kate
Maybe there's something about the universe and how it runs that I have made assumptions about and my assumptions are incorrect. Job is coming to the place of man.
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Dr. Manny Arango
Not. I shouldn't just be arguing for my.
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Kate
Innocence, but I should acknowledge my incorrectness.
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Dr. Manny Arango
And I should really realize that I'm ignorant. Now Job's response to all of this is, okay, let's flip to Job, the.
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Kate
End of Job 39.
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Dr. Manny Arango
Sorry, not Job 39, Job 40.
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Kate
It says this in verse 3.
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Dr. Manny Arango
Then Job answered the Lord, I am unworthy. How can I reply to you? I put my hand over my mouth.
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Kate
I spoke once, but I have no answer twice. But I will say no more.
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Dr. Manny Arango
Then the Lord spoke to Job, out.
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Kate
Of the storm, brace yourself like a man. I will question you, and you will answer me. God's not done. And so God's purpose is not just to get you to the place of. I'll shut up. Nope. Because what good does it do God if you just shut up for the rest of your life? God's goal is not just to sun you and humble you. It's actually to inform you and to fill you with wisdom so that you.
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Dr. Manny Arango
Can be his witness in all the earth. Like that's the goal. All right, so what's our Thomas truth for the day?
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Kate
Obviously, tomorrow we are going to get.
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Dr. Manny Arango
Into what is Yahweh's next move?
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Kate
Because man, Yahweh wants to fill Job with the kind of wisdom that Job could actually be a billboard for. God's wisdom, His Hokma, the thing that.
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Dr. Manny Arango
Actually runs the universe, not his justice. All right, let me leave you with the Thomas truth.
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Kate
There's this cool little verse, okay, where God is being described as so transcendent, but then it's like he knows where the mountain goats give birth at. This is a profound question. Okay? It says this. This is Job, chapter 39, verse 1. Do you know when the mountain goat gives birth? Do you observe the calving of the does? Okay, this is a profound question because it is such a small thing.
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Dr. Manny Arango
This is our timeless truth. Okay?
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Kate
This is not the creation of Orion, but the birth of a mountain goat. But where do mountain goats give birth? In the mountains, of course. I mean, duh. Okay, there are the. These are the goats that walk on the seemingly vertical cliffs. I don't know if you've ever seen these mountain goats. It's like, how in the world can they. Can they even live up here? They walk easily in places that humans cannot go. Mountain goats give birth in places inaccessible to humans, so no human could ever know when it happened, as they could not be there to witness it. And remember. The mountains are inhabitable for humans, which means it's not ordered space. Gardens are ordered space because that's where humans can live. But the mountains would be non order.
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Dr. Manny Arango
It's not disorder, but it's non order, okay?
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Kate
They walk easily in places humans cannot go. Mountain goats give birth in places inaccessible to humans, so no human could ever know when it happened, as they could not be there to witness it. So Job could not know this information. Yet Yahweh does. He does know when mountain goats give birth, he does witness it. This is telling us something unbelievable about God. The same God who created the constellations in the sky, the same God who created things like Orion and the Pleiades in the sky is present to witness the birth of a mountain goat. The transcendent, glorious creator God, who is far off, who is big, who is. Who is magnificent, to whom Job is nothing in comparison, believes that the birth of a goat in the mountains is a significant event that he should be there for. He's not just transcendent. He's intimate and he's close. He flings stars into space because he's big. But he also watches over goats being born and learn how to walk. Why? Because he's also intimately involved in the small details of life. He's glorious and transcendent. Job's friends were right about that. But they missed something that is just as vital in understanding God and his creation. He is also intimate. He's absent, but he is fully present. God cannot answer Job's complaints. Why? Because these complaints have nothing to do with God's great transcendence and his intimacy. God is essentially communicating to Job, my justice is not the only thing that there is to know about me. And my justice is not really the thing that fuels the universe. It's my wisdom. It's my Hokma. And if you wanna learn more about my wisdom, then keep listening, Job. Cause I have another speech for you.
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Dr. Manny Arango
And that's not just true for Job, it's true for us.
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Kate
We have to be intimately aware of the transcendent God that would cause us to be in awe, that we would worship.
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Dr. Manny Arango
That would get us to the point of.
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Kate
I'm scared of that God. He's big, I'm small. But also, that's the beginning of wisdom, not the end. The end of wisdom is to actually know this God. Not in a transcendent way, but in an intimate way. And that's true forever, universally and timelessly.
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Dr. Manny Arango
And with that, I commission you to live a blessed life today. But I'm also inviting you back for.
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Kate
Part two of this episode, which we'll pick up on tomorrow.
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Dr. Manny Arango
If you're on the streak, I'm proud of you. If you're not, I love you. Tomorrow's our last day in the Book of Job. And I think it's gonna be our best day in the book of Job.
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Kate
We're actually gonna talk about Leviathan tomorrow.
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Dr. Manny Arango
Ooh, I can't wait. Tomorrow, Job, chapter 40. 42 for day three, 25 here at the Bible department. I'll see you right here, same time.
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Kate
Same place, as we finish the book of Job.
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Dr. Manny Arango
Peace. Thanks so much for joining us.
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Kate
On the Bible Department podcast.
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Dr. Manny Arango
You can find us online and learn more about the show@thebibledepartment.com and on Instagram hebibledepartment. If you enjoyed this episode and wanna dive deeper into the Bible, you can get free access to our library of courses at thebibledepartment.
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Kate
Com. We'll see you back here tomorrow.

Summary6 min read

The Bible Dept. Podcast – Day 324: Job 38-39
Host: Dr. Manny Arango
Date: November 20, 2025

Overview: God Answers Job and Shifts the Conversation

In this highly anticipated episode, Dr. Manny Arango leads listeners through Job chapters 38 and 39—commonly known as “God’s first speech” in response to Job’s long-standing lament and questioning. Dr. Arango excitedly frames these chapters as among the most powerful in all of scripture, not simply because Yahweh finally interrupts the debate, but because His response fundamentally reframes the conversation away from innocence, guilt, and justice toward wisdom and God’s mysterious order.

“What Yahweh has to say is just way more important than anything that Job has to say … Yahweh is going to, I mean, like, set the record straight.” — Dr. Manny Arango (01:22)

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Structure of Yahweh’s Response (02:00–04:30)

God’s Response Comes in Two Speeches:
Dr. Arango clarifies that Yahweh’s reply is divided into two sections, with today’s episode covering the first speech (Job 38–39) and tomorrow’s episode covering the second (Job 40–41).
Trajectory: Innocence → Ignorance → Information:
Job’s journey is modeled as moving from defending his innocence, to recognizing his ignorance (after God’s interrogation), to ultimately receiving new information and wisdom.

“For most of the book of Job, Job has been arguing his innocence ... It is going to take Yahweh two chapters to get Job to a place of ... ‘I am ignorant. I don’t know anything.’” (03:38)

2. God’s “Gangster” Response: Questions as Statements (05:21–08:35)

Yahweh Challenges Job:
God’s barrage of rhetorical questions (e.g. “Where were you when I laid the earth’s foundations?”) isn’t to receive answers, but to put Job in his place, emphasizing the vast gulf between divine and human wisdom.

“You have a lot of words, but you have no knowledge. Brace yourself like a man.” (05:21)
The Function of the Questions:
God steers Job from focusing on innocence and justice, and instead exposes the limitations of Job’s knowledge about how the universe is run.

3. Ancient Worldview: Order, Non-order, Disorder (09:13–16:35)

Threefold Reality:
- Order: Where things are arranged, comprehensible, “garden of Eden” spaces.
- Non-order: Spaces not yet arranged but not necessarily evil (e.g., wilderness).
- Disorder: Forces actively working against order, often associated with evil or chaos.
Common Ancient Assumption:
Job and his friends equate every experience of chaos or suffering (“non-order”) with moral or spiritual disorder. But Dr. Arango insists the text undercuts this view.

“Even in the realms of non-order, there’s order ... the non-order that you are experiencing is not the result of disorder. Life is not that simple.” (13:27)
God’s Perspective:
Through the speech, Yahweh demonstrates that non-order is not necessarily the result of disorder or sin—it can exist within God’s grand, ordered creation.

4. “Nerdy Nuggets”: The Structure of God’s Speech (18:54–21:26)

A. Seven Geographical Realms (Job 38)

Foundations of the earth (v2–7)
The sea (v8–11)
Sheol / the realm of the dead (v12)
Snow and hail (v22–24)
Rain (v25–30)
The heavens and constellations (v31–33)
Storm and lightning (v34–38)

“Seven realms of just the geographical universe that Job has no idea how it works.” (19:47)

B. Seven Animal Kingdom Realms (Job 38:39–39:30)

The lion (38:39–41)
The mountain goat (39:1–4)
Wild donkey (39:5–8)
Wild ox (39:9–12)
Ostrich (39:13–18)
War horse (39:19–25)
Birds of prey (39:26–30)

Purpose of These Examples:
Each realm or creature lies outside human control—yet functions according to God’s design, blurring the line between order and non-order and challenging simple “reward and retribution” theology.

“These are realms that the ancient person would have seen as non-order. And Yahweh is showing that they’re not fueled by disorder—they’re fueled by God’s order.” (19:58)

5. A Universe Built on Wisdom, Not Justice (16:35–17:40)

The Critique of Job’s Framework:
Dr. Arango highlights that Job and his friends’ “justice triangle” (innocence–justice–retribution/reward) is flawed; it omits God’s Hokma, or wisdom, as the true foundation of creation.

“The Earth is not founded on justice, but on wisdom. Hokma—wisdom, that in order to govern the universe … the thing that fuels the relationship between non-order, disorder, and order is not justice ... but rather wisdom.” (16:42)

6. Notable Verse: God Cares for the Mountain Goats (23:48–26:53)

Job 39:1–2 — Highlighted as evidence of both God’s transcendence and his intimacy:
- God knows when mountain goats give birth—events inaccessible to humans, happening in wilderness where humans cannot witness them.
- This demonstrates that God is both exalted and deeply involved in small things.
“The transcendent, glorious creator God ... is present to witness the birth of a mountain goat. The same God who created the constellations in the sky ... is intimately involved in the small details of life.” (25:02)
Timeless Truth:
“He flings stars into space, but he also watches over goats being born.” (25:02)

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

On God’s Speech Tone:
“When God starts saying, ‘brace yourself like a man,’ it’s like, I’m scared, okay? I’m nervous.” (05:23)
On Wisdom as Humility:
“You know you’re talking to a wise person because wise people are genuinely humble. They’re genuinely like, ‘Yeah, man, I don’t know. There’s a lot I don’t know.’” (07:41)
On the Point of God’s Response:
“God’s goal is not just to sun you and humble you. It’s actually to inform you and fill you with wisdom so that you can be His witness in all the earth.” (23:21)

Timestamps for Key Segments

| Segment | Description | Time | |------------------|-----------------------------------------------------------------------|-----------| | Introduction | Dr. Arango’s excitement for God finally responding to Job | 00:00–02:00| | Big Trajectory | Innocence ➔ Ignorance ➔ Information in Job’s journey | 03:00–04:45| | God’s Questions | Highlights of Yahweh’s “gangster” rhetorical questions | 05:21–08:35| | Ancient Worldview| Explanation of order, non-order, disorder | 09:13–16:35| | Nerdy Nuggets | Two sets of sevens (cosmos & animals), structure of God’s speech | 18:54–21:26| | Job’s Response | Job confesses ignorance; learnings about humility, wisdom | 22:30–23:48| | Timeless Truth | God’s transcendence & intimacy—mountain goats | 23:48–26:53|

Timeless Takeaways

God’s Wisdom Exceeds Human Understanding:
Instead of giving Job neat answers, God’s speech demonstrates the universe isn’t run by simple formulas of justice, but by profound wisdom outside human reach.
God is Both Transcendent and Intimate:
The same God who commands the cosmos is attentive to hidden, humble moments—like mountain goats giving birth in inaccessible places.

“God is essentially communicating to Job, ‘My justice is not the only thing there is to know about me ... it’s my wisdom that fuels the universe.’” (25:46)

What’s Next?

Tomorrow’s episode will cover Yahweh’s second speech (Job 40–41), diving deeper into the concept of God’s wisdom—especially as represented by Leviathan.

“Tomorrow’s our last day in the book of Job. And I think it’s gonna be our best day in the book of Job. We’re actually gonna talk about Leviathan.” (27:33)

For deeper study:

Read Job 38-39 to appreciate the poetic force of God's questions.
Contemplate how your own assumptions about justice, suffering, and God’s ways might need challenging.

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[00:00]
Dr. Manny Arango
Hey, Bible nerds. This is Dr. Manny Arango and I'm your host for the Bible department podcast powered by Arma. This podcast follows a Bible reading plan we created to help you read the entire Bible in a year. You can head to the show notes or thebibledepartment.com to download our reading plan and join the Journey. Family. Welcome to day 324. I'm super, super excited. I've been waiting for this day for a long time. Yahweh is finally responding to Job. Okay, like, I know that in an Eastern worldview, the chiasm is the center most point, which in the book of job is chapter 28. And I know that that's like the key, right? Like the climax. But I don't care what nobody say when God starts talking and he sets the record straight. These are some of my favorite chapters in the entire Bible. A God is just gangster in how he responds to Job. But moreover, like, what Yahweh has to say is just way more important than anything that Job has to say. Definitely what his foolish friends have to say, definitely what Elihu has to say, and definitely what the, the Satan character, the accuser, the opposer has to say. Yahweh is going to, I mean, like, set the record straight. And I just think these couple of chapters of Job are epic. So Yahweh's response is going to get split into two speeches. All right, we're going to look at one of those speeches today and we're going to look at the second speech tomorrow. So I just want you to get pumped up, okay? Today and tomorrow we are looking at Yahweh's response to Job. Obviously, the friends are in earshot and the friends are gonna be a part of just what God has to say in response to all of these dialogues that we have been reading throughout the book of Job. So chapters 38 and 39 would be considered God's first speech. And at the end of God's first speech, Job is like, I'm sorry, bruh, my bad. Let me stop talking. Clearly I don't know nothing. Okay? Clearly I'm ignorant. But for God, ignorance and humility is not enough. Remember, that's just the beginning of wisdom. By the time we get to the end of chapter 39, job is at the fear of the Lord. But that's just the beginning of wisdom. Then chapters 40, this would be Job's second speech that Job hears from Yahweh. Yahweh's gonna start talking again. Speech number two in chapter 40. And we're gonna get that second speech all through chapter 40 and 41. And the conclusion of the second speech is not ignorance. It's not the fear of the Lord, the awe of Yahweh, and the acknowledgment that, hey, man, you're big, I'm small. My bad. It's actually Job is going to learn something powerful about God. He's going to actually get some information. So if there was a kind of trajectory here. All right, I want you to think about the trajectory from innocence to ignorance to information. Kate. Innocence, ignorance, information. Okay. For most of the book of Job, Job has been arguing his innocence. I'm innocent, I'm innocent, I'm innocent. And then God is gonna speak chapters 38 and 39. And Job's finally gonna get to a place of, I'm ignorant. I should not have challenged you. Like, I mean, I am humbled, which. The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom. And it's going to take Yahweh two chapters to get Job to a place of. Instead of fighting for my innocence, I really should just be claiming, I'm ignorant, man. I don't know enough. I don't know anything. And then in chapters 40 and 41, Yahweh's actually going to reveal some information.
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Kate
To Job so that he won't just be at the beginning of wisdom, but.
[04:19]
Dr. Manny Arango
That he can actually be on the path of wisdom, beginning to know the Lord. Okay? So I just want to give that to you as a mind map. All right? I typically say this way sooner in the episode, but I'm pumped today. And if you didn't read chapters 38 and 39, I mean, you are literally missing out. This is like, some of the best content, like, some of the best stuff God says in the entire Bible. Pretty baller. All right, if you have not done the reading for the day, stop the video, pause the audio, get outta here. Go get the reading done. It's beautiful. Not only is it poetic, it is challenging. It's all kinds of stuff. I mean, golly peak. Like, Bible. This is chef's kiss, job. 38 and 39. All right, finally, God is going to talk. And I mean, he's quite literally just going to put Job in his place. Okay, Starts out with this. Who is this? That obscures my plans with words without knowledge. Like, immediately, you got a lot of words, but you have no knowledge. Brace yourself like a man.
[05:22]
Kate
Ooh.
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Dr. Manny Arango
When God starts saying, brace yourself like a man, it's like, I'm scared. Okay? I'm nervous. And then verse four. Where were you when I laid the earth's foundations? Tell me if you understand, who marked off its dimension? Surely you know, you could hear the sarcasm, man. You know, since you know everything, since you're so innocent, since you are claiming that I'm not just. And since you and your friends have made claims about how the world works, since you know how the world works, let's talk about the world. Let's see how much you know about the cosmos, about the universe. And I mean, we get a couple questions in, and you start to get what Yahweh is saying. I mean, these questions are not questions, they are statements. And Yahweh says, who marked off its dimensions? Surely you know who stretched a measuring line across it? On what were its footing set? Or who laid its cornerstone while the morning stars sang together and all the angels shouted for joy? Who shut up the sea behind doors? Then it burst forth from the womb when I made the clouds its garment and wrapped it in thick darkness When I fixed limits for it and set its doors and bars in place, When I said, this far you may come and no further, here's where your proud ways halt. Have you ever given orders to the morning? Have you ever given orders to the morning? What a baller question to ask somebody. Have you ever given orders to the morning? Or shown the dawn its place? Like have you in verse 16, have you journeyed to the springs of the sea or walked in the recess of the deep? Have the gates of death been shown to you? Verse 18. Have you comprehended the vast expanse of the earth? Tell me if you know all this. 19. What is the way to the abode of light? Yahweh knows what he's doing. He's essentially getting Job to realize, oh, gosh, I just don't have enough information. I am ignorant. I am ignorant. Clearly God is informed. Clearly I am not. And this is the beginning of wisdom. You know, when you're talking to a wise person, because wise people are genuinely humble. They're genuinely like, yeah, man, I don't know. There's a lot I don't know. And so, all right, let me kind of dive into context clues, nerdy nuggets, Thomas Truth. Okay, I'm super, super excited, but I don't want the format of the episode to get lost. All right, so here's just an introductory thought. Okay? Yahweh is not concerned with Job's innocence or his own sense of justice. That's the first thing. I think we just got to observe at no point in chapters 38 or 39 does God actually respond to, like, what Job has asked, like. So the things on the docket to respond to have been Job's innocence, to which Yahweh says nothing about that. Not important to the Lord. Second is his own justice. Also not important. But there's something that God wants to desperately communicate to Job and his friends. And I think I've got an interpretive key to help us understand what is that idea. But in order to understand it, we need context. All right, so, by the way, the COVID of this book is literally based on these chapters that we're about to dive into. Specifically chapter 41.
[08:46]
Kate
Okay? Where God begins to describe a creature named Leviathan. Leviathan, pictured here on the COVID of my latest book, Crushing chaos.
[08:54]
Dr. Manny Arango
So the subtitle of this book is calm your storms, order your life, find your peace. Now, when I wrote this book, the dominant freedom framework for this book is kind of, there's chaos and there's order, and chaos and order are at odds with each other. Now, I didn't want this book to be too complex or too convoluted. It's already nerdy enough.
[09:14]
Kate
If you haven't got a copy of this book, you.
[09:16]
Dr. Manny Arango
You should.
[09:17]
Kate
Okay, we'll make sure there's a link.
[09:19]
Dr. Manny Arango
In the description of this.
[09:20]
Kate
Of today's episode so that you can grab a copy of this book.
[09:23]
Dr. Manny Arango
It's an incredible book. I know it may seem like I'm biased, but I promise you, objectively solid book. All right? Now, when I wrote this book, I knew that there are actually three categories and not just two.
[09:36]
Kate
But I just didn't want the book.
[09:37]
Dr. Manny Arango
To be too complex or too convoluted. So I stuck to a twofold system. Chaos and order. However, in the ancient world, there are actually three kinds of existence. Okay? There's order, there's non order, and there's disorder. I want you to wrap your mind around that. Okay? Order, non order, and disorder. So let's kind of map out what those three would be. Order. We get order in, you know, Genesis chapter two, right? Like, by the end of day seven, creation has been ordered. The garden of Eden is ordered. Okay, what is non order? Non order is a space that is ready to be ordered. So let's think about it this way. There have been multiple times in my life where I've moved right from one house to another house. And when you are packing things up to move to a different house, and all of your things at your new house are in boxes, okay? That's not disorder, but that is non order, okay? It's going to require that you take the time to unpack everything and put it in its place. That's non order, okay? So order and non order. Then there's disorder, which is like the unevil force that has ill intent that wants to drag order and non order back into dysfunction. Okay? This is really disorder. And what I did in the book is essentially what I. What I did is instead of creating order, non order and disorder as three separate categories, I just created order and chaos. And I essentially made non order and disorder all fall under the umbrella of chaos. Now, here's what's just not fair is that in the ancient world, order, non order, and disorder are three distinct things. And here's the assumption that Job and his friends are living from. They believe that when there is non order, okay, non order, that non order like suffering, or non order, like what Job has experienced, that that stuff is the result of disorder, meaning I sinned, I did something sinful. And therefore, because of disorder, now non order is present, okay? That is the assumption that Job and his friends have been operating with. And what Yahweh is saying is that. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Even in the realms of non order, there's order. Which means when we go back to the triangle and we look at God's justice, Job's innocence, and the policies and procedures whereby God rules the planet and does he rule the earth with strict justice, retribution and reward policy, God is actually going, no, the non order that you are experiencing is not the result of disorder. Life is not that simple. So what God is actually doing in these speeches is giving Job a tour of the universe and essentially showing him that there are realms that him and his friends would describe as non ordered realms, as the kind of places that kind of feel like the beginning of Genesis, chapter one, verse one. The earth is formless and void. It's the tohu vavohu. It's the deep. And what does God do to that non order? That's not disorder. That's non order in Genesis 1. But God then brings order, okay? And for a lot of us, me creating three categories instead of two is gonna bring confusion. But honestly, it should bring clarity. Because if we're family, the wait is over. My brand new book, Crushing Chaos is out now and available everywhere. Books are sold. Literally. Today I walked into a Barnes and Noble and I signed a bunch of copies at a physical location. So you can grab this book at a physical Barnes and Noble or you can go to a books A million. Or Amazon or anywhere books are sold.
[14:04]
Kate
And grab a copy.
[14:05]
Dr. Manny Arango
If you enjoy reading the Bible from an ancient perspective, if you understand that the beauty of Scripture is actually knowing it in context, then you'll love this book. And if there's any chaos in your personal life, I think that reading the Bible from an ancient perspective can actually help to crush the chaos in your life. I think this book is going to be a New York Times bestseller. I really do.
[14:30]
Kate
I think we wrote a good one.
[14:31]
Dr. Manny Arango
I think you should get a copy today. All right, back to the episode Honest about our own life. There are non threatening forms of chaos and then there are threatening forms of chaos. All chaos isn't the same, right? And so I want to create a space where we a enter into the ancient worldview of order, non order, disorder, and kind of help us to see that these friends think that all non order is a result of disorder. But God, through showing what happens in nature, is actually gonna reveal to Job and his friends that, nope, my order can actually be found in the realms of non order. And that would have been the curveball for Job and all of his friends. Let's actually look at one of the verses that is literally doing this. Okay, now we're gonna. That's our context. That's a theological context that we need in order to understand what's in Job chapter 38 and 39. Now, now that we have that context, we can then come to the conclusion that what Yahweh is gonna reveal in Job chapter 38 and 39 is that it is not a retribution reward policy. That is the third leg of this triangle. What's actually here is that the Earth is not founded on justice, but on wisdom. Hokma wisdom that in order to govern the universe, it is not just a hey, all non order is a result of disorder. No, no, no, no, no, no. But there's a complex relationship between order, non order and disorder. And because of that complex relationship, the thing that fuels the relationship between non order disorder and order is not justice or retribution and reward, but rather wisdom. That this system is fueled by wisdom, not justice. Therefore, the triangle that the friends have been trying to figure out is inherently flawed. Now let's move into our nerdy nuggets.
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Kate
All right?
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Dr. Manny Arango
God is going to reveal that his order can be found in non ordered space. And he's actually going to do it in a quite fast, fascinating way. Let's look at the relationship between God's order, non order and disorder. The interpretive key here is found in Job, chapter 38, verse 25 to 26. Okay, here we go. This is what Yahweh says. He's saying, if you think that things just operate in the universe based on justice, riddle me this job. Okay, who cuts a channel for the torrents of rain? Now, rain is going to be seen in the ancient world as a part of God's retribution or reward. Okay, retribution. If people are evil and wicked, they get a flood, right? If people are blessed or if people are wise and they follow Torah, what happens? God sends rain so they can have crops so there's no famine or drought. Okay? So rain literally is an example of retribution and reward. And God is saying, if I only operated the rain according to retribution and reward. Riddle me this. Who cuts a channel for the torrents of rain and a path for the thunderstorm? Verse 26. To water a land where no one lives, an uninhabited desert, A job and your friends who are in earshot. If I manage the universe based on reward and retribution, why do I send rain to the desert where it's not even useful? Why do I do that? I do that because the world that we live in is more complicated than you know. And the relationship between order, non order and disorder is not as neat and tidy as you think. You think that all non orders is a result of disorder. And I'm here to tell you right now, there is an order even to the realms of non order in the cosmos. So what we are going to see in chapters 38 and 39 is that Yahweh is going to give Job seven realms of the of the geographical universe and then seven realms of the animal kingdom.
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Kate
Okay, so we're going to get two sets of seven. I'll give you the first set. Okay, the first set of seven is chapter 38, verses two to seven is.
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Dr. Manny Arango
The foundation of the earth. Does Job know how God began creation?
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Kate
Then job 38, 8, 11, the sea. Does God know how God contains the sea? Then 38, 12 Sheol, has job ever seen or know the place of the dead? Then number four, job 38, 22, 24, snow and hail. Has Job seen where God stores the snow and the hail? And then Job, chapter 38, verse 25 to 30, rain. Does Job know how and why it rains?
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Dr. Manny Arango
We just looked at that just now.
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Kate
And then number six, the heavens. Could Job plant the constellations in the sky or know their course? And then number seven, Job, chapter 38, verses 34 to 38. The storm. Can Job control the storm and lightning?
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Dr. Manny Arango
So seven realms of just the geographical universe that Job has No idea how it works.
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Kate
And the big thing that Yahweh is.
[19:58]
Dr. Manny Arango
Communicating is that these are realms that the ancient person would have seen as non order. And Yahweh is trying to show that these realms of non order are not fueled by disorder, but they're fueled by God's order. And that the relationship between order, non order and disorder are actually something that Job does not comprehend.
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Kate
This is above Job's pay grade. Okay, second is there's seven aspects of Yahweh's policies, his purpose, his plans in the animal world. Okay, so Job, chapter 38, verses 39, 41, the Lion. Can Job provide?
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Dr. Manny Arango
Pray for the lions.
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Kate
And then job 391 4, the mountain goat. Does Job know when the mountain goat gives birth? And then job 39, five, eight, the wild donkey. Did Job let the donkey run wild? Then job 39, 9, 12, the wild ox. Is the wild ox willing to serve Job? And then number five, job 39, 13, 18, the ostrich. Okay, could Job possibly understand why an ostrich is like it is? And then six job 39, 19, 25, the war horse. Did Job make the war horse so mighty? And then lastly seven. Okay, birds of prey, job 39 verses 26 to 30. Does job understand? Does Job's understanding make the hawk soar.
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Dr. Manny Arango
So seven two sets of seven, two sets of ordered lists that describe realms of non order that are not being fueled by disorder. This would have broken Job and his friends brains. But without context you don't really understand what's happening. All many of us realize is dang, Job got sunned like Job got humbled. But there's so much more happening than just Job getting humbled. He's actually moving from a place of needing to defend his in a sense to realizing maybe the suffering, AKA the non order that I've experienced is not the result of disorder.
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Kate
Maybe there's something about the universe and how it runs that I have made assumptions about and my assumptions are incorrect. Job is coming to the place of man.
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Dr. Manny Arango
Not. I shouldn't just be arguing for my.
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Kate
Innocence, but I should acknowledge my incorrectness.
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Dr. Manny Arango
And I should really realize that I'm ignorant. Now Job's response to all of this is, okay, let's flip to Job, the.
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Kate
End of Job 39.
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Dr. Manny Arango
Sorry, not Job 39, Job 40.
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Kate
It says this in verse 3.
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Dr. Manny Arango
Then Job answered the Lord, I am unworthy. How can I reply to you? I put my hand over my mouth.
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Kate
I spoke once, but I have no answer twice. But I will say no more.
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Dr. Manny Arango
Then the Lord spoke to Job, out.
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Kate
Of the storm, brace yourself like a man. I will question you, and you will answer me. God's not done. And so God's purpose is not just to get you to the place of. I'll shut up. Nope. Because what good does it do God if you just shut up for the rest of your life? God's goal is not just to sun you and humble you. It's actually to inform you and to fill you with wisdom so that you.
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Dr. Manny Arango
Can be his witness in all the earth. Like that's the goal. All right, so what's our Thomas truth for the day?
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Kate
Obviously, tomorrow we are going to get.
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Dr. Manny Arango
Into what is Yahweh's next move?
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Kate
Because man, Yahweh wants to fill Job with the kind of wisdom that Job could actually be a billboard for. God's wisdom, His Hokma, the thing that.
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Dr. Manny Arango
Actually runs the universe, not his justice. All right, let me leave you with the Thomas truth.
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Kate
There's this cool little verse, okay, where God is being described as so transcendent, but then it's like he knows where the mountain goats give birth at. This is a profound question. Okay? It says this. This is Job, chapter 39, verse 1. Do you know when the mountain goat gives birth? Do you observe the calving of the does? Okay, this is a profound question because it is such a small thing.
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Dr. Manny Arango
This is our timeless truth. Okay?
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Kate
This is not the creation of Orion, but the birth of a mountain goat. But where do mountain goats give birth? In the mountains, of course. I mean, duh. Okay, there are the. These are the goats that walk on the seemingly vertical cliffs. I don't know if you've ever seen these mountain goats. It's like, how in the world can they. Can they even live up here? They walk easily in places that humans cannot go. Mountain goats give birth in places inaccessible to humans, so no human could ever know when it happened, as they could not be there to witness it. And remember. The mountains are inhabitable for humans, which means it's not ordered space. Gardens are ordered space because that's where humans can live. But the mountains would be non order.
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Dr. Manny Arango
It's not disorder, but it's non order, okay?
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Kate
They walk easily in places humans cannot go. Mountain goats give birth in places inaccessible to humans, so no human could ever know when it happened, as they could not be there to witness it. So Job could not know this information. Yet Yahweh does. He does know when mountain goats give birth, he does witness it. This is telling us something unbelievable about God. The same God who created the constellations in the sky, the same God who created things like Orion and the Pleiades in the sky is present to witness the birth of a mountain goat. The transcendent, glorious creator God, who is far off, who is big, who is. Who is magnificent, to whom Job is nothing in comparison, believes that the birth of a goat in the mountains is a significant event that he should be there for. He's not just transcendent. He's intimate and he's close. He flings stars into space because he's big. But he also watches over goats being born and learn how to walk. Why? Because he's also intimately involved in the small details of life. He's glorious and transcendent. Job's friends were right about that. But they missed something that is just as vital in understanding God and his creation. He is also intimate. He's absent, but he is fully present. God cannot answer Job's complaints. Why? Because these complaints have nothing to do with God's great transcendence and his intimacy. God is essentially communicating to Job, my justice is not the only thing that there is to know about me. And my justice is not really the thing that fuels the universe. It's my wisdom. It's my Hokma. And if you wanna learn more about my wisdom, then keep listening, Job. Cause I have another speech for you.
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Dr. Manny Arango
And that's not just true for Job, it's true for us.
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Kate
We have to be intimately aware of the transcendent God that would cause us to be in awe, that we would worship.
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Dr. Manny Arango
That would get us to the point of.
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Kate
I'm scared of that God. He's big, I'm small. But also, that's the beginning of wisdom, not the end. The end of wisdom is to actually know this God. Not in a transcendent way, but in an intimate way. And that's true forever, universally and timelessly.
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Dr. Manny Arango
And with that, I commission you to live a blessed life today. But I'm also inviting you back for.
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Kate
Part two of this episode, which we'll pick up on tomorrow.
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Dr. Manny Arango
If you're on the streak, I'm proud of you. If you're not, I love you. Tomorrow's our last day in the Book of Job. And I think it's gonna be our best day in the book of Job.
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Kate
We're actually gonna talk about Leviathan tomorrow.
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Dr. Manny Arango
Ooh, I can't wait. Tomorrow, Job, chapter 40. 42 for day three, 25 here at the Bible department. I'll see you right here, same time.
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Kate
Same place, as we finish the book of Job.
[27:47]
Dr. Manny Arango
Peace. Thanks so much for joining us.
[27:51]
Kate
On the Bible Department podcast.
[27:53]
Dr. Manny Arango
You can find us online and learn more about the show@thebibledepartment.com and on Instagram hebibledepartment. If you enjoyed this episode and wanna dive deeper into the Bible, you can get free access to our library of courses at thebibledepartment.
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Kate
Com. We'll see you back here tomorrow.