The 1988 Movie Draft

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Big Picture – "The 1988 Movie Draft"

Date: March 26, 2026
Hosts: Sean Fennessey, Amanda Dobbins
Guests: Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan
Theme: The 1988 Movie Draft – Revisiting and Drafting the Best Films of a Pivotal Movie Year

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Episode Overview

This episode of The Big Picture is a celebration and in-depth exploration of 1988 as a year in movies. Hosts Sean Fennessey and Amanda Dobbins are joined by Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan for one of their signature movie drafts, focusing on the films, stars, and cinematic trends that defined 1988. The group reflects on their personal experiences with movies from this era, discusses the evolving state of movie-going, and drafts the best films across a wide range of categories (drama, comedy, action, horror, thriller, Oscar nominees, sequels, blockbusters, and wild cards). The tone is lively, nostalgic, and deeply knowledgeable.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Setting the Stage: 1988 in Context

• Personal Movie Memories:
  • Guests recall their moviegoing habits in 1988—a time of renting VHS tapes, repeat viewings, and figuring out which movies to see in theaters (08:46).
  • Bill Simmons notes the decade's star power and theater attendance: “You wanted to go to the theater for [stars like Costner, Cruise, Stallone]. That’s been the problem this century. How many people do you want to see on screen?” (10:29)
• Cultural & Industry Landscape:
  • Unlike later years, 1988 didn’t have any film crack $200M at the US box office; movies were more evenly spread out, and the era focused on volume and variety rather than mega-hits (15:57, 16:47).
  • The year was rich in both major studio releases and the early rumblings of indie cinema, but wasn’t yet fully in the ‘Sundance moment’ (22:24).

Nostalgia, Movie Stars, and Cinematic Transitions

• A Transitional Hollywood:
  • The hosts discuss how 1988 is sandwiched between the dominance of 80s teen movies (which were fading) and the rise of blockbuster franchises and indie darlings that would soon take over (23:50).
  • “Almost none of them made their best movie this year… but the star power is incredible.” — Bill Simmons (20:36)
• Movie Stars at a Crossroads:
  • Several actors—Tom Hanks, Bruce Willis, Michelle Pfeiffer, Tom Cruise—delivered breakthrough or career-defining performances (22:00).
  • “Hanks was not Hanks until Big… Willis was on Moonlighting... then he has Die Hard. There’s like eight or nine of those in there.” — Simmons (22:00)

Reflections on Movie-Going, Box Office, and the Draft Mechanics

• Box Office Evolution:
  • 1988 was characterized by long-running movies (e.g., Rain Man), regular theatergoers, and a model based on doubling and steady attendance, not event-movie culture (18:04, 16:47).
• The Draft Structure:
  • Categories: Drama, Comedy, Action/Horror/Thriller, Oscar Nominee, Sequel, Blockbuster ($75M+), and Wild Card (24:45).
  • Oscar nomination could be from any category; Blockbuster threshold ensures only a handful of films qualify, raising stakes for that pick (25:03, 25:30).

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

On 1988’s Significance and Star Power

• “You wanted to go to the theater for [stars like Costner, Cruise, Stallone]. That’s been the problem this century—how many people do you want to see on screen?” – Bill Simmons (10:29)
• “The star power is incredible. Name a star from the 80s and 90s—they had a movie this year and it was probably a good movie.” – Bill Simmons (20:45)
• “This felt like a year where people were cementing their stardom. Even Hanks... Willis... De Niro doing comedy was huge!” – Simmons (22:00)
• Amanda on Michelle Pfeiffer: “This is Pfeiffer at the absolute peak of her powers.” (21:27)

Moviegoing Experience in the 1980s

• “I was a VHS kid… this was like the peak of going and renting two, three videos a day and coming home and then getting late charges and forgetting to rewind.” – Chris Ryan (08:54)
• “We knew what was coming out. I think Premiere magazine was already around at this point. There was just starting to be like some sense of the culture of it.” – Bill Simmons (10:29)

Movie Draft Banter and Strategy

• Amanda: “I have two picks. The first in comedy, I will take my passion pick, Working Girl... one of the great days in my professional life.” (41:22)
• Chris Ryan, picking Die Hard: “For a long time, I thought John McClane was the coolest person that had ever been born... the funniest guy, the guy who could bring down a ring of Germanic terrorists.” (31:08)
• Sean Fennessey: “Who Framed Roger Rabbit? Saw it in 1988. Cooked my noodle. Just changed my absolute brain for what I thought a movie could be.” (47:26)
• Bill on Midnight Run: “My favorite De Niro movie and performance ever. This movie was an absolute delight in the theater. It crushed.” (49:37)
• Amanda on Frantic: “This movie is so good and messed up... Harrison Ford being a little grimier than he needs to be.” (72:48)

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Movie Draft Segment Timestamps & Highlights

[31:03] Chris Ryan takes Die Hard (Blockbuster)

• “For a long time, I thought John McClane was the coolest person that had ever been born...” — C.R.

[34:52] Bill Simmons selects Rain Man (Oscar Nominee)

• “Maybe the first movie I think of when I think of 1988, our guy Dusty, he got a trophy... this was the Tom Cruise is now here in my life for the next 30 years movie.” — B.S.

[38:06] Sean Fennessey drafts Big (Blockbuster)

• “Who doesn’t love Big? Tom Hanks... makes you truly believe that he is a 10-year-old boy.” — S.F.

[41:22] Amanda Dobbins claims Working Girl (Comedy)

• “Probably top five rom coms for me even all time... the hottest Harrison Ford has ever been.” — A.D.

[42:55] Amanda nabs Coming to America (Box Office)

• “He’s very funny. I mean, this movie is very funny.” — A.D.

[39:44, 47:04] Sean picks Who Framed Roger Rabbit (Oscar Nominee)

• “[It] cooked my noodle. Just changed my absolute brain for what I thought a movie could be.” — S.F.

[49:24] Bill grabs Midnight Run (Comedy)

• “My favorite De Niro movie and performance ever... This movie was an absolute delight in the theater. It crushed.” — B.S.

[54:02] Chris takes Bull Durham (Comedy)

• “One of my most viewed movies, most rewatched movies... The Church of Baseball is open.” — C.R.

[59:08] Chris picks Married to the Mob (Oscar Nominee)

• “Michelle Pfeiffer is throwing 101 in this movie.” — C.R.

[61:08] Bill gets Cocktail (Blockbuster)

• “This is a top five Bill movie... Cruise is all in.” — A.D.
• “He’s treating this like Eyes Wide Shut... but it’s Cocktail!” — B.S.

[67:42] Sean selects Beetlejuice (Comedy)

• “Beetlejuice... is a creative masterpiece... Tim Burton cooking.” — S.F.

[70:04] Amanda selects Running on Empty (Drama)

• “This movie just knocked me out when I watched it last night again.” — A.D.

[72:13] Amanda takes Frantic (Action/Horror/Thriller)

• “This movie is so good and messed up.” — A.D.

[74:29] Sean picks They Live (Action/Horror/Thriller)

• “Portrait of a society enslaved by aliens... also a movie about Rowdy Roddy Piper beating the shit out of people.” — S.F.

[77:09] Bill selects Halloween 4 (Sequel)

• “It’s probably the last solid Halloween until H20.” — B.S.

[79:18] Chris picks Last Temptation of Christ (Drama)

• “An incredible snapshot of movie history just in terms of the controversy.” — C.R.

[81:26] Chris: Naked Gun (Wild Card)

• “Just a hysterical movie... still cracking me up so much.” — C.R.

[84:57] Bill: Dangerous Liaisons (Drama)

• “The ending, the last 10 minutes... Glenn Close and everything she does... Malkovich is throwing 135 miles an hour.” — B.S.

[91:29] Sean: Eight Men Out (Drama)

• “John Sayles, wonderfully embittered portrait of the Black Sox scandal... there’s a lot to chew on.” — S.F.

[94:47] Amanda: Women on the Verge of a Nervous Breakdown (Oscar Nominee)

• “This to me was a real... ‘Oh, movies can look like this.’” — A.D.

[96:59] Amanda: Crossing Delancey (Wild Card)

• “It’s really a romantic comedy set in New York in the late 1980s... illustrates what I thought New York was going to be like.” — A.D.

[99:41] Sean: A Fish Called Wanda (Wild Card)

• “I don’t think it has the legacy it did when I was a kid, but [Kevin Kline] won an Oscar for it.” — S.F.

[104:14] Bill: Bloodsport (Action/Horror/Thriller)

• “One of the great ideas ever for an action movie... the Kumite, one of the best villains...” — B.S.

[109:18] Chris: Young Guns (Action/Horror/Thriller)

• “To me, Young Guns was the best Western ever made. Probably the Western I may have seen the most in my life.” — C.R.

[111:52] Chris: Caddyshack 2 (Sequel)

• “One of the first times I saw Chevy Chase and I was like, that’s the funniest person I’ve ever seen.” — C.R.

[119:38] Amanda: Appointment with Death (Sequel)

• “It’s not that good... but I’m gonna read you the cast...” — A.D.

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Other Gems & Sidebars

• Modern Movie Tangents: The gang riffed on Matt Damon taking on The Odyssey for Christopher Nolan and the aging action hero dilemma (“hard to be an action hero after a certain point”). (05:19)
• Draft Tactics: There’s playful banter about personal picks versus board strength, “live your truth” energy, and everyone’s “passion picks.” (29:13–29:34)
• Film Preservation and 4Ks: The value of seeing vintage films on 4K for hidden details, like William Peterson’s nudity in To Live and Die in L.A. (53:08).
• Baseball Diversion: Some talk about opening day, team allegiances, and baseball movies—Bull Durham, Eight Men Out—reflecting the year’s themes. (54:31–56:11)
• Oscar Ceremony History: Jokes about the infamous 1988 Oscars, Rob Lowe and Snow White, and “turning point” in Academy showmanship. (27:01)

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Honorable Mentions and Regrets

• Honorable mentions discussed: Mystic Pizza, Masquerade, Tequila Sunrise, Maniac Cop, Willow, Twins, School Daze, Satisfaction, Serpent and the Rainbow, Punchline, The Accused, Bird, Stand and Deliver, Beaches, License to Drive, The Dead Pool, Colors, and more.
• The disappointment with “bad sequels” in 1988, a year where many franchises fizzled rather than soared (131:03).

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Closing Thoughts

• The group recognizes how each draft reflects not only cinema history but also their individual sensibilities and nostalgia.
• There is spirited debate about which draft lineups are strongest, with references to “picking with your heart” versus strategy.
• “Sometimes, you have to go with your heart like the kumite.” — Chris Ryan (134:08)
• They reiterate the distinctiveness of 1988 as a year defined by variety, movie stars at crossroads, and the beginning/end of several Hollywood eras.

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Recap: Drafted Teams (See [132:04] onward for full lists)

• Chris Ryan: Drama: Last Temptation of Christ | Comedy: Bull Durham | Action/Horror/Thriller: Young Guns | Oscar: Married to the Mob | Sequel: Caddyshack 2 | Blockbuster: Die Hard | Wild Card: Naked Gun
• Bill Simmons: Drama: Dangerous Liaisons | Action: Bloodsport | Oscar: Rain Man | Comedy: Midnight Run | Sequel: Halloween 4 | Blockbuster: Cocktail | Wild Card: Action Jackson
• Sean Fennessey: Drama: Eight Men Out | Comedy: Beetlejuice | Action: They Live | Oscar: Who Framed Roger Rabbit | Sequel: Decline of Western Civilization Part II | Blockbuster: Big | Wild Card: A Fish Called Wanda
• Amanda Dobbins: Drama: Running on Empty | Comedy: Working Girl | Action: Frantic | Oscar: Women on the Verge... | Sequel: Appointment With Death | Blockbuster: Coming to America | Wild Card: Crossing Delancey

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All in all, this episode is a rich, witty, and affectionate look back at a diverse, transitional year for movies, with sharp personal and cultural insight, great stories, and a true sense of why the movies of 1988 endure.

Transcript

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I'm Sean Fennessy.

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I'm Amanda Davins.

[B]

And this is the Big Picture 8 conversation show about 1988. We're in a new studio, but CR is here, so of course we must be drafting. And a special guest is here with us. We, Bill Simmons, when were you last on this show?

[C]

I don't know.

[B]

A year ago? I never asked. Well, you said to me. You said to me, I never. You never ask. About a week and a half ago, and I was thinking about it, and we were talking about 1988 as a movie draft. And I go down the list and I was like, a lot of Bill Simmons bangers in here. A lot of your stuff is in this year.

[C]

But my freshman year in college.

[B]

Hold on. I don't want to talk about that yet. Because you have a million movie opinions and some of which you're brave enough to share publicly, some of which you keep to yourself.

[C]

I share all of them. I don't keep anything to myself.

[D]

It all winds up.

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Makes me me.

[A]

You don't have anything to debut here.

[B]

Yeah. Like, did you prep any, like, modern movie stuff for us?

[C]

Oh, modern stuff?

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Well, you didn't tell me to.

[D]

Well, did you see Project Hail Mary?

[C]

I didn't see that yet. Okay. It's long. I saw that. It's like a commitment for me during like, the height of when I'm studying NBA and March Madness. It's like three and a half hours basically start to finish.

[A]

Is Hamnet still your number one film of 2025?

[C]

Wasn't my number one film. It was my number one performance.

[A]

Okay. I think that's fair.

[C]

Really appreciated it and liked it.

[D]

You're talking about the little kid, right?

[C]

Yeah.

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You've seen it yet? Oh, okay.

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Yeah.

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Did you cry?

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No.

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Wow.

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Definitely not.

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[C]

As always, the comedies always get. Always get swept under the rug at the Oscars, which I know is a big passion point of yours.

[B]

It is. Were there any big comedies in 25? Happy Gilmore 2?

[C]

None that I can remember.

[B]

Okay.

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Yeah. Kind of interesting. I thought it was a good movie year though. So it was, I think like an A minus. A lot of big directors, some good arguments, good for content.

[B]

It was.

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Yeah. We had a nice time.

[C]

My favorite movie was. Was probably Sinners, but I know that's minority opinion, but it was the one I saw the most times.

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I think it's only minority in the academy at this point. I feel like most people are pretty.

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How high up would F1 be for you?

[C]

I've seen it three times. I loved it in the theater. I understand why it didn't win the Oscar. I wasn't expecting it.

[B]

Were you. When that movie gets nominated for best picture, are you excited? Are you? Like hell yeah. This is what we need.

[C]

I thought we should have done seven. I think seven's the right number.

[B]

Seven films nominated for best film this

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year or every year.

[C]

I think nine's a little fats here.

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I do too. I think that there's a lot of sacred, like ceremonial sacrifices that just get thrown into biscuits.

[B]

The first one you would have cut this year was Sinners. The second one was what Value.

[D]

Way too focused on women. And I would have recut Hamnet and just made it about Paul Mescal.

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Yeah.

[D]

Yep.

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He should have been the one performing.

[D]

There should have been a male tech on F1. It shouldn't have been Kerry Condon. It should have been another guy. No, I think it was a really good movie year. And even. Even some films that weren't even nominated were some of my most beloved.

[C]

You know, one of the reasons it was a good movie year because we didn't have a two year pandemic and we were actually able to like make stuff again.

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But that was one thing outside.

[C]

Because if you look back at the, like when we. The first couple years of the ringer, like the. They were pretty good movie years. We had a lot of stuff to talk about.

[B]

I think the best one was the one right before COVID 19 was amazing,

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but also 2017 was Lady Bird and Get out and that was great. And yeah, 2017 and 2019 were amazing years.

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Yeah.

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So I think we're back.

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We're clawing back.

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But we had this next generation, these 18 to 22 year olds who've just been filming stuff with their phones since they were like 7 years old. These are going to be our next Scorsese's.

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Okay.

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Are they going to go to cinema or are they going to become influencers and content creators?

[C]

No, they're going to have their next view of just how to make their people who like movies, but also have all those skills. That's going to be. That's going to be our 1970s crew.

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What stopped you from being one of those people?

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It was too time consuming and demanded way too much focus.

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What about talent? Did you have it?

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Not really. Not for that. Yeah. Not for a break.

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Would have been good for you, though. Hold on, guys. Got to take a break. Five minutes. I'm just going to talk to dp.

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I found a way to take cigarettes breaks without even becoming a filmmaker.

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Can I ask you one more modern cinema question?

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Yeah.

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The Odyssey, in or out?

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Oh, all the way in.

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All the way in. All the way, yeah. You excited about the source materials?

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Chris Nolan.

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Do you think Damon's going to bring any boss?

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Yeah.

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Boston to. To Greece.

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There.

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I'm in.

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I've.

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I've intentionally tried to read nothing. Watch any trailer and I don't know who's in it other than Matt Damon. I'm trying to avoid the story of

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the Odyssey, of course.

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Do you think Matt Damon is going to hit the Cyclops? Whether you think you're better than me, it's in play.

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This is probably the last act for him because he's heading into his late 50s and I think it is hard to be an action hero after a certain point.

[B]

What do you mean by that?

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No, I just think you age into a different level of roles.

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I think he's well suited to Color of Money.

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Yeah.

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He's going to embrace it. Whereas somebody like our guy TC has not.

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Timothy Chalamet.

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No, Tom Cruise.

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Oh, right. Okay.

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Not embraced it yet.

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No.

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Well, we'll see. This.

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We never talked about the probably bullshit rumor that Tom Cruise was going to be the villain in Joseph Kaczynski's Miami Vice.

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We didn't. I'd like to actually get your thoughts on all this.

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I told you my thoughts immediately. Did not pass the sniff test.

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Didn't seem real.

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No.

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Yeah. It was debunked for us by a

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source I like to sometimes live in, like the alternate reality.

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You want TC back out there?

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TC Is Calderon or whatever Like TC Just being like Neil from Collateral but in Miami Vice again would be amazing.

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Do you want him from Collateral, like a Puerto Rican accent?

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No.

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Would you be comfortable with that?

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No. We could iterate on his ethnic background if we. I'm just saying, like, Miami Vice is rich with characters like that, that he

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could inhabit my dream for TC I'm not just saying this because Amanda's here, but like a Nancy Myers thing where he's like a divorced or a widowed older guy falling in love with, like, a slightly younger woman. Like an Anne Hathaway. Maybe like mid, late 40s. It would be.

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Let's do it.

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His greatest stunt, having a human relationship.

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I feel like get him out of the helicopter, though.

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I want to say, like, basically Jerry McGu Maguire 30 years later, coming to grips with some stuff.

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What's a good Nancy Myers esque title? Is it, like, it's about time and, like, it's a double entendre with, like, we finally see Tom Cruise back in the.

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You gotta hand it to him.

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Yes.

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Honestly. Very good.

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And Chris is just like.

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It's like a bouquet of flowers in one hand and his cell phone in the other, and he's gotta make a choice.

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Yeah.

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Love or money.

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And Albert Brooks and, you know, Alec Baldwin are like, oh, James Earl's the

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one with Reese Withersp where she was a softball player.

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How do you know?

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How do you know that was. Nancy Myers is like, man, that's a great title. How'd you take that?

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How do you know?

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How do you know? Question mark.

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No, no question mark.

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Are you sure?

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I'm almost positive. There's no question mark at the end of that title.

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No, you're right.

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James brooks getting, like, 10 years to research softball is one of the great.

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Well, you do it for free.

[C]

I try to watch it.

[B]

No, it's tough.

[C]

Willa McKay. Is that what it's called?

[B]

Ella McKay.

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Ella McKay. Yeah, my wife and I tried to watch. My wife was out in 15min. Held on for another, like, six.

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Right.

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It was on Hulu. I just couldn't, like, Hanging on the cliff. I'm hanging on. It's James. I just. Just didn't work.

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Yeah, it just didn't work.

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Kudos to him for continuing to make movies. It's just that one didn't work.

[D]

June Brooke's.

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No.

[D]

1988 movie.

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No, because 87 is podcasting.

[B]

Yeah. This is really his era, though. This is his kind of nice segue. Cr. You ready to go forward?

[D]

We can stick around on contemporary cinema if you want.

[B]

Let's start with you because I know Bill has a lot of thoughts about this time, but who Were you in 1988?

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What were you doing just banging on doors for Dukakis, you know, making sure the Duke dude, were you the one

[B]

who put him in that tank?

[D]

I was like, people love it. 11 year olds are gonna love it. No, I was. I was a VHS kid. So a lot of these movies I've seen double digits times. I very. I wouldn't say very many of them I saw in the theater, but this was like the peak of going and renting two, three videos a day and coming home and then getting late charges and forgetting to rewind and all the, all the things that went along with blockbusters and smaller video stores back then, but what a time.

[C]

Plus we had cable too, so there was two different ways to go see

[D]

whatever I was looking at the box office, you know, Box office Mojo also has like, you know, like the release date and all this stuff. And in April, there was still stuff from the previous Christmas in theater. Like Good Morning Vietnam is still in theaters in like, like a thousand theaters in April. And that was also a thing I do think I remember is maybe getting to go see movies much later in their runs if, like, my parents finally broke down and were like, I don't know what to do with you. So you can see Good Morning Vietnam. Yeah, just an incredible variety of stuff.

[C]

And also, I don't even trust the box office figures because there was so much sneaking into the next movie and going for the entire day and seeing three movies. That's what we did over and over again.

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I mean, most horror movies, you could probably add like $2 million on just kids sneaking into them.

[C]

There was no, there was nobody working in any theater. It would be like a 14 movie theater complex. There's only a couple of these left in bigger cities. And you would just go at 12 and just bang out three.

[B]

Were you seeing a lot of movies at this time?

[C]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

In the theater?

[C]

Oh, yeah. We had less to do. Yeah, yeah. But it was.

[D]

We.

[C]

We knew what was coming out. I think Premiere magazine was already around at this point. There was just starting to be like some sense of the culture of it. And as you can see from the movies we're about to draft, they were just fucking awesome movies with huge stars. I remember seeing Cocktail with my. We talked about this when we did the Rewatchables with my buddy Jim Grady in New York City, where we were going out in New York City that night because we could legally drink there. But we saw Cocktail during the day and it was like structured this whole day. All right, we'll see cocktail at the 2:30 show. We'll drive it in the city. But it was like a big deal. Some of these actors, excuse me, Robin Williams, we didn't know who Bruce Willis was yet, but Cruz, Costner, Stallone's in here. Costner I cared about. At this point we just had people you wanted to go to the theater for, which has been the problem really this entire century. How many people do you want to go see? Just because it's like Costner baseball.

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Yeah, that's a really good way of putting it.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Who were you? What were you doing?

[A]

I was three turning four. So I was primarily interested in the Oscar winning cinema of Julie Andrews at this point on vhs. So this is another draft where it's. You're doing the homework after the fact. And so it's kind of what got handed down to me by my parents and the world's number one Barry Levinson fan, Knox Dobbins, my dad. And then what I sought out on my own and what kind of rises to the pop cultural. This is important. Like you need to check this out. Even though it's been 10 or 15 years later. So it'll be interesting. Some of these categories are very full and some of these categories, a little padding for me, that's okay.

[D]

I have a question about that. But I want to hear your biographical snapshot of 1986.

[B]

I probably just started going to the movies pretty regularly at this time. I was just telling a story to someone the other day that where I grew up there was about an 8 minute walk from my house. I grew up near the Walt Whitman Mall. I grew up in Huntington, which is where Walt Whitman was born. Everything was named after Walt Whitman. The Walt Whitman Mall had a single movie theater attached to it. It's one of the very first mall movie theaters in America. It opened in 1963 and I saw a shit ton of movies there in my life. It's closed now, but I can remember going to that mall with my little sister and going to see all of the new golden age Disney Classics. In 89 it was the Little Mermaid. In 90 it was the Beauty and the Beast. In 92 it was Aladdin. In 94 it was the Lion King. So I remember that stuff very vividly. I don't remember watching a ton of these movies in 88 just because I'm a little bit younger.

[C]

Except for who Framed Roger Rabbit, which established his love for Redhead from that moment.

[B]

We will get there for sure.

[A]

Bringing up who Framed Roger Rabbit. This is an interesting list in that there is one film here that is, like, emotionally significant to each person at the table that I could think of off the top of my head.

[C]

Just one.

[A]

Well, not just one, but there's one where it's like, if the person in question doesn't get it, it hurts.

[D]

Yeah, it. We haven't had a draft like this in a minute.

[A]

And that's intriguing. And, you know, and I. And Sean's is who Framed Roger Rabbit? I think we all know yours has already been name checked.

[C]

Nobody knows what mine is.

[B]

You have. There are.

[A]

You're full of surprises.

[B]

There are a few Big Bill movies,

[D]

Big Last Temptation Guy, good soundtrack.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Well, you guys certainly share on this year, but I. I thought this would. This would be a really fun one for the four of us specifically because, like you say, there's these, like, talismans, these idols. It really matters.

[C]

I mean, the bummer was the sequels were really bad. Bad.

[D]

So I was curious about. Couldn't believe it. You elected sequels.

[A]

He texted me this morning, being like, is sequels really happening? Was this purpose?

[D]

I.

[A]

For.

[D]

For some reason, I had made my list. I had kind of sort of lightly organized it. And then at. I was like, did I miss five movies? And I was like, no, I think this is just a challenge. And then also, your box office slider very interestingly went to 75.

[B]

Well, I'll. I'll tell you my thinking on both. One, I think these. These drafts, I mean, we've now done. I don't even know how many over almost 100 probably.

[D]

We.

[C]

You've done 100 drafts slow and fast. At the same time, you've done, like 60.

[B]

You might be right. We've been doing them since 2020 once a month. So how many months is that?

[A]

Yeah, like 60, 65. So, yeah. So that's 60 plus a couple. Yeah.

[B]

Plus five. Yeah. Okay. So every time we do it, it should definitely be movies that you love, movies that represent what was going on in the space at that time, movies that aged better, that people have a warmer feeling for. I think it's nice to get a snapshot of the state of the art. And the sequel thing gives you that snapshot to some extent, the box office. Here's why I did this this way. We did 1989 last year, and we had the same threshold. And there were 17 movies eligible with $75 million threshold. In 1988, there were only nine. There also was a $350 million movie in 1989. No movie cracked $200 million in the US in 1988. So what happened? What was that about? Because we think of this as a great year, but the returns don't reveal a great year in moviegoing.

[C]

I'm trying to remember. I just think, first of all, there were so many movies back then, and maybe it feels like people just grabbed oxygen from other movies.

[B]

Might have been way more $60 million movies. And that might have been. We're not seeing that when we look at the top.

[C]

There wasn't that one massive giant thing that was coming out. And there also wasn't like the really the phenomenon either, because two years later, I think is Pretty Woman and Ghost was two or three years later. But these movies that kind of came out of nowhere. And then everybody went. And when I was looking at the box office mojo for this, like, there's not like, coming to America was Eddie Murphy. Of course we're going to that. Good Morning Vietnam was Robin Williams trying to be funny. And Big had the best buzz of anything. Big was like, we all love Tom Hanks that whole decade. And it's like, this is Penny Marshall. The studio loves it. They think it's going to be. And everybody went and then everybody loved it.

[D]

I don't know how to even compare it to now because so much of now is also pocket watching with, like. Well, it actually cost $250 million. So I'll see in three months and we'll see if it's in the black.

[B]

Right.

[D]

When you look at, say that that April of 1988 that I was referring to earlier, you've got one outlier big earner at the top. And then everything else is, like, bunched together. But between 10 and $16 million for that month, which is just steady. Yeah, it's just doubles, you know, And I think that's what they really excelled at. And it's a completely different model where it's just like, no, we want people coming to the weekend, coming to the movies twice a week, five times a month. And so we got to give them a lot of stuff to choose from. And to your point about movie stars, I think there was like, a wider variety of people. It was like, I don't really know much about, you know, this cast, but I like Neil Simon and I like Matthew Broderick, so I'll check it out,

[C]

you know, or I saw that in the theater. I didn't really like it. So Biloxi Blues in the theater, we were. There was nothing else. We had seen Everything else. All right, fine. Matthew Broderick. He was Ferris Bueller two years ago. Let's go.

[A]

There's also 1988. Starts a lot of franchises or, you know, it's interesting to have a sequel category here where there are a lot of firsts.

[B]

There's only one sequel in the top 10 at the box office.

[A]

And so. But, you know, the. It's. It's a starting point and maybe even a little bit of a change going into the 90s. So they, you know, the first movie doesn't rack up as much money.

[B]

I think also Rain man was number one this year at the box office. And the reason why is because it had that long tail that you were describing, where it was an awards movie and it was in theaters forever. So it got to play for a long period of time. Hamnet's not in movie theaters anymore. One Battle is not in movie theaters anymore. It operates way differently now than it used to.

[C]

But Cruz was the biggest star we had coming out of 88. This is his MVP season. Cocktail has no business being. Where did it finish? Ninth biggest movie. That's insane. Cocktails. I love Cocktail.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

It's unbelievable that it made $78 million, but people were just in on that

[A]

because you plan to see it at 230 before you drive into the city.

[C]

Might have been $50 million. Might have been mine.

[D]

There was also. They were using their leverage because they essentially controlled the two ways you could see movies between home video and theaters. So they would control those windows where they were, like, if you don't see it now, you have to wait a year before it hits video shelves. So people were a little bit more motivated to be like, okay, this has been out for four months, but I want to see it because I don't want to have to wait till, like, next summer to see this.

[C]

I do remember in the moment the next summer, like, thinking something might be heading the wrong way and even, like, having. Because there were so many sequels and specifically the Indiana Jones movie, which we were excited to see and we all liked, but it just felt familiar.

[D]

Crusade.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

When I was looking at the 88 list, it's a lot of, like, original stuff that just caught people, caught actors in the right time in their career. Were really good ideas. Are movies that couldn't be a sequel. You couldn't have Big two unless it was probably, like, a really dark thriller. She's still obsessed with them 20 years later.

[B]

Every single movie in the top seven in 89 either was a sequel or kicked off a franchise. And that is just one year later where almost the opposite is true for these movies, which is really interesting. Two Tom Cruise movies, two Mike Nichols movies in this year. To your point about Biloxi Blues, a lot of heavyweight filmmakers made movies this year.

[C]

Two Harrison Ford movies.

[B]

Right, Two Harrison Ford movies. I don't usually do this, but Scorsese, Coppola, Tim Burton, Lawrence Kasdan, Ron Howard, Woody Allen, Vim Vendors, Clint Eastwood, Robert Zemeckis, Jonathan Demme, you can go on down the line. All of the major horror guys had movies. Wes Craven, John Carpenter, George Romero. You know, you had your. Gary and Penny Marshall had a movie this year. Frank Oz had a movie this year. Like a lot of the, like well known Hollywood professionals were making a lot of movies at this time. It was very active. Ivan Reitman movie this year. So it's interesting that it's a mixed bag. Almost none of them made their best movie this year.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[C]

Bruce Willis.

[B]

Well, yeah, and then there's that too. And then that's a movie that kind of changed movies forever in a way as well.

[C]

The star power is incredible. It's name a star from the 80s and 90s. They had a movie this year and it was probably a good movie. And some people, like Hanks was in two movies. A lot of people were doubling them up.

[A]

Three for. We haven't said Michelle Pfeiffer yet. I know, I know. But this, this is.

[C]

Julia Roberts has her kind of throwing. Throwing the fishing line out like I'm

[D]

here, guys, just looking at some pizza.

[A]

I do always feel like because of my age, that I'm a little bit behind some of the 80s stars. Like, I missed Demi Moore at the Heights, like Kathleen Turner, Michelle Pfeiffer, you know, by the time that we were conscious, Michelle Pfeiffer was doing. What's the movie where she, you know, teaches the dangerous minds. Yeah.

[B]

You know, it's not different from Dangerous Liaisons. From this year.

[A]

Right. From this year. But so, but this is, this is Pfeiffer at the absolute peak of her powers.

[B]

I don't think I told you this. I saw, I did talk about it on the 89 pod. I saw fabulous Baker Boys for the first time last year and I was just blown away by it.

[C]

It's a grand slam.

[A]

It is.

[C]

The other thing about. There were some people in here in the 80s, we had less to talk about. There were some people you always liked. It was like the old I'm buying stock and blank joke. There were some people like, I like that guy. Or I like that lady. And you're hoping it would happen.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

And it really happened for a bunch of people. Like even Hanks. Hanks was not Hanks until Big. We knew who he was the whole decade. He had big movies. Splash was a hit, but he was kind of bouncing around. You're like, is this gonna happen for this guy? And then he did Big, it's two this year. Willis was on Moonlighting. It's like that guy's a movie star and then he has Die Hard. But it was. There's like eight or nine of those in there. Even like De Niro doing comedy was a huge deal. Like, I didn't even know he could do that.

[D]

It's also an interesting year in the relationship between mainstream and independent cinema, because I don't even know if you would say this is the slacker era yet.

[C]

No, we're almost there, though.

[D]

She's got to have it to come out, do the right things the next year. Sex, Lies and Videotape is the next year. Jarmusch puts the movie out in 89. There are underground filmmakers who are emerging, but they're not. There's not that like indie cinema Sundance moment yet.

[C]

Keenan's was the. Was the one I remember from this year. Yeah. I'm gonna get you, sucker. I was like, I don't think he spent a lot of money on it. And it was. It was like kind of a ground soul movie. But it felt like that started either in 89 or 90, I think.

[B]

Yeah. I mean, Spike had a movie. He had school days this year, but then not. It wasn't the big, massive breakthrough. You're right. That it was not. They. The independent movement had not been like subsumed into Hollywood.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

It was famous in 1988.

[D]

And this is Premier Max too. So it's like, you know, we're still in a moment where they haven't created like a new, like movies for like awards. Like there are award movies, but I don't even know if you would even be able to define what they were at the time.

[B]

You were referring earlier about certain guys in the government who got well known for never raising their voices, but starting wars. And there are a lot of film directors this year. They're kind of similar, like 58 year old men who are just very assured hands who are very good at making movies, but they're not a part of like a cool young class.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

And maybe this is like a. I don't know, I'd say every transitional moment, but it feels like it, right?

[C]

Yeah. The Other thing that changed, we're basically done with the 80s teen comedies. And you see, we've moved. We're moved into this license to drive. They're just not as good. 87 was, like, the last year where you had Can't Buy Me Love and like, really good movies that still hold up. These. The teen movies from this era. Just.

[A]

I hadn't seen any of them until. Not great prepping for this.

[B]

Any other stray thoughts before we determine our draft order?

[D]

Just also, like, this kind of mass volume Hollywood output also, like, really mixes up genres so that there's a lot of, like, you could put it in drama, you could put it in action, you could put it in a variety of things.

[B]

We're going to need to talk about that. So there's seven categories.

[C]

You cut out comedy in the dot. Comedy is one of the.

[B]

Oh, comedy is one of them. Yeah. I don't know why that isn't here. Sorry.

[D]

Oh, comedy.

[C]

Assumed you missed it.

[B]

Yes. Comedy is in this. Yes.

[D]

Oh, okay.

[B]

Well, I can totally miss it. The comedy list is so long.

[C]

Yes.

[B]

My apologies. I did cut it out. Seven categories. Those categories are drama, comedy, action, horror, thriller, Oscar nominee, sequel, blockbuster. The threshold is $75 million and wild card.

[C]

And we all have to have an Oscar nominee. And it can only be one of the five movies.

[B]

Nope, it can be any movie that got an Oscar nomination that year.

[C]

Oh, you're right.

[B]

Any category. So you have a pretty. You can get a long list for that. Oscar nominee.

[C]

Cocktail. No nominations.

[A]

I think it did get a.

[B]

Did it get a music nomination?

[A]

I think so. Let me. I was looking at it.

[C]

Oh, Brian Brown got best supporting Actor, Coughlin's Law.

[B]

So the challenge, as Chris pointed out, is I'm wrong.

[A]

It didn't. I'm sorry, Bill.

[C]

I'm not shocked to hear this.

[B]

So the challenge here is that there are only nine movies eligible for blockbuster, so there will probably be a run on that category. Yeah, There are a lot of sequels, but I would not describe too many of them as beloved.

[D]

That's for heads.

[B]

Yeah. So you had to go and do your research on that one. I assume you guys did. You knew that comedy was coming. You feel good about.

[A]

You know, I knew comedy was coming.

[D]

Sequel.

[A]

I realized I would say today's Wednesday, so Monday afternoon.

[D]

Okay.

[A]

That's with enough time. So I budgeted some things out. We'll see.

[D]

The comedy thing actually helps a little bit here. Loosens me up.

[B]

Okay, good. I mean, this might be the best lineup of comedies ever in the history of movie Drafts. In my opinion, there is. I think it's 20.

[D]

I was shocked.

[B]

20 movies.

[C]

Deep movies that have held up.

[B]

Yeah, I think that's it. Jack, are you ready to determine your order?

[C]

And you hate Funny Farm, so That's not even one of your 20.

[B]

Not on my board. Yeah, not on my board.

[D]

You hate Funny Farm.

[C]

Yeah, he hates Funny Farm. It's one of the weirdest. Shauna Pinions.

[B]

When did we talk about this? It was on.

[C]

Came up once. And you were, like, dismissive and.

[B]

And you were mad.

[C]

Pulling the full Shaun on.

[B]

You were big mad.

[C]

That movie's bad. That movie's bad.

[B]

I don't think it's that funny. I'm sorry. Your beloved George Roy Hill.

[D]

Wasn't there a guy who. Anna De Armas. Chris Evans movie had, like, a tribute to Funny Farm that was cut out? Do you remember that story that ghosted? Yeah. Dexter Fletcher was like. I had a whole opening that was an homage to Funny Farm.

[B]

That's very weird. Did you see ghosted?

[A]

No, I can't recommend it.

[B]

Okay, let's do the draft order. Jack Sanders, very briefly. One thing we didn't mention this year is also infamously known as one of the worst Academy Awards of all time, with Rob Lowe and Snow White doing the opening number. Great point. And I was recently reading Michael Shulman's Oscar wars, and he talks at great length about how both the Academy felt the industry was stale and the award show was stale. That's why they hired Alan Carr. That's why they took a big swing. They fell on their face, and it was embarrassing, but I feel like it definitely was a turning point.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

They did such a great job the next year by giving the best Oscar to Driving Miss Daisy. Does anybody want the first pick?

[D]

Yes.

[A]

Oh, okay.

[C]

No, we gotta do it.

[B]

Wow. Manifesting it.

[C]

Cr.

[A]

Oh, okay.

[D]

The month goes on.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

This will be your final appearance on this show in CR Month. Drafting second, Bill Simmons.

[A]

Okay. Guess first. I guess.

[C]

Feeling good.

[B]

Such. Such kindness from Jack Sanders. Third will be. Sean. You're fine. Amanda Dobbins. You'll be fine. You're gonna get what you need.

[A]

I think so. If everyone, you know, did you come love in your heart or did you come to be a, you know, a spreadsheet man?

[B]

How many in the history of your career as a podcaster, how many times have you come to an episode with love in your heart?

[A]

I thought once or twice. I think so. Marriage story episode.

[B]

Yeah. Good episode.

[A]

And I think. I don't know. What's the other one? Where we started crying. Children of men. That was a surprise. That wasn't over, though.

[B]

You were just like, what if something bad happens to me?

[A]

Not to me. To children.

[B]

But.

[A]

But that's too. To answer your question. And I did give you one battle after another in a movie draft once In a movie auction. Once.

[B]

That was good.

[A]

So that's three times.

[B]

That was nice.

[A]

There we go.

[C]

I was excited for CR to just get weird with this entire draft and just do Last Temptation, Mississippi. Burning Cubes.

[A]

I'm listening.

[D]

I'm actually still happening now. I'm a little bit like. I'm like. I wish I was third.

[B]

Why?

[D]

Because I feel a pressure to take the thing that's probably the best for the board versus the thing that's closest to my heart.

[B]

I'm so fascinated to hear you say that. Really?

[A]

Haven't we learned also that you should always take the thing closest to your heart? That's what I've learned. But you know this. You could also do what. What did he pick in New York? Die Hard? Dhv.

[B]

Dh with a V. Dh with a

[A]

V. Yeah, you can listen. Dh with a V. Iron Man 3. Live your truth, buddy.

[C]

So you said there was one movie you think all of us, like, really want?

[A]

I. There is a movie that I associate with each of you in.

[D]

Each person has a movie that she associates with us.

[C]

Is it Accidental Tourist?

[A]

I can't wait to talk to you about Accidental Tourist.

[C]

It's out on my board.

[D]

That's the second time Big Bill Hurts come up today.

[C]

Not on my board.

[D]

No.

[A]

I would like to talk about Bill Hurt.

[D]

Sure.

[B]

Who?

[A]

I.

[C]

It's the end of the run right here.

[A]

Yeah. I've never gotten it. I just. I don't.

[B]

Not even in broadcast news.

[A]

No. I mean, he's playing. He's well suited for that character who you're supposed to kind of get despite.

[C]

You know, why you don't get it

[A]

in front of him.

[C]

You know why you don't get it?

[A]

Tell me.

[C]

It was easier back then. Nobody had a cushier existence than us.

[A]

Zach says, I don't really like ball

[D]

players, but I'm doing a big show over here.

[A]

That's what Zach said.

[B]

Because he's tall.

[A]

Well, we were talking about Body Heat, which obviously is still really good, but even there, I'm kind of like. You're kind of just like a. A sack of a man who doesn't know what to do with all this sweat. And I. And Zach said, well, because you've never been a ball player person anyway. I Won't be. Choosing Accidental Tourist is not my passion. Pick.

[C]

Not a great one.

[B]

Bill Hurt.

[C]

Weird.

[D]

Oscar.

[B]

Bill Hurt was good. I mean, he seemed like a complicated guy and had some ugly stuff about him, but he's a great actor.

[C]

Love Bill Hurt.

[B]

End of Violence. That's a great. Remember that scene at the end in that one? Right? No.

[D]

He's the brother until the end of the world. He's blind.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[D]

I'm gonna take Die Hard and Blockbuster.

[B]

Okay. Thank you.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Geez. Louise. Had me worried for a second, really,

[D]

for a long time. Thought John McClane was the coolest person that had ever been born. The funniest guy, the guy who could bring down a ring of. Of Germanic terrorists.

[B]

And now you think it's Chris Long

[D]

as they steal our bearer bonds. Bearer bonds, Apparently. Bill, I don't know. You're doing research, but I've been told reliably that bearer bonds have. Are way overrepresented in heist movies and that they're actually not a very popular way of transferring wealth.

[C]

I did that on the mailbag. Did you? Well, I did have a different version of what you did.

[D]

I got a DM about it.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Maybe this guy was just hitting us from all angles, but anyway.

[C]

Anti Bearabonds.

[D]

I'm taking. I'm taking Die Hard. This was. I did see this in movie theaters, and this was like, my identity for the year 1988. Aside from being a passionate Dukakis booster.

[B]

Well, one of those didn't really work out very well. The other worked out great.

[D]

Do you feel if you could have had a Michael Dukakis presidency, would you trade it for Die Hard ever of having existed?

[B]

I was six.

[D]

So what does that mean?

[B]

I'm not really sure ultimately, like, what did we gain or lose during hw? You want to weigh in?

[D]

Be flying back to the Michael Duakas airport in Boston right now.

[B]

You know, good point.

[C]

Oh, it's like that guy H Dubs. The Duke. Yeah, yeah.

[B]

Oh, the Duke. Yeah. From Massachusetts. He was a Massachusetts guy. Yeah. Hw, you know, he kind of got pun.

[A]

That was his VP gave us.

[B]

Who was it?

[D]

Was it Mondale?

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[D]

No, mondale. Ferraro was 84, right?

[B]

It was. It was. Oh, Stockdale. Yes, Admiral Stockdale.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

You guys, was it Stockdale who ran with Dukakis?

[C]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

And he was a stiff.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Was 88 your first presidential election that you voted in?

[C]

I could have voted. I don't think I did.

[D]

Wait, you didn't vote for the Massachusetts guy?

[C]

I don't think I made it. I think I was probably seeing one of these movies.

[D]

Jesus.

[C]

Yeah. I might have voted. I don't remember. 92. I was all in on my guy Bubba.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

Yeah, it was.

[A]

He liked McDonald's.

[C]

And the saxophone identified him early in 91. I'm like, this guy.

[A]

I think if I called Hope.

[D]

Just being. Now I'm not even admit that being really honest. I think I forgot to vote for Carrie. And I realized it, like, I was just like. Everybody's like, did you vote? And I was like, yeah.

[B]

And was that in Florida you were living at the time or.

[D]

No, you're in New York.

[B]

Okay.

[D]

Yeah. A lot of stuff going on.

[A]

Okay.

[D]

Strokes route. You're busy.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You think the Strokes voted for Carrie?

[B]

They definitely did not.

[A]

Yeah, they don't.

[C]

So you took Die Hard and Blockbuster?

[A]

I did John McLean.

[D]

What about him?

[A]

Kind of annoying. I would be annoyed if he were my husband. That was what I thought of my rematch.

[C]

He's trying to save you the whole time.

[A]

He does save me, but it's just like, you know, you gotta support my career and my career mobility. Also, it's Christmas Eve. Where is their child? Why is.

[D]

No, she's with the maid, right?

[A]

Yeah. That's fine. It's not a Christmas movie. It's a divorce movie. And I. I think that Bonnie Bedelia had some points.

[C]

Should we have had it in divorce month?

[D]

I think she's probably really trolling him with. By changing to Gennaro on the family to divorce month.

[B]

It wasn't divorce month.

[C]

It was up family month.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. Well, I just, you know.

[B]

Good point.

[A]

I think that hard too. So I know how it turns out.

[B]

First of all, yes, they. They reunite.

[A]

I understand.

[B]

Second of all, that's. That was wonderful childcare that the McLean family had.

[A]

It is Christmas Eve. Also, who was throwing an office party on whatever.

[D]

The Nakatomi Corporation. You know, it's really.

[B]

It's really good.

[A]

And I do this drive all the time to go see movies.

[C]

I'm gonna take. I'm gonna take Rain man in the Oscar nominee category.

[B]

Fascinating. Okay.

[A]

All right.

[C]

The reason is I don't love the Oscar nominee category. Okay. This checks a lot of boxes. This was an awesome movie. I think it was incredibly impactful. Maybe the first movie I think of when I think of 1988, our guy Dusty, he got a trophy.

[B]

He did.

[C]

Barry Levinson. I've always liked his work. This is probably the most successful thing he did. Is that fair?

[B]

I think without question his biggest movie.

[C]

But it was really for Cruise. This was the Tom Cruise is now here in my life for the next 30 years movie. Right. Top Gun. It's like, all right, cocky guy. This is good. What else do you got for us? Tom Cruise and then the Charlie Babbitt character becomes Tom Cruise for the next eight years. Basically, he's just playing this over and over again. It's a really good. It's a good date movie. It's a good watch with the family movie when he tilts his head and they touch heads in the end. If you don't get choked up on that, you don't have a heart. Even Sean gets choked up.

[B]

I like Rain Man.

[C]

The music's great. And the Vegas scene is an all timer and became one of those cultural things that when you went to Vegas and you saw the escalators, you thought of it. It's become running. There's a bunch of jokes that came out of this walkner. We got cultural stuff out of this. It's a home run movie.

[B]

I think it's a legitimately great Cruise performance. We talked about it when we did it on the pod, but we were

[C]

saying he should have won.

[B]

He's the one harder part. Yeah, much harder.

[D]

What's his job in Rain Man? He's like a car sales car.

[B]

He sells high end cars.

[C]

Right.

[B]

Like really nice sports cars.

[C]

It's also a good. Like for about 20 minutes. Becomes an awesome LA movie.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

He's living in some. Somewhere in the hills somewhere. But yeah, I love his girlfriend.

[D]

Is it an Italian lady? I can't remember her name.

[B]

It's Valeria Golino.

[C]

Yeah, Valeria Golina. Who? One of the many Benicio Del Toro girlfriends.

[D]

Oh, good for him.

[B]

I heard legendary stick man, that guy Benicio.

[C]

All right, so that's my Oscar pick. So that's off the board. I don't have to worry about that category. I don't have to worry about that category now.

[B]

You don't. That also is the highest grossing movie of the year. So that takes. So that we've lost two of the nine box office grocers. Sheesh.

[C]

Yeah, it's part of my plan.

[B]

I think it's a good plan. I'm gonna. I'm not gonna stick it to you, but I am gonna make a strategic move.

[C]

Oh, boy.

[A]

Don't do it.

[C]

Don't do it.

[B]

No, I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna do it. You know what?

[C]

I'm gonna unravel the pile.

[A]

You can do it if you're Gonna do it.

[B]

I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna do it.

[A]

With your whole heart.

[B]

I'm not.

[A]

You don't throw both balls and like stand up and be cabin.

[B]

You have no idea what I'm gonna do.

[C]

Be a personal attack. If you did this, it's a personal attack.

[B]

First of all, I don't work that way. I don't live that way. I'm not that kind of man.

[C]

Don't do it.

[D]

But you advocate. You like seeing it. You like seeing it in the wild when it happens.

[B]

Yeah, I like to get my rocks off by watching other people. When Rob Mahoney comes in this house and he takes something from Amanda, I like it, I enjoy it. I give it a heart. I fave it. I send it up to the cloud. I say thank you.

[D]

You add it to your story.

[B]

That's not what I do.

[D]

So what are you going to be picking?

[B]

I'm going to take Big and I'm going to take it in Blockbuster.

[D]

Okay, everybody's. Well, now we're all friends.

[A]

That's fine. That's good. I mean, I was actually going to do that with one of my two.

[B]

I assumed it would be on the turn.

[A]

Very smart.

[B]

So I love Big. Who doesn't like Big? Who doesn't love Big?

[C]

Big's great.

[B]

It's a great film. Really sincere.

[A]

What do you mean?

[D]

You guys just like, I love Big. Thelma and Louise did. And you're like right at the second.

[A]

That's where people tune in.

[B]

I think Big is like, it's shocking that Big works on paper. Big sounds terrible. And it's totally Tom Hanks who carries the movie on his shoulders the entire time and makes you truly believe that he is a 10 year old boy. And it was probably a movie, probably one of the first grown up movies that I ever saw because it was on cable nonstop one year after it came out. Almost certainly the first time I saw Hanks. And an easy movie for a then 7 or 8 year old to get really into and learn about the world of being an adult. And Jeff Chow is just showing us that his family is in New York today and that they were at Fao Schwartz dancing on the Keys, you know, and it's like that is something in the culture that still exists. And your boy, Robert Loggia.

[D]

I didn't say Loggia. I just watched him with the scene where Josh is like, well, this robot doesn't do anything. It just turns into a building. He's like, no, say more. Josh, what do you got for me? All These suits.

[B]

He hates John Hurd so much in that movie. It's incredible. I think this is a beautiful movie and very funny and very sincere and also quite weird. It's like he transforms into an adult because of a Zoltar. That's just very strange. But I love it. So that's my pick for Blockbuster.

[C]

It's a classic. It's a timeless movie. And it's a movie that as soon as. How old's your oldest kid?

[A]

4. So I start to see a little bit.

[C]

It could be like about. No, but you may be like maybe age 6. You can actually watch that movie with your kids and feel good about it.

[A]

Yeah, but I just meant imagining him being lost in an adult world. He was like pornox, what I do now.

[C]

But it's. You can really.

[B]

What do I do with Elizabeth McGovern? No, Elizabeth Perkins. Different. Wrong 80s.

[C]

I would say it's in the running for best parent kid movie. Like for watching. To watch with kids.

[A]

Oh, nice.

[C]

Way up there.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

There were an exercise and I think it's really timeless and there's an incredible amount of comedy in it that's developed over the years. Very funny with. She's like, call me, call me in five years. Whatever she said. Like, it gets like super creepy there for a split second. It's really funny on the rewatches. Great movie. And she. I don't think she ever dated again, that woman. Yeah. I don't think you bounced back years and years of therapy. You still don't really come back from that one.

[B]

But do you think she was that like the love of her life? Like she held a candle for 35 year old Josh?

[C]

I think that part of that. And then I think it's, am I a bad person?

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

What did that say about me? And then it's all of her friends being like, so wait, what happened? Yeah, and I just think it's.

[D]

She's like taking him to the Zoltar machine. Like. No, no, you try it. It's crazy.

[C]

She shows up at his high school graduation. They have to escort her out. I think it goes really bad.

[B]

Letourneau May December situation. Right?

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Maybe she's tuffed in.

[C]

I think it goes dark.

[D]

Okay.

[B]

That's unfortunate.

[C]

All right, well, we know what Amanda's gonna take.

[A]

Yes. I have two picks. The first in comedy, I will take my passion pick, Working Girl, directed by Mike Nichols, starring Melanie Griffith, Harrison Ford, Sigourney Weaver, Joan Cusack, Bill. And I got to do a whole rewatchables about this, which was One of the great days in my professional life. Yeah, this is probably top five rom coms for me, even all time, I think. Think so. You know, the list changes. It's a living document, much like myself. And it's also not a traditional romantic comedy in the sense that it's as much about her professional pursuits as it is about Harrison Ford. And it does the nice thing where it's number one, the hottest Harrison Ford has ever been. And number two, he just shows up to be, like a charming hunk of meat. And I really like it when people as famous as Harrison Ford men, specifically, just show up to, you know, be shirtless in the one scene, changing their shirt in the office. Just an amazing movie. And I'm not gonna sing the Carly Simon song, but, you know, one of the great credit sequences and great Oscar wins. Really, really important stuff. So I have another one. And this is where another pick. I was gonna do big in box office. I probably should strategically do box office because that is getting thin and. Okay. So I will do Coming to America in Box office.

[D]

Good pick.

[A]

Which is, you know, also eligible in comedy. And I think maybe an Oscar nominee.

[B]

It is below the line, best costumes.

[A]

So I needed to get it off the board. Yeah. So I think that I didn't see Coming to America in theaters in 1988. I was too small. But I think I just saw all the Eddie Murphy movies, like, in a month stretch when I was maybe 10 or 11 or something, I just sat down one weekend or one month and was like, oh, this is Eddie Murphy. This is what I have been hearing about or seeing. Not commercials, but just kind of pop culture. He was a figure, but I'd never seen any of the stuff. He's very funny. I mean, this movie is very funny.

[B]

I think you're not going to agree with this, but I think his best movie, end to end for me, obviously,

[C]

it's a take his corners back movie. After Golden Child, which was kind of a mess. I still like it because it was Eddie Murphy, but he kind of needed this one. And it was like, this is going to be a big movie. Nobody knew who Arsenio was. He had an accent. There were a lot of red flags. And then it ended up being what it was.

[D]

It's got like five or six Cry Out Loud.

[C]

Yeah, it's. It's like, you know.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

And I think the movie still has legs and exists.

[A]

I rewatched it before coming to America, too, which was not as funny.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

We don't acknowledge coming in America.

[A]

It is still really funny. And I had the experience prepping for this. Some other comedies that I rewatch, and I remember, like, weeping, laughing, and I just. I didn't laugh once. And so not all comedy ages, as we've learned. Not in the, like, you know, politically correct sense, but just in the. Does it make you laugh? Coming to me still makes you laugh.

[C]

Yeah. And like a gentle, just happy hang.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

There's something about the Innocence of the Prince. And everything in Zamunda is so funny, so specific. Yeah, it's a. It's like kind of a miraculous movie. Like, I. For you, I know 48 hours is one of your faves in Beverly Hills Cop. Like, where does this one sit?

[C]

I think Cops is best. Probably his best performance in a movie because he just carries it. Trading Places, I still feel like is his best movie.

[D]

That's the funniest.

[C]

And Coming to America is probably the one that's gonna last the longest because it just keeps going.

[D]

And then 48 hours is like the punk rock debut where you're like, I can't believe this is happening. Watch this.

[C]

Fuck, yeah. Crazy.

[D]

And then another 48 hours is maybe like the, like, hey, he can still play guitar.

[C]

Well, the other thing, John Amos being in this movie was a big deal in 1988. That, like, there's stuff that hasn't held up. He was the dad from Good Times. That was a huge, huge show. And it was like, hey, it's John. Like, it just. They felt like they stacked the deck a little bit with how they did it, and it was completely satisfying. I was worried that they might eff it up. They did not.

[D]

I think we watched in my neighborhood, we would just get the tape and watch the barbershop scene over and over and over again.

[C]

That's the other thing. That was the first time he really did that in a movie.

[B]

The multiple characters.

[C]

It's not like we had a ton of info about these movies. So it was like, isn't that wasn't Eddie? And that's like in every. You didn't know. In the same way he talked about

[B]

it in the Netflix doc that he did, where he was like, he would just show up on set and just trick people. Like, they just didn't even know when's Eddie arriving? And he was like, I don't know where he is. Right.

[C]

Okay, Big pick for you.

[B]

Yeah. I mean, look, obviously I really want to take who frame Roger Rabbit, but I don't really feel like you guys give a shit about it, so it doesn't really make a ton of sense.

[D]

But that's the thing is that, like,

[C]

I will absolutely spite. Pick it if you don't take it.

[B]

Would you really?

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Well, now he's Spidey.

[B]

Why would you.

[D]

He's gonna.

[C]

Don't. Save it for later.

[D]

Fucking kill me here.

[B]

It's not very nice. I invite you here. I invite you in my house. No.

[C]

I'm not going to take it. Next.

[B]

There's two huge, huge movies for me this year. Yeah. And I haven't taken them. Either one of them yet. And I will just take who Framed Roger Rabbit and I'll risk it because it feels like the most emotionally correct thing for me to do.

[D]

Good.

[A]

That's beautiful.

[B]

We just.

[C]

Good. I'm happy for you.

[D]

And if you don't make it any further, that's okay, too.

[B]

I heard that someone texted me was like, do not listen to the mailbag. They were rewatchables. And I was like, why? And they were like, well, some notes for you in there.

[C]

Oh, this. All out of love.

[B]

Yeah, sure, sure. It was.

[C]

It was great.

[B]

Who Framed Roger Rabbit? Saw it in 1988. Cooked my noodle. Just changed my absolute brain for what I thought a movie could be and what it should be. I didn't know any of the reference points to 40s detective movies. I didn't really understand the idea of blending these two worlds. I knew everything about all the cartoon characters in the movies. Certainly had never seen Bob Hoskins before. I think Bill's point about Jessica Rabbit is probably true, that she imprinted on me. A cartoon babe with red hair.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

That's how I felt about all of Charlie's Angels and the Bionic Woman.

[B]

That stuff is real. It does.

[D]

Except those were actual human beings and not a drawing.

[A]

Figure out who. I guess mine was. Patrick Swayze and Dirty Dancing and Ghost. And I was just like, oh, something interesting is here.

[C]

And same for me.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And you know who Framed Roger? I. An insane technical achievement nominated for six Academy Awards. It won a bunch of Oscars. It was a huge hit. It would have been the biggest hit of the year if Rain man didn't win Best Picture. It's Zemeckis in the absolute center of his greatness. Like right after Back to the Future movies. And it is a little bit of a cynical thing where it was like, what if we put Donald Duck and Daffy Duck in a movie together? But the movie doesn't feel that way. It feels like pretty sharp and smart. It's kind of like a soft Chinatown remake. We talked about LA Confidential on the rewatchables coming up next week. There's a lot in common with it there. When you go back to the actual serious adult movies I like, there's a lot of who Framed Roger Rabbit stuff that probably was seeded originally there.

[D]

What category, Sean?

[B]

Let's do it in. Oscar nominee.

[C]

Interesting. Okay, well, C.R. thought he might get one of these two movies coming down the pike. And I have two words for you. Shut the fuck up. Because I'm taking Midnight Run as a comedy. Taking it off the board.

[A]

That was a direct.

[C]

It had to be on my team.

[D]

Sure. I mean, this is what I was worried about is I was either going to have to take it first or I wasn't going to get it.

[B]

But, yeah, I'm surprised it lasted this long, given the company.

[C]

Excited and delighted. It's probably going to cost me at least two other movies I really like, but this is my favorite Dinero movie and performance ever. This movie was an absolute delight in the theater. It crushed. It's like among the hardest I've seen people laugh in a theater. It holds up. Iconic Rodin. More lines than I think any adult comedy ever. Just every scene has lines. It's still hilarious. It's a couple emotional scenes. He goes to see the wife, brings the Duke back to his car. Make sure he doesn't close the money belt.

[D]

Coat.

[C]

The money belt. It's just the soundtrack's great. There's stuff I pulled out of it for my own life where it's like, I've come too far. I've come too fucking far.

[B]

But he said to Skipper, yeah, too far.

[C]

I just. I just love this movie.

[D]

One of the great Joey pants roles.

[C]

It's all these. That guys. I better go get some donuts. That guy. And. And I think it's. It's weird because Die Hard is, like, starts this whole genre right, that people just ripped off. And I think Midnight Run is probably the movie. People have tried to make and fail their version of the most, and they fail every time. I don't think anyone's ever talking about Nice Guys.

[D]

How hard it is to do something like that.

[C]

Yeah, the Nice Guys is probably one of the ones that got the closest. But, like, how do we just have, like, smart, funny, good structure, great lines back and forth, like genuinely funny stuff, and everybody fucks it up.

[D]

Two lovable characters who just each other for an hour and 58 minutes and then, like, look at each other in the eye and like, I love you at the end. It is just like a perfect recipe.

[C]

De Niro's so good in this movie.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

He's like. When he's sitting in the bus and he's like, why do. He's killing him on the smoking. And he's just killing him. And De Niro's like. Like, you see the life leaving his body. Why are you popping up the Chicago to police department? And he's just like, fucking killing him. It's great.

[A]

I realized I'm old because when I rewatched part of it for this, I was like, oh, De Niro looks really good in this.

[C]

He does still, like.

[D]

I know.

[A]

That's because now I'm in the same age bracket and I'm just like, wow, De Niro still good.

[C]

It's honestly like watching a basketball player play football or something. It doesn't make sense that he's this good at comedy. Then he does it again and Meet

[B]

the parents totally changed his career. It totally opens up up a whole new lane of movie that he could be in. And he spent more time making those movies in the last 25 years than he did making the movies he got known for.

[C]

So that was part of the fun was going to the theater and be like Daenerys. And this seems like it's like a comedy Daenerys in it. And then he was great. This movie's great.

[B]

Do you own the 4K?

[D]

Of course.

[B]

Oh, boy.

[D]

I do.

[B]

It's great.

[C]

What's happened to me with the 4Ks IS, as you've predicted, it's getting out of control.

[A]

You've gone nuts.

[C]

Well, it's like groups having a 50 off sale. I'm like, criteria flash sale. I don't even know if I'll ever watch this, but I can't believe that's only 13.99.

[A]

Display strategy.

[C]

Right now it's one giant tower that I am about to have to get a second one. Okay, just for Cruising, though, I need to. I have a hundred copies of Cruising.

[B]

That's good. Unopened, though.

[C]

Unopened?

[B]

Yeah, I just.

[C]

I like to collect.

[D]

And then one that's really open.

[C]

I'm trying to short the market. I'm Cruising so now nobody else can have it. And then they'll all be worth more. Has anyone tried that yet?

[B]

How's your collection going?

[A]

Well, I have that bring it on 4K that you gave me.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

For my birthday.

[B]

Doesn't have a 4K player.

[A]

Listen, I just. I'm. No, you're right. I don't. I just have a Blu Ray.

[C]

Here's where it really. Not to. Not to just cater To Sean here.

[D]

Okay, sure.

[C]

With the 70s and 80s movies, it really does make a difference.

[B]

It does.

[C]

Like, I'm actually surprised. Like, I think with more modern movies, maybe not as much, but when you're going back, like when we did To Live and Die in la, like what it did to that movie, where I could. Was able to see William Peterson's genitalia.

[B]

Yeah, that was exciting.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

It was like, I just was never able to really.

[D]

That's why film preservation matters.

[B]

That's right.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

For dong shots for Hanging Dog, this is the angle.

[D]

For two decades, VHS obscured this.

[B]

You might want to look into that.

[C]

Yeah. Because those 70s 80s movies, a lot of times they're filmed dark.

[B]

I mean, you could only watch To Live and Die in LA and pan and scan on TV for years. There was no other way to see it.

[C]

It's such an important point.

[B]

So. Yeah, I'm glad you come around. You got three picks here, bud.

[D]

It's really. I know what I'm going to pick. It's just about categories.

[B]

Have you taken a mortal wound by losing Midnight Run?

[D]

It's more of a heart shot, you know.

[B]

Okay. You will live.

[D]

That hurts, but I'm going to live.

[B]

You'll be like Dark Man.

[C]

I thought you were going to take it first.

[A]

That was the one that you loved, and that was in my head. I thought that was his passion project. You're still a mystery. We don't know what yours is.

[B]

I'm thinking Die Hard all the way. You've always been a diehard.

[D]

That's the first pick problem. And I also am not enamored with our blockbusters, particularly so in comedy. I'm gonna take Bull Durham.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

Yep.

[D]

Which is one of my most viewed movies, most rewatched movies probably in my life. Happy opening day week to everybody who observes. The Church of Baseball is open.

[B]

Can we just do just win total predictions for our teams right now?

[C]

Right now for Amanda.

[B]

Right now. Well, Amanda, also an avid baseball fan, although a bit of a turncoat. And a T ball mom.

[C]

T ball gets dark.

[B]

Philosophers

[D]

89. Okay, okay.

[B]

Now, are you predicting Braves or Dodgers?

[A]

I have renounced the Braves. I have said this on the Big Picture podcast many times.

[B]

You said you're a Guardian fan.

[D]

I renounce the Braves.

[B]

Okay. Tigers.

[A]

I live with a Phillies fan. I work with a Mets fan. It's not worth it to me. Okay? I was there in the 90s. I experienced the glory, and now I. And they left Fulton county, and so did I.

[B]

So I say goodbye as always. The Braves Them?

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Would you say you're a Dodgers fan? Kind of.

[A]

I do. Like, I would like to go to Dodger Stadium this year. I. It's fun. I'd like to take my son. I like watching games, but I have, like. I've cozied up to the Phillies.

[D]

Thank you.

[B]

Okay, so no prediction from you. Yeah.

[C]

89 for the Red Sox.

[B]

89.739 and 89.

[D]

It's a tough division for you.

[B]

I'm going 91 for the Mets this year. I'm feeling pretty good, Jack. Is that too high? I think their line is 89 and a half. So that seems about right. Is it really? I think we've swapped places, though.

[C]

Well, a little bit. Went over right down the middle.

[B]

Went over.

[C]

Yeah. 89.

[B]

I didn't say my prediction is 89 and a half.

[A]

Do you think that it will be an emotionally stable season for you?

[B]

It never is.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Where are we right now? Like just on the. On the. Like green to red.

[D]

He's full of hope and dreams right now.

[B]

Crushing right now. One battle. Best picture movies are back.

[A]

I didn't mean your emotional state. I just met.

[B]

Well, we got through spring training with almost no injuries. Give or take a Mike Talkman. We're doing great.

[A]

All right.

[B]

Am I wrong?

[D]

We've.

[B]

We've swapped places. I'm protecting myself.

[A]

Does. Does. Do you still have a pitcher last named Dobbins on the Red Sox?

[B]

Traded.

[A]

No, he was traded.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Sorry.

[B]

Where did they trade?

[A]

My first game at Fenway. I got a Dobbins game.

[C]

He. I think he went somewhere in the American League.

[B]

I kind of trade for in the offseason. St. Louis Cardinals. He now plays.

[C]

Oh, they got a great off season.

[D]

You guys got one of our guys. You got Ranger.

[C]

Yeah, we got Ranger, Suarez and Contreras. It's not. Not telling my grandkids about the offseason. More like guys coming. Young guys.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

Didn't Roman get struck out to lose the wbc?

[C]

He did. Yeah, he did.

[B]

That wasn't ideal. I blame Aaron Judge.

[C]

And our guy gave up the winning run.

[B]

No, we hit a huge home run game tying home run in the final.

[A]

We're talking a big game about how we did nothing.

[B]

Well up until that. Nothing up until that point. But he had.

[D]

He.

[B]

As I've said many times, the scariest person in Major League Baseball is Bryce Harper. And in the biggest spot imaginable, hit a tank.

[D]

Yes.

[B]

To tie the game.

[D]

Also him like the. The whole. Domrowski says he's not elite now he's Like, I will destroy you is like the great for you motivation.

[A]

I don't want to know who he voted for, but otherwise, great.

[B]

I think he voted for raw Milk.

[D]

He voted for Dukakis. He's like. Dukakis is still running. Right.

[C]

With Bull Durham.

[D]

Thought an absolutely note perfect movie that still plays. It's almost like the second half of it or like the last third of it. I say is a drama with.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Crash wandering around North Carolina barrooms. But it's so fucking funny when Nuke is on the team and they're on the bus and they're doing. Yeah. Doing all the stuff with the. The rain delays and talking about the show and really, like, a very, like, formative, like, relationship movie where I watched and I was like, is that what adult relationships are like?

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Do you eat Wheaties in a woman's Komodo? Can I look forward to that?

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

How did it shake out?

[D]

Never happened.

[B]

Okay.

[D]

But I always thought it would be hot if I could do that.

[A]

It's not too late.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

Important Costa movie, too, where, like, what I said earlier about some people, like, cementing that I'm here now. And I feel like even though he had other hits, this was the one speech. This is the one where it's like, this guy's now one of the biggest stars.

[D]

And his boxers.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

That's why this is a ballplayer. I accept.

[D]

By the way, did he have a

[B]

movie in 89 before dancing?

[C]

It was Revenge was around there somewhere. Maybe not, but then no way out was 87. Untouchables.

[A]

Field of Dreams is 89.

[B]

That's what it is.

[D]

Baseball. Baseball. That's what it is in Oscar.

[B]

That's an insane run.

[D]

Nominations, nominees. I'll take Married to the Mob.

[A]

Damn it.

[D]

So Dean Stockwell nominated for best supporting Role.

[B]

This is a blow.

[D]

He's Tony, right? God damn it. Michelle Pfeiffer's fucking throwing 101 in this movie.

[C]

You mean in 2026? In the Madison. It's great.

[B]

How's that going? You've been watching the Madison?

[A]

What is the Madison?

[C]

What are you talking about? Of course I'm watching. I support all the. All Pfeiffer content.

[A]

Is the Madison like a boutique hotel? Is it a ranch? What is it?

[C]

No, she moves to Montana. Idaho. Montana.

[D]

Idaho, I think Idaho.

[A]

Oh, Madison County.

[C]

She's in the Bridges of. There's a family tragedy.

[B]

It has that.

[D]

It has that vibe.

[A]

But is Amanda.

[C]

You would love it. She just has. She just is sad and drinking. Like. Like the biggest Glasses of wine.

[D]

I do like with her mean daughters.

[A]

I'm mixed.

[C]

Even my wife was like that poor is really. Did you create this show?

[A]

Yeah, well, you know me in the. The American West. Like, when I went to Montana, I was a little freaked out by the Lancetta.

[D]

She is too.

[A]

I don't know where to.

[D]

But then she goes back to New York and she's like, this isn't my home anymore.

[C]

It's a home run.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

It's okay. You don't have to totally watch it as you're watching. It's one of those. You can do emails.

[B]

That's how you know it's overdraft. You can write emails.

[A]

I gotta finish that story. I'm behind.

[C]

And then you're not missing much there.

[A]

No, I mean, I know what happens. I was there for that.

[C]

So I don't love this movie. So make the case for it.

[D]

I think it's just got that incredible screwball, like, almost classic screwball sensibility that still is updated for like a modern, modern times. What don't you like about it?

[C]

I don't either way. I just haven't seen it in a while. I remember thinking, do you feel like

[D]

it's kind of like My Blue Heaven where it's like people pretending to be gangsters? But you liked watching real gangster movies? Because that sometimes is a. A feeling people have about, you know, if it's not like a real, like, Goodfellas, like, Mafia movie, it's not that funny.

[C]

Yeah, it's fine. I always support my lady, Michelle.

[B]

It gets to a lot of things before Goodfellas. There are a lot of aspects of this movie that it kind of precedes in a pretty specific way. One of the great Long island movies, really one of the best representations. First 45 minutes all take place in Long island and just like the kind of suburban paradise.

[D]

Baldwin is unbelievable.

[B]

So funny and very charming and handsome at that stage of his career. But there was always one family

[D]

who

[B]

you're like, what does that guy's dad

[D]

do for a living? Yeah, he's construction, huh?

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

And he's really slick. And he's wearing a suit. Why is he wearing a black suit on a Wednesday? He doesn't go to an office. And the movies just bang on about that. And it's really funny when she moves into the city too, and she goes to chicken licking. And chicken licking, by the way, brought back in one battle after another. I think it's a great, great movie.

[C]

I'll revisit.

[D]

He does the run, where he basically like does something wild.

[C]

This.

[D]

And. And then silence is such a great. And also really three wonderful female performances. Best action silence rule.

[A]

We need to talk about.

[D]

Also silence.

[C]

The Lance through the three.

[D]

Yeah. It's an absolute cut up. True big fat person.

[B]

You know, it's only a comedy to you guys. It's very funny.

[D]

Will you do your next pick?

[C]

Migs wasn't the Funniest character of 1990.

[B]

He's up there. Okay. He's up there.

[C]

I'm up now.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

I mean, I can't believe it came back to me. Cocktail. This is Food America huge blockbuster.

[B]

Do you think you convinced a generation of mostly men to love this film? Like a generation below?

[C]

You did the rewatchables with me because you love it too.

[B]

That's my point.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

I got.

[D]

I don't know that he and I.

[A]

Look, to me, this is the most. This is a top five bill movie.

[C]

Yeah. Yeah.

[B]

Thank you. I would not know the other four.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Limitless, number 16. Also number two. Classic Devil Wears Prada. Now you and me. And then what else do I.

[C]

That's everyone's movie, though.

[A]

Yeah. No, it's true.

[C]

You don't have enough bad action in this list.

[A]

Bad action?

[C]

Yeah. Like you gotta go in the dip into the Seagal Stallone area for me.

[B]

You might be able to do that on.

[C]

You don't have a heist either. Yeah, yeah.

[A]

I'm trying to think.

[B]

No, this year has the one good Seagal movie, in my opinion.

[C]

So one of my favorite things in any movie is when somebody treats the movie like this is the most important movie of their life. But it's a movie like Cocktail Cruise is all in. We talked about this when we did the rewatch. It was about it. He's completely committed. He's treating this like he's doing Eyes Wide Shut with Kubrick in London for three years. He learns how to flip bottles.

[D]

He learns how to shoot baskets.

[C]

Yeah. Every scene he's. He's just full tilt. He's crying. He's.

[D]

He's.

[C]

He's just doing prat falls. He's trying to be sexy Cruz, he's playing all the hits. It's like, watch. I said when we did the pot. I think it's like watching an NBA player, an NBA star and a bad team just carry them to like 48 wins just literally by himself. This movie should not have worked. It's a great hang. It's on still on the streamers all the time. I feel like it hasn't died at all. It's Got a great Elizabeth shoe. Brian Brown with the Coglins law. Kelly lynch is in it. Kelly lynch is in it.

[B]

Kelly lynch, string bikini.

[C]

You get to go to Jamaica just randomly halfway through the movie for 20 minutes. That's really fun.

[B]

The showdown at the beginning in the big bar with the overhead shots where they're doing the competition, and it's like, this is a sports movie. This is like, we're watching Hoosiers right now is crazy.

[D]

Do you think anybody. I think we talked about this on Rewatchables, but now that we're back from COVID does anybody do acrobatic bartending? Or is it all like, I've put one leaf of basil.

[B]

It's more mustache, guys.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

This is another movie that they've tried to kind of steal and make again, like Coyote Ugly. Like, movies like that, where they're like, let's make campy and.

[A]

Yeah, well, you can't do it.

[C]

You can't pull it.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

But I mean, there's been bartending. There's been fun movies. Like, they even like the Roadhouse remake with Gyllenhaal. They're. They try to put, like, a giant star in a. In a dumb movie, basically. It's really hard.

[B]

Well, Cruz, and this is the first movie of his, I think, where it feels like he's taking laughing gas before every take, you know, where I'm like, is he okay? It's an insane performance. Such a weird performance. And it's almost like he's just trying to keep his energy up all the time. But it's very entertaining. I. I really like it.

[C]

By the way, the concept of the MVP for years, like, this is Cruise's MVP season, and I had both Cruise movies.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

Cruz was the 1988 MVP.

[B]

It's huge for you.

[C]

Two huge blockbuster movies. Rain man, secret force behind an Oscar movie, cocktail, carries it by himself. He's a huge star. By the end of 88, I think it's either him or Willis. Right. For MVP.

[D]

Yeah. I mean, but Willis has kind of come out of nowhere with this, and Cruz is like, it's happening.

[C]

Cruz is like, get ready for two of these a year. For the next 10 years, I'm just gonna keep doing this.

[B]

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[A]

I almost did it instead of coming to America.

[B]

Beetlejuice. Much like coming to America too. We don't acknowledge Beetlejuice. Beetlejuice. We just say the original Beetlejuice is a creative masterpiece. Another movie that probably switched me onto horror. And I don't know if I would have been as into it if I didn't see this on cable all the fucking time on hbo. Just like my previous pick. Comedy, definitely in comedy. And Tim Burton cooking. Man, I don't. You know, it's been a rough 25 years for the Tim Burton Heads, but from 1985 through 2000, I don't know if there was a director I was more obsessed with who I was more interested in whatever he was going to do next. They weren't all his, they didn't all work. But distinct style. Someone asked me the other day and I didn't answer this question properly. I probably should have, but they were like, when's the first time you were watching a movie, you realized what a director was and what they did? If you look at a Tim Burton movie, you're like, well, only one person could have made this. Only one person has this sensibility. I think the movie's really funny. Keaton, absolutely ripping that character. Going so crazy and finding a part like that for him after he had had this period in the 80s. And he has another movie this year. Year. It's a two Michael Keaton year as well.

[C]

Clean and sober.

[B]

Clean and sober. The exact opposite of Beetlejuice. It's not bad.

[C]

It's okay.

[A]

It's okay.

[B]

But Beetlejuice is like a match made in heaven. The two of them are great together. Burton and Keaton, great supporting cast. And Catholic. Catherine o' Hara is hilarious. And Winona Ryder and Baldwin again, Gina Davis. Two Gina Davis movies this year. All the musical stuff, all the creature stuff. I love Beetlejuice.

[C]

She's huge. Huge Keaton movie. Another one like Hanks with big, where it was like a lot of people had Keaton stock and he'd never been in, like, a monster hit other than Mr. Mom, maybe.

[B]

Yeah, Yeah.

[C]

I don't know. Night Shift wasn't a big hit.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

Yeah. But he hadn't been, like, the centerpiece of a huge hit. And then this leads to Batman. Yes. He's getting Batman because of this movie.

[B]

Yes. Pivotal movie, movie I love.

[D]

And you take it in comedy in common. Okay.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

I forgot to tell you. We did A Nightmare Before Christmas. The other family loved it. Locked in.

[B]

Really?

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Which was fascinating.

[D]

Not too scary at all.

[A]

No, because he woke up and was like, I need some spookies in. In the middle of March.

[B]

Anyway, Burton will change a young movie.

[A]

Yeah, I was gonna. I was gonna do that. And because you took that, then I gotta. It's gonna affect a little bit my next two picks here because.

[C]

See Christ. Going right here. Yep.

[A]

How'd you know? No, I'm going to. I definitely know my first pick, which is in drama. And it's Running on empty. The Sidney Lumet film starring River Phoenix. And back in the news, Judd Hirsch and Christine Lally.

[B]

Sure.

[A]

Back in the News from after one battle, which was a pta, I think, stated as a major inspiration. I hadn't seen it since I'd seen one battle. And the parallels are. Are certainly there. But, I mean, this movie just knocked me out when I watched it last night again. And I think Belda, the first Time I saw it was when we did the Vietnam series with Brian Raftery, which I know that you were part of the genesis of that idea. But this is a movie about two former basically, Weather Underground, a couple who are in the Weather Underground or a similar underground army, and they're on the run and they're trying to raise their sons. And amazing River Phoenix performance.

[D]

So good. Martha Plimpton's his girlfriend in this.

[A]

Yeah. And it's an amazing double feature with one battle after another, but it is so pared down compared to one battle after another. Everyone is as they should be in a PTA movie, like going to 11. And it's archetypal and ridiculous and very funny. And this is, you know as much about piano lessons and what the little kid. What kind of sandwich you're gonna have for lunch. And really, all the small moments are so observed. Anyway, amazing movie.

[B]

I think one of the best movies ever about baby boomers and them singing. Is it fire and rain in the birthday party in their house when they know that they need to move locations. And really sad, but very simple. Such a. A awesome, awesome movie. Great pick.

[A]

And then so action, horror, thriller. I would say that the one side that everything is gone but one. So, you know, Bill has two Tom Cruises, and I'm going to have two Harrison Fords. And I will take Frantic. Yes.

[B]

Polanski on the board.

[A]

Polanski on the board. And I don't really have anything to say about that. That besides that this was directed by Roman Polansky and that's filmed in. In Paris. Because that's where he is allowed to film movies. This is exactly right. Well, would this be at this point,

[D]

was that the case? Or is he just like, let's shoot this in Paris?

[A]

I don't know. I'm not.

[B]

I believe so. I believe he had fully relocated.

[C]

He was like, guys, we got to do this here.

[B]

It's Betty Buck. Oh, no, it's his. It's Polanski's. I don't know if they were married. They were.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

This movie is awesome.

[A]

This movie is so good and messed up and like, Harrison Ford being, like, a little grimier than he needs to

[D]

be a little coy in the.

[A]

In the role of man who's just trying to find his wife. Emmanuel Sene is just dressed in the smallest dresses I've ever seen in my entire life throughout. And she looks awesome.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And I wish that they had picked a different hotel. It is a very, like, 88 Hotel. It just looks like an airport lobby, but otherwise you're just going through some very weird parts of Paris.

[B]

I feel like he practiced get off my plane with like, I'm looking for my wife. Like he has a couple of those line readings where he's just very angrily looking for something.

[A]

The hair is an interesting length. He doesn't go back to that. It's sort of left over from. It's longer in Mosquito coast too. Right. But it's flopping in the front and I prefer it shorter anyway.

[C]

Premise that's been ripped off a lot.

[D]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[C]

Even with our beloved breakdown.

[A]

Sure.

[C]

Just what I've taken to this is really.

[D]

This is vanishing, basically.

[C]

Yeah. This is what. What happened to the person I care about.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

And even the scene where she disappears while he's in the shower is like. Is filmed from behind him in the shower. And the sound is. It's. I mean, it's really good. It's. It's messed up and really good.

[C]

So you have to go to Paris.

[D]

Yep.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah.

[C]

It's a good one. Good pick.

[A]

Thank you.

[B]

You have another pick, right?

[A]

No, that was it. Because I did Running on Empty.

[B]

Oh, Running on Empty, that's right. Oh, shoot. Okay. Damn.

[C]

Christ. Still here?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I might fuck around and take the last if you don't. I fuck around, don't worry about that.

[C]

I thought you liked Scorsese.

[B]

I do like Scorsese. Do I want to take it yet? Perhaps not. In thriller, action, horror, I'll be taking they live, which is nice. Pick John Carpenter's portrait of a society that is enslaved by aliens who are being sent subliminal messages on a daily basis about obeyance in the face of their power. But also is a movie about Rowdy Roddy Piper beating the shit out of

[D]

people, having one of the longest fights in alley that's ever been recorded in cinema.

[B]

Some of the coolest Keith David shit you'll ever see in your life. Piper clutching a shotgun, blowing guys away. Similarly, a movie that saw it at the right time of my life was very into Piper, as you might imagine, as a professional wrestler.

[D]

We did this as a live rewatchable pretty much after a screening of this movie at the New Beverly.

[C]

And I would say that for 100 constipated guys.

[D]

There were a couple of guys there who were a little too keyed into the personal politics of this film.

[B]

Yes.

[D]

Had no idea who we were.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

A lot of their stuff was in a white plastic bag and they were like. And what makes you an expert up here? You know?

[C]

Like, done that idea once.

[B]

It's A pretty hard movie. You know, its themes are like, you're a slave, idiot. You know, like, deal with it.

[D]

Yeah. Amazing poster.

[C]

The sunglasses thing, the shocking thing for me when we did this list was how many. I know I remember seeing in the theater. I was trying to think, like, how many times did I actually go to the movies? It was at least twice a week.

[B]

You said 75, didn't you?

[D]

What's that you were saying? I've seen. I've seen 75 of these. And I can, like, recall, even in

[C]

college, like, we would just go on, like, a Monday night, same movie theater every time. Yeah, the one in Worcester. But we just. You just do it now. I don't. I don't. I bet people go, like, I think people want to see Project Hail Mary. Like, my daughter saw it last night, but I don't know if people just like, yeah, let's go to the movies.

[B]

It's not a weekly event.

[D]

No.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

This is also, like, a weird time for, like, to remember these movies because I think this is when my dad was being like, you can just come with me. And we would be seeing this stuff at random, weird times. But a lot of these I remember from video.

[B]

Did you guys. What did you see together? Killer Clowns from Outer Space.

[D]

I remember it peaking with him getting to cut the line at the Batman premiere. And I was like, my dad is

[B]

God for one day.

[C]

That is awesome.

[D]

That is pretty cool.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Okay.

[D]

Okay.

[B]

That's my pick. Now it goes back to bs.

[C]

I have to be strategic here. Unfortunately, it's the only time I'm going to do this, because.

[D]

Is it to block me, or is it because you need to get categories?

[C]

There's only one sequel I like out of all the sequels. It won't be surprising which one it is, but it's Halloween 4.

[D]

Curse of Michael Myers Return. Sorry, Return of Michael Miles had the poster.

[C]

When we finished the studio, it was the poster that was between us for a while. Ten years after the original. One of my favorite movies of all time, Time, started seeing the ads. It was, I think, the second month I was in college, and. And my buddy Jeff, who we. We loved Halloween. Were, like, on the phone. Like, when you go in, we should try to time it the same day so we could talk about it after. It was a little disappointing, I can't lie. And then I've probably seen it 20 times since, maybe more.

[D]

We did a rewatchables about.

[C]

We did rewatchables. I think it holds up in a lot of ways.

[D]

It was a Fun rewatchables for sure.

[C]

It has the incredible, incredible scene with. Oh, that's Halloween, too. Yeah. Mixing up my Halloween when the kid

[D]

gets hit with the car.

[C]

Halloween 4 has some good.

[B]

That's an incredible scene.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

But it's. It's probably the last solid Halloween until the Halloween H20, which is 10 years after that. And it's the only sequel I like, so I had to. Had to take it. Sorry. I probably was the only one who was going to take.

[B]

No apologies necessary. I don't share the same enthusiasm.

[D]

Yeah, I have. The sequel one is fun. Just because I don't. There's not, like any, like, particularly masterful sequels. So it's like, which ones do you like?

[B]

There's a couple really cool ones, but I don't. I don't know if there's, like, a crowd pleaser.

[A]

Mine's quite bad, but.

[B]

Okay, it's.

[A]

It's for me. Okay. So. Okay, that's fine.

[D]

You got one more, Bill?

[B]

No. Oh, no.

[D]

All right, so I have Blockbuster. I have Oscar nom.

[B]

I'm still thinking about you sitting at home, not voting for Dukakis.

[D]

I need action.

[C]

I think I might have. I just don't remember.

[D]

It's possible I did.

[A]

It wasn't like an exciting. You weren't, like, taking selfies in the ballast.

[C]

Yeah, yeah. Well, because we knew he was going to lose at that point. One of the debates just killed him. And then the snl. Yeah, I remember Imitation of the John Lovett.

[B]

It was dumb. Losing to this guy.

[C]

I'm losing to this guy.

[D]

It was over when that happened in drama. I'm going to take Last Temptation of Christmas.

[A]

All right.

[D]

Entirely for Harvey Keitel's Judas. No. This is an incredible snapshot of movie history just in terms of the controversy surrounding this film. And when you actually see the movie for what it is, it's quite breathtaking. The music in it is incredible. The vision or take, which I think really comes together in the epilogue or the coda of the film, where Christ is imagining his. His life as a normal man and then realizes he's been. He's been scammed. It's just unbelievable. Dafoe is fantastic in this. There's just some really weird. Like, Bowie is. Bowie's in this. Right?

[C]

A lot of weird people.

[D]

Yes. Barbara Hershey as Mary Magdalene. So there's just a amazing thing. But, like, Scorsese was, like, essentially, like, on the Most Wanted list around the making of this film and tried to

[B]

get it made for years and couldn't get it off the ground.

[C]

It kind of sidetracked his career to some degree.

[B]

He's gonna make it in 82. He's gonna make it in 84. And then he made Color of Money so he could get this made.

[D]

Yes. Yeah.

[C]

Incredible soundtrack, which I used to listen to Peter Gabriel all the time. It was like, I put it on in the background if I'm trying to do work. Just really good. Instrumental Peter Gabriel at a good point in his career. Yeah, this movie's good, but I'm not buying, like, 4K. I do like it.

[B]

You like this movie?

[C]

I like this movie.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

It's really.

[D]

This would be a really interesting rewatch. Zane Lowe weighing in on Glast Temptation.

[B]

It honestly would be good.

[D]

Okay, so I have that in drama.

[B]

It's weird because, like, when you watch the movie and you think about it being the most controversial film of the 1980s, it seems a little silly, you know, or it's like it's an alternative reading of the life of a person who, like, is a holy person. But it's like a. It's a movie. I don't. You know, why would this offend these sensibilities so much? But it speaks to kind of what the culture was like at that time, that it was so controversial.

[C]

Way more religious back then.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

And then for comedy, I'm gonna take Naked Gun.

[A]

Okay.

[D]

Wait, I don't have a comedy. Right.

[C]

You don't have a comedy? I have to take it for Wild Card.

[D]

Oh, I have a comedy. Or I. Because I built Bull Durham as a comedy. Oh, okay. I'm gonna take Naked Gun and throw that in comm. In Wild Card, because I. I saw it so many times.

[B]

You're also. You're just missing action, horror, thriller. That's your empty category.

[D]

Yeah. Holy. So there was no way, really, to this. This is a movie that I think you watch over and over again. And then the jokes become funnier and funnier and funnier because you're seeing something that's happening in the background because you're seeing the reaction of somebody to Leslie Nielsen. Did you guys do this for Rewatchables? I don't think I was on it.

[C]

Yeah, you. I don't think you were.

[D]

No, but I kb.

[B]

It was Kyle.

[D]

Oh, it was Kyle, right?

[C]

Yeah, I think it was Kyle. It was a Kyle. Kyle demand in any case.

[D]

Like, just a hysterical.

[B]

Hysterical Rico Palazzo.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

I was saying in the theater. I think it's the hardest I've ever seen the theater laugh at any comedy. I can remember going to the Baseball highlights scene. Yeah, just a couple, like, people just, like, keeled over laughing.

[D]

And this was like a. This is a cool point because I think it was like my parents had introduced me to Blazing Saddles and we had watched some comedies, but this is one that felt like it was my. My sensibility. But they thought it was funny because, like, Roger Rabbit. I think it's referencing a lot of stuff that I was like. I don't really get some of these 70s TV cop jokes.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

But this is. It's still cracking me up so much.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

I came a few years after Airplane, so people were used to, like, these kind of jokes. The Naked Gun thing was very culty in the 80s for, like, not a lot of people saw the TV series, but people pretended they did. And then the jokes were just the corniest, funniest jokes. Nice beaver. Thank you. I just had it stuffed. It's like a million things like that. I don't feel like people do that. This movie just doesn't get made anymore. When they make it, they fuck it up.

[B]

Well, they did make the Naked Gun last year. I was going to ask you about that with regard to 2025 comedies. You weren't into it. Yeah, I liked it, though. I was pretty mixed on it.

[D]

Oh, okay. Did you like it?

[B]

I think it was more well liked than we felt about it.

[A]

Yeah, it was. I mean, I chuckled, but it was interesting being even at the screening. There were people laughing louder in that screening than in any comedy screening that I've been in in the last 10 years.

[B]

It did solidly. It was not the major hit that they wanted it to be. But I was thinking about this the other day because there's so many crazy, great comedies of this year, and we talk about comedies on the rewatchables all the time. But one of the things that I think happened is for me as a kid watching movies like this, to Chris's point, they kind of like taught me about adult things and made me feel older. Whereas now I feel like what we have is a lot of adult references in kids movies that parents acknowledge. And there's been this shift where instead of young kids trying to go to older adult comedies, you have older people going to kids for five years.

[D]

Oh, there's jokes for me inside of

[B]

this animated movie, Zootopia 2. There's a silence of the Lambs joke. And you're like, well, this is not for any 5 year old on Earth.

[A]

I think I was asleep during that

[D]

part, so it's okay, Mama.

[B]

Anyway, it's a big Shift. Because you do still get comedies. They're just for little kids.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

Bs. You got two more.

[C]

I really played this perfectly.

[B]

Sure.

[C]

Really excited about it.

[B]

Absolutely.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

I love this movie. I don't know if you guys realize I love this movie and it might have screwed up your boards, but I do love this movie. And I remember seeing it in the theater.

[A]

Oh, no.

[C]

And I've seen it a bunch of times since. And I watched it recently and I fucking love it. And it's on the rewatchables list at some point. It's an absolute banger. Dangerous Liaisons.

[D]

Oh.

[A]

Oh.

[C]

Which I'm taking for drama.

[B]

Academy Award nominated.

[C]

The ending, the last 10 minutes of this movie. And Glenn Close and everything she does. And her getting hissed at at the opera or wherever they are. And then she comes home and she's just taking the makeup off and. And he finally got her in the end. He had to, of course, die. Malkovich. Malkovich is throwing 135 miles an hour. Like, it's like one of. Did he get nominated?

[D]

He actually. Might have, actually. Let me see.

[B]

Glenn Close did. No. Michelle Pfeiffer did.

[C]

My Queen. Michelle Pfeiffer.

[D]

Pfeiffer. Close and picture, I believe.

[C]

But Malkovich didn't get nominated. That's fucking unbelievable. He's so good in this movie. You have Keanu Reeves as goofy, I guess, French guy. I don't even know what language he's supposed to be mastering in this.

[B]

But Uma, too, right?

[C]

Uma. Just out of nowhere.

[B]

So.

[C]

So the real ones knew her from Johnny B. Goode. She came in that one throwing 99 with Anthony Michael Hall.

[D]

I really signed on for season tickets with Jennifer 8.

[C]

That was later.

[D]

That was after I'm saying this.

[C]

That's when I. Yeah, but Johnny, be good on the map. And then Dangerous Liaisons. We're all in love with her. And, you know, this movie got ripped off by Cruel Intentions.

[A]

Well, my brain is. Cruel Intentions did it better. It's not ripped off. It's homage. It's tribute. Well, that's fine.

[D]

They did.

[C]

I love Cruel Intentions.

[A]

I rewatched it for this, and I was like, yeah, no, Cruel Intentions is better. I've seen cruel intentions. 3000 is the pop.

[B]

You're kind of a Steven Frears fan, too, aren't you?

[A]

I am. And, you know, they've. Again, another movie filmed in Paris. Paris in old buildings with costumes and makeup and whatever. And I just. It's. It's way better when it's Ryan Philippe driving to Bittersweet Symphony. I'm sorry.

[B]

You know, it's.

[C]

I support both. You know what? There's room in my house for each movie. It's a little close to the other

[A]

one of the Upper east side.

[D]

Come on.

[C]

This movie was a big deal when it came out, and I felt like people went to see it and cared about it and talked about it and. And it was just cool. And it had a lot of people that either were at a good point in their career or would eventually be.

[D]

It's also like. It's pretty. You know, Bridgerton obviously is probably among the two or three most popular things on whatever we call TV now. And it's like this is sort of people humping while wearing big costumes is like a very viable.

[B]

It's a good point. Structure, you know?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Eileen just buzzed through every season of Bridgerton in about 14 days.

[D]

She like it?

[B]

She's all caught up.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah, I think so. She's pretty in.

[C]

Honestly, you could say Dangerous Liaisons created that world, too. That whole Bridgerton, like, I'm sure in the past.

[D]

Being horny.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

It's up there for sure. I'm trying to think, what is the first example of that, you know? Barry Lyndon. There's a little bit of that in there.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Tom Jones.

[C]

Yeah. I do love Crow and Tan Jones. This was to me. I don't feel like you have to pick. I'm sorry.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I mean, you don't. You don't. There's grown up.

[C]

Do you like one of your kids more than the other? No. Or maybe. Maybe this is a bad day to ask.

[A]

This is where it goes wrong for Glenn Close and Oscars. Right. Because she should have. This is the one.

[C]

So who'd she lose to?

[A]

Gina? No, Jody Foster.

[D]

Oh, Jody Foster.

[C]

Jody Foster was great in that movie.

[A]

Yeah. But it's like this is probably the best shot. Was. Was she nominated for Fatal Attraction? Glenn Close?

[C]

I don't think she was.

[A]

Oh, that's also a mistake. But.

[C]

Well, Best Supporting Actor.

[B]

She was so 87.

[A]

She misses out and then she misses out again for A Dangerous Liaison.

[B]

Dangerous Liaisons is her fifth nomination.

[C]

Yeah, but Malkovich not getting Best Supporting Actor is a fucking outrage. Really? I'm looking at it now, just getting.

[D]

Does he have any.

[C]

Martin Landau and Tucker, the man in His Dream. Get the fuck out of here.

[B]

Honestly. Good movie.

[C]

Come on.

[D]

Well, Alec Guinness for Little Do.

[C]

It's pretty Little Door. Do you have little door on 4k?

[B]

I've never seen it.

[C]

Ridiculous.

[B]

Why do you. When you get mad about things like this. Why are you mad at me? Like, what do you think I represent?

[C]

No. I get mad at the Oscars and how stupid it was in the 80s and 90s. I just think they did so many dumb things.

[B]

I do like that Dean Stockwell nominee. Yeah, It's a pretty cool one.

[C]

And River Phoenix getting nominated was great.

[A]

He's amazing.

[B]

That was good. Yeah. Weird Oscars, definitely.

[D]

Malkovich got nominated for Places in the Heart and In the Line of Fire. Didn't win.

[C]

I actually thought what's the movie? When the Killing Fields.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

Thought he was awesome in that movie. Confronts. What's the same waterstone in the bathroom. I just remember saw that movie. The movie's.

[B]

It's been a long time. I did watch what's the Spalding Gray movie where he talks about his experience making the Killing Fields is Swimming to Cambodia, which the Jonathan Demme movie which he probably made right before he made Married to the Mob. What was the other one that I just rewatched that I wanted to tell you about that was so good in that era? Yeah. Oh, Empire of the Sun. Malkovich is so good in Empire of the Sun.

[D]

He's awesome in that.

[B]

And I just rewatched it.

[D]

Him and Stiller had American soldiers. Yeah.

[C]

It's a good, good, good topic of like, was his career, like, should he just have been a more famous actor? Basically.

[D]

But he also had a better actor.

[B]

But his reputation is gold.

[C]

But that's what I mean.

[B]

He's like an icon. Even though he was never a box

[D]

office star because he's one of the original Steppenwolf people.

[B]

Right.

[A]

And then he has being John Malkovich, like, you know, about him. He.

[B]

It's, it's coming back this year, though, because the new Martin McDonagh movie, he's the star with Sam Rockwell and I feel like for the first time in a long time he's going to be the star of a mainstream American movie.

[C]

He won an Oscar. That's a long standing Oscar.

[D]

Pete Berg's mile 22.

[B]

Is that a fact?

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

Was he who gave a better performance, him or Ronda Rousey in that film?

[D]

I'd have to check the tape.

[C]

I like that one solid movie.

[B]

One of the more incoherent films of that year. Is it Me?

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

Okay. I got drama sequel and Wild Card left. And in drama, I'm staying baseball. I'm going Eight Men Out. John Sayles, wonderfully embittered portrait of the Black Sox scandal that I just revisited this week. I'm really glad I did. Starring our Guy. David Strathearn as ed Secott and D.B. sweeney as shoeless Joe Jackson. John Cusack as. What's Cusack's character's name?

[D]

Eddie. No, not Eddie.

[C]

Fantasy.

[B]

Weaver. Buck Weaver.

[C]

Oh, Buck Weaver.

[B]

Yeah, right there.

[D]

He's always talking to. He's like, hey, tell him Buck sent you to the game. You know?

[B]

Yeah. Buck's such an interesting. He's the most interesting character in the movie. And he was like, the biggest star at the time. And he's the one who didn't cheat, but who didn't squeal. And so he suffered the same fate. And I was reading about him after seeing the movie, and he. You know, Weaver's family for years tried to get his name cleared in the scandal, and I don't think I totally realized this, but in 2021, his name was finally cleared by baseball and he was restored to good standing in the history of baseball. And his family was not good enough. This was too late, and they were just mad about it, which I found to be so interesting. But, yeah, Sayles movie is so good. All of his movies are about labor and power and who controls people. And this is an example of the ballplayer. It's kind of the first player empowerment movie and doesn't turn out so well for the people who try to get power in that case. But pretty good representation of baseball at that time. I feel like most of the guys, the actors are pretty good. Michael Rooker, they're all pretty believable as 1910s ballplayers. But that's only, like, a small part of the movie. A lot of the movie is courtroom drama and character drama. But really, really great film.

[D]

What a crazy cast.

[C]

I'm seething inside. I was saving it because I thought I'd be able to get it. I didn't think anyone would have that one.

[B]

This is a weird draft.

[C]

I almost think of the Dangerous Liaison spot.

[D]

I took this in another draft. I can't remember what.

[C]

This movie's awesome.

[D]

What it would have been.

[B]

Chicago draft, I think.

[D]

Chicago draft.

[C]

The ending's great. Fucking D.B. sweeney playing in some minor league in Jersey, and Buck Weavers sitting in the center. Can't play baseball. Just sitting. He's like, that's the best center fielder I ever saw.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

They're like, is that Joe? And he's like, that's not him.

[C]

Unbelievable ending.

[B]

I love that ending.

[C]

I like the hats and the outfits. Oh, yeah. This has been on the rewatchables list for, like, two years. I love this.

[D]

Who plays Comiskey? Clifton James. What's his name?

[B]

I don't remember the actor's name. I love the scene when they introduce Kennesaw Mountain Landis and, like, make him the commissioner of baseball. And they're like, like. He's like. They're like two year contract and he's like, lifetime contract.

[C]

One of the things about. Right. One of the things about this movie is this was one of the great sports books ever. And in the 80s, it was considered, like, one of. Basically one of the 10 best. So when they made the movie about it, it was a big deal. It was like, oh, they're trying to do this.

[D]

They kind of had the problem of coming out in the shadow of Bull Durham, where it was like, bull Durham's a lot more fun.

[B]

It's not fun.

[C]

1919. And it's about a scanty and. But Cusack being in it was a big deal. I didn't know who anyone else was. Straight Theron was like, I didn't know who that was. He was really great in this movie.

[B]

Yeah. To me, that's a real, like, not nominated for an Oscar. Not even acknowledged. I think he might have gotten. He's been nominated for, like, five Independent Spirit awards, all for John Sales movies. He might have won for this or maybe it was the movie before this.

[C]

But did you say who the center fielder was?

[B]

Who was the center fielder?

[C]

Chaz Shane.

[B]

Oh, that's right.

[D]

Oh, that's right.

[C]

Really believable. Like, all the actors, they made a big deal about, like, we only have actors who are good baseball players. And you can kind of feel it in the baseball scenes. The actors are. They all seem like they're very.

[D]

Has to throw like 41 miles per hour.

[B]

Yeah, well, that's kind of the point too. Is he, like. He's throwed like, 382innings.

[C]

Yeah, it's a really good movie.

[D]

Okay, so Amanda had her last two.

[A]

No, I have three left.

[D]

Oh, three left.

[A]

I have Oscar nominee, sequel and wild card.

[B]

The trick of the seven. We don't always do seven.

[A]

Yeah. So I know what I'm gonna do here in Oscar nominee. I'm gonna take my first pick. Women on the Verge of an Artist Breakdown, which is the Almodovar film. And I think it was many people's first Almodovar film and certainly mine, but not in 1988. And I was trying to remember. I think I might have been shown this in a classroom, but I can't remember having a teacher cool enough to be like, here, sit down and watch this.

[B]

It was The US Breakthrough for him for sure.

[A]

Yeah. But anyway, this to me was like a real. In a who Framed Jessica Rabbit Survey. Like, oh, movies can look like this. Obviously. The color and even the actors are all so beautiful, but they have interesting non Hollywood faces and they're framed in a certain way in the sense of humor. But I guess, you know, film as like actual museum art piece in addition to being really funny. So it's always stuck with me. Also, the clothes are just out of sight. They're very. They're very new. Chanel, actually.

[B]

But it won, right? It won international?

[A]

No, I don't think so.

[B]

No, it didn't win. What won international? Was it Pelle the Conqueror? Yes, she kind of a loaded international feature year this year. Salaam Bombay. Mira Nair, one of her first films. Her son is now the Max von Sydow for Pele the Conqueror.

[C]

Yeah. Didn't get nominated as the good Nazi in victory, though. He was the good Nazi.

[B]

He did not. He did not.

[C]

He stood up for Peleus.

[B]

When are we going to do the Seventh Seal on the rewatchables? You think we'll do that and, oh,

[D]

CR7 seal in Jacob's ladder double feature.

[C]

Yeah, Jacob's Ladder freaks me out.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

I actually, that's not a rewatchable for me. It makes me uncomfortable and unhappy.

[B]

Very effective.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Adrian, line seven is Demi and he

[C]

this movie this year, right?

[D]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Is it.

[C]

The movie did not do that well.

[D]

She's giving birth to. Right.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[D]

It's too bad. Hang in there.

[C]

Hey, listen, you gotta love your kids.

[A]

Okay? I'm gonna go to Wild Card.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

Just in case someone who gets to do Wild Card before me takes this film. Which is Crossing Delancey. Yeah, the Joan Micklin Silver movie. It's just. It's really a romantic comedy set in New York in the late 1980s and. And is about a professional. Ish woman. She works in books. It's, you know, it's one of these movies that I. That illustrated what I thought New York was going to be like when I moved there, which is that I, you know, I would work in books and have, you know, affairs with the evil doctor. From the Fugitive.

[B]

Yes.

[D]

Did you imagine putting your sneakers on and putting your heels in your bag?

[A]

Well, I mean, that's also Working Girl, you know, this is the. This is. The more, you know, she's less ambitious in crossing the landscape than Tess is in Working Girl, but. But it's the same two girls trying to make it work and find love with Enterprising businessmen. In this case, ultimately a pickle guy. A really very understanding pickle man.

[B]

He's very comedy.

[A]

He's kind of the inverse of John McClane.

[D]

You know, he was about 25, 27 years early on. Pickles, sure, but they came back. No, I mean, like, I like them, but they're not a part of my personality, you know?

[C]

Is it in this movie? You have to excuse my friend Richard Kimball.

[B]

Jerome Krabs.

[C]

Jerome Krabs, very sick.

[B]

He's like a dashing author who, like, pops in and out of her life.

[C]

I love that guy.

[B]

You switch the samples for Bravasic?

[C]

Can we just do a table reading of the fugitive? 20 people. All right.

[B]

You switched the samples very close to the headstones, but you didn't move the bodies. My other favorite line reading from that time. You moved the headstones, but you didn't move the bodies. Craig T. Nelson from Poltergeist.

[A]

Do you know that all your line readings were you just yelling?

[B]

It's just my dad yelling at me when I'm watching a movie.

[C]

That's why we love they knew with Ruffalo.

[B]

Yeah, I love a yell actor. That's why I love Ciara's impressions. They're the great yellers.

[C]

Sean, don't fuck me on this. This.

[B]

I don't know what I'm doing.

[D]

So what do you have left?

[C]

Action.

[B]

No, I already did that. I'm good.

[C]

Oh, you did? They live.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Sequel and Wild Card left.

[B]

Sequel and Wild Card. Is it better to do Wild Card before sequel? It might be. I'll tell you what I'm going to do in Wild Card. I'm doing a Fish Call Wanda, which I don't think has the legacy that it did when I was a kid.

[D]

It does not.

[A]

I'm going to be honest. I rewatched it because I remember absolutely losing my mind with laughter, thinking it was funny, and then I just sat there on the couch.

[B]

And you didn't think it was funny?

[A]

I didn't. I turned it off. I was like, I give up. And that's disrespectful.

[B]

Big Monty Python guy, obviously. So I like the idea of them, like some of those figures doing something that wasn't in that world. Specifically with a little bit more seriousness. Kevin Klein won the Oscar this year, which is a very weird win. One of the only comedy wins in the history of the Academy.

[C]

Not nominated for Daddy Dave.

[B]

Not nominated for Dave. I always really like this movie pre Oscar for Dave, directed by Charles Crichton, who was like in his 70s who had made all those Ealing comedies in the 40s and 50s and. I don't know, John Cleese, Jamie Lee Curtis hot.

[D]

I.

[A]

She. She looks amazing. I think that the recent Jamie Lee Curtis, like, Renaissance, like. Or the eighth assance.

[B]

They won't take 80s Jamie Lee Curtis from me. You couldn't take her from, like Cold Dead Hands.

[A]

She's overexposed. Exposed to me.

[D]

Well, now Jail the bear. That first time, she's just going viral now where she's just like, every time she opens her mouth, she says something that breaks news. Like she. She announced that the bear was ending. Yeah, she's like Jason Blums, a cheapskate. You know, like, she's really. She's really speaking her truth.

[B]

She is.

[C]

Amanda, are you. Are you gonna tell these kids that they're gonna lose a homeless shelter? Because we want to make people feel better about their cars.

[A]

We've been talking a lot about power loaders on. On the big picture recently. I think because of Avatar, because Edie Falco is in a power loader for a lot of Avatars.

[B]

Have you seen Avatar? Fire and Ash?

[C]

God, no.

[A]

Anyway, I just. I only think about him, Dave. You know, I once got a fish this big, which is immediately what I would do.

[B]

That's a good one.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

I was thinking that the most amazing Dave remake of all time would be if they got Shane Gillis to replace Trump as Dave.

[B]

But you can't do that.

[D]

Identical. But, yeah, I do think you're very. You're on to something very funny.

[C]

Can you imagine that movie, though? Just, I. It'll never happen. But just in your head, imagine it's a Shane Gillis movie. I don't know.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

If Shane Gillis just started doing Trump's press conferences, would you be surprised? Would you be like, this tracks for the way things are going?

[C]

Yeah. I guess that's where the movie falls apart. I watched Dave last week, actually.

[B]

Just on your own or you've made three references to it so we can tell.

[C]

Listen, it's just a phenomenal movie. The music's great, every actor's great. Sigourney Weaver's great.

[B]

That was the three of us.

[C]

Everybody's great. It's just great. It's held up 100%, if anything, VHS, given how things are going lately, what's happening. It's just a very optimistic mid-90s. I believe in stuff movie.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

I just really enjoyed it and it always gets me. Bing Rhames at the end.

[B]

Incredible Angela performance in it.

[C]

Dave. I would have Taken a bullet for you.

[B]

That's Vang. Yeah. But Langella, when he's like, oh, yeah, I kill him. He's barely a person.

[C]

It's not his office. It's my office. I mean, the movie's amazing.

[A]

The bratwurst and saving the shelter. It's beautiful.

[C]

It's in the mix again. It's been on the channels and then the stream. I feel like it's having a moment right now.

[B]

You're out on date.

[D]

I like Dave. Yeah. I have a different view of the executive branch these days.

[A]

But

[D]

you think you could run for president? Yeah.

[C]

I don't see our month a lot of momentum right now.

[D]

Yeah, it's true.

[B]

It's a good point. You should announce.

[D]

Get 11,000 votes.

[A]

But not Bill.

[B]

How would you do well? I think you would do well in this environment if you were on one of those stages with 15 other nominees in a debate.

[C]

Just. You're cracking one liners and just trying to.

[B]

I feel like you do well. Yeah.

[C]

You're just picking your spots.

[B]

But would you be like little Marco, like, oh, little Cr. All the way on the Overseer? No.

[D]

He would do the rhetorical thing that he would do on the debates. Is he. Somebody would say something and Bill Goat, you're missing a crucial point. Yeah, that's true.

[B]

That's your move.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

I would be hard on the. Are you better off than you were four years ago? Look at the mirror.

[B]

You. Yeah.

[C]

Are you?

[B]

That usually works.

[C]

Yeah. It's always good. The answer is always, no, I'm not.

[B]

You're up.

[C]

I didn't really like fish. That Fish Called Wanda just was never a fan. Saw it once in the theater. Didn't really do much for me and I've never seen it since. But other people I know really like it. Just never did it for me.

[A]

It's very weird because I remember thinking it was the funniest. And I love Monty Python too.

[B]

I did not rewatch it for this. It was. It's a movie that I remember my dad laughing at very hard. That's a very. Because he wasn't a huge comedy fan. And him loving that movie, I always thought was interesting. Maybe I should rewatch it. And it sucks and it ruins my draft. We'll see.

[C]

I saved some action movies hoping one would be available for this stage of the draft. And of course, my favorite one was for action horror thriller Bloodsport with the guy named Jean Claude Van Damme. This was his breakthrough.

[B]

You just dropped a perfect pronunciation.

[D]

I know.

[C]

I've been working on it.

[B]

That was incredible.

[C]

This is.

[B]

I feel like that was like. Jimmy just went electric. You just nailed the pronunciation. I can't believe that just happened. I know.

[C]

I nailed it. One of the great ideas ever for an action movie, the Kum. One of the best villains we've ever had in a movie.

[B]

It is good.

[C]

He's. This movie has been on for 38 straight years. Yeah. I was in Saint Barts once in 2000 and watched in another language. You watched it? What language? In like, 2000. It was on in, like, French. And I watched. I watched like, two thirds of it.

[D]

Was your wife like, what are you doing? You're in the Caribbean.

[C]

My wife was literally like, what are you doing? I'm like, hold on,

[D]

hold on.

[C]

He's about to fight Chung Lee. And then the ending. Some of the best acting of Van Damme's career with Donald Gibb, AKA Ogre. Now, anytime, any place, Some of the

[B]

more upsetting, like, bone crunching fights in movie history where you're like, did Chong Lee actually just kill that guy?

[C]

He might have. He might have.

[D]

It's like the fight version of Donald Sutherland and Julie Christie.

[B]

Is this a real blood sport? I'll give you $100 cash if you can name who directed this movie.

[A]

Do you have it on you? I thought you stopped carrying it in my bag. Get it out.

[B]

$100 cash.

[C]

I really don't know. I don't know it.

[D]

My first reaction is Ted Kochuff, but

[B]

I know it's not. That's a good. Really good guess. It does feel like a Ted Kotchev movie. No, no. His name is Newt Arnold didn't know that. He is a legendary assistant director who was the assistant director on many Lumet films. On the Godfather Part two, he did not direct many films himself.

[D]

When he's in the Kumite, do you think he's like, man, this is even better than Amanda Force.

[C]

Whitaker's in this.

[A]

I honestly.

[C]

The future Oscar Whitaker.

[B]

If we show Knox this movie, it will change his life.

[A]

Aren't they remaking, making it?

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

Aren't they doing it?

[D]

Michaela Cole.

[B]

You see this? Michaela Cole is remaking.

[C]

I'm against this. Nobody should touch blood sports.

[A]

I just spent that whole time trying to remember The. The. The St. Barth story reminded me of a time that I watched a movie starring Claire Danes and Hugh Dancy in Portuguese in Brazil on the hotel, because it was like, all that was on, and I couldn't remember the name of it. It's called Evening anyone. Patrick Wilson. Mimi Gummer. Anyway, that. And then I watched that thing you do, like, 12 times on a cruise.

[C]

Because they can't dub the songs.

[A]

Well, no, this was in. This was. But on the cruise, it was, like, 96. They had a movie on a loop. So I watched that thing you do, like, 45 times.

[B]

This goes back to my. Like, we have way too many options for people now. Like, once upon a time, you had. The reason why most of the movies I drafted, I drafted is because I just saw them in my living room, like, 48 times.

[D]

Yes.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

You're not a Bloodsport guy, Seer.

[A]

I am.

[D]

I'm.

[C]

I'm really surprised to hear this.

[D]

I like Bloodsport. It has. I. I do not revisit Bloodsport that many times. And I think it might have been a mild, like, age difference thing at 11 jcvd. Might have been, like, just a little outside of my interest.

[C]

Incredible unintentional comedy in this movie, too. Like, this movie is just perfect. It's. It was on basic cable. It'd be on local cable. It could really do anything you wanted to do.

[D]

I saw Cyborg in theater. I saw. You know, it was a cyborg or Universal Soldier. Which one's Jay? He in?

[B]

Yeah, I think he's. He's in Universal Soldier. Universal Soldier.

[D]

And then I saw the John Woo movie, Hard to Kill. Hard to Kill. So, yeah, Hard Target.

[B]

Hard Target.

[C]

Hard Target.

[A]

Hard Target was John Claude.

[B]

Hard to Kill Seagal.

[A]

At some point.

[C]

He did. He.

[A]

Yes.

[C]

He was in the big. It was. I'm gonna say the super bowl episode.

[A]

And someone is dating him.

[C]

Somebody was. Yeah, somebody's working. It was a big deal that he was on.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[D]

I still like that JCVD movie. Did you ever see that? Yeah, yeah, the meta one.

[C]

I think his two best are Bloodsport and Sudden Death. So.

[B]

But this Sudden Death, the hockey one, that one's good. Peter Hyams. Yeah, that one's a good movie.

[C]

That's. With Powers. Booth is like that one.

[D]

Powers.

[C]

All right.

[D]

Cr. Okay, so for these next two. So I have action and sequel left, or action, horror, thriller and sequel left. I'm gonna pick movies that meant a lot to me in 1988. When you're young. When you're 11, you don't know any better. So to me, Young Guns was the best Western ever made. And it is probably the Western I may have seen the most in my life because of the amount of numbers I put up in the first two years. And frankly, Young Guns. And Young Guns, too.

[B]

I rewatched it yesterday for the first time in probably more than 30 years. How is was not good. But I'd like to hear you talk about it.

[A]

Guns too.

[D]

There is a surprise death in Young Guns that shocked me to my core as an 11 year old. It also was like a rock and roll western. You know like. But Bon Jovi comes, becomes more involved obviously in Young Guns too. But this felt kind of like a Brat Pack western. It's Emilio Estevez and Kiefer Sutherland. Charlie Sheen and Lou Diamond Phillips.

[C]

Who's our guys.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

And I was like. That was why I was aware of.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Casey Shimasco.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

Terence Stamp is in this. And Jack Palance, City Slickers.

[C]

Lou diamond was hot. He's coming off La Bamba here. It was a big deal that he was in the movie.

[D]

Yeah. And I believe he plays a half Mexican, half Apache in this film.

[B]

He does.

[C]

I actually think he's kind of really good in Young Guns.

[B]

He's awesome.

[C]

I think he kind of wins the movie.

[B]

It has a really crazy scene where they all do ayahuasca. Do you remember this part? And they change the vocal intonations of all the characters. And he wears the white, white makeup in that scene. Really weird. It's like 12 or 18 minutes. It goes on for a long time.

[C]

Shane reenacted that for the next 30 years of his life.

[B]

That might have been where he described this movie.

[D]

Also inverts the usual English guy's bad Irish guys. Good thing. Where Terence Stamp is English and is being persecuted by the. The Catholic Irish cattle like mob.

[C]

I wish it was better. I really wanted to like Young Guns and really. But I think it's probably. You saw it at the perfect time to see it.

[D]

And I'll tell you something else. I'm trying to decide what to do with sequel. I'm trying to decide between two. But I'll tell you the one that I saw more and that.

[B]

Can I tell you one. Let's just say one last thing about Young Guns. You may not remember this but there's one scene where Brian Keith shows up as an old man who's come to get the heads of the young guys and he just rolls up in a wagon. Brian Keith's like 65 years old in the movie and he's having a showdown with six 23 year old gunslingers and he's just like talking to them and talking to them and then he goes let's dance. He just starts firing at everybody and then gets behind.

[D]

Doesn't he have like a big coat on? And they're like all right, old timer.

[B]

Yeah. Anyway, sorry to interrupt you.

[D]

So one of the other things that's really funny is how, like, you'll see something and think that thing is really great until you see the thing it's been based on. And so that is why I'm picking what may be the lowest rated movie I've ever selected in a movie draft. In terms of Rotten Tomatoes hanging out at about 4%.

[A]

Wow.

[D]

Caddyshack 2.

[C]

Oh, wow.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

So this is. I know that Bill hates this movie, but I also watched it a lot

[D]

because one of the first times I saw Chevy Chase and I was like, that's the funniest person I've ever seen. Yes.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

This movie is reprehensible. This is why I took Halloween four two rounds ago. I didn't want to end up with Caddyshack.

[D]

It was either going to be this, this or Friday the 13th part. It was New Blood.

[C]

I didn't even know what New Blood was.

[D]

New Blood I don't like.

[B]

There's a couple of low key cool picks in this.

[D]

I'm sure you're right. But, like, in any case, I did my research. I'm being honest about being 11. And really like watching Jackie Mason act a lot, you know, in this film,

[B]

as this is definitely my introduction to his comedy.

[D]

Jackie Hartunian, I think that's right.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

He basically is filling in the danger field role.

[C]

I think you having Last Temptation of Christ and Kadishak too. The world might end.

[B]

That's elite. I respect it.

[C]

Roof shaking.

[D]

This is another banger from Jonathan Silverman, who really had a lot going on at this era in the 80s.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

We had Weekend at Bernie's in this. Right.

[C]

I think he had a lot going on in the sense that my friends and I were all like, what's up with this guy?

[B]

Why does he keep showing?

[D]

But the reason I picked this is because Chevy Chase reprises his role as Ty Webb. And to me, I was like, this guy's the funniest thing I've ever seen. And then found out about Fletch and found out about First Cat.

[B]

Does he do the look at my watch thing with no watch on in this movie?

[D]

He also just, like, sits on a guy's lap randomly. Like, it's just.

[B]

He's having fun.

[D]

Yeah. Diane Cannon's in this film.

[B]

Fan of her work.

[D]

Yeah, that's it.

[C]

Wow. I. I don't understand why this is still on the board in Wild Card. Yeah. For me, I have my wild card left. I had a plan for This. I really feel bad. I. I feel bad. I want to call Carl Weathers and apologize for not taking Action Jackson. Thought that's what I was going to end up on.

[B]

Yeah, your guy.

[C]

But this is just the value here. Late round. It feels a little Brock Purdy Ish. Good morning. Of Vietnam. This late as a wild card. Like ADD Me just won me the draft. Thanks, guys.

[D]

Is this a movie that people love?

[B]

Well, Action Jackson.

[D]

No. Good morning, Vietnam.

[B]

Good morning. Vietnam's 87.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

Good morning Vietnam's 87.

[C]

Oh, did I write that down?

[D]

Yeah, it's December 25th, 1987.

[C]

Oh, I looked at the wrong thing. Well, maybe I didn't.

[B]

I think you might have been looking at the box office because it came

[C]

out late in 87.

[B]

I thought.

[C]

I didn't do that.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

God damn it. Okay, I don't have to apologize to Carl Weatherson. I do have to apologize to Julie Roberts and Annabelle Gish and Lily Taylor because I love Mystic Pizza and Matt Damon.

[B]

What about annabeth Gish?

[C]

Who's at the Annabeth Kish? Yeah, And I want to apologize also to Annabelle Gish.

[D]

He put it. He put all of it on jcvd and he can't do it.

[B]

Bloodsport is a knockout.

[C]

No, this is great. I'm so happy this worked out. Action J. Jackson. There should have been three of these, maybe even four. Carl Weathers. It was the one time we gave him the car keys. He delivered.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

Sharon Stone is in this movie throwing a hundred. I don't even know. They couldn't measure it. The radar gun broke like the. The glass on the radar gun. It just.

[D]

It shattered King Solomon's minds. And I was like, I love her. I don't even know how to express it, how much I love her.

[B]

For me, it was Casino.

[C]

I honestly, I've talked to Van about this. Obviously, it's inexplicable that this wasn't a franchise. I don't know what happened. I think this movie even did pretty well.

[B]

Let's find out the box office.

[D]

This movie is insanely violent. It has a ton of nudity. Right.

[C]

And who's the villain?

[A]

1988, baby.

[C]

Who is the villain in this?

[B]

Made about $11 million worldwide.

[C]

Well, maybe that's one of the reasons.

[B]

Not ideal.

[C]

Craig T. Nielsen.

[D]

Oh, that's right.

[C]

Was the evil guy. And then our guy Bill Dukes in it, too. But also forgot to mention my her as well. Vanity.

[D]

That's right.

[C]

This movie has Sharon Stone and Vanity. And I was 18 when it came out. And. And Apollo Creed's in it, trying to shed his rockiness. It's a great movie, man.

[D]

It's always so funny to check from like 85 to 2000 the people who like are the cinematographers of movies like this. And it's always like Matthew F. Leonetti. It's like some guy shot like places in the heart and then five years later he's like, all right, Vanity, step

[C]

out of the show.

[B]

The work is the work. Yeah. Okay. Well, you didn't take one away from me there, so that's good. I was not eyeing Action Jackson. I feel I got one more pick in sequel. Yeah.

[A]

And you did your homework.

[B]

So I did my homework.

[D]

Yeah. Blow my mind.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Well, the Decline of Western Civilization, Part two, the Metal Years, which is one of the best music documentaries of all time. Did you ever see this one?

[C]

It's a good one.

[B]

It's a really funny.

[D]

I don't know if I really call this in the spirit of a sequel.

[B]

It's got part two right here.

[D]

Sure.

[C]

Was there a part one, though?

[B]

There sure was.

[D]

It's about punk rock.

[C]

Rock counts solid. Okay, good pick.

[B]

I mean, come on, show it to me on opening day. Show me the respect.

[C]

This movie ended up getting her Wayne's World.

[B]

It certainly did.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

The stuff with. Is it the lead singer of Warrant in the Pool, where he's incredibly drunk and drinking vodka straight out of the bottle and his mom is living with him, is some of the funniest and saddest shit I've ever seen in my life. Ozzy is incredible in this. Gene Simmons is incredible in this. All of the style and the testimonials is really, really great. This is one of the most watchable docs of all time. It's just an ingenious idea of like very non judgmentally just showing these guys in their element and talking about what their lives are like at that point

[C]

and then not knowing, basically having no idea it was going to be filmed and consumed by other people.

[B]

Yes, yes.

[C]

Which is this movie could never happen anymore. Nobody would.

[B]

People would be self conscious.

[C]

Yeah, they would be suspicious.

[B]

No, it's like anthropology. It's such a great movie. If people haven't seen it, they should check it out. Chris is smarting over that because he didn't think to pick that one.

[D]

Well, no, I guess I didn't think about documentaries as franchises.

[B]

But hey, congratulations, there was a Part three as well.

[A]

Wow. So it is a true franchise.

[B]

Well, I haven't seen that one.

[D]

Okay, so are you done or you have.

[A]

No, I Have sequel, which is sort of. It's not the most exciting phenomenon.

[D]

Is this what you wanted for yourself, to be picking sequel last?

[A]

Well, again, I understand, you know, it's not the kicker that we want, but I didn't want someone else to take Crossing Delancey, so, sure, I did that in the last round, so.

[D]

And you would have taken Caddyshack, too, but.

[A]

Sure. And I know that the. The Rambo that is dedicated to the people of Afghanistan is still on the board, but I'm not going to be doing that one. Oh, great.

[B]

Great call.

[A]

It is. I. I'm going with a movie that none of you have even seen, which is Appointment with Death, which is the last time that Peter Usinoff played Ercole Poirot.

[D]

Great job, Amanda.

[A]

Well, it's not that good. It's. And I would say it's, like, not that good as an Agatha Christie mystery because it uses a lot of clock shenanigans that she's used a million times before. But I'm gonna read you the cast, and then I want you guys to tell me who you think did it, okay? Because that's. These. These adaptations are just a bunch of famous people. And then.

[B]

I love it. I've never seen this one, so.

[A]

Peter Usnoff is Air Cool. Paro. For the last time, he didn't do it. Lauren Bacall, Carrie Fiser, John Gilgood. Piper Lori. Haley Mills and some other people, but it's pretty good. Jenny Seve and David Soul.

[B]

Haley Mills.

[A]

Haley Mills is in it.

[C]

David Soul.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Hutch, what's this one called?

[A]

Appointment with Death.

[D]

Appointment with Death.

[B]

I'll guess Carrie Fisher.

[A]

Okay. Christopher.

[C]

Bill Bacall.

[A]

It's Bacall. Yeah, of course it's Bacall. Yeah. Also the second Poirot that she did because, remember, she's also on the Orient Express.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[D]

But she didn't do it.

[A]

They all. Well, spoiler alert for Murder on the Orient Express. But they all did, though. I think that she. Is she the mom. So, yeah, they all do it. Anyway. That's my pick.

[D]

That's a great pick.

[A]

Thanks so much.

[B]

There are a lot of sequels from this year. Okay. None of them are good. Really. The only other cool one I thought about was Police Story 2, the Jackie Chan movie, which is a really cool Jackie Chan movie that he directed. The Nightmare on Elm street movie is four. The Dream Master three. I would have taken four. No Buenos.

[C]

The horror sequels were bad. Except for Halloween 4.

[B]

Hellraiser 2's okay. It's okay.

[C]

Never Was a Hellraiser guy.

[B]

One of the biggest movies of this year, shockingly big, is Crocodile Dundee 2,

[C]

which never got it.

[D]

Me neither.

[C]

Not just didn't get it. Didn't understand why. People saw the first one, and then they made a sequel, and it's like, what's going on? They're making another one. And then people saw that, too.

[B]

It's the sixth highest grossing movie of the year. It made $109 million.

[C]

Makes no sense.

[D]

This is a real. Like, you can pay three bucks to go see this guy go. That's not an eye. Like, I guess. I guess that's what we wanted back then.

[B]

Can you do the. Like, the update to 2026 for, adjusted for inflation, 109 million. How much is that adjusted for inflation? Because, like, it's a Marvel movie for Crocodile Dundee 2.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

I never got it.

[A]

You've been to Australia.

[C]

The girl is attractive.

[A]

It's Australia, right?

[B]

Linda

[C]

liked her.

[D]

Yeah, she was great.

[B]

That was his wife in real life. Life.

[C]

I apologize to a couple movies that are honorable.

[B]

Honorably mentioned some

[C]

Great Lakes, big city. I'm sorry.

[D]

Yeah, couldn't totally get there.

[B]

Watched it for the first time last week. Didn't like it.

[C]

Yeah, it's just. Didn't make it. I wanted it to.

[B]

I think it's James Bridges, too. I love James Bridges movies.

[C]

Tequila Sunrise was another one. Just as much as I wanted to love it, it's just not a good movie.

[D]

I wanted to ask you about a movie that I have a lot of affection for, and I was wondering if you liked to talk radio.

[C]

Boan. No.

[D]

Okay.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

As a fellow Mike guy, you know, like, just.

[B]

It's a great film.

[C]

Colors was a backup drama for me in case there was a run on dramas and they didn't get it. But I don't love that movie.

[B]

You empathize with those cops or.

[C]

Well, I just don't. I like that Duval and Sean Pen are in a cop movie together, but it's. That movie is problematic. Above the Law, Seagal's first movie. It's probably the weakest Seagal, which is why I stayed away.

[D]

Best Seagal movie is that the Rafarians for Justice.

[C]

Oh, no.

[B]

Is out for Justice.

[C]

The one above the Law is the first one. They hadn't really figured out Seagal yet.

[B]

What's the Andrew Davis one? That's above the Law. That's above the Law?

[C]

No, above the Law is an Andrew Davis.

[D]

I think above the Law is directed by Andrew Davis. Yeah, it is.

[B]

It is. Yeah.

[C]

Really?

[B]

Yeah. That's the best one. That's the one.

[D]

I'm thinking a martial arts expert and former CIA agent Nico Tuscani is working as a Chicago cop on a relatively routine drug trafficking investigation.

[B]

That one is legit.

[C]

The first. First four cigals are great. Maniac Cop, I thought somebody might take.

[B]

Yeah, I watched it this week. I watched Maniac Cop and I really liked it. It would have been in my whole life.

[C]

And remaking my favorite one that I just think's a. A banger. It's a Tubi banger. Amanda.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

Masquerade with Rob Lowe.

[A]

I don't know this one.

[C]

It's an erotic thriller.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

It's. It's set in somewhere oceany and. And nice to hang out with. It's a. Who done it? It's pretty raunchy. Meg Tilly's in it. Kim Cattrall basically testing out her Sex in the City character.

[A]

It's the Hamptons.

[C]

The Hamptons. And Rob Lowe's great in it. And the movie's just good. It's like, like. And somebody good directed it. Does it say who directed that?

[A]

Oh, yeah, sorry, but I was just reading the locations. Bob Swaim, written by Dick Wolfe.

[C]

Bob Swaim written by Nick Wolf.

[B]

Wolf.

[C]

Bob Swaim. That we did. He crossed paths with the rewatchables recently with something he did. But, yeah, the only other one I had for a wild card was YouTube.

[B]

Rattle and Home tried to acquire it on DV on Blu Ray this week to get another look at it. Running about 75 bucks on eBay. Not what you want. Masquerade is no YouTube. Rattle and hum.

[D]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

Fills your nose.

[A]

What's your price limit right now? Now, you know, unless there's a sale

[B]

for a movie I'm going to watch one time for prep for a pot, I would never spend $35.

[D]

I would never want to advocate for this. But if there is a clip of it doesn't make the actual final film is of them playing with or without you in Tempe from this movie. It looks better than 98% of movies made today. And it. It's the best version of where they

[C]

would be an awesome.

[B]

Isn't it? Jeff Cronenweth, David Fincher's cinematographer, shot this movie, I think.

[C]

Think that's my favorite. Jacko and I used to do this scene all through college where the Edge is playing BB King, this thing they did. And he's like, do you like the lyrics, BB he was like, yeah, some good lyrics.

[D]

Rock and roll. Stops the traffic.

[C]

We like that movie. Was there any. What were you. What are your big regrets?

[D]

I mean, I'll say for my ones. I mean, I like dead ringers a lot. We didn't put in Willow. Nobody took Willow.

[B]

Yeah, I had Willow on my own.

[C]

So nobody took twins.

[B]

Nobody took twins.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

School Days.

[C]

Not a great movie.

[D]

This is a sentimental pick because it was just like a 1988 VHS classic. Was Satisfaction with Justine Bateman.

[C]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

And Serpent in the Rainbow, which is Craven. And School Days.

[C]

Honestly, I'm a little upset Amanda didn't take Mystic Pizza. I thought he. I thought I knew her better.

[D]

Kind of surprised.

[A]

Yeah, that was on my list.

[C]

Kept waiting for it.

[A]

It was in the wild card hard spot. But I really. I do like crossing Delancey. I feel like I've taken Mystic Pizza before in maybe not a draft, but like in a Julia Roberts hall of Fame situation. So it wasn't there. The other honorable mention that I wanted to do was just a movie I had not seen until now, which is a Handful of Dust, which is an Evelyn Waugh adaptation starring Chris and Scott Thomas as like. And it's kind of one of her main breakthroughs. Alec Ennis also shows up up and you know other people.

[C]

But figure for out possible 88 MVP

[D]

Dorrit and sample of Dust.

[A]

Judi Dench is in. You know, James will be. It's. It's. But it's, you know, a costume Ish drama that you would think I would know about. I haven't seen it and I did not. Pretty good.

[B]

Okay. I got a lot more. There's a lot of. I mean, we didn't.

[C]

We never talked about Mississippi Burning.

[B]

We didn't talk about Mississippi. It was a huge movie that year.

[D]

Big Oscar.

[C]

That was a scene in the theater movie.

[B]

Yep.

[C]

Plus Gene Hackman coming off Hoosiers now trying to. To solve racism in the deep South.

[B]

First time I ever saw Frances McDormand is in that movie and she was nominated for that movie. And she's got that heat with Hackman. But she's the wife of the racist legend. Yeah, she's great. Dirty Rotten Scoundrels.

[C]

Yeah. Never. Never really clicked with me.

[B]

Oh, interesting. Big movie from the time.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Scrooged. Also a huge movie at the time. Not my true Donner. I'm not a huge fan of it either. Some smaller ones. I really like Miracle Mile. Anthony Edwards, filmmaker. Winning him.

[C]

Johnny's on Wilshire.

[B]

Yes. The old diner, which is about la, like undergoing the big one.

[C]

Right. I like that one.

[B]

I saw Something for the first time. I don't know if any of you guys have seen it. This is one that I bought to watch because I really wanted to watch it. I know you guys like Harold Becker. I'd never seen this movie before. The Boost with James Woods. Do you know about this movie?

[D]

Oh, is that where he's doing drugs?

[B]

Yes.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

So he's playing a salesman and he's having a hard time in his career. He's married to Sean Young, who looks fabulous in this movie, and he's having a really hard time catching on and making any money living in New York. And he goes in for a job interview and he bombs the job interview. But one of the guys who's interviewing him in the interview sees something in him and he's like, I'm about to leave this company and start my own business and we're going to go out to LA and I want you to come with me and be myself.

[C]

Like what I saw in Crazy.

[B]

Same. Same shit. James woods goes out and he takes off like wildfire, selling real estate in la. And he gets boost. He gets rich really fast. Then the government changes the tax laws,

[D]

like the loophole that he was using.

[B]

Yes. And all of a sudden he's addicted to cocaine and he is massively in debt. And it's a real like, yuppie nightmare spiral movie. I thought it was really good.

[C]

Watch now on mgm, Tubi or Fubo.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

Oh, sick. I. I recently subscribed to again, I like mj.

[B]

That's on there. That you wanted to get into a movie for this.

[A]

I can't remember now, but, you know, there had been a few of them.

[C]

I think MGM strong.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

I mean, I subscribe to everything because,

[A]

I mean, me too.

[C]

I just have to.

[B]

Yeah, but the cable package stars.

[C]

No, I do all the apps. Like what? Oh, yeah, but I mean, like something

[B]

historically you were like, you. You watched all that, you.

[C]

But I really like the mgm. I think they have good movies.

[B]

Yeah. Patty Hearst. Patty Hearst. Paul Schrader's docudrama about the. No, not a fan. Okay. I like it. Vim Vendor's Wings of Desire. Probably the best movie. Not drafted here.

[D]

We didn't do Punchline or the Accused, which are just two big movies for big, big Tom Hanks. Jody Foster people we like talking about.

[B]

Jody Foster won for that.

[C]

I watched the Accused a couple years ago and it was really dated. She's really good in it. But it's very, like. Feels very 80s.

[D]

Do you like everybody's All American?

[C]

Not really.

[B]

I don't I've never seen the.

[D]

It's like Kurt Russell and Robin Williams.

[C]

Dennis isn't Dennis Quaid.

[B]

That's best of times what you're talking about. Right.

[C]

Dennis Quaid's in Everybody. It's All American with Kurt Russell.

[D]

Right. They go back to lsu, right? Something like that.

[B]

Stand and Deliver.

[D]

Yeah, almost.

[B]

Speaking of Lou Diamond Phillips was on

[C]

my wild card list.

[B]

You know, he's playing like a cholo gangster and who is also really good at calculus.

[D]

Yeah. Great movie idea.

[B]

Edward James Olmos, Gorillas in the Mist, Sigourney Weaver.

[C]

Yeah, I don't love that movie.

[A]

I mean, I never got it either. Yeah.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

Respect to Sigourney Weaver, though. She was nominated both for that and Working Girl. I vote Working Girl, obviously.

[D]

Okay.

[B]

We mentioned Tucker, the Unbearable Lightness of Being ddl. Early ddl.

[A]

Yeah. That's a movie. We didn't say Beaches.

[B]

Beaches.

[A]

That was a thing.

[B]

It sure was. We were talking yesterday about the Wind being.

[D]

Are you a Beaches fan?

[A]

I didn't draft it.

[D]

I guess not.

[A]

I think Wind Beneath My Wings, like, I had to sing in elementary school at some point, you know, so that's kind of the. The long tail of the Beaches effect for me.

[C]

I mean, honestly, License to Drive, I guess, was the best of all the 80s teen movies, and I don't think that should have been drafted. And the Deadpool was probably the most disappointing because that was like, Clinton, Clint, Dirty Harry's back, and it just sucked.

[B]

Well, because Clint was putting all his energy into Bird, the movie he directed that year about Charlie Parker with Forest Parker. Yeah.

[C]

I thought you were gonna say he was putting his energy into taking down

[B]

babes when he said, that's running Carmel.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

Well, I don't think he was mayor at that time.

[D]

Not yet.

[B]

I think it was in the early 90s. Right.

[C]

Post Unforgiven, I thought the sequels were incredibly disappointing.

[B]

It's a tough year.

[C]

Like, really, like, bad versions of movies that had peaked, like, three movies earlier. Basically.

[B]

Better for the pod, though.

[C]

No, I know, but it's just like, I was surprised there wasn't like, oh, that kind of. Don't mind that. Friday the 13th there was, like, none of those for me.

[B]

Didn't we have, like, a plethora of them in 89? I feel like we had a bunch to choose from.

[A]

Yeah. Because the top 10 was all. Either was Batman and. Or I think it's Ghostbusters.

[D]

Last Crusade.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[C]

Last Crusader was Arthur, too. On the rocks, where they were like, is there anything left Here. No.

[B]

What'd you think of the Arthur remake with Russell Brand?

[C]

Did that happen?

[D]

Isn't Greta Gerwig in that?

[B]

She is. She's a female lead. Yeah. Did you like it?

[A]

Oh, I forgot about that.

[B]

Wow.

[C]

I forgot that happened. Greta Gerwig's in there.

[D]

She was like. It was like that. She did that and then she was gonna make the How I Met yout Mother sequel and did. But it wound up becoming a great auteur.

[B]

Any closing thoughts?

[D]

No. I mean, I'm trying to think if we missed anything. I think we talked about everything for the most part. Should we recap teams?

[B]

Yeah, recap our teams. Okay, so CR had the first pick. So you go first, Chris.

[D]

In Drama, I had the Last Temptation of Christ. In comedy, I had Bull Durham. In action horror thriller, I took Young Gun In Oscar nominee Married to the Mob. In sequel, Caddyshack 2.4% in blockbuster Die Hard. And in Wild Card, naked gun.

[B]

Okay, BS solid.

[C]

Caddyshack 2 really hurt you?

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

Dangerous Liaisons for drama, Bloodsport, action, Rain Man, Oscar nominee Midnight Run for comedy, Halloween 4 for sequel, Cocktail for blockbuster and Action Jackson for Wild Card. I'm feeling good about that.

[D]

That's a good class, man.

[B]

Solid.

[C]

Feels very 1988ish. Feels like me. You know what it does? That has a little scent of me in that list.

[B]

Well, how would you describe that scent?

[D]

It smells like the garden.

[B]

Yeah, just like.

[C]

Smells like popcorn and happiness.

[B]

A worn in second baseman's glove. Speaking of, for my picks, Drama, I had eight Men Out. Comedy, I had Beetlejuice, action, horror, thriller, I had have they Live? Oscar nominee, I have who Framed Roger Rabbit sequel, the Decline of Western Civilization, Part two, the Metal Years.

[C]

It's a cheat.

[A]

Blockbuster, you were with him in the moment, but now you're turning.

[C]

No, it's just Sean cheated. But it's his pod. On your own pod, you can cheat.

[B]

You did not cheat. It is definitively cheated as well.

[D]

Do we even post these for votes anymore?

[B]

We do.

[D]

We do.

[B]

Yeah. We post them on CR Heads. Blockbuster, I got Big. And Wild Card, I got A Fucking Fish Called Wanda.

[C]

Okay, interesting. I don't know who won this one. In Drama's got some breaks.

[A]

In Drama have Running On Empty. In comedy, Working Girl. In action horror thriller, Frantic. In Oscar nominee Women on the Verge of a Nervous Breakdown. In sequel, Appointment With Death. In Blockbuster, Coming to America. And in Wild Card Crossing Delancey, it's

[D]

between these two, I think. I think we picked our hearts.

[A]

I picked with my heart and we

[B]

did, you know, you did not movie on here. I don't like.

[D]

We're fringe, you know. And you, you know, like the kumite. It's just like sometimes you have to go.

[B]

Yeah, sometimes when the vote happens.

[C]

Bloodsport and Action Jackson. Come on, guys. What are we doing?

[A]

Will you vote in this vote?

[C]

Yeah, I'll vote for myself.

[B]

You wouldn't vote for Michael Dukakis.

[D]

That's the thing is like you wanted to, but it's like it was harder back there.

[C]

I might have voted. I really might have.

[D]

And I might have voted for Carrie. I just can't remember.

[C]

I didn't remember doing Blood diamond rewatchables with cr, which was six years ago.

[A]

I remember listening to that. I know exactly where I was when you started doing those accents.

[B]

Chris, in a meeting right before this pod, was just openly referring to Danny Archer as though he were like a very famous movie character that we all know and love. Danny Archer.

[D]

Danny at you CIA.

[B]

Okay, well, thanks very much to our producer Jack Sanders for his work on this episode. Thanks to Lucas Kavanaugh and Jacob Cornette for production support. Next week, we'll talk about the best movies of the year so far at the end of the first three months. And 10 movies that we missed during Oscars season.

[C]

Movies came out this year.

[B]

A lot of movies, actually. Have you been catching up?

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Do you feel ready?

[A]

Well, I've learned a lot about Peaky Blinders and I can't wait to share it with you.

[D]

The Immortal Man.

[A]

Yes, I know.

[B]

Peak Blinders. You in on that?

[D]

Tommy Shelby? Yeah.

[C]

Never got in. When is this running?

[B]

On Friday? Nope. Tomorrow morning. That's what I thought. Thursday morning.

[C]

Sorry, when is crime 101 gonna be on a streamer?

[D]

It's not on Amazon right now.

[B]

It should be on Amazon pretty soon.

[D]

It's on Amazon.

[B]

I do need your thoughts.

[C]

I've been waiting. Cause I really was. I just don't understand it.

[D]

One of my favorite occurrences is Van calls me and I'm like, oh, no, what happened? And he's just a crime 101. It could have been better. And he's like, I won't take much of your time, but crime 101 could have been better. And I'm like, I agree, but I

[A]

didn't have a bad time.

[B]

I like, I. I need to know. You're the tiebreaker. I really need to know because you were a little colder on it than I expected to be. And we didn't get a chance to talk about it. It's like pretty good. It's not great.

[D]

We did the pod together, man.

[A]

Oh, that's great. But you were.

[B]

You were like.

[A]

Yeah, but you.

[D]

You insulted a little bit.

[A]

It's.

[B]

I mean, I, like, liked it.

[C]

Is it better than Hamnet?

[B]

My. In my opinion, yes. The first hour of Crime 101 blows the first hour out of the water.

[D]

Do you feel that way?

[B]

I don't think the first hour of Hamnet, I. I hated the tree, but she was like. The second hour of Hamnet is phenomenal.

[D]

But it's just Hamlet.

[B]

Well, yeah, I approve of that part. All right, Bill Simmons, thank you so much for doing this. Cr. Thank you. We'll see you soon.

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