The 1989 Movie Draft

Summary

The Big Picture: The 1989 Movie Draft

Host: Sean Fennessey
Co-Hosts: Amanda Dobbins, Chris Ryan
Date: November 3, 2025

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Overview

In this engaging, wide-ranging episode, Sean, Amanda, and Chris convene to draft their favorite films from the massive, culture-shifting movie year of 1989. Equal parts nostalgia trip, genre analysis, and friendly banter, the conversation covers lasting classics, shifting industry trends, franchise fatigue, evolving stars, and the peculiar pull of movies both highbrow and comfort-food. The draft format pushes the trio to defend their choices (and steal picks from each other), while anecdotes and pop culture references fly fast and loose.

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Key Topics & Insights

1. Begin with the Year in Context

• Why 1989?
  • A true pivot point: End of '80s mainstream sensibilities, birth of '90s indie boom (Sex, Lies, and Videotape, Do the Right Thing) and the rom-com renaissance (When Harry Met Sally).
  • A culture of both mega-franchises and mid-budget, adult-skewing dramas and comedies.
  • The trio reflects on their personal ages and connections to the year's movies—ranging from VHS-fueled fandom to playground memories.

"This is a pretty important pivoting time for horror. It's kind of horror entering a real down period—end of slasher before we get to Scream."
— Sean Fennessey (24:15)

2. Hollywood's Changing Landscape

• Franchise Domination
  • The box office champions are Batman, Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade, Lethal Weapon 2, Back to the Future Part II—sequels and franchise films launching a new Hollywood strategy.
  • Yet, the year is also marked by original adult dramas and comedies—something the hosts lament as increasingly rare now.

"This is the thing we are literally saying when we say 'the middle': these are the movies that make $80 million and they're profitable and they win awards and they're in the culture at large. This year is littered with them."
— Sean (28:06)

3. Standout Films and Genre Shifts

• Rom-Com Revolution:
  • "When Harry Met Sally" is crowned the modern template for the genre.
• Indie Breakthroughs:
  • "Sex, Lies, and Videotape" and "Do the Right Thing" mark arrival of Soderbergh and solidification of Spike Lee.
• Blockbuster Redefinition:
  • Tim Burton's "Batman" becomes a pop culture phenomenon.
• Other Notables:
  • "Dead Poets Society" as an emotional touchstone; "Field of Dreams" as quintessential dad/son baseball weepie.
• Lessons from the Draft:
  • The hosts grapple with balancing canon-worthy “best” picks and nostalgic favorites.
  • Surprising depth: Many classics left undrafted.

“1989 produced more iconic scenes and memorable movie moments than almost any other in my lifetime... so many scenes from moments from movies of this year where you would see it in a historical Oscar montage.”
— Chris Ryan (34:31)

4. The Draft: Strategy and Rivalry

• Categories Chosen:
  • Drama, Comedy, Action/Horror/Thriller, Oscar Nominee, Sequel, Blockbuster ($75M+), Wild Card.
• Difficult Choices:
  • Amanda sacrifices for "When Harry Met Sally" in Blockbuster—“I can’t not have it.”
  • Chris lands both “Do the Right Thing” (drama) and “Field of Dreams” (Oscar nominee), leading Sean to declare: "We’re getting our heads blown off by Chris in this draft..."
• Personal Anecdotes:
  • Chris's childhood baseball league “shout-outs,” Amanda’s Halloween and parenting stories, Sean’s video store nostalgia.
  • Regular teasing about “male bro-y” picks, “Star Wars Mommy” futures, and the enduring power of video games in family life.

5. Memorable Quotes & Moments

• On Franchise Fatigue:

  "There have been 10 Star Wars shows in six years... and there still has not been one [Star Wars] movie. Which is just malpractice."
  — Sean (05:04)

• On 'When Harry Met Sally' Legacy:

  "It is the best and most influential romantic comedy of my lifetime. The modern romantic comedy era starts here."
  — Amanda (33:28)

• On 'Do the Right Thing’s' Impact:

  "Can't overstate the lightning bolt effect this movie had on my life... Public Enemy and Spike Lee... a historically relevant moment that we were living through."
  — Chris (35:32)

• On Movie Openers/Fame Now:

  “No one can open a movie [on star power alone]... There are no movies, no one can open a movie… not a single person now who guarantees a movie opening.”
  — Amanda (26:22)

• On Aging with Movies:

  "You watch 'Say Anything' at 15 and Lloyd Dobler is one person, and then you watch it at 30 or 35 and think—that’s my husband."
  — Amanda (64:00)

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Timestamps by Section & Notable Draft Picks

| Timestamp | Topic / Quote / Draft Pick | |------------|-------------------------------------------------------------| | 18:59 | Chris: “This is a huge VHS year for me...” | | 34:03 | Draft begins – Amanda: "I can't not have When Harry Met Sally" (Blockbuster) | | 34:55 | Chris: “I'm going to go with Do The Right Thing” (Drama) | | 38:20 | Sean: “I'm taking Batman” (Action/Horror/Thriller) | | 42:08 | Sean: "Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade" (Sequel) | | 44:49 | Chris: “In Oscar, I'm going to take Field of Dreams” | | 47:39 | Amanda: “Ghostbusters II” (Action/Horror/Thriller) | | 51:02 | Amanda: “In comedy, I’m taking Heathers” | | 54:48 | Chris: “In Blockbuster, Dead Poets Society” | | 58:46 | Sean: "In Oscar nominee, I'll be taking Sex, Lies and Videotape" | | 61:48 | Sean: “I think I'll take Say Anything in comedy.” | | 67:55 | Chris: “In comedy: Parenthood” | | 70:01 | Amanda: “In drama: Born on the 4th of July” | | 72:24 | Amanda: “In sequel: National Lampoon’s Christmas Vacation” | | 89:23 | Chris: “I'm going to pick Road House for Action/Horror/Thriller”| | 93:05 | Amanda: “In Oscar nominee: The Little Mermaid” | | 97:41 | Amanda: “In wild card: Troop Beverly Hills” | |101:09 | Chris: “In wild card: Major League” | |102:49 | Sean: “In wild card: Roger & Me” |

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Other Podcast Highlights

Star Wars News & Franchise Speculation

• Humor over rumors of a Soderbergh/Adam Driver/Scott Z. Burns “Ben Solo” movie pitch to Lucasfilm/Disney:

  “If you ever decide to pivot to being Star Wars Mommy, you're unstoppable.”
  — Chris (04:00)

Parenting & Video Games

• Amanda maintains her hard line against allowing video games at home, setting up future podcast comedy fuel (15:19).

Call of Duty & Franchise Film Adaptations

• The trio discuss Taylor Sheridan’s switch to Universal, the ongoing struggle to get a Call of Duty movie made, and the recycling of intellectual properties through new media and genres (12:23).

Industry Reflections

• Comparing the star system of 1989 (Costner, Cruise, Williams) with today’s “no openers” era.
• Acknowledging the pivotal role of “Sex, Lies, and Videotape” in launching 1990s indie cinema/Sundance acolyte careers.

Personal Memories

• All hosts reflect on how they first encountered these films, VHS vs. theaters, and their parents’ movie viewing—an endearing touchpoint.

Comedy & Banter

• Regular teases about who “really” deserves certain picks, e.g., Amanda defending “When Harry Met Sally” early.
• Chris’s appreciation for the “female body investigator” hat as a VHS-era artifact (91:31).
• Spirited digressions about Halloween parenting, drafting tactics, and working mother woes.

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Undrafted & Honorable Mentions

The episode closes with each host bemoaning classics and cult favorites that went undrafted for sheer lack of space. Notables include:

• Crimes and Misdemeanors
• Bill & Ted’s Excellent Adventure
• Major League (eventually chosen)
• Steel Magnolias
• Drugstore Cowboy
• Weekend at Bernie’s
• The Abyss
• The War of the Roses
• Dead Calm
• The Fabulous Baker Boys (chosen later)
• Tango & Cash
• Pet Sematary
• The Burbs
• My Left Foot
• Lean on Me
• Troop Beverly Hills (chosen by Amanda for wild card)

Noting the year’s riches, Sean quips:

“Should this have been a mega movie draft?” (100:47)

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Final Draft Selections

(For each host; approximate picks given the sequence above.)

Amanda:

• When Harry Met Sally (Blockbuster)
• Ghostbusters II (Action/Horror/Thriller)
• Heathers (Comedy)
• Born on the Fourth of July (Drama)
• National Lampoon's Christmas Vacation (Sequel)
• The Little Mermaid (Oscar Nominee)
• Troop Beverly Hills (Wild Card)

Chris:

• Do the Right Thing (Drama)
• Field of Dreams (Oscar Nominee)
• Dead Poets Society (Blockbuster)
• Parenthood (Comedy)
• Lethal Weapon 2 (Sequel)
• Road House (Action/Horror/Thriller)
• Major League (Wild Card)

Sean:

• Batman (Action/Horror/Thriller)
• Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade (Sequel)
• Sex, Lies and Videotape (Oscar Nominee)
• Say Anything (Comedy)
• Back to the Future Part II (Blockbuster)
• The Fabulous Baker Boys (Drama)
• Roger & Me (Wild Card)

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Closing Thoughts

All agree: 1989 stands out as a year that marks both the end and beginning of film eras. Blockbusters and franchises loom, but the indies and mid-budget dramas set the stage for the '90s. The deeply personal connections to these films, whether via video store fidelity or movie-night memories, are what fuel The Big Picture's patented mix of criticism, cheerleading, and communal nostalgia.

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End of episode summary.

Transcript

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[Sean Fennessy]

I'm Sean Fennessy.

[Amanda Davis]

I'm Amanda Davis.

[Sean Fennessy]

And this is the Big Picture 8 conversation show about 1989. Of course, we're potting today about the Taylor Swift album and Chris Ryan is here to do so. Are you excited?

[Chris Ryan]

Are we out of the woods?

[Sean Fennessy]

You know, is that song on that album?

[Amanda Davis]

Have you listened to that album in full?

[Sean Fennessy]

Yes. So, yeah, I think just ambiently I've been exposed to it.

[Amanda Davis]

No, I remember that. But, you know, he was well into his, like, I don't acknowledge Taylor Swift take at this point in the. In the journey.

[Sean Fennessy]

Well into it. Absolutely.

[Amanda Davis]

So I just didn't know whether you circled back.

[Sean Fennessy]

Stock's been paying out hard.

[Chris Ryan]

I was wondering if you catch that ticket.

[Sean Fennessy]

He's sitting on a lot of dough off that Taylor Swift short sell. We're actually talking about 1989 movies this year. We're drafting again, which is very exciting. But, you know, we're prerecording this episode and there's been a lot of news over the last couple of weeks and we, the three of us haven't been together and had the opportunity to talk.

[Chris Ryan]

The big three.

[Amanda Davis]

Yeah, the big three. Here we are.

[Sean Fennessy]

Yeah, the big three. And we never talked about the hunt for Ben Solo. And there's two people I couldn't find two people I would want to talk to more about this news.

[Chris Ryan]

Sex, lies and Solo.

[Sean Fennessy]

This was the news that Steven Soderbergh and Adam Driver came together to develop and pitch a movie about what happened to Ben Solo after He died. He died in the last Star wars film. And.

[Amanda Davis]

Well, that's not what the movie. That's not what the pitch was about.

[Sean Fennessy]

I think it was that he somehow survived.

[Amanda Davis]

Yes.

[Sean Fennessy]

Yeah.

[Amanda Davis]

It wasn't about Ben Solo's journey through the afterworld.

[Sean Fennessy]

You know, that is also what dreams may come. But Ben Solo, that would be a.

[Chris Ryan]

Movie like the Nick Cave version of Gladiator 2.

[Sean Fennessy]

Oh. Oh, wow.

[Chris Ryan]

Maximus in Hell.

[Sean Fennessy]

Halo Goes to Hell. That would also be really fun. So Soderbergh and Driver, they get this pitch together. Obviously, very exciting, the idea of them working together again. They work together on Logan Lucky, and it goes up the chain.

[Chris Ryan]

And Scott Z. Burns, like, writes it.

[Sean Fennessy]

Yes. So Scott Z. Burns is in. He's, of course, worked with Soderbergh many times before on Contagion especially. And they pitch it to Filoni and Kathy Kennedy, and they're like, sure, maybe. And so they kick it up to Bob Iger's office, and Bob Iger looks them in the eyes and says, no, no chance. And then that's it.

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But.

[Amanda Davis]

And. But why? What is his reasoning?

[Sean Fennessy]

What is his reasoning?

[Amanda Davis]

His reasoning is because Kylo, like, Kylo Ren, whatever his other name is, already forgot is dead.

[Chris Ryan]

Yes. Somebody took the focus group note about. You can't say, somehow Palpatine has returned.

[Amanda Davis]

That was literally my. I was so ashamed of myself. And also. Yes. And, like, it's so angry at you and this world that my first reaction to this, I was like, but Palpatine was dead. What are we doing, Solo?

[Sean Fennessy]

Return.

[Chris Ryan]

I have to tell you something.

[Sean Fennessy]

Yeah.

[Chris Ryan]

If you ever decide. Yeah. To pivot to being Star Wars Mommy. You're unstoppable. There's nothing he and I can do if you're just like, you know what, guys?

[Sean Fennessy]

I'm going all the way. Yeah.

[Chris Ryan]

I've read the book of Boba Fett.

[Amanda Davis]

Yeah.

[Chris Ryan]

And I've become a believer. We're done. We're done. We can't stop.

[Sean Fennessy]

That's true. That's very true. So, sincerely.

[Amanda Davis]

Yes.

[Sean Fennessy]

Would you want this movie?

[Chris Ryan]

Yes. I don't care.

[Amanda Davis]

Sure. But do I want it more than many other movies that. Well, no, no, no, no.

[Sean Fennessy]

That's the take to me.

[Amanda Davis]

But you're taking my take before I've said it and twisted it.

[Sean Fennessy]

How did I twist it?

[Amanda Davis]

We're gonna talk about some other movies that are being made that are adapted from franchises that are supposed to be for. I don't give a shit. I don't even wanna talk about Call of Duty, you know? Like, I don't care. So let's not make that. If we're gonna make big budget movies, if we're gonna use people's time, if we have to chase the money, Give it to me with Steven Soderbergh and Adam Driver.

[Sean Fennessy]

Well, that's my take, is that it's replacing, at least in theory, one to one another Star wars movie, so that you can only do so many Star wars movies at a time and there still has not been one. It's been six years since there's been a Star wars movie, which is just malpractice. I mean, it's just completely l. There have been 10 Star wars shows in six years.

[Amanda Davis]

Okay, time out, Time out. I mean that. Two separate problems here. Because I still remember the end of 2019. We were in your guest room in Palm Springs before you arrived. The orange room in the back by the garage. Remember that? Yeah. Recording a podcast and you just. Absolutely. You had a classic Sean meltdown about Rise of Skywalker and how it's not good, which it was not.

[Sean Fennessy]

I had a really good pod performance is what you meant to say.

[Amanda Davis]

And, and a lot of the complaints were like, we have too much Star Wars. We have too many movies. They've, you know, they don't have ideas. They've, you know, like they've squeezed the orange too much or whatever. I don't know. What do you squeeze?

[Sean Fennessy]

Yes, squeeze oranges.

[Amanda Davis]

They squeeze the orange. And. And it's done now.

[Sean Fennessy]

And that wasn't my complaint, but sure.

[Amanda Davis]

You can't turn around if you go.

[Sean Fennessy]

Back and listen to that episode. It was not, there are too many Star wars movies. It was that. Why did we bring back JJ Abrams to make another Star wars movie and then commit all these sins in this Star wars movie? Now it was a good time to.

[Amanda Davis]

Take a break, including, and we should all be honest, Palpatine is alive again. That was terrible. We were all, even I apoplectic. Yeah. So I was like, wait, look, if.

[Chris Ryan]

You say Steven Soderbergh's gonna direct it, I'm like, I'm gonna hear him out. I'm just going to hear him out. Now I will say I can't. Did it. Has it been reported when they pitched this?

[Sean Fennessy]

I don't know. It's actually in the last 12 months because there is that history of him in his culture diary where he had a, like a 20 day stretch where he watched nine Star wars movies, including, I think, Empire and A New Hope, like three times because he was trying to get back to, you know, he watched Phantom Menace. And everybody was like, why the did Steven Soderbergh just watch the Phantom Menace?

[Chris Ryan]

Cuz I was going to say, I can kind of see it from Bob. Bob Iger's perspective where he's just like this so badly. And you know what? We've abandoned the center in this country. No, I can see it from his perspective where he's just like, I'm. I'm done with this. I'm done with the.

[Sean Fennessy]

The Rey.

[Chris Ryan]

Ky. Kylo. It ended badly.

[Amanda Davis]

Okay.

[Chris Ryan]

Those movies, you know, reportedly.

[Amanda Davis]

I was so mad. I was so mad about that.

[Sean Fennessy]

But they kissed.

[Amanda Davis]

Yeah.

[Sean Fennessy]

Because you don't want them. No.

[Chris Ryan]

Star Wars, Mom.

[Amanda Davis]

It really was. You're gonna, you know, roll out like, oh, the new character that you're all supposed to care about is like a girl and yay. Like, you know, it was like she. Oh, heaven. And then at the end, she just has to be like a love interest. No, come on. Come on.

[Sean Fennessy]

I will say, when I was at Disneyland earlier this year, my daughter met a young woman who was portraying Ray at Galaxy's Edge. And it's probably the happiest that Alice ever was in her entire life.

[Amanda Davis]

But so we don't.

[Sean Fennessy]

There's a picture of it that melts my heart.

[Amanda Davis]

I have seen the picture. You also sent us the moving version, which was very cute. So we have multiple records of it. It's one for me.

[Sean Fennessy]

Ray is very. Is in the hall of fame.

[Amanda Davis]

I'm not dissing Ray. I'm dissing that we are teaching Alice at the end. It's not enough to conquer the world. You also have to, like, kiss and make up with the villain. Thumbs down. Okay, well, you know, I want Alice.

[Sean Fennessy]

To go thrive more of an epic romance, you know, a story of longing over a trilogy.

[Chris Ryan]

What I want is the Scott Burton scriptural leak. I don't know if it was completed, you know, or whatever, but that is.

[Sean Fennessy]

That would be cool.

[Chris Ryan]

Please get that out there.

[Sean Fennessy]

I think it's mostly because there have been so many TV shows is why I'm stamping my feet about not having a movie. Well, I stopped. I mean, I stopped two or three years ago. I'm not. I'm just not really paying. I'm not engaged at all in that world right now.

[Chris Ryan]

You didn't watch Andor even I didn't.

[Sean Fennessy]

I still haven't even seen Andor season 2.

[Amanda Davis]

I haven't caught up either. Zach, watch without me.

[Sean Fennessy]

It's like. It's like something got unplugged in my body. You know what I mean? Like I've just kind of lost a connection to something that was incredibly important to me for a very long time. And it's. I think it's in part because they just overloaded on that stuff. That's.

[Chris Ryan]

Do you plan on catching up before Mandalorian and Grogu comes out or you just go into that kind of like.

[Sean Fennessy]

Do you think I have to?

[Chris Ryan]

I don't.

[Sean Fennessy]

I mean, I do want to watch Andor. It's not that I don't want to watch it. It's more just that the idea of, like, finding that focus. Time over a long period of time is just becoming increasingly harder in my life. But if it's not connected, it will probably delay the time in which I can get to it. Sure. And I'm sure most of what I see instead of watching Andor will be much worse than whatever Andor is.

[Chris Ryan]

Yeah. No, I don't think you're like, I couldn't possibly waste my time on.

[Sean Fennessy]

It's not that. Definitely not that. I'm watching the Chair Company.

[Amanda Davis]

I know, sure. Yeah. No, I'm. Listen, I haven't even finished the Diplomat, and I gotta do. Nobody wants this.

[Chris Ryan]

That I think you'll like is down Cemetery Road.

[Amanda Davis]

I have literally no idea what that is.

[Chris Ryan]

It's Emma Thompson and Ruth Wilson. Oh, sick mystery in Oxford. Emma Thomas. It's Nick Karen's other detective series.

[Amanda Davis]

Oh, my gosh. This is so exciting. I'm learning about this in real time.

[Chris Ryan]

Oh, yeah. You'll fucking love this.

[Amanda Davis]

Well, I mean, we got to. I mean, we got to stop watching movies then, you know, because, like, it's really piling up for me.

[Sean Fennessy]

It is piling up for me as well. Speaking of writer directors and returning to.

[Amanda Davis]

Movies, Chris Ryan is here.

[Sean Fennessy]

Well, Taylor Sheridan's been in the news over the last week, commented on this early days.

[Amanda Davis]

And so you have as well.

[Sean Fennessy]

That's right. Well, everyone thought of you when this news broke, when Matt Bellamy broke this news that Taylor Sheridan was leaving Paramount to sign an overall deal that starts, I guess, next year on the film side at Peacock Universal, and then in 2028 on the television side. So a fairly complex situation.

[Chris Ryan]

And he also has a Warner Brothers film incoming with Brandon Skinar from 1923. It's called fast.

[Amanda Davis]

Was he also the other guy in the Blake Lively? Justin Baldoni, he was the other guy.

[Sean Fennessy]

He also appeared earlier this year in Drop. Sure. He has a big role coming in the housemaid.

[Amanda Davis]

That's right.

[Sean Fennessy]

Yes.

[Amanda Davis]

Yeah, they're pushing him.

[Sean Fennessy]

Yes. He's having a moment he's kind of like the normcore Josh o', Connor where it's like, why are there five Josh o' Connor movies right now?

[Amanda Davis]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Sean Fennessy]

So he's got this Warner Brothers movie. News broke this week as well that the movie that I guess kind of kicked some of this into disrepair was this Call of Duty film that he's been writing and producing for Pete Berg at Paramount. And you said something on the watch that I completely agreed with, which is that Taylor Sheridan's screenwriter is something I have always liked. And I think three out of his four movie scripts I think are really good, and the fourth one he directed, and I don't think it's as good.

[Chris Ryan]

For those who wish me dead.

[Sean Fennessy]

Yeah.

[Chris Ryan]

Pretty good movie.

[Sean Fennessy]

Yeah, it was fine. It's okay.

[Chris Ryan]

And also, listen, I think it's the.

[Sean Fennessy]

Least of the others. Well, I think Hell or High Water Sicario.

[Chris Ryan]

It's better than Without Remorse.

[Sean Fennessy]

Yeah, I forgot about. He wrote Without Remorse as well. Okay, well, that was some version of it.

[Chris Ryan]

Was credited as a screenwriter.

[Sean Fennessy]

Okay, interesting. That one wasn't very good either. But, you know, he makes a very muscular, masculine, throwbacky kind of film that usually has one interesting theme.

[Amanda Davis]

And yet when a woman is in it, you don't like it.

[Sean Fennessy]

No. I thought Elizabeth Olsen was terrific in Wind river and Emily Blunt was excellent in Sicario. He has a pretty good relationship with female characters. He writes Lineman.

[Chris Ryan]

If you've seen Ali Larder in Landman, you know that he really understands the totality of the emotional experience of the American woman.

[Sean Fennessy]

I feel like we've been hearing about a Call of duty movie for 20 years.

[Chris Ryan]

Yeah, it's like the new Halo, basically. Because remember, Halo was gonna be Peter Jackson. It was gonna be all these different versions of it.

[Sean Fennessy]

Wasn't there a Spielberg version of Call of Duty?

[Chris Ryan]

Once upon a time he got involved in that. I think also there was like. Because there's been so many iterations of Call of Duty and he may have been involved in the one that was the World War II one. I don't know. I don't know.

[Sean Fennessy]

And you've been developing one about January 6th, which is. How's that going?

[Chris Ryan]

Me and Aaron Sorkin are very happy with the results so far.

[Sean Fennessy]

Amanda, Call of Duty. Have you played?

[Amanda Davis]

I was like. Was not listening. What. What's Call of Duty?

[Sean Fennessy]

It's a video game.

[Amanda Davis]

I mean, I know that first person.

[Chris Ryan]

Shooter, like, high key.

[Amanda Davis]

I love it. I love to hear my first shooter.

[Chris Ryan]

I'm not trying to tell you.

[Sean Fennessy]

It's a war Game set in combat.

[Amanda Davis]

That's odd. It's definitely what we need more of.

[Sean Fennessy]

Is it always in real life events set against real life events?

[Chris Ryan]

I think there's an aliens one.

[Sean Fennessy]

There's an aliens one.

[Chris Ryan]

Oh, can I tell you something? Can I go off on a tangent? Do you mind?

[Sean Fennessy]

Yeah.

[Chris Ryan]

So last year I'm going to England, but I'm very excited about. And last year I took my wife to an theater experience and like, immersive theater experience that she really wanted to go to.

[Sean Fennessy]

Tell us more that.

[Chris Ryan]

I can't remember the name of it now, but it was essentially like you have to go into a teenage girl from the 1990s bedroom and kind of solve a mystery. But, like, PJ Harvey and Bjork is playing.

[Amanda Davis]

I mean, this does sound like, very catered to Phoebe.

[Chris Ryan]

And I was like, I love you.

[Amanda Davis]

Let's do this.

[Chris Ryan]

She was just like, that was so fun. And then I was like, guess what, Phoebe? The same theater group is doing a you're on a stranded spaceship and aliens are coming for you play. And she just blanked me. She was like, that sounds like something you could do with Andy. That sounds great.

[Sean Fennessy]

And I was just like, oh, my.

[Chris Ryan]

Anyway, I think there is a Call of Duty that has an alien plotline or so. Maybe a zombie plotline.

[Amanda Davis]

I'm blanking all of you.

[Chris Ryan]

Sanders, do you watch any. Do you play any cod?

[Sean Fennessy]

Sanders? Okay.

[Chris Ryan]

Okay.

[Sean Fennessy]

Yeah, I played it when I was like 13, but don't really remember a lot about it.

[Amanda Davis]

Yeah, I mean, you turned out great. So it's okay.

[Sean Fennessy]

I still have not acquired, thank you very much, Amanda, or started playing my video games yet. I will do that maybe for Christmas. Maybe that will be my gift to myself. Yeah, I'm going to.

[Amanda Davis]

You don't have time. You have to watch all the movies and then you have the tv.

[Sean Fennessy]

What if I double screen andor while figuring out how to play Elden Ring? That would be pretty cool. Then I would really be. And then I can very clearly downshift into weed. Dad, what would you do? And then I will be complete.

[Chris Ryan]

If in five years, let's say five years and I show up, I will.

[Amanda Davis]

Not let you in the house.

[Chris Ryan]

Xbox 8 for not.

[Amanda Davis]

I will not let you in the house.

[Chris Ryan]

And then, like every night, bro, you and me, headsets.

[Amanda Davis]

And I would just throw it away.

[Sean Fennessy]

It's going to be great. Because here's the way to do it. It's very simple. It's not bringing it to the house. It's you invite Knox over to your house. And you play it in front of him.

[Chris Ryan]

Really? If he plays in my house, it's.

[Amanda Davis]

Just never in our house.

[Sean Fennessy]

No, no. This. She doesn't understand that if he's exposed to it at your house, he's going to start asking for it at his house.

[Amanda Davis]

Well, and I'll be saying. And I will say, as I have said thus far for three and a half years, we don't have that at our house.

[Sean Fennessy]

You're making an even bigger mistake right now because you're letting us know that this is where you stand on this issue. And I will break you.

[Amanda Davis]

That's fine. Like, Knox can move in with you. He can live in the garage.

[Sean Fennessy]

I'm not offering that.

[Amanda Davis]

And he can play video games 24 7. Not in my house.

[Chris Ryan]

Knox with a Z. I think he'd be very helpful.

[Amanda Davis]

Just walk up the stairs in the morning. Good morning. Can I just sleep? He's very. He loves.

[Sean Fennessy]

I'm keep brainstorming on this. You got to start with like Super Smash Brothers, you know, something very appealing.

[Chris Ryan]

I just don't mean. She's not going to let him have Tetris. Like, we have to do this on our own.

[Amanda Davis]

Okay?

[Sean Fennessy]

We can build it. I'm not worried. I'm not worried.

[Amanda Davis]

I really thought Zach was with me until. What was the name of that game we played? The Game Night. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Where you have to rank things. And then Zach ranked video games number.

[Sean Fennessy]

One, and I was like, well, I.

[Chris Ryan]

Guess you're sleeping on the street tonight.

[Sean Fennessy]

Well, he revealed that he did did have a PS3 era.

[Chris Ryan]

I'm in defeat for a while.

[Amanda Davis]

And he got rid of it when we moved in together.

[Sean Fennessy]

It lives inside all men. I just want you to know that.

[Amanda Davis]

Anyway, I don't give a fuck about the Call of Duty movie, okay?

[Chris Ryan]

Inside of every Taylor Sheridan show there is a great movie. I'm convinced of this. I've thought about this recently and I thought about how cool a Billy Bob Thornton oil man movie or a Nicole Kidman Zoe Saldani.

[Amanda Davis]

I've seen that. It's called a T Mobile commercial. But anyway.

[Chris Ryan]

But you know, we're going to talk about a lot of movies from 1989 where like, the setup is like, that would just be a TV show now. And it's a very like, kind of pat observation. But he. He kind of got marginalized by like, the way that movies pivoted to. There's only high concept big picture stuff.

[Sean Fennessy]

I mean, he leveraged it very effectively. But it would be also nice to see him do like, A period Western. Obviously he's been making period westerns on Paramount but he's not been able to make one as a film.

[Chris Ryan]

Sure.

[Sean Fennessy]

Plus yeah.

[Chris Ryan]

By the way, reportedly all the, the episodes he does make cost as much as mid budget films. So that was one of the sort of issues of Paramount reportedly.

[Sean Fennessy]

Interesting. Well, we wish him well. He has roughly $900 million. So I think he's gonna be all right.

[Chris Ryan]

He owns, also owns a really nice big ranch in Texas.

[Sean Fennessy]

Have you been?

[Chris Ryan]

I haven't.

[Amanda Davis]

What's it called again?

[Chris Ryan]

The Four Sixes.

[Amanda Davis]

Is it open to the public?

[Chris Ryan]

I wonder about that.

[Amanda Davis]

Is there like a, a restaurant, you know, near the gate?

[Chris Ryan]

There's definitely. There's a Taylor Sheridan branded steakhouse.

[Amanda Davis]

I'm pretty sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Where are its locations?

[Chris Ryan]

I'll let you do that.

[Sean Fennessy]

There should be a horror movie that's about a guy, AKA you who stalks Taylor Sheridan to the ranch.

[Chris Ryan]

That's probably what his Texas Chainsaw Massacre pitch was.

[Sean Fennessy]

Oh, that would be good. One of my many stands, one of.

[Amanda Davis]

My many lionesses in the win in Vegas.

[Sean Fennessy]

So that's his. Where his steakhouse is.

[Amanda Davis]

Yes. 466's Ranch Steakhouse.

[Sean Fennessy]

Incredible field trip episode of this show.

[Amanda Davis]

I'm in. Let's go next.

[Chris Ryan]

Cinemacon.

[Sean Fennessy]

That sounds fantastic.

[Chris Ryan]

Oh my God.

[Sean Fennessy]

Okay, I'm into that.

[Amanda Davis]

Yeah.

[Sean Fennessy]

Okay, let's go to 1989. 1989, I was seven years old. I'm going to start by talking about this. I don't really remember seeing any of these movies in movie theaters. I feel like we do all these episodes about the early 90s and even I remember doing 88 and thinking. Or did we do 88? I can't remember 87 and thinking that I'd seen some movies. But I don't remember seeing any of these movies in theaters.

[Chris Ryan]

This is a huge VHS year for me and I would say that these, if you looked at just pure raw data, I've seen gleaming the Cube more than I've seen any movie that you would want to put on your letter.

[Sean Fennessy]

Because you would rent it from the video.

[Chris Ryan]

I would rent it and my mother would get furious at me because I would not return it. And a lot of movies. Here are 12 year old Chris Staples at the expense of watching like true cinema. But obviously like a lot of really great movies came out of this year and a lot of decade topping movies and a lot of really definitive movies for me. But yeah, huge repeat rentals and not the kind of movies that you would go around trying to get dates at doing videos with.

[Amanda Davis]

That's good. That's. That was life before.

[Sean Fennessy]

Yeah.

[Amanda Davis]

You know, you had to do this for, like, four clowns chasing. Yeah.

[Chris Ryan]

Like cinephiles, you know, it's like, I just watch movies.

[Sean Fennessy]

What were you like at 12?

[Chris Ryan]

This is 19, so I guess I was in sixth grade, you know, bat mitzvah time. You know, I was slow dancing with girls.

[Sean Fennessy]

What were the best themes at the barn bat mitzvahs that you attended?

[Chris Ryan]

You know, I don't really remember them having themes.

[Sean Fennessy]

Okay. No, like Landman theme.

[Chris Ryan]

No. I mean, I used to try to dress up like Parker Lewis. Can't lose rayon, shirt buttoned all the way up.

[Sean Fennessy]

I remember Giggle boys.

[Amanda Davis]

And I bring it back, man.

[Sean Fennessy]

Yeah. Like fake Ray Bans with the green rims. Yeah.

[Chris Ryan]

But, yeah, this was, you know, just the middle school, so I was.

[Sean Fennessy]

Okay.

[Amanda Davis]

Where was the travel baseball career at this point?

[Chris Ryan]

It was pretty good, but I'm trying to think of sixth grade, size 12. I think I was still, like, just doing fair amounts of sports association. I don't. Okay, maybe this was.

[Amanda Davis]

You hadn't been called up.

[Chris Ryan]

No, this might have been travel baseball. This might. 13 was a big year, so 12. 13 was 89. 90 was my peak.

[Sean Fennessy]

What was your slash line this year?

[Chris Ryan]

Well, we didn't believe in advanced analytics. We believed in momentum. We believed in effort and grit, you know, but that won us a championship, so. Shout out to Parkway. Shout out to the Fairhot Sports Association.

[Amanda Davis]

Okay.

[Chris Ryan]

They still. Our name still rings out.

[Sean Fennessy]

How many teams were in your league?

[Chris Ryan]

You laugh. I have a jacket. I'll bring the jacket back.

[Sean Fennessy]

Does it still fit?

[Chris Ryan]

No. Oh, you know what? He probably could.

[Sean Fennessy]

Psy.

[Chris Ryan]

Could probably work, but.

[Sean Fennessy]

Yeah. Yeah. Okay. You were. You were five.

[Amanda Davis]

I was Alice's age.

[Sean Fennessy]

You were four.

[Amanda Davis]

I was four. Turning five. Yeah. Isn't that crazy?

[Sean Fennessy]

Yeah. Okay, so what and similar cognitive memories do you have from that period?

[Amanda Davis]

Nothing specific, but I have. And I don't know how many of the movies I was seeing in theaters because I don't think that my parents were as evolved as you are. But thank you for saying that. Yeah, you're welcome. But I have memories and memories of a lot of these movies, like, at a. And connecting with them at a young age. So this is gonna be half grown up. Amanda tries to be a cinephile and half. Like, I was there on the playground singing the song.

[Sean Fennessy]

I don't. I mean, I also was probably playing a lot of baseball at this time and probably deep into GI Joe at this time. That seems like six, turning seven. Those were core interests for me.

[Chris Ryan]

Did you have any older cousins or friends in the neighborhood who let you in on the secret scrolls of some of the exploitation movies or beef movie genre movies of the time?

[Sean Fennessy]

That's a very good question. I didn't. I'm the oldest boy on both sides of my family. And the burden, I mean, it is. In some ways, I fled to California in part because of that burden. I was certainly aware of Nightmare on Elm street and Friday the 13th Halloween. And one of the interesting things about this year is this is the only year in which all three of those franchises had a movie out.

[Amanda Davis]

Okay.

[Sean Fennessy]

I went back and looked because I have a lot of free time, apparently, and can't watch andor.

[Chris Ryan]

But I can't watch Halloween fights.

[Sean Fennessy]

And when you're seven, it's kind of when you start to become aware of horror and that sort of thing. And, you know, this is also the year I should change my opinion about whether I've seen a movie in theaters because I did see Ghostbusters 2 in movie theaters. And that's another movie that's the real gateway to horror, where if you see that movie and you like that movie and you. You grow an affection for Viggo the Carpathian, then you might get more interested in Freddy Krueger. But I didn't have anybody putting me onto that stuff. I think that was just literally doing what my kids. For my kid, for example, doesn't do, which is watch TV commercials.

[Chris Ryan]

Sure.

[Amanda Davis]

Oh, my kids love TV commercials.

[Sean Fennessy]

But we don't really do that because of the, like, how we watch tv. And so, like, I would just see the Dream Child commercial.

[Amanda Davis]

Yeah.

[Sean Fennessy]

And be like, what is going on with that? That is very exciting. And that's. I think that's how I got interested in a lot of movies.

[Amanda Davis]

Yeah.

[Chris Ryan]

I mean, I think there is also. Because there were. There were trailers at the beginning of the VHS tapes that you would rent. You would kind of like.

[Amanda Davis]

Right.

[Chris Ryan]

You would sort of note for future reference that, you know, something looked illicit. And I honestly think that might be how I found out about some of the cooler movies of this year was like seeing a trailer at the beginning of the do the Right Thing tape, you know, once it came out or whatever, and be like, wait, what's Mystery Train? What's this like, you know, so kind of getting introduced to some of this stuff that way.

[Sean Fennessy]

What do you make of this year? Any, like, reflections on what it means? Like, I mentioned the horror. Those horror titles, and this is a pretty important pivoting time for horror. It's like kind of horror entering a real down period. Right. Slasher. Right. It's end of slasher. Yeah. Before we get to scream in five or six years it.

[Amanda Davis]

To me this is obvious since it's like 1989 and the next year is 1990. But it is a real pivotal year, I think in a lot of part because of sex lives and videotape and this is like where the Sundance and like kind of ushering in 90s independent cinema, like literally with Soderbergh. This is also the year of do the Right Thing, which you know, famously does not get nominated for best picture. So a lot of new people coming in. This is the year of When Harry Met Sally and the like starting the rom com. And you also have like, maybe not the last, not the last good Oliver Stone movie, but like it's a lot of the ends of certain types of things, like Daniel Day winning for My Left Foot. It's an introduction of him. But also that's a pretty classical like showy Oscar performance. So it's not a year we think of like a lot or that I spend a lot of time thinking of as like a really like pivotal film year. But a lot is changing.

[Sean Fennessy]

I think you're right. I think there's a good case for it being more important than even we talk about on the show. Having done all these drafts. The fact that it's taken over five years to get to this draft is kind of interesting. Maybe just a mistake on my part.

[Chris Ryan]

But no, I mean, we're running out of years. I think also there's like a. I wonder, I wonder if we went back and looked at journalism about the movie industry at this time period. Because obviously in the moment people tend to be like, well, it's not the same as it was five years ago or 10 years ago, but it just seems like such a stable and healthy movie environment at that time where you had a real baseline of like mid tier dramas and rom coms and drama dramedies that Hollywood were churning out. And you know, because you have this. I've been thinking about this a lot recently. I'm sure you guys have addressed this on the pod. I may have missed it, but like this kind of dialogue that's going on right now of like who is an actual famous person versus who is an actual box office draw.

[Amanda Davis]

Right.

[Chris Ryan]

I know that kind of came up with Josh o' Connor a little bit.

[Sean Fennessy]

But like, well, Amanda was saying even when we were talking about Chalamet, I think, I think you were Very pointedly, like, there are no movies. Like no one can open a movie. There's not a single person now who guarantees a movie opening. I would argue not to draw this back to a boring conversation we've had five times. But one battle doing 185 or whatever is a real testimony to Leo overseas.

[Amanda Davis]

Yes.

[Sean Fennessy]

Which is still something. But I mean, that was a person who was at the top of the heap for decades.

[Amanda Davis]

I mean, he's the only one.

[Sean Fennessy]

Yes.

[Amanda Davis]

And that's it.

[Sean Fennessy]

And this is the. But this is an interesting challenge that. Because if you look at the top of the box office in this year, it isn't really fully defined by stars. The number one movie of this year is Batman, also pretty notable.

[Amanda Davis]

And starting a new generation of.

[Sean Fennessy]

And Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade. Obviously, Harrison Ford is critical to the success of those movies, but still, it's a third film in a franchise. Lethal Weapon 2, another franchise. Mel was a huge star at that time. But it's a franchise. Look who's talking. It's a gimmick movie and becomes a franchise. Honey, I shrunk the kids.

[Chris Ryan]

Same thing.

[Sean Fennessy]

Gimmick movie, same thing for kids. Gonna be a franchise. Back to the future 2 franchise. You know, this is in this time. We talked about this many times over the years in the rewatchables, and we do 80s movies, too. But there is a pivot point in the middle of this decade where this becomes more the strategy.

[Chris Ryan]

You can see the tides shifting in the second half of the bottom 10 of the top 14 here or whatever is like, wow, we used to make things.

[Sean Fennessy]

Yes. Movies for adults pretty much.

[Chris Ryan]

And they're. They're profitable and they're about divorce or about broken families or about missing your father or having diabetes. And this is the thing that we.

[Sean Fennessy]

Are literally saying when we say the middle.

[Chris Ryan]

Yes.

[Sean Fennessy]

That these are the movies that make $80 million and they're profitable and they win awards and they're in the culture at large. They don't make $300 million like Batman, but they do really well. And this year is littered with them. In addition to, I think, all of those sea changes you're talking about just kind of in the movie business and the new voices that are coming through. So pretty exciting and pivotal year. Absolutely. Like Nightmare Academy Awards. One of the most nightmarish Academy Awards in movie history. And there's one cool win. There's two cool wins with Denzel winning for glory and Daniel Day Lewis announcing himself as a critical figure. But the. And I guess Oliver Stone winning for born on the 4th of July is good.

[Amanda Davis]

I don't mind it. It's one of the good ones.

[Sean Fennessy]

Yeah. You could make the case for any of the other nominees in that category this year. You know, you had Woody Allen for Crimes and Misdemeanors, Peter Weir for Dead Poets Society, Kenneth Branagh for Henry V, and Jim Sheridan for My Left Foot. But Driving Miss Daisy wins Best Picture. I don't think it's going to be drafted today.

[Amanda Davis]

No, no.

[Sean Fennessy]

Have you seen it?

[Chris Ryan]

I think I've seen it once.

[Sean Fennessy]

Have you seen it?

[Amanda Davis]

I don't know. I honestly maybe haven't now. Like, I've seen clips of it, but I think by the time I caught up to it, you know, even in the moment, we weren't old enough to really be paying attention. But it was understood to be an outrage of sorts. Or it was definitely a movie that.

[Sean Fennessy]

Was for old people, too. Like, I remember my parents. I'll think. I think I'll be talking about my parents on this episode a little bit more. But I remember my parents being very bored by this movie and very, very surprised by the fact that born on the 4th of July I've mentioned in the past, is about Ron Kovic, who lived on Long island, who had a big. He was a very big figure in the community that I grew up in. And so there was a lot of warmth towards Born on the Fourth of July. And that's like an adult movie. Dead Poet Society, another movie nominated for Best Picture that just like everybody liked, you know, it was just kind of universally appreciated and enjoyed. So that's setting aside even the do the right thing exclusion.

[Amanda Davis]

Right.

[Sean Fennessy]

A couple of other movies that we'll talk about that probably should have been here as well, but it's not a great. I also have some strong thoughts about Best Actress and Jessica Tandy that we will maybe get to in this conversation.

[Chris Ryan]

You're going to besmirch Jessica Tandy's legacy?

[Sean Fennessy]

No, she's a fine actress. She has multiple Tonys and.

[Amanda Davis]

Yeah, but there's a lot of people that you want to sleep with in the rest of the category.

[Sean Fennessy]

Well, I mean, I would if they presented that option to me, but that's not. That wasn't that specifically. Okay. Any other thoughts before we dig into our drafting?

[Amanda Davis]

I'm excited.

[Chris Ryan]

Yeah.

[Sean Fennessy]

Interesting one.

[Amanda Davis]

This was one where you said 1989 and I made a face at you and then read through the list and I didn't realize what a deep bench this was gonna be.

[Sean Fennessy]

So it's a pretty cool one. So these are the categories we'll do before we do the draft order. It'll be drama, comedy, action, horror, thriller, Oscar nominee, sequel, blockbuster with a $75 million threshold and wild card. So we're back to seven categories, just the three of us. Okay. Feeling good.

[Amanda Davis]

Yeah.

[Sean Fennessy]

Okay, Jack Sanders, we need a draft order. All right, let's do it.

[Amanda Davis]

All right, Mr. Dungeons and Dragons.

[Sean Fennessy]

Here we go. We have the huge die going.

[Amanda Davis]

Yeah.

[Sean Fennessy]

Yeah. Just such a good noise. Drafting first, Amanda Dobbins.

[Amanda Davis]

Wow. Okay.

[Sean Fennessy]

Drafting second, Chris Ryan. Drafting third, Sean. Okay.

[Chris Ryan]

It's been a minute since we've drafted just the three of us.

[Amanda Davis]

I think so at least a couple PTA character.

[Sean Fennessy]

Draft we did.

[Amanda Davis]

Oh, right.

[Sean Fennessy]

Haven't had a year draft.

[Chris Ryan]

Just three of us.

[Sean Fennessy]

Yeah.

[Chris Ryan]

Okay.

[Amanda Davis]

So there are. There are a couple obvious first picks, but if I've learned anything, it's that I've. I. That I need to take what I really want.

[Chris Ryan]

That's. I kind of actually think that this isn't true and that rarely do we like Shark.

[Sean Fennessy]

You.

[Amanda Davis]

Well, you might on. I don't know whether you would on this one, but I just like. I can't not have one Harry Met Sally. Like, I can't not have it. What?

[Sean Fennessy]

It's. I think you're absolutely making the right choice, and it also wounds me. Yeah. Because it means that the top two picks are gonna be off the board.

[Amanda Davis]

Um, so. And I'm gonna take that in Blockbuster.

[Sponsor Announcer]

Okay.

[Sean Fennessy]

Good call. Good pick. Yeah.

[Amanda Davis]

This is. I think this is.

[Sean Fennessy]

Is absolutely the right move.

[Amanda Davis]

Thank you. Thank you so much. We're being very nice to each other today, and I'm going to roll, rebuilding. Okay.

[Sean Fennessy]

I'm heading into the second half of my life, and these relationships are very important to me.

[Amanda Davis]

When Harry Met Sally is the best and most influential romantic comedy of my lifetime. And this, in 1989, resets. It is the modern romantic comedy era. There was no disrespect to some of the greats of the 70s and 80s, but every movie starring Julia Roberts, Meg Ryan, Kate Hudson, who am I forgetting? Sandra Bullock, Reese Withers, any of the movies in the 90s and 2000s that you or I loved owe a debt to When Harry Met Sally, which is far more sophisticated than any of those other movies. This also sets Nora Ephron off on her. She wrote this one and then starts her on her filmmaking or really establishes her filmmaking career. I'm still a fan of Heartburn, which she wrote before this, but this is. This is like she's certified.

[Chris Ryan]

Did she have another movie this year? Oh, she wrote a cookie, right?

[Sean Fennessy]

She did, yeah. Yeah, yeah.

[Amanda Davis]

So it's, you know, obviously, like hugely well known, hugely quotable. I love it. Controversially I picked. Or controversially to other people, I picked you've got Mail in the New York City draft rather than When Harry Met Sally. Because I was operating under the confines of. It was a New York draft. And for whatever reason, I watched that you've Got Mail growing up more than I did When Harry Met Sally. But it's. It is. It is one of the great movies.

[Chris Ryan]

I would say that 1989 produced more iconic scenes and memorable movie moments than almost any other in my lifetime.

[Sean Fennessy]

Like, you still see classic, unverifiable podcasts.

[Chris Ryan]

I can't. But I can't. I can't verify it, but I would get. I would almost in my mind, I'm like, there are so many scenes from moments from movies of this year where you would see it in a historical Oscar montage.

[Sean Fennessy]

Right.

[Amanda Davis]

Yeah.

[Chris Ryan]

You know, and like the. Obviously the deli ordering scene.

[Amanda Davis]

I'll have what she's having.

[Chris Ryan]

Yes.

[Amanda Davis]

Yeah.

[Chris Ryan]

But, yeah, great pick.

[Amanda Davis]

Sharper image. Funny.

[Sean Fennessy]

I. I think it's the best of that, this kind of film.

[Amanda Davis]

When Harry, Sally. And I think that you're right. There's best and there's favorite, and it is. It is the best. It's. It's the pinnacle.

[Sean Fennessy]

Okay. You have a second pick, Chris.

[Chris Ryan]

I'm going to go with do the right thing.

[Amanda Davis]

Yeah.

[Chris Ryan]

Which category I am going to take it. Delete in drama.

[Sean Fennessy]

Okay.

[Chris Ryan]

Tracy Letts recently called this the best movie of the 80s in his criterion Closet video. I tend to agree. I rewatched it, some of it last night.

[Amanda Davis]

That was a great video. I've told him this personally, but that just. Good job, Tracy.

[Sean Fennessy]

He told me that there were quite a few of his pics were left on the cutting room floor, and he was frustrated about that. But he did share those pics with me.

[Chris Ryan]

Can't overstate the lightning bolt effect this movie had on my life along with the explosion of rap music at this time period. It was honestly one of the pivotal moments of my cultural experience. Public Enemy and Spike Lee and all these things happening at once really did feel like a historically relevant moment that we were living through. And this movie still brims with so much life and so much energy, so much inventiveness. A quintessential New York movie. Incredible ensemble of performances and just, I think should be honestly like a first 10 top movies that you need to see before you die. Like, if you haven't Seen the right thing.

[Amanda Davis]

You should a thousand percent hit pause.

[Chris Ryan]

And go watch it.

[Sean Fennessy]

I do think I said something to that effect. Wesley and I did a rewatchables years ago now, like maybe seven years ago about the movie, but one of my favorite episodes of that show that we've ever done. And yeah, it had the same effect on me. I didn't see it till I was older. There would be no reason to see it until you were more like giving yourself a film education as a teenager.

[Chris Ryan]

But I still remember in my head it always bangs around. Is the Chuck D. 1989, another summer. And you're just like, oh, my God. It really feels like we're living through something.

[Sean Fennessy]

Yes. And defines this. Can that needle drop open this episode or are we not allowed to? Is that fair use?

[Amanda Davis]

Yeah. Cause we couldn't get Ganga 4 for Marie Antoinette.

[Sean Fennessy]

Wow. We just can't even fair use these beautiful sounds anymore. Um, yeah. Gosh, I do love that movie.

[Chris Ryan]

So you're mad, though?

[Sean Fennessy]

No, I, I.

[Chris Ryan]

Those have been.

[Amanda Davis]

But do you think we did it?

[Sean Fennessy]

Those were my one and two picks. I think those are the. Because they fit a number of categories. They define the year. In some ways. They're both wonderful. They're both, like, very easy to return to.

[Amanda Davis]

You know, they are up there in the sport. They're on the spot.

[Sean Fennessy]

You know, when Jack selected which films to spotlight behind us, those are the ones he chose. So, yeah, I mean, there's a ton of great movies left and there's a ton of strategic picks to make. It does leave me in the unfortunate position of then, like, I feel like going very male bro Y, which a lot of my drafts have just been really male bro y lately. And I wanted to say something. I don't really see myself that way. And I think I have, like, painted myself into a corner on this podcast as being like that. And I regret that.

[Chris Ryan]

So now Star Wars Mommy and super Ally.

[Sean Fennessy]

I didn't say that.

[Amanda Davis]

It's a brave new world.

[Sean Fennessy]

Excited?

[Chris Ryan]

She's got fucking Leia buns. And you're like, you know what?

[Sean Fennessy]

Okay. I think the right strategic move is maybe not exactly the one that I want to make, but I'm.

[Chris Ryan]

You have two Pixars. You can have one for us. One for them, huh?

[Sean Fennessy]

Yeah. Okay. In Blockbuster, I'm going to take Batman. I don't love a lot of the blockbusters here, and I do love Batman. Another movie that has been featured on the Rewatchables.

[Amanda Davis]

Delete.

[Sean Fennessy]

Tim Burton's really brave recontextualization of Batman reimagining of what Batman is. Casting Michael Keaton, like it is that movie. You can go back and look at what Batman was in the way that he made that movie a little bit more strange, more gothic, more unusual than expected. Enlisting Prince to do the soundtrack. Pretty bold move, Keaton.

[Chris Ryan]

Slu. Is that your favorite Batman?

[Sean Fennessy]

Pretty easily. You know, I was always very like, I felt Bale was good. I really had, like, nothing negative to say about Bale, but I think it's just age too.

[Chris Ryan]

It's your first time.

[Sean Fennessy]

If I see Batman, when we rented that movie from Blockbuster and he's Batman to me, at seven years old, yeah, that's kind of life changing. That's definitional. So I love that forever.

[Amanda Davis]

I mean, this was just in life, you know, I also really like Bale and once again, I think Robert Pattinson is very tall in the suit.

[Sean Fennessy]

So a few more movies and he could be rising up the power rankings if they ever make those films.

[Chris Ryan]

I'm an Affleck guy, so.

[Amanda Davis]

Okay.

[Sean Fennessy]

Well, now I do wish we could have seen the Affleck directed Batman movie.

[Sponsor Announcer]

Sure.

[Sean Fennessy]

That would have been. Of course, that could have challenged something because he looks the part. He's got that kind of like graying billionaire energy that you would want from that character. I don't know.

[Amanda Davis]

Anyway, I mean, that would be the most fascinating celebrity document to me personally. And, you know, in the past three.

[Sean Fennessy]

Years, what do you think he would reveal about his.

[Amanda Davis]

I don't know. Wouldn't we all, like, you know?

[Sean Fennessy]

Yeah. Do you feel that he goes into a cave and puts on a mask when he acts in the world?

[Amanda Davis]

Sure. Or when he goes out, you know, to pick up his FedEx and his chick Fil A and his Dunkin Donuts.

[Sean Fennessy]

Did you know we're roughly two and a half months away from the rip appearing?

[Amanda Davis]

Yes, I did.

[Sean Fennessy]

On Netflix. The new Matt Damon Ben Affleck. Like, is it. Is it a January movie?

[Chris Ryan]

It is about cops who rip off drug dealers in Miami. It's such a really fertile story for popular culture right now.

[Sean Fennessy]

Hard to believe. You believe that Task. Yes. This. Yes.

[Amanda Davis]

Oh, is that what Task is about? Task, Yeah. I didn't watch it. I'm sorry.

[Chris Ryan]

It's in the first episode. You didn't watch it either?

[Amanda Davis]

I didn't want to know because you guys started without me.

[Sean Fennessy]

And then.

[Amanda Davis]

Listen, who you guys started without me. The watch, for one. I felt I did finally feel excited, excluded by the watch at the end of the task. I'm sorry, but it's Fine, we're back. You know, I have listened to all the Sheridan stuff, but, yeah, it just got away from me so fast. I'm really behind on tv.

[Chris Ryan]

And that's what happens with tv is it's just like you blink in three episodes.

[Amanda Davis]

And then I asked Zach what it was about, and he told me, and I didn't hold onto the information, so.

[Sean Fennessy]

I changed my mind. No, really, I'm not taking it in Blockbuster.

[Chris Ryan]

Okay, okay.

[Sean Fennessy]

I'm taking it in thriller. Action Horror.

[Chris Ryan]

Batman.

[Sean Fennessy]

Yes.

[Amanda Davis]

Okay.

[Chris Ryan]

Okay.

[Sean Fennessy]

Do you believe it belongs there?

[Amanda Davis]

I deleted it from that category.

[Chris Ryan]

So, yes, it's an action movie.

[Amanda Davis]

Yeah, of course.

[Sean Fennessy]

Yeah. I also was thinking, where does science fiction fit when we say that fit in there?

[Chris Ryan]

I use that as a blanket genre. Non comedy thing.

[Sean Fennessy]

Gotcha. Okay, so I'll take that there. Just because there's a dearth of titles.

[Chris Ryan]

So that's Batman. That's Batman Action thriller.

[Amanda Davis]

Kyle Chandler is in the rip. Damn, I'm excited.

[Sean Fennessy]

I'm pretty pumped.

[Chris Ryan]

Me, too.

[Amanda Davis]

The trailer, I mean, this has, like, triple frontier energy going around it in a big way. And I'm ready for it.

[Sean Fennessy]

We'll find streaming movie.

[Amanda Davis]

Yeah. We can share Twix again.

[Chris Ryan]

Oh, yeah, that's.

[Amanda Davis]

Yeah, There we go.

[Sean Fennessy]

See, you guys can share Twix any day if you just go to the store and buy some Twix. Okay, so now.

[Chris Ryan]

I'm on pins and needles.

[Amanda Davis]

Yeah.

[Sean Fennessy]

In sequel, I'll be taking Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade.

[Amanda Davis]

Oh, my God. You don't even like the Holy Grail. You don't believe in it.

[Sean Fennessy]

I don't believe in it because it's not real. Because I've done my research.

[Chris Ryan]

The cup of Christ.

[Sean Fennessy]

It's not real.

[Amanda Davis]

God.

[Sean Fennessy]

It's an imagined idea that was invented to stoke mythology amongst believers. That being said, wonderful movie.

[Chris Ryan]

If you walked into the chamber and the knight was there, the Crusade knight was there, and he was like, look at all these cups. Do you think deep down inside you would pick the cup of a carpenter? Or would you pick a bejeweled, kind of like King of Kings thing?

[Sean Fennessy]

Let's refashion this question. I walk in, the knight's there, and he's got all the four case, and he's like, which one do you want? What's your question? What do you really want to have? I don't know.

[Chris Ryan]

And it's Tracy Letts, and he's like, I have all of these discs.

[Sean Fennessy]

Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade. Obviously, magical sequel is a tough category. There's some good ones, but Nothing like this one. This is, in my opinion, the best sequel from this time. And I don't know if you guys are gonna take the two best movies. I at least gotta make a smart move.

[Amanda Davis]

Yeah, that's a. I did a good job, but I'm. Sequels is tough for me because, like I said, I was four when this came out, so I had not seen the originals of many of these movies. And so I didn't, like, go out and seek the sequels when I turned, like, 9 or 10 or whatever. So it's thin for me.

[Sean Fennessy]

Well, that's why it's called a draft. And then Amanda gets what she wants.

[Amanda Davis]

We were doing really well, and I was even trying to, like, be measured about the fact that you took this. Even though you have just a tremendous amount of bad historical takes about this movie, and you were always like, it's not as good as, like, Temple of Doom, and it's definitely not the best.

[Sean Fennessy]

I never said that. I never said that.

[Amanda Davis]

Grail isn't. I don't believe in the Grail, and I don't like any stories about it. And then you won't respect, you know, the.

[Sean Fennessy]

Don't put in the newspaper that she's mad. I am.

[Amanda Davis]

I'm, like, a little mad. And I was trying to be okay, but you don't have to snipe at me about my emotions.

[Sean Fennessy]

Okay, fair enough.

[Amanda Davis]

There we go.

[Chris Ryan]

Oh, this is also Indiana Jones. Big Venice movie. Last Crusaders.

[Amanda Davis]

Oh, really?

[Sean Fennessy]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Amanda Davis]

Oh, yeah, you're right. Of course.

[Chris Ryan]

The catacombs.

[Sean Fennessy]

Yeah.

[Amanda Davis]

Because everything is. It's very old there and sinking into the ground in.

[Chris Ryan]

Oh, go ahead.

[Sean Fennessy]

You know what you want to do. Yeah.

[Chris Ryan]

In Oscar, I'm going to take Field of Dreams.

[Amanda Davis]

Okay.

[Chris Ryan]

Nominated for best picture. I got to tell you, man, this is a perfect movie.

[Amanda Davis]

I rewatched the People Will Come seen this morning and started crying, and I'm. Okay. Good movies. It's going. It's going quickly now, back in the.

[Sean Fennessy]

News because of Amy Madigan, I find.

[Chris Ryan]

Yeah, it is back in the news. And I. I was rewatching it, like, late this summer, and it. I remember watching my parents watching it and crying and not knowing why. Watching it now and crying and being.

[Sponsor Announcer]

Like, oh, I get it.

[Chris Ryan]

And, you know, Phil Alden Robinson, who also did Sneakers, and it's based on the W.P. kinsella novel. Kevin Costner in one of his iconic roles. And honestly, probably iconic looks, you know, the button down tucked into the jeans, standing in the cornfield, unbelievably hot.

[Amanda Davis]

Also just the t shirt that he's wearing when he's walking through the cornfields. And they're like, if you build it, they will cut. No whispers. It's powerful.

[Chris Ryan]

But I was actually really struck by the depth of the cast last time I watched it because I'd forgotten. Frank Whaley plays young Doc, obviously. Burt Lancaster. Ray Liotta and a kind of almost like movie star matinee role, as she was Joe. And James Earl Jones is phenomenal in this movie. Gabby Hoffman is the daughter. Timothy Busfield as the annoying brother in law.

[Sean Fennessy]

Terrible character, but yeah, we'll allow it. The classic old school bad movie character where you're just like, why won't this guy just stop annoying everybody about this? This is not. What does he want to do? Buy the corn feel. He's just like, sell the farm.

[Chris Ryan]

He's like, you. You basically, you're underwater with your mortgage. You got to sell the farm. I'm trying to protect my sister, but also probably get a little, little wet my beak a little bit. I think maybe the best last 10 minutes in. In like a movie history, including the last shot, the pull out as people are driving up.

[Sean Fennessy]

It is historically a movie that when that sequence begins, it's like you, if you are touched, you turn into a puddle. Like, it is very, very deep.

[Chris Ryan]

And the Phillies are playing the Field of Dreams game next summer.

[Sean Fennessy]

What are they playing?

[Chris Ryan]

I think Cubs.

[Sean Fennessy]

Oh, that's nice. Yeah, that's fun. Two historic franchises. Yeah. Mired in success. Yes. Mired in success.

[Amanda Davis]

Yes. Mired in success. Amanda, I wanted that one.

[Sean Fennessy]

You have two selections.

[Amanda Davis]

I wanted Last Crusade.

[Sean Fennessy]

You got a lot of stuff. You're good. You got tons of stuff.

[Amanda Davis]

No, I have a lot of stuff, but some of the category things are tricky for me, and I'll be totally honest. In addition to not having seen that many sequels, I only became aware of the sequels category at 9:48 last night. So, you know, it was all there. I have no one to blame but myself, but this is a culture of honesty and transparency. So that's just where we are.

[Sean Fennessy]

It's also a culture of accountability here on this show that when we select When Harry Met Sally, there are consequences.

[Amanda Davis]

Okay. I said I was the same age as Alice in 1989. Not that I am. Okay, all right. I was just bitching about sequels, but I'm not even going to do that category. An action horror thriller.

[Sean Fennessy]

Here we go.

[Amanda Davis]

I mean, I. Shocker. Yeah, it's a shocker, but it's like.

[Sean Fennessy]

No, the film shocker. Wes Craven's Shocker no, about a deranged criminal who's executed and then goes into.

[Amanda Davis]

The TV movies that are left that I've seen. Ghostbusters 2.

[Sean Fennessy]

Okay.

[Amanda Davis]

Yeah, yeah. Okay.

[Sean Fennessy]

This is for thriller, action, horror, not correct. Okay, cool.

[Chris Ryan]

I had a funny bit for you for sequel that I was gonna try and tip you off to, but I don't think.

[Amanda Davis]

We don't have time.

[Chris Ryan]

We don't have time. We have plenty of time.

[Amanda Davis]

But I enjoy the Bill Murray of this movie the most, which has nothing to do with action, horror, or really even thrilling. It's just funny. But he's very good. And then, I don't know, I like the slimer guy.

[Sean Fennessy]

The green guy. Slimer, sure. How do you feel about the idea of a river of ooze?

[Chris Ryan]

Pink ooze, that's.

[Sean Fennessy]

That runs under. In through the aqueducts of New York.

[Chris Ryan]

And it's feeding off of New York's anger and misery.

[Sean Fennessy]

Negative energy. Yeah.

[Amanda Davis]

Great metaphor. And doesn't scare me as much as other issues. Like, I wouldn't want to, like, step in it. I wouldn't volunteer to be. It's. It's Aykroyd who gets lowered down, I believe so.

[Chris Ryan]

To get the samples right.

[Amanda Davis]

Yeah. I wouldn't want that to be me, but I wouldn't say slime is like, number one on my list of concerns.

[Sean Fennessy]

A line reading from that movie that echoes in my mind in perpetuity is, Viggy, Viggy, Viggy, you have been a bad monkey. That's a very classic Murray situation. Weird thing that I just heard that I'm going to share because we're talking about this movie. Aziz Ansari was on Kim Masters show on KCRW and had a long conversation, really interesting in part about the making of Good Fortune, his movie, and then some of the issues that he has found himself entrenched in recently. You know, some of the press that was written about him, like, around me too. And then about the Riyadh Comedy Festival. And then he talked about Being Mortal, which was the movie that he was making with Bill Murray that was canceled after Bill Murray was accused of inappropriate behavior. And in talking about that, Kim Masters, who's been reporting on Hollywood for years and years, was like, I was on the set of Ghostbusters 2 and Harold Ramis was a saint, and Ivan Reitman was a nice guy and Bill Murray was terrible. He was absolutely awful to be around. And I thought it was interesting for her to just say that in that environment.

[Chris Ryan]

Did Aziz say anything back?

[Sean Fennessy]

Aziz, I think, was just trying to be as Polite as possible, but it was one of those things. No, he didn't do it in Aziz.

[Amanda Davis]

That was good.

[Sean Fennessy]

It was like 35 minutes into a 36 minute interview and I was like, wow, they left that in there. Interesting.

[Amanda Davis]

Okay.

[Sean Fennessy]

It happens. I hate to hear it about somebody that you know.

[Amanda Davis]

And there. There are stories. You can also imagine it, you know, like there is the curmudgeonly difficult aspect of his personality as part of his comedy as well. But if you're dealing with it all the time, I bet it would be in Wink. I mean, the man has a voicemail because he doesn't take phone calls, you know?

[Sean Fennessy]

Yeah, I like, just like me, you.

[Amanda Davis]

Love to see it. But also that, that indicates a level of difficultness that I don't know. He's funny in this movie. And Sigourney Weaver looks very beautiful.

[Sean Fennessy]

She does.

[Amanda Davis]

This is sort of like her, you know, the late 80s working girl into this.

[Chris Ryan]

Oh, yeah.

[Amanda Davis]

Very inspirational to me. And I'm glad that baby's safe. So Oscar. Oscar, yes.

[Chris Ryan]

Oscar is the name of the baby.

[Sean Fennessy]

Yeah, Oscar. Yes, that's right. She's no longer Zuul, the key master.

[Chris Ryan]

No. She gets exorcised at the end of one. At the end of one.

[Amanda Davis]

Yeah.

[Sean Fennessy]

And she has. No. There's nothing about her that's supernatural in two, right?

[Amanda Davis]

No, no. Well, but she's a mom, you know, so you're right.

[Sean Fennessy]

That is supernatural.

[Amanda Davis]

That's the most powerful of all.

[Sean Fennessy]

Absolutely.

[Amanda Davis]

Okay. In comedy, I'm taking Heather.

[Sean Fennessy]

Okay.

[Amanda Davis]

I say, what's your damage to my children an inappropriate number of times a day for. And it just like comes out of me. I don't say fuck me gently with a chainsaw. So I feel like in terms of parenting, I'm doing pretty well.

[Chris Ryan]

I do.

[Amanda Davis]

I sometimes.

[Chris Ryan]

Nobody in particular say, I love my dead gay son. Sometimes, like if I'm playing FIFA, you.

[Sean Fennessy]

Know.

[Chris Ryan]

And a guy gets injured.

[Sean Fennessy]

This.

[Amanda Davis]

You know, existed before. What is the name of the Lindsay Mean Girls and all of the other. Did you know that girls can be terrible? And did it with more hate and vitriol and really better styling than anyone than any movie since. And I think I saw this before Mean Girls somehow, like, I do think I saw this at probably what we would now consider inappropriate age. But at the same time, I was watching all of the John Hughes movies, which it's clearly like in conversation with, almost like rejecting. Yeah.

[Sean Fennessy]

And Daniel Waters. Amazing script. Yeah.

[Amanda Davis]

And just a version of women or teenage girl characters that is not the cheerleader and is in fact Just, like, really angry and mean and ugly. And, you know, that is very freeing. And it's also. Well, it is. I mean, they. You shouldn't kill people, but also, like, they're bitches, so. And. And the script is amazing and so very quotable. And should I get one of those corsages, like, Winona Wide, Like. Like a sort of camellia thing that she wears right here. It's a really good one. It's good.

[Sean Fennessy]

It's a future look.

[Amanda Davis]

Yeah. Thank you.

[Chris Ryan]

I love that this is a movie that you can watch and just enjoy on the surface. And then you can read so much about, like, all the references, the intersectional references it's making. Also, like, the. All the stuff they do with color theory and, like, the, you know, the red scrunchie or the red hair tie that symbolizes power, all that stuff. Is it true that this was written with the hopes that Stanley Kubrick would direct?

[Sean Fennessy]

I believe so.

[Amanda Davis]

Well, which is quite interesting. Yeah. You gotta dream big.

[Sean Fennessy]

Yeah. And certainly by the end of the movie, it's kind of this, like, grand, violent, absurdist spectacle. You could see him taking a bite out of that.

[Chris Ryan]

And, yeah, the two lead performances are kind of singed into my brain.

[Sean Fennessy]

Slater is. You know, obviously all of the female stars are the movie, but Slater, like, trying so hard to be Jack and kind of getting it. Like, kind of getting there is really. Is really quite.

[Amanda Davis]

What does she yell at the end? Like, I'm done with cool. I'm done with cool guys. Or something. Like, as she. As they're down and she's just diffusing it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's really, really great stuff.

[Sean Fennessy]

Great pick. Great movie.

[Amanda Davis]

Thank you.

[Sean Fennessy]

Okay, cr, You've got a pick.

[Chris Ryan]

This is interesting.

[Sean Fennessy]

This is not quite playing out as I had expected it would.

[Amanda Davis]

Okay.

[Sean Fennessy]

Not in a bad way.

[Chris Ryan]

I'm feeling really good about this. I'm gonna take in Blockbuster, and I kind of can't believe it's. It's such a fantastic world that this was a blockbuster. I'll take Dead Poets Society.

[Sean Fennessy]

We're gonna do that.

[Amanda Davis]

Yeah.

[Sean Fennessy]

I was hoping that would make its way to me.

[Chris Ryan]

Yeah.

[Amanda Davis]

I mean, sure.

[Chris Ryan]

Peter Weir's movie about a group of kids at a boarding school prep school who become enamored with their professor or their teacher. Robin Williams, played by Robin Williams, features like a half a dozen fantastic young men. Performances by Robert Sean Leonard and Ethan Hawke. Josh Charles as Knox Overstreet.

[Sean Fennessy]

We're getting our heads blown off by Chris in this draft right now, just so you know. We're currently being beaten very badly.

[Amanda Davis]

He has do the right thing. Field of Dreams and Dead Poets Society. Yeah, I see your point. I see your point.

[Chris Ryan]

Don't worry, I'll fucking nose dive into a mountain when I'm just like, actually, no, It's Police Academy 6.

[Sean Fennessy]

You gotta salute sometimes where you're like, that's pretty masterful. Middling as well. Middling is challenging on this show.

[Chris Ryan]

Yeah, I, I just this, it's funny. It's like the effect that Field of Dreams had on like basically like this is like I feel like the teenagers. Field of Dreams.

[Sean Fennessy]

Yeah.

[Chris Ryan]

When you're watching this and you just imagine yourself in these kinds of situations and having such an important feeling experience in school. And this was right as like school was becoming more serious for me. So I thought it was like, well, I didn't take it seriously, but it was getting serious. Okay. And yeah, I don't even know like what to say about this.

[Amanda Davis]

I think they showed me this in school, which is like a choice.

[Sean Fennessy]

Yeah, I think I saw it in school as well. And there's some. Yeah. Then it's like, what's suicide? You know, like there's a lot of complicated questions that come up when you're watching it at 12 years old.

[Chris Ryan]

We saw Last the Mohicans in school at the end of like a. A period of, of study of. Of Native American tribes of local Philadelphia area. It's not set in Philadelphia at all and is quite violent.

[Sean Fennessy]

So.

[Chris Ryan]

Thank you. Sometimes these drafts can be such a.

[Sean Fennessy]

Bummer for me because I'm like, how the fuck did this movie make $95 million? If this movie came out today, it would be released by Mubi and make $4 million. That is true. That is literally true. I. We can't give up.

[Chris Ryan]

I'm not giving up.

[Sean Fennessy]

We can't give up.

[Chris Ryan]

We're spreading the good word.

[Sean Fennessy]

Dead Poet society made nearly 96 million.

[Amanda Davis]

Wow.

[Chris Ryan]

Peter Weirman, one of the best.

[Amanda Davis]

Robin Williams.

[Sean Fennessy]

Ethan Hawke was having success as a child star before this movie, but this is also the movie that vaulted him.

[Chris Ryan]

I was in Ethan Hawke giving one of his great ever performances in the Lowdown right now.

[Amanda Davis]

Oh, I thought you were going to say in Dead Poets Society.

[Chris Ryan]

No, but he's having a little another hawkasance with Blue Moon and always.

[Sean Fennessy]

Have you seen Blue Moon yet?

[Chris Ryan]

I have not.

[Sean Fennessy]

God, it's so good. He's so good. Okay, I've got two picks and.

[Amanda Davis]

Wow. I'm just learning that Josh Charles is on a upcoming medical comedy drama television series.

[Chris Ryan]

Yes.

[Amanda Davis]

Called Best Medicine. Well, I'm happy for him, I guess.

[Sean Fennessy]

I've certainly heard better titles.

[Chris Ryan]

The title Doc was already taken.

[Sean Fennessy]

Yes. Starring Molly Parker. Yes. I've seen the commercials for that.

[Chris Ryan]

As a doctor who has amnesia but is somehow still allowed to practice surgical medicine.

[Amanda Davis]

Oh, yeah.

[Sean Fennessy]

Interesting take.

[Chris Ryan]

Yeah.

[Amanda Davis]

I tried to watch baseball playoffs on the way back from New York, I think, and that was not playing on Fox on the, you know, playing live tv. But the amnesia doctor was.

[Chris Ryan]

Yeah, yeah.

[Amanda Davis]

So I didn't watch it. I watched little Webby.

[Sean Fennessy]

Are there ever any scenes in that show where she's in the middle of a surgery and she's like, whoops, I forgot.

[Chris Ryan]

No, I mean, I. I honestly have not watched Doc. I'm sorry.

[Sean Fennessy]

Okay.

[Chris Ryan]

Yeah. Too busy.

[Sean Fennessy]

What, Watching Dealer Sheridan shows. So I've got Batman and Indiana Jones in the Last Crusade.

[Amanda Davis]

Yeah.

[Sean Fennessy]

Which are objectively, I think, pretty good picks, but I look over at your boards, and I'm a little concerned. So in Oscar nominee.

[Amanda Davis]

Yeah.

[Sean Fennessy]

I'll be taking Sex Lies in videotape.

[Amanda Davis]

Okay.

[Sean Fennessy]

Now, this is a somewhat crowded field of movies that I like, but I think this is.

[Chris Ryan]

This movie is fucking.

[Sean Fennessy]

I think this might be the best movie in the mix that is left. And you mentioned this is Soderbergh's debut, written and directed by him. Premiered at Sundance. Instant sensation, wildly critically acclaimed and launched him. And he was the first guy from this stretch of mostly guys, but some women as well, who were put through the post Sundance world of, like, you get to do anything you want. You take on Hollywood movies. You get to those Hollywood movies fail. You get to make very experimental movies.

[Chris Ryan]

You get to hunt for Ben Solo.

[Sean Fennessy]

Well, unfortunately, you don't. But this is a really interesting character piece about people confronting their desires or not confronting them. And a very clever, like, chessboard kind of a movie where you see people's feelings getting pushed around by other people. And it feels like a very personal movie for Steven Soderbergh about the way that he sees relationships in the world. And he's kind of been prodded to talk about that over the years, but this is one that I do remember my parents coming home from seeing at a date night and being very excited about and very interested in. Really? Yeah. My mom, I don't know if she was a cinephile, but she's a big moviegoer, and she was blown away by this movie. I very vividly remember that I was.

[Chris Ryan]

Rewatching some of this last night in prep. Sometimes I just forget it. Spader is so good in this movie. I don't think it gets talked about enough. He is mesmerizing because this is shot kind of like a play, you know, and it's in these apartments and these kind of spare, spare sets and stuff like that. And he grabs the frame with so much power. It's really, really a wonderful performance. If you haven't seen it, it.

[Sean Fennessy]

Okay, any sex lesson videotapes, thoughts?

[Amanda Davis]

It was on my list and I'm jealous and I don't spend enough time. Peter Gallagher was very formative in my young life.

[Chris Ryan]

Yeah.

[Amanda Davis]

At least like my pre college life. Between sex lives and videotape. Center stage and the OC So James Pater was as well. But we already talked about him.

[Sean Fennessy]

It seemed like he was going to be.

[Amanda Davis]

And while you were sleeping, has he.

[Sean Fennessy]

Not worked with Soderbergh since the Underneath? The Underneath, probably the most kind of ignored Soderbergh movie. Right. Movie that came out in the mid-90s, was kind of his last big Hollywood movie before doing the Reset. It's a remake of Crisscross.

[Chris Ryan]

I think it's the heist movie.

[Sean Fennessy]

Yeah.

[Chris Ryan]

Right.

[Sean Fennessy]

There's a very strange movie that's beautifully lit, but I don't think he's been in one of his movies since then, which is super interesting because they, They're. They're a good match together too. Okay, sex, lies and videotape. Now what? Hmm. I don't have a great answer for where I want to go. I guess. I guess I'll take say Anything in comedy.

[Amanda Davis]

Okay.

[Chris Ryan]

You sharked that. That was my next pick.

[Sean Fennessy]

Say Anything is. Yeah, of course. John Cusack holding the boombox overhead. I'm sure you saw people during the Cubs game when he stood up. There was like a call in the ninth inning in the elimination game that the Cubs were playing. I was watching this on a plane and John Cusack was sitting in the front row, longtime massive Cubs fan. And he stood up and he went like this. When it was call strike three on a hit. It was a terrible strike three call. And it was memed instantaneously. It was very funny. Cameron Crowe, interesting timing for this. He is now releasing his memoir, which I'm really excited to read. And it's interesting. This year there's two filmmaker memoirs. It's Cameron Crowe and Abel Ferrara. And like, both of two, basically, like the two polarities of moviness. One that is the absolute dark core of humanity and one that is, I think, like a genuinely hopeful point of view on life. And say anything in Lloyd Dobler. Lloyd Dobler is maybe the original. He Made it okay for me to be weird character, you know, the like real idiosyncrasy.

[Amanda Davis]

Yeah. And also made it okay for me to not have good boundaries. But.

[Sean Fennessy]

I think he's a bit of a target missile for ladies like Amanda. Right. You know, like just like very self possessed, but deeply weird and into his stuff.

[Chris Ryan]

Yeah, yeah.

[Sean Fennessy]

Which is a type that I identify with.

[Chris Ryan]

Sure.

[Sean Fennessy]

For sure.

[Chris Ryan]

Kickboxing, you know, also elder abuse.

[Sean Fennessy]

Well, he's not for that. The film is about that.

[Chris Ryan]

Yeah. Which you wouldn't know from most.

[Sean Fennessy]

Speaking of Ione sky, who has no real knowledge of her father, John Mahoney. Terrible deeds. Yeah.

[Amanda Davis]

Yeah.

[Sean Fennessy]

And kind of a shocking twist in that movie when it's revealed what's happening.

[Chris Ryan]

It was like the principal thing of the last 20 minutes. Mahoney's.

[Sean Fennessy]

But there's like a reminder to the crisis of their relationship that I found very interesting that it's like kind of upends what you think a movie can be. You know, it's not. It doesn't have like hard resolutions and definitive.

[Chris Ryan]

It's more like a short story. It is like where something kind of comes out of nowhere and hits it. Which. I know you love short stories.

[Amanda Davis]

Yeah, I do. Yeah.

[Sean Fennessy]

Don't say anything bad about saying anything.

[Amanda Davis]

No, it's a great movie. I do think that you watch it when you're 15 or 12 or whatever and Lloyd Dobbler is one person to you and then you watch it at the age of 30 or 35 and.

[Sean Fennessy]

You'Re like, that's my husband. And that's great. And this is probably the one that I think set Cusack up more than anything to become the star that he was through the 80s and 90s.

[Amanda Davis]

Yeah.

[Sean Fennessy]

Okay. Those are pretty good.

[Chris Ryan]

Yeah.

[Sean Fennessy]

I feel okay about that.

[Amanda Davis]

This is totally unrelated. Well, it's. I'll do the train of thought because it's in your eyes. That's from the. Right. And so Peter Gabriel. Right. But so then Peter Gabriel also makes me think of Phil Collins.

[Sean Fennessy]

And then they were in Genesis.

[Amanda Davis]

Exactly. And then I was thinking about Genesis.

[Sean Fennessy]

Family.

[Amanda Davis]

I actually. Invisible time is like a fucking dynamite. Don't even.

[Chris Ryan]

I'm not.

[Sean Fennessy]

What's your favorite? The Lamb Lies down on Broadway.

[Amanda Davis]

Sure. And okay. We didn't talk about the music cue in House of Dynamite when Idris Elba runs out to the basketball like camp with. With Angel Reese and all the girls in there playing in the air tonight.

[Sean Fennessy]

So here's my. Here's my read on that. That must have been his campaign theme song.

[Amanda Davis]

Okay.

[Sean Fennessy]

So that that was sort of his theme song during his administration. But if that is the idea and we want to follow that. In the Air Tonight is a deranged theme song for a politician, but would also be in the hallowed tradition of politicians misunderstanding songs and making them the theme song.

[Amanda Davis]

No, excuse me. It was Don't Stop.

[Chris Ryan]

Don't stop. Right?

[Amanda Davis]

Okay. Please do not besmirch Go youo Own Way, which is an amazing song.

[Chris Ryan]

I love Go youo Own Way. It would also be incredibly funny if Bill Clinton had been like, this one's called the Chain. I love it.

[Sean Fennessy]

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[Amanda Davis]

Chris, you have a pick.

[Chris Ryan]

In comedy. I'll take Parenthood.

[Sean Fennessy]

Okay.

[Chris Ryan]

This is a movie I've seen so many times. It's actually in a lot of ways more of a drama than a comedy. But a lot of very funny performances. Steve Martin, Rick Moranis, Joaquin Phoenix, then known as Leaf.

[Amanda Davis]

Yeah.

[Chris Ryan]

Speaking of Aziz Ansari clips, there was a very funny one recently where he said he had been watching Parenthood and he was like, damn, who's this kid? And then he's like, lee Phoenix. Have I discovered a new Phoenix? I'm gonna get this guy in a movie. And it's obviously Joaquin. It's also one of my favorite Keanu Reeves performances.

[Sean Fennessy]

He's terrific.

[Chris Ryan]

Martha Plimpton's also really great in this. This obviously got adapted later to be a long running and very well loved NBC series, but this is Ron Howard's sort of portrait of a upper middle class American family on the rocks. And just a lot of big, big life moments happening to a bunch of different people at the same time. And very sweet, kind hearted movie, really. I've just been part of my life since the day it came out. It feels like. So don't know if you guys have a lot of time for this one.

[Sean Fennessy]

I love it.

[Amanda Davis]

Yeah.

[Chris Ryan]

Also another LOL Ganz and Babalu Mandel banger.

[Sean Fennessy]

Your boys.

[Chris Ryan]

Yeah.

[Sean Fennessy]

Your homies. Those are your guys.

[Amanda Davis]

I know.

[Sean Fennessy]

The thing I find devastating about this movie is Steve Martin's performance watching his son play baseball. That hurts me to watch that.

[Chris Ryan]

That's not funny. You know what I mean?

[Sean Fennessy]

No, it's powerful. I find that this is a. If you grew up in a suburban environment, this movie felt very close to what it was like. Yes. The complicated relationship between siblings. You know, the like black sheep who is also beloved by the. By the elder figure. You know, there's like, there's so many things. There's weird little nuances in this movie that are really sharp for something that was very broad and just like a pop blockbuster kind of, you know, mainstream ensemble.

[Amanda Davis]

Yes. Good pick.

[Sean Fennessy]

Thanks.

[Amanda Davis]

I have two in drama I will be taking born on the 4th of July, which is, I think Oliver Stone's best movie.

[Sean Fennessy]

Controversial.

[Amanda Davis]

And it is controversial.

[Chris Ryan]

And you know, it's actually U turn. This is best film.

[Sean Fennessy]

U turn is incredible.

[Amanda Davis]

I mean, I could, I could hear the case for jfk. I mean, I know everyone thinks that Platoon is the better Vietnam movie. But.

[Sean Fennessy]

But I think I prefer burn on the 4th of July to Platoon personally.

[Amanda Davis]

To watch. Yeah, yeah, yeah. To watch also. Just. It does star Tom Cruise in one of Tom Cruise's best performances. So. And he is like, it's right before Cruise becomes self aware of like the Tom Cruise ness of it all. And so. And that's a pretty magical. And. And it's the last movie probably where he is playing a character instead of being Tom Cruise playing a character. And even then it's like on. On the Border, you know, there is some shock in seeing all, you know, Tom Cruise cursing, being angry, you know, rejecting the us, all of that stuff. So I don't know. It's a great movie.

[Sean Fennessy]

And I've always been fascinated by the sliding door of if Cruise wins instead of Daniel Day Lewis and what happens to not Daniel Day Lewis's career, but Tom Cruise's career and what he is as a star, because he's not always seemed so solicitous of the Academy. He has not been driven by winning an Academy Award, obviously, but I wonder what it would have changed.

[Chris Ryan]

I mean, he still chases it through Magnolia, right? I mean, he still makes movies with.

[Amanda Davis]

Even after Magnolia for a bit.

[Sean Fennessy]

It doesn't really feel like he's chasing it, though. Like, I say that because those are two films about two disabled characters and they fit that classical mold of turning your life over physically to playing a part, which is still, I think, a strategy that works to help win Academy Awards. And in almost any other year, a young star like Cruz making that commitment to play Kovac would have won him something. But he just so happened to run into the single greatest actor of his generation and maybe the next couple. And it's just. I've thought about it in quiet moments of reflection. Good pick.

[Amanda Davis]

And then in sequel, I will take National Lampoon's Christmas vacation.

[Sean Fennessy]

Okay, so you're good?

[Amanda Davis]

Yeah, yeah, I'm good. I'm good. I mean, you got me shook. Chris's first three. I. But now we're just, you know, we're playing for second place.

[Chris Ryan]

We're playing. I don't know about that because people don't look at it like, oh, Chris is on such a run. They'll look at the totality of the.

[Amanda Davis]

Well, that's. I hope that people listen to the podcast and experience this emotional roller coaster in real time. I feel like you locked it down.

[Chris Ryan]

Parenthood.

[Sean Fennessy]

Okay. Yeah.

[Chris Ryan]

Wasn't like, oh, man, it's over.

[Sean Fennessy]

Well, you see, like this grid that we're looking at here, which is a new addition to our drafting strategy. Thank you to Jack for that. It would make more sense, I think, in the future to post the grid rather than the card that indicates what films you picked in which category. Because what you want to show is the order in which things were selected. And that would reveal the strength of your moves thus far. But you know what? Maybe you're about to fritter it all away.

[Amanda Davis]

Maybe. Wait, I didn't get to talk about. I just.

[Sean Fennessy]

I'm not saying that.

[Amanda Davis]

Yeah, by far my favorite.

[Chris Ryan]

Your favorite use of a septic tank.

[Amanda Davis]

I think it's probably how I learned what a septic tank is. Thinking about when in my life I was exposed. This one was early. This is maybe the second movie of 1989 that I ever saw because it was core in our home on TV all the time. Yeah. And we are recording this in the days before Halloween, which I, as a parent, I'm struggling to find my Halloween mom, you know?

[Chris Ryan]

Are you?

[Amanda Davis]

Yeah. But let me tell you.

[Sean Fennessy]

Come on, let's go.

[Amanda Davis]

I'm doing my best, but, like, you were there at Vidiot, you know, it's just. I didn't know to have the plastic bucket. And then you can't get past the plastic bucket. Did you hear about this? And then he was just, like, weeping in the Disney aisle. And then I was like, yeah, you.

[Chris Ryan]

Know what would help with that?

[Amanda Davis]

It happens.

[Chris Ryan]

A four hour Halo session just fragging some aliens.

[Amanda Davis]

Like, listen, I'm not crafty.

[Sean Fennessy]

That would help.

[Amanda Davis]

I'm not a Halloween mom. You know, I'm doing my best, but it's not where I thrive. I have other skills. But let me tell you, when that clock rolls over. November 1st, Clark Griswold, here I am. As you know, you dress like a candy cane.

[Chris Ryan]

Thank you.

[Sean Fennessy]

You put the mice up.

[Chris Ryan]

Yeah.

[Sean Fennessy]

Oh, yeah.

[Amanda Davis]

And I think probably this year, as the children become, like, more sentient, there. There are going to be no moving spookies this year. But will there be moving Santa Clauses?

[Sean Fennessy]

Probably.

[Amanda Davis]

And I'm open to it.

[Sean Fennessy]

Okay, so only Judeo Christian decorations in your home or.

[Amanda Davis]

Yes, we have an inflatable skeleton.

[Sean Fennessy]

Okay.

[Amanda Davis]

And.

[Sean Fennessy]

But that's not for Christmas. Or is that meant to represent Christ's birth?

[Amanda Davis]

Sure, yeah. Or also opening the tomb, you know?

[Sean Fennessy]

Sure. Yeah. Isn't that Easter?

[Chris Ryan]

I want to get him a manger. But it's just the baby Jesus's master chief from Halo so that he knows physically the savior.

[Amanda Davis]

Anyway, this is a great film.

[Sean Fennessy]

We're gonna absolutely crush this video. Game uncle is like, such an elite role in life.

[Amanda Davis]

That's fine. It will just. It will not cross my doorstep.

[Chris Ryan]

Yeah, sure.

[Amanda Davis]

That's not on my time.

[Sean Fennessy]

That's. You hold the line. Good luck. You'll definitely win.

[Amanda Davis]

You want. Watch me.

[Sean Fennessy]

You'll definitely win. Okay. First of all, I love that you keep selecting problematic comic stars in other categories. That's great. Chevy Chase, legendarily not a nice person, but is actually amazing in this movie. And in the final scene, near the final scene with Brian Doyle Murray, when he learns what his Christmas bonus is, you can make the case that's the best performance Chevy Chase has ever given. He's so funny and so enraged.

[Chris Ryan]

Is that Hallelujah. Holy shit.

[Sean Fennessy]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. This movie's great. Elaine Bennis, you know, Julie Louis Dreyfus as a next door neighbor. Real piece of shit in that movie. Yeah.

[Amanda Davis]

She doesn't get it. I feel that way about Halloween. I'm her until.

[Chris Ryan]

But I get into Christmas with Halloween. You're trying your best.

[Amanda Davis]

I'm trying. Yeah. Yeah.

[Chris Ryan]

What are you going as?

[Sean Fennessy]

Mom.

[Amanda Davis]

I'm going as just Mom.

[Chris Ryan]

Okay.

[Amanda Davis]

Yeah.

[Chris Ryan]

And you are going as Kristoff, but.

[Sean Fennessy]

Kristoff from Frozen 2.

[Chris Ryan]

Yeah.

[Sean Fennessy]

So.

[Amanda Davis]

Oh, interesting. So what is the costume difference there?

[Sean Fennessy]

The shade of tunic, I think, is a little different.

[Amanda Davis]

Has your tunic arrived?

[Sean Fennessy]

Yes.

[Chris Ryan]

You have a wig.

[Sean Fennessy]

I don't. I, I, I really seriously considered dyeing it white.

[Chris Ryan]

Is that what it would have to be called?

[Amanda Davis]

It would be, like, blonde. It would be like. It would be like Tim's.

[Sean Fennessy]

Probably would end up looking gray.

[Chris Ryan]

Yeah, that would look fucking.

[Amanda Davis]

It would look cool. You should do it.

[Chris Ryan]

I would love that.

[Sean Fennessy]

I kind of want to do it. Why not? I have nothing to lose.

[Amanda Davis]

I don't want to.

[Sean Fennessy]

It's too late now. Kristoff. I got to be Kristoff tomorrow.

[Amanda Davis]

Well, we could do it tonight, you know, or in the morning. But no, no, no. But. So now I'm just looking. You're saying that you. You know, I've never dyed my hair, so I don't really know, but I do. Do you wonder whether we would have to, like, strip the color from your hair before then turning it blonde? Because, like. Yeah. So dark hair turning lighter is an issue.

[Sean Fennessy]

I don't know anything about this.

[Chris Ryan]

I don't know where you'll find Alien Earth. If you did, it would be pretty sick.

[Amanda Davis]

Yeah.

[Sean Fennessy]

It's very generous of you to say that.

[Amanda Davis]

I mean, like, him.

[Sean Fennessy]

Yes, I will be Kristoff, and.

[Amanda Davis]

Yeah.

[Sean Fennessy]

Alice is Elsa and Eileen is Anna.

[Amanda Davis]

Okay. Yeah. It's with an. It's a long. It's a. Ah.

[Sean Fennessy]

Anna. Anna.

[Chris Ryan]

Got it.

[Sean Fennessy]

Yeah. Just so you know, Scandinavian really in origin. Right?

[Amanda Davis]

No, you're leaving. You're abandoned us.

[Sean Fennessy]

I'm not abandoning you.

[Chris Ryan]

I mean, I'm sorry. I'm not going to be here for you. You know, I love it.

[Sean Fennessy]

Is it because it's a pagan holiday that you won't be present?

[Chris Ryan]

No, I'm going to England. But like they have Halloween there. Maybe when I land tomorrow night, I'll be greeted by like Michael Myers, you know, that would be a cool way to bring me through customs.

[Sean Fennessy]

That'd be a great way to kick off the new Halloween franchise. Sierra gets off the plane, gets stabbed right away, right in the terminal.

[Chris Ryan]

In sequel, it's my turn, right? In sequel, I am going to take diplomatic community. Shout out to Joss Ackland, all my South African guys out there. And shout out to Patsy Kensett in Lethal Weapon. To my first love.

[Sean Fennessy]

Is she.

[Chris Ryan]

Yes.

[Sean Fennessy]

You just shouted out like apartheid guys and stuff.

[Chris Ryan]

They don't die to rest in peace. Okay, guys, but who are you.

[Sean Fennessy]

Who are you referencing?

[Chris Ryan]

What do you mean?

[Sean Fennessy]

The. The freed people of S. Like Mandela. Like, who are you talking about?

[Chris Ryan]

Those guys, you know, I mean, shout out, I see you dead. You know, like when Mel Gibson puts nine in your chest because you took his lady. I get it. And you pulls your house down. They don't make like this anymore.

[Sean Fennessy]

This movie's kind of deranged.

[Chris Ryan]

This has also got the toilet it explosion.

[Sean Fennessy]

That's when Danny Glover's on the can.

[Chris Ryan]

It's got Leo Getz, right? Is Leo gets in two or is he in three? No, he's actually.

[Sean Fennessy]

You're saying. Yeah, I think he's in two, right?

[Chris Ryan]

I'm pretty positive he's in two. And then he has a bigger role in three, right?

[Sean Fennessy]

Honestly, he is in two. Yeah, that's right.

[Chris Ryan]

What a great movie. Honestly, what a great movie. They let Martin Riggs be happy, but then they took it away from him. And then he takes everything from them. From apartheid.

[Sean Fennessy]

Well put.

[Chris Ryan]

Free Nelson Bandella, you dumb son of a. What a great message.

[Sean Fennessy]

What's the message?

[Chris Ryan]

Free Nelson Mandela.

[Sean Fennessy]

Sometimes you just gotta say it. Like you just gotta put it in the script. You know, you can cut together a.

[Chris Ryan]

Lot of the things that I've said in this. In this episode. It's pretty weird.

[Sean Fennessy]

That's true in most episodes, I think.

[Chris Ryan]

Yeah. Okay, you like this one? You don't have anything to say About Lethal Weapon 2?

[Sean Fennessy]

Lethal Weapon 2 Lethal Weapon in general is cool. Like, I like it.

[Chris Ryan]

Yeah.

[Sean Fennessy]

It's not in my. For you, it's a very important. And I, I respect that and I, I echo Van Lathan's. Why Mel? Why? You know, definitely a star. I really enjoy his movies, but seems like human garbage.

[Amanda Davis]

It's a. Through light of those. The 80s. A different time.

[Sean Fennessy]

It was a different time. Yes.

[Chris Ryan]

So is it going to be called Passion of the Christ Colon Resurrection?

[Sean Fennessy]

It's Passion of the Christmaster Chief and it's set in the world of Halo and Christ the Redeemer comes, but it's like he puts on the gear.

[Chris Ryan]

David Ellison is pumped right now. Look, it's all coming together.

[Sean Fennessy]

That's how you do it. Yeah. This is. This is money on the table. Oh, my God. Just come to the big picture. Ask us what you think you should do.

[Chris Ryan]

What is the bad guy? Is it called like the Horde or something?

[Sean Fennessy]

I've never played Halo.

[Chris Ryan]

You missed out.

[Amanda Davis]

So what's up with Halo?

[Chris Ryan]

What about it? Like, what do you do? Yeah, you're a guy named Master Chief. You're like a super soldier. You jump out of a spaceship and you fight aliens all over the place.

[Amanda Davis]

Oh, okay, okay. But like, are you. Is it like zero gravity? Are you floating?

[Chris Ryan]

No, you're. You're running.

[Amanda Davis]

Where?

[Chris Ryan]

I can't remember the name of the planet.

[Sean Fennessy]

It's really funny when you slip out of character and you actually just become like the base shitlord that you are, where you're just like, it's sick, bro. Like, and there's no affect. There's no irony. You were just literally like. I was sitting in my apartment. It was 2006, I was high as and I was playing Halo and my life was smoking indoors.

[Chris Ryan]

Playing Halo is actually the greatest human experience you can have.

[Sean Fennessy]

Pretty good. I don't really know what to do here.

[Amanda Davis]

What do you have left?

[Sean Fennessy]

Thanks for asking. Let's figure that out right now. So I've got drama, which you would think would be an easy category, and yet I feel a little bit stumped. I've got Blockbuster. I guess I have to take in Blockbuster. Back to the Future Part two, which I think is very, very good. And as sequels go, a lot of fun and a huge part of the. Became a huge part of the culture. Because of the hoverboards, because of the sports almanac, because of Trump.

[Chris Ryan]

Right. Isn't there like a Trump thing?

[Sean Fennessy]

Trump. There's a Trump thing, Yes. A movie that felt pressure at the time. We still don't have hoverboards.

[Amanda Davis]

Yeah.

[Sean Fennessy]

What's up with that? What's up with that?

[Chris Ryan]

I mean, it's weird where they put their money into.

[Sean Fennessy]

Weird what they put their money. Well, now it's all going into crypto.

[Chris Ryan]

Right. But, like, we could have hoverboards.

[Amanda Davis]

Right.

[Sean Fennessy]

Have you guys, like, talked about this on your other pods? About how, you know, Trump is trying to devalue the dollar so that he can pump up his crypto and his family?

[Chris Ryan]

I talked about that on Zach today.

[Amanda Davis]

Okay, great. I really do like when Business Chris comes on a podcast, you know, I.

[Chris Ryan]

Don'T know what I'm talking about. It's good.

[Sean Fennessy]

Back to the Future, too.

[Amanda Davis]

Yeah. We just have too much debt. You know, you just.

[Sean Fennessy]

Should there be.

[Amanda Davis]

I did say that.

[Sean Fennessy]

What did you say?

[Chris Ryan]

I said that. The problem is, is that you bought it with debt. But Warner Brothers Discovery was just, like, laden with Business Chris.

[Sean Fennessy]

Yeah, but he didn't personally buy it.

[Chris Ryan]

No, but he bought it with debt. Like, he used debt to buy it.

[Amanda Davis]

Right.

[Chris Ryan]

Like, he was like, put it on my discovered card.

[Sean Fennessy]

It's a good thing you're here.

[Chris Ryan]

Yeah.

[Sean Fennessy]

What category did you take this in, Sean? Blockbuster. Blockbuster, okay. Which leaves me with drama and wild cards. So I guess I have to take a drama, and I don't really know what to do. Can you guys vamp for a second for me?

[Chris Ryan]

Well, I mean, there's a bunch of.

[Amanda Davis]

Movies here that now I'm just looking at Chris's spreadsheet.

[Chris Ryan]

Well, it's not even a spreadsheet.

[Amanda Davis]

Yeah, I mean, this is like. We do it in the same way. Yeah. Okay. I just saw one on your long list. Don't you dare.

[Chris Ryan]

Had you seen. Had you seen Lethal Weapon too?

[Amanda Davis]

No.

[Sean Fennessy]

I know what I'm gonna pick. Okay. I know exactly what I'm gonna pick. This is not gonna win me any drafts, but I just watched it for the first time last I said I would talk about my parents, and I just saw the Fabulous Baker Boys for the first time in my life last night.

[Amanda Davis]

Oh, it's exciting.

[Sean Fennessy]

Which was honestly terrific. And, you know, a movie that my parents definitely saw on a date night and then would not shut the fuck up about for weeks.

[Amanda Davis]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Sean Fennessy]

And when we were talking about the middle of Hollywood and what this movie is, and I read a lot about it after I watched it. So this is a drama about two brothers who are musicians played by real life brothers Beau Bridges and Jeff Bridges. And they have had a long running kind of nightclub act where they perform piano tunes and Tin Pan Alley songs.

[Chris Ryan]

Two pianos Both pianos, two pianos, dueling pianos.

[Sean Fennessy]

And they've hit a bit of a snag because the club owners are growing tired of their shtick. They're not able to draw a crowd as much as they were in the past. And so they start auditioning female singers to join their actual. And they run through 37 auditions and they don't find a single talented person, though they do see a very funny Jennifer Tilly in her first movie role. And finally, an hour and a half late, Michelle Pfeiffer, AKA Susie diamond, shows up on their doorstep. And she is bedraggled and rude and one of the hottest people who's ever lived and has a stunning voice. And if you've seen Grease 2, you know that Michelle Pfeiffer knows how to sing, but maybe not quite like this. And then it becomes a kind of slow moving character study of this trio of people entrenched in this business relationship. And eventually a love affair develops between Jeff Bridges character and Michelle Pfeiffer. The movie, when we were Kids was legendary for this performance of Makin Whoopee in which Michelle Pfeiffer gets on the piano and sings. And wearing this red dress, considered one of the sexiest scenes in movie history. I'd never seen it. I'd seen pictures, I'd just never seen this movie. And did you man it, like, lived up?

[Chris Ryan]

Did you get a copy of it or something?

[Sean Fennessy]

Bought a copy of it probably a couple years ago. There's a Twilight Time Blu Ray that is out of print and hard to find. Yeah. And you can stream it, I guess. I'm sure it's available.

[Chris Ryan]

I think it's in the vod, but I don't think it's like available for streaming. And I would say if you haven't seen this, this is the color of money, of lounge acts.

[Sean Fennessy]

Totally. Very similar energy.

[Chris Ryan]

I think it's good. Michael Bauhaus shot it.

[Sean Fennessy]

Same cinematographer. Same cinematographer. A lot of smoking, a lot of dank, dark rooms. A lot of like every character on the periphery is kind of an asshole. It's written and directed by Steve Cloves, who is probably best known now as the writer of all the Harry Potter movies.

[Chris Ryan]

He did this. He did Flesh and Bone.

[Sean Fennessy]

Flesh and Bone.

[Chris Ryan]

And then he writes like 10 Harry Potter movies or however many Harry Potter movies. Plus is like producer or consultant on the Fantastic Beast.

[Sean Fennessy]

Yes. And he wrote this movie when he was in his 20s because I think his parents were into this kind of music. And he remembered seeing an act on the Tonight show who performed in this fashion. And just one of those weird things where he just really believed in himself and was like, I'm not going to sell this script. I need to direct this movie. And it seemed like maybe at a certain point George Roy Hill was going to come on board to help him with it. And he ultimately didn't do it. But it's just a darn good drama. And I love to discover something like this that is like a well known movie that has been on my blinders for a long time. And I say all this to say, much like Tom Cruise, Michelle Pfeiffer not winning for this performance is fucking crazy.

[Chris Ryan]

It's one of the best.

[Sean Fennessy]

And Jessica Tandy winning is bullshit. Like it, you know, Driving Miss Daisy. Whatever you think about the racial politics, it's terrible. She gives, like a nice performance. But compared to what Michelle Pfeiffer is asked to do in this movie, it's night and day.

[Chris Ryan]

One of the best character introductions is her. Her tryout song that she does. And it's also like, she comes in and they're just like, well, like, where have you been playing? And she's like, well, I've been a high class escort for the last however long. And Jeff Bridges just is like looking down. And when she says that, he kind of like looks up and then he goes, what would you like to play for? Would you like, what are you gonna sing for us today? And it's like Bridges is smoldering this movie. He's so good.

[Sean Fennessy]

It's so easy to forget because of the Big Lebowski and Crazy heart and True Grit that he was such a student.

[Amanda Davis]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Sean Fennessy]

He was such a heartthrob.

[Amanda Davis]

I've never forgotten Jagged Edge.

[Sean Fennessy]

So, yeah, it's a very similar era.

[Amanda Davis]

This is, I mean, to the Michelle Pfeiffer thing. I have always felt like, slightly after, like the Michelle Pfeiffer era in the same way I've like Demi Moore. It was just we were like a bit younger and so I wasn't there for it. And I didn't understand what. What our parents were really talking about. And then you see Fabulous Baker Boys and you're like, oh, I see.

[Sean Fennessy]

For us, it was like that was Dangerous Minds era. Michelle Pfeiffer when we were teenagers. And this is.

[Chris Ryan]

But it was like this and Tequila Sunrise, right?

[Sean Fennessy]

Yes, yes. That's really the heart of her fame. So anyway, that's my drama pick.

[Amanda Davis]

That's great.

[Chris Ryan]

Steve Kloves, what's up?

[Sean Fennessy]

I don't know, man. I'm such a good Screenplay. There's a fight between the two of them near the end of the film where they're kind of like lecturing each other. That's very like if Sorkin knew how to write about the relationships between non politicians. But it's just like really brilliantly written and acted. Okay, cr. You've got two more picks, right?

[Chris Ryan]

Yeah. And I have Wild Card and I have action horror thriller.

[Amanda Davis]

Okay.

[Sean Fennessy]

Can I just say I do feel good about my board after all that.

[Amanda Davis]

Okay, it came around.

[Chris Ryan]

There's what I want to pick, and there's what I should pick. Okay, I'm gonna go with what I want to pick because I also want to talk about a news item that you may or may not have seen. So I'm gonna pick Roadhouse for action horror thriller. And I want to talk to you about the dueling Roadhouse sequels.

[Amanda Davis]

Okay.

[Chris Ryan]

Did you know about this incredible segue?

[Amanda Davis]

So one of them is the. Is the Doug Lyman. No, it's not.

[Chris Ryan]

Guy Richie is supposed to direct. No, not Guy Ritchie.

[Sean Fennessy]

It was gonna be Guy Ritchie. And now it's another director whose name escapes me. So he is making the sequel to the recent Jake Gyllenhaal, Amazon MGM Roadhouse.

[Chris Ryan]

Which Jake Gyllenhaal is starring in, and it's gonna be on Amazon.

[Amanda Davis]

Okay.

[Sean Fennessy]

Now, Doug Lymon was the director of the original remake.

[Amanda Davis]

Yes.

[Chris Ryan]

Doug Liman has apparently also started going forward with a sequel based on a book or screenplay. Screenplay by the original screenwriter who is also claiming that the copyright on the Roadhouse IP has reverted to him.

[Amanda Davis]

Ah, okay.

[Chris Ryan]

And it is basically like a sequel to the original Roadhouse where it's like Dylan. Dylan lives or whatever. Like, I mean, Dylan did live, but he's out there in the world doing Roadhouse stuff. The idea that we. Doug Lyman is such a real one, man. Like, he might be out of his.

[Amanda Davis]

Gourd, but also like speaking of people where you just hear a lot of stories of just absolutely insane, but the.

[Chris Ryan]

Fact is that he's still so pissed off that Roadhouse didn't stay in theaters that he's like, I'm going to make a different Roadhouse.

[Sean Fennessy]

So the funny thing about this is that there actually is a Roadhouse 2 that came out in 2006. It was a direct to video action movie. And it appears that the writer that you're referring to does have a credit on that movie. R. Lance Hill, whose pen name is David Lee Henry, and I think he's credited with already having made a Roadhouse 2, which is a movie that Nobody has seen.

[Chris Ryan]

Of course, I don't know what that does to Doug Lyman's and his copyright argument with the Amazon Corporation, but this is just fascinating. Besides all that. Roadhouse was one of those. When I saw it on video when I was 12 or 13, I was just like the female form. And also tearing a man's throat out are the two most important things in.

[Sean Fennessy]

The world to me in this film. You get both. You get Kelly Lynch.

[Amanda Davis]

It's 1989, year of the female body investigator hat.

[Chris Ryan]

No, I was younger. Like a little older than I was like seven when I did that.

[Amanda Davis]

And then your mom made you return it.

[Sean Fennessy]

I was really innocent.

[Chris Ryan]

Yeah. Like, I wasn't like, I want to inspect female bodies. I was like, I, I respect.

[Sean Fennessy]

I like how you're presenting that as like a real counterpoint to most of the guys who get that hat. It's like, well, obviously if you buy that hat, it means you're investigating bodies.

[Chris Ryan]

I just. I just stood with law enforcement at a young age.

[Sean Fennessy]

Age.

[Chris Ryan]

I was just one of Hoover's little cubs, you know.

[Amanda Davis]

Did you have to walk back to the store to return it?

[Chris Ryan]

I don't remember. There may have been me in the backseat of the car waiting while my mother asked why this Walgreens was selling a female body inspector hat. Anyway. Roadhouse. Yeah.

[Sean Fennessy]

Nice pick.

[Chris Ryan]

Thanks.

[Amanda Davis]

Okay. Really good.

[Sean Fennessy]

Amanda, you've got your last two picks. I do.

[Amanda Davis]

I have Oscar nominee and Wild Card.

[Sean Fennessy]

There are so many good movies left.

[Amanda Davis]

Yes. I know what I'm going to do. You. And it's. And it's being true to myself. Chris Ryan. Christopher Ryan. If I say to you, look at this stuff, isn't it neat? Wouldn't you think? My. Can you. Can you finish the sentence?

[Chris Ryan]

No. What is this?

[Sean Fennessy]

It's the Little Mermaid.

[Chris Ryan]

Oh, I haven't seen it.

[Amanda Davis]

Yeah, that's what I said. It's part of.

[Chris Ryan]

From Henry V. Part of.

[Amanda Davis]

It's from part of your world, which is one of the great songs written for. In cinema history. It's up there with that thing you do and shallow, in my opinion, thingamabobs.

[Sean Fennessy]

I've got plenty.

[Amanda Davis]

Yes.

[Sean Fennessy]

Yeah. Ariel. Love it.

[Amanda Davis]

But who cares? No big deal. I want more.

[Sean Fennessy]

I mean, I want more.

[Amanda Davis]

Listen, I restrain. I kept myself from not singing it, but was I singing it last night by myself?

[Sean Fennessy]

I want to be where the people are. I want to see.

[Amanda Davis]

Want to see them dancing, walking along on those. What are they called again?

[Chris Ryan]

I thought she's so she's a mermaid, but she has up where they walk.

[Sean Fennessy]

She has aspirations to be a hero. Yeah.

[Amanda Davis]

Because of Prince Eric.

[Sean Fennessy]

Because she sees Prince Eric. She saves Prince Eric from a burning ship.

[Chris Ryan]

Okay.

[Sean Fennessy]

That has been shipwrecked.

[Chris Ryan]

Prince of what?

[Amanda Davis]

It's a great question.

[Chris Ryan]

Portugal.

[Sean Fennessy]

Really good question. Unclear, one would assume. Is it based on Hans Christian Andersen's story?

[Amanda Davis]

Yeah.

[Chris Ryan]

Of the Netherlands.

[Sean Fennessy]

So you would think it would be. Yes.

[Amanda Davis]

Well, I thought Denmark. I thought that was a Danish situation. Yeah. Respect to all of northern Europe. We understand you and see you. This is a song that also rhymes. Bright young women with. Sick of swimmin. Ready to stand and ready to know what the. I mean, listen, that's. It's a rallying cry.

[Sean Fennessy]

I.

[Amanda Davis]

When I. When Knox was first born and I would like, try to sing him to sleep, I realized that there are not that many songs that I can do. Like acapella. Every single word.

[Chris Ryan]

To memory. Yeah.

[Amanda Davis]

Yeah. But it's can't take my eyes off of you, which I know because of heath ledger and 10 things I hate about you. And then it's part of your world. Anyway, Little Mermaid just absolute, like, you know, exploded through pre K and kindergarten. Were we running around on the playground doing the, like, you know, the. Ah. Because Ursula, the evil octopus wants Ariel's voice. It's not a great thing to teach young women, you know, which is that you trade your voice and your sense of self in order to be able to go, like, chase a random prince.

[Sean Fennessy]

Well, it's a mistake.

[Amanda Davis]

She learns a lesson.

[Sean Fennessy]

She has a trial. She does like all the great characters, as Joseph Campbell taught us, you know, it's.

[Amanda Davis]

Her priorities. Could use some work. And she's also that child.

[Sean Fennessy]

She's doing it for a man.

[Amanda Davis]

Part of your world is sung in a cave, in a cavern.

[Chris Ryan]

Yeah.

[Amanda Davis]

Of stuff I can't.

[Chris Ryan]

It's hard for me to visualize and also tell this story to myself while you're. I'm trying to. I'm trying to put my. Wrap my head around.

[Amanda Davis]

So it's like an underwater cave that sort of looks like an underwater Guggenheim. And she has, like. She collects forks. She collects like. Like any human object that makes it to the underworld because she's really interested in life outside of the. Anyway, I just want to say, powerful film.

[Sean Fennessy]

This is a great movie.

[Amanda Davis]

Yeah.

[Sean Fennessy]

And. And I was exposed to this movie. I did not see it in theaters at 7 years old. Even though I love Disney films to this day, because I have a sister who's two years younger than me and my sister Kara. This movie ran her life. When I was a little kid. And it's so funny because obviously my daughter loves this movie as well. I know all the words to every song because of my daughter now. But it's like they came back to me after having a 30 year rest.

[Amanda Davis]

Oh yeah.

[Sean Fennessy]

And two things about that one. God, every day my daughter reminds me of my sister Kara so much. They look exactly the same. They have the same attitude about things. It's so weird. Anyway, the other thing is that there's a great documentary, if people have never seen it, called Howard on Disney, which is about Howard Ashman, who was one of the producers of the Little Mermaid and wrote a lot of the songs. And he wrote the songs for Beauty and some of the songs for Beauty and the Beast. He wrote some of the songs for Little Shop of Horror. And you can see him in this documentary teaching the performers in these films the way to deliver these songs really. And it is amazing.

[Chris Ryan]

Is it on Disney?

[Sean Fennessy]

It's on Disney. It's really good. It came out during COVID I want to say 2018 actually. But I would highly recommend if you like the Little Mermaid. Checking out this documentary?

[Amanda Davis]

I do.

[Sean Fennessy]

Good bet.

[Amanda Davis]

Incredible. Thank you. I don't know if you'll ever see.

[Chris Ryan]

It, but I mean, I'll probably see A Little Mermaid before I see this documentary about the guy writing the songs probably.

[Sean Fennessy]

But if you want to see him teach Jerry Orbach how to sing like a candelabra, then I would recommend it. I have a whole Lumiere take too, but I'll save that.

[Amanda Davis]

Have you seen Beauty and the Beast?

[Sean Fennessy]

No. This is the one, by the way, that reignites the starts. The new Disney golden age.

[Chris Ryan]

Was this one of the. Was this still in the era of Disney movies where it was like, like available for a limited time and then it goes back on the shelf like there was like.

[Sean Fennessy]

Did they do that practice? Yeah, they had the very famous clamshell VHS tapes. Yeah, we definitely own this.

[Amanda Davis]

We didn't have that. We didn't have the clamshell, but.

[Chris Ryan]

So I have wild card left.

[Amanda Davis]

This is, this is the easiest wild card that I've ever. I've ever wild carded. I'm not, I'm not gonna do like two movie recitations in a row. I'm doing true Beverly Hill and I was gonna go Beverly Hills. What a thrill. Beverly Hills. I saw this movie at Alice Johnson's birthday party. So it must have been like a sixth birthday.

[Sean Fennessy]

Alice Johnson.

[Amanda Davis]

Alice Johnson, who was a good friend of mine at school and she was the girls valedictorian in my High school. Because my high school was so.

[Sean Fennessy]

And you guys weren't rivals that we.

[Amanda Davis]

No, no, no, no, no. Okay. You guys, I should have.

[Sean Fennessy]

You were the boys valedictorian, so I should.

[Amanda Davis]

No, my high school boyfriend was obviously. I should have been salutator. I should have been salutatorian. But let me tell you something. They waited. Honors classes and AP classes. The same. So someone snuck in that. Yeah.

[Chris Ryan]

Do you and Alice still talk or was that the end of that?

[Amanda Davis]

It's fine.

[Sean Fennessy]

Okay. But you were not competitive with Alice. No. You were competitive with this other girl who snuck her way to Salutatorium.

[Amanda Davis]

I wasn't even competitive with her. It was just kind of like let's. Let's be real.

[Sean Fennessy]

Got it, got it, got it.

[Amanda Davis]

But that's fine.

[Sean Fennessy]

It was an I don't think about you at all situation.

[Amanda Davis]

Yeah, I don't.

[Chris Ryan]

Which you clearly don't.

[Sean Fennessy]

You have not really remembered it at all either.

[Amanda Davis]

I mean, I just don't think that that's fair. Mathematic. But that's whatever. Wow.

[Sean Fennessy]

Do you think that maybe Trump could do something about this retroactively or like, should we take it to the courts?

[Amanda Davis]

Alice Johnson is great in my book because she took AP classes and also she taught me about True Beverly Hills, which is an absolutely delightful. I saw it before I saw Clueless. So the Los Angeles of True Beverly Hills, which includes the Sleepover at the Beverly Hills Hotel. Loom's largest. In my mind, the. It reflects a similar relationship to, I guess, scouting groups that I had in my own life.

[Sean Fennessy]

You were.

[Amanda Davis]

No, I was. No, I couldn't be part of that. Can you imagine me doing one of the, like the. The Wilderness Girls, like Trial or whatever, and selling.

[Sean Fennessy]

Hard to believe you didn't make Salutatorian with that attitude.

[Chris Ryan]

I primarily know this movie because of Jenny Lewis.

[Amanda Davis]

Yeah, yeah.

[Sean Fennessy]

And Carla Gugino.

[Sponsor Announcer]

Sure.

[Amanda Davis]

Yeah.

[Sean Fennessy]

Yeah, yeah. The. The seeds of all of our beloved actors and singers.

[Amanda Davis]

Great movie.

[Sean Fennessy]

Shelley Long, another person who was like insanely famous in 1989. And now if you asked the 25 year old who's Shelley Long, they would have. No idea.

[Chris Ryan]

Yeah, but like 51 million people watched her once a week.

[Sean Fennessy]

Five years.

[Chris Ryan]

This is.

[Sean Fennessy]

This is probably in the top five movies all time for I love. I think she's probably seen it more than any movie.

[Amanda Davis]

Yeah, of course. I need one of the books with a camera built into it. I think I even tried to make one.

[Sean Fennessy]

I don't even remember that scene, but.

[Amanda Davis]

Okay. Well, that's how the assistant goes undercover. With true Beverly Hills and takes reports back to the mean Redfeather's mom and head of the Wilderness Girls.

[Sean Fennessy]

Interesting. Okay, Chris, you've got Wild Card.

[Chris Ryan]

There's a lot of really, really, really so much left.

[Sean Fennessy]

Should this have been a mega movie draft?

[Chris Ryan]

Could have been, but I, I would have wanted to have done it in a, like, way that focused on the, like, third shelf down video rentals as a category. Because I get really split on whether to pick something that's well regarded versus what I actually watched a lot in my life. I'll split the middle and just pick Major Leagues for Wild Card.

[Sean Fennessy]

Yeah.

[Chris Ryan]

I have two baseball movies. How about that? Major League. One of my most beloved, treasured movies from this era. One of the great baseball movies, honestly. Charlie Sheen, Tom Barringer, Dennis Haysbert about Cleveland Indians season. Wesley Snipes. That is where the owner wants the team to lose and the team refuses to do so and goes on to win the pennant, I believe.

[Sean Fennessy]

Yes.

[Chris Ryan]

And I was just thinking about it because I was watching baseball last night, so it's obviously on the mind, but just like a really, really great David Anspaw movie that captures, like, not only I, I. This movie is really hard to pull off. To have all these guys convincingly play baseball, to have like a, a professional sports fictional arc that comes up believable.

[Sean Fennessy]

That's the thing is it's taking place in the world of Major League Baseball. Like the, the, the Cleveland Indians at the time and the Yankees are in the movie.

[Amanda Davis]

Yeah.

[Sean Fennessy]

You know, it feels like it's happening inside of the sport. That's something that you just don't see very often at this point, you know, or if you do, it's like in Draft Day and they're talking about being the Browns, but they're not actually the Browns. I watched this movie 500 times. I think this movie is so great and so fun. And also another one of those, like when you're a kid, a portal into being an adult.

[Chris Ryan]

Yes.

[Sean Fennessy]

Like the relationship between. Is it Renee Russo and Tom Barringer?

[Chris Ryan]

Yeah.

[Sean Fennessy]

Where I was like, that's what it's like. You date a woman like Renee Russo and it's complicated, but you work it out. Like those are relationships. Yeah. Okay. Really good pick. So that was the, that was the movie that I was going to say, if I want to feel like I'm trying to win, like, I would take Major League because everybody loves Major League. If you've seen Major League, you like Major League. If I'm being honest with myself.

[Amanda Davis]

Okay.

[Sean Fennessy]

The movie that I should take is Roger and Me, which is Michael Moore's documentary. It's kind of exploration, very personal film about trying to find answers from the CEO of Ford Motor Company at a time in which that the car company was significantly downsizing its workforce and moving a lot of its work overseas. And it's the first Michael Moore movie. Like a lot of aspiring leftist kids in the 1990s, I got really interested in Michael Moore's movies. I've soured on some aspects of Michael Moore over the years, but I've always been very interested in him. I wrote a really long piece about him for the Ringer eight or nine years ago and just kind of how important his movies were to be me. And this movie is like a. Is just a fascinating example of how great documentary filmmaking can be because this is. This movie was a big hit and it was. It's very conventionally entertaining because it's so personal. Because Michael Moore spends so much time talking about his family, his parents, his dad who worked for the Ford Motor Company. Is it Ford or gm? I hope I'm not making it up.

[Chris Ryan]

I can't remember.

[Sean Fennessy]

It might be General Motors. I'm sorry if I'm mixing those two up, but I. Gm. It's gm. Thank you. I don't. This is probably the first documentary I've ever seen, and it obviously made a huge impact on me. And I wonder.

[Chris Ryan]

It's like this, and it's almost like do the right thing, probably change the course of your life and the way you looked at the world kind of movie, even if you didn't see it in 89 or whatever.

[Sean Fennessy]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I still. I still pop on the older ones, the first three or four Michael Moore movies, and I still have a lot of affection for them. I think that as he, you know, after he won the best documentary feature film for. Was it for Fahrenheit 911 and then bowling for Columbine, and he became this, like, huge box office figure, right?

[Amanda Davis]

And like. And a pop culture figure very much.

[Sean Fennessy]

And like a talk show host or talk show guest all the time, he became very overexposed. And I think that, you know, he's much more complicated now in the public eye than he was back then. But this is a big deal movie for me, so I'm going to go with that. Okay, that's the end of our draft.

[Amanda Davis]

That's beautiful.

[Sean Fennessy]

We have many, many, many honorable mentions to go through here because of how robust this year was. I'll start with a couple of, like, major films that just didn't get drafted.

[Amanda Davis]

Okay.

[Sean Fennessy]

Gus Van Zandt's Drugstore Cowboy, also one of the kind of signature independent film films, Casualties of War. Brian De Palma's Vietnam film, which is just incredibly painful and difficult to watch.

[Chris Ryan]

Is the Abyss 89.

[Sean Fennessy]

James Cameron's the Abyss is 1989, his first journey below.

[Amanda Davis]

De Palma's very charming in the Scorsese doc. I just.

[Sean Fennessy]

Absolutely.

[Amanda Davis]

Yeah. I just. As soon as you said his name, I was like, oh, we didn't really talk about that. But really lovely.

[Sean Fennessy]

I mean, like, an actual friend. Yeah, but it's like. But he's, like, kind of competitive with him still, you know, like, that pops out.

[Amanda Davis]

Yeah, it's great.

[Sean Fennessy]

Yeah, I like that, too. I thought long and hard about Miracle Mile. Have you seen that movie?

[Chris Ryan]

I thought long and hard about Miracle Mile.

[Sean Fennessy]

Yeah, we're thinking long and hard about it now. In the aftermath of House of Dynamite. Do you see House of Dynamite yet?

[Chris Ryan]

I didn't. I will.

[Amanda Davis]

Okay. Yeah, we know. We. You know, we know what you think.

[Chris Ryan]

Yeah.

[Sean Fennessy]

You're too busy watching the cemetery down by the graveyard. Is that the name of that show?

[Chris Ryan]

Cemetery Road.

[Sean Fennessy]

Okay.

[Chris Ryan]

I will see House of Dead. Wait.

[Sean Fennessy]

Crimes and Misdemeanors. Undrafted.

[Amanda Davis]

Yeah.

[Sean Fennessy]

No thoughts?

[Chris Ryan]

Pretty amazing. Amazing. Pretty amazing movie.

[Sean Fennessy]

Henry V. Thought about it.

[Amanda Davis]

I thought about trying to be cute and being like, well, there was a Henry iv.

[Chris Ryan]

I was gonna say you could. I was gonna try and squeeze it in the sequel. There's something kind of crazy.

[Amanda Davis]

What was Henry IV's Henry IV?

[Chris Ryan]

1 and 2, part 1 and 2 are like the young man Henry before. And there's parts of Henry iv, Part one and Two, in Henry V, the movie.

[Sean Fennessy]

I see. Okay.

[Amanda Davis]

That's how. Yeah.

[Chris Ryan]

Involve the Falstaff stuff. It's been wild because I feel like we're having a weird moment in pop culture where a bunch of the people from these movies are popping up and stuff. So Emma Thompson is in this series that you just besmirched. Daniel Day Lewis, obviously an anemone. Like, just watching these people as very young actors.

[Amanda Davis]

Yeah.

[Chris Ryan]

Still with us all these years later.

[Sean Fennessy]

This is 36 years ago.

[Chris Ryan]

Yeah.

[Sean Fennessy]

There's several other films. I mean, Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure is this year. That's, you know, critical movie. How to get Ahead in advertising is this year. The Burbs. Joe Dante's the Burbs. Phenomenal movie. Uncle Buck, the War of the Roses, maybe the biggest movie not drafted here today.

[Amanda Davis]

I thought about it, but. And we did a rewatchables on it. I like that movie. It's also. By the time it had been. By the time I was old enough to see it, I feel like it was a little outdated.

[Sean Fennessy]

I see I still have not seen the Roses.

[Amanda Davis]

Nor have I. I was about to say, but I got an email that it's coming to streaming at some point.

[Sean Fennessy]

Yes. Weekend at Bernie's.

[Chris Ryan]

I gotta tell you, I think I may have seen Weekend at Bernie's more than any other movie in my life.

[Sean Fennessy]

I think the only movie I've seen more than Weekend at Bernie's is weekend at Bernie's 2, which was also on cable quite a bit growing up.

[Chris Ryan]

Andrew McCarthy in Weeknd at Bernie's is a powerhouse performer.

[Sean Fennessy]

Performance. Is it?

[Chris Ryan]

Yeah, it's up there with my left foot. Daniels gleaming the Cube. Big, big Slater movie for me. Police Academy six. City Under Siege.

[Sean Fennessy]

Yep.

[Chris Ryan]

We're just Citizens on Patrol. I think this is Citizens on patrol.

[Sean Fennessy]

Police Academy 6 is city under Siege.

[Chris Ryan]

Okay, so you.

[Sean Fennessy]

But you just referenced it as though it were my left foot. You're like Police Academy 6. City under siege. Of course, in the canon. One of the great films.

[Amanda Davis]

Yeah.

[Sean Fennessy]

Certainly a movie I saw a lot. Police Academy, Major League. Look who's Talking.

[Amanda Davis]

Yeah.

[Sean Fennessy]

All of these. Honey, I Shrunk the kids. Weekend of Bernie's. These are movies that I saw over and over and over again.

[Amanda Davis]

But I preferred both look who's Talking two.

[Sean Fennessy]

Because that's when there's two kids.

[Amanda Davis]

And also the animals. Right.

[Sean Fennessy]

I thought three was talking now.

[Amanda Davis]

Oh, you're right. Okay. Well, anyway, the numbers, you know, is.

[Sean Fennessy]

It Roseanne in Look who's Talking to as the other voice. It's. Bruce Willis is in the first one. Right. He's the Baby two.

[Amanda Davis]

Okay, let's see. Yes. And then. I can't.

[Sean Fennessy]

I. I've not directed look who's Talking.

[Chris Ryan]

Right. Amy Hackerling.

[Amanda Davis]

So we need to respond.

[Sean Fennessy]

The movie was a fucking sensation.

[Amanda Davis]

Huge hit. Yes, it is, Roseanne. You're right. And then I remember. And then the third one is the. Anyway, I think look who's Talking to is better than look who's Talking.

[Sean Fennessy]

That's so crazy.

[Amanda Davis]

What?

[Sean Fennessy]

I don't want to spoil this, but in a movie that is coming out later this year, there's like a Look who's Talking homage.

[Chris Ryan]

Is it in ripped?

[Sean Fennessy]

I don't. I don't want to spoil it.

[Amanda Davis]

Have I seen it?

[Sean Fennessy]

Yeah, I don't want to spoil it. I mean, it may not be purposeful, but it's something that is represented in both. In that film, this new upcoming film. And the original film, is it in Hamnet? It is not.

[Amanda Davis]

Okay, well, now I'm trying to think about what it is.

[Sean Fennessy]

I don't want to spoil it.

[Amanda Davis]

Okay, don't spoil it.

[Sean Fennessy]

Because I loved it and I don't even know how intentional it was, but if it was intentional, that's fucking.

[Amanda Davis]

That's really funny. And then. Wait, no, no, no. But then also I also feel that Honey I Blew up the Kids is better than Hon Honey I Shrunk the Kids because the giant baby just. You know, I have a lot of affection for giant babies given my own. But I mean, there is a real side quality to that kid. Just like, where do I go?

[Sean Fennessy]

How do I Shrunk the Kids was cool as a kid.

[Amanda Davis]

It was cool.

[Sean Fennessy]

It was a cool movie.

[Amanda Davis]

I also, I think that on the one time that we went to Disney World, which was lovely. I loved Disney World. I went when I was seven. And there was also. I don't know which other part had the Honey I Shrunk the Kids.

[Chris Ryan]

Universal probably.

[Amanda Davis]

Yeah, like.

[Chris Ryan]

Or MGM or whatever it was.

[Sean Fennessy]

I thought it was Disney. I thought that was a touchstone movie. I could be wrong.

[Amanda Davis]

I have a vivid memories of like a Honey I Shrunk the Kids. Branded, like extended jungle gym where you would run through everything and everything was much bigger than you and you were the small kid. And that's like. That's what stayed with me even more than Space Mountain.

[Sean Fennessy]

Honey I Shrunk the Kids was Walt Disney and Buena Vista Pictures.

[Amanda Davis]

Okay.

[Sean Fennessy]

Okay. A few more to go through. The adventures of Baron Munchausen.

[Chris Ryan]

Terry Gilliam.

[Sean Fennessy]

Terry Gilliam movie. Of course. Cinema Paradiso was released in America in this year and it was nominated for best Foreign Language film.

[Chris Ryan]

I see you're going on the art house track here. Please can I shout out Jim Jarmusch's Mystery Train?

[Sean Fennessy]

Yes. One of the best.

[Chris Ryan]

One of the great cultural mixtapes. Cause it introduced me to a bunch of different stuff that I had no idea about, like Screaming Jay Hawkins and rockabilly and. And it's just an incredible hangout movie that I think is on Criterion Channel.

[Sean Fennessy]

It is. I just saw Father, Mother, Sister, Brother, his new film, which is like Mystery Train, an anthology movie. Sorry to Amanda about that. I thought it was great. I really, really, really liked it. And it has a lot of. It has some Mystery Train echoes. There was a Q and A after the screening with Jim. And was Driver there? Driver was not there. I'll tell you who was there. Watching the film with me was Charlie xc. I she was in the screening room and she seemed to enjoy it.

[Chris Ryan]

Did she dap you up and say, I respect your work?

[Sponsor Announcer]

Yeah.

[Sean Fennessy]

She said, what's up, homie? It's me again. And I said, thank you for Brat. Other films.

[Amanda Davis]

You didn't like Brat.

[Sean Fennessy]

I just.

[Amanda Davis]

You didn't. I thought it was fun. I remember I was there. You were like, I listened to the first part and I don't need to.

[Sean Fennessy]

Go through with it because it was a female musician.

[Chris Ryan]

It's the problem.

[Sean Fennessy]

Yeah. Okay. No one drafted My Left Foot, which, as we discussed the name of the illness, it's like. It's pretty good.

[Chris Ryan]

That's fine.

[Amanda Davis]

Yeah.

[Sean Fennessy]

Glory.

[Amanda Davis]

Yeah.

[Chris Ryan]

Probably hasn't aged great.

[Sean Fennessy]

No. I've seen it at least a few times because of school. The white gaze.

[Chris Ryan]

Yeah, the gaze.

[Sean Fennessy]

Z.

[Chris Ryan]

Of the white gaze. Yeah.

[Sean Fennessy]

And what about it?

[Chris Ryan]

It just hasn't aged well.

[Sean Fennessy]

The white gaze of that film.

[Chris Ryan]

Yes. Yeah, the white gaze. Z in general has not aged great either.

[Sean Fennessy]

Interesting.

[Chris Ryan]

Try to mix it up a little bit.

[Amanda Davis]

And here we all are.

[Sean Fennessy]

Yeah, fair enough. Interesting points were made. Have you guys seen A Dry White Season?

[Chris Ryan]

Yeah.

[Amanda Davis]

No.

[Sean Fennessy]

This is a courtroom thriller that actually. Didn't it garner Marlon Brando an Academy Award nomination? I believe that it did, yes. He was nominated for an Academy Award for Best Supporting actor. Eugene Paul C. Is the director of this movie, and it's also set in South Africa during apartheid. It's kind of a. Would be an interesting double feature with Lethal Weapon 2.

[Chris Ryan]

That's right.

[Sean Fennessy]

Yeah.

[Chris Ryan]

Diplomatic immunity night.

[Sean Fennessy]

More Star Trek 5. The Final Frontier. Not a huge fan of that one. A Nightmare on Elm Street. The Dream Child. Not the best. Halloween. 5. The Revenge of Michael Myers. A film that should be deleted. Six.

[Chris Ryan]

Six. Yeah. I'd rather watch six, which is the Paul Rudd one. Right.

[Sean Fennessy]

I don't like six very much either, but.

[Chris Ryan]

But I'd rather watch it than Halloween.

[Sean Fennessy]

Resurrection. Is that 6?

[Chris Ryan]

No, resurrection is the reality show. Correct. 4 is.

[Sean Fennessy]

Resurrection is after H2O. Okay, so what is 6?

[Chris Ryan]

6 is the one where Paul Rub plays Tommy and they're like, syringing Halloween films.

[Amanda Davis]

Oh, okay.

[Sean Fennessy]

Sorry.

[Chris Ryan]

They're taking, like, the syringe of juice out of Michael Myers.

[Sean Fennessy]

I remember.

[Chris Ryan]

I think that's six, but what's it called? Called the Curse.

[Sean Fennessy]

Halloween. The Curse of Michael Myers. Curse of Michael Myers. Damn. Also quite bad. It is. There's like a five consecutive bad movie run for the Halloween films.

[Chris Ryan]

Well, it depends on how you feel about Season of the Witch.

[Sean Fennessy]

No, I wouldn't include that. I think four is okay. I think five, six, seven, and eight are bad. I know you like H2O. I know some people really like H2O. I don't care for H2O. I want to touch you. Friday the 13th part eight, Jason takes Manhattan. It's a no from me, dog.

[Chris Ryan]

Yes, but it comes at the end of a very fertile run for the Friday the 13th project.

[Amanda Davis]

Yeah, what happens in those?

[Chris Ryan]

Well, there's a telekinetic young girl.

[Amanda Davis]

Oh, sure.

[Chris Ryan]

Who attacks Jason. Great.

[Amanda Davis]

Speaking.

[Sean Fennessy]

Kind of Amanda vibes on that girl.

[Chris Ryan]

Women empowerment.

[Sean Fennessy]

That's right. Yeah. Yeah. Center her. Don't center Jason.

[Amanda Davis]

Yeah.

[Sean Fennessy]

Fletch lives. I don't think I've seen it.

[Amanda Davis]

I don't think I have either.

[Sean Fennessy]

I don't think so.

[Chris Ryan]

Okay.

[Sean Fennessy]

I don't remember ever seeing it. Should I see it?

[Amanda Davis]

I don't know. I haven't, so I can't recommend it.

[Sean Fennessy]

The Fly two.

[Amanda Davis]

Okay. All right.

[Sean Fennessy]

Not ideal.

[Chris Ryan]

The package.

[Sean Fennessy]

Yeah, I like that movie. That's Gene Hackman and Anne Archer.

[Chris Ryan]

It's Andrew Davis, Right?

[Sean Fennessy]

Andrew Davis directed, and he is investigating someone being murdered. It's a little bit of a confusing.

[Chris Ryan]

It's like a spy story, too, right?

[Sean Fennessy]

Is it J.T. walsh who's murdered in the first few minutes?

[Chris Ryan]

Damn. Spoiler.

[Sean Fennessy]

Well, I mean, it happens when JT.

[Chris Ryan]

Goes out in a movie, you know, it's a good one.

[Sean Fennessy]

Yeah, I agree. If JT Walsh gets shot in the head, A plus film.

[Amanda Davis]

No one has said the word Steel Magnolias at any point.

[Sean Fennessy]

Wow. Wow.

[Amanda Davis]

I mean, we said diabetes, but we didn't say Steel Magnitude.

[Chris Ryan]

I made a joke about it. I was. I was like. I was wondering if you were going to take it.

[Amanda Davis]

Are you a fan of this? No, not really.

[Sean Fennessy]

You've said that before. I find that interesting. For all your Julia fandom and your. Your quest for empowerment, sure.

[Amanda Davis]

Yeah. Everyone's really interested in beauty. Yeah, everyone's really empowered in that one.

[Sean Fennessy]

Yeah.

[Chris Ryan]

Who's is it? Tom Skerrett is the dad in this.

[Amanda Davis]

Sounds right.

[Chris Ryan]

And Sam Shepard is Dolly Parton's boyfriend.

[Amanda Davis]

Yeah. I mean, who's kind of a bad.

[Chris Ryan]

Guy, but then really shows up at the end.

[Sean Fennessy]

Sure.

[Amanda Davis]

Yeah.

[Chris Ryan]

When Shelby doesn't drink her juice.

[Sean Fennessy]

You know, it's a film I haven't seen. Music Box, which is. Stars Jessica Lang. She got a Academy Award nomination for this movie. It's her and Armin Mueller Stahl, and it's about a Hungarian immigrant played by Mueller Stahl, who is accused of being a war criminal. It's directed by Costa Gavras. Directed Z and State of Siege. Plenty of good movies. And it's written by Joe Esterhaus.

[Chris Ryan]

Yeah.

[Amanda Davis]

Okay.

[Sean Fennessy]

Of Basic Instincts.

[Amanda Davis]

I'm aware.

[Sean Fennessy]

Sliver. Perhaps you've heard of him.

[Chris Ryan]

I was going to throw out. Along those same lines is a movie that I watched a bit of and I think I saw when I was younger. But like on cable or something. But I watched a bit of Last Night, which is True Believer, which is a Chris Hansen movie with James woods and Robert Downey Jr. About a defense attorney taking on an unwinnable case. His attempt at the verdict. But it was pretty good what I watched of it. There was one other Morgan Freeman. Lean on Me. That was a huge movie.

[Sean Fennessy]

I loved that movie. Yeah.

[Chris Ryan]

And Harlem Nights. Really awesome. And then Tango and Cash.

[Sean Fennessy]

I can't believe you didn't did this. Maybe it came out in 1990. Did the unbelievable truth come out in 1990 in the U.S. i don't know. The Hal Hartley film. Yeah. It's listed as 89, but its release date might have been 1990. Speaking of long island figures and growing up there.

[Chris Ryan]

So he's selling those on his site?

[Sean Fennessy]

Yeah. The Blu Rays of his films. Yeah. Not all of them though. I think only some of them. Or maybe some of them are sold out. I think I might have bought a couple.

[Chris Ryan]

It sounds like it was more of a 90 movie because it came out. It got to Sundance in 90.

[Amanda Davis]

Okay.

[Sean Fennessy]

A couple of other ones. Jane Campion's sweetie was this year. Brian Yeznah's Society. One of the most amazing body horror movies of all time is this year. See no Evil, Hear no Evil. Another movie that was on cable non stop. Is that the last Prior and Wilder movie? It might be.

[Chris Ryan]

Are you a Blake Edwards guy?

[Sean Fennessy]

Sure.

[Chris Ryan]

Skin Deep.

[Sean Fennessy]

Was that this year?

[Chris Ryan]

Yeah.

[Sean Fennessy]

Okay. John's pretty good. Let it Ride. Incredible gambling comedy with Richard Drey. I wanted to recommend to listeners of the show Notebook on cities and clothes. Are you guys familiar with this?

[Amanda Davis]

No.

[Sean Fennessy]

Also a documentary made by Vim vendors about Yoji Yamamoto and all about Japan and Yohji's history as a fashion designer. Very, very good film. I think that's all I got.

[Chris Ryan]

Should we recap?

[Amanda Davis]

No License to Kill for you from your favorite Bond.

[Chris Ryan]

Honestly, not a Dalton guy at all.

[Amanda Davis]

No. We have this.

[Chris Ryan]

I don't know, but he's really been lost to history. I wonder when that will get that.

[Amanda Davis]

Those reclaimed.

[Sean Fennessy]

Reclaimed pet cemetery.

[Chris Ryan]

There's two Fred Gwyn movies I like this year. Disorganized Crime.

[Sean Fennessy]

Never seen it.

[Chris Ryan]

No.

[Sean Fennessy]

Sea of Love.

[Chris Ryan]

Yeah. I Mean, that's obviously context. I, I up. I up and I took. What did you.

[Sean Fennessy]

You took Field of Dreams. You could have taken Sea of Love.

[Chris Ryan]

Or I took Roadhouse and I could have taken Sea of Love.

[Sean Fennessy]

Up. Yeah. That's rough. What about Dead Calm?

[Chris Ryan]

That's a good one.

[Sean Fennessy]

Seen Dead Calm?

[Amanda Davis]

No.

[Sean Fennessy]

Nicole Kidman is trapped on a boat with her husband Sam Neill and a deranged guy, Billy Zane.

[Amanda Davis]

Yes.

[Sean Fennessy]

Yeah. So incredible film.

[Amanda Davis]

Yeah.

[Sean Fennessy]

Really, really great thriller.

[Chris Ryan]

Sam Neill was only in fucked up movies at this time period.

[Sean Fennessy]

Yes. Jurassic park, probably the most fucked up movie ever made. They fucking invented dinosaurs.

[Chris Ryan]

What was the Wes Craven? No, the John Carpenter. In the Mouth of Madness.

[Sean Fennessy]

Yeah. A plus film, five star class classic. He's also in possession, of course. It's a fuck ton of good movies this year.

[Amanda Davis]

It was great stuff.

[Sean Fennessy]

You guys have any closing thoughts before we wrap?

[Chris Ryan]

I enjoyed myself.

[Sean Fennessy]

Okay, Amanda, you had first pick, so why don't you start off with.

[Amanda Davis]

Okay, so am I reading drama, comedy, action or I'm reading the order of.

[Sean Fennessy]

I mean Live youe Truth.

[Amanda Davis]

In blockbuster, I have one Harry Met Sally an action horror thriller. Ghostbusters 2. In comedy, Heathers in drama, born on the 4th of July. In sequel, I believe I have National Lampoon's Christmas Vacation. Though the camera is blocking it. I don't know what's in round five.

[Chris Ryan]

Mermaid.

[Amanda Davis]

Little Mermaid. In Oscar nominee and in. Am I. Am I missing something?

[Chris Ryan]

Beverly. Beverly Hills.

[Amanda Davis]

Well, that's wild card. I just didn't know whether I covered everything.

[Sean Fennessy]

You did. Everything's gonna be okay.

[Amanda Davis]

I can't see.

[Sean Fennessy]

You know, you've done a great job. Job.

[Amanda Davis]

Thank you.

[Sean Fennessy]

You're a working mother. Getting through it.

[Chris Ryan]

Yeah.

[Sean Fennessy]

You believe to be heard. You've learned a lot about Master Chief today. Yeah. This has been helpful. Sure.

[Chris Ryan]

In my first pick, I took do the Right Thing in drama. In my second pick, I took Field of Dreams and Oscar nominee Third, I took Dead Poets Society. In blockbuster comedy.

[Amanda Davis]

No, Blockbuster, I took Parenthood.

[Chris Ryan]

Fourth. In comedy, you have Lethal Weapon.

[Amanda Davis]

In sequel, you have two. Yeah, two, sure.

[Sean Fennessy]

It's kind of a nice microcosm of some of our studio issues here.

[Amanda Davis]

Roadhouse in action, horror, thriller. And you have Major League and Wild Cards.

[Chris Ryan]

That's right.

[Amanda Davis]

There you go.

[Sean Fennessy]

Okay. You're gonna have to help me on the bottom as well, Amanda. But in action, in action, horror, thriller, I got Tim Burton's Batman. In sequel, I got Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade. In Oscar nominee, I got Sex, Lies and Videotape. In comedy, I got got say Anything.

[Chris Ryan]

You had Back to the Future Part two in sequel, fabulous. Baker Boys in Drama and Roger and.

[Amanda Davis]

Me in Wild Card.

[Sean Fennessy]

Great. Yeah. Back to the Future, Part two in Blockbuster.

[Chris Ryan]

Sorry.

[Amanda Davis]

Right.

[Chris Ryan]

Well, we. We could. Next time we'll just do it the other way.

[Sean Fennessy]

Next time we will do it with no cameras. We will do. And we won't record it. And no notes. And then we'll just sit here quietly and everyone will say, where's the new draft? And we said we did it for us.

[Chris Ryan]

Great to see you guys. This is a pleasure.

[Sean Fennessy]

So you are leaving for six months. For two weeks. And you're not coming back for two weeks.

[Amanda Davis]

We're gonna miss you.

[Chris Ryan]

I hope that the air traffic controllers are kind of on their. You know.

[Sean Fennessy]

I hope you stay on their best behavior.

[Amanda Davis]

No.

[Chris Ryan]

Get paid. And are happy and safe and fucking.

[Amanda Davis]

Yeah, pay that.

[Chris Ryan]

Seeing all the sight lines.

[Sean Fennessy]

Okay. That was very convincing. What are we doing later this week? Later this week. We have number six on 25 for 25.

[Amanda Davis]

Oh, yeah.

[Sean Fennessy]

How do you feel about that?

[Amanda Davis]

I feel good about it. I gotta do some prep.

[Sean Fennessy]

Yes, I do as well. Not one to be taken lightly is number six, is what I'm saying.

[Amanda Davis]

You wanna guess what it is, Chris?

[Chris Ryan]

Rise of Skywalker.

[Sean Fennessy]

That's it. Thanks to Jack Sanders for his work on this episode. Thanks to CR The Goat. Appreciate you, brother. We'll see you soon. It.