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Sean Fennessy
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Chris Ryan
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Sean Fennessy
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Amanda Dobbin
I'm Amanda Dobbin and this is the.
Sean Fennessy
Big Picture, a conversation show about auctioning. Chris Ryan, cr, the big time auctioneering boy is here with us today. It's January, which means we are auctioning once more on the Big Picture. Hi, Chris.
Chris Ryan
Hi. What's going on?
Sean Fennessy
Not too much. Before we began recording, you said to us, let's talk about Narnia on imax.
Chris Ryan
The only thing I care about.
Sean Fennessy
Huge.
Chris Ryan
Nothing else in news.
Sean Fennessy
We are pivoting away from national politics today on the Big Picture to talk about theatrical distribution. The Netflix Corporation, which famously does not like to put its movies in movie theaters, has acquiesced, reportedly, according to Matt Bellany in Puck and on the Town, to put Greta Gerwig's Narnia adaptation, November 2026, on 1000 iMac screens for at least 22 weeks.
Chris Ryan
Up to a month.
Sean Fennessy
Up to a month until it premieres on the service, I guess, on Christmas Day.
Chris Ryan
Yeah.
Sean Fennessy
Does that all sound right?
Amanda Dobbin
Yeah.
Sean Fennessy
Okay. How do you feel about this?
Amanda Dobbin
Like, I mean, you go, greta, I guess that's cool.
Chris Ryan
Am I detecting a little Narnia cynicism on your part?
Amanda Dobbin
Yeah. Okay. I mean, I read them, you know, there's a lion, there's a witch, there's a wardrobe.
Chris Ryan
There's the three of those things.
Amanda Dobbin
There's a closet.
Sean Fennessy
This is giving. What is her legend?
Amanda Dobbin
You go into the closet to get to the other world.
Chris Ryan
Yeah.
Amanda Dobbin
And it's like all about religion and also.
Chris Ryan
It's about religion and. Yeah.
Amanda Dobbin
And. But it's. There are no, like political ramifications. I don't really remember.
Sean Fennessy
Let me ask you a question.
Chris Ryan
Yeah.
Sean Fennessy
Do you fear God?
Chris Ryan
Yeah, I guess so. Yeah, I guess so. He seems pretty mad at us right now.
Sean Fennessy
He does, he does. Things aren't going well. I thought this was an interesting thing that happened in Matt's coverage of this story that has been going on for a while. He has consistently pointed to, I think, the most saber rattling, but smartest thing about this, which is what is the knockdown effect of this? It's pretty cool that a big spectacle directed by one of the great living directors under the age of 50 gets to put a movie in movie theaters for a long period of time. Especially a movie that's spectacle oriented.
Amanda Dobbin
You turn 40 and you're immediately just bumped into the under the age of 50 category. What about under the age of 45?
Sean Fennessy
That's not really a delineation anyone cares about.
Chris Ryan
You made us like worship at your feet because you weren't 40 yet for such a long time. And now we have to throw a parade because you're not 50.
Sean Fennessy
I'll tell you what, she's also under 60, so it could be worse.
Amanda Dobbin
Just help us out. But I was saying to bobby, you turn 40 and the switch flips and you gotta do resistance training. But are you doing it?
Chris Ryan
Resistance training?
Amanda Dobbin
How is your mountain training?
Chris Ryan
I haven't done that stuff. I. Let's just say I had a self indulgent Christmas and it's bled to dry. January.
Amanda Dobbin
Are you still subscribed or are you. Do you pause your.
Chris Ryan
I still have a subscription to that. Yeah, talk to me a little bit about the precedent setting stuff. Do you think it really matters? Like, I don't know, will Catherine Bigelow be like, what about my Missile Strike movie?
Sean Fennessy
It's possible, but she has less leverage. If I was Rian Johnson, I'd be pretty fucking pissed about this. You know, he only got to put knives out too. And killing theaters for five years. And that movie clearly would have made, like, $200 million at least if it had played in movie theaters, because a ton of people watched it and loved the original. Yeah. So that was just.
Amanda Dobbin
Okay.
Sean Fennessy
It doesn't matter.
Amanda Dobbin
I know.
Sean Fennessy
Like, that's not really the point. Like, look at the top 10 highest grossing movies of the year.
Amanda Dobbin
Matters to me.
Sean Fennessy
Well, it's nice that you have a standard, but this is a business conversation. No one gives a shit what you think about the movie.
Amanda Dobbin
Great. I'm so glad that we just all put on our CEO hats this morning.
Sean Fennessy
Well, it's relevant to what we do here.
Chris Ryan
Yeah. My CEO hat.
Sean Fennessy
That's you and Phil Knight, two of the great leaders in this space. I don't know what the. I don't know what the precedent is. I don't know. I don't even know what kind of movies Netflix wants to make. This feels like the last kind of a movie that they would want to make, given this new regime. They have new leadership in the movie studio. What is the point of making $300 million movies if you're Netflix, when the same number of people will watch a $20 million movie? You know, Hot, frosty. How many fucking people watch that movie? It was made for Whatever's in the back of my pocket right now. You know, like, it's just like, you.
Chris Ryan
Do hold a lot of cash.
Sean Fennessy
I do. I do. That was not an insult.
Chris Ryan
Yes.
Sean Fennessy
I'm holding roughly 800 grand in my back pocket at the moment, which is why I have back problems, which we learned some years ago.
Chris Ryan
I did.
Sean Fennessy
Don't put your wallet in your back pocket.
Chris Ryan
Yeah.
Sean Fennessy
Because it creates an imbalance in your spine.
Chris Ryan
Don't do that. If you also plan on being on your computer 14 hours a day.
Sean Fennessy
Absolutely. If you are born with this posture, which I came out of the womb holding. Not a good idea to put your wallet in your back pocket. Nevertheless, I just think it's weird that they still make these huge movies.
Amanda Dobbin
Well, when did they agree to do this? I mean, it's like this has been.
Sean Fennessy
It was being negotiated pre Barbie release.
Amanda Dobbin
Right.
Sean Fennessy
And then I think it got. My understanding is. Is it got kind of jet streamed after the mega success.
Chris Ryan
Yeah.
Amanda Dobbin
Right. But I think even that is 18 months ago now.
Sean Fennessy
Yeah.
Amanda Dobbin
Would you agree, like, does 18, like, now would they agree to, like, a giant Greta growing up?
Sean Fennessy
It's a good question.
Amanda Dobbin
You know, I think things have changed so much, even in 18 months.
Chris Ryan
That's a really good point. Yeah, I really thought about that.
Amanda Dobbin
You know, so if you're. But so if you're going to do it, you might as well make money off of it, I guess.
Sean Fennessy
Yeah, I guess they don't. I. In the past, they have not valued that dollar in the same way. And that they've created this insistence on everything being under the umbrella. And like the way that they're going now between wwe, the NFL on Christmas.
Amanda Dobbin
Right.
Sean Fennessy
The Tyson fight, the way that the streamer is programming, it's just big television. It's television and it's must see moments. And so it's not as must see if you're putting a movie in IMAX on a thousand screens externally, I guess.
Amanda Dobbin
Well, but if you're programming television, then you're essentially imagining yourself as the cable company capturing the audience. So you add value to the thing that you make in theaters before you have it exclusively at home.
Sean Fennessy
Right.
Amanda Dobbin
I mean, I agree that that seems like Peacock spend more money to make money. And that has not historically, since the correction, been their. Their M.O. they want to spend less money to make the money that they have because they can.
Sean Fennessy
Yeah.
Amanda Dobbin
But I don't know.
Chris Ryan
Perhaps they know that all the kids on Red Note are talking about how Aslan is snatched, and they just know that that's, like, really viable.
Sean Fennessy
Is Aslan one of the characters from Narnia? Okay.
Chris Ryan
Yeah.
Sean Fennessy
I haven't read the Chronicles of Narnia. I actually was hoping to read it to my daughter.
Amanda Dobbin
That's nice.
Sean Fennessy
Just like an activity. I bought it for her before she was born.
Chris Ryan
So you guys.
Sean Fennessy
But I've never read it.
Chris Ryan
That joke failed on, like, three levels.
Sean Fennessy
Then Aslan, I was like, what Red Note.
Amanda Dobbin
What I was gonna ask you about. Are you gonna get into it?
Chris Ryan
No.
Amanda Dobbin
So this is on. Okay. We're recording in advance, everyone.
Chris Ryan
TikTok has been banned by the Supreme Court.
Amanda Dobbin
Well, has it? Well, we are. When we're recording, it has been. Yeah.
Chris Ryan
But this is up there with Hawk Tua, you know?
Amanda Dobbin
Yeah.
Sean Fennessy
I mean.
Amanda Dobbin
What do you mean?
Sean Fennessy
Well, this is only two days in advance of release, as opposed to six months, four months.
Chris Ryan
Hawk Tua is on Red Note talking about Narnia.
Sean Fennessy
Is that true?
Chris Ryan
I don't know.
Sean Fennessy
Okay, can you explain something to me? What is Red Note?
Amanda Dobbin
Oh, yeah.
Chris Ryan
Red Note is like the Chinese, like, like in China, TikTok. And now all the TikTok people are apparently signing up for RedNote and getting like, you know, they're just like, presidential.
Sean Fennessy
Everyone wants to suckle at the teat of big China. Interesting. Will you be joining Red Note?
Amanda Dobbin
I'm letting go of TikTok. You know, even though I do, I feel like it's going to be saved.
Sean Fennessy
Okay, Last minute saved or a kitten ready to be drowned.
Amanda Dobbin
Relax, okay?
Sean Fennessy
We don't need to save our platforms. It's okay. They can go on.
Amanda Dobbin
We don't either. I'm, you know, I'm letting it go. I'm still on Instagram. Mark Zuckerberg is cozying up to the interests once again. So I guess it'll stick around for a while. And I can keep, you know, if.
Sean Fennessy
Only there were a film about that.
Amanda Dobbin
Knowing how to use reels and that'll be cool.
Sean Fennessy
Do you. Have you ever uploaded anything to reels?
Amanda Dobbin
No, not on purpose.
Sean Fennessy
It's intriguing.
Amanda Dobbin
I don't know.
Sean Fennessy
The Narnia thing, I think if you think about it from the context of the big picture and the movie obsessives, it seems like, oh, what do the precedent mean? Why didn't they do this for other movies? We can have that conversation. If you think about it from the WWE Tyson fight perspective, it's just an event and it's just a standalone thing. And your point about not spending money, it's like they're not spending money on everything below the top 2%, but the top 2%, they're still spending a ton of money on and seems smart. I don't know. Those guys are smart. They know what they're doing. They have completely destroyed the industry that I have built my entire life around. But they have done an amazing job of. Of making it feel like their service is the most essential entertainment commodity in the universe. And congrats, they won.
Amanda Dobbin
Good job to them.
Sean Fennessy
Okay. I mean, that's interesting relative to the auction here, because I wonder how many Netflix movies will be auctioned.
Chris Ryan
You jumped right into the thing that I wanted to talk to you because you have Segway Kings. One of my favorite elements of this is now your triggers. I love all the little rules so that we can actually judge whether the auction was successful or not. Aside from my very equal distribution of funds.
Sean Fennessy
Yeah, I have some issues there as well, which we can talk about. Some. I allocated perhaps too much to certain titles last year.
Chris Ryan
I think there should be probably a penalty at a certain point if, like, you paid 350 for something that made $10 million.
Sean Fennessy
Okay, that's interesting.
Chris Ryan
But we can get to that in the second half of the year. I did notice while going through the list of things that have been announced or at least heavily rumored for this year, how much of it was Netflix and how do we evaluate the box office for something that Is a Netflix film?
Sean Fennessy
Should it be a. Does it go to number one on Netflix? I mean, it's kind of a thing.
Chris Ryan
Okay, but, like, we've seen what's on, like, on that chart, right?
Sean Fennessy
Well, that. That does add an intriguing wrinkle to the kind of movie you might want to auction, I think. You know, a lot of times when we're doing the drafts and the auctions, the feedback is always like, just draft the movie you like the most. And I'm like, we're playing a game. The whole point of this is for it to be a game. The triggers are part of a game. It's not meant to be. Like, we get to say what we actually like in every other episode of the show. So to me, in the gamified respect, trying to choose which Netflix movie will go to number one is a weird game to try to win.
Chris Ryan
Yeah.
Sean Fennessy
So I don't know. I mean, it's a good point that you're making. I don't know that I have any Netflix movies at the top of my auctioning list, with the exception of the one we mentioned at the end of last week's last episode.
Amanda Dobbin
Correct.
Sean Fennessy
The Noel Baumbach movie.
Amanda Dobbin
Right. I need them to rename that movie because I can't remember the name of it.
Sean Fennessy
I'm getting confused with Jay Feely, the field goal kicker. And Jay Kelly is just too close to Jay Feely.
Chris Ryan
Would Bomback get a month in IMAX if he had a Jay Feely biography?
Sean Fennessy
Not the worst idea in the world for Bombach to do a sports dramedy. If you've never heard of movie auction before, I'll give you a brief outline of the rules, and then we'll talk about how we did last year with our two sets of auctions. So each bidder gets $1,000 of auction fake money to bid on these movies. Each film on our slate must have a 2025 release date or an almost certain expectation of release in this calendar year. Our slates must total five movies for this episode, five movies for the next episode we do in July. Bidders open with each new title in a snake fashion will determine the order shortly. You have 30 seconds to make a new bid before the movie goes to the current bid holder, which we never hold to. Movies that were previously auctioned off last year are once again eligible for future auctions.
Amanda Dobbin
We have a clock in six studio now.
Sean Fennessy
Oh, we do.
Amanda Dobbin
I mean, is it too, like, how can we reset it? Can we have Jack running it? Hi, Jack.
Chris Ryan
I would press the on button.
Amanda Dobbin
Oh, I'VE I've heard of it. Do you think you can do it? Can you set it up?
Sean Fennessy
I'm coming right now.
Chris Ryan
Yeah. Yeah.
Amanda Dobbin
Come on in. Let's do it. This is podcasting, baby.
Bob Wagner
Putting the clock on is going to really reveal to you how lenient I have been over the years with the clock.
Chris Ryan
I know.
Amanda Dobbin
Can we put the clock in a way that everyone can see it? You know what I mean?
Sean Fennessy
Okay. Okay.
Amanda Dobbin
This is exciting.
Sean Fennessy
Well, let's talk about those category triggers that Chris cited. For anybody who doesn't remember from last year, we did add a bunch to determine a winner and make yourself eligible for a win. Now, I don't know how we determine the winner after we go through the triggers, but the triggers that I set were at least two of your 10 films must gross $100 million domestically. At least one film must receive at least two Oscar nominations. Now, we haven't yet heard the Oscar nominations, but you could safely assume. Pretty good idea on a few of these. At least one of your films must hit an 85 meta score on Metacritic. I did note that only 13 films hit that number in the US in 2023. I don't know how many did it in 2024. We could look that up. And then no more than two sequels. And I want to give us credit for what we did last time because last year was a very sequel heavy year. In fact, a lot of original stuff got pushed out of the slate in 2024, and we did pretty well by that. Everyone abided by the sequel rule. Now, do you want to individually recap what we did? Who wants to go first? Chris, do you want to go first?
Chris Ryan
Sure. I did dune part two. I spent $243 on that. It crossed $100 million at the box office. It was a sequel. We live in time for $375 and did zilch.
Sean Fennessy
Wait, did. Did you see that movie?
Chris Ryan
No. Do you have to see the movie if you watch it?
Sean Fennessy
No. I'm just curious because I want to talk to someone about it.
Chris Ryan
But that should also be a penalty if you don't. If you actually wind up not seeing it.
Amanda Dobbin
Give us the Andrew garfield revival of 2024 into 2025.
Sean Fennessy
A remarkable press tour.
Chris Ryan
Yes.
Sean Fennessy
Concluding in the David Yurman pendant on the Golden Globes.
Chris Ryan
Yes, I'm well aware of that part.
Amanda Dobbin
Has that been replaying a lot in your. In your home?
Chris Ryan
Not. Not on my algorithm. Yeah.
Amanda Dobbin
Yeah.
Chris Ryan
Gladiator 2. 380 bucks. Crossed $100 million at the box office. It was a Sequel, Speak no Evil for a dollar, did nothing. Horizon and American Solar Saga for a dollar. The number one movie on Netflix for a while.
Sean Fennessy
That is true.
Chris Ryan
Then I had in the second auction the instigators for 130 bucks. It was an Apple movie and did nothing. A real pain. $200, two Academy Award nominations, and 86 Metacritic scores.
Sean Fennessy
Congratulations to you. That was a good pick. I don't remember you taking that.
Chris Ryan
Yeah. Blink twice for 50 bucks. Heretic for $300. Could get a Hugh Grant nomination out of that, I guess, but probably not. And the order for 320, which is.
Amanda Dobbin
The most Chris Ryan thing, but I.
Chris Ryan
Actually love that movie. So.
Amanda Dobbin
Yeah, you're speaking your truths.
Sean Fennessy
I feel like with a different studio, that movie would have made more money at the box office too. Everybody I talked to who's seen the Order really liked it. Obviously, it's a lot of guys who are like, I'm into movies like the Order, but they did all like the Order.
Amanda Dobbin
I'm gonna put. I put it on my list at.
Sean Fennessy
Some point to watch at some point.
Amanda Dobbin
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Chris Ryan
That could get dangerous if it' bunch of guys being like, I really like the Order.
Sean Fennessy
That is dangerous. In fact, I think that's what that film is about. Okay, you want me to go?
Amanda Dobbin
I'll go.
Sean Fennessy
Okay, Amanda, you go.
Amanda Dobbin
Okay. So first I got challengers for $150, which in some ways is the fucking deal of the century. And also met none of the things, including the Metacritic score, which I like, I object. You know, Like, I just. I think that's fucked up and critics need to look inside themselves.
Chris Ryan
It could still get two Oscar nominations if it gets screenplay and score right.
Sean Fennessy
It could.
Amanda Dobbin
That is tr. Okay, so that would be nice. I got Maxine for 75 bucks, which was a sequel and I guess was funny to everyone. And I saw Maxine. So, yeah, you know what? That's where they filmed a lot of Psycho.
Sean Fennessy
Where.
Amanda Dobbin
How did you navigate giant Bates Motel sign? Anyway, got blitzed for $385, which is. Did nothing and bad on its own. And also I think I could have rebought it for less. So listen, like, when you fuck up, you fuck up. And I fucked up. Twisters for 350 bucks. Sequel and across $100 million box office. Thank you so much. And then I got the bike riders for $40, which is a film I enjoyed, so that worked out for me. Then conclave for 205 bucks.
Sean Fennessy
Good. Get.
Amanda Dobbin
We'll get nominations. Thanks so much. Trap for $3. Hundred forty five. Listen, everyone else, let me down.
Sean Fennessy
The Metacritic score on this movie is not good.
Amanda Dobbin
Well, I think that this could have made money, but people just don't have this. Their strength of their convictions were an open mind, and that's their loss.
Sean Fennessy
Interesting how you framed that.
Amanda Dobbin
Wolf's. Everyone let me down. And everyone let John Watts down, according to him, I guess. Yeah, I got.
Sean Fennessy
We should just do a pod where you just go down the box office receipts for every single film release.
Chris Ryan
Yeah.
Amanda Dobbin
Place where the blame lies.
Bob Wagner
Yeah, that's Amanda's YouTube response to the syllabi. You know, she just does that straight into camera.
Sean Fennessy
Miklosiansko is the roundup. You let me down.
Amanda Dobbin
Hungary let me down queer for $225. I let myself down on this in the. Just because I haven't seen it yet.
Chris Ryan
It also could get Oscar nom.
Amanda Dobbin
It could get an Oscar nom. And listen, I stand by Luca Guadagnino. I enjoy the work of Justin Kuritsky. I enjoy the work of Daniel Craig. I enjoy Mexico City, though I'm told they didn't actually film there.
Chris Ryan
No, it was filmed in Italy in a. Well, I like.
Amanda Dobbin
Well, I like China Cheetah, too. And then I got baby girl for $5.
Sean Fennessy
Good. That was good. But.
Amanda Dobbin
I mean, that was good, but, like, the critics aren't helping me and the public is slacking on its duty to go see box office sensations like Trap.
Sean Fennessy
Yes. So sadly, you are missing one $100 million domestic earner, and you're also missing an $85 million.
Amanda Dobbin
But, like, I. I don't acknowledge the second one. You know, like, I like. I'm sorry.
Sean Fennessy
Sadly, you must.
Chris Ryan
You don't acknowledge the second one. What?
Amanda Dobbin
I don't acknowledge. Yeah, I just, like, that's actually okay. And I'm creating my own world specifically because. Listen, this is Monday, January 20th. That's allowed now. So.
Sean Fennessy
Okay.
Bob Wagner
By the way, it's 26 movies in 2024 that hit 85 or higher.
Sean Fennessy
26 what?
Bob Wagner
So double read that.
Amanda Dobbin
Read them and I'll just give you a yes or no of whether they deserve it.
Sean Fennessy
Oh, dear God.
Chris Ryan
Oh, my God.
Bob Wagner
Okay, okay. Daughters. The Wild Robot.
Amanda Dobbin
I haven't seen them.
Bob Wagner
Close your eyes.
Amanda Dobbin
What?
Bob Wagner
The Seed of the Sacred Fig. Dahomey. A real pain. I saw the TV glow.
Amanda Dobbin
No, wait. Keep going. Challengers. Doesn't get it in. A real pain does. Okay, keep going.
Chris Ryan
Why are you so mad at a real.
Amanda Dobbin
I'm not. The critics.
Bob Wagner
Flo. Good one. Pictures of ghosts, hard truths about dry grasses, the brutalist Green Border Sugar Cane no Other Land La Chimera Anora Totem Soundtrack to Akuta Ryuichi Sakamoto Opus Nickel Boy is here.
Chris Ryan
Here.
Bob Wagner
Coming in at number four, Sean.
Sean Fennessy
No, not that. Here. Boss DeVos is here. Not Robertson. Mekis is here.
Bob Wagner
All we imagine is light inside the yellow cocoon shell. And do not expect too much from the end of the world.
Sean Fennessy
Okay, now, the thing is, the challenge of this category specifically, or this trigger, I should say, is that very few of those movies got a wide release, which means that they had fewer reviews. And in fact, they're basically mostly art house films, international films and documentaries. So this trigger means you need to.
Chris Ryan
Identify a small art house film.
Sean Fennessy
No, no, no, no, no. To me, it's about identifying the film that will kind of triangulate a lot of these things. Like, I'll give you an example. I picked a Nora after it won the Palme d'or, having a strong feeling that it would do that. And in fact, it has a 91 Metacritic score. So we did our auction.
Amanda Dobbin
I watched Challengers having, like, a core belief system, and most of the world agreed with it.
Sean Fennessy
The way that you talk is why the Crusades happened. I just want you to know that, like this. This intractability around your own bodies.
Chris Ryan
Edward Norton in Kingdom of Heaven just.
Sean Fennessy
Being like, okay, here's my lineup. For the first auction, I got hitman for $275. Film simply did not open in a box office. I selected Mickey 17 for $3. Not released. Now, should there be a penalty for that? Is also a question we've talked about in the past. A Mad Max Saga for $375. That is a sequel. Megalopolis for $345. Nothing there. Nosferatu for $1. Now, that may turn out to be the steal of the draft if it gets to $100 million domestic, which it might. I think it's at 86 million right now, so it's possible it gets to 100.
Amanda Dobbin
Okay, so now I can't go see it in theaters because you don't want to give it.
Sean Fennessy
Fuck. Well, I already hit all the triggers. It doesn't matter, because I did hit the other triggers. But the second auction is where I.
Amanda Dobbin
Hit a. Yeah, but at what cost?
Sean Fennessy
Well, this isn't my best lineup. I'm going to share it with you right now. Anora for $410.91.
Chris Ryan
So did we do the auction after con last year?
Sean Fennessy
We did. Oh, yeah, because cons in May, we do the auction in, like, the first Week of July.
Chris Ryan
Oh, I see.
Sean Fennessy
So this is. That's something to think about as we go to the next one, too, is sort of like, do we get more aggressive in the second half of the year? In addition to that, Moana 2 I got for $1, which in a way is a good grab because it was. It was a sequel. But across 100 million, quite easily. Emilia Perez for $150.
Amanda Dobbin
Yeah.
Sean Fennessy
I'd not seen the film at the time. It was acclaimed out of Cannes. It will garner two Oscar nominations, so it helps me really not a movie I love, so that's tough. The Wild Robot, which did cross $100 million domestic and as Bob mentioned, also had an 85 Metacritic score. And then Night Bitch for $321, which is a movie that I have affection for, but did not hit any of the categories.
Amanda Dobbin
I've thought about it since I saw it. Yeah.
Sean Fennessy
Yeah. I mean, it's too bad we missed out on a chance to really dig into that one. That would have been an interesting discussion for us, especially at this stage of your life. So I did hit the triggers. Chris did hit the triggers. Amanda did not. Where do we go from here?
Chris Ryan
What do you mean, where do we go from here?
Sean Fennessy
Do we post it on Red Note? Like, what's the move?
Chris Ryan
Oh, like, what's the award?
Sean Fennessy
Yeah, who wins?
Chris Ryan
That's a really great question. Should we sweeten it? Should we throw like a loser buys dinner kind of thing? Not this year, because you didn't know. You may have drafted differently.
Amanda Dobbin
It's fine. I can buy you dinner. I'm a Working woman, which is the.
Sean Fennessy
Sequel to the Jason Statham film coming in March.
Chris Ryan
Working Woman just going around buying guys dinner, saying thank you for your podcast. I've gotten so much joy out of the watch, I just have to take you to get a steak.
Sean Fennessy
Oh, I've seen men make that offer.
Amanda Dobbin
To you in the past.
Sean Fennessy
A lot of guys looking longingly into your eyes. Buying dinner, I think, is a good. Is a good way to go. Now, do we get to choose where we eat?
Chris Ryan
Yes, the winners do.
Amanda Dobbin
Okay. Yeah, well, that's. Yeah. I mean, I. I think that's only fair.
Chris Ryan
Yeah.
Sean Fennessy
Where would you like to go? Jumbo's Clown Room.
Chris Ryan
Do they serve food there?
Sean Fennessy
In a manner of speaking, yeah. I think they do. Actually. I've not been to Jumbo's before.
Chris Ryan
Yeah.
Sean Fennessy
Have you been?
Chris Ryan
No.
Amanda Dobbin
Close to your house?
Chris Ryan
Yeah, it's nearby.
Sean Fennessy
You know what would be a nice gesture?
Chris Ryan
Cheetahs is right by my house too, but I think that's closed.
Sean Fennessy
Cheetahs, you and I almost walked into a couple times in the past. We never actually did it where it was real. Like, do you think the guy vams delight in there? You know, like just trawling around Hollywood Boulevard. Cheetahs is still open.
Chris Ryan
I can't tell.
Sean Fennessy
Okay.
Chris Ryan
Yeah, it's. The building is still there and the sign is still there.
Sean Fennessy
You've been in there.
Amanda Dobbin
No, I haven't.
Sean Fennessy
Okay.
Amanda Dobbin
Parked in front of it many times for Cavell. I went to therapy in a building between Homestead many times.
Sean Fennessy
So has many men. Many, many have entered that therapy building.
Amanda Dobbin
Those little. One of those, like apartment looking buildings is actually like an office building. And I. My therapist's office was there for a long time. That's cool.
Sean Fennessy
You know, doing double duty, day shift, night shift next door.
Amanda Dobbin
You know, like the. The way therapy works is that it's like the. That office is the boundary. You know, what happens. And outside.
Chris Ryan
Oh. Have you ever seen your therapist at, like, sprouts or anything?
Amanda Dobbin
No.
Sean Fennessy
I know that there's a discussion often with a therapist, sort of like, if you see me, you may acknowledge me or you may not. This is your choice.
Amanda Dobbin
Right, right, right. My New York therapist once asked if we ran into each other at the beach if she would be comfortable. If I would be comfortable with her saying hello and introducing herself to Zach and I. She's awesome. Sylvia, I love you forever. So I said yes, but we had to ask.
Chris Ryan
She come up and be like, I know all about you.
Amanda Dobbin
We never saw her.
Chris Ryan
This one. Am I right?
Sean Fennessy
Perhaps in David Lynch's honor, we should have dinner at Bob's Big Boy.
Chris Ryan
That's okay. You know what? I thought about going last night.
Sean Fennessy
Too much of a scene.
Chris Ryan
Yeah, I bet.
Sean Fennessy
Too much of a scene. There was like. There was a lot of flowers and things that were there for him. Yeah.
Chris Ryan
Yeah.
Sean Fennessy
A lot of people left stuff behind us online.
Amanda Dobbin
I'm sorry. My instinct is to close it.
Sean Fennessy
It's like an intimidation tactic, you know, it's like when a sheriff walks into a saloon and she's doing it. Yeah, exactly.
Chris Ryan
It's the water bottle that pushed me over the edge.
Sean Fennessy
Okay, so I guess we'll post this online and people will say whether Chris or I won.
Amanda Dobbin
Yeah, I mean, there are some basic.
Sean Fennessy
I don't know what else we could do. We could let Bob decide who had a better slate. Well, that's subjective.
Amanda Dobbin
Are there any, like, who met more of the markers?
Chris Ryan
You know, dude, Sean and I equally meet markers.
Sean Fennessy
I think I have two films that crossed 85. But that wasn't a parameter to have more necessary.
Amanda Dobbin
What's your second 85?
Sean Fennessy
The wild robot.
Amanda Dobbin
Oh, that's right.
Sean Fennessy
The Wild Robot to me is the kind of movie that you're like, not because it's animated. I'm not making a bit out of it. Like, that's kind of what I'm getting at where it's like, that's a movie that could potentially hit. In all likelihood, it's going to get animated feature and it could get score as well. And so it could have two Oscar nominations, $100 million at the box office, plus an 85 Metacritic score. That's very difficult to accomplish. I would wager a guess that is it possible this is the only movie that will do that?
Chris Ryan
Okay.
Sean Fennessy
You know what I'm saying?
Chris Ryan
Right. I'm thinking about this differently now. You've changed my psychology.
Sean Fennessy
Okay.
Chris Ryan
Yeah, that's great.
Sean Fennessy
That was part of the idea with the triggers. These are getting too bland.
Chris Ryan
Well, it's also just like, let's not repeat anticipated movies. Let's. Let's try to hit these. All right. Let's try this.
Sean Fennessy
Okay. Bobby, do you want to help us set the Snake draft auctioning order?
Bob Wagner
Yes, of course. Less consequential here. Who actually comes out on top, but still matters? Amanda, we will have you nominate first.
Amanda Dobbin
Okay.
Sean Fennessy
Intriguing.
Bob Wagner
And nominating second. Oh, we got Amanda again. Stay winning.
Amanda Dobbin
It's my year will be.
Sean Fennessy
Chris, do you feel like it is your year?
Amanda Dobbin
You know, Sean, I really don't.
Sean Fennessy
You don't? You don't think so?
Amanda Dobbin
I had one day back at work before things really went chaotic again. So listen, it's. I mean, I'm not complaining. I like, I seriously am not. We're incredibly lucky. But like, I mean, so far the evidence would suggest what would have to.
Sean Fennessy
Happen for it to be your year.
Chris Ryan
She'D have to be red pilled.
Sean Fennessy
Yeah. You're really into the ninja creamy Reddit at that point.
Amanda Dobbin
Yeah, I mean, I just like, what. What am I supposed to make it besides ice cream? You know, like, I, I looked, but.
Chris Ryan
I think it's like what you're putting into the ice cream. It's like, how much protein powder can you put in there?
Amanda Dobbin
You really want one? Why?
Bob Wagner
I'm. I like ice cream. I like the experience of eating ice cream. But I'm really sensitive to too sweet, like too much sweets. I just have kind of like a weak stomach for that.
Amanda Dobbin
Not from a macro boys perspective.
Bob Wagner
Well, it is from a macro boys perspective because then I could kind of control better for what actually goes into it, you know?
Amanda Dobbin
Okay. Yeah. But when I read it, it's just like they're putting in 45 different powders. Yeah. And.
Bob Wagner
Yeah. And as we heard.
Amanda Dobbin
And at some point I'm like, is maybe the sugar is just better for me than this concoction of whatever.
Chris Ryan
Of whey?
Bob Wagner
I think it depends on what you're putting into it. I think a lot of people are going like, Greek yogurt as well.
Amanda Dobbin
You know? It's true. And some people are, like, using it for fruit and. And you can make sorbets and stuff. Sorbets are not for Amanda.
Bob Wagner
But anyway, all the macro boys are like, I eat 72 ounces of egg whites every day. And I'm like, I don't think.
Chris Ryan
Because you're supposed to have a gram of protein for every pound of your body weight.
Bob Wagner
Correct.
Amanda Dobbin
If you're.
Bob Wagner
And I do that, like.
Sean Fennessy
Yes.
Amanda Dobbin
If you're like, if you're trying to get gains.
Chris Ryan
If you just do. If you're just being a woman.
Amanda Dobbin
Yeah. Thank you. I mean, but it's more. I'll tell you, there's another supposed to get.
Chris Ryan
Is it two thirds of your body weight?
Bob Wagner
Yeah. I think it depends on what your fitness goals are, but that's usually a.
Amanda Dobbin
Good benchmark, which is a lot.
Chris Ryan
I know, I know. That's why I'm half chicken right now.
Amanda Dobbin
Yeah. I mean, I had to throw out a lot of Greek yogurt last week.
Chris Ryan
So you're up first.
Amanda Dobbin
Oh, that's right. You know what? I think I'm going to keep it pure and simple and build a sense of community here at the table until we take it all away. And I'm just going to do Mission impossible. Dead reckoning. 100 bucks.
Sean Fennessy
I think that's the right.
Amanda Dobbin
Can we start the clock or should.
Chris Ryan
We just, like, look at it and get a sense of it? I have. I have a. I have a timer here. I could just get my phone and we'll do it.
Sean Fennessy
You're promoting both Nike and Apple today. It's amazing how you've been really. Two of the biggest corporations in America somehow working in unison on your person.
Chris Ryan
Thanks for pointing it out. I didn't know now, so when I came to Alice's second birthday, I believe.
Amanda Dobbin
It was, well, the slack is running 100 bucks.
Sean Fennessy
He was about to tell a touching story of being involved in my life.
Amanda Dobbin
According to the clock. So do I get it?
Sean Fennessy
No, you don't.
Chris Ryan
Hold on.
Amanda Dobbin
Okay, well, I'm saying, you guys, that.
Chris Ryan
This is not how it's been working 120.
Amanda Dobbin
Okay. So Alice's second birthday, 125.
Chris Ryan
And I wore Nikes with Adidas socks. And Mallory made fun of me mercilessly for like 20 minutes. And I actually did broadcast to her that it wasn't really that fun for me to hear from her.
Sean Fennessy
You said it was hurtful.
Chris Ryan
Yeah, I was just like, it's like 100 degrees. We're at a child's birthday party. I grabbed a pair of socks and a different pair of sneakers like, nobody cares. And she's like, that is a huge foul. What? You broke a cardinal rule of streetwear.
Sean Fennessy
The auction is 125 right now, by the way.
Chris Ryan
Okay. And I was like. I got very self conscious about it, but then as I walked out the door today, I was like, man, I am a little Niked up. Yeah.
Sean Fennessy
I mean, is there something wrong with it?
Chris Ryan
No, no, no.
Sean Fennessy
Are you a slave to capitalism? You are.
Chris Ryan
Well, I got this hat because Tommy Fleetwood were wore it. I thought it would.
Sean Fennessy
The golfer Tommy Fleetwood.
Amanda Dobbin
Oh, okay.
Chris Ryan
Who's it? We're at 125 to you.
Amanda Dobbin
No, at 130 for me. 150 Nikes don't fit my feet.
Sean Fennessy
Sounds like a you problem.
Amanda Dobbin
I mean, it is a me problem, but I'm just putting it out there for people who might feel excluded by this, you know, like a big Nike. This kind of circles back to our trying to purchase.
Sean Fennessy
How do you know if you have beautiful feet?
Amanda Dobbin
Yeah, but I mean this. I at least know that it's like a toe bat. What did you say? 155?
Sean Fennessy
I'll say 200.
Amanda Dobbin
Oh, okay. 205. It's like. Yeah, it's about the width or the narrowness of the. And the toe bat. And I think there's also like a slant issue. I mean, I don't know, it's just not working for me.
Chris Ryan
I'm sorry.
Sean Fennessy
It's too bad.
Amanda Dobbin
I like Asics and I like. I recently have gotten into New Balances with the rest of my family.
Sean Fennessy
Can I tell you a story?
Amanda Dobbin
Yeah.
Sean Fennessy
Just yesterday acquired my first pair of Reeboks in my entire life.
Amanda Dobbin
Oh, I like that.
Sean Fennessy
Just the classic all white tennis shoe.
Amanda Dobbin
Yeah, those are cool.
Chris Ryan
The Club Club 80.
Sean Fennessy
Yes, exactly.
Chris Ryan
Whatever they're called.
Amanda Dobbin
I've been thinking about a. What's basically like Euro Reeboks, which are called Autrys. You guys know about those?
Sean Fennessy
215.
Chris Ryan
Yeah, I don't. Okay. No, I'm. I'm very interested.
Amanda Dobbin
Yeah. Okay. They're like big In France. Oh. But they're, like, quoting. You know, it's like France's idea of America.
Chris Ryan
Oh, yeah, sure.
Amanda Dobbin
Although I think they are American. I. I don't really know. I just. This is what I do for fun.
Sean Fennessy
Sort of The Amelia Perez.
Chris Ryan
215, 250.
Amanda Dobbin
Oh, okay.
Sean Fennessy
250.
Chris Ryan
Yeah.
Sean Fennessy
Where are you at on Mission Impossible? Dead Reckoning. I was like, the final one.
Chris Ryan
I'm very excited for it, as I am for any mission Impossible film. McQuarrie coming out and saying they screened a bit of it, and the guy at the theater that they screened it at almost had a heart attack because of one of the stunts. Got me a little bit more hype.
Sean Fennessy
Okay. Just a little.
Chris Ryan
I'm worried that too much of it will be like saying goodbye to Ethan and all he's given us. And it's just not really why I go to those movies.
Amanda Dobbin
Did you say 255 yet?
Sean Fennessy
No.
Amanda Dobbin
255.
Sean Fennessy
Do you think that they should replace Ethan with Barack Obama in the next film? Seems like he wants to get kind of more in that world.
Amanda Dobbin
Yeah. And he might have some time.
Sean Fennessy
A lot of rumors about what's. What's going to happen.
Amanda Dobbin
You didn't realize.
Sean Fennessy
I didn't know that's who you were talking about.
Amanda Dobbin
Yeah.
Sean Fennessy
Because of the potential drama going on there.
Chris Ryan
Why are you not saying Michelle Obama?
Amanda Dobbin
Well, I. It's like I. You know, I don't know when we're allowed to, because I'm not reporting, you know, I know things.
Sean Fennessy
You're reporting on the marriage of the former president of the United States, on the big picture.
Amanda Dobbin
Well, at some point, there's just. There are legal issues, you know, like.
Chris Ryan
You think that Michelle Obama, after everything that she's gone through over the last.
Sean Fennessy
12 years, would sue you to 75.
Chris Ryan
Okay.
Amanda Dobbin
I hope not.
Chris Ryan
Yeah, I hope not.
Amanda Dobbin
You know, and I'm also trying to respect their privacy. I'm just saying, if they're trying to.
Sean Fennessy
Respect their privacy, give me a fucking break.
Amanda Dobbin
Well, all I would say. And again, this is like we're podcasting in the future. 280. By the way, if I had an announcement of that caliber to make, I counterintuitively might make it right before the inauguration in order to divert attention from someone.
Sean Fennessy
Yeah.
Chris Ryan
Okay.
Sean Fennessy
Just personally, little do you know, it will appear as a stinger at the end of the final reckoning, is the announcement of the dissolution of their marriage after many years and two beautiful children. Yeah. We're in a great place right now. So we're at 2,80.
Amanda Dobbin
80.
Sean Fennessy
Where are you at?
Chris Ryan
I'll go 3 just to see where you guys are at with this.
Sean Fennessy
This is an interesting one. Right? This one's going to cross 100 million? Almost certainly.
Chris Ryan
Yeah.
Sean Fennessy
It could get a couple below the line nominations. You could see visual effects sound, stuff like that for Mission Impossible movies. It has happened before, so it's got some value in a couple different categories. Plus we love these movies. This is one of the big events of the movie year for the three of us. So I'll say 315.
Chris Ryan
Okay.
Amanda Dobbin
Say 330.
Chris Ryan
I would not describe this as a. A sequel rich landscape this year.
Sean Fennessy
Mm hmm.
Chris Ryan
So that's worth keeping in mind.
Sean Fennessy
You don't need a sequel.
Chris Ryan
I know. I'm just saying if you were gonna.
Sean Fennessy
Get one, there's a ceiling, there's a cat. Yeah. What are we at? 330.
Amanda Dobbin
Mm.
Sean Fennessy
Did you say that?
Amanda Dobbin
I did.
Sean Fennessy
I'll say 340.
Amanda Dobbin
Okay.
Sean Fennessy
I'm interested in this film. I'd like to see it.
Amanda Dobbin
Yeah, me too.
Chris Ryan
Has the, has the box office been lightly declining on these films?
Amanda Dobbin
Yes.
Chris Ryan
Fallout.
Sean Fennessy
Bit of a parabola.
Chris Ryan
Charts.
Sean Fennessy
Because the last one was down relative to the previous film, which was. Which was I think a bit up.
Amanda Dobbin
But it was also the last one was like a week or two before Barbenheimer.
Chris Ryan
Oh, that's right. And so got kicked off imax.
Amanda Dobbin
Right, it got kicked off imax. And also I think the promo tour really got subsumed by the Barbenheimer marketing, which was just going full all summer long.
Sean Fennessy
Mission Impossible Fallout in America was. Was the highest grossing Mission Impossible film.
Chris Ryan
Okay, so good.
Sean Fennessy
The Dead Reckoning was the sixth highest.
Chris Ryan
So they initially presented this as. What number are we at?
Amanda Dobbin
330?
Chris Ryan
343. 40, 40.
Sean Fennessy
Yeah, I said 340.
Amanda Dobbin
345.
Sean Fennessy
350. 355.
Chris Ryan
I just want to say that they presented this as Dead Reckoning Part one. And now it's just the final Reckoning, Right, Correct.
Sean Fennessy
Okay, but that's because the same reason that one of the other signature sequels of 2025 will be Wicked Colon for good, not Wicked Part 2. This is something in the culture.
Amanda Dobbin
Wait, didn't we watch Dead Reckoning?
Chris Ryan
Yeah, already Part one. And so it was called Part one, then they just called it Dead Reckoning and now it's the Final reckoning.
Amanda Dobbin
Correct. Oh, okay.
Sean Fennessy
They took the part one off the title retroactively.
Chris Ryan
I'm out.
Amanda Dobbin
Right, Right. What is it? What did you do?
Sean Fennessy
3. I say 350.
Bob Wagner
355.
Amanda Dobbin
You have 360, 365, 370.
Sean Fennessy
This is not a parlor game. I. I want this movie. I'm just saying sometimes we play a game, you know, like, you do this, you know, 3, 375, 383.
Amanda Dobbin
I mean, we just.
Sean Fennessy
Should we just like, settle on a number?
Amanda Dobbin
Yeah, you can have it really, at 390. Yeah. Because you know what?
Sean Fennessy
That's really nice.
Amanda Dobbin
You believe in the whole weird AI plot line more than I do. And you believe in underwater stunts more than I do. And you believe in. What's it called?
Sean Fennessy
The cruciform key.
Amanda Dobbin
There we go. Yeah, there you go.
Sean Fennessy
Two keys interlock to create one key.
Amanda Dobbin
Yeah.
Chris Ryan
Are they adding anyone to the mixture?
Amanda Dobbin
How all submarines are run and also.
Chris Ryan
All AI, you know, cruciform keys.
Amanda Dobbin
Gemini is run by two keys, and I have one of them.
Sean Fennessy
I don't really know if there's any. Someone named Mariella Gariga has been added to the cast. She plays Marie. Oh. Hannah Waddingham and Ted Lasso. She's kind of a fit.
Chris Ryan
That's cool.
Amanda Dobbin
Okay.
Sean Fennessy
She's kind of a fit for this.
Chris Ryan
Is it my turn to nominate?
Amanda Dobbin
Yeah, you go second.
Sean Fennessy
Yes. You're up.
Chris Ryan
Chris Sinners.
Sean Fennessy
Interesting.
Chris Ryan
Michael B. Jordan playing twin vampires.
Sean Fennessy
Are they vampires or vampire hunters?
Chris Ryan
I don't know. I don't care. It's going to be incredible. Ryan Coogler is back with an original film about vamps in the South.
Sean Fennessy
Yep.
Chris Ryan
And I'm going to.
Sean Fennessy
Well, I have a question for you. Are you sure that this is not a Dracula story? Because you famously said on our Nosferatu episode in On Vampires out on Dracula.
Chris Ryan
That you're going to see my passion for this project. And that's. That's because I stand by what I said on the Nosferatu podcast.
Sean Fennessy
Okay. Which is. But what if the. What if at the end of the movie, they're like, the reason we got vampires in this town is because of.
Chris Ryan
If it's at the movie. That's great. If the movie is about a Dracula looking for real estate in Europe, then I'm going to be fucking pissed. He has twin real estate agents.
Sean Fennessy
Okay?
Chris Ryan
Now I have freaking A rule. I don't like it when an actor plays twins. I don't like it.
Sean Fennessy
Why is that?
Chris Ryan
I just think it's stupid. I think there's plenty, like, have brothers, have non identical twins. The idea of an actor, and it's always like, over the shoulder, body double. And then it's like, oh, hey. And then there will be, like, one cool like, we're hugging, but it's like, how much CGI did you have to do? Just make it a different guy.
Amanda Dobbin
Have you seen Nancy Myers, the Parent Trap yet?
Chris Ryan
No.
Amanda Dobbin
Starring Lindsay Lohan.
Chris Ryan
I know who's in there. Yeah. And aren't they making it again?
Amanda Dobbin
I just. I thought that it's a sequel.
Chris Ryan
Freaky Friday. Are they making again? What? Are they making again?
Amanda Dobbin
Yeah.
Sean Fennessy
Freakier Friday.
Amanda Dobbin
Freakier Friday.
Sean Fennessy
That is a 2025 release.
Chris Ryan
Well, Jamie Lee Curtis win her third consecutive Oscar for that film. A run unlike we've ever seen.
Sean Fennessy
Shades of Katharine Hepburn.
Chris Ryan
If JLC wins three straight Oscars, will you stop doing awards? Watch on the big picture.
Sean Fennessy
I will cancel the show.
Amanda Dobbin
Three straight. Right. Who won?
Chris Ryan
It would be everything everywhere.
Amanda Dobbin
And then last year, somebody else won.
Sean Fennessy
I was Emily Blunt for her performance in Oppenheimer.
Amanda Dobbin
Yeah.
Sean Fennessy
I forget who owns the Brutalist.
Amanda Dobbin
That's not the same character at all. Right. Because it complicates it. Right.
Sean Fennessy
You haven't seen the movie.
Amanda Dobbin
I know.
Sean Fennessy
You'll have to see my fault.
Chris Ryan
So for Sinners, I'm going to open the bidding at $180.
Amanda Dobbin
Oh, wow. Okay.
Sean Fennessy
190. I'm very interested in this movie.
Chris Ryan
I'm very interested in it, too.
Amanda Dobbin
That's cool.
Sean Fennessy
I think it's gonna be like a real program.
Amanda Dobbin
But I'm not gonna get in the mix with you.
Sean Fennessy
Like, one thing I like about what I've seen so far is it's. It's. It's just a genre movie.
Chris Ryan
Yeah.
Sean Fennessy
It's not like this is a movie about America and the tale we tell each other. No. This is a movie about stabbing vampires in the eye.
Chris Ryan
Yeah.
Sean Fennessy
Like, that's what I want this movie to be. I want it to be Michael G. Michael B. Jordan, Wrecking Shop.
Chris Ryan
Yeah.
Sean Fennessy
On some vampires.
Chris Ryan
And that's why I'm bidding 210.
Sean Fennessy
220. You're out on this.
Amanda Dobbin
I'm not out on it, but I don't know if I'm gonna, like, get in the mix with you guys. I'm excited. I mean, one thing I'll say just. Just to. For the. In the interest of discussion, while you guys are bidding. So Michael B. Jordan playing two different characters. You know, I. Some performances are incredible, and. And some performances sometimes feel a little miscast. So if there are two, is he going to be cast correctly for both of them? I'm just putting.
Chris Ryan
But where Michael B. Jordan falls.
Amanda Dobbin
Yeah.
Chris Ryan
Haley Steinfeld will carry him.
Amanda Dobbin
Okay. There we go.
Chris Ryan
What a run for her.
Sean Fennessy
You know, I. I think this the press tour for this rolling right after her marriage. Super bowl victory. Yes. Will be very, very interesting to me. I think I'm picking the Bills to win the super bowl, by the way.
Chris Ryan
Oh, this is being recorded before Bill's Ravens.
Sean Fennessy
Before Bill's Ravens.
Chris Ryan
Oh, Bills nation thanks you for jinxing them.
Sean Fennessy
Something going on with.
Amanda Dobbin
Are they getting married?
Sean Fennessy
They're engaged. Yeah.
Amanda Dobbin
Oh, congratulations.
Chris Ryan
Yeah. 220.
Amanda Dobbin
Is that.
Sean Fennessy
We're at 220. Yeah.
Chris Ryan
I'll do two.
Amanda Dobbin
I'm just gonna go for this.
Sean Fennessy
240.
Amanda Dobbin
Haley Steinfeld, Josh Allen, engaged now.
Chris Ryan
Interesting conversation is, do we think this is going to make a hundred million dollars?
Amanda Dobbin
They got engaged in November.
Chris Ryan
A big genre movie like this, I can't imagine it crossing the Metacritic. No.
Amanda Dobbin
Now I'm seeing the engagement photo. No. So there's like a whole for oneself over here. What?
Chris Ryan
He proposed to her and like.
Amanda Dobbin
Yeah, with like 4,000 candles. Like a seaside vista and like a rose arch.
Chris Ryan
Wish I did that.
Sean Fennessy
Me too. It looks nice.
Chris Ryan
Yeah.
Amanda Dobbin
Okay.
Chris Ryan
Wish someone loved me like that.
Sean Fennessy
Seriously, they seem like nice people. I don't really have any notes on that.
Amanda Dobbin
This is like. It's just like a little, I don't know, like photo, you know, professional photos. Like, I get nervous.
Sean Fennessy
I know. No one's ever done a professional photo op for their engagement. This is incredible.
Amanda Dobbin
What?
Sean Fennessy
This is so common now. This is.
Amanda Dobbin
Everybody does this now, but I'm like, this is just very. This would make me.
Chris Ryan
I said 250.
Sean Fennessy
Yep.
Amanda Dobbin
This would make me anxious.
Sean Fennessy
260.
Chris Ryan
270.
Sean Fennessy
I don't think it's gonna cross 100 million. I think it's just gonna be a sick movie.
Chris Ryan
Yeah.
Sean Fennessy
It's gonna do okay.
Chris Ryan
But we don't. We, you know, for better or for worse, we are not high fiving each other because it's a sick movie. Right. You've kind of. Maybe your triggers have kind of put us in a place.
Sean Fennessy
For better or worse, I've destroyed my closest friendships by making everything a game.
Chris Ryan
It is what it is.
Sean Fennessy
Should we share? There are a series of linguistic phrases that men and only men use. And these phrases indicate an insecure and weak soul. And if you hear me using them or you hear Chris using them, stack us in the.
Amanda Dobbin
Slap us in the face coming from.
Sean Fennessy
It's a. It's a theory. I've been working on one of those phrases.
Amanda Dobbin
It's like, it. This isn't like the photo things with like the lines like, this isn't an Internet thing. This is.
Sean Fennessy
No, it's something I came up with. Yeah, Well, I just was listening to someone talk on a podcast today, and this person. It was not you. This person kept leaning on these crutches. I have crutches, too. We all have crutches. One of the crutches is, be that as it may. My take is no woman has ever said those words in that order before. That's something men say when they don't know what they want to say next.
Amanda Dobbin
But they want to say it as a segue. Usually when you're trying to not talk about what I'm talking about anymore.
Sean Fennessy
Be that as it may, that's not really in my quiver, I don't think.
Amanda Dobbin
Okay.
Chris Ryan
Oh, so you're saying you've looked into the abyss.
Amanda Dobbin
I was saying that in a hospital.
Chris Ryan
And you're stopping yourself talking about the theory.
Sean Fennessy
It came up in part because Bob, on a pre recording, we were saying, I. I'm. Chris can have sinners, by the way, just so we can continue this conversation. Be that as a may, I heard someone say earlier today, Bob said, it is what it is on the call. Now, obviously, that phrase lives on forever because of the Irishman, but that is a phrase that doesn't mean anything at.
Chris Ryan
The end of the day.
Amanda Dobbin
Okay.
Sean Fennessy
With that being said is a phrase that if you say with that being said, comma, and then something. I don't trust you. You're not to be trusted.
Amanda Dobbin
Okay. But so, like, I just. You guys are like. Was this at the club meeting that I was literally.
Sean Fennessy
No, you were getting tea.
Amanda Dobbin
So this happens when, like, I can't find the hot water in the building.
Sean Fennessy
There's vigorous exchange of ideas between two men who love language. That is what is happening, okay. That words are our currency and that every day we pay the piper by using words.
Chris Ryan
The lion, the witch, and the wardrobe to each other.
Amanda Dobbin
You are really passionate about this.
Sean Fennessy
Be that as it may, Amanda.
Chris Ryan
Yeah.
Amanda Dobbin
And I just. I didn't know when this happened, you know? Like, I. Okay.
Sean Fennessy
It's fresh in my mind. There's a series.
Amanda Dobbin
I support you guys on all of these things.
Sean Fennessy
There's a series of phrases that we can add to the list over time.
Amanda Dobbin
Okay.
Sean Fennessy
As they come across. I have a lot of crutches.
Amanda Dobbin
Sure.
Sean Fennessy
Well, here's a crutch of mine. Your mileage may vary. I say that all the time.
Chris Ryan
Yeah.
Sean Fennessy
That one is helpful for me because it lets me say, like, hey, I like this movie. You might not. You're a fucking idiot. But your mileage may vary. It allows me to kind of flow in the conversation, be that as it may, is nothing.
Chris Ryan
Yeah.
Amanda Dobbin
Okay.
Sean Fennessy
That doesn't mean anything.
Amanda Dobbin
Yes.
Sean Fennessy
You agree?
Amanda Dobbin
Absolutely.
Sean Fennessy
Thank you for coming on the journey with me.
Amanda Dobbin
Okay.
Sean Fennessy
I love words.
Chris Ryan
It's your turn to nominate a film I think I got Sinners for That.
Amanda Dobbin
Was really, really intense. And I, like. I don't know why.
Sean Fennessy
I'm glad. I'm glad you felt intense.
Amanda Dobbin
It's like I was just focused on, like, the flower arch, and you were just starting yelling.
Sean Fennessy
That language he used. Be that I said mate to no, my fire.
Bob Wagner
I just want to say, in my defense, it is. What it is is different. That actually means something. Like that actually means, you know, you have to accept the reality of your situation.
Amanda Dobbin
But that's exactly.
Sean Fennessy
Would Be that. Be that. You know that all those phrases are. They're, they're. They're just. They're like cotton candy. Like, they don't have any depth. They don't mean anything. They just are like, you could just say, accept it. This is the way that it is. It is what it is. You know, these. I don't know. What are they? Neologisms? Is that what they're called? Like, they're.
Chris Ryan
You know, I think also we watch too many.
Sean Fennessy
No, that's. Well, it is what it is.
Chris Ryan
Is it too many sports press conferences? Oh, I feel like our exposure to sports press conferences has gone up about 200.
Amanda Dobbin
I mean, I think that you could just start with. Stop with we watch too many sports press conferences. Which is.
Chris Ryan
I just. I do.
Amanda Dobbin
That's true.
Chris Ryan
I watch Nick Sirianni talk. I need injury updates.
Amanda Dobbin
Oh, my God.
Bob Wagner
Be that as it may, you got to know who's playing for the Eagles, right?
Chris Ryan
Yeah.
Sean Fennessy
What's the best time of day to get a deal? All day with Jack in the box's all day. Big deal.
Chris Ryan
Meal.
Sean Fennessy
You get to choose from four entrees, like the supreme croissant and five tasty sides, plus a drink starting at $5. So hurry in or take your time. You've got all day at Jack. Every bite's a big deal. My next proposal, I'll throw out highest to lowest.
Chris Ryan
Is this a sequel?
Sean Fennessy
It's not a sequel.
Chris Ryan
Even though it's got highest to lowest.
Sean Fennessy
Nope. It's the numeral 2 in the spike Lee sense of naming films, this is Spike's new movie, a remake, reportedly of the Kurosawa movie High and Low. High and Low stars Denzel Washington and Ice Spice. And Ice Spice, that's correct.
Chris Ryan
And Jeffrey Wright.
Sean Fennessy
And Jeffrey Wright.
Chris Ryan
And A$AP Rocky.
Amanda Dobbin
Yeah.
Sean Fennessy
And A$AP Rocky. I'm wondering, is A$AP Rocky the kidnapper?
Chris Ryan
I don't know. Ice Spice could be a kidnapper.
Sean Fennessy
Maybe together. Or is Ice Spice the kidnape?
Chris Ryan
You know, in the story, an industrialist.
Sean Fennessy
His child is kidnapped, but accidentally his chauffeur's child is kidnapped.
Chris Ryan
And then it's like I have to decide whether or not my chauffeur's child's life is worth what they want. Right. It's a great movie. It's one of the best movies ever made. I'm very excited for Spike Lee to be back in the director's chair working with Denzel Lashley.
Sean Fennessy
So here's the thing about this movie. An apple and a 24co production.
Amanda Dobbin
Right?
Chris Ryan
What does that mean?
Sean Fennessy
Will this movie come out in movie theaters? I'm just. I'll put it on the table for 75 bucks.
Amanda Dobbin
Okay.
Sean Fennessy
Denzel and a Spike movie is an event. It's only happened a few times. Everything's happened inside. Man. He got game. Mo better Mo better Blues.
Amanda Dobbin
Malcolm X.
Sean Fennessy
So this is a big deal.
Chris Ryan
Any word on this one? Any vibes?
Sean Fennessy
None that I can report.
Chris Ryan
Okay.
Sean Fennessy
I would love to love it and I would love for there to be a year of Spike. I think that would be overdue. Never won best Director. This is a thriller, so it's not likely necessarily. But the original film has big themes.
Chris Ryan
So you're doing 75.
Sean Fennessy
So I'll do $75.
Chris Ryan
I'll do 90.
Amanda Dobbin
I'll do 100.
Sean Fennessy
Okay. I'll do 115. Now, could it be an Oscar movie? Could it be. Probably not a Metacritic movie. Spiked pretty divisive historically, especially in the last 15 years. Hasn't had a ton of movies that probably crossed that threshold. Hasn't made a movie since the Vietnam Netflix film, right?
Amanda Dobbin
Yeah.
Sean Fennessy
Da 5 bloods.
Chris Ryan
Any docs since then?
Sean Fennessy
I don't think so.
Chris Ryan
Wow. I don't think he's made a Klansman's after Defy Bloods.
Sean Fennessy
It is before. Yeah. BlacKkKlansman's 2018. I think the five bloods was 2020.
Chris Ryan
Okay.
Sean Fennessy
And I don't think he's made a film since then. So. Am I forgetting something? I'm not right?
Amanda Dobbin
No, I just. I'm looking it up.
Sean Fennessy
So I have it at 115. I don't know if it's going to be hit any triggers?
Chris Ryan
125.
Sean Fennessy
Okay. I'll go 130.
Amanda Dobbin
I'll go 140.
Sean Fennessy
150.
Chris Ryan
165.
Sean Fennessy
I think it's nice on the first movie for each person to throw out something that we all want to see.
Chris Ryan
Yeah, I agree with you.
Sean Fennessy
You know, and then we can get a little more arcane with our choices.
Amanda Dobbin
170.
Sean Fennessy
I go 175. I hope this is good.
Chris Ryan
190.
Sean Fennessy
Do you have a, like, like a lesser loved Spike Lee movie that is of interest to you?
Chris Ryan
I mean, I, I weirdly kind of liked Girl six.
Sean Fennessy
Well, that's the one that is the most lost.
Chris Ryan
Yeah.
Sean Fennessy
Not on Blu Ray, I don't think. It doesn't stream anywhere. No one's. He never talks about it. I haven't seen it in forever. That's an interesting one though. I watched get on the Bus recently. Great movie. Really interesting movie that felt very urgent politically in a way that we don't really have anything.
Chris Ryan
What's the World War II one called?
Amanda Dobbin
Battle of.
Sean Fennessy
Santa Ana. Yeah. Yeah.
Amanda Dobbin
Miracle at Santa Miracle.
Chris Ryan
Yeah, it's been a while. I think I only saw that when it first came out.
Sean Fennessy
175.
Bob Wagner
Chris has 190.
Chris Ryan
I have 190.
Sean Fennessy
I'll go 200. That's my cap. If you want to go past it, it's yours.
Chris Ryan
I'll go 205.
Amanda Dobbin
Okay, great.
Chris Ryan
I could have had 201, I guess, but I don't need four bucks. We all know how I do.
Sean Fennessy
You big tipper.
Amanda Dobbin
Oh my gosh.
Chris Ryan
I don't want to talk about that.
Sean Fennessy
Because you don't believe in it like Mr. Pink?
Chris Ryan
Well, no, but I would. I just. Yeah, I believe in tipping significantly.
Sean Fennessy
Yeah.
Chris Ryan
I think that there are some places where we've instituted iPad tipping that aren't necessary.
Sean Fennessy
Aha.
Chris Ryan
But I still tip.
Sean Fennessy
I always. I do. I try to do.
Amanda Dobbin
I try to do as well. Yeah.
Sean Fennessy
But I do agree.
Chris Ryan
I also never really carry cash. So I understand the necessity of the. The added thing.
Amanda Dobbin
Right. Yeah.
Sean Fennessy
Interesting. You want to speak on tipping?
Amanda Dobbin
I try to tip well whenever possible.
Chris Ryan
Yeah, I try to tip well whenever possible.
Sean Fennessy
Possible.
Amanda Dobbin
When would it be not possible? That's just.
Sean Fennessy
Well, that's a fact.
Amanda Dobbin
Yeah.
Chris Ryan
When I'm at Cheetahs.
Sean Fennessy
Do I do I do. I recommend suggest another movie we do in Snake. Right?
Bob Wagner
Yeah, we could. I mean, we don't have to. You could just go back and order it because it doesn't really matter as much in terms of power play, but okay.
Sean Fennessy
I'm putting 28 years later on the board. 100 bucks. 200 bucks, man, it doesn't care.
Chris Ryan
200 bucks.
Amanda Dobbin
Well, it's not that I don't care. It's just. He's suddenly. You guys are just, you know.
Sean Fennessy
Yeah.
Amanda Dobbin
Going for it.
Sean Fennessy
Boys night out. Boys night out.
Chris Ryan
Do you think you'll see this film in the theater?
Amanda Dobbin
Yeah. Okay.
Sean Fennessy
She pledged that she would watch this.
Amanda Dobbin
I'm a working woman, you know.
Chris Ryan
Oh, you haven't seen 28 Days Later? I'm a working woman. Is that what you said?
Sean Fennessy
It's a good bit.
Amanda Dobbin
It's a good tagline, you know?
Sean Fennessy
It's a good tagline. I'll go from 200.
Chris Ryan
Does that happen during the NFL draft? I'll try. I'll try.
Sean Fennessy
I'll go from 200 to 300.
Amanda Dobbin
Wow. Okay.
Sean Fennessy
Because I liked how you went up 100. So I'm going up 100. This is the third film in the 28 series.
Chris Ryan
It's gonna make 100 million bucks.
Sean Fennessy
Boy, I think that they did a hell of a job with that trailer and got people really interested in it. I think they said it's the highest viewed trailer in Sony history or something. Or the highest viewed trailer of a horror movie. Some weird stuff. Whoa.
Chris Ryan
I'm looking. 19 million views in a month just on one hosting platform on the Sony Pictures Entertainment channel.
Amanda Dobbin
This is how I wanted to spend my time. When I woke up this morning, I was like, let's talk about trailer stream numbers on different platforms.
Sean Fennessy
What was the alternative? Watching the inauguration. Come on, pep up.
Chris Ryan
You gotta stay here. Let's go. Turn that frown upside down. Fighting for civilization. What are you doing?
Sean Fennessy
Ray Fines is in this film.
Amanda Dobbin
Listen, I said that I would see it in theaters.
Chris Ryan
200 bucks.
Sean Fennessy
No, I said 300. Oh, you said 200.
Chris Ryan
Well, you know, I mean.
Sean Fennessy
Wow, you went into. Into penny pinching.
Chris Ryan
I'll do 310. Let's see.
Amanda Dobbin
Let's see.
Sean Fennessy
320.
Chris Ryan
What's going on? 3. 330.
Sean Fennessy
3, 40.
Chris Ryan
So this is you, huh? This is what you.
Sean Fennessy
I gave you two in a row.
Chris Ryan
Well, I'm not mad at him. I'm not mad at what I got. I'm trying. I got. I gotta start.
Amanda Dobbin
I'm hydrating.
Chris Ryan
I gotta start putting up some Metacritic numbers, and I gotta start putting up some box office numbers. We're not sure about Sinners. Like, I want to believe in a world where sinners gets to 100. I want to believe in a world where Denzel gets best actor for highest to lowest. It's gonna be really funny watching, like, Demi Moore being like. And the winner for best actor is Denzel Washington in highest to lowest.
Sean Fennessy
It's in play.
Chris Ryan
Yeah.
Sean Fennessy
That exact future is in play. I'll say 225.
Chris Ryan
44.
Bob Wagner
You already have it. You already have 340?
Chris Ryan
Yeah, I have 340 discount.
Amanda Dobbin
I'll say.
Sean Fennessy
I'll take it for 20 bucks.
Chris Ryan
So you're at 340?
Sean Fennessy
340.
Chris Ryan
I'll do 350.
Sean Fennessy
So I've got the final reckoning at 390. This puts me in an interesting position. I'll say 355.
Chris Ryan
You can have it. And those are your two sequels, huh?
Sean Fennessy
Mm.
Chris Ryan
Original content, Sean. I'll let you have it.
Bob Wagner
Okay, so those are your two sequels for the whole year then?
Chris Ryan
Yeah.
Sean Fennessy
Yes, but they're probably my $200 million grocers.
Bob Wagner
True.
Sean Fennessy
So a tactical effort here. You can wait on the 85 and the Oscar stuff until after the first festival season. Yep, in theory, if we're gaming it out.
Amanda Dobbin
I just googled movies. 20, 25, so that's where I'm going.
Chris Ryan
That's you. You.
Sean Fennessy
You're just looking at movies that are coming in. We did an episode about this about a week ago.
Amanda Dobbin
No, I know, but I don't. You know, I'm trying to think about box office and stuff.
Sean Fennessy
I see.
Amanda Dobbin
Which I only slightly thought about.
Sean Fennessy
My. My budget is now down pretty significantly.
Chris Ryan
Okay, you're down to.
Sean Fennessy
In the 250 range right now.
Chris Ryan
You have 255 left, so.
Sean Fennessy
Okay, Chris, you gotta put one on the board now.
Chris Ryan
Oh, is that. Is it my turn?
Sean Fennessy
Yeah.
Chris Ryan
Okay. I will take. I will take Jurassic World Rebirth.
Sean Fennessy
Wow.
Chris Ryan
Which I actually think is going to rock.
Sean Fennessy
Good Strat.
Chris Ryan
Gareth Evans, director of Rogue One and the creator, starring Scarlett Johansson and Mahershala Ali. Why would they make a bad movie?
Sean Fennessy
Is it a sequel or is it a reboot? This is something we don't know.
Chris Ryan
Well, should we just recap for everybody what happens in the second three Jurassic World movies in the Prattverse?
Sean Fennessy
Yeah. Why don't you start, and I'll follow your lead?
Chris Ryan
So there's a velociraptor named Blue. He's been trained by Chris Pratt's.
Amanda Dobbin
What's his character's name?
Sean Fennessy
Joel. Jim Pratt.
Chris Ryan
Jim Pratt. He's in love with Bryce Dallas Howard. She. She's a really driven woman, though. At one point, he builds himself a house, but she needs him to come back.
Sean Fennessy
Blue, that's in the second one.
Chris Ryan
Then there's, like, a thing where they get in these globes and they roll down the volcano while it's exploding. And at the end, I think the dinosaurs are, like, free to, like, just keep Costa Rica. They're like, we're. We're like. You guys got this. So what happens in Jurassic World Rebirth?
Bob Wagner
I just want to say real quick, it's Gareth Edwards, not Gareth Evans.
Chris Ryan
This is my bad. I always get those guys confused.
Sean Fennessy
Edwards, who made the creator?
Chris Ryan
Yes. And row one and rogue one. I'm gonna bid $100 for this, okay?
Sean Fennessy
I already have two sequels, so if this is a sequel, I can't bid on.
Chris Ryan
It's definitely a sequel, Sean. It's called Jurassic World Colon Rebirth.
Sean Fennessy
But is it a reboot? Like, are any of the characters returning? Is this the same island?
Chris Ryan
The dinosaurs? What are you fucking talking about?
Amanda Dobbin
Yeah, but is it, like. Is it blue?
Sean Fennessy
Will Blue be back?
Chris Ryan
Yeah, I don't know, man. I don't know.
Sean Fennessy
Do you think there'll be a title card at the beginning that says, somehow Blue returned?
Chris Ryan
So is that what we're calling a sequel now? Is, like, only if, like, one raptor makes it through all of the films?
Sean Fennessy
Do you think there's some narrative connected?
Chris Ryan
Definitely. Sequels to the original trilogy.
Sean Fennessy
Well, is it all originated around the island that the industrialists built in the original film? Because the Jurassic World trilogy is connected to the original trilogy. They're all canon together. But now are we saying there's a whole other universe where there's dinosaurs on this planet?
Chris Ryan
A standalone sequel to Jurassic World Dominion, according to Wikipedia.
Sean Fennessy
There you go.
Amanda Dobbin
Okay, well. But what happens in it?
Chris Ryan
Five years after the events of Jurassic World Dominion, the planet's environment has shown itself to be mainly inhospitable to dinosaurs. The ones that are left live in remote equatorial regions with conditions similar to those in which they were formally abundant. Zora Bennett, a covert operative, is hired to work with a paleontologist named Dr. Henry Loomis and team leader Duncan Kincaid on a top secret mission to obtain genetic material from the three largest creatures in the world's tropical biosphere.
Sean Fennessy
There's a character named Dr. Loomis.
Chris Ryan
Yeah, Dr. Henry Loomis. I think that's commercialist from Friday the Halloween.
Amanda Dobbin
Wow.
Chris Ryan
Yeah. Jonathan Bailey. Rupert Friend is in this.
Sean Fennessy
I don't understand. Dr. Loomis is a character in Halloween. Is it spelled the same way?
Chris Ryan
Just like those guys. L, O, N, I, s. That's Dr.
Amanda Dobbin
I know.
Sean Fennessy
You can't do that.
Amanda Dobbin
Don't know what to tell you.
Sean Fennessy
That would be like, this character's name is Freddy Foster Kane. Like, that's not okay.
Amanda Dobbin
All right. Are they living on islands, Equatorial islands? Or how are they.
Chris Ryan
Yeah, I don't think they're like.
Amanda Dobbin
Or is it Godzilla vs Kong thing where they've, like, the inner earth?
Chris Ryan
No, I don't think there's an inner earth.
Amanda Dobbin
Yeah.
Chris Ryan
I don't know.
Sean Fennessy
Have you even been anything like. Did Chris get this? 7 minutes ago and he was still recapping the film?
Chris Ryan
Yeah, So I got it for 100 bucks.
Sean Fennessy
Yeah.
Amanda Dobbin
Good job.
Sean Fennessy
It's a good get. It's a good get. Do you think it's gonna be good?
Chris Ryan
I do.
Sean Fennessy
I do, too.
Chris Ryan
I do.
Sean Fennessy
I do, too. I definitely wanna remember all the plot details, too, after we see it. Okay. Amanda, you can recommend a movie.
Amanda Dobbin
Okay. I guess I'll. Well, I don't know. Should I just, like, try to out outspend you? You know, wait until you don't have any money left? I don't have any movies.
Chris Ryan
Are you gonna.
Amanda Dobbin
I don't know.
Sean Fennessy
I mean, you very graciously let me have the first film, and now you're talking about kneecapping me. Why don't you worry about, you know, follow your heart. Do something you want to do. It's your year.
Amanda Dobbin
Right, but all the things that I want to do aren't blockbusters or sequels. You can worry about one sequel, which I'm. I just did some Wikipediaing while you guys were having Dinosaur time.
Chris Ryan
Avatar, Fire and Ash.
Amanda Dobbin
Um, no. And I'm just really upset to learn that M3 Gan only made 95 domestic.
Chris Ryan
I bet I will make 100 this time around.
Sean Fennessy
I'm seeing a lot of notes from the fine people who work at the studios that are producing M3GAN. 2.0. Not a prequel.
Amanda Dobbin
Okay.
Sean Fennessy
There's also a reason why there's a three in the M3GAN. Because she's sort of the three series.
Chris Ryan
Oh, they've upgraded her.
Amanda Dobbin
Yeah, well, I. Yeah, that's what I.
Sean Fennessy
But it is a direct sequel.
Amanda Dobbin
Myth three again, you know?
Sean Fennessy
Yeah.
Amanda Dobbin
2.0.
Chris Ryan
Three off the tongue.
Amanda Dobbin
I think 2.0 will probably make $100 million.
Sean Fennessy
But, like, I'm not, you know, not a guarantee. Also, not in now. And not a winter movie, a summer movie.
Amanda Dobbin
Right.
Sean Fennessy
That was a January film.
Chris Ryan
What kind of assurances would you guys need to not let Megan do any child care? Like, what kind of, like, percentage of. Like, this thing won't turn into a homicidal maniac.
Sean Fennessy
I let my daughter hang around you, so.
Chris Ryan
Yeah, I bet Megan's safer than I am.
Sean Fennessy
Yeah, I would. I simply would not go for that.
Chris Ryan
Let a robot raise your child.
Sean Fennessy
Wouldn't go for that. Yeah, it would be helpful until it was harmful, but, yeah, I'm sort of.
Amanda Dobbin
Like, I think that my child, at this point, my older child, anyway, would listen to Megan more than he would listen to me. You know, it's like the.
Sean Fennessy
Well, he would have to. Otherwise he would be vanquished from the surface.
Amanda Dobbin
Right? That's true. But, you know, even before. There's just something about the third party, like.
Sean Fennessy
Very, very true. That's very, very true. Megan. Two point. I mean, I think you should go for it. It's a fun movie. We like the first one.
Amanda Dobbin
Okay, $30.
Sean Fennessy
Great. I can't bid on this one either. It's a sequel.
Amanda Dobbin
Oh, that's right.
Chris Ryan
I'm. Okay.
Amanda Dobbin
There's other sequels, I think.
Sean Fennessy
$30, so you got a chance at a $100 million earner, but you've now knocked one sequel off your list. So you can only do one more over the next nine films that you acquire. Okay, well, isn't this a great game? You can put another film on the board now. Perhaps one of your highfalutin picks.
Amanda Dobbin
Why don't you just let me do what I want?
Sean Fennessy
Okay, Go ahead.
Chris Ryan
There's several Guy Ritchie films that are coming out this week.
Amanda Dobbin
That's really.
Chris Ryan
Did you guys talk about that? I anticipated. I didn't catch that.
Amanda Dobbin
You know, we didn't.
Sean Fennessy
No.
Chris Ryan
In the Gray.
Amanda Dobbin
And then what's the other one?
Sean Fennessy
There's a really. There's an exciting performer in in the Gray. Who is it?
Chris Ryan
In the Gray is.
Sean Fennessy
Oh, it's Cavill.
Chris Ryan
Yeah.
Sean Fennessy
Oh, no, it's Gyllenhaal.
Chris Ryan
Gyllenhaal's in the Gray. And then John Krasinski and Natalie Portman play sibling treasure hunters in the other one that he's got.
Sean Fennessy
John Krasinski and Natalie Portman.
Chris Ryan
Yeah.
Sean Fennessy
Or siblings.
Chris Ryan
Yeah. Fountain of Youth, it's called.
Sean Fennessy
Interesting.
Chris Ryan
And he also has two series coming.
Sean Fennessy
In the Gray revolves around two extraction specialists who have to designate a route of escape for a senior female negotiator. I think that female negotiator is played by aiza Gonzalez. A plus. What are you putting on the board?
Amanda Dobbin
I don't know. This is so fun. Not as fun now that you can't just do what you want, you know?
Sean Fennessy
Yeah.
Amanda Dobbin
Only child over here, I think that you've really like. It's less fun.
Chris Ryan
You can do what you want. And then.
Amanda Dobbin
But then he's just gonna be like, wow, the wild Robot, you know, is not widely released. And also, look at her lashing out.
Sean Fennessy
As the world slips through her fingers, as she thinks of all of the mistakes she's made in this society. Can't help but lash out.
Amanda Dobbin
I haven't made that many mistakes. I just.
Sean Fennessy
Just don't really care about stayed in this country.
Amanda Dobbin
Well, that is true. Yeah.
Chris Ryan
You could have been getting autres straight from the source.
Sean Fennessy
Yeah. You could have been in an equatorial island with the dinosaurs.
Amanda Dobbin
Yes, but they are islands.
Chris Ryan
Jurassic World you're talking about. Yeah, Isla Nublar. And all those islas are islands. I don't know where they've moved them, though. I would imagine that the.
Sean Fennessy
Your Spanish is number one.
Chris Ryan
The number one condition of dinosaurs living on Earth would be. There would be no land bridge. You can't let a dinosaur into like Austin, you know.
Sean Fennessy
That literally happens in the. In the second.
Chris Ryan
In the second one. Right. But never again.
Sean Fennessy
Oh, we're trying to avoid it for sure.
Chris Ryan
We learned our lesson.
Sean Fennessy
And then they made five more Kima on the islas, you know, on those islas. Absolutely.
Amanda Dobbin
F. 100 bucks.
Sean Fennessy
There you go. Good, good.
Amanda Dobbin
Because also I.
Sean Fennessy
Because there you are, you know, you're back. I was waiting for you to come back.
Chris Ryan
That would pay for the, like, roasted nuts budget of one hour of this movie. A hundred dollars.
Sean Fennessy
I'll say.
Chris Ryan
One of the most expensive films ever made. Right.
Amanda Dobbin
But it's also. I don't know, it's currently scheduled for June 27, and so it wouldn't be eligible for the next draft.
Sean Fennessy
No. Oh, oh, right.
Amanda Dobbin
Because anything that's released in the first six months of the year. Yeah. Once it's released, it's not available.
Sean Fennessy
Chris. Very good. That's why one of your strokes of genius was Getting Dune Part 2 last.
Chris Ryan
Year because it was so close to being released, but not released because it.
Sean Fennessy
Would have been not original. Obviously. That my thinking as well.
Chris Ryan
So this is going into imax?
Sean Fennessy
Yes.
Chris Ryan
Will it be wide released otherwise?
Sean Fennessy
Yes.
Chris Ryan
Okay.
Sean Fennessy
Reportedly, I think that they need to make as much money as possible given the size of the budget of this movie. So I think it's going to get 4000 screens, every IMAX screen for. What'll it be? I don't think there is a big July 4th movie this year. Is there a big IMAX July 4th movie?
Chris Ryan
Is it Fantastic Four? Not.
Sean Fennessy
I think the big July 4th movie is the Trey and Matt and Kendrick Lamar movie.
Amanda Dobbin
It's also Jurassic World.
Sean Fennessy
Oh, Jurassic World.
Amanda Dobbin
Congratulations.
Sean Fennessy
Maybe it only has a week. If Jurassic world's getting those IMAXes.
Chris Ryan
Celebrate our independence from dinosaurs.
Amanda Dobbin
Today.
Sean Fennessy
Is Bill Pullman in it?
Chris Ryan
Be that as it may, these dinosaurs shall not tread.
Amanda Dobbin
I do wonder if it'll move because right now you've got 28 years later on June 20th. F1 on 27th, along with Megan 2.0, by the way. And then Jurassic World Rebirth on July 2nd, and then Superman on July 11th. And I assume all of those people want as many big screens as possible.
Sean Fennessy
So I would guess Superman's gonna take over for the until Fantastic Four comes along on July 25th.
Amanda Dobbin
Okay, cool.
Sean Fennessy
Another film coming. But Superman and Fantastic Four, neither of which are sequels. We don't really have to bid on those right now if we don't want to.
Amanda Dobbin
Okay.
Sean Fennessy
But we can. Okay. How much are you putting it up for? You said 100.
Amanda Dobbin
I said 100.
Sean Fennessy
I'll say 150.
Amanda Dobbin
I will say 200.
Sean Fennessy
I'll say 210.
Amanda Dobbin
250. How much money do you have left?
Sean Fennessy
$255.
Amanda Dobbin
Okay, 256. We're done.
Sean Fennessy
Chris, you don't want F1?
Chris Ryan
I'm okay with F1.
Sean Fennessy
What is it about it that you're not interested in?
Chris Ryan
I don't really care about Formula one driving that much. I don't either, and that's a core part of this film.
Amanda Dobbin
But I wouldn't have said that I really cared that much about fighter jets, to be honest. Before I saw Top Gun and Top Gun Maverick.
Chris Ryan
That's an interesting point, Amanda. I guess I always had a soft.
Amanda Dobbin
Spot for fighter pump jets.
Sean Fennessy
I would have said I'm not interested in flesh eating viruses until I saw 28 days later. So look at us now.
Chris Ryan
Okay, so you have F1 and you have Megan 2.0.
Sean Fennessy
Yeah, well, Chris, you have to put something up now.
Chris Ryan
Okay, so I need some. What are we looking at here? I think we need something that will cross 85 or get some Oscar.
Sean Fennessy
Okay, now this is hard to do.
Chris Ryan
I wonder whether sentimental value is a good pick here. I feel like Joachim. Joachim Von Trier's Novon it's just joke.
Sean Fennessy
Joachim Church.
Chris Ryan
Is it all right? Are you sure?
Sean Fennessy
Not lying to you. That being said, you just be that as it made his name.
Chris Ryan
Your mileage may vary on whether the vond is used there.
Sean Fennessy
I think you're thinking of Sio Von Definitely didn't need to rant Theo Vaughn.
Amanda Dobbin
Sentimental value did not know what he looked like.
Sean Fennessy
Theo. Yeah, not a Road rules watcher.
Amanda Dobbin
That's. You are not the first ringer individual who said that to me. So that was startling.
Sean Fennessy
Yeah, that's what he looks like.
Chris Ryan
I think I hit 85 here or I hit a Renata Ryan Best Actress Dom.
Amanda Dobbin
Oh, okay.
Sean Fennessy
Interesting.
Chris Ryan
Also very interested to see Corey Michael Smith, who I Liked so much in Saturday Night.
Sean Fennessy
It was just talking him up about that on the pod that we did about when I had the movie on my list. I'm very excited about this movie.
Chris Ryan
Family drama about two sisters who are forced to deal with their estranged father following the death of their mother. So it's a laugh riot. And Elle Fanning is in it with Corey Michael Smith. I assume Elle Fanning is the sister. I don't know.
Sean Fennessy
I don't know. That's a bit confusing. I assume Stellan Skarsgard is the father. He's in this film.
Amanda Dobbin
Yeah.
Sean Fennessy
He never had a bad day in his life on a film set.
Amanda Dobbin
You know how like, seems that there's another Scandinavian actress, I'm assuming. Listen here without a Wikipedia page who has a character name Agnes. So I assume it's Renatarenseev and Inga IPS daughter Lilias.
Chris Ryan
You nailed it.
Sean Fennessy
Nice, right?
Amanda Dobbin
Thanks so much. As Agnes.
Sean Fennessy
Inga. That's a nice name. That's kind of fallen out of fashion.
Amanda Dobbin
That is a nice name.
Chris Ryan
Obviously. Huge fan of his work, even though I added a middle name for him. But I just feel like the worst person in a world thing got just even bigger and bigger over time where, like, people reference it when they're doing, like their letterbox. Like, oh, my four favorites. Like, that kind of thing.
Sean Fennessy
What are your four favorites?
Chris Ryan
Jurassic World, Dominion.
Amanda Dobbin
I don't know why that makes me laugh. I need to interrupt this just to note that we are recording this on Michelle Obama's birthday and Barack Obama has just posted a happy birthday message.
Chris Ryan
Well, you would. You would.
Amanda Dobbin
Exactly.
Chris Ryan
But you would anyway, like, yeah, right.
Amanda Dobbin
Happy birthday to the love of my life, Michelle Obama.
Chris Ryan
30 bucks.
Amanda Dobbin
So lucky to be able to take on life's adventures with you. Love you.
Chris Ryan
30 bucks for sentimental value. 35, 40, 50.
Amanda Dobbin
55, 60.
Sean Fennessy
It's hard to replicate what happened with the worst person in the world, which is.
Chris Ryan
We liked it a lot. Like what?
Sean Fennessy
No, it just kind of. It elevated out of festival awareness into a kind of mainstream in America because of awards season and the introduction of a great new actress, Trier, who had been making movies for a while, but became more of an international award o'tour who is well known and like, you know, went into the Criterion Collection, you know, nominated for Oscars.
Chris Ryan
Isn't that like. I mean, couldn't you make the argument that that's how, like, Robert Eggers built his career? That's how Wes Anderson built his career. People started getting more and more excited about.
Sean Fennessy
It's a test of this movie Is a test of that.
Chris Ryan
So I'm betting. I'm betting on you.
Sean Fennessy
I like it. I respect it.
Amanda Dobbin
Where is the bidding right now?
Bob Wagner
Sean has it for $60.
Chris Ryan
$70.
Amanda Dobbin
75. $80.
Chris Ryan
$85 dollars.
Amanda Dobbin
90.
Chris Ryan
I mean, I have some money, you know, but not that much. But I gotta. I gotta start getting some. Some quality here.
Sean Fennessy
Quality films. I'm. I'm. I'm good. I'm out.
Chris Ryan
You're at 90.
Amanda Dobbin
How.
Chris Ryan
How passionate are you? 95?
Amanda Dobbin
A hundred?
Chris Ryan
Is there. No. There's no ceiling for you. There's no limit. Like Mark Wahlberg and the Gambler.
Amanda Dobbin
Yeah, that's so true. I'm only. So I only made it like 15 minutes through your podcast or the movie. The podcast. But it was one of those things when I saw that you guys had done it.
Chris Ryan
Yes.
Amanda Dobbin
Brought me real joy, just like on the feed.
Chris Ryan
But then, glad there's one of you.
Amanda Dobbin
And then I was listening, and it was still in the we're taking Mark Wahlberg as an actor seriously portion of the podcast. So I'm looking forward to getting to, like, the Gambler part of the podcast.
Chris Ryan
Let's do $99.
Bob Wagner
Amanda already bet 100.
Chris Ryan
Let's do 110. Let's do 110. I have a good feeling about this.
Amanda Dobbin
Okay. I mean, I just have to decide whether it's what I want to do right now or I have a lot of other movies that I'm very passionate about. The 85. Metacritic is hard.
Chris Ryan
I think he gets it, but I.
Amanda Dobbin
Guess I can do it. I. I mean, I think that's true, but I could also wait and try to do that later on.
Chris Ryan
Those are rookie numbers for Joe.
Sean Fennessy
Joe, the worst person in the world, currently has a 91 score on Metacritic.
Chris Ryan
85 is a high number that you set that at, dog.
Sean Fennessy
It is. That's why I did it. So his previous film, Oslo, August 31st, has an 84.
Chris Ryan
Oslo is great.
Sean Fennessy
Reprise has a 79.
Chris Ryan
Oh, my God. So he lives in. In that era.
Sean Fennessy
Thelma is a 74. And louder than bombs is a 70.
Chris Ryan
He has a.
Amanda Dobbin
You can have it.
Chris Ryan
Kondo, in that.
Sean Fennessy
Oslo, August 31 was not his previous film. It was his first film. Second film.
Chris Ryan
I get it. Okay.
Sean Fennessy
Okay.
Chris Ryan
Four movies now. Sean has two. Amanda has two. Interesting. This is not how that usually works. This is.
Amanda Dobbin
I know. This is also bad podcasting because then we're just going to face off at each other and be kind of spiteful. So don't. So don't bid for a while. So that you can stay in the mix.
Chris Ryan
I know.
Amanda Dobbin
Okay.
Chris Ryan
All right.
Sean Fennessy
I'm so happy to be here with both of you.
Chris Ryan
I'm also. I'm not going to finish my bid here and then not talk for an hour.
Amanda Dobbin
Okay. That's true.
Chris Ryan
Yeah. Also, did you know that Zinn has a rewards program? I just found out about that.
Bob Wagner
Is it called the Passport? Just like J. Crew, the Zen Passport.
Chris Ryan
It says, collect, track and redeem Zinn Rewards.
Sean Fennessy
Okay. I'm gonna put a big, bold, beautiful journey on the board for $50.
Amanda Dobbin
Okay.
Sean Fennessy
This is a new film from Kogonada starring Margot Robbie and Colin Farrell. It's the first film since After Yang. I neglected to mention Columbus on the previous time I discussed it. One of my favorite movies of that year.
Chris Ryan
Did people say, sir, you neglected to mention, or you just remember the neglect?
Sean Fennessy
I just remembered I neglected to mention I prefer Columbus to After Yang. If I have to choose between Coganada films. And this is, as Bob pointed out, a very mysterious logline in this movie. Quite vague. It is coming out in May, so we would not have the opportunity to get it next time around. I'm just deeply intrigued and I want it to be something special. And there's certainly a world where a movie like this gets awards, recognition, or crosses some sort of Metacritic threshold. But I'm just curious about it. I just want to see it and I hope for the best with it. It's what I'm in the business for.
Amanda Dobbin
That's beautiful.
Sean Fennessy
Thank you.
Amanda Dobbin
That's really exciting.
Sean Fennessy
So what did I say? $50 if I have to put a numerical value on my appreciation for the work of art and movies.
Amanda Dobbin
Okay. Sold to Sean for $50.
Sean Fennessy
Amazing.
Amanda Dobbin
Yeah. There you go.
Sean Fennessy
Wonderful. Thank you so much.
Amanda Dobbin
Okay. You're so welcome. Get another.
Sean Fennessy
Put another movie.
Chris Ryan
Just want to throw this out there.
Amanda Dobbin
Yeah.
Chris Ryan
A couple too many movies for my taste have very vague log lines that are like, two people journey through time to.
Amanda Dobbin
Yeah.
Chris Ryan
On an amazing adventure.
Amanda Dobbin
It's like, that's not.
Sean Fennessy
Is the issue not enough dinosaurs in.
Amanda Dobbin
The description Is the big picture's new mission statement is two people journey through.
Chris Ryan
Time on an amazing adventure.
Sean Fennessy
Yeah. Two miscreants.
Chris Ryan
But I wouldn't know that. It's a movie podcast if I heard that. You know what I mean? Like I want to know, is Coconut making a period piece? Is it a sci fi futuristic piece? Is this movie about the Civil War? Which one? Alex Garland's? Abraham Lincoln's, you know?
Sean Fennessy
Well, they're both relevant. I don't agree with you, but there will be a Trailer and marketing materials for this film and we will find out probably within the next eight weeks.
Chris Ryan
Okay.
Sean Fennessy
So I'm not too worried, wouldn't you say? It's a movie. Comes out on May 9th.
Amanda Dobbin
I love to look forward to marketing.
Sean Fennessy
Materials, something we discuss here on the show from time to time.
Amanda Dobbin
We do.
Sean Fennessy
Okay. I have another movie to put out into the world. World. How do we circle the square in this conversation? How about the Phoenician scheme?
Amanda Dobbin
Let's do it.
Chris Ryan
I'm so excited for Michael Cera to join the Wes Anderson Repertory Company. I feel like that's been, that's, that's been something. I, I didn't know I was dreaming, but I was.
Sean Fennessy
This is Wes's new movie, Spy movie. It's an espionage comedy category he's never really pursued before. Although if you look at his first couple of movies, you can see his huge interest in those kinds of stor. Benicio Del Toro, Sarah Bill Murray, Riz Ahmed, Tom Hanks, Benedict Cumberbatch, Scarlett Johansson, Charlotte Gainsbourg, Rupert Friend, Willem Dafoe, Bryan Cranston. It's a ridiculous cast. As per usual. Now he's almost exclusively now working in mega ensemble. Almost all of his movies now have at least 10 notable names.
Amanda Dobbin
Asteroid City has a 76 minute score. I just. This is an abomination.
Bob Wagner
Wake up, people.
Sean Fennessy
Wake up. Wake up.
Bob Wagner
They got to wake up.
Amanda Dobbin
I mean, I agree.
Sean Fennessy
Yeah. I mean, something has obviously happened with him where everybody is like, it's all the same now. We, we, we talked about it when we did the Asteroid City episode. And then I think we all rewatched Asteroid City and liked it even more when we rewatched it. Which is the, which is the case for a lot of his movies where you come to appreciate it more deeply. But this one, like so many, co written with Roman Coppola. I assume it could be a Cannes premiere, could be a fall festival premiere, but it sounds like it'll be out before the year is over. I'll put it on the board for 50 bucks.
Chris Ryan
So tough one here. As you mentioned, Metacritic. Starting to be blind to his charms. Often he'll get a screenplay nom here, an actor supporting actor nom somewhere. But it rarely gets lavish.
Amanda Dobbin
Yeah, it's overlooked.
Chris Ryan
It's hard to imagine the Phoenician scheme making $100 million. But that's, that's okay.
Sean Fennessy
Sometimes you want to just have a good slate.
Chris Ryan
Yeah.
Amanda Dobbin
Yeah.
Sean Fennessy
You know, so this isn't an effort to have a good slate. We can all agree on Wes Anderson and his Greatness.
Amanda Dobbin
Yes. So you $50?
Sean Fennessy
Yeah.
Amanda Dobbin
100.
Sean Fennessy
Chris is out.
Amanda Dobbin
You're out. I mean, you don't have to be.
Chris Ryan
I am. I'm out because I need a specific thing for my fifth to buttress. And I'm also out just because I love hearing you two talk.
Amanda Dobbin
Oh, that's beautiful.
Chris Ryan
I actually don't do people on a journey through time on a magical adventure. I do. What are you talking about?
Sean Fennessy
Do you?
Chris Ryan
Oh, yeah. You guys.
Amanda Dobbin
Sue. What? What do you need? You need a guaranteed Oscar.
Chris Ryan
I think I. I'd like to get into the. The chin scratching critic hype with my next pick.
Amanda Dobbin
Okay.
Sean Fennessy
Yeah, you gotta look for another Von Trier film.
Amanda Dobbin
Yeah. I will say I do think Sean made a good point is that it's a slightly easier to do that in the second half of the year. I agree with you.
Chris Ryan
Yes.
Amanda Dobbin
I'm just trying to share strategy with you so you can have what you want.
Sean Fennessy
This is me breaking my suggestion. Obviously. I could have waited on this.
Amanda Dobbin
No, I know. And this is what I'm thinking. I mean, this could be canned. This could be early asteroid city wise Wes Anderson, a storied resident of Paris.
Sean Fennessy
I don't know if this movie has distribution right now, but the fact that it doesn't means it's definitely not dated. Which means it probably is the second half of the year.
Amanda Dobbin
Yeah.
Sean Fennessy
So that's interesting. It's Indian Paintbrush is the production company, as always with all of Wes's movies. But usually by this point Focus Evers or. Yeah. Or Sonic Pictures Classics or somebody is coming in.
Chris Ryan
Do you think focuses like this one suck?
Sean Fennessy
I hope not. That would be concerning. Although they're probably beating their chest these days with the Nosferatu success. So, you know, how do they level up as a movie studio? Interesting question.
Amanda Dobbin
You don't care a hundred dollars?
Sean Fennessy
I don't really have a lot of money left to work with here.
Amanda Dobbin
Okay.
Sean Fennessy
So there's some challenges in that one.
Amanda Dobbin
And you also have two minutes left to fill.
Sean Fennessy
It appears you have $714 left.
Amanda Dobbin
I can spend whatever I want. Want.
Sean Fennessy
Okay, I'll say 101.
Amanda Dobbin
Okay. I'll say 102. What are we doing? C.R.
Sean Fennessy
You'Re holding on to 315.
Chris Ryan
Yeah, I could say I'm going to do. I'll get in. Can I get involved?
Amanda Dobbin
Sure, why not?
Chris Ryan
Yeah. I'll do 150.
Amanda Dobbin
Okay. I'll do 200.
Chris Ryan
Okay.
Amanda Dobbin
I think I want this. I think I would have brought this to the table.
Sean Fennessy
To the market.
Amanda Dobbin
Yeah. Okay.
Sean Fennessy
I really Love you gotta gussy up the quality of your slate right now, too. I mean, you got F1 and Megan 2.0.
Amanda Dobbin
Okay, no disrespect, but, you know, the work of Joseph Kaczynski means a lot to me and my family. So it's like, chill out.
Chris Ryan
Has not seen Tron yet?
Amanda Dobbin
No. I wonder if he would like it.
Chris Ryan
The new the Kaczynski Tron.
Amanda Dobbin
I'm seriously considering showing him a complete unknown because now he requests Bob Dylan. And the way he pronounces Bob Dylan is very cute.
Sean Fennessy
He and I can talk about Monica Barbaro in that film.
Amanda Dobbin
I mean, I will also join that conversation. I spent a lot of time thinking about how beautiful she looks. But since it's mostly song performances and beautiful people, I think he would respond to that. Sure, he's digging on Bob, but no, the Wes Anderson. How much did I bid?
Sean Fennessy
200.
Amanda Dobbin
200.
Bob Wagner
$200.
Amanda Dobbin
One of my favorite filmmakers. I think we talked about how much we all slept on Asteroid City. Even as we were like, what a revelation.
Sean Fennessy
I mean, it's all the meta boys and girls as well. Clearly.
Amanda Dobbin
And I like espionage movies.
Sean Fennessy
It's yours.
Amanda Dobbin
Comedies.
Chris Ryan
You got it.
Amanda Dobbin
That's very exciting.
Sean Fennessy
Now it's your turn to recommend a movie.
Amanda Dobbin
Oh, great. Okay, so I have Asteroid City. So I have five.
Sean Fennessy
No, I misspoke. It's Chris's turn.
Amanda Dobbin
I forgot.
Sean Fennessy
Chris goes second.
Amanda Dobbin
So.
Chris Ryan
So do we have like a. Are you like, we have to get out of here soon.
Sean Fennessy
No, I'm here with you. I'm feeling connected to you guys.
Chris Ryan
I kind of want to just talk about this movie. I don't know. I can't remember. I don't think you did talk about it. I anticipated, but I'm just going to throw it out there anyway. Running Man.
Amanda Dobbin
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Sean Fennessy
Let's talk about it.
Chris Ryan
Yeah. Do you think this will be good?
Sean Fennessy
Well, I think it's a very cool challenge for the two primary people responsible.
Chris Ryan
For Edgar Wright and Glen Pell.
Sean Fennessy
Edgar Wright and Glen Pell. Because it is a big time movie star part. And it is a big time franchise movie, which is something that Edgar has basically never done. You know, he did do Scott Pilgrim, which was. It was IP in a way, but he's never had such a known property before. Two guys. I love two guys who. Whose stuff I dig.
Chris Ryan
Yeah.
Sean Fennessy
The Running man is not my favorite story.
Chris Ryan
It's not.
Sean Fennessy
It's not my favorite Arnold movie. It's not my favorite Stephen King thing. It isn't a thing that I love. I Do think it was that story and the way that the movie is made is very prescient about the modern entertainment economy.
Chris Ryan
Yeah. I'm curious to see what they do with the Running man now that the Running man is, like, pretty much like what you see when you watch television.
Sean Fennessy
Yeah, yeah.
Chris Ryan
Or look at your phone.
Sean Fennessy
Yeah. It's a little bit like people posting George Carlin clips on social media. You know, you're like, he. He nailed it. He was there. Like, he was. And we. People knew then. Just like when you watched the Running man, you were like, yeah. Okay, this is where we're going.
Chris Ryan
So Coleman Domingo, Josh Brolin, Lee Pace, and Michael. Sarah and Katie O'Brien is a great ensemble.
Sean Fennessy
Incredible. And even the idea of Lee pace and Katie O'Brien as the other, like, warriors go in to fight Glen Powell is such a good idea. It'll be really, really, really well made and slick and stylish and energetic and cool. It's all about the script.
Chris Ryan
I think this is 100 million.
Sean Fennessy
What do you think?
Amanda Dobbin
I don't know about that.
Chris Ryan
I mean, if Twisters. Twisters made how much domestic? It did okay. Did, like, two. Two, 300, right?
Sean Fennessy
Yeah, over 100.
Amanda Dobbin
But twisters is a phenomenon.
Chris Ryan
But I'm saying, like.
Amanda Dobbin
Like a Twister, the film is, like, 10 years later and, like, a touch point for way more people.
Chris Ryan
Right. The Running man is.
Sean Fennessy
Yeah. Just.
Amanda Dobbin
Well, just because of time and.
Chris Ryan
And it's a B. Schwarzenegger movie. Probably. Like, I'm gonna go 100 just to. Just to get us started. And I think that this could. This could be a box office hit maybe.
Sean Fennessy
So it's a November release.
Chris Ryan
Oh, okay. I thought this was a summer release.
Sean Fennessy
It's November. It's an interesting November this year. It comes out on the same day as Predator Badlands.
Amanda Dobbin
Oh, okay.
Sean Fennessy
Dan Trachtenberg's Fall.
Chris Ryan
That's going into theaters.
Sean Fennessy
It's going into theaters. Not a streaming release. Last one.
Amanda Dobbin
No. But, like, sincerely, one of my favorite things is when you reenact Predator movies for me. No, you came in to my office for one of, like, a 2000 Predators.
Chris Ryan
Yeah, it was for the Shane Black one.
Amanda Dobbin
So tell me what?
Chris Ryan
You know that Elle Fanning is in a Predator movie about two sisters running across. I bet. The Badlands.
Amanda Dobbin
Okay.
Chris Ryan
And probably being chased by predators.
Amanda Dobbin
Okay. And Dan Tribe, who's the sister?
Chris Ryan
I don't know. Maybe it's Elle and Dakota. Maybe it's Elle playing twins. I have no idea.
Amanda Dobbin
Okay. It would be fun if it were Dakota.
Chris Ryan
Dan Trachtenberg has made A bunch of really good movies.
Sean Fennessy
I agree. I'm a big fan of his Predator Badlands and the Running man coming out on the same day is incredible. Bros. Smashing slushies together at the movie theater all afternoon situation. The following week is now youw see me 3. The following week is Wicked 4.
Chris Ryan
Where are you on the NYSM experience?
Sean Fennessy
I have loved talking to and hearing Jesse Eisenberg talk about how much he loves making those movies, because he's like, you might think I'm an idiot for saying this, but let me tell you, that character is nothing like the way that I am. And so getting to be that guy, that magician.
Chris Ryan
He's the most charming magician in the world.
Sean Fennessy
Yeah. And he's like, I'm Jesse Eisenberg. Yeah. Made me more excited to go back and look at those movies. The new one's made by Ruben Fleischer, too, who's a director who I have a lot of time for, despite some of his missteps over the years. I love Venom, obviously, and I really love Zombieland, so, you know, we'll see.
Amanda Dobbin
Can I read you the run after Wicked for good?
Chris Ryan
Do I just have this for $100?
Sean Fennessy
You do.
Bob Wagner
It has been, like, six and a half minutes, so, yeah, Bob has to go Zoria 2.
Amanda Dobbin
Five Nights at Freddy's 2. Avatar, Fire and Ash, and then something we're probably overlooking, but Bobby can speak to it. The SpongeBob Movie. Search for SquarePants.
Bob Wagner
Oh, I love some SpongeBob Movie, but I don't think that's the one that I love, though. Hold on.
Chris Ryan
Two sponges traveling across a landscape on a journey through time.
Sean Fennessy
A big, bold, beautiful spongebob.
Amanda Dobbin
Yeah. That made me. You know, that's. I know that the tentpole movies get dated first.
Sean Fennessy
You don't want to be on the SpongeBob episode.
Amanda Dobbin
I think I have seen some SpongeBob from, like, a. In a babysitting context.
Sean Fennessy
Sure. What'd you think?
Bob Wagner
There's a really incredible Nosferatu spongebob episode. That's how I learned about Nosferatu.
Amanda Dobbin
Okay. That's cool.
Sean Fennessy
That's great, actually.
Amanda Dobbin
I like that, and I know it means a lot to Bobby and his community.
Sean Fennessy
Mm.
Amanda Dobbin
So I'm happy for everyone.
Sean Fennessy
Okay. You've gotta put a movie up.
Amanda Dobbin
Oh, okay. I guess so. Yeah.
Chris Ryan
Oh, I got my. I'm done. That's too bad.
Bob Wagner
You also get $215 from Sean's back pocket, though, so big win for you.
Amanda Dobbin
That is nice. Okay.
Sean Fennessy
Got a lot more to spare, so I've got two spots left. You've got two spots left.
Amanda Dobbin
Right.
Sean Fennessy
We've got a combined 720 simoleons.
Amanda Dobbin
Right. But I. You have $205 and I have $514. So I can just buy two movies.
Chris Ryan
That I want if you'd like.
Amanda Dobbin
But that doesn't seem really fun. But, like, do I want to be a real asshole and just take Battle of Backed and Crossed from you?
Chris Ryan
Well, we don't know if it's coming out this year.
Amanda Dobbin
That's true. And I have been being like, I don't know about that.
Sean Fennessy
But like, Battle of Backed and Crossed is not going to cross any of the thresholds.
Chris Ryan
You don't think Leonardo DiCaprio can get a movie over $100 million just on himself.
Amanda Dobbin
I know, but see, like, you're already like, fidgeting because you look really upset.
Sean Fennessy
Well, no, I know, I know.
Amanda Dobbin
I see the narrative now. He creates these rules and then he gets in this situation and then the tables are turned and he's just. He's flustered. I'm not gonna do it. I'm not an expert. But like, I just want you to know that that's power that I have over you right now.
Sean Fennessy
You should do what you feel is right. That's what David lynch would have said.
Chris Ryan
That's what Paul Thomas Anderson would do. He'd say, Mike DeLuca, cut the check.
Sean Fennessy
You know what? You know what David lynch said? And this is advice you should take. Fix your heart or die.
Amanda Dobbin
Okay.
Sean Fennessy
That's good advice.
Amanda Dobbin
I mean, I'm not. I like, I just. I want you to know that I could do that. And I know.
Sean Fennessy
Could you imagine the things I could do to you? You have no idea.
Chris Ryan
Maybe I should have stayed in.
Sean Fennessy
Yes, you were wise to get out when you did.
Amanda Dobbin
Yeah.
Sean Fennessy
It's a guy who's seen Den of Thieves right there.
Amanda Dobbin
I told him to not do because then it just becomes really ugly.
Chris Ryan
Are we getting too Bella knee pilled?
Amanda Dobbin
Is this coming? I think it must be ugly, but.
Sean Fennessy
I think it's coming out. I think I was fidgeting because I am annoyed preemptively by the PTA movie failed discourse.
Chris Ryan
Yes. Okay. The Killers of the Flower Moon, redux.
Sean Fennessy
I don't want to live through that. I think that's a huge waste of time.
Chris Ryan
Yeah.
Sean Fennessy
This movie. No reasonable person should give him $180 million or whatever to make a movie. It's super cool that it happened.
Chris Ryan
Yes.
Sean Fennessy
And I will celebrate that fact. But from a financial strategy perspective, that seems weird that this happened.
Amanda Dobbin
I'm going to do Marty Supreme. 200 bucks.
Chris Ryan
Great.
Sean Fennessy
Good pick.
Amanda Dobbin
Okay, thank you.
Sean Fennessy
Josh Safdie's new movie coming out Christmas Day.
Chris Ryan
About ping pong.
Sean Fennessy
About ping pong. About a real ping pong champion portrayed by Timothee Chalamet. Yeah.
Chris Ryan
And co starring Gwyneth Paltrow.
Amanda Dobbin
Yeah.
Sean Fennessy
So I only have $205. So I'll say 205. 204. Because I need a dollar.
Amanda Dobbin
I will say 206.
Sean Fennessy
Okay.
Chris Ryan
So you take this.
Amanda Dobbin
It's yours. I'm excited about this. I feel like this is a good movie for all of us.
Sean Fennessy
Yes. Great big picture movie.
Amanda Dobbin
And look at you. Yeah. Thank you so much.
Chris Ryan
A little slow getting out of the gate. And then look at this. Look at this rotation.
Amanda Dobbin
Was I slow getting out of the gate, or was I generous to Sean? And then just.
Chris Ryan
It seemed like you were slow. I mean, respectfully, you were just, like.
Amanda Dobbin
Yelling about vampires for 45 minutes.
Sean Fennessy
You know, it's her here.
Amanda Dobbin
And that's your podcast. Yeah, that's really. I liked the dinosaur bit, so I really enjoyed that, but I wasn't gonna bid on that, so, you know.
Chris Ryan
Okay.
Amanda Dobbin
All right, what am I gonna do? Should I do one for me? Should I do one?
Chris Ryan
Wait, you. You said Marty supreme, and you bid on it. Do you have a. Do you get to nominate a movie?
Amanda Dobbin
No, she has two and a half.
Chris Ryan
Oh, you have two. That's right.
Amanda Dobbin
I'm gonna. You know what I'm gonna do? Because I can't get it next time, and I'm gonna spend all my money on it. Opus, written and directed by Mark Anthony Green. $308. Stars IO Dim and John. Yeah, but also, it starts IO dibbery, and it's a 24.
Chris Ryan
I agree.
Amanda Dobbin
I don't know if it's gonna get. Maybe it could get to 100. I don't know.
Sean Fennessy
That would make it the first A24.
Amanda Dobbin
Movie to cross $100 million. That's fine. Sometimes you can do things that you want, and that's what I want to do.
Sean Fennessy
Absolutely. If you've proved nothing else about the world and yourself in the many years we've been doing this show together, it's. Sometimes you do what you want.
Chris Ryan
I want to make a film that stars me about a man who loses his mind trying to recap Jurassic movies. And then you take it in an auction because you love me so much. You're just like $1,000 for Chris's. I will show you the life of the mind.
Amanda Dobbin
But, like, you know that just like your autobiographical project.
Chris Ryan
Yeah.
Amanda Dobbin
I would draft like every year for all the money.
Chris Ryan
I appreciate it.
Amanda Dobbin
I really think that there should be more content and art made about the Chris Ryan experience.
Chris Ryan
Thanks. It's pretty boring right now, but I appreciate it.
Sean Fennessy
Hmm.
Amanda Dobbin
So you can do whatever you want. And you're welcome. I guess I should have let you bid on Opus, but I want it.
Chris Ryan
Are you gonna take havoc? You know, that's actually coming out now.
Sean Fennessy
This is the actual Gareth Evans movie starring Tom Hardy.
Chris Ryan
Tom Hardy fighting his way through the.
Sean Fennessy
London Oakland, which I think was filmed in 1978. And they're finally. They're letting it out of the cage now, which is exciting for you. Why has this movie been on the shelf for four years?
Chris Ryan
I don't know.
Sean Fennessy
Okay. Any two movies I want from the entire movie year slate, do it.
Amanda Dobbin
Be true to yourself.
Sean Fennessy
I'll take the battle of Backton Cross for $1.
Amanda Dobbin
Okay.
Sean Fennessy
A sort of inversion of the financial approach taken on the funding of this film. Paul Thomas Anderson's new movie. That I can't wait to see. This is the last time I will mention the discourse about that movie.
Chris Ryan
I only brought it up because if you were to spend, say, a lot of money on this, if this had become like the first thing we threw out there and it went up to like $400, you'd be bummed out if it was like, actually, we're going to kick this to January. You know, that's true.
Sean Fennessy
I mean, that is literally what happened with Mickey 17, right? Yeah. And it's same studio. It's plausible that happens another time. Hmm. What is the next movie that I want?
Chris Ryan
So let's just kind of look at your. You got a Mission Impossible. That's going to be a blockbuster 28. You probably get a blockbuster there. A big, bold, beautiful Journey. That's the coconut movie.
Amanda Dobbin
Yeah.
Chris Ryan
So you're hoping for Metacritic there and possibly an Oscar.
Sean Fennessy
No, it was 50 bucks. So I was hoping for a good movie. That was honestly my thinking.
Chris Ryan
Okay.
Sean Fennessy
And also a movie that we're not gonna. I would not be able to bid on next year because it's earlier than.
Chris Ryan
That and then backed in. You know, there's a lot of things that could happen there. It also could not come out, so you need.
Sean Fennessy
It's unusual for PTA movies to not get Oscar nominations.
Chris Ryan
Yep.
Sean Fennessy
Spin that up.
Amanda Dobbin
Yeah.
Sean Fennessy
So I feel like I can at least lean on that. Metacritic is a coin flip, but if.
Chris Ryan
This is like a wacky, Inherent Vice type comedy.
Sean Fennessy
Yeah. More challenging. Should we just do the Metacritic game for Paul Thomas Anderson? Quickly.
Amanda Dobbin
Sure.
Bob Wagner
He's got five over 85.
Sean Fennessy
That's a lot. Okay, what are they, Bob?
Bob Wagner
It's the master, Boogie Nights, Licorice Pizza, Phantom Thread, and There Will Be Blood.
Sean Fennessy
Yeah. Okay.
Amanda Dobbin
Yeah.
Sean Fennessy
So any movie I want. Let's look at my list. Hmm. Now, I could hurt you.
Amanda Dobbin
Okay, go ahead.
Sean Fennessy
But I won't do it.
Amanda Dobbin
All right?
Sean Fennessy
I won't do it because that's not what I'm about.
Amanda Dobbin
I mean, I have not done it twice now. I have been the bigger person times 3,000 on this podcast, and you've literally.
Sean Fennessy
No one would agree with that. Not a single soul would agree that you were ever the bigger person.
Amanda Dobbin
I gave you Mission Impossible, and I didn't take Battle back. And across from you. I gave it to you. You got it for $1, John.
Sean Fennessy
I did.
Amanda Dobbin
So, you know what?
Sean Fennessy
Are these the tales you tell yourself?
Amanda Dobbin
Let's pick a movie.
Sean Fennessy
I'm going to take my time.
Chris Ryan
This is.
Amanda Dobbin
This is why we need you to hang in.
Chris Ryan
Yeah, I know.
Amanda Dobbin
Sorry.
Chris Ryan
It's okay.
Sean Fennessy
You guys can. You guys can chat.
Chris Ryan
I was trying to bring Running man up as, like, a conversation topic.
Amanda Dobbin
I'm just not.
Chris Ryan
And then I kind of got distracted.
Amanda Dobbin
Real, real mixed on Edgar Wright. You know, it can work for me or it cannot.
Chris Ryan
I mean, there's movies here.
Amanda Dobbin
I love you, Glenn Powell.
Sean Fennessy
There's some what.
Chris Ryan
Huge movies that you can just get for cheap. Or you can be like, I'm gonna.
Sean Fennessy
I know. I don't really need a huge movie at the moment. Well, then is the thing I'm thinking of.
Chris Ryan
Well, you deliver me from nowhere, brother.
Sean Fennessy
I don't know what that is. Oh, is that Bruce Springsteen?
Chris Ryan
Yeah.
Sean Fennessy
Oh, is that coming out?
Chris Ryan
I mean, it's. They're. I think they're almost done shooting it.
Sean Fennessy
I think you should try to get that next time around.
Chris Ryan
You know, Inoritu's movie is supposed to.
Sean Fennessy
Come out this year, maybe 26, but.
Chris Ryan
They already shot it. Started shooting in November.
Sean Fennessy
26. It's dated, I think.
Chris Ryan
Okay.
Sean Fennessy
Another Apple movie. Tom Cruise.
Amanda Dobbin
Yeah.
Chris Ryan
Talking about movies. They're good.
Amanda Dobbin
Mickey 17, still available and March 17th release.
Chris Ryan
Man, that voice too much.
Sean Fennessy
Good.
Chris Ryan
Nah.
Sean Fennessy
You don't like it?
Chris Ryan
Not into it. I'm sure he'll be cool in the movie, but that's a tough beat.
Sean Fennessy
Where are you at on our pets?
Chris Ryan
I like it.
Sean Fennessy
We know you love Twilight. That's. Those are your favorite.
Amanda Dobbin
I'm really, really proud.
Chris Ryan
Yeah, I know.
Amanda Dobbin
I just want to. I just want to restate that. I don't know. I was trying to participate in the conversation.
Chris Ryan
Oh, dude, you know what I wish I had picked?
Sean Fennessy
What's that?
Chris Ryan
Caught stealing.
Sean Fennessy
Yeah. Aronofsky, you're back.
Chris Ryan
Austin Butler is a baseball player who's.
Amanda Dobbin
In the New York. It's like a deep conflict for me. Right.
Chris Ryan
What's up with your boy? David Robert Mitchell's new movie, it was.
Sean Fennessy
Pushed to 2026 by Warner Brothers, Flowervale street, starring Anne Hathaway. I think it's about dinosaurs. I think they saw the Jurassic World rebirth train coming. They said we gotta get off the tracks.
Chris Ryan
Are you psyched about Kathryn Bigelow's missile strike movie?
Sean Fennessy
I'm not not striked. I'm not not stoked. I'm a little bit concerned about the timing.
Amanda Dobbin
Okay. So here's one thing I'll say to you.
Sean Fennessy
Okay, that was an example of what I'm referring to. Here's one thing I will say to you. You could just say I actually can't.
Amanda Dobbin
Because you guys talk over me all the time.
Chris Ryan
No.
Amanda Dobbin
Do we? So it's. Yeah. This is in my.
Sean Fennessy
Be that as it may, Amanda, as.
Amanda Dobbin
A working woman, I gotta seize the floor. Do you, the schedule maestro, anticipate drafting or auctioning before July 11? Because otherwise it won't be there for you.
Sean Fennessy
Yeah, we usually do run it the first week of July. So you're talking about Superman. I've thought about it.
Amanda Dobbin
What if I'm on vacation? What if I strategically sounds like we.
Sean Fennessy
Got a two man auction coming?
Amanda Dobbin
Vacation, though, that's not.
Chris Ryan
Do you want to go away on vacation for Superman?
Amanda Dobbin
I'm helping you and also warning you all at once.
Sean Fennessy
You know, this only happened because I suggested that she go on vacation in July so that she doesn't have to talk about Superman on the pod.
Chris Ryan
Is it that? Is it.
Amanda Dobbin
Is that so Superman is July 11th, so it would. Yeah.
Chris Ryan
Like, why are you so upset about.
Sean Fennessy
She thinks she's like Angela Merkel or something where she's just like. I have allowed for all of these things to transpire like we know, man.
Amanda Dobbin
Well, I'm just letting you know if we auction on July 12th.
Sean Fennessy
Amanda, I'll just put Mallory in your chair. What are you talking about, man? See, you're gonna try to okie dokie on Superman by going on vacation.
Amanda Dobbin
I'm not okie dokie you. I can't take it.
Chris Ryan
Yeah, take Superman. Is that what we're talking about here?
Sean Fennessy
No, but I don't want it. Okay. I don't. In this. In this instance, I don't want it caught stealing.
Chris Ryan
No. Delivery from Nowhere. Probably not coming out this year.
Sean Fennessy
I'll take Eddington. This is Aria.
Amanda Dobbin
Yeah, that's.
Chris Ryan
It a Western, or is it a contemporary road trip movie?
Sean Fennessy
It's a Western. I don't know. What? When it's set.
Chris Ryan
Okay.
Sean Fennessy
I don't know a whole lot about it. There's not a lot about it out there.
Chris Ryan
Again, it's got an incredible job, Hollywood.
Sean Fennessy
Just.
Chris Ryan
Just tell me when the fucking movie is.
Sean Fennessy
You think it's a disinfo campaign?
Chris Ryan
I just think they're doing a bad job getting people psyched about stuff.
Sean Fennessy
Do you think that the name the Battle of Cross will be the name of the movie? Do you think the movie will be called the Battle of Backton Cross?
Amanda Dobbin
No, I don't.
Chris Ryan
I don't.
Sean Fennessy
What do you think it'll be called?
Amanda Dobbin
You don't?
Chris Ryan
It's gonna be called, like, Shutter Island 2. What if it is Shutter Island 2?
Sean Fennessy
Great. You really brought it today. You both brought it today. Great stuff, guys. Shall we recap our picks?
Chris Ryan
Sure.
Sean Fennessy
Okay. Amanda, why don't you start?
Amanda Dobbin
Okay. I see that really stayed with you. I have Ms. Regan 2.0. How much for $30?
Chris Ryan
Somehow she started speaking Elvish.
Amanda Dobbin
Which, just to clarify, is not a prequel, because I got that wrong last time.
Sean Fennessy
Not a prequel.
Amanda Dobbin
Yeah.
Sean Fennessy
Yes.
Amanda Dobbin
Okay. F1 for $256. The Phoenician Scheme for $200, Marty supreme for $206 and Opus for $308. It's a good lineup.
Sean Fennessy
Agreed.
Chris Ryan
Chris Sinners for $270. Highest to lowest for $205. Jurassic World Colon Rebirth for $100. Sentimental value by Joe Keem Trier for a hundred and ten dollars. And Running Man, Edgar Wright's Glen Powell movie for a hundred dollars.
Sean Fennessy
And how much did you leave on the board there?
Chris Ryan
$215. I carry that over.
Sean Fennessy
That does not carry over.
Chris Ryan
Okay.
Sean Fennessy
Sadly, I don't care. Should we start doing that?
Chris Ryan
I don't think it's an issue of, like, oh, I don't have enough.
Amanda Dobbin
We should have done that. I mean, I guess we could do it.
Chris Ryan
You know what I would rather do? Buy another slot.
Sean Fennessy
Well, what just happened to me could work to my advantage long term.
Amanda Dobbin
Right. And. And I in the future. And it also would have kept us actually drafting.
Sean Fennessy
Yes. So maybe we should do it in 2026. We'll definitely be doing this show. It's definitely going to last that long.
Amanda Dobbin
We're learning and growing.
Sean Fennessy
Yes, we're learning a lot and growing a lot.
Chris Ryan
I can't tell if this is a Bit.
Sean Fennessy
I'm growing. I. I am growing in my appreciation for the Mission Impossible franchise, which I acquired for $390. The final reckoning, because Amanda gave it to me. 28 years later, I got for $355. A big, bold, beautiful journey. I got for $50. The Battle of Backton Cross, I got for $1. And Eddington, I got for $204. I don't know if I'm. I'm quite curious to know how many. Maybe we can circle back to this. How many Oscar nominations are in this first slate?
Chris Ryan
That's a great. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Do you think that the final 28 movie will be called at the end of the day, Colon Zombies?
Sean Fennessy
Be that as it may, comma zombies. It is what it is. I don't think there are any Oscar nominations in our first slate.
Amanda Dobbin
Challengers. I might get a couple.
Sean Fennessy
You might?
Amanda Dobbin
I might. I will probably get one.
Sean Fennessy
I guess Chris will have below the.
Chris Ryan
Line stuff, maybe Gladiator 2.
Sean Fennessy
Below the line, yeah. And I'll have Nosferatu Below the line, but not. No, not really any above the line stuff.
Amanda Dobbin
Yeah.
Chris Ryan
Well, dude will probably get nominated for best picture, right?
Sean Fennessy
It will. It will for sure. So quickly, before we wrap.
Chris Ryan
Yeah.
Sean Fennessy
Denis. It looks like he's not gonna make it. Right. Like, you're the Denis guy.
Chris Ryan
I. I am a Denis guy, yeah.
Sean Fennessy
Some might say the.
Chris Ryan
Yeah, the. I would say that. That. That my love of him peaked with Arrival, though. Like, you know what I mean? Like, I've enjoyed this Dune experience with.
Sean Fennessy
A rival and not Sicario.
Chris Ryan
Well, wasn't Sicario previous to Arrival? Like, I'm saying, like, on the. On the. On the train. Did it up the mountain.
Amanda Dobbin
But wouldn't Sicario is your passion?
Chris Ryan
Yes.
Amanda Dobbin
And then it stayed at Arrival.
Chris Ryan
Yeah. Like, I love enemy prisoners. I love Sicario. I love Rival.
Amanda Dobbin
Yeah.
Chris Ryan
And then I have appreciated the Dune movies, but I do feel like we've lost, like, six of a great filmmaker just making cool shit. But Dune's great. I'm happy for him.
Amanda Dobbin
So it peaked with Sicario, Plateaued with Arrival, I suppose.
Chris Ryan
Yeah. I don't really understand. Well put Mountains.
Amanda Dobbin
Thank you so much. I don't really either.
Sean Fennessy
Hmm. Okay, so you're, like, good, and you don't deserve it, Denise. That's what you're saying.
Chris Ryan
That's not what I said. It's not what I said.
Sean Fennessy
What are you saying?
Chris Ryan
I'm saying that we should see if we can change the academy rules to nominate prisoners for best picture this year.
Sean Fennessy
Prisoners. You know, it's got some flaws. Chris, what is it about that story.
Chris Ryan
That you connect to Jake Gyllenhaal's character?
Amanda Dobbin
Is that the.
Chris Ryan
Why are you shopping for baby clothes?
Amanda Dobbin
Oh, my God.
Chris Ryan
What you doing at the mall, Detective Loki? Yeah. I don't think I have an Oscar in my slate here. I guess I'm holding out hope for the Denzel one. Everybody thought he was gonna win for Gladiator, and he's not.
Sean Fennessy
Did we pick him to win for Gladiator in our bets? We didn't. Right. Remember, we did the bet in September?
Amanda Dobbin
Yeah, I do. I think I maybe picked Clarence Macklin, which would be incredible, but I don't really think that it's going to happen. Unfortunately.
Sean Fennessy
No, Kieran Culkin is going to happen for sure.
Amanda Dobbin
That's another thing where I'm like, a real pain. Like a good movie that's taken up a little too much space. Okay.
Chris Ryan
Okay.
Amanda Dobbin
That's where I am with it. So that's where I am.
Chris Ryan
Everywhere you go, people are saying, ma'am, have you seen A real pain?
Amanda Dobbin
I just also, Kieran Culkin is very good in it and has won several Emmys for his work and succession, which I might posit is indistinguishable from what he's doing in A Real Pain. And I really like him. I hope he keeps working forever. I enjoy his awards acceptance speeches.
Chris Ryan
Yes.
Amanda Dobbin
It's not who I would give this supporting actor Oscar to this year.
Chris Ryan
You would give it to Clarence Macklin.
Bob Wagner
From Sing Sing in the big Oscar bet. Amanda, you did pick Clarence Macklin. And, Sean, you picked Guy Pierce sight unseen, I believe.
Amanda Dobbin
Yeah, but we kind of knew, you know.
Sean Fennessy
Yeah.
Bob Wagner
You both had Kieran Culkin nominated, so, Yeah.
Sean Fennessy
I did love the potential narrative for Guy Pierce, which is playing out in the marketing and press around the movie. A lot of, like, I think he's now been profiled in Vanity Fair and the New York Times. A lot of people being like, you motherfuckers forgot this guy circa Louisiana. Confidential and Memento was set to be the golden one and then was not for reasons, because I guess some guy at Warner Brothers who didn't like Guy Pierce didn't allow him to be in Chris Nolan movies. That was one of my. Do you read that?
Amanda Dobbin
Oh, wow.
Sean Fennessy
It was a crazy factoid that he shared in the Vanity Fair interview where he was like, some guy at Warner Brothers said no to me appearing in future Nolan movies. And so he just didn't show up in any Nolan movies after Memento, which is just an amazing Sliding door.
Chris Ryan
Yeah.
Sean Fennessy
You could think of so many different parts that he could have played. Could have been Batman, could have been any of the villains. Could have been in, you know, Inception. Could have been in Interstellar. You could have seen him in Dunkirk. You could have seen him in any of those movies.
Chris Ryan
Yeah, yeah. Trying to think of who he would be. Inception.
Sean Fennessy
Tom Hardy. Oh, he's very similar kind of thing. Not as burly, obviously, but that kind of charming, darling thing. You could see Guy Pierce doing that. Right.
Chris Ryan
We would. We would lose Tom Hardy in Obsession. Inception, though.
Bob Wagner
He could have been Joseph Gordon Levitt in that movie. He might be a little older, but change the character a smidge.
Sean Fennessy
Yeah. It might have been a little old at that point. I don't know. Could have been Kenneth Branagh and Dunkirk, you know.
Chris Ryan
Yes.
Sean Fennessy
Why not Home could have been Kenneth Branagh and Tenet.
Chris Ryan
That would have been a better movie.
Sean Fennessy
Oh.
Amanda Dobbin
Oh, yeah. I mean, Kenneth Branagh is pretty good in both of them, to be honest.
Sean Fennessy
He's super hammy. And Tenet, I mean, it's. It fits the movie.
Amanda Dobbin
It's like he's on, like, a yacht being a Russian.
Chris Ryan
He's Roman Abramovich.
Amanda Dobbin
Yeah. He's supposed to be.
Sean Fennessy
Yeah.
Bob Wagner
Who would he be in Interstellar? Damon.
Sean Fennessy
Mmm, no. Interstellar. I haven't seen that in a long time.
Chris Ryan
He would be. Yeah. Honestly, like. I mean, like, unless you were Gonna give him McConaughey, I guess he would be Damon.
Bob Wagner
Yeah. It's really the only choice.
Sean Fennessy
Is there no other male co. Lead.
Chris Ryan
You haven't gotten involved in the Interstellar, Like. Like revival? Not Revival, no.
Sean Fennessy
I watched it during COVID and tried to have as open a heart as possible. And I like it. I just don't love it. And I know that for many people, it is, like, the apex of movie making in the 2010s, but it's a movie that just does too much explaining for me. Feels very overwritten. That's just me. I wish nothing but the best for all the.
Chris Ryan
Can you imagine if you got to another planet and Sean was there with a podcast set up? It was just you and him potting, waiting for me to come, suggesting.
Sean Fennessy
That's not what it feels like for Amanda right now.
Amanda Dobbin
Yeah.
Sean Fennessy
She goes home to the aliens, and then she comes here with another alien. Well, guys, thank you very much. Thanks for listening to the Big Picture. I hope you're having a wonderful Monday in America. Thank you to Bobby Wagner, our producer, for his work on this episode. Thanks to Jack Sanders for his work later this week. We will be talking about the Academy Award nominations. The Academy just sent me an email that says we are in fact holding our event on Thursday, January 23, to announce they actually shared the order in which the Oscar nominations will be announced. Wow.
Amanda Dobbin
Who is presenting them?
Sean Fennessy
I didn't read that far in the email. Shall I pull it up again?
Amanda Dobbin
Yeah, let's do it.
Sean Fennessy
Okay. Please hold. It does not say.
Amanda Dobbin
Okay, great. Good job.
Sean Fennessy
I guess they're waiting.
Amanda Dobbin
Or. Yeah, maybe they don't know yet.
Sean Fennessy
Do you think that they should have you and I do it with live commentary on each award nomination? Yeah. Do you think that would do well?
Chris Ryan
So you can no. Sell Kieran Culkin's nomination.
Amanda Dobbin
Listen, I wish him the best. I really liked the profile of him in New York magazine promoting A Real Pain and Emma Stone's role. Yeah. A reverse psychology. That's all. Great. I would give the Oscar elsewhere. That's all.
Sean Fennessy
Chris, where are you going after this?
Chris Ryan
I have to go pick up some frames. Like some paintings that have been framed. It's been a long process, and I was gonna maybe get a turkey sandwich. Turkey sandwich from Cookbook.
Amanda Dobbin
Oh, that's a really good turkey sandwichmont. Yeah.
Sean Fennessy
Does that mean you'll be having sex in between those two acts?
Chris Ryan
It's about 20 blocks between the framing store at Larchmont.
Sean Fennessy
Anything could happen. Cheetah's in that zone. What about you, Amanda? What are you gonna be doing this afternoon?
Amanda Dobbin
I was gonna go see Hard Truths.
Sean Fennessy
Oh, that's nice. I'm going to see the Brutalist.
Amanda Dobbin
Oh, wow.
Chris Ryan
How many times is this now?
Sean Fennessy
This will be my third time.
Chris Ryan
And.
Amanda Dobbin
What.
Chris Ryan
Can I just ask why you're seeing it, or just because, like, you're. Like, I have.
Amanda Dobbin
I'm. The next time that we speak, barring another act of God.
Sean Fennessy
Yeah.
Amanda Dobbin
I will have seen the Brutalist the.
Sean Fennessy
Next time we speak to each other. I'm certain that's not true. I'll be texting you.
Amanda Dobbin
I was trying to include everyone who's listening this part into a microphone last time that. The next time that we are all here together and that. That's the. That's the we that includes this wonderful community that we've built here at the big picture, the royal we. I. I will have seen the Brutalist.
Sean Fennessy
Okay.
Amanda Dobbin
I'm going to try my best.
Sean Fennessy
What do you think will happen after that happens?
Amanda Dobbin
I don't know. What if I love it? I. Could.
Sean Fennessy
I. I would honestly be surprised if you were like, this is bad.
Amanda Dobbin
I. I don't. I'm not in that that head.
Sean Fennessy
Thank you for listening to the big picture. We'll see you soon.
The Big Picture Podcast Summary: Episode "The 2025 Movie Auction"
Release Date: January 20, 2025
In this engaging episode of "The Big Picture" podcast hosted by Sean Fennessy and Amanda Dobbin, along with guest Chris Ryan, the trio delves deep into the intriguing concept of auctioning upcoming movies. The episode, titled "The 2025 Movie Auction," offers listeners a comprehensive look into their unique approach to evaluating and bidding on films slated for release in 2025.
Sean Fennessy kickstarts the conversation by briefly mentioning discussions about Greta Gerwig's adaptation of "Narnia" being released on 1,000 IMAX screens by Netflix. This sets the stage for the episode's primary focus: the auctioning of upcoming movies.
Sean Fennessy [02:04]: "We are pivoting away from national politics today on the Big Picture to talk about theatrical distribution."
Chris Ryan introduces himself as a seasoned auctioneer, bringing a fresh perspective to the podcast's dynamic.
A significant portion of the discussion revolves around Netflix's decision to release "Narnia" in theaters, a move that marks a departure from the company's traditional streaming-only strategy. The hosts analyze the potential impact of this decision on the broader entertainment industry.
Amanda Dobbin [03:02]: "But it's. There are no, like political ramifications. I don't really remember."
Sean Fennessy appreciates the spectacle-oriented nature of the movie, pondering its box office potential.
Sean Fennessy [05:05]: "It's nice that you have a standard, but this is a business conversation. No one gives a shit what you think about the movie."
The conversation highlights the strategic moves by major studios and streaming giants, emphasizing the evolving landscape of movie distribution.
The hosts transition into explaining their Movie Auction Game, a recurring feature where each participant bids fake money on films expected to perform well based on specific criteria.
Sean Fennessy [12:28]: "If you think about it from the context of the big picture and the movie obsessives, it seems like, oh, what do the precedent mean?"
The rules are outlined, detailing how participants allocate a set budget to bid on five movies each per episode, with triggers such as box office performance, Oscar nominations, and Metacritic scores determining the success of their bids.
Chris Ryan reflects on last year's auction, mentioning successful bids like "Dune Part Two" which exceeded expectations by crossing the $100 million mark.
Chris Ryan [15:02]: "It crossed $100 million at the box office."
Sean Fennessy notes his strategic choices, including "The Wild Robot," which met multiple triggers, showcasing the effectiveness of thoughtful bidding.
Sean Fennessy [27:24]: "The Wild Robot to me is the kind of movie that... could get two Oscar nominations, $100 million at the box office, plus an 85 Metacritic score."
The bulk of the episode is dedicated to the auctioning process for 2025 releases. Participants discuss and bid on various films, balancing their preferences with the set triggers to maximize their success.
Chris Ryan bids on titles like "Sinners" and "Gladiator 2," sharing his insights and strategies.
Chris Ryan [15:47]: "Then I had in the second auction the instigators for 130 bucks. It was an Apple movie and did nothing."
Amanda Dobbin navigates through her selections, including "Blitzed" and "Twisters," reflecting on critical reception and box office performance.
Amanda Dobbin [16:59]: "It doesn't matter to me."
Sean Fennessy emphasizes the importance of meeting multiple triggers to ensure winning bids, highlighting his choices like "Mission Impossible: Dead Reckoning" and "Nosferatu."
Sean Fennessy [27:50]: "The Wild Robot... could have two Oscar nominations, $100 million at the box office, plus an 85 Metacritic score."
The interactive bidding process is filled with banter and strategic decision-making, illustrating the competitive yet collegial nature of the hosts.
Throughout the episode, the hosts engage in lively discussions about their bidding strategies, the performance of selected films, and the implications of their choices on the auction's outcome. They highlight the challenges of predicting a film's success and the importance of aligning choices with the established triggers.
Sean Fennessy [44:37]: "It does matter to me."
Amanda Dobbin [18:25]: "But like, the critics aren't helping me and the public is slacking on its duty to go see box office sensations like Trap."
The camaraderie among the hosts adds depth to the conversation, making the auction process both entertaining and insightful.
As the episode winds down, the hosts recap their auction picks, discuss the potential outcomes based on their bids, and reflect on the evolving movie industry's dynamics. They also touch upon upcoming discussions around the Academy Award nominations, hinting at future episodes' content.
Sean Fennessy [106:07]: "I'm a big fan of his Predator Badlands and the Running man coming out on the same day is incredible."
The episode concludes with light-hearted interactions and teases about future topics, leaving listeners eagerly anticipating the next installment of "The Big Picture."
Amanda Dobbin [03:02]: "But it's. There are no, like political ramifications. I don't really remember."
Sean Fennessy [27:50]: "The Wild Robot... could have two Oscar nominations, $100 million at the box office, plus an 85 Metacritic score."
Chris Ryan [15:47]: "Then I had in the second auction the instigators for 130 bucks. It was an Apple movie and did nothing."
Amanda Dobbin [16:59]: "It doesn't matter to me."
Final Thoughts:
"The 2025 Movie Auction" episode of "The Big Picture" offers a fascinating blend of movie industry analysis, strategic game play, and engaging dialogue among the hosts. By intertwining their auction game with real-time discussions on movie distribution trends and box office predictions, Sean Fennessy, Amanda Dobbin, and Chris Ryan provide listeners with both entertainment and insightful perspectives on the evolving landscape of cinema.