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Sean Fenesi
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Amanda Dobbins
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Sean Fenesi
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Amanda Dobbins
I'm Amanda Davis and this is The.
Sean Fenesi
Big Picture 8 conversation show about auctioning. It is the midway point of the year, and so we are auctioning once again to fill out our slates, which means. Chris Ryan's here. Hi, Chris, how are you?
Chris Ryan
Nice to see you guys.
Sean Fenesi
Nice to see you, Chris. Last time I saw you, we were crying arm in arm watching the wild bunch on 70 millimeter Egyptian experience. It was a magical night. Me, you, Tyler Parker, 300 other very normal men experiencing cinema together. Any takeaways from that night out?
Chris Ryan
I just can't believe how alive and well the spirit of movies is in Hollywood. There was also a Trump rally, I think, in Hollywood last night.
Sean Fenesi
But you organized and weirdly made it out to the movie. That was so strange.
Chris Ryan
They exceeded me for pre, probably.
Sean Fenesi
Uh, Amanda, how are you? How was your weekend? Did you go to the Trump rally?
Amanda Dobbins
I was lovely. No, Okay, I. I went to the beach and I had a great time. And now I'm. I'm back here sitting between the two of you.
Chris Ryan
You know, I can't tell. Are you getting tired of us?
Amanda Dobbins
I was excited. I was excited to see you. And then he got a little spicy about the box office. And then you guys were doing your, your, your Wild Bunch, which sounds really.
Chris Ryan
Nice, but you know, the 70 millimeter festival is one of the great things that happens in this city.
Amanda Dobbins
It is. It's really cool.
Sean Fenesi
It was opening weekend and we've all got for various films throughout the month, which will be exciting. Wild Bunch holds up. It's definitely a movie about men not knowing how to be around each other and alive and constantly making choices about the end of the world. So, you know, resonant in these times. Unfortunately, another man is not alive.
Amanda Dobbins
Jesus Christ.
Sean Fenesi
That was a segue. You can't get in the Way of a segue like that.
Chris Ryan
I'll do a better segue.
Sean Fenesi
Okay.
Chris Ryan
A guy who wouldn't have been a stranger in a Sam Peckinpah movie. How about that?
Sean Fenesi
That's right. Michael Madsen, the great Michael Madsen would have fit right in. He passed away at 67 on July 3rd. Tragically. You know, star of. Probably most memorably for us, for Quentin Tarantino films.
Amanda Dobbins
Yeah.
Sean Fenesi
I think most of us probably saw him for the first time as Mr. Blonde in Reservoir Dogs. He was also in both Kill Bill movies. He was in the Hateful Eight. Actually going through his filmography, kind of blown away by the depth of work that he did in the 90s and 2000s. He really was in from the Doors to the Natural, to Kill Me Again. Donnie Brasco, Free Willy.
Amanda Dobbins
I was gonna say, don't you dare skip Free Willy.
Sean Fenesi
Yeah, I mean, Wyatt Earp, Selma and Louise. Really? Yeah, yeah. A ton of movies over the years. A linchpin, often identified as a tough guy, but I always thought more of like your cool nihilist, you know, the anything goes kind of character. Pretty quirky, very strange presence. Yes.
Chris Ryan
Let's cut the rug.
Sean Fenesi
We'll dance. Yeah, he inspired a lot of your dance moves. Yeah. You know, he's been working mostly in independent and VOD stuff in the last 15, 20 years, but just one of my favorite people to see pop up in a movie. And also one of the stars of your favorite movie species.
Amanda Dobbins
Sure. Yes.
Sean Fenesi
Which is about an alien woman who comes to this planet and murders her prey.
Chris Ryan
And it's apparently gonna be rewatchable. So I've heard Bill is using that.
Amanda Dobbins
That's exciting.
Sean Fenesi
You're not appearing on that episode.
Chris Ryan
I haven't been drafted yet, but, you know, I always. I'm waiting for the bat signal to go up.
Sean Fenesi
Okay. Speaking of bat signals, you guys saluted to a dino shaped shadow in the sky called Jurassic World Rebirth. It opened this weekend to $147 million domestically. How are you feeling?
Chris Ryan
I feel good. But I think the other underlying story here is Scarlett Johansson is our most successful movie star now.
Amanda Dobbins
Yeah, well, the Avengers are counting towards that total. Right. So she's just racking up franchises at this point.
Sean Fenesi
Yeah. I think that honestly, when you look at the list of people who are the most successful actors of all time, it's usually because they've been a part of a really long running franchise. Samuel L. Jackson for a while was, I think the reigning box office king.
Chris Ryan
Vin Diesel probably cakes up.
Sean Fenesi
Definitely. So it's not stunning. But again, Another savvy career move by ScarJo. Staying in the news.
Amanda Dobbins
Anything you want to say to the people or to the dinosaurs?
Chris Ryan
Have you thought about whether or not you were too hard on that movie?
Sean Fenesi
No. This movie's terrible.
Amanda Dobbins
Direct to Cameron Gareth Edwards.
Sean Fenesi
Gareth, you're a very talented craftsperson. Your scripts are terrible. I don't know what to tell you, man. This is like five movies in a row. The box office has just been killing it though, for three months. Movies. I had my little emotional break in March where I was like, God, tv, White Lotus and all these other limited series. And then ever since then, I spoke it out of existence. It's just been movie time. Cr you hosted television podcast. How's that going?
Chris Ryan
It's going fine. Today we talked about the Eternaut, an Argentine Argentinian show about the end of the world or about an apocalyptic event. And then we also talked about Smoke, which is Dennis Lehane's Apple TV show, which Andy hated and I thought was fine.
Sean Fenesi
Okay, interesting.
Chris Ryan
Yeah, I keep finding myself on the other side of like a very passionate argument that I don't have a ton of passion for.
Amanda Dobbins
Okay, yeah. This reminds me that I need your Britbox password so I can watch this show about the Mitfords because there's another.
Sean Fenesi
Show about the Mitfords.
Amanda Dobbins
I don't think there's ever actually been a show about them, but Amanda's content around you.
Sean Fenesi
I'm surprised you didn't create that show.
Amanda Dobbins
Obviously many people have been. Many characters have been modeled on them throughout time, including perhaps one movie that one of us will auction in the fall.
Chris Ryan
Zora Bennett from Jurassic World Rebirth has got a little bit of a nitpur to her.
Amanda Dobbins
There was, you know, there's a mercenary quality to at least one of them.
Sean Fenesi
That is true. Any thoughts on Jurassic World? It actually kind of like underperformed relative to the franchise.
Amanda Dobbins
Yeah, yeah, sure, yeah.
Sean Fenesi
Do you know what the three day weekend box office was for this movie?
Chris Ryan
$147 million.
Sean Fenesi
No, that was the five day weekend.
Amanda Dobbins
That was what? Your dol from Wednesday morning at 8am.
Sean Fenesi
Wednesday, the three day weekend was 91.
Amanda Dobbins
Okay.
Sean Fenesi
Wow.
Chris Ryan
What? Cucks.
Sean Fenesi
That's pretty low actually, relative to the typical three day weekend for a Jurassic.
Chris Ryan
Coming along to bust it out.
Sean Fenesi
I don't know.
Amanda Dobbins
What else did you do this weekend that has given us this mindset?
Sean Fenesi
What do you mean?
Amanda Dobbins
Yeah, I'm doing great things. Okay. Okay. Yeah.
Sean Fenesi
I. I'm just. I'm still confused by you guys being like, we need more of these Jurassic World movies.
Chris Ryan
Do you know what, though? I, I rarely do this, but I will remember you said that, A, the next time you like a bad movie. And B, yeah, you're like. And of course, Jurassic World, which I thought was a really thoughtful depiction.
Sean Fenesi
Because.
Chris Ryan
I think you count on me not checking the tape, but this one's singed. I'm going to remember this.
Sean Fenesi
All right, fair enough. If I do that, you have. You have the privilege to shoot me in the face live on the pod. And I promise Eileen will not press charges.
Amanda Dobbins
Right.
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Amanda Dobbins
Absolutely. You have some updates?
Sean Fenesi
Well, we can go through our slate, but a gentleman named Sam Burtwistle has been working on the show for us this summer and he's been helping us build out our documents, provide research, and he made a proposition about the scoring system that we have for the movie auction. Now, the movie auction, I will admit, is one of my least thought out projects in the history of this show.
Amanda Dobbins
Right.
Sean Fenesi
I came up with it like on a Sunday at 9pm before a Monday record and was just like, guys, can we do this? And you said, yes. I had no parameters for success. We didn't properly track it across the year. There were no stakes whatsoever. A year ago, I added some wrinkles to the rules, which I admit, a.
Amanda Dobbins
Year ago or six months ago, I.
Sean Fenesi
Think it was, it was for 2024. So, yeah, the triggers.
Chris Ryan
Second one of 2024.
Sean Fenesi
I believe the triggers were added at the beginning of 2024, which included Metacritic score and box office and Oscar nominations as indicators of a strong slate of auctioned off movies.
Amanda Dobbins
Right.
Sean Fenesi
Again, not some of my best work. So, Sam, but I think these pods.
Chris Ryan
Are some of our best work.
Amanda Dobbins
I do.
Chris Ryan
I think they're some of our most thoughtful discussions of the state of cinema.
Sean Fenesi
I'll take your word for that.
Amanda Dobbins
We go to new places, we learn new things about each other and the world, you know.
Sean Fenesi
Yeah, that may be true. I don't want to upset that.
Amanda Dobbins
Yeah, let me just. I don't want to. I don't want to spoil this auction. But I am bringing like an original auction energy to my personal list and prep for this podcast. That means that I looked at the letterbox list 20 minutes ago. But that's okay.
Sean Fenesi
Okay.
Amanda Dobbins
Because I did read the new rules. But there are new.
Sean Fenesi
There are new rules if we want to adapt this.
Chris Ryan
Yeah.
Sean Fenesi
So I'll just read them out to you guys and you can let me know if you're interested. I don't know if you're interested in.
Chris Ryan
Getting past the Freedom Caucus, but. Yeah.
Amanda Dobbins
Excuse me.
Sean Fenesi
Yeah. Major Marjorie Taylor Greene energy this morning.
Amanda Dobbins
Fuck both of you. And fuck Marjorie Taylor Greene.
Sean Fenesi
So this would be the new proposed scoring. Rather than just having triggers like we had in the past, where if you crossed $100 million domestically, that indicates you're cleared and your board is valid, we could have more of a tiered system. So $150 million at the box office would be 1 point. 300 million would be 1 point. 450 million would be 1 point, so on and so forth. Likewise for Metacritic. 79 on Metacritic would be 1 point. 82 on Metacritic would be 1point. 85 would be 1 point. And then the highest in the draft, Metacritic wise, would also get an additional point. Now, I said an 85 Metacritic bar last year, which is pretty high.
Chris Ryan
Yeah.
Sean Fenesi
There's usually only roughly 10 to 12 movies that cross that threshold, and nine of them are films that most people will not see. And then, of course, there's Oscars. So there's below the line nominations and wins, which only half a point.
Chris Ryan
Not very respectful to our craftspeople.
Sean Fenesi
Yeah, I think we can also. Anything that Sam has suggested here, above the line would be one point. And a best picture win would also be one point. So thoughts on this framework?
Chris Ryan
I like it. I also think that there would be. My, my, my revision to this would be like, should we get a Tony Reali esque kind of like live scoring going too? Like, just to mix it up, you know, where a guy is just like 10 points. That's a great. That's a great idea.
Sean Fenesi
You know, like, do you want Jack Sanders to be empowered to be scoring us in real time? I mean, that is something that we.
Chris Ryan
Probably could pull off, have a revolving cast of Tony Realis.
Sean Fenesi
Okay. You know, you mean you want to have like a guest come in mid auction and determine. You know, when we first started doing the auction, we had Danny Heifetz come in and explain.
Amanda Dobbins
That's right.
Chris Ryan
Auctioning.
Amanda Dobbins
I was very nervous about auctioning.
Sean Fenesi
Right. And ringer fantasy football, co host and participant in many a fantasy draft over the years. This is sort of our version of the fantasy draft. So we could. We could do that in the Future. We're not doing it today.
Amanda Dobbins
Okay.
Sean Fenesi
So we didn't ask anybody as a. As a resource. Sam went through and graded out our 20, 24 slates with these rules, if applied. And the results, which I acknowledge mean nothing because we weren't using these rules.
Chris Ryan
Well, because I'm. I'm winning. So that's. Of course, you've acknowledged last year's.
Sean Fenesi
Yeah, well, the scores are from last year because of that attitude that you're suggesting. I would have had 38 points. Chris, you would have had 13.5, and Amanda would have had 10. Now, obviously that's. That's meaningless relative to what we're talking about here, but do you want to do this? Do you want to use this system? Sure.
Amanda Dobbins
Okay.
Sean Fenesi
You're rolling with this?
Amanda Dobbins
I'm rolling with it. I don't think anything will materially change.
Sean Fenesi
For me in terms of what you're going for.
Amanda Dobbins
Yeah. You know, because we introduced. I guess we had some thresholds last summer, but I don't remember that.
Chris Ryan
There is sequel stuff.
Amanda Dobbins
Yeah. Yeah. But we really got into it in January and I. This strategy, just kind of trying to think in strategy really threw me off, like, my course, which is doing what's best for me and, like, not giving a shit about what anybody else thinks has brought me this far.
Sean Fenesi
So where would you say that is.
Amanda Dobbins
Dealing with you on a Monday morning?
Sean Fenesi
That's what I'm saying. Did you get where you wanted to go?
Amanda Dobbins
That's true. But it's like, you know, your own design. Exactly. I don't. I don't run a studio, so I don't really have to care about box office. I. I don't really respect other people's opinions, so I don't need to care about Metacritic. So I think. I think it's good. There was a lot of numbers that you just said, so I'm happy that Sam is doing the math and not me. I don't know who you just referenced is or how that would function. Tony.
Chris Ryan
Tony Reali, he was the host of around the Horn, which is like, pardon the interruption. Around the Horn block on espn.
Amanda Dobbins
Yeah.
Chris Ryan
And like, you know, people would have a take and he would be, like, constantly giving them points or taking away points, depending on, like, what he thought of their takes, whether their opinion was.
Amanda Dobbins
Like, live in the episode.
Chris Ryan
If you just be like.
Amanda Dobbins
I mean, I do think we should have, like, more like buttons and interactive.
Sean Fenesi
That you want to be able to definitely look into that.
Amanda Dobbins
I think that's a good idea.
Sean Fenesi
Definitely going to work in the.
Chris Ryan
Where I was winning something.
Amanda Dobbins
So you're doing okay this year?
Sean Fenesi
Well, you. You are doing well this year, but.
Chris Ryan
I thought I was winning.
Amanda Dobbins
Just.
Sean Fenesi
It's July 7th. A lot of. Lot of ballgame left here. Okay, let's go through our slates from last year because that'll help illuminate, I think, what Amanda is saying about last year or from last. Last.
Chris Ryan
Last draft.
Sean Fenesi
Okay. First. Yeah. So what did you get last year and where does it. Or last season and what is it? Where does it stand?
Amanda Dobbins
Well, let's see. The first one I have is Megan 2.0, which was just, you know, a disaster. I like, did I fuck up? Did they fuck up? Who can really say?
Chris Ryan
You should go on the town and talk about.
Sean Fenesi
Another postmortem. Megan 2.0.
Amanda Dobbins
I thought that Jason Blum was very, very savvy to go on the town. And I listened to all of it and enjoyed. Didn't speak to my personal complaints with the film Megan 2.0, which you and I both saw.
Sean Fenesi
We did.
Amanda Dobbins
That didn't really pan out.
Sean Fenesi
No, I think they overthought. I think that Jason was right about the fact that Megan was not as flexible and fungible a character as they had hoped and that the idea of pivoting this into a sci fi action movie.
Chris Ryan
I didn't even say they had done that though. That there's something.
Sean Fenesi
To me, there's something else. There are a number of other factors going on. I think the movie ultimately is just not as strong as the first movie. It's not as funny, it's not as energetic and propulsive. And then on top of that, it.
Amanda Dobbins
Was a little funny, though. That is the. There's some humor. I still chuckled.
Sean Fenesi
It's the same filmmaker from the first film.
Amanda Dobbins
It's just doing. It's doing too much and it's trying to. There is an opening set piece in like some, you know, weapon system silo in an undisclosed location that has nothing to do with Megan. And you're just kind of like, what's going on?
Sean Fenesi
And it's actually pretty CR coded.
Amanda Dobbins
Yeah. In that sense, is Megan a lioness? Priebus.
Sean Fenesi
There is the villain. The T1000 of the movie is a kind of lioness.
Amanda Dobbins
Okay. Yeah.
Sean Fenesi
And I think you would be sexually.
Chris Ryan
Attracted to the reason why Lioness is such an effective story is you also get a sense of their home life. They're not robots, you know.
Amanda Dobbins
Right.
Sean Fenesi
I'm sure that's true of Lioness. I think the other thing with the movie is they release in the middle of June, which Jason noticed, which is like a weird release date and it's two hours long and that movies like that should always be 95 minutes. Just. That made no sense to me. Two hours long.
Amanda Dobbins
True. Agree with all of what you said. And then as Matt sort of pointed out on the town, they did not have, like the massive viral marketing moment that propelled Megan 1.0 and was just. I mean, you can't control it. You can't fault anyone for not having that. But that was the dancing and the TikTok of it all. Certainly played a part in getting people to theaters.
Sean Fenesi
Yeah. I think they were also obviously just competing with a lot more movies for that viral mind sh. Air in June. It's just like how to Train youn Dragon was a massive movie that the same studio put out. There's only so much kind of interesting.
Chris Ryan
It's a D movie. It's like a perfect dump.
Sean Fenesi
The first one absolutely was. It was like. It was. It was water in the desert in the January release. Slate.
Amanda Dobbins
Right.
Sean Fenesi
A year and a half ago. So, anyway, anyway, movie didn't work, so that didn't help you very much.
Chris Ryan
So.
Amanda Dobbins
Yeah. And I was banking on that from a box office perspective. Didn't really work. But I did get F1, which I think is gonna help me with box office and also hopefully technical categories. Though once again, I do think that it's disrespectful that it only gets 0.5.
Sean Fenesi
There's a exceedingly high chance it will be nominated, at least for Best sound.
Amanda Dobbins
Yeah.
Sean Fenesi
Maybe best Editing, Cinematography.
Amanda Dobbins
Yeah.
Sean Fenesi
Claudio Miranda, I believe, was nominated for Top Gun.
Amanda Dobbins
Maverick. Yeah.
Sean Fenesi
So I could see that.
Amanda Dobbins
See? So listen, we could. We could stack some up. Okay. I got Opus, which is a sentimental favorite, so that's fine with me. Phoenician Scheme, which is another one of my favorite movies of the year. So I feel good about that. I think, you know, once again, the critics are not helping me with the Metacritic score and I don't respect them. And they don't respect me, apparently. Or Wes Anderson, maybe. Oscars. But do you think it's a critics choice?
Chris Ryan
They have an Amanda meeting about disrespecting.
Amanda Dobbins
Well, I will be honest. I don't really respect the critics choice. The Oscars, you know, also don't really respect Wes Anderson, so that it seems. But it's fine. I have it because I like it. And then Marty supreme hasn't been released yet, you know.
Sean Fenesi
Yes.
Amanda Dobbins
And Timmy, we pray at the moment.
Sean Fenesi
You'Ve got one total point relative to this new scoring system.
Amanda Dobbins
Sure.
Sean Fenesi
Because F1 is likely to cross $150 million domestically.
Amanda Dobbins
Okay.
Sean Fenesi
F1 doing pretty well.
Chris Ryan
Yes.
Sean Fenesi
Not amazingly well at the box office, but well enough, I think.
Amanda Dobbins
Yeah.
Sean Fenesi
Chris, let's talk about your slate.
Chris Ryan
I had sinners, which got two points for its Metacritic score and one point for its $278 million box office. I guess that's domestic.
Sean Fenesi
Domestic, yeah.
Chris Ryan
I took Jurassic World, Rebirth, where I got one point, will certainly clear the box office threshold.
Sean Fenesi
So might get to 2, might get.
Chris Ryan
Over 300, and then highest to lowest Sentimental Value and Running man are my other three picks. Not to be released yet. Yet to be released.
Sean Fenesi
Highest low. Seeing it tonight. Very excited.
Chris Ryan
Are you really?
Amanda Dobbins
Yeah, yeah. He's going with my husband.
Chris Ryan
I'm very excited for this.
Amanda Dobbins
I don't get to go.
Sean Fenesi
Yeah, I am looking forward to it. Okay. So, Chris, you've got four points right now. I think you also have probably another point windfall coming on centers in terms of nominations that will turn out to be probably the pick of the year. Yeah, I would guess.
Amanda Dobbins
Congratulations, Chris.
Sean Fenesi
Well done. Cr. For me, I've got Mission Impossible, Final Reckoning, which, you know, I just didn't really like very much. Unfortunately for me.
Amanda Dobbins
Yeah.
Sean Fenesi
And that did get me.
Amanda Dobbins
Chris hated it more. Would you like to. Would you like to say any more rude things?
Chris Ryan
I think I'm on record on the Watch podcast, which I hope people carve out a little bit of time to listen to.
Amanda Dobbins
That's your second watch.
Sean Fenesi
You can sound like a nonprofit, you.
Chris Ryan
Know, like, you know, we're, you know, the Oasis record stage. Standing on the shoulder of giants. On the shoulder.
Sean Fenesi
You are the shoulders. You're the wind beneath my wings. Honestly, that movie has gained $191 million at the box office, so that's one point it's not getting past there. 67 on Metacritic, not ideal, though, roughly.
Amanda Dobbins
Honestly, pretty much where it sits.
Sean Fenesi
Yeah. The idea that the Phoenician scheme is 70 and this movie is 67 is pretty goofy, in my opinion. 28 years later, a movie that I think I'm gonna get no points from, but I feel good about having on my stadium. I loved 77. Metacritic score, $60 million box office domestically. Still, some open question as to whether there will be a third movie in that franchise. The Bone Temple arrives in January.
Chris Ryan
I think that January release will be good for the Bone Temple.
Sean Fenesi
Could be a Megan situation.
Chris Ryan
Well, I just think it's a great time to be like, here's an action horror movie.
Sean Fenesi
Totally agree.
Chris Ryan
Granted, not Danny Boyle, but we'll See a big bowl.
Sean Fenesi
Beautiful. Journey is still to come in September. Have not seen it. Can't say I love the trailer. To be honest though, I really like Kogonada, the director. So hopefully that's good. One battle after another.
Amanda Dobbins
Yeah.
Sean Fenesi
Paul Thomas Anderson, congrats on you.
Amanda Dobbins
You're welcome.
Sean Fenesi
That was very kind of you to allow that to happen. I'll view it as penance for all the times I gave you things that you wanted.
Chris Ryan
Okay.
Sean Fenesi
One buck. One buck for one battle after another.
Amanda Dobbins
I know because I was filled with the spirit of, you know, generosity and community.
Sean Fenesi
Is this how you treat your children?
Chris Ryan
Saint Nick over here?
Sean Fenesi
Ten weeks that movie comes out. Yeah, ten weeks. You looking forward to it?
Amanda Dobbins
Yes, I would really look. Be looking forward to a Venice opening night premiere.
Chris Ryan
Oh yeah?
Sean Fenesi
You think that will happen?
Chris Ryan
No, I don't either.
Amanda Dobbins
But I was, I was thinking about it literally in the shower last night, like, I wonder what was I just.
Chris Ryan
Reading about that might go to Venice? And I was like, haha. It was something weird. I was like, that would be funny that she has to see that. I can't remember. But I was like, this is hilarious. It was the Putin movie.
Amanda Dobbins
Oh, sure, yeah, listen, I'll be there.
Sean Fenesi
Nothing would have been funnier than you seeing Joker Folio do. Unfortunately, that didn't happen.
Amanda Dobbins
I know. Yeah. Thank you. Sigh for participating with Beetlejuice 2 being the opening.
Sean Fenesi
That would have been great.
Amanda Dobbins
No, here's Beetlejuice.
Sean Fenesi
He was all right.
Amanda Dobbins
Here's the thing about the ovations is that it's just like you're just standing around. They are so weird. It's a good sized theater, but it's not like everyone's on a balcony at the opera removed from you. They're just kind of like sitting there and everyone's just kind of clapping and the lights are up and you're checking your phone and clapping some more. It's very strange.
Chris Ryan
Well, honor Vladimir Putin. If that does come to that.
Amanda Dobbins
Make sure get in front and center, you know. You think he'll be there?
Chris Ryan
No, it's Isaias, right? It's Isaias movie about him.
Sean Fenesi
I did not even know that was happening. Olivier Isaias is making a movie about Vladimir Putin.
Chris Ryan
I think he's done.
Amanda Dobbins
Yeah, I think it's gonna be.
Sean Fenesi
I was not aware of that. That's fascinating. Okay.
Chris Ryan
And you had Eddington and I had Eddington.
Sean Fenesi
That was my last movie, which I've seen and loved and we will talk about on this show in 10 days.
Chris Ryan
You know what? When I was watching the trailer For Eddington. Or maybe it was a clip from it. It reminded me of my Romulus story of the two guys holding their phones at each other. That's basically Eddington.
Sean Fenesi
It's pretty accurate. It's pretty accurate.
Amanda Dobbins
Oh, God, the world is just shitty place. So perfect.
Sean Fenesi
Okay, okay. The highest Metacritic scores of the year so far. Three movies. Sorry, baby. Just had Ava Victor on the show last week. Let's talk about that familiar touch, which I recommended on our Best of the Year Episode.
Amanda Dobbins
Episode.
Sean Fenesi
And Caught by the Tides, which Adam Neiman recommended on that episode as well. Seven movies have broken the $150 million threshold thus far.
Amanda Dobbins
Is your meme of the you versus Adam Neyman.
Chris Ryan
Oh, Michael Porter Jr. And Cam Johnson. Yeah.
Sean Fenesi
Who do you think is going to win that trade?
Chris Ryan
The Nuggets.
Sean Fenesi
Yeah, I think the Nuggets too. Movies that have crossed the $150 million threshold. Chris, how many of these movies have you seen a Minecraft movie?
Chris Ryan
Nope.
Sean Fenesi
Lilo and Stitch?
Chris Ryan
Nope.
Amanda Dobbins
An Outrage.
Sean Fenesi
Sinners? Yes. How to Train youn Dragon.
Chris Ryan
Nope.
Sean Fenesi
Captain America. Brave New World.
Chris Ryan
Yes.
Sean Fenesi
Mission Impossible. The Final Reckoning? Yes. Thunderbolts? Yes. Five of seven. Pretty good. Joe, popcorn over here. Amanda has seen all of them because she signed up for this Life with Me.
Amanda Dobbins
No, I actually didn't see a Minecraft movie yet.
Chris Ryan
I thought you wouldn't see that at like 10 in the morning or something like that.
Amanda Dobbins
No, I mean every single other movie you just listed I went and saw at 10 in the morning.
Sean Fenesi
That's okay. Because the spirit entered my body when I saw Minecraft and that was the turning point for movies are back.
Chris Ryan
That's when cinema came back.
Sean Fenesi
That was when it all happened.
Chris Ryan
Truffaut and Hitchcock rolling around in heaven.
Sean Fenesi
Yes. Thank you, Jared Hess, for all that you have done. According to DraftKings, the best picture betting odds right now, sentimental value at +500, which.cr currently has additional films which may or may not be auctioned off today.
Chris Ryan
Sorry. Sentimental value is the betting favorite for Best Picture.
Sean Fenesi
When you look at that. When you look at the Best Picture.
Amanda Dobbins
Race this year, it's confusing.
Sean Fenesi
We said this last year and it turned out to be the Inori year. But I remember in the first half of last year we were like, this is a weird year. And this is also kind of a weird year. There's not like a big.
Chris Ryan
I won't stand any hit pieces on My guy Joe. My. My guy Joaquim Trier. Yeah, fuck that. We're not doing that.
Sean Fenesi
I'm not on this show. We love him.
Chris Ryan
I'M just saying, when the Oscars starts, people are just like, what about this?
Sean Fenesi
What about that?
Chris Ryan
I'm just like.
Sean Fenesi
You mean when he gets in the news cycle? Yeah, you. What if I. Amelia Perez. No, that won't. That's not going to happen. Did you watch the trailer for Sentimental Value?
Chris Ryan
No, I won't do it.
Amanda Dobbins
Yeah.
Sean Fenesi
Okay.
Amanda Dobbins
Show us the movie.
Sean Fenesi
I was quite touched by the trailer.
Amanda Dobbins
Yeah. Well, sure. And I'm going to be very moved by the film.
Chris Ryan
I won't be watching that trailer. Or that trailer.
Sean Fenesi
The weapons trailer.
Chris Ryan
All good.
Sean Fenesi
Unfortunately. I saw it in a movie theater. The second one. I need that movie to be released immediately.
Amanda Dobbins
The Cinemacon footage, and it looked really messed up and good.
Sean Fenesi
Yeah.
Amanda Dobbins
No, you guys didn't auction that last time.
Sean Fenesi
We did not. It is available right now. Yeah. So that can be interesting for us.
Amanda Dobbins
Can I auction it if I have no intention of ever seeing it?
Sean Fenesi
Sure, you can do whatever you like.
Amanda Dobbins
Maybe. Maybe I'll see. But it's.
Sean Fenesi
It's.
Amanda Dobbins
It's disappearing. Yeah. It seems really.
Sean Fenesi
I think it'll be a tough one.
Amanda Dobbins
Yeah.
Sean Fenesi
Additional films that are on the list for the best picture betting odds. After the Hunt, the Luca Guadagnino movie is plus 700. The Ballad of a Small Player. We'll almost assuredly be Adventist. I think probably a Telluride, too, if I had to guess.
Amanda Dobbins
Okay. That's your business.
Chris Ryan
Sorry. How are. How is this introduced? Were these lists of films you're doing just films that are.
Sean Fenesi
These are just the Best picture odds right now, as we think about what the slates are going to be for us. After the Hunt is the Luca movie. The Ballad of a Small Plater is the Edward Berger Macau Colin Farrell gambling movie.
Amanda Dobbins
I know, absolutely.
Sean Fenesi
Which we're all very excited about. Now, I have a bit of a riff about Netflix, if you guys are interested to hear it. Sure.
Amanda Dobbins
Oh, sure. Let's load it up.
Sean Fenesi
Well, it's nothing negative, really. It's just that I would argue that six of the 14 most anticipated movies of the year are all Netflix.
Amanda Dobbins
Sure. But then you're taking the box office hit.
Sean Fenesi
That's. And that. That's my point.
Chris Ryan
Interesting.
Sean Fenesi
So.
Amanda Dobbins
So you got to want it.
Sean Fenesi
You've got J. Kelly, the no Bombach movie. You've got Frankenstein from gdt Train Dreams, which premiered at Sundance and they picked up Wake Up Dead man, the third Knives out movie, the Ballad of a Small Player, and Catherine Bigelow's A House of Dynamite.
Chris Ryan
What the fuck?
Sean Fenesi
So that's. That's a really exciting Slate for Netflix.
Chris Ryan
And that's the new guy, Right.
Sean Fenesi
Well, I think that most of those movies are holdovers from the Scott Stuber era.
Chris Ryan
Okay.
Sean Fenesi
But they'll be pushing them out. And I want to see all those movies now.
Chris Ryan
Draft, Electric, State, you can.
Sean Fenesi
And then behind them, Hamnet, Sinners, Avatar, Fire and Ash. These are other potential best picture nominees. I think probably only two or three of those movies will be nominated for best picture. And there's going to be a bunch of stuff that we don't know about or isn't listed here.
Chris Ryan
Okay.
Sean Fenesi
That we'll get into. Okay. Movie auction. Now we have to determine who gets to put the first movie up. Right. So, Jack, can you help us with that?
Amanda Dobbins
Jack, you want to explain to people what you're using?
Chris Ryan
Absolutely.
Sean Fenesi
Rest in peace, Top Gun hat. I do not own one. In the green room, I found a.
Chris Ryan
Large Dungeons and Dragons die which I.
Sean Fenesi
Will be using to select today's nomination.
Amanda Dobbins
So it's like soccer ball size.
Sean Fenesi
It is literally the size of a.
Amanda Dobbins
Soccer ball, which is, I'm told, is not what the normal die size is.
Chris Ryan
I don't believe so.
Sean Fenesi
Okay, shall I go? Yeah, Here we go.
Amanda Dobbins
Great. Great sound effects panning over here. Yeah.
Sean Fenesi
I'm looking out for the audio listeners.
Chris Ryan
Nominating first cr.
Amanda Dobbins
Yes. Give us the chaos.
Chris Ryan
Second will be Sean Fennessy.
Sean Fenesi
Third, Amanda Dobbins.
Amanda Dobbins
When you. You had first picked the year that you did House of Gucci for like $500, right? Yeah.
Chris Ryan
I'm not gonna make that mistake. But I am gonna. I'm gonna keep you guys on your toes.
Sean Fenesi
You're gonna make another mistake. So just for the listeners at home, we each have a thousand dollars of imaginary money to auction two. We all need five films to fill out our slate. So we have 10 movies total.
Chris Ryan
Yeah.
Sean Fenesi
So, Chris, you have the honors. Do you know what you wanna do?
Chris Ryan
First pick, first nomination, first movie up for auction.
Amanda Dobbins
Let's do.
Chris Ryan
Let's keep it in the. The same track we were on. I'm gonna put Ballad of a Small Player up first. Edward Berger on the Sydney Pollock track. Could be the safest pair of hands we've got right now. And this film sounds a little wistful, a little contemplative. It's about a con man on the run, down and out Macau, a place I have not been. And he is confronting ghosts, pandets of the soul, you know? But I'm getting like wafts top notes of Michael Clayton from this one.
Amanda Dobbins
Yeah.
Chris Ryan
Like, it feels like it's gonna be more than just like Colin Farrell staring at things. And I like. I like its Oscar chances, despite its Netflix pedigree.
Amanda Dobbins
Okay.
Chris Ryan
I think it's going to be seen by a lot of people, and it feels like a good bet, so I'm going to go. I'm going to go with that.
Sean Fenesi
Unlike all the other Netflix titles I mentioned, I haven't really heard much about this movie. I don't.
Chris Ryan
Based on a novel. 2014 novel. Yeah.
Sean Fenesi
It's. Rowan Joffe is the screenwriter.
Amanda Dobbins
Right.
Sean Fenesi
Which is a little bit of a.
Chris Ryan
What did he write?
Sean Fenesi
I was with you 28 weeks later before I go to sleep, the Nicole Kidman movie. Not like he's no Tony Gilroy.
Amanda Dobbins
Yeah.
Chris Ryan
Okay.
Sean Fenesi
We'll see.
Chris Ryan
Let's do 100 bucks. We'll put 100 bucks up.
Sean Fenesi
Under bucks. Yeah, I'll. I'll. I'll say 125 to play the game with you.
Chris Ryan
Also, we'll say Colin Farrell racking up some awards love over the last couple of years.
Amanda Dobbins
That's right.
Sean Fenesi
Penguin.
Chris Ryan
I think everybody enjoys interviewing him.
Sean Fenesi
He's like a.
Chris Ryan
He's a great guy to have around on the roundtables.
Amanda Dobbins
Great speeches.
Chris Ryan
Yep. Has been in LA for the last couple years doing Sugar. And I feel like is like out and about. Like, people really like Colin Farrell right now.
Sean Fenesi
He will also be in a big, bold, beautiful journey. Ballad of a Small Player, I don't think has a release date. I would assume October, maybe late September. That's pretty soon. It's probably a movie that's in the discussion for the festivals. Netflix usually has a really strong presence at Venice. Do you have any interest in this movie? You like Edward Berger?
Amanda Dobbins
I do. And I was. I think I was really, really into it, respectfully, until you brought up Michael Clayton. And I was like, if this is like a B Michael Clayton, then I'll be a little sad. But also I would watch a B. Michael Clayton every day. So I'll. I'll do what you did. 125.
Sean Fenesi
Yeah.
Amanda Dobbins
140.
Sean Fenesi
Okay. We're playing 150.
Chris Ryan
150.
Sean Fenesi
Is Colin Farrell, if he wins an Oscar, does it feel like you've won an Oscar? Do you feel like that goes on my mental.
Chris Ryan
I think that it would put a capstone on one of the great sustained comebacks in acting, modern acting history. Is that. Is that too big of a statement? I think he was really in the wilderness for a minute there.
Sean Fenesi
I think he was always working, but working in not a lot of good stuff. And he seemed to have some personal stuff, too, but always super talented what is it, 150? I'll say. 155.
Amanda Dobbins
160.
Sean Fenesi
A movie about a high stakes gambler in Macau is also I Pretty pornography to me.
Amanda Dobbins
Trust Edward Berger.
Sean Fenesi
Yeah.
Amanda Dobbins
You know, I. It's like I. I do kind of believe this.
Sean Fenesi
Let me, let me proffer a question to you both. Would you rather have Edward Berger make the next Bond and Denis Villeneuve make what other whatever movie Edward Berger was going to make next?
Amanda Dobbins
Yeah, I think so.
Sean Fenesi
Yeah. I think that's probably, you know, we.
Chris Ryan
All agree prisoners 2 still in captivity.
Sean Fenesi
That'S the film that you want to see Denis make next.
Amanda Dobbins
That's the. Which one? Enemy's the Big Spider. And Prisoners two is Gyllenhaal and Hugh Jackman. Yeah, I mean prisoners, but also.
Chris Ryan
And Prisoners is when Jake Gyllenhaal goes to the guy's house, he's like, why were you shopping in the kids section?
Sean Fenesi
But Enemy is the unofficial sequel to the Wild Bunch about the division between man.
Chris Ryan
It's about a pregnant lady and twins.
Amanda Dobbins
That's cool.
Sean Fenesi
And spiders.
Chris Ryan
Yep.
Amanda Dobbins
Oh, my God.
Sean Fenesi
What do you got? You got 155.
Amanda Dobbins
I think I said 160.
Sean Fenesi
160.
Chris Ryan
165.
Amanda Dobbins
Okay.
Sean Fenesi
I think I'm good. I do want to see this really bad. I just think no box office makes it complicated.
Amanda Dobbins
Yeah. And probably. I mean, the. The Oscars. The Academy does like Edward Berger.
Chris Ryan
This is my thing.
Sean Fenesi
But they don't like him enough to nominate him. They didn't nominate him last year.
Chris Ryan
Yeah, but I think they nominated him.
Amanda Dobbins
For All Quiet on the Western Front, didn't they?
Sean Fenesi
Yeah.
Amanda Dobbins
Hmm.
Sean Fenesi
Did they? They may not have.
Amanda Dobbins
I. Let's. Yeah, find out about that.
Chris Ryan
Remember when you were like that?
Sean Fenesi
No, they did not. Only for screenplay.
Chris Ryan
So he hasn't been nominated.
Sean Fenesi
He's never been nominated for director.
Amanda Dobbins
Oh, okay.
Chris Ryan
Okay. Well, I'm sticking with my guns. It's 165. I can't take it back.
Amanda Dobbins
I can't take. I can't take Colin Farrell Gambling Macau from you.
Chris Ryan
Thank you.
Sean Fenesi
I think this is a. This is gonna be a fun movie. This is a movie we should see together.
Amanda Dobbins
Is it gonna be fun or is it gonna be, you know, if it's dark.
Sean Fenesi
Night of the Soul. That's great. For me, as somebody who loves to.
Chris Ryan
Gamble, I just don't think it's going to be the card counter. I think it's gonna be. I think it's gonna be a little bit more pop. Tilda Swinton swanning around.
Amanda Dobbins
Right. I Mean conclave, you could also say is about longing and, you know, a man trying to figure out.
Chris Ryan
But it's very procedural.
Amanda Dobbins
Exactly. So this could be. Proceed.
Chris Ryan
I hope that this has some.
Amanda Dobbins
If this has court intrigue as well.
Sean Fenesi
Are you suggesting the card counter was not procedural?
Chris Ryan
I think it was more of like a.
Sean Fenesi
You know, it's about the procedures and.
Chris Ryan
Yeah, right. Interrogation of torture.
Sean Fenesi
Right. Okay. So I have to put a movie up. Congrats to you.
Chris Ryan
Okay, thanks.
Amanda Dobbins
So 165 is what you did.
Chris Ryan
Yeah. That was value.
Amanda Dobbins
Okay.
Chris Ryan
To me.
Amanda Dobbins
Wow.
Sean Fenesi
I think this is good. Good fodder for conversation. I'll put after the hunt on the board.
Amanda Dobbins
All right.
Sean Fenesi
I feel like we should just talk it out now.
Amanda Dobbins
Okay.
Sean Fenesi
This is a campus cancel culture drama from Luca Guadagnino. And is it Justin Karitzkis?
Amanda Dobbins
That's a great.
Chris Ryan
He wrote Sergeant Rock. I don't know if he wrote this.
Amanda Dobbins
I don't think so screenplay.
Chris Ryan
Do you see Lucas doing his Nora Garrett excuse? The Sam Altman movie right now? Who is Luke is going to make a Sam Altman movie next month about OpenAI without Andrew Garfield.
Amanda Dobbins
Do you know what else Nora Garrett wrote?
Sean Fenesi
No, don't.
Amanda Dobbins
Beirut.
Chris Ryan
Oh, shit.
Sean Fenesi
Wow. Wow. There are millions of people listening at home who have no idea what Beirut is.
Chris Ryan
Right?
Sean Fenesi
Sure.
Amanda Dobbins
But we had a Slack channel devoted to Chris that Chris started.
Sean Fenesi
Chris's favorite film of 2016, Beirut, starring Jon Hamm.
Amanda Dobbins
No, no, no, no. She was in it. Sorry. I fucked up. Of course he did. Yeah.
Sean Fenesi
Has Nora Garrett written a film?
Amanda Dobbins
I don't know. You know what? I got to tell you, Google, I really fucked me on that one.
Sean Fenesi
Has she written an email? Has she written a postcard?
Amanda Dobbins
Upcoming. This is still actress IMDb redesign. Also not helping. I don't. I don't really know what else that she has written. Okay. Did she write Criminal Minds?
Sean Fenesi
Congratulations to first time screenwriter Nora Garrett.
Amanda Dobbins
Yeah.
Sean Fenesi
On her original, which is being adapted by Luca Guadagnino and stars Julia Roberts. Julia Roberts plays a college professor, as does Andrew Garfield, Michael Stuhlbarg, Chloe Sevigny and I believe IO Edebury is a student or a TA of some kind.
Amanda Dobbins
Yes.
Sean Fenesi
And there is some suggestion of impropriety.
Amanda Dobbins
Correct.
Sean Fenesi
And things unravel from there. This is obviously a very loaded setting. A loaded topic. A loaded filmmaker.
Amanda Dobbins
Yeah.
Sean Fenesi
Trent Reznor and Atticus Ross are back for the score of this movie. I will note. Very excited about it. $100 to start our conversation.
Chris Ryan
What's your last favorite Julia Roberts movie?
Amanda Dobbins
My last favorite. Well, so I'm always glad that she's back in my life.
Chris Ryan
Yeah.
Amanda Dobbins
So I enjoyed both Leave the World behind and what was the.
Chris Ryan
The Ticket to Paradise?
Amanda Dobbins
Ticket to paradise.
Sean Fenesi
You know, where did you stand on Ben is back?
Amanda Dobbins
We put it in the hall of fame because she's really, really, really good in that very upsetting movie. That's fine. Sorry if I'm a Julia Roberts completist. You know.
Sean Fenesi
What about.
Amanda Dobbins
Sorry if I've seen it all.
Sean Fenesi
Did you like her performance in Mother's Day?
Amanda Dobbins
Oh, and I actually didn't see that. And I thought you were gonna say money monster.
Sean Fenesi
How about we do a live watch along in person on Mother's Day? Mother's Day.
Amanda Dobbins
Not on Mother's Day. On Father's Day.
Sean Fenesi
Should we do it in. In Atlanta?
Amanda Dobbins
No. Though you know, Julia Roberts. Also Smyrna, Georgia. That's right.
Sean Fenesi
That's my point. Well, my double point.
Amanda Dobbins
Yeah. I love Julia Roberts and. But it is true that she slowed down. She's. Yeah. Also when I did the hall of Fame, there's like a 15 year stretch between I think it was like maybe Notting Hill. And then we didn't put anything.
Sean Fenesi
I thought she was great in homecoming.
Chris Ryan
She was really good at homecoming.
Amanda Dobbins
Listen, she's Julia fucking Rock. She's great in homecoming, you know, so.
Sean Fenesi
I. Oh, I didn't tell you we watched. By the way, it's a hundred dollars, so you might want to pay something.
Amanda Dobbins
125.
Sean Fenesi
We watched. Went to Vidiots over the weekend to get to rent something.
Amanda Dobbins
Okay.
Sean Fenesi
And Alice pulled Mirror Mirror off the shelf.
Amanda Dobbins
Oh boy.
Sean Fenesi
Which speaking of Julia, I'd never seen before. And honestly, not bad.
Amanda Dobbins
No, she was fine.
Sean Fenesi
A movie with a terrible critical reputation. Directed by Tarsem Singe, who made the Sell and the Fall, which are both beautiful movies that are somewhat incoherent.
Amanda Dobbins
That was why the Fall was one of Julia Roberts's Letterboxd 4.
Sean Fenesi
That makes a lot of sense. Yeah, she loves Tarsem. And I thought Mirror Mirror was not bad. It also is.
Amanda Dobbins
Who is the. Who's Cinderella in that?
Sean Fenesi
Is that Lily Collins?
Amanda Dobbins
Oh, it's Lily Collins. And then the Cinderella was Lily James, Correct?
Sean Fenesi
Yeah, Lily Collins and Armie Hammer.
Amanda Dobbins
I do remember that.
Chris Ryan
Who's in the which Lily is in the Riz Ahmed movie. That I think looks good. Relay.
Sean Fenesi
That's Lily James.
Chris Ryan
Lily James.
Sean Fenesi
Yeah.
Amanda Dobbins
Yeah. All right.
Sean Fenesi
Yeah. That's the new David McKenzie movie. You have Hell or High Water fame.
Amanda Dobbins
Okay.
Chris Ryan
Nobody bid on this yet. Nobody.
Amanda Dobbins
I'm 125.
Sean Fenesi
125. Are you. You're not interested in this because you don't like Julia Roberts and hate college campuses.
Chris Ryan
I just think that it's a fool's errand to go up against the Guadalino twins.
Sean Fenesi
You don't really care about Luca.
Chris Ryan
I think he's fine.
Sean Fenesi
Interesting.
Chris Ryan
I liked. I liked Challengers.
Amanda Dobbins
Okay. Yeah, that's.
Chris Ryan
And I like how much he works.
Sean Fenesi
I'll say. 135.
Chris Ryan
I think his prolific 150 is cool.
Amanda Dobbins
Yeah, you don't. But where are you on 165?
Chris Ryan
The peach one?
Amanda Dobbins
Well, that's. Call me by your name, but what about a bigger splash? 175. Love that I am.
Chris Ryan
I feel like I liked Luca Guadagnino before he became Luca Guadagnino.
Amanda Dobbins
Yeah.
Sean Fenesi
Oh, interesting. Punk rocked us. Yeah.
Amanda Dobbins
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, guess what? I like it all. So.
Sean Fenesi
I said 165.
Amanda Dobbins
I said 175.
Sean Fenesi
185.
Amanda Dobbins
Okay.
Sean Fenesi
I think this is a big awards contender in what could be a soft year.
Amanda Dobbins
Sure.
Sean Fenesi
Now, Luca, he does make movies, and people are like, I don't like this.
Amanda Dobbins
Yeah. But that's fine. I do 200.
Sean Fenesi
Okay. 210.
Amanda Dobbins
Did you like. He did the Suspiria, right?
Sean Fenesi
Yeah, he did.
Chris Ryan
Which I did.
Amanda Dobbins
You like that?
Chris Ryan
No, I didn't.
Amanda Dobbins
Okay. All right.
Chris Ryan
Well, no, not in a mean way.
Sean Fenesi
Because of Dakota.
Chris Ryan
I was just being definitive.
Amanda Dobbins
Okay.
Sean Fenesi
Because that's story centered women.
Chris Ryan
Or.
Sean Fenesi
What was the. What was the issue?
Chris Ryan
There wasn't an William Walden.
Amanda Dobbins
220.
Sean Fenesi
230.
Amanda Dobbins
240.
Sean Fenesi
Do you think Julia will be better or worse than she was in Larry Crown in this movie?
Chris Ryan
You guys are in the twos for this.
Amanda Dobbins
So I'm in 240. Yeah, I.
Sean Fenesi
This is one of the big dramas of the year.
Amanda Dobbins
I am a lifetime Luca guy, really.
Chris Ryan
Gesticulating at me, and I was just like, you know, this is a Netflix film. So the BO Is out.
Sean Fenesi
No, it's not. It's an Amazon MGM film getting a theatrical release.
Amanda Dobbins
Just like your disinterest has been wafting towards me about Julia and about Luca and about, you know, men and women.
Chris Ryan
Very dismissive of Denis Villeneuve's early work.
Amanda Dobbins
You know, that's not true.
Sean Fenesi
You should be forced to watch Enemy every six months just so you understand what it's like to be a man in this world.
Amanda Dobbins
Do I have it right now? Yeah, I have 240 is what I have.
Sean Fenesi
I'll say 250.
Amanda Dobbins
260.
Sean Fenesi
I haven't even been using the Board. The board is so helpful.
Amanda Dobbins
Okay.
Sean Fenesi
You went right to 260.
Amanda Dobbins
So Andrew Garfield, Monica Barbaro. Where are you guys on this? They were women.
Chris Ryan
They're both in the Sam Altman movie.
Amanda Dobbins
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Chris Ryan
They're working together.
Amanda Dobbins
I know, but they.
Sean Fenesi
Did you see. Yes. Very dramatically photographed at Wimbledon. Yes.
Amanda Dobbins
And they were canoodling in the. I don't know whether it was the Royal Box or one of the.
Chris Ryan
Olivia Rodrigo is with a guy or she's just. Is she into a tennis player? There was like a video of her being like, ooh.
Amanda Dobbins
No. But I think she. She was there with someone. She was on a date.
Sean Fenesi
I think you're just noting that she was also at Wimbledon. It had nothing to do with Andrew Garfield.
Chris Ryan
I'm just talking about celebrities at wool. Right.
Amanda Dobbins
Okay.
Chris Ryan
There's not a lot of sports on right now.
Amanda Dobbins
Yeah.
Sean Fenesi
Is that hard for you?
Chris Ryan
I mean, I like the Phillies, but it just takes me a long time to first place.
Amanda Dobbins
Why are they. What's up? I understand that like Sunday night baseball or whatever and there's like only the one game, but it like yesterday at 4:30, the end of a holiday weekend. I like, you know, we try not to put too. Too much screen time for the kids but like sports don't count. So I was like, give me something, give me anything. And there was just like nothing on. We got to expand the program.
Sean Fenesi
It's a travel day for baseball. Like so usually you get a lot of day games on Sunday so that people can travel on Sunday.
Amanda Dobbins
I know, but like just for. Until football starts, you know, there's a window.
Sean Fenesi
I love an afternoon ball game.
Chris Ryan
I agree.
Amanda Dobbins
I couldn't even get like a restream of the Wimbledon that I wasn't awake for.
Sean Fenesi
Might have been a lot of west coast teams on the East Coast.
Chris Ryan
Oh, you can get it on ESPN plus.
Amanda Dobbins
Oh, okay. But I. If I don't have that, I'm insulted at this point because of how much I'm paying. So.
Sean Fenesi
Fair enough. I'm going to let you have after the hunt.
Amanda Dobbins
Okay, great.
Sean Fenesi
I'm so excited. I know that you would like to have that.
Amanda Dobbins
Really hope that I get to see Julia Roberts on the red carpet at Venice. But I don't want to meet her. I already met her once. It was great and very stressful and that's enough for a lifetime. It was stressful.
Sean Fenesi
She was super normal and nice. She was wonderful.
Amanda Dobbins
She was the best. But I don't. I was stressed.
Sean Fenesi
I asked her about Larry Crown. She answered my question deeply.
Amanda Dobbins
Asked her about dancing on store pants.
Sean Fenesi
Okay. You now have to have to pick a movie.
Amanda Dobbins
Okay. Wow. All right, so I got the Luca.
Sean Fenesi
Is this, like, an exciting slate for the rest of the year?
Chris Ryan
What do you think? I'm not seeing a lot of box office pop.
Sean Fenesi
Well, that would lead to you having to pick a movie that maybe we're unsure about now. I think I had a rule, at least for myself, that I wouldn't draft something that I've already seen.
Amanda Dobbins
Right.
Sean Fenesi
So that takes a couple things off the board for me. Of note. Not a lot, but it does not take off. For example, Superman.
Amanda Dobbins
Okay.
Sean Fenesi
Or the Fantastic Four. I don't think I haven't seen either of those.
Amanda Dobbins
I'm not gonna draft Superman.
Chris Ryan
Do you think that we're getting away from, like, just expressing enthusiasm for certain movies if we put too much emphasis on box office? No, I guess not. We're fine.
Sean Fenesi
What do you. What do you like too much in the game, you mean? Yeah, no, I think it's a component of the show.
Amanda Dobbins
We're doing Snake. Right. So I have to do two Jack. Yeah. Jack is nodding. Oh, okay. Can we do Snake?
Chris Ryan
It doesn't matter.
Amanda Dobbins
We don't have to because we're forbidding. So I'm trying to clarify on do.
Sean Fenesi
I remember if we did that?
Amanda Dobbins
Okay, well, what would you like to do today, Sean?
Sean Fenesi
Let's live in the moment you've just gotten. After the hunt, I need you to be a little bit kinder in this experience and just consider warmth. Consider reaching out across the aisle from the Marjorie Taylor Greene seat to the side of good.
Amanda Dobbins
I don't think that's funny.
Sean Fenesi
Well, unfortunately, you're alone in that. There are millions at home just thinking of themselves.
Amanda Dobbins
Okay.
Chris Ryan
They're having a good chuckle.
Amanda Dobbins
Well, I'm glad. Everyone needs laughter, I guess. Okay, let's make it interesting.
Sean Fenesi
Wow.
Amanda Dobbins
100 bucks. Avatar, fire and whatever. I don't even know the full name.
Sean Fenesi
Fire and ash.
Chris Ryan
Okay, I'm gonna go buck 20. I never seen an Avatar movie, so why not start?
Amanda Dobbins
What? Really?
Chris Ryan
I think I saw a little bit of the first one.
Sean Fenesi
There's only been two.
Amanda Dobbins
Yeah, but you didn't. You didn't go.
Chris Ryan
No, couldn't care less. It just seems like an incredibly giant waste of resources and talent. Honestly, the dumbest I've ever seen is getting Sam Worthington as a 6 foot 5 small forward who'd breath underwater. Give me a break. Are you kidding me? This is one of the greatest filmmakers we've ever seen who has wasted his life making these movies, huh? The. The dumbest idea.
Amanda Dobbins
I just. I agree with this.
Chris Ryan
I'm 47. I don't have the time to learn all this new shit.
Amanda Dobbins
But also.
Chris Ryan
Yes, but I need a box office hit. So I'm gonna go 140 and I'm gonna see this. I'm gonna see fire and ash. Because I am.
Amanda Dobbins
But you're not gonna see the other two.
Chris Ryan
I've become more interested in fire the older I get. And ash. So I think that also. Who's new in this?
Sean Fenesi
Winslet.
Chris Ryan
Was she in the last one?
Sean Fenesi
She was.
Chris Ryan
Recording her breath.
Sean Fenesi
But you think that these movies are stupid, but you haven't seen any of them.
Chris Ryan
I know what they're about, though. I've seen most of one.
Amanda Dobbins
Can you guess?
Sean Fenesi
You have to love James Cameron. You wouldn't even try it.
Chris Ryan
A giant betrayal of his.
Sean Fenesi
You haven't seen the movie.
Chris Ryan
Okay, fine. Sean, is it good?
Sean Fenesi
Of course it's good.
Chris Ryan
Okay, outside of the visual aspect, the. The.
Amanda Dobbins
The technological achievement, I mean, they're ecological fables. It's fun. Yeah, we like the Earth. What do you think the world record is for holding her breath?
Chris Ryan
That seven minutes.
Amanda Dobbins
That's seven minutes, 15 seconds. Okay, that was. I was hoping you would guess.
Chris Ryan
Like, I usually get seven minutes. The way you fight record time.
Sean Fenesi
Same is.
Chris Ryan
Is take what you can do and multiply it by three.
Amanda Dobbins
Okay, so you can do two minutes. You think? Yeah.
Sean Fenesi
Oh, God. I couldn't get close to that at this point.
Chris Ryan
Yeah, it's been a while, but I could. I think I could do two minutes.
Amanda Dobbins
I gotta tell you. So I do, like, test it out. I. No, bring in the water tank.
Sean Fenesi
Waterboard.
Amanda Dobbins
Chris. No, but I do the. You know, the ice cubes. The thing.
Sean Fenesi
Yeah, Paul Newman.
Amanda Dobbins
Yeah, the Paul Newman thing.
Chris Ryan
Because you're hungover.
Amanda Dobbins
No. Well, I started doing it when I was pregnant because skin health, very swollen, but. But no.
Chris Ryan
Wellness just takes over all the cool shit.
Sean Fenesi
I agree. This is for guys who want to drink nine scotches. This is not for women who need to glow on YouTube.
Amanda Dobbins
It is. Suddenly we got, like, at 9:30am Record time. I'm like, fuck, I'm 40. I'm on YouTube. I need to dunk my head in a bucket of ice water. But I couldn't even make it to counting to 30 this morning. Now it is very cold, cold water. It is true. So. So you would. You think you can do two minutes at, like, average?
Chris Ryan
I think so.
Amanda Dobbins
Okay.
Chris Ryan
I think so.
Sean Fenesi
What did you think of the fact that William Holden's face looked like an old Shoe in. In the Wild Bunch. Just like a guy who'd been left in the sun for several years.
Chris Ryan
I forgot about the flashback scenes in Wild Bunch and the fact that they're like, let's just shave his mustache. That means he's young.
Sean Fenesi
There's a black, like, pomade in his hair. You know, that shoe shine. Okay. Is it 140? Yeah, 140. I'll say 150. I mean, these movies are good. They're obviously very flawed by.
Chris Ryan
Is he still making 5?
Sean Fenesi
Simplistic. N. Nature of the fable. He says that, but that seems unlikely.
Amanda Dobbins
But now he's also making, you know, Oppenheimer 2.
Chris Ryan
Yeah, yeah, I'll do 170.
Sean Fenesi
So you. You're not gonna watch the first two films, but you will watch this one? Well, maybe it's gonna be confusing.
Chris Ryan
It'll be good. Fall project is to get into. I. I think I got it broadly, you know, that human beings are jacked into this different world. Right, right, right. They have, like, a little thing in their back.
Sean Fenesi
I don't want to spoil it for you. I mean, things evolve around the technology is what I'll tell you.
Chris Ryan
All right, so the second one is more surfing underwater, right?
Sean Fenesi
Yeah, yeah.
Chris Ryan
And then the third one, we're gonna go.
Amanda Dobbins
What is the other aspect?
Sean Fenesi
The. The. The people from Earth who want to take over the land, which is Giovanni.
Amanda Dobbins
Oh, I forgot about them. Yeah.
Chris Ryan
Is she good?
Sean Fenesi
She is, yeah. Well. But, yeah, I don't want to. But there's something complicated that, you know, weird. The second one is quite strange and really good, but also not rewatchable.
Chris Ryan
Okay, I'll watch it for the first time.
Amanda Dobbins
Can you watch it on one of the things. Those still happening?
Sean Fenesi
You can still buy them, but they're not. They didn't really take off as a consumer product.
Amanda Dobbins
It was pretty heavy. You'll. You need to get a neck support. Okay, so do you need. You need a second box? We need two box offices.
Sean Fenesi
We need. Well, the old rules were where you needed two movies to GROSS More than $100 million.
Amanda Dobbins
Okay.
Sean Fenesi
But the only way to score points now is to have a high grosser. Now, this is a good pick. I'll say 180, by the way. This would be a good pick because these movies always make a billion dollars. They always make hundreds of millions of dollars in the United States.
Amanda Dobbins
But he has sinners.
Sean Fenesi
He has sinners.
Amanda Dobbins
So. But he needs another.
Sean Fenesi
Well, it's just a point total, I.
Chris Ryan
Think also the fact that there's a lot of, like, streaming stuff. Stuff or A lot of the, the critic stuff, as Sean pointed out with, with Netflix, might not get any box office. Who knows? Like, it could come and go. Like, one of the problems of those streaming. Streaming movies is sometimes it's like, oh, it's. It just, just happened. Just out.
Sean Fenesi
Yes. You've also got to consider what's going to be the highest grossing domestic film.
Amanda Dobbins
190.
Sean Fenesi
Yeah, I'll say 200. I think we should. I mean, this is an important movie to the movie year.
Chris Ryan
Yeah, yeah.
Sean Fenesi
And not to Cameron's legacy or anything, but these movies always get a ton of Academy Award nominations.
Chris Ryan
So I think it would be more helpful for him for the Academy Awards if he promised this would be the last one and it would be more helpful to me.
Sean Fenesi
That's fair.
Amanda Dobbins
Okay.
Chris Ryan
Because I. It's a big difference between me being like, I'll catch up on three of these and. And have like a more well informed opinion versus this is going to be a fiver because I'm out.
Sean Fenesi
So this is a. This is kind of similar to where the first two Lord of the Rings movies were, in my opinion, where like the last film got best Picture and then just sound, production, design and visual effects. Will this movie get more nominations? Less. Is it actually a series contender for picture? I don't know. I will say. You didn't see the footage from this, right?
Amanda Dobbins
No, I left.
Chris Ryan
You were like, it's mind blowing, right?
Sean Fenesi
I mean, I thought it was fucking amazing. Now I already like these movies and I love them visually, but obviously fire is a different element applied to the story. And I thought it just looked really, really cool. So I'm very excited about this.
Chris Ryan
I'll go 210.
Amanda Dobbins
I guess I'll go 220.
Sean Fenesi
I'll say 230.
Chris Ryan
I'll do 240.
Sean Fenesi
Wow. I'll do 250. This is a movie I want to see. There's actually not a ton of movies on this list that I'm like, I really want to see this in a big movie theater.
Amanda Dobbins
I mean, if we're applying that, then I don't really. I don't really want to see it that much. I mean, I will.
Sean Fenesi
I'm sure that's not the only metric. That's not for me personally. I like to have movies on my slate that I want to see.
Amanda Dobbins
I respect Big Jim, but also, you know, I'm kind of with Chris on this. I just like, also how much time we've collectively spent.
Sean Fenesi
Would you be like, if he was making another alien movie? Would you be happy about that?
Amanda Dobbins
I guess.
Sean Fenesi
True lies too. So, I mean, it's like think of the alternative. He created new ip. This is a new story.
Amanda Dobbins
Sure.
Chris Ryan
Does anybody like, oh, I can't wait to iterate off of the Avatar story?
Sean Fenesi
No, I just mean it's an. It's an original event movie. It's the hardest thing to do in.
Amanda Dobbins
The world with their braids.
Sean Fenesi
That's how they communicate and mate.
Amanda Dobbins
That is how they made.
Sean Fenesi
Yeah, okay.
Chris Ryan
I knew that part probably because I.
Sean Fenesi
Told you one time when we were about to watch a movie about two guys getting ready to kill each other. So here's what happens.
Chris Ryan
Chris.
Sean Fenesi
Like their hair, like, intertwines. I'll happily take this movie for 250.
Chris Ryan
260. Okay, you're getting annoyed because you think I'm beating you up, but I'm not. I am interested.
Sean Fenesi
You put it on the board. Yeah, I'll say.270. I would like to see it. How many noms did the first film get?
Chris Ryan
275, but you're going to jump up there.
Sean Fenesi
9. Nine nominations for the first film.
Chris Ryan
Not so many for the second.
Sean Fenesi
280. I'll say the second.
Amanda Dobbins
You're what's wrong with Hollywood, though.
Sean Fenesi
What do you mean? I'm what's wrong with. With Hollywood. Proclaim that Jurassic World Rebirth was good on a publicly.
Chris Ryan
That was about.
Amanda Dobbins
Didn't say it was. Didn't say it was good. I said it was not bad and I had fun.
Sean Fenesi
Yeah, fun. Which is code for I've turned my brain off and I expect less.
Amanda Dobbins
Yeah, but you do that all the time. It's just when you do it about, you know, genre movies that you like.
Sean Fenesi
Yep.
Amanda Dobbins
It's fine.
Sean Fenesi
Yeah. They call it. They call it taste. And when I do it, it's called taste.
Amanda Dobbins
I have the best taste of anyone, you know Know, it's like. It's actually incredible how good my taste is. Do you think you.
Chris Ryan
I don't want to get into this actually, so I'll do 290.
Amanda Dobbins
Ooh.
Sean Fenesi
300.
Chris Ryan
Well, I'll step out. I'll step there. I wanted to get you high.
Sean Fenesi
High up there, not 3,000. Come on, guys. 300.
Amanda Dobbins
Okay. Congratulations.
Sean Fenesi
Thank you. Thank you. I feel good about this. I feel like I needed this.
Amanda Dobbins
Okay.
Sean Fenesi
I don't really have another, so I.
Amanda Dobbins
Need to do another one.
Sean Fenesi
Big box office winner. I don't. Maybe it'll get good reviews.
Chris Ryan
Wait, who put up Avatar? Him.
Amanda Dobbins
No, I did, but do I have the snake or not? I don't care.
Chris Ryan
No, you got it. Are there two?
Amanda Dobbins
Are there not?
Chris Ryan
You're right. You're doing a great job so far.
Amanda Dobbins
Thank you so much.
Chris Ryan
Like, obviously have the best taste of any human being on planet Earth.
Amanda Dobbins
I just, you know.
Sean Fenesi
So Avatar had an 83 Metacritic score. And Avatar, the of water had a 67 Metacritic score.
Amanda Dobbins
Yeah.
Chris Ryan
You think it's going to rebound?
Sean Fenesi
Probably not, but you never know. Hopefully it's not in the 50s.
Amanda Dobbins
What should I do? I mean, some of these movies look good. You know, it's a bold stance. I'm open to them. Let's see.
Sean Fenesi
Did you see the Knicks are strongly considering Ben Simmons.
Amanda Dobbins
Oh, my God.
Chris Ryan
Good luck with that.
Amanda Dobbins
Really? Lol.
Chris Ryan
That's funny.
Amanda Dobbins
Even I know that's funny. Even I know that guy.
Chris Ryan
You guys are getting dark. Little too much right now.
Sean Fenesi
Oh, yeah.
Chris Ryan
Don't get too ahead of yourselves. As someone who's been there, presumptive Eastern Conference finalists, etc, as I recall, you.
Sean Fenesi
Have not been to the Eastern Conference finals.
Chris Ryan
Just. Just enjoy what happened last year is all I'm saying.
Sean Fenesi
Okay. Yeah.
Amanda Dobbins
What's this Ramy Malik movie? I mean, not that I'm gonna check.
Sean Fenesi
Oh, my God.
Amanda Dobbins
I'm really not gonna do that.
Sean Fenesi
The contracts of your biggest stars.
Chris Ryan
Yeah, I'm well aware of. We're in a transition phase. We're moving towards a younger generation of players while still having some veteran leadership in the building.
Amanda Dobbins
$75. Roofman.
Sean Fenesi
Roofman.
Amanda Dobbins
Yeah.
Chris Ryan
Derek, Sean, Fritz.
Amanda Dobbins
Yeah. Yeah.
Chris Ryan
They put a lot of this movie in the trailer. Just gonna say that.
Amanda Dobbins
Okay.
Chris Ryan
I felt like. Yeah, but I thought it looked cool and. And fun. And I love Derrick and France a lot. Everything from his dick sporting goods commercials to place beyond the Pines. So I'm gonna bid 80 bucks.
Amanda Dobbins
Okay.
Sean Fenesi
$85. This will almost certainly be a fun time at the movies. Will it be a good time at the movies?
Amanda Dobbins
Oh, boy, here we go.
Sean Fenesi
We don't know.
Amanda Dobbins
Concern troll. Sean.
Sean Fenesi
We don't know. I think so.
Amanda Dobbins
Yeah.
Sean Fenesi
Good star.
Chris Ryan
Channing Tatum.
Sean Fenesi
Good cast.
Amanda Dobbins
It was Chris who did 85, right? Yeah, Chris was 85.
Sean Fenesi
I think Chris went to 80, and I went to 80.
Amanda Dobbins
Oh, you went to 85. Oh, great. Oh, that was fast. 90. Sure.
Sean Fenesi
Kirsten Dunst. Yes.
Chris Ryan
Who's the other guy? Is there another guy in it?
Sean Fenesi
Plenty. No, I believe it's. Oh, my God. Tyrion from Lord of the Rings.
Chris Ryan
Oh, Dinklage.
Sean Fenesi
Dinklage. Not Lord of the Rings from Game of Thrones. Peter Dinklage is in it. Who else?
Amanda Dobbins
Ben Mendelsohn is in it.
Sean Fenesi
Of course, of course. Gotta be in him.
Amanda Dobbins
Lakeith Stanfield, Juno Temple, Ben Mendelsohn in.
Chris Ryan
Place beyond the pines. Holy shit, man.
Amanda Dobbins
Yeah.
Sean Fenesi
Yeah. The only thing that's better is him and killing me softly.
Chris Ryan
That's true. Did you ever watch Andor?
Sean Fenesi
No.
Chris Ryan
Remember you're gonna watch that on the plane when you went to Atlanta?
Amanda Dobbins
No, what happened? What'd you watch on the plane instead?
Sean Fenesi
I had no Internet on the way there and I forgot to download it.
Amanda Dobbins
Okay.
Sean Fenesi
I probably watched a movie on the seat. Yeah, I'm trying to think of what. I could probably look it up if you'd like. If you'd like to vamp.
Amanda Dobbins
Okay, but. So it wasn't andor I didn't. I haven't done Andor yet either. I have a lot of catch up.
Sean Fenesi
The less said about my trip to Atlanta, the better in my opinion.
Amanda Dobbins
Except for the lovely people that you met, right?
Sean Fenesi
Honestly, the people were awesome. Yeah, I really had a nice time chatting with strangers there.
Amanda Dobbins
But everything else I got into andor I'm behind on it just like that. Now I got to finish the bear.
Sean Fenesi
You know what I watched.
Chris Ryan
I gotta tell you something, Amanda. Honestly. Go ahead, Snow White.
Amanda Dobbins
Okay?
Chris Ryan
We have to have a serious conversation about what's going on with Carrie and Miranda on this fucking show.
Amanda Dobbins
Oh, okay. I know I have to catch up, but it almost got spoiled for me. Apparently they like, accidentally. They've killed someone twice now or something. I don't really know what's going. There are plot holes. Listen, I'm gonna do it tonight, okay? He is going to see the new Spike Lee film with my husband. And I am staying home, preparing a zucchini pasta and watching it just like that. Okay, so that's.
Sean Fenesi
Women can't have it all.
Amanda Dobbins
Face mask. I honestly was thinking about it. It's maybe time for my Manuka honey face mask again.
Sean Fenesi
So this is a huge night.
Chris Ryan
This is incredible.
Sean Fenesi
A real roofman night. $95 for roofman.
Amanda Dobbins
You don't have feelings.
Sean Fenesi
I think Roofman will get any Oscar noms.
Chris Ryan
I don't know where I'm at with Channing right now.
Sean Fenesi
He is actually weirdly, in what I'll call the Statham Zone, which is that he has a fan base that will kind of get him to $30 million at the box office pretty much every.
Chris Ryan
Time he's like, yeah, I made a movie with the dog.
Sean Fenesi
People are like, that seems cool. In this movie, he plays a bank robber who's incarcerated, breaks out and then holes up, holes up. Hides out in a Toys r Us?
Amanda Dobbins
Yeah.
Sean Fenesi
Toys R Us. Probably the single most exciting place in the universe to me from the ages of 1 to 9.
Amanda Dobbins
Were you a Toys R Us person? Chris Ryan?
Chris Ryan
I was, but.
Amanda Dobbins
Wow. See, I knew. I knew that this was.
Chris Ryan
Yeah, I was.
Sean Fenesi
Until you discovered hip hop.
Amanda Dobbins
What toys did you lifeguarding?
Chris Ryan
Star wars dolls. Like Star wars action figures.
Amanda Dobbins
I will.
Chris Ryan
And transformers.
Amanda Dobbins
I'll do 100 for Roofman. I listen. And that's all for Kiki. 99 of my hundred dollars is for Kirsten Dunst.
Chris Ryan
Okay.
Amanda Dobbins
And then the other one.
Chris Ryan
But she didn't support her in Civil War.
Sean Fenesi
Interesting how that shook out.
Amanda Dobbins
Alex Garland didn't support her, you know.
Chris Ryan
Yes, he did.
Amanda Dobbins
It's true.
Sean Fenesi
He put her in her. The biggest box office hit of her career.
Amanda Dobbins
Is that true? Even beyond even.
Chris Ryan
He said Bring it On.
Sean Fenesi
Definitely bigger than Bring it on. Let's look rude. Well, bring it on as more of a cult hit.
Amanda Dobbins
That's true. But what an achievement it is.
Sean Fenesi
Was she ever in a big franchise movie? She must have been.
Chris Ryan
Are we giving this to Amanda?
Sean Fenesi
Sure.
Amanda Dobbins
Okay.
Sean Fenesi
Well, of course she was in Spider Man. What am I thinking?
Amanda Dobbins
Yeah.
Chris Ryan
You got two of the movies that I feel like are very You. You.
Amanda Dobbins
Thank you.
Chris Ryan
Oriented. You coded.
Sean Fenesi
Thank you so much.
Chris Ryan
I guess. Sean, then you're up.
Sean Fenesi
Yes, I'm up. She was. She was in. Here are her biggest box office hits. Just for the sake of conversation. The three Spider man movies, of course. Hidden Figures.
Amanda Dobbins
Oh, yeah.
Sean Fenesi
In which she supported.
Amanda Dobbins
Yeah. She's the racist administrator at the. At Nashville.
Chris Ryan
Kirsten Dunst is a racist in that movie.
Amanda Dobbins
In the movie. In the movie. And then. But then Glenn Powell as John Glenn is not.
Sean Fenesi
This is really interesting.
Chris Ryan
You know, where she wasn't racist.
Amanda Dobbins
Kevin Costner is on the case. And then.
Sean Fenesi
So. So you were right about something.
Amanda Dobbins
Yeah.
Sean Fenesi
Interview with the vampire comes next. Then Jumanji.
Amanda Dobbins
Yeah.
Sean Fenesi
Then Civil War, but only by $400,000. About Bring It On.
Amanda Dobbins
Okay. And is that adjusted for inflation?
Sean Fenesi
No, it is not. But you gotta if you want to consider international.
Amanda Dobbins
Great hair. The boys all loved his dare. That's right. Yeah. Incredible film. When will you show it to Alice? When can I show it to Alice?
Sean Fenesi
Us. That feels a little early.
Amanda Dobbins
Okay.
Sean Fenesi
I would say for Bring It On.
Amanda Dobbins
Sure. Four this week lessons, you know.
Sean Fenesi
Yeah, absolutely. I support them.
Amanda Dobbins
What were your favorite toys at Toys R Us? So Star Wars. That's it.
Chris Ryan
BMX bikes.
Amanda Dobbins
Okay.
Sean Fenesi
Huh.
Amanda Dobbins
Do you know what a Tamagotchi is?
Chris Ryan
I do.
Amanda Dobbins
Okay. You don't have to say it like that.
Chris Ryan
No, I just Do.
Amanda Dobbins
All right.
Chris Ryan
Have you started introducing those to the house?
Amanda Dobbins
No, I jacked it know. So I had to explain what Tamagotchi are. You know about Labubus?
Chris Ryan
I heard it referenced recently. I don't know what that is though.
Amanda Dobbins
It's a bag charm. That's like. But they're Beanie baby gotcha level prices and interest.
Chris Ryan
Kids put stuff on Crocs and bags now. Charms I saw.
Sean Fenesi
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Chris Ryan
Remember when we used to wear Jordans instead of Crocs?
Sean Fenesi
You know, used to still wearing Jordans.
Amanda Dobbins
Knox has Jordans. He hasn't shown you his Jordans? No, he likes to say Jordans, but the way he says ours, like, very weird. Still because he's my son, it's like I'm wearing Jordans. That's Michael Jordan.
Sean Fenesi
Okay, I'll have to speak to him about that. $50 for weapons.
Chris Ryan
$150.
Sean Fenesi
$150.
Amanda Dobbins
Oh, here we go.
Chris Ryan
Come on.
Sean Fenesi
This is the second, I guess Techn. The third feature film from Zack Kreger. First since Barbarian.
Chris Ryan
This is the movie I'm most excited to see this. This not one battle after another.
Sean Fenesi
But otherwise this is number one. Yeah, after one battle after another.
Chris Ryan
Number two.
Sean Fenesi
I see not Springsteen delivering me from nowhere.
Chris Ryan
We. We'll talk about that in a bit.
Sean Fenesi
$200.
Amanda Dobbins
Okay, game on.
Chris Ryan
Did you check out the viral website that they made for this this?
Sean Fenesi
I did not.
Chris Ryan
I didn't yet either.
Amanda Dobbins
Do it right now. Weapons movie website.
Sean Fenesi
Well, loves to spoil.
Chris Ryan
We're just two guys trying to stay in a state of wonder.
Sean Fenesi
I was super mad when the trailer started for this.
Amanda Dobbins
I'm not trying to stay in a state of wonder. Oh, hold on this. I. I honestly can't now. I'm really sorry. Like, it's. This is. I. I'm sure it's a really good movie. No disrespect to Zack Kreger. It just like. I. No, thanks. Topic wise.
Chris Ryan
$225.
Amanda Dobbins
Okay. I think that you are. You're both. If this pops, you handle your. Your issues in different ways and that's okay.
Sean Fenesi
What issues? I just want to be excited. I just want to sit down and feel deep.
Chris Ryan
I want to be dominated by film.
Amanda Dobbins
Yeah. All right.
Sean Fenesi
Zack Kreger, put on a high heel and step on Chris's neck.
Chris Ryan
225. Is that what I have?
Sean Fenesi
Yes.
Chris Ryan
Where does he go after this if this is. If this blows up?
Sean Fenesi
He already signed up to do Resident Evil.
Chris Ryan
That's cool.
Sean Fenesi
He's doing Resident Evil.
Chris Ryan
Mikey Madison in that.
Sean Fenesi
I believe she. What did she turn. She turned down Star wars for that. To do that. Is that true?
Chris Ryan
I mean, I think in this she was just going to be like, looking at Ryan Gosling and being like, you're so cool.
Amanda Dobbins
Well, show me the last. I.
Sean Fenesi
Would you do that?
Chris Ryan
They're not going to rush.
Amanda Dobbins
Would I stare at Sean Levy calls you. I would giggle. I, like, I couldn't do it. I would just giggle if it were ryan Gosling.
Sean Fenesi
Monday, 9am yeah. You've just removed your face from an ice cold bowl.
Chris Ryan
You reek of zucchini from the night before.
Sean Fenesi
You're covered in pasta. Children are crawling all over you, and Shawn Levy says, good morning, Amanda. Yes, I'm glad you have awoken. You may still feel as though you were sleeping because I am the dream.
Chris Ryan
You have beautiful skin.
Amanda Dobbins
Thank you.
Chris Ryan
I think you would be great next to Ryan Gosling.
Sean Fenesi
You will. You will only be on your knees for the entirety of this film, but you will be genuflecting in the general direction of our star Jedi, Ryan Gosling in the first new Star wars feature film in seven years.
Amanda Dobbins
Two follow up questions. Am I allowed to ask follow up questions of Shawn Levy?
Sean Fenesi
I don't know. I'm not sure.
Amanda Dobbins
Is it like a Miranda Priestly situation?
Sean Fenesi
I don't know. I can't say for sure.
Amanda Dobbins
Number one, where. Where are we filming?
Chris Ryan
Probably Turkey or like Hungaria. Hungarian?
Amanda Dobbins
Hungary.
Chris Ryan
Hungary.
Sean Fenesi
Hungaria.
Amanda Dobbins
No, in England.
Chris Ryan
England.
Sean Fenesi
We're shooting in England.
Chris Ryan
Pinewood.
Sean Fenesi
Yeah, we're shooting at Pinewood.
Amanda Dobbins
Okay. Open to that. Number two, what's, you know, what's the money?
Sean Fenesi
Your salary is 88 bucks.
Chris Ryan
Interesting money. Your. Your money, huh?
Amanda Dobbins
Yeah.
Sean Fenesi
No, your salary Is whatever is remaining from your draft late?
Chris Ryan
No.
Sean Fenesi
Your salary is more than scale but less than an a. A list Star.
Chris Ryan
Yeah.
Sean Fenesi
You're getting $800,000 to do this, but you have to turn over two plus years of your lives, including re shoots.
Amanda Dobbins
For so $800,000 for two years. So 400k a year if you want.
Sean Fenesi
To break it down like that. Sure. That's not how it works in the movie biz.
Amanda Dobbins
I understand that, but that is factor in. I'm. I'm.
Chris Ryan
You need to like business mom.
Amanda Dobbins
Okay, I got it.
Sean Fenesi
So you got to.
Chris Ryan
You've got to promote the film 10% to your representation, you know?
Amanda Dobbins
Right, right, right. You got it. Talking 10%, that's.
Sean Fenesi
That's low.
Amanda Dobbins
Are you handling all of my kids and like, my family's like, housing Star Wars.
Sean Fenesi
You don't. You don't have leverage to negotiate?
Amanda Dobbins
No.
Chris Ryan
Okay.
Amanda Dobbins
Okay.
Sean Fenesi
You're turning it down on the face of that.
Amanda Dobbins
Yeah. I can't go to. I can't go stare at rising Ryan Gosling for two years without my children.
Sean Fenesi
It's great timing because I've just gotten word that in Atlanta they will greenlight the Mother's Day screening that we discussed because of your response to that question. So congratulations. Well done. 250.
Chris Ryan
260.
Sean Fenesi
We're still bidding on weapons. 270. I'd really like to see it. I would like to show it to me. I don't know why I haven't been shown this film. I'm just gonna put that out there right now.
Amanda Dobbins
Okay.
Chris Ryan
Did you ever watch Ozark?
Amanda Dobbins
No, but I listened to you talk about it quite.
Chris Ryan
And you know the Julia Garner meme?
Amanda Dobbins
Which one?
Chris Ryan
If you want to stop me, you're gonna have to fucking kill me.
Amanda Dobbins
Yeah, I do have that.
Chris Ryan
275. Just a little. Little jab right in the chin right there. Not. Not big. Just like.
Sean Fenesi
You're just gonna draw me out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. And you're hoping that I go for the uppercut only for you to shadow, duck and move.
Chris Ryan
Mike Tyson's knockout. Watch out.
Amanda Dobbins
I'm just thinking about, like, what number I would leave my children for. Well, you know, at some point.
Sean Fenesi
Do you think about that every day?
Amanda Dobbins
No, no, no. It's at some point, then, like, I can handle the. I have. If they give me enough money, then I'll just pay for all the stuff, you know.
Chris Ryan
But Amanda, respectfully, Steel Magnolias too. Julia Roberts comes back as a force ghost. The problem is I'll pay you $2 million, but you have to live in Atlanta for two years.
Amanda Dobbins
Oh, yeah.
Chris Ryan
It's you and Casey Musgraves and I mean, she seems. Julia, Garfield Corner are the new Steel Magnolias.
Sean Fenesi
I love the Casey Musgraves call. That's excellent.
Chris Ryan
But you also have. You can't see your children.
Amanda Dobbins
But in Atlanta they would just stay with their grandparents. No.
Sean Fenesi
Oh, then no. It's a close set.
Amanda Dobbins
Because it's a close set.
Sean Fenesi
So it's very secretive.
Chris Ryan
Yeah. Code name Star Wars.
Sean Fenesi
Yeah.
Chris Ryan
But it's actually still magnolias. Two 285, 300 hundred.
Sean Fenesi
You really want this film? What if you don't like it?
Chris Ryan
It's not possible. It's not. Up, kids. Those kids are up.
Amanda Dobbins
Yeah.
Sean Fenesi
Do we even know that they run around like this?
Chris Ryan
Right.
Sean Fenesi
Well, something was calling to them. Clearly I don't know what it was. Last night at 2:17am Every child from Mrs. Gandy's class woke up, got out of bed, went downstairs, opened the front door, walked into the door dark, and they never came back. You know what that reminds me of? This movie is good, but not great. But when I first saw the commercial on TV for Needful Things, the Stephen King adaptation, I felt alive. That was like one of the first times I can remember feeling like I need to see that now. And I probably didn't see it for some years because it was R rated. And I was like 10 when it came out. But this movie gives me a similar feeling to that commercial. 310.
Amanda Dobbins
Wow.
Chris Ryan
320.
Amanda Dobbins
Okay.
Sean Fenesi
325.
Chris Ryan
335.
Amanda Dobbins
Are you guys gonna be able to see this together?
Chris Ryan
Hopefully.
Sean Fenesi
I think that's the idea.
Amanda Dobbins
That's nice.
Chris Ryan
At 2:17am they should do a 2:17am screening.
Amanda Dobbins
I'm gonna be on Steel Magnolies too.
Sean Fenesi
2:17Am Screening.
Chris Ryan
Yeah.
Sean Fenesi
That's the only time I am able to sleep. So I really can't do it.
Chris Ryan
Then I thought about going to see Jurassic world Rebirth, the 12am screening last week when we were doing that.
Amanda Dobbins
Okay.
Chris Ryan
And I was just like, I don't think I can do that. I don't want to get out of Jurassic World at 2:45am it's crazy.
Sean Fenesi
As recently as two years ago, I was ripping midnight screenings and I just can't do it anymore. It's over.
Amanda Dobbins
Yeah.
Sean Fenesi
It's curtains. Like kid plus aging is just not.
Amanda Dobbins
If it's a tail.
Chris Ryan
But we used to have a stop o' clock on these and yeah, we're hanging out.
Sean Fenesi
It's okay.
Chris Ryan
Okay.
Amanda Dobbins
There's a clock right there.
Sean Fenesi
3:45. 3:45. Chris.
Amanda Dobbins
Chris is like, I want this.
Chris Ryan
355. He's getting me back for bidding him up on Avatar.
Sean Fenesi
365.
Amanda Dobbins
I think you both just really want this. And I think that's beautiful.
Sean Fenesi
This is among my most anticipated movies, at least the year.
Chris Ryan
$400.
Amanda Dobbins
It looked very good.
Sean Fenesi
Wow. $400.
Amanda Dobbins
Well, I mean, what else are you.
Sean Fenesi
Going to bid on Wicked for good?
Amanda Dobbins
I. I won't be.
Sean Fenesi
Can you believe we have to do Wicked for good this year?
Amanda Dobbins
I really cannot.
Chris Ryan
Do you think that that's going to be like the Avatar 2 of Wicked movies where just like, we just agree that we're not going to do it again this year? It's like, are they going to really go through the same cycle again?
Amanda Dobbins
Right.
Chris Ryan
And they're going to play with puppies and talk and cry and I think.
Sean Fenesi
Obviously the core fan base is extremely excited about. About it.
Chris Ryan
Yeah.
Sean Fenesi
And it's going to do good business. Will it be bigger than the last movie is an interesting question.
Amanda Dobbins
Right.
Sean Fenesi
And then will it be able to match? Whatever. Did it have 10 nominations? I can't remember. Maybe. Maybe more.
Amanda Dobbins
Right. And the buzz on it is, of course, that the second half is musical. The songs aren't as good, and it's just.
Chris Ryan
They should take some songs from Nebraska and put it in Wicked for good.
Sean Fenesi
That's a good idea.
Amanda Dobbins
Yeah.
Sean Fenesi
State Trooper. Yeah. Yeah. And that fit in really well. Prince Fiero sings State Trooper. Trooper. That'd be awesome.
Amanda Dobbins
You know, I did think Jonathan Bailey was very good in Jurassic.
Sean Fenesi
He was very good.
Amanda Dobbins
There you go. I was impressed.
Sean Fenesi
I felt like he had real incredible.
Amanda Dobbins
Yeah.
Sean Fenesi
Movie presence.
Amanda Dobbins
Totally.
Sean Fenesi
410.
Chris Ryan
420. Because I'm gonna get high watching weapons, if you know what I mean.
Sean Fenesi
Yeah. You're smoking on that weapons pack. 4:30.
Chris Ryan
Interesting.
Amanda Dobbins
This is expensive. Yeah. Yeah.
Chris Ryan
I think you know that there's no limit for me, and I think you're driving me up.
Sean Fenesi
But for me, the action is the juice.
Chris Ryan
440. 440.
Sean Fenesi
$440 for weapons.
Chris Ryan
420 or 430.
Sean Fenesi
445.
Amanda Dobbins
Okay. But he's showing weakness.
Chris Ryan
465.
Amanda Dobbins
Wow.
Sean Fenesi
You can have it.
Chris Ryan
Okay.
Amanda Dobbins
All right. Can I tell you something? This was smart.
Chris Ryan
Thanks.
Amanda Dobbins
Past drafts or auctions have taught us that we should really. We should spend the money on.
Chris Ryan
You know, what I've gotten, I've done before is where, like, I'm like, I'm just going to equally distribute $50 across five movies. So I. I'm happy I'm really happy with the two films.
Amanda Dobbins
I. I could have used a little more help from you, but personally, how so we'll get there when we get there. But it's okay. I support you. I just. I needed you to take out some cash flow from him. But it's fine. It's fine.
Chris Ryan
Like push up Avatar more.
Amanda Dobbins
No, I needed. If. If he only had $300 left, I would be in a better spot.
Chris Ryan
Oh, I'm sorry.
Amanda Dobbins
But it's okay.
Chris Ryan
Yeah. Is it my turn to pick a film?
Sean Fenesi
I believe it is. I really want to see this movie. I do not think it's a good movie for this game. Game.
Amanda Dobbins
Okay.
Sean Fenesi
Which is not a demerit. And to Chris's point, about are we leaning too much into the box office to suggest quality or something? This movie is the perfect example of probably will not, Almost certainly will not cross $100 million domestically. Could be wrong, but probably not. Will not have an 85 Metacritic score because it's horror and very low likelihood of Oscars. Now, if it gets any of those three things, that probably means it's like fucking amazing.
Amanda Dobbins
Right?
Sean Fenesi
If it goes over 100 million or over 85 or it gets at least one Oscar nomination, that will mean, you know, we have a new M. Night Shyamalan on our hands.
Chris Ryan
Yeah.
Sean Fenesi
Which would be phenomenal. I would love that. So we'll see. But nevertheless, we'll do two hours. Locked. Locked in on the movie in August.
Chris Ryan
Is it my turn to pick a film?
Amanda Dobbins
It is.
Sean Fenesi
Yeah.
Chris Ryan
I'm going to grab or I'm going to nominate. Is this thing on?
Sean Fenesi
On.
Amanda Dobbins
Okay.
Sean Fenesi
Is this gonna come out this year?
Chris Ryan
They say Wikipedia says that Fox Searchlight is eyeing a fall release. We have not heard Hide Her Hair nor seen a still from it. Bradley Cooper's James L. Brooks homage. It sounds like it's about a divorcing couple or a couple whose marriage is falling apart. And the. The man, the husband played by Will Arnett, gets super into the New York City comedy scene. Scene features a bunch of supporting turns from contemporary New York City based comedians like Jordan Jensen, Chloe Radcliffe. Laura Dern is in this. Bradley Cooper is playing a supporting role and directed it and wrote it with Will Arnett, Right?
Sean Fenesi
Yes. This sounds like his punchline.
Chris Ryan
That's exactly what I have in my dock.
Amanda Dobbins
Oh, my God, that's beautiful. Yeah.
Sean Fenesi
The Tom Hanks Sally Field dramedy that I would say is now underage rated was eagerly anticipated, considered a huge disappointment, and now is kind of an interesting character study. Brad Cooper, I think a Damn good filmmaker.
Chris Ryan
And it's a really interesting left turn after Maestro.
Amanda Dobbins
Yeah.
Chris Ryan
Yeah, because he could keep making these sort of great men movies until he finally gets his. I mean, his Oscars.
Sean Fenesi
So.
Amanda Dobbins
Okay, how do you know this isn't a different type?
Chris Ryan
He's a broken man.
Amanda Dobbins
Sure.
Chris Ryan
Who's trying to laugh his way.
Amanda Dobbins
Yeah. Maybe he's going to find his great greatness, you know?
Chris Ryan
What do you think would be your biggest new, like your, your most unexpected new hobby? Were you God forbid to get divorced?
Amanda Dobbins
Oh my God, that's an incredible question. I mean, don't you kind of.
Chris Ryan
I feel like I'm like wnba.
Amanda Dobbins
You mean like not playing?
Chris Ryan
But you should be a WNBA ref.
Amanda Dobbins
I mean, the thing is, is that my sister in law, Ruthie, our beloved Ruthie is, is like a huge ticket holder. So in the divorce, if it's an ugly one at that kind of thing, you get Ruthie. No, no, I think that the, the Barons get the WNBA kind of what I think, you know, I mean, I could be wrong.
Sean Fenesi
WNBA is going to go crazy in my house. It's going to go crazy. Yeah.
Amanda Dobbins
I do feel like I'm in a phase of life where I'm already. It's like I'm doing the divorce hobbies without the divorce. Oh, don't you think.
Sean Fenesi
Skincare, I hope you mean not.
Amanda Dobbins
Oh, no, I don't mean that. I don't mean that.
Sean Fenesi
You gotta be careful with that. Yeah, no, just to be clear, carefully navigate or frame phrasing.
Amanda Dobbins
Okay. No, I. I'm more meant like I'm.
Sean Fenesi
Gonna really get into polyamory, you know?
Amanda Dobbins
Yeah, No, I haven't told you about my like infrared box.
Chris Ryan
Yes, you have.
Amanda Dobbins
Yeah, See, so that sort of thing.
Chris Ryan
Yeah, no free ads, you know, but.
Sean Fenesi
Did you put a dollar amount on? Is, is this thing on?
Chris Ryan
50 bucks.
Amanda Dobbins
Okay, I don't know whether it would be stand up comedy, but maybe I could get into a performance space.
Chris Ryan
You know, I would pay honestly no less than $10,000 to watch you do stand up comedy. You doing crowd work would cause an actual civil disturbance. The first time you got heckled, your.
Sean Fenesi
Fucking head would explode.
Amanda Dobbins
I would like charge the crowd. It would be like a reversible. You're right.
Chris Ryan
Don't let me fucking walk out of here with Bradley Cooper's.
Sean Fenesi
I'll say maestro. I'll say 60 bucks.
Amanda Dobbins
Okay.
Sean Fenesi
Did you see Maestro?
Amanda Dobbins
Yeah.
Sean Fenesi
Did you?
Amanda Dobbins
Yeah.
Sean Fenesi
We never discussed it. I thought it was maybe an Avatar situation. Everyone assumed you'd seen it.
Amanda Dobbins
I'll do 65.
Chris Ryan
I think I've been pretty open about my skepticism of the navi tale. I. This is not like, new, but I am now frustrated, and it didn't really appreciate the shots of Nolan. I thought, like, that was honestly poor form. Make your own movie. Let's see. Let's. Let's try to like.
Sean Fenesi
Wow.
Chris Ryan
Yeah.
Sean Fenesi
Wow. You have really thrown down the gauntlet on Big Jim. Former guest of this show, one of.
Chris Ryan
My favorite filmmakers up until you started making imaginary underwater movies.
Sean Fenesi
Do you like Titan Panic?
Chris Ryan
I thought it was pretty good. I thought it was pretty good. It's a long way to get to that sinking ship. You know what I mean? You got to deal with a lot.
Amanda Dobbins
Of stuff, but you learn a lot, you know?
Chris Ryan
I knew it.
Amanda Dobbins
Okay.
Chris Ryan
I inherently understood. Did you know you knew the challenges of the Irish?
Sean Fenesi
Yeah. How do you feel about class at that time? Do they think we had it right?
Amanda Dobbins
What about art?
Chris Ryan
Oh, like him drawing her?
Amanda Dobbins
Well, no, she was. She was a collective, you know, Billy Zane didn't understand.
Chris Ryan
That's right.
Sean Fenesi
You dedicated that to memory. Him drawing her. She's making a return.
Amanda Dobbins
That's why the payment, like one of your French girls, is one of the great memes.
Sean Fenesi
Yeah.
Amanda Dobbins
Yeah. You know.
Sean Fenesi
Yeah.
Chris Ryan
That's how I feel about VJ Edgecombe painting him and scored 28 in summer league. Where are we?
Sean Fenesi
Amanda has $65 on. Is this thing on? So Searchlight does not really have a major Oscar contender this year other than this movie, if they decide to put it out. Except maybe. I don't think this is going to happen, but the new Martin McDonagh movie is. I think the script is done. It may have started shooting. I can't really tell. It's called Wild Horse nine, and the cast is Sam Rockwell, Malkovich, Steve Buscemi, Parker Posey, and Tom Waits.
Chris Ryan
Geez, is he going back on his seven psychopaths?
Sean Fenesi
It's a. It's a. It's a thriller. It's not a comedy.
Chris Ryan
Cool. 70 bucks. What's up with the James L. Brooks movie? Is that ever coming out?
Sean Fenesi
December?
Amanda Dobbins
Yeah.
Sean Fenesi
Ella McKay.
Chris Ryan
Hey.
Sean Fenesi
Yeah.
Amanda Dobbins
Okay.
Sean Fenesi
That's 20th Century Studios.
Amanda Dobbins
Oh, okay.
Sean Fenesi
Not Searchlight. Even though it feels like a Searchlight movie, I don't. I don't. I really enjoy the two movies that Cooper direct.
Chris Ryan
Me too.
Sean Fenesi
I think Maestro is, like, flawed, but, like, such a fascinating choice.
Chris Ryan
Me, too.
Sean Fenesi
I really wish that that movie would be released on physical media.
Amanda Dobbins
Okay.
Sean Fenesi
That's a quite the first time that.
Chris Ryan
You'Ve said that you should go to his cheesesteak.
Amanda Dobbins
Yes, I was Joking. Do you think that Bradley Cooper is into physical media?
Sean Fenesi
I think he's into collecting stuff.
Amanda Dobbins
Okay. Okay.
Sean Fenesi
So I think he would get it.
Amanda Dobbins
All right.
Sean Fenesi
Maestro was beautifully shot.
Amanda Dobbins
It's. Yeah, it's very beautiful. You know what the standing ovation was for Maestro at Venice? Because it was during the strike.
Chris Ryan
So he couldn't be there.
Amanda Dobbins
He couldn't be there. So it was just Leonard Bernstein's children, like, conducting along for like six minutes while the credits rolled. It was pretty.
Chris Ryan
That's cool.
Amanda Dobbins
I mean, sure.
Sean Fenesi
I'm gonna let you have this.
Amanda Dobbins
Yeah. Okay.
Chris Ryan
I'm fucking killing this driver.
Sean Fenesi
You've got a streaming movie. You've got a horror movie for $500.
Chris Ryan
It's gonna go beyond horror. You know this, you know your bones that. We've been waiting for a movie like.
Sean Fenesi
This to jump out undated. Bradley Cooper, stand up comedy dramedy starring Will Arnett, known box office hero.
Chris Ryan
Okay, well, call me next year.
Amanda Dobbins
And. And mobile entrepreneur anymore, you know.
Sean Fenesi
That's true.
Amanda Dobbins
Yeah.
Sean Fenesi
And. And. And successful podcast host. That's true. And. And his performance in Arrested Development is the funniest comedy performance of the century. So I have nothing bad to say about him. Joe Bluth is the best character on TV in this century. Okay. Is it me?
Chris Ryan
Yeah.
Amanda Dobbins
Wait. Yeah. Chris.
Chris Ryan
Oh, I go twice.
Amanda Dobbins
Another one.
Sean Fenesi
Hmm.
Chris Ryan
I'm gonna do. I'm gonna do. Now you see me, now you don't. AKA NYSM3, which I think actually might be a sneaky big box office movie.
Amanda Dobbins
Okay.
Sean Fenesi
Have you seen either of the first now you see me films?
Amanda Dobbins
I have not.
Sean Fenesi
Okay.
Chris Ryan
I have multiple clips, I think great plane franchises.
Amanda Dobbins
Okay.
Chris Ryan
If you are on a plane, you will find that the hours slip away watching my S M. Okay. Close up magic.
Amanda Dobbins
Yeah.
Chris Ryan
Illusions, plot twists.
Sean Fenesi
I'd like to read a message I received a mention I received on X.com yesterday. It's from a man named David Coursero.
Amanda Dobbins
Okay. Not Superman.
Sean Fenesi
Not Superman. That's David Corn Sweat, AKA Corn Sweeper, as I believe you dubbed him some years ago during the release of the film Twister. David Coursero says. Anyone have Sean Fenasey's email address? I'm trying to invite him to the Magic Castle in early August.
Amanda Dobbins
Oh, wow.
Sean Fenesi
I have not responded to this man. I am calling him out right here on this podcast. He is a magician who does close up magic and is performing. Will you take me at the Magic Castle?
Chris Ryan
Since I just nominated now youw See Me three?
Sean Fenesi
I certainly would. The Magic Castle. One of the most fun places in Los Angeles. And I'M very interested in now youw See Me Colon, now youw Don't. What are you bidding?
Chris Ryan
$30.
Amanda Dobbins
Wow.
Chris Ryan
Value pick.
Sean Fenesi
Will you catch up on these films?
Chris Ryan
Do you want me to tell you.
Amanda Dobbins
When is it coming out of here?
Sean Fenesi
It's August. Right. It looks like.
Chris Ryan
Watch this. And I mean this in a. In a really, the sweetest way I could possibly say this.
Amanda Dobbins
Yeah.
Chris Ryan
It seems like Jesse Eisenberg has had a brain transplant when he's in these movies. Like, it is so unlike anything else he has.
Sean Fenesi
Right.
Amanda Dobbins
But he likes doing them, right?
Chris Ryan
I think so, yeah.
Sean Fenesi
He loves doing them. This movie comes out November 14th.
Amanda Dobbins
Oh, wow.
Sean Fenesi
It's right. Right up against Wicked for Good and Zootopia 2.
Amanda Dobbins
Okay.
Sean Fenesi
The cast. Are you familiar with this? Do you know the premise of this film?
Amanda Dobbins
Well, I do know that Dave Franco is in it because of. I. I mean, I remember that, but his studio.
Chris Ryan
Playing cards at people.
Amanda Dobbins
Okay, what was. What movie is that in where someone throws playing cards at people?
Sean Fenesi
That's what Gambit does. Channing Tatum.
Amanda Dobbins
X Men.
Sean Fenesi
He powers them.
Amanda Dobbins
Maybe we're not allowed to talk about this movie yet. Oh, yeah. No, in F1.
Sean Fenesi
F1.
Amanda Dobbins
I didn't know. Like, they all blur together.
Sean Fenesi
Oh, like into a hat.
Chris Ryan
Dave Franco plays Jack Wilder.
Amanda Dobbins
I know. And he talks about it on his studio recap.
Chris Ryan
Jesse Eisenberg plays J. Daniel Atlas.
Sean Fenesi
Danny Atlas.
Chris Ryan
Danny Atlas.
Sean Fenesi
Kind of an homage to Danny Ocean.
Chris Ryan
And then Woody Harrelson plays Merritt McKinney. And Ela Fisher is now.
Sean Fenesi
Isla Fisher has been in all the.
Chris Ryan
Films Lizzy Caplan was in.
Sean Fenesi
She was in two.
Chris Ryan
She was in two.
Amanda Dobbins
She's the Kaplan Beta Jones.
Sean Fenesi
The thing with this one is that there's new young magicians on their heels. And they are portrayed by future movie stars. Justice Smith, Ariana Greenblatt from Barbie. And Dominic Sessa.
Amanda Dobbins
Oh, good for. Oh, I do remember that film Updates to me, which is like, Dominic Cessa has joined the cast. Tough. Okay, so are they just magicians? Are they magicians who fight crime? Are they magicians who commit crimes?
Chris Ryan
They commit crimes, but they. They're like Robin Hoods. They, like, rob a casino vault and then throw the cash to people.
Amanda Dobbins
Okay, that's cool.
Chris Ryan
Yeah.
Amanda Dobbins
You know. Okay, you have it right now for $30. Are you bidding on this?
Sean Fenesi
I'm not sure yet.
Amanda Dobbins
So Jack. Jack just disappeared.
Chris Ryan
It's going to be like a funnier bit. And now it just is like me having nice C. Me.
Amanda Dobbins
So you guys are going to go to. To Castle together?
Sean Fenesi
I think that we have been before.
Amanda Dobbins
I went with you last time. It was very fun.
Sean Fenesi
That was some years ago.
Amanda Dobbins
Yeah. I think it was, like, early when.
Chris Ryan
You just moved here.
Sean Fenesi
Yeah.
Amanda Dobbins
So almost 10 years ago.
Sean Fenesi
Reuben Fleischer directed this movie. He directed Jesse Eisenberg to great acclaim in Zombieland. Yes.
Amanda Dobbins
Yeah.
Chris Ryan
The first two are. Louis Leterrier.
Sean Fenesi
Yes. And he has pivoted to fast 11. Oh, which is definitely happening.
Chris Ryan
Is Ruffalo in my S at Free that?
Sean Fenesi
No, I don't think so. If he is, they're not revealing that.
Amanda Dobbins
Oh, but that would be exciting.
Chris Ryan
I wonder if Melanie Laurent is coming back. Dynamite.
Amanda Dobbins
Yeah.
Sean Fenesi
Rosamund pike is the villain in this movie.
Chris Ryan
Oh, shit. Are you sure you're 135?
Sean Fenesi
Yeah, this is her. The description.
Amanda Dobbins
She needs this because they canceled her Wheel of Time money, you know?
Chris Ryan
So she plays Veronica versus Zack Ritten.
Amanda Dobbins
Yassi Salak, also a fan, I learned.
Chris Ryan
So, Zach, Wheel of Time.
Amanda Dobbins
Yeah. So Zach and Yassi are starting a letter.
Sean Fenesi
Yasi also came out as a very loud proponent of materialists, and she said she went to go see it because you compared it to Hal Hartley on the podcast, and she agreed.
Chris Ryan
Many people have been like, shut the fuck up. You don't know what you're saying, but that's okay.
Sean Fenesi
Rosamund pike plays Veronica Vanderburg, the main antagonist and matriarch of the crime scenario.
Amanda Dobbins
Oh, is it the crime syndicate that they work for or. They are. They're stealing from the crime syndicate to give money back to.
Sean Fenesi
In the trailer, she's holding a diamond, and she's like, but the diamond is safe. And then Jesse Eisenberg goes like, poof. And then it shatters in her hands. It's a great moment. Fucking love movies.
Amanda Dobbins
Okay.
Sean Fenesi
This is kind of firmly in the potential, like, Jurassic World Rebirth zone, where it's like, it's fun, but it's kind of evil, you know, and, like, maybe shouldn't exist.
Amanda Dobbins
Are you betting on it?
Sean Fenesi
$35.
Chris Ryan
Are you going to bid on it?
Amanda Dobbins
No, but I'm really enjoying learning about this.
Chris Ryan
I kind of want to keep bidding, but I also don't have anything else to say about it.
Sean Fenesi
I just want to say this is the best movie podcast there are. No, there are many movie podcasts, but only one of them will give you all of this.
Amanda Dobbins
Sure. Okay. It's true.
Chris Ryan
It's true.
Sean Fenesi
You're not going to take this film.
Chris Ryan
$36.
Sean Fenesi
You can have it.
Amanda Dobbins
Okay. All right.
Sean Fenesi
That's good, I guess.
Amanda Dobbins
Yeah. Okay. Okay, it's your turn. You have $700 left. Sean.
Chris Ryan
I have such a Normal draft this year. Usually I have like $900.
Amanda Dobbins
Yeah.
Chris Ryan
You know.
Sean Fenesi
Yeah, well, yeah, you. You went big on weapons and that.
Amanda Dobbins
That.
Sean Fenesi
That was a move.
Chris Ryan
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Amanda Dobbins
I've been on hold to make a doctor's appointment for 23 minutes now. The automated voice has told me 47 times that my call is very important to them. H. I'm starting to think that they don't think my call is important at all.
Sean Fenesi
With Amazon One Medical 24. 7 Virtual Care, you'll get help fast without having to remain on the line to make an appointment. Amazon One Medical Healthcare just got less painful. For $1, I'll put Superman on the board.
Amanda Dobbins
Okay, I really. I understand you're doing this from a strategy perspective because you think it'll do well box office, which in our other game I'm banking on. And you're open to superheroes and what I said. I was talking Rachel Brosnahan with Chris.
Sean Fenesi
And Andy Greenwald outside right before the recording.
Amanda Dobbins
Great.
Sean Fenesi
And Andy said, have you seen it? And I said, no. And I said, on the one hand, I haven't loved what I've seen, as we've discussed. Sure haven't. I think the most recent trailer is by far the best one they put out. But the first two I really didn't like very much. And we had kind of a weird experience watching them sell it at Cinemacon. However, there's pretty much not a James Gunn movie I don't like. Yeah, I like every movie he's ever made, frankly. So if I don't like it, it will be a surprising to me.
Amanda Dobbins
Yeah. So I guess are you. You. You're still in the mix.
Chris Ryan
I'm not gonna be bidding on this. I mean, I can bid on this. I can say $5.
Sean Fenesi
But sure you don't want your 264 going in that direction?
Chris Ryan
No, I don't.
Amanda Dobbins
Okay.
Chris Ryan
I have another. Another hero in mind.
Amanda Dobbins
Oh, wow.
Sean Fenesi
Do you?
Chris Ryan
Yeah.
Amanda Dobbins
Okay.
Sean Fenesi
Roofman's off the board.
Amanda Dobbins
Here is. The thing, is that I really don't like James Gunn movies. Like, I just really. And we all know that I. I'm allergic to it.
Sean Fenesi
I know, but you hate me making a really strong strategic move.
Amanda Dobbins
No, but I also have fears of you thinking it's funny and sticking me with it, so. And then getting something that I really want. But, like, I also know I should bid you up. Up. But we all know that I just.
Sean Fenesi
It's win, win for me.
Amanda Dobbins
I. You know, it's. And that's great. Congratulations for you. I guess. Whatever.
Sean Fenesi
I mean, the movie could be terrible and could bomb miserably.
Amanda Dobbins
Yeah. But even if it bombs, it'll make 100 million domestic.
Sean Fenesi
Almost certainly. Yeah. It's going to make 100 million in the opening weekend.
Amanda Dobbins
Sure. That. Okay.
Chris Ryan
What do you think it's missing? What?
Amanda Dobbins
Why? I really don't. I don't want to bid on it. I know you want to, like, make me bid on it, but I just. I don't.
Chris Ryan
I think I bid $50.
Amanda Dobbins
You already have it for $5. Right now. Don't bid yourself up.
Chris Ryan
All right, well, he's gonna bid.
Amanda Dobbins
Okay.
Chris Ryan
He was gonna be six. I just can't see him get it for six dollars.
Sean Fenesi
Six dollars.
Amanda Dobbins
Okay. All right.
Chris Ryan
$50. Because if I did get it, well, I mean, that's good for me, right? It's gonna do best.
Amanda Dobbins
Exactly. That's the thing. Sure.
Sean Fenesi
Yeah. Definitely. Only $51.
Amanda Dobbins
Okay.
Chris Ryan
Are you excited about Predator Badlands?
Sean Fenesi
I'm excited to talk to you about it as soon as it comes up on the board.
Chris Ryan
Yeah.
Sean Fenesi
But we gotta sort out the Superman situation first.
Chris Ryan
I just. I don't know what it is, man. I don't know what it is.
Amanda Dobbins
Are you big on James Gunn?
Chris Ryan
I like the first Guardians.
Amanda Dobbins
Okay.
Chris Ryan
I think. I think Sean likes him more than me.
Sean Fenesi
Me?
Amanda Dobbins
Yeah. Yeah.
Chris Ryan
It's not. Not. Not a personal thing. Please don't. Don't tweet at me. James Gunn?
Sean Fenesi
Yeah. You're really more Zack Snyder. That's what you're interested in?
Chris Ryan
I would say that Zack Snyder's dawn of the Dead is my favorite film. Either Zack Snyder or James Gunn is.
Sean Fenesi
You know who wrote the screenplay of dawn of the Dead?
Chris Ryan
James Gunn.
Sean Fenesi
James Gunn.
Chris Ryan
Maybe they should be like Garland, stronger together.
Sean Fenesi
It's been suggested in the past that. That Would have been the most useful way to pursue Superman. Which is to take Zack Snyder's visual sensibility and let James Gunn write the screenplay for him. That didn't happen. They both had to get a crack at it.
Chris Ryan
I would like to have seen James Gunn writing 300.
Amanda Dobbins
I mean, I was just thinking about, like, what would be better or worse for me. Would it be the two of them making Superman together? Yeah, together. Or I'm subjected to all their different individual versions.
Chris Ryan
55. We're just gonna go one.
Amanda Dobbins
Did you see Guardians of the Galaxy 3?
Sean Fenesi
I mean, you don't want this. You should just let me have it.
Chris Ryan
Would you do that for me? Of course I would.
Sean Fenesi
I gave you weapons.
Chris Ryan
Okay, that's a good point. I'm not gonna get him up to like 500.
Amanda Dobbins
I'm not expecting you to do anything.
Chris Ryan
Okay.
Amanda Dobbins
Yeah, you can, I guess.
Chris Ryan
Sean has an incredible value pick. But there's something a little bit like congratulations.
Amanda Dobbins
You know what?
Chris Ryan
You auctioned a movie coming out in four days.
Amanda Dobbins
Okay. Get him up to 61.
Chris Ryan
$61.
Sean Fenesi
Okay, $62.
Amanda Dobbins
Great.
Sean Fenesi
She just wants to have.
Amanda Dobbins
I want to have more money than me. Yeah.
Sean Fenesi
Which is not really relevant anymore.
Amanda Dobbins
Yeah.
Sean Fenesi
But.
Amanda Dobbins
Okay, thank you.
Sean Fenesi
Congratulations.
Chris Ryan
She's got to make her money back.
Sean Fenesi
Now that she's kicked off the.
Amanda Dobbins
That Steel magnolia.
Sean Fenesi
I'll take it for 62.
Chris Ryan
Okay.
Sean Fenesi
Well, I think I've. Okay, done my job box office wise.
Amanda Dobbins
Yeah.
Sean Fenesi
And now onto quality. Okay, so, Amanda, you have two in a row, right?
Chris Ryan
Yes.
Amanda Dobbins
Oh, I have two in a row.
Sean Fenesi
Yes.
Amanda Dobbins
Okay.
Sean Fenesi
Cuz I'm in the middle.
Amanda Dobbins
Okay. What am I going to do here? What will I do here? The thing is, is that I don't care about box office that much because I'm just. I'm going for me, you know?
Sean Fenesi
Do you think Superman will get any Oscar nominations?
Chris Ryan
No.
Amanda Dobbins
No. Sorry.
Sean Fenesi
I'm just curious.
Chris Ryan
I don't.
Amanda Dobbins
Yeah.
Sean Fenesi
Visual effects.
Chris Ryan
I. Not based on what I've seen so far.
Amanda Dobbins
Let's see. All right.
Chris Ryan
Face is not, like, good.
Sean Fenesi
What about the Kaiju?
Amanda Dobbins
Okay.
Chris Ryan
Is that good?
Sean Fenesi
You know what the Kaiju is?
Chris Ryan
I mean, I. I think I know what a Kaiju is, generally speaking. Is there one in the movie?
Sean Fenesi
There is. Yeah.
Chris Ryan
That's cool. I feel like we've been here for three hours.
Amanda Dobbins
Yeah, no, we have. I mean, let's just. Let's do it. J. Kelly.
Sean Fenesi
Go. Let's do it.
Amanda Dobbins
Let's do it. Jay Kelly, what's this movie about?
Chris Ryan
It's about a guy.
Amanda Dobbins
George Clooney is. I believe in Aging movie star and. And some other stuff happens. And Adam Sandler is also in it. I don't want to know anymore. I just want to go see it.
Chris Ryan
Does Adam Sandler play his brother?
Amanda Dobbins
I think so.
Sean Fenesi
I believe so, yeah. It is written by Noah Bombach and Emily Mortimer.
Chris Ryan
Oh, wow.
Sean Fenesi
And it is directed by Noah.
Amanda Dobbins
Yeah. Okay, so $100.
Sean Fenesi
This is, I think his fourth movie for Netflix now.
Amanda Dobbins
Yeah.
Sean Fenesi
You said $100.
Amanda Dobbins
I did.
Sean Fenesi
Yes. This is also shot by Linus Sandgren. I believe it's his first film. Did he shoot White Noise? He may have shot White Noise as well. He also notably shot La La Land and Babylon and First Man. And he shot the upcoming White Noise, Weathering Heights Law Crawley. Right. Yeah. So this is his first time working with Bon, which is really interesting. I'll say. 150.
Chris Ryan
Is Emily Mortimer in this film?
Sean Fenesi
I don't think so. But I believe her son with Alessandro Nivola was in White Noise.
Chris Ryan
Yes, right.
Amanda Dobbins
Correct.
Chris Ryan
He was in White Lotus.
Sean Fenesi
White Lotus, Yeah. Good actor.
Amanda Dobbins
According to Wikipedia, she is listed in the cast, but great.
Sean Fenesi
The cast is incredible.
Amanda Dobbins
Yeah.
Sean Fenesi
It's Clooney and Sage.
Amanda Dobbins
200.
Sean Fenesi
Billy Crudup, Laura Dern, Riley Keough, Patrick Wilson, Jim Broadbent, Eve Hewson, Alba Rohrwalker, Josh Hamilton, of course, Greta Gerwigs, Isla Fisher.
Chris Ryan
Lars Edinger, Kyle Solar from Fucking Andor.
Sean Fenesi
Yes.
Chris Ryan
If you know, you know him too.
Amanda Dobbins
How about that?
Sean Fenesi
225. 5.
Amanda Dobbins
250.
Sean Fenesi
Who ended up with White Noise last time? A movie. I like.
Amanda Dobbins
I like it also. I. I don't remember. You can't psych me out of this. I thought.
Sean Fenesi
What do you mean psych you out of it?
Amanda Dobbins
I don't know. You're just like. You're gonna bring up White Noise and you're gonna say critically. We're not.
Sean Fenesi
So you got a mix, you got a podcast. This is what we're here to podcast.
Amanda Dobbins
That is true, but I'm just. My podcasting is being like, no, you will not psych me out of. Of this.
Sean Fenesi
Okay.
Amanda Dobbins
I. I am excited about J. Kelly. I'm excited about George Clooney.
Chris Ryan
Me too.
Amanda Dobbins
I'm excited about 263.
Chris Ryan
You.
Amanda Dobbins
Oh, I love it.
Sean Fenesi
You flew back for the live taping of Good Night and Good Luck. How was that? Did you enjoy yourself?
Chris Ryan
I didn't. I didn't see either the stage version or the live TV version. I felt a theater sized hole in my life this year actually.
Amanda Dobbins
What do you.
Sean Fenesi
What are your feelings on Edward R. Murrow?
Chris Ryan
He did his Best. But it doesn't seem like it's going to work out for us.
Amanda Dobbins
Yeah.
Sean Fenesi
You know, interesting. 270, 280.
Chris Ryan
Now I just sit on the sidelines.
Amanda Dobbins
Yeah. Sorry.
Sean Fenesi
Early speculation is Sandman big time Oscar campaign coming.
Amanda Dobbins
Wonderful.
Sean Fenesi
Is it time for Sandman?
Amanda Dobbins
Yes.
Chris Ryan
Do you think if Sandman didn't make super dumb movies other than these Oscar bait movies, like, if he can, can he find like a middle ground between, like, I have a remote control that controls my wife and J. Kelly that like it would be cool.
Sean Fenesi
He did, he does those. He did funny people.
Chris Ryan
That was a long time ago. And that was also like slyly like trying to get an Oscar too.
Amanda Dobbins
Right?
Sean Fenesi
I don't know about that. He just did Hustle. I disagree. I think he's actually one of the best purveyors of this. I mean, I'm obsessed with Sandler, so I thought about this a lot. But I think one of the best things about him is he has three modes. He can do your Happy Madison dumb comedy and there's a huge audience for those movies. He can do this kind of like mid level dramedy like he did Spanglish years ago. He does these kinds of movies all the time.
Chris Ryan
I remember Spanglish.
Sean Fenesi
Not in a film I like at all, but he did it. And he also can do uncut gems and movies with bombach. So I think he's like legitimately one of the most versatile movie stars of all time. That's my piece.
Amanda Dobbins
I don't, I don't disagree.
Sean Fenesi
No, George Clooney cannot do Happy Gilmore. He simply cannot do it.
Amanda Dobbins
That's true.
Sean Fenesi
He's Adam Sandler can do Adam Sandler.
Chris Ryan
I think George Clooney in O Brother the Idiot Cohen Clooney can, could do something. Think approaching the Sandler comedies.
Amanda Dobbins
Yeah, it's. I think it's sort of like a. It's a Jon Ham thing where you're like too handsome to be that funny, even though you really want to be funny. Okay.
Sean Fenesi
He's funny for a handsome guy.
Amanda Dobbins
And it's like. And he definitely appreciates the other people being funny. You know, I think he, he's a.
Sean Fenesi
Good laugher, but, you know, I'll say 290, 300. You know, who else needs to have in its time is no back. It's really Noah's time. We gotta acknowledge one of the greats.
Chris Ryan
How do you feel about the two of them, Noah and Greta just working for, for Big Ted?
Sean Fenesi
I don't love it. Yeah, I don't love it. But I guess this is where I'd like to go see his movies in movie theaters. Yeah.
Chris Ryan
He can't get himself, like, an Indian paintbrush deal. Like, where just like some. Some rich guy is like, here's 40 mil. You can go make a movie.
Sean Fenesi
He's never made a movie that has made very much money in theaters. So in some ways, when. When Netflix's whole thing was the Noah Baumbachs and the. And the Bong and make their movies, that was an amazing moment in movie history that will not never be replicated. Yeah. Apple did a very small version of it, and that's kind of over, too. I'll say. 310. Very. I'm really into this movie. It's a good. It's a good movie for this show.
Amanda Dobbins
Good movie for us. 320. This is another. I'm hopeful that it will be at Venice, and I think it's pretty cool. Yeah. Because Netflix does. The Venice Film Festival likes Netflix, and Netflix likes to show up there. So that would be 3:30, sort of 3:40. The main issue is, like, the scheduling, you know, because I really. Last time they scheduled Sofia Coppola as Priscilla for after I was supposed to leave.
Sean Fenesi
Why not extend your trip?
Amanda Dobbins
I did extend it, but then I will have to extend it again. And I don't know, you know, is.
Sean Fenesi
It because you have to go straight to the set of Steel Memories, too, that you want to see your family?
Amanda Dobbins
Right, Right.
Sean Fenesi
Yeah, it's tough. 3, 350, 360, 370, 380.
Amanda Dobbins
Yeah. The cursor. The can't keep up with.
Sean Fenesi
With us. Seems like a lot.
Amanda Dobbins
Sure.
Sean Fenesi
You just want to get what you want to get.
Amanda Dobbins
That is true in the auction and in life.
Sean Fenesi
Yeah. How's it going? Are you achieving what you want?
Amanda Dobbins
Just not at all.
Sean Fenesi
You're not getting what you want.
Amanda Dobbins
Yeah. You know, but tonight when I put that honey mask on, you know, then you'll feel you.
Sean Fenesi
You are completed. This honeymoon mask completes me.
Amanda Dobbins
I figure out the plot holes and then just like that.
Sean Fenesi
390, 400. My, my, my. Is there anything else we would go up against one another for in the rest of this auction? Sierra's got only one slot left, so we're. It's going to be me and you.
Chris Ryan
I could see things would bring you two together.
Amanda Dobbins
Yeah. But like, the. The thing is. And it's a little ugly, which is in the theme of this podcast. But Bombach is what brings us together.
Sean Fenesi
Yeah.
Amanda Dobbins
You know, and so now we are pitted against each other over the things that we Love.
Sean Fenesi
The single biggest meeting point of our taste.
Amanda Dobbins
Probably. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Chris Ryan
That and big Tom Cruise action movies.
Amanda Dobbins
Yeah, I guess that's true.
Sean Fenesi
We've been let down by one of those.
Amanda Dobbins
Yeah.
Sean Fenesi
Ready?
Amanda Dobbins
This year we're there together.
Sean Fenesi
410.
Amanda Dobbins
420. 20. I don't have a weed joke to make. Sorry. I got some.
Sean Fenesi
Not a weed person.
Amanda Dobbins
No, I'm not. And I got some edibles that were recommended for sleep and they didn't. It didn't work for me. And also, I just don't like how they taste. They're. They're like BlackBerry, but, you know, they have strong weed aftertastes. I like. Really. I don't like the notes.
Sean Fenesi
I mean.
Amanda Dobbins
No, thanks.
Sean Fenesi
It is weed after all.
Amanda Dobbins
Yeah, I know. It's. It's not.
Sean Fenesi
Not a weed guy.
Chris Ryan
They just killed the goose, man. They shouldn't have. They just. I just.
Sean Fenesi
You got a weed take?
Chris Ryan
No, I just. I just think, like, what we think of as weed now is not, like, what weed was.
Sean Fenesi
You mean the oregano that you smoked in 1996?
Chris Ryan
Honestly, I was better for it. It was better off smoking, like, some ground up herbs and spices in Washington Square park than I was getting my. My frontal lobe dissolved by, like, whatever's in this stuff. And I really resent their real estate footprint.
Amanda Dobbins
Yeah, that is insane.
Chris Ryan
The real estate footprint of the weed industry.
Sean Fenesi
I see. I don't really have a comment. I.
Chris Ryan
Why are there more weed stores than DVD stores?
Amanda Dobbins
Well, it's.
Sean Fenesi
It's market capitalism, right? I mean, what do people want?
Amanda Dobbins
Oh, great.
Sean Fenesi
How are they spending their time?
Chris Ryan
Well, I think that they should spend their time with DVDs, as you know.
Sean Fenesi
I agree. I just received a box.
Chris Ryan
I don't know why they can't just do things. Ever have a weed store where it's like, here's a gummy and then here's the perfect movie to go with that Gummy.
Amanda Dobbins
Yeah, there you go.
Sean Fenesi
I mean, I don't think movies are best experienced.
Amanda Dobbins
Why are you turning your back on his innovation?
Sean Fenesi
You know, no one's ever thought about taking a gummy and watching a movie.
Amanda Dobbins
Before selling them together.
Sean Fenesi
Yeah, that could be cool. Okay, that could be cool. Should we call the local video stores?
Amanda Dobbins
You don't seem that excited about it.
Sean Fenesi
Well, most of the time I don't want to watch a movie.
Amanda Dobbins
I got stoned and sold your DVDs on the sale on the street also.
Sean Fenesi
Another thing is that given the strength.
Chris Ryan
Of weed now I should be able to sell lewds, like, in a store, you know?
Sean Fenesi
Yeah. I know what you're saying.
Amanda Dobbins
Yeah.
Sean Fenesi
But I don't agree with it. I'll let you have it for 420.
Amanda Dobbins
Thank you. You're welcome so much. That's really nice of you.
Chris Ryan
Chris's Quaaludes. Quaalude from any occasion.
Sean Fenesi
The branding is right there. It's all Leo's faces from Wolf of Wall Street. That would be really good. Okay. You got to put another movie up.
Amanda Dobbins
Yeah. All right. Deliver me from nowhere.
Sean Fenesi
Wow.
Amanda Dobbins
Five bucks.
Sean Fenesi
Wow. Let's go. I will not be bidding on this movie.
Chris Ryan
Oh, 10 bucks.
Amanda Dobbins
Okay. 15.
Chris Ryan
50.
Amanda Dobbins
I don't know. I mean, I guess you don't.
Chris Ryan
How are you feeling?
Amanda Dobbins
How am I feeling?
Chris Ryan
About him. About Jeremy? As.
Sean Fenesi
As.
Amanda Dobbins
I mean, just.
Chris Ryan
Just about Jeremy.
Amanda Dobbins
Pick a menu. Just pick one and just stick with it. The bear, you know, just. That's just.
Chris Ryan
You gotta.
Amanda Dobbins
I know.
Chris Ryan
Charlie Parker didn't play the same notes every night.
Amanda Dobbins
It's. I just can't believe how long we've been talking about.
Sean Fenesi
Yeah.
Amanda Dobbins
You know, just. He. What? And the components and just pick one. So that's how I feel. But I think that when he's not sitting in a. In, like, the weirdly lit kitchen, being like, I need more ingredients because I have demons. He's really good.
Chris Ryan
Yeah.
Amanda Dobbins
He was really good in the Wedding up to.
Chris Ryan
Do you believe him as Bruce Springsteen?
Amanda Dobbins
I don't really sure. I. The.
Chris Ryan
So much so that you would go over $50?
Amanda Dobbins
Sure. 50. 53. Let's go. You want to keep talking about. About it. You're not even bidding because you have a moral opposition to musical biopics.
Sean Fenesi
I'm just not that excited about this movie.
Amanda Dobbins
Okay.
Sean Fenesi
I haven't. There's been a long time since I've seen a Scott Cooper movie I like.
Amanda Dobbins
Yeah.
Sean Fenesi
I think Jeremy Allen White's a good actor. I'm not sure if I'm sold on him at this level. And I will go. I will walk into the ocean for Jeremy Strong. I will support him in anything he does. I believe he is one of the most important people alive, and I will not move off of. Of that opinion. And so that alone, I might like this. But, you know, I just think these kinds of movies stink.
Chris Ryan
How much are $638?
Sean Fenesi
I've got three slots left. Yeah, I got Superman for 62 bucks. I actually don't know, like. Like, is this movie going to get nominated for best picture, or is it going to get, like, destroyed by. I have no clue.
Amanda Dobbins
Did you guys see the lunch in Sardinia? That was Scott Cooper. Jeremy Strong, Bradley Cooper.
Chris Ryan
Nope.
Amanda Dobbins
Someone else was there. They were just all someone else who was not related to this movie, but makes movies.
Chris Ryan
That's Blue Zone right there. Yeah, Forever. That's good olive oil.
Sean Fenesi
Would you get on a rocket ship and go into space with those guys?
Chris Ryan
Yeah, that would be an amazing movie too.
Sean Fenesi
What was the name of that trip?
Amanda Dobbins
Honestly, if. If Blue. The Blue Origin. They. If they'd had you on that trip. Not the. Not the women, because you can't be a girl boss, but like, just to.
Sean Fenesi
Break up the self seriousness, if.
Amanda Dobbins
If they had you on the dude version of that trip, everyone would love Bro Origin. Yeah, you'd kill it. And I think you'd look good in the blue suit too.
Chris Ryan
What would happen, though, if they Martianed me and I had to grill potatoes out of my own feces?
Sean Fenesi
Those Irish jeans, though.
Amanda Dobbins
As long as someone is videotaping it, then we have, you know, a box office.
Chris Ryan
It would be tough to dismiss the Odyssey if I got lost in space.
Sean Fenesi
This episode is dedicated to cr, who is in oblivion right now. Chris, we're so happy we got to see the Odyssey.
Amanda Dobbins
He's sending us robot messages.
Chris Ryan
Do you think I could do every Mars soldier?
Sean Fenesi
We would put you right here on the big screen.
Chris Ryan
Can I make a wish it. And do you think, like, if I was like, I have like, two hours of oxygen left. Christopher Nolan, please beam the Odyssey into my suit so I could see.
Sean Fenesi
I think the runtime is going to be a little longer than two hours. Yeah.
Amanda Dobbins
So the format, it's a good point.
Sean Fenesi
You wouldn't want it on your honesty.
Chris Ryan
What if he could, like, broadcast it against the moon? You know what I mean? Like, yeah, that would be the widest of screens.
Sean Fenesi
Yeah, but would the sound be synced properly?
Amanda Dobbins
Then you'd have to wait for like a full, you know.
Sean Fenesi
Know.
Amanda Dobbins
What is it? What's like a. How does the moon wax him? Wait on Mars.
Chris Ryan
Oh, I'm in Mars. I thought we were just going up and doing a quick lap.
Sean Fenesi
CR's got this.
Amanda Dobbins
For 60 bucks, I'll let him have it.
Sean Fenesi
Well, that's the end of his slate.
Amanda Dobbins
Yeah, it's okay.
Chris Ryan
I could still chime in, talk a little bit. I have to nominate something.
Sean Fenesi
That's true.
Chris Ryan
Let you two fight over it.
Amanda Dobbins
Yeah. You're up, Big dog.
Sean Fenesi
I'm up.
Amanda Dobbins
Yeah.
Sean Fenesi
Five slots left. I like that. I accept Big dog.
Amanda Dobbins
It does really feel like we've been here forever.
Sean Fenesi
It's been a long pod.
Chris Ryan
I wonder if it's cool for people listening. They're like, this is. This is. This is good. I think so. I think that we've got a lot of ideas.
Amanda Dobbins
The moon Wax and Wayne on Mars. I guess it's not Mars's moon. Does Mars have.
Chris Ryan
I think if I was on Mars, that would be a much bigger story than the Odyssey because I would be the first man on Mars.
Amanda Dobbins
Mars has two moons, which I guess are the moons that carry its chariots. Now the. The horses, you know, now that I think about it.
Sean Fenesi
Okay. Please. Chloe Zhao's hamnet. 50 bucks.
Amanda Dobbins
Oh, okay.
Chris Ryan
Oh, this could get contentious.
Amanda Dobbins
Yeah. Yeah. Did you read this?
Sean Fenesi
No, and I won't.
Amanda Dobbins
Okay. Did I spoil it for you?
Sean Fenesi
No.
Amanda Dobbins
Adaptation. Maggie O' Farrell novel, which I thought was absolutely sensational. I mean, 75 for sure.
Sean Fenesi
I'll say. 100. This is actually quite different from anything Chloe Zhao has ever done before.
Amanda Dobbins
True.
Sean Fenesi
Her first three films are, if not improvised, very naturalistic and the story is very threatening.
Chris Ryan
Improvised, naturalistic film.
Sean Fenesi
And Eternals is what Eternals is. This is meant to be like a return to form kind of a thing. But also, you know, period piece adaptation is not something she's ever experimented with.
Amanda Dobbins
Right.
Sean Fenesi
I'm still a believer in her talent.
Amanda Dobbins
I am as well.
Sean Fenesi
I really love Nomadland. I said it then and I say it now. I really, really like that movie. I think it's very insightful, emotionally. So.
Amanda Dobbins
Also, you know, I know that period piece does historically mean very mannered corset.
Chris Ryan
Not necessarily, though.
Amanda Dobbins
But it doesn't have to be. And it would make sense with this story for it to be.
Chris Ryan
You know, it's a period piece that kind of comes. Jumps right off the page. What, Valkyrie?
Amanda Dobbins
Yeah, there you go.
Sean Fenesi
Yes, it sure does. Jumps right off the page and right into your laptop where you post memes on 8chan125. I'll say 150. The other reason for this, to be excited about this movie, obviously. Paul Mescal playing William Shakespeare and Jesse Buckley playing Agnes Shakespeare.
Amanda Dobbins
Yes.
Sean Fenesi
Jesse Buckley. One of my favorites. Paul Mescal. Kind of in need of a comebacking.
Chris Ryan
Glastonbury for that guy, though.
Amanda Dobbins
I'm unreal.
Chris Ryan
Smoking darts with Gracie.
Amanda Dobbins
Yeah.
Sean Fenesi
Gracie Abrams. Are you a fan?
Chris Ryan
No, but I. You know, they're obviously. They're staying together.
Amanda Dobbins
You think so?
Sean Fenesi
You think for good.
Chris Ryan
If I had to bet, if I was a betting man, they've gone past the point where it would just be convenient for like, pop paparazzi points.
Sean Fenesi
Do you think Wedding bells. Right.
Chris Ryan
For them, maybe.
Sean Fenesi
Interesting. Joe Alwyn plays Bartholomew in this film.
Amanda Dobbins
Okay. 175. Joe Allen has good taste in films. I don't remember or know who Bartholomew is, but that's fine.
Sean Fenesi
Emily Watson plays Mary. Emily Watson, wonderful actress.
Amanda Dobbins
Agnes is a great name.
Sean Fenesi
It was on the list.
Amanda Dobbins
It was. That's really nice. I think it would have been on the list for us as well, though. We know. We know an Agnes. Like a similar generation Agnes. So I wouldn't want to say that.
Chris Ryan
Like, how many names? How many, like Steve's, do you guys know?
Amanda Dobbins
It's really.
Chris Ryan
No.
Amanda Dobbins
Yeah. No, There are no Chris's.
Chris Ryan
Dave.
Amanda Dobbins
There are no Sean.
Sean Fenesi
No. I've done this bit before with other parents. It's just Michael. There are no Michaels.
Amanda Dobbins
That preschool tour will just blow your hair back. You just look at those.
Sean Fenesi
Jonathan this. You just don't meet a Jonathan anymore.
Amanda Dobbins
Yeah.
Sean Fenesi
You're more likely to meet a George than a Jonathan in 2025.
Chris Ryan
It's just gonna be so crazy when it's like 2060 and it's like President Ryder, you know, like.
Sean Fenesi
Yeah. Longfellow. Yeah, yeah. They're all the names of the kids in Alice. I mean, we live in Los Angeles, the east side of Los Angeles.
Amanda Dobbins
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Sean Fenesi
So, yeah, the names are.
Chris Ryan
It's a bubble.
Sean Fenesi
It's a bubble. 200.
Amanda Dobbins
I mean, I. 210. Sure.
Sean Fenesi
211.
Amanda Dobbins
Okay. 212.
Sean Fenesi
213.
Amanda Dobbins
214.
Chris Ryan
Chunk it up.
Sean Fenesi
215.
Amanda Dobbins
You want to do it? Like, do you.
Sean Fenesi
I mean, I think this is going to be one of the big films of the year. I think it's going to be one of the Oscar heavyweights.
Amanda Dobbins
Okay. Okay. 2:18.
Sean Fenesi
I'll take it for 219.
Amanda Dobbins
Okay. There you go.
Chris Ryan
There you go.
Amanda Dobbins
Was that fun?
Sean Fenesi
It was. I feel good about it.
Amanda Dobbins
Okay.
Sean Fenesi
I needed an Oscar contender.
Chris Ryan
Proud owner.
Amanda Dobbins
Yeah. Great book. If you haven't read it. Upsetting, but great.
Sean Fenesi
This film is produced by Sam Mendes and Steven Spielberg.
Amanda Dobbins
Okay, well, good job.
Sean Fenesi
Very interesting. I wonder if they were both attached to direct at a certain point.
Chris Ryan
Oh, and then they were like, I won't. But I'll lend my name to it.
Sean Fenesi
Seems possible. We shall see. Okay, Chris, you've got to put a movie up.
Chris Ryan
I can't bid on it, but I can watch you two talk about out Caught stealing. Darren Aronofsky's comic thrower.
Amanda Dobbins
So what are the rules here?
Sean Fenesi
I don't know.
Amanda Dobbins
Like, do you.
Sean Fenesi
We've never been in this situation before.
Chris Ryan
Neither of you want it? I can throw up another one.
Sean Fenesi
I think we can just pass and move on to another. I really do. Did not like the trailer for this movie.
Chris Ryan
Okay.
Amanda Dobbins
I believe in the members of the cast, like, a lot. Austin Butler, Zoe Kravitz, Matt Smith, Regina King. Like, sure. Bad Bunny. Why not? Once again, I'm reading from Google AI. So if that's wrong, blame AI. Like everything else.
Sean Fenesi
You could click one button just to confirm.
Amanda Dobbins
I know, but, you know, it's suddenly like I had the.
Sean Fenesi
This is what has happened to America.
Amanda Dobbins
It's true.
Sean Fenesi
This is what has happened to the minds of consumers.
Amanda Dobbins
It's a time crunch thing. I don't.
Sean Fenesi
Not an issue on this episode.
Amanda Dobbins
But I can see Jack, like, holding his head in despair. Your lighting's great today and we have like a. It's like the corner of the TV is over your forehead. But then I see him being.
Sean Fenesi
No.
Chris Ryan
1 bidding for this.
Sean Fenesi
No one's bidding costume.
Chris Ryan
Do you want me to put up a different film or a second film? Now on the turn.
Sean Fenesi
I enjoy Darren Aronofsky's work, but this feels a little low rent for him, in my opinion.
Chris Ryan
I think it looks cool. And Austin Butler has got my vote. Same President Butler. Speaking of presidents House of Dynamics.
Sean Fenesi
Yeah.
Amanda Dobbins
That's the Bigelow.
Sean Fenesi
Yeah. This is interesting.
Amanda Dobbins
Okay.
Sean Fenesi
Have seen nary an image from this film.
Amanda Dobbins
Yeah.
Sean Fenesi
It's got, I believe, an October release date.
Chris Ryan
Is Idris Elba been in the White House too much just in his career. Yeah. To be believable in this House of Dynamite scenario in which I assume he is the president.
Sean Fenesi
He's first billed in the movie, so that seems logical.
Chris Ryan
Or maybe he's like.
Amanda Dobbins
Like. But maybe. Maybe it's one of those where the president is just in another room.
Chris Ryan
Is Greta Lee the president. Is Tracy Letts the president?
Amanda Dobbins
That would be great.
Sean Fenesi
I do. Tracy. I do not believe Tracy is the president of this film. I could be wrong. I've talked to him about this movie, but not what he's doing in the movie.
Chris Ryan
Okay.
Sean Fenesi
The log line is a group of White House officials scramble to deal with an incoming missile attack on the U.S. i don't know for sure, but I think it might even be a TikTok specifically of what happens when it is announced.
Chris Ryan
Not TikTok.
Sean Fenesi
Yes. CK is not the. Catherine Bigelow did not direct a TikTok.
Amanda Dobbins
For Netflix, although we do have to clarify in 2024.
Sean Fenesi
Maybe she should have done that. No. Like a little countdown from the moment when the missile is fired at the United States to what on what transpires, which is just A great premise for a movie.
Amanda Dobbins
Yeah.
Sean Fenesi
Fail Safe is a very similar premise. The Lumet movie. So Idris Elba, Rebecca Ferguson, Tracy Letts, Anthony Ramos, Greta Lee, Renee Elise Goldsberry.
Chris Ryan
That's a lot of Broadway talent right there.
Sean Fenesi
A lot of stage actors in the White house. I'll bid 10 bucks.
Amanda Dobbins
25.
Sean Fenesi
How do you feel about another year of Bigelow, Big Jim going toe to toe?
Amanda Dobbins
I. Historically, it's been fruitful. It has. That seems good.
Sean Fenesi
50 bucks. Kind of pumped about this.
Amanda Dobbins
Yeah.
Sean Fenesi
White House threw it.
Chris Ryan
Directed.
Amanda Dobbins
Listen, I'm very 60.
Sean Fenesi
75. This could just become a movie that doesn't exist. Like, it's possible that it comes out and people are like, okay. And then they move on. It could be like, it's a Catherine Bigelow movie.
Chris Ryan
It could be like Triple Frontier, which she was supposed to direct, but it could be like one of those movies where it's like, man, I'm so pumped. And then it comes out on Netflix and everybody like, cool.
Sean Fenesi
But it never died in our memory. Yeah, that's a big one.
Chris Ryan
Our personal rewatch.
Amanda Dobbins
Big size Twixes.
Chris Ryan
I do remember that.
Amanda Dobbins
That was. That was a great day.
Sean Fenesi
Great day. 85.
Amanda Dobbins
90.
Sean Fenesi
That's. I feel like the awareness of this in the public at large is low.
Amanda Dobbins
True.
Chris Ryan
I would say that for a lot of these films.
Sean Fenesi
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 95.
Amanda Dobbins
I mean, what am I going to do if I don't do this?
Sean Fenesi
This would give me Big Jim, James Gunn, Chloe Zhao and Kathryn Bigelow. If I could get this film, that would be solid.
Amanda Dobbins
$100. Because I believe in women filmmakers.
Sean Fenesi
I'm not even making this about gender. I don't see gender.
Amanda Dobbins
No.
Chris Ryan
I only see a missile coming right at us.
Sean Fenesi
What I see is a thriller, a pulse pounding thriller from one of our great thriller makers.
Amanda Dobbins
All right.
Sean Fenesi
105. Have you seen Point Break recently?
Amanda Dobbins
Yeah, it's really good. 110.
Sean Fenesi
Wow, that's a film. 115.
Amanda Dobbins
Are we. Are like, are we just going to do this all the way? 1. 120.
Sean Fenesi
I don't know. Jack is so. He's like so hungry.
Chris Ryan
He wants. He's not Frenchie so bad.
Amanda Dobbins
Yeah. Oh, yeah. Can we get. Will you throw string cheeses in here? Will that like interrupt with the, like.
Sean Fenesi
Let'S run it right now. Oh, string cheese.
Amanda Dobbins
120. Okay. Yeah. 120. I feel good about that.
Sean Fenesi
130.
Amanda Dobbins
Okay. 135.
Sean Fenesi
140. I'm sorry, Chris. This is just. This is important.
Chris Ryan
I agree. I wasn't yawning.
Amanda Dobbins
145.
Sean Fenesi
150, Bigelow.
Amanda Dobbins
155. Like, who's saying? Who's saying? No, not me.
Sean Fenesi
Would you have bid on this, Chris?
Chris Ryan
Yeah. It's gonna be sick.
Sean Fenesi
You got. Now you see me.
Chris Ryan
That was more like. I thought I was gonna throw that out there. There was gonna be some laughs. I didn't really think I was gonna wind up.
Sean Fenesi
Here we go.
Amanda Dobbins
All right.
Sean Fenesi
Nice.
Amanda Dobbins
There we go.
Sean Fenesi
One, two. Oh, dear.
Amanda Dobbins
Okay. Thank you.
Sean Fenesi
Thank you.
Amanda Dobbins
Sick. All right.
Sean Fenesi
Wow. String cheese break.
Chris Ryan
A bunch of people eating cheese on video.
Sean Fenesi
People love it when cheese is in someone's mouth and they talk. People love to hear that.
Amanda Dobbins
So this is. This is cold. So that is bad for you, lactose wise? I don't know how much lactose is in that.
Sean Fenesi
I do have some mozzarella allowances.
Chris Ryan
Did you get that piece of information? Where'd you get that from?
Amanda Dobbins
Sean? So I'm cold.
Chris Ryan
Cheese is bad for you.
Sean Fenesi
Cooked cheese. If you're lactose intolerant is. Okay. There's like, gradation.
Amanda Dobbins
155.
Sean Fenesi
I'm not officially diagnosed. 165.
Amanda Dobbins
Do you think Catherine Bickelow eats string cheese on set? No.
Sean Fenesi
What do you think?
Amanda Dobbins
Catherine Bigelow. He's on at 1 7.
Chris Ryan
She vapes if she does.
Amanda Dobbins
Do you know that?
Chris Ryan
No, but it seems like something that she would do.
Sean Fenesi
She probably has, like, a protein bowl.
Chris Ryan
Yeah. What's in the protein bowl?
Amanda Dobbins
Is that acai?
Sean Fenesi
Is.
Amanda Dobbins
Is it protein? I don't think that is. It's superfood. But.
Sean Fenesi
175.
Amanda Dobbins
180. I've never had an acai bowl.
Chris Ryan
There's too many blueberries in it for me.
Amanda Dobbins
Yeah. Like, I don't. It's just not a food center.
Sean Fenesi
You can have it for 180.
Amanda Dobbins
Sick. Okay.
Sean Fenesi
It's a good get.
Amanda Dobbins
Thanks. I'm excited.
Sean Fenesi
It's also a Netflix movie.
Amanda Dobbins
Well, whatever. I don't care. As I said, I exist outside of box office.
Sean Fenesi
I exist for the cinema. That's what I exist for. Which is why I acquired Superman.
Amanda Dobbins
Cool.
Sean Fenesi
You put another movie movie up Me? Think so. No. Cr.
Chris Ryan
Well, I put up cut stealing.
Amanda Dobbins
Oh, yeah.
Chris Ryan
I put up pos. Dynamite.
Sean Fenesi
So then it'll be me.
Amanda Dobbins
Yeah. H.
Sean Fenesi
How do I thread the needle here?
Amanda Dobbins
I don't know, Sean.
Sean Fenesi
I'll put. It was just an accident. For $1 on the board, Jafar Panahi's Pom Door winning new film acquired by Neon.
Amanda Dobbins
And what is the release date? It does. It's October, right?
Sean Fenesi
October yeah, Certainly one of the big awards contenders of the year. Iranian thriller.
Amanda Dobbins
I mean, it's not going to do box office, but Oscar wise.
Sean Fenesi
I mean.
Amanda Dobbins
I'll do 40 if you want it. You can take it from me.
Sean Fenesi
I'll take it for 41.
Amanda Dobbins
Okay.
Sean Fenesi
I feel like I need to pump up those Oscar numbers and that Metacritic score.
Chris Ryan
Got to get those numbers up, you know.
Sean Fenesi
What is Jafar Panahi's history? Those are rookie on Metacritic. Pump up those numbers. My quant on this. So he has a career average score of 82 on Metacritic.
Amanda Dobbins
You're just. You're a wizard of strategy, Sean.
Sean Fenesi
And we're no bears. Had a 93. 93.
Amanda Dobbins
All right.
Sean Fenesi
It was just an accident. Currently sits at 87.
Amanda Dobbins
What?
Chris Ryan
You won Metacritic.
Sean Fenesi
Yeah.
Amanda Dobbins
Congratulations.
Chris Ryan
So you pull it apart.
Amanda Dobbins
I don't always, but right now I am. What's up with if I have money left over?
Chris Ryan
Oh, I have money left over. Right.
Amanda Dobbins
No, I know, but like, where does it go? Does it go away? Do I want to spend everything? Do I want to.
Sean Fenesi
It goes right into the budget of Steel Magnolias too.
Amanda Dobbins
Yeah, but does it go back to me? Me?
Sean Fenesi
No. Under no circumstances. So you've got $40 left. Okay, I've got $378 left.
Amanda Dobbins
Sure.
Sean Fenesi
So good luck to you on whatever it is that you want.
Amanda Dobbins
No, I know exactly what I'm going to do. I'm not stressed at all. I just want to make sure I get the full title right. For $40, I'll take down Nabby. The grand finale.
Sean Fenesi
This is valueless though, because it will not cross $100 million. It will not get any Oscar nominations.
Amanda Dobbins
I'll tell you what, I will tell you this.
Sean Fenesi
Please stop pointing at me.
Chris Ryan
What happened? Did this kick in?
Sean Fenesi
I will tell you what.
Amanda Dobbins
It's pure protein. Yeah, I had the protein boost.
Sean Fenesi
You actually are now more channeling Margaret Thatcher. I would say if I had to choose a female leader. Yeah, the Iron Lady.
Amanda Dobbins
That's. I mean, listen, that's fine. Except for my hair. It's actually not fine. That's fine.
Sean Fenesi
That's fine.
Amanda Dobbins
Because of her policies, I'm down. Down with Margaret Thatcher. Down with Mar. Maggie, you seen that YouTube clip of the Irish lady?
Chris Ryan
Of course.
Amanda Dobbins
That's one of the great ones. The first film.
Sean Fenesi
What is going on?
Amanda Dobbins
The first down Nabi film made like.
Chris Ryan
$98 million as it continued its. Its box office.
Amanda Dobbins
2022 was a weird year at the box office. And I have to tell you, you down, Abby, the grand tour or whatever. The second one was called. Was an excellent film.
Sean Fenesi
Yeah. It was titled down Abby Colon F1.
Chris Ryan
There's nothing like getting two. Two hours deep into a pod and having you on the verge of tears. As you recall, the box office performance of ground down Abby 2.
Amanda Dobbins
Did you ever see Down Abby too?
Chris Ryan
No.
Amanda Dobbins
So Sybil. No, Sybil's dead. Sorry. Sybil's daughter.
Sean Fenesi
You cannot do this right now.
Amanda Dobbins
Inheritance inherits a mansion in France.
Chris Ryan
Okay.
Amanda Dobbins
Because. Well, actually, I guess Lady Violet inherits it. That's Maggie Smith.
Chris Ryan
She's still on the show.
Amanda Dobbins
Downton Abbey too. She was Force Ghost Maggie Smith and. But so then they all go to the south of France.
Chris Ryan
Did you ever see Flight Plan?
Amanda Dobbins
And the guy who is the. No, that's the Mel Gibson one. Right.
Sean Fenesi
This is like I. We do every episode together. This is what it's like all the time.
Amanda Dobbins
Like Rome. What was his name? The guy from the bureau who's like the handler, who's not the main guy?
Chris Ryan
Uhhuh. I don't. I don't remember. Honestly.
Amanda Dobbins
He's his long lost cousin. Okay.
Sean Fenesi
So down Abbey 1 made $198 million worldwide. Down Abbey 2 made $92 million worldwide.
Amanda Dobbins
Yeah, I. Again, I don't care.
Sean Fenesi
As I.
Amanda Dobbins
As I said when we started that I'm doing this for me. Okay? And I am fucking psyched for Downton the Grand Finale.
Sean Fenesi
I'm on the record as enjoying all of these movies. So Lily James will be appearing as Late Lady Rose. Matthew.
Amanda Dobbins
Matthew Good is not available for one day to film. Yes.
Sean Fenesi
He's being listed in the cast. He is listed in the cast of the Grand Finale.
Chris Ryan
And he's not Scottish in Department Q. He's an Englishman. But he's in Scotland working in Edinburgh.
Sean Fenesi
Yeah.
Amanda Dobbins
Okay.
Sean Fenesi
No, he's not listed. I lied.
Amanda Dobbins
Mm. He's not. It's too bad he's not in the trailer.
Chris Ryan
Do you really need a 50 ounce water if you're only gonna drink 3 ounces of it? Have you thought about that?
Amanda Dobbins
It's true that I. My hydration goals have been stymied. Stymied by my embrace of the free iced latte.
Sean Fenesi
Yeah. So I.
Amanda Dobbins
But I do. Because then you don't have to refill it as much.
Sean Fenesi
Much.
Chris Ryan
This is. This is your.
Sean Fenesi
I can get anything I want for $378.
Amanda Dobbins
Okay.
Sean Fenesi
H. Can you guys vamp for a second? Sure.
Chris Ryan
Here's some movies that I was like, kind of considering throwing out because I don't think Sean's going to throw any of these. Blue Moon, the Richard Linklater Movie about Lawrence Hart and his night at Sardis with Ethan Hawk.
Sean Fenesi
Very excited about that.
Chris Ryan
Margaret Qualley. Andrew Scott, who apparently gives a wonderful performance in this film. Film. And then a movie I would like to see with you.
Amanda Dobbins
Yes.
Chris Ryan
It's called Pressure, and it's directed by John Carney, and it's about a meteorologist who has to give the D Day weather forecast. And it also stars Andrew Scott.
Sean Fenesi
Wow.
Chris Ryan
Yeah.
Amanda Dobbins
Yes.
Chris Ryan
Yeah.
Amanda Dobbins
Let's go.
Sean Fenesi
Yeah.
Chris Ryan
And there's an American guy in it, but it's not Scoot McNary. But it was something where I was like, holy, there's an American guy in this pressure movie.
Amanda Dobbins
I'm Googling it now. Well, no, that's about. About sea diving. But Matthew Good is apparently in the 2015 film Pressure. Pressure Movie. Andrew Scott.
Chris Ryan
The other one that I was really kind of fired up about, but I don't think Sean is gonna take is Sacrifice, which is the new film from Romaine Garvis, who made Athena. And this is a movie. What's that? Sorry. And this one's Anya Taylor Joy and Chris Evans.
Amanda Dobbins
Evans.
Chris Ryan
And Anya Taylor Joy plays a political radical who kidnaps a movie star played by Chris Evans.
Sean Fenesi
Oh, don't know if that's coming out.
Chris Ryan
This year, but I just was saying that I. I'm interested.
Amanda Dobbins
Is Nouvel Vogue coming out this year?
Sean Fenesi
It is.
Amanda Dobbins
Okay. I mean, but also Netflix, which is why I. I've got. I'm too heavy on Netflix.
Chris Ryan
You're also going to miss lots.
Amanda Dobbins
Well, I know, but that's why I did Downton Abbey, the grand finale.
Sean Fenesi
Can I throw out some things I'm thinking about? Of?
Amanda Dobbins
Yeah, sure.
Sean Fenesi
I'm thinking of on the Netflix side. Wake up, dead Man. Which feels like a return to a slightly more serious tone for Ryan Johnson.
Amanda Dobbins
Okay.
Sean Fenesi
Starring Josh o' Connor as a priest. Or is he.
Amanda Dobbins
Or is he.
Sean Fenesi
Frankenstein? Gdt. I didn't think I'd have much competition for you guys, but I am looking forward to it.
Amanda Dobbins
Ch Paa.
Sean Fenesi
You think Frankenstein will sing Ch Papa in the film?
Amanda Dobbins
Frankenstein is also a fascist.
Chris Ryan
The Doctor or the.
Amanda Dobbins
The monster Guillermo del Toro made? Well, I mean, I think Pinocchio, like, maybe had fascist origins. I'm not really sure, but yeah, he was in.
Chris Ryan
You know, it's crazy. Mussolini's grandson got signed by an Italian soccer club, and he looks a lot like him.
Sean Fenesi
That's great.
Amanda Dobbins
Does he. He doesn't use Mussolini.
Chris Ryan
He sure does. I don't know if you visited Italy recently, but you're about to get a.
Amanda Dobbins
Okay.
Sean Fenesi
Does he do, like the whole. The stance and the posture and the.
Chris Ryan
No looking him up.
Sean Fenesi
The secret agent. I'm thinking about Clabber Mendoka Filo's movie. Brazilian film starring Mora.
Amanda Dobbins
Okay.
Sean Fenesi
Begonia.
Amanda Dobbins
Yeah. You do see it. Yeah.
Sean Fenesi
Grazi Milligrazi.
Chris Ryan
Of course. He's playing for Latzi.
Amanda Dobbins
Gosh.
Sean Fenesi
The mastermind.
Chris Ryan
Yeah.
Amanda Dobbins
Yeah.
Sean Fenesi
Kelly Reichert's Kelly Reichert.
Chris Ryan
Hell yeah.
Amanda Dobbins
Is the drama coming out this year?
Sean Fenesi
It's on my list. I don't know.
Chris Ryan
It's not.
Amanda Dobbins
That's another one. That's the Robert Pattinson Zendaya A24 experience. I'm open to it.
Sean Fenesi
As you can see. It's. So the movies I got left on my list just to keep previewing things. Predator Badlands we briefly mentioned. I did put the Fantastic Four first steps.
Chris Ryan
It looks like Sanding lives on a planet of predators.
Sean Fenesi
It does. I believe she's an Android.
Chris Ryan
Well, she definitely gets like. Her eyes do something funny.
Sean Fenesi
Yeah.
Chris Ryan
But she seems like she's pretty human in her response to the.
Sean Fenesi
We should do a watch along of Killer of Killers with Amanda and she's never seen it before. Oh, yeah. Animated Predator film.
Amanda Dobbins
Okay.
Sean Fenesi
It's an omnibus movie about four different figures in history who have gone toe to toe with a predator.
Chris Ryan
You know how we were talking about. About Craig.
Amanda Dobbins
But don't tell me who they are.
Sean Fenesi
I won't. I'm just saying Mary Poppins.
Amanda Dobbins
But I would.
Sean Fenesi
Are they like Julia Robertson, Mother's Day.
Amanda Dobbins
Are they obscure pieces like figures in history? Or is it like Napoleon?
Sean Fenesi
They're archetypal warriors.
Amanda Dobbins
Okay. But not Napoleon.
Sean Fenesi
Not. No famous figures in history. More, you know, it's like a samurai.
Amanda Dobbins
For the next movie. Okay.
Sean Fenesi
Okay. That's good. I would say that Running Man.
Amanda Dobbins
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Sean Fenesi
Tron Aries.
Chris Ryan
No, didn't CR. Take that in the first auction.
Sean Fenesi
Oh, yes, you did. That's right. Thank you, Jack.
Chris Ryan
Tron Aries. No.
Amanda Dobbins
There'S another one I was interested in.
Chris Ryan
Kaczynski did the first Tron reboot. Right.
Sean Fenesi
He did. You Tron.
Amanda Dobbins
Smashing Machine.
Sean Fenesi
I've already seen it.
Amanda Dobbins
Yeah. So I should.
Chris Ryan
I should have thought about Supreme.
Sean Fenesi
You could have had the Safdie double.
Amanda Dobbins
I could have. And my heart. I do.
Sean Fenesi
Yeah. In my spiritual board I have the Smashing Machine.
Amanda Dobbins
Okay.
Sean Fenesi
But unfortunately I can't select it here. I'll take Predator Badlands just for kicks.
Amanda Dobbins
Okay.
Sean Fenesi
Movie. That's probably not going to score me too many points, but I'm super excited about. And Trachtenberg does.
Chris Ryan
We're doing the. For me.
Sean Fenesi
Have fun List. Trachtenberg has been killing it. 10 Cloverfield Lane. Prey. Hey. Killer of killers. And now Predator Badlands. Well, we'll do it for $1.
Chris Ryan
For $1. So we're all going to walk out of here with cash.
Amanda Dobbins
No, I didn't. I spent at all.
Chris Ryan
Oh, how?
Amanda Dobbins
Yeah, but it doesn't go anywhere, so.
Chris Ryan
Well, we'll see.
Sean Fenesi
We'll listen to the weapons pod and see where that money goes. You know, that's what it's all about.
Chris Ryan
Find these kids.
Sean Fenesi
Let's recap our picks. Chris, why don't you go first?
Chris Ryan
I got ballot of a small player for 165, weapons for 465. Is this thing on? $70. Now you see me, colon. Now you don't. For $36. And for $60, I got Bruce Springsteen, Deliver Me from Nowhere. You're fucking killing it. Look at that.
Sean Fenesi
That's a really weird board, you know.
Amanda Dobbins
You wouldn't want it any other way.
Sean Fenesi
I'm happy for you. Avatar Fire and Ash for $300 for me. Superman for 62 bucks. Hamnet for doll, an accident for $41. And Predator Badlands for $1.
Amanda Dobbins
We got after the Hunt for $260. Roofman for $100. J. Kelly for $420. A House of Dynamite for $180. And Down Abbey, the grand finale for $40.
Chris Ryan
I got to say, you could be such a goofball. And then, like, as soon as you do voiceover, you're like. And then I got House of Dynamite and I.
Sean Fenesi
That was your NPR voice.
Chris Ryan
I love it.
Amanda Dobbins
Thank you.
Sean Fenesi
The thing about this game, which is very stupid, is that we can put this graphic on social media. People can be like, oh, my God, this person did amazing. It's all contextual. It's all about the flow of the game when it's happening.
Chris Ryan
Maybe instead we should just put a picture of Mussolini's grandson up.
Sean Fenesi
We'll probably do better numbers.
Amanda Dobbins
Great grandson.
Sean Fenesi
Yeah.
Chris Ryan
Great grandson.
Sean Fenesi
Yeah. That's it.
Amanda Dobbins
That's a good one.
Sean Fenesi
No other thoughts? We're talking about Superman later this week. We're seeing it tomorrow. How you feeling?
Amanda Dobbins
I'm excited. I wish we had time for dinner beforehand.
Sean Fenesi
Oh, do we not? I guess we don't.
Amanda Dobbins
Yeah. Because of our children.
Sean Fenesi
Yeah. Shoot. What about after? Can break it all down.
Amanda Dobbins
Okay.
Sean Fenesi
Talk about that immigrant story. No.
Chris Ryan
You could do the pod before the pod.
Sean Fenesi
I know it's tough. You and Andy don't do that. You guys task.
Chris Ryan
We try not to. To retext you text.
Sean Fenesi
Amanda and I rarely talk about the movie.
Chris Ryan
Andy likes to text during his watching of episodes.
Amanda Dobbins
Okay. And how do you feel about that?
Sean Fenesi
That sounds terrible.
Chris Ryan
Well, it's usually quite charming, intelligent and funny, but I'm always like, save it for the pod.
Amanda Dobbins
Yeah, it's tough. Now I'm hungry.
Sean Fenesi
Thanks. Thanks to our producer, Jack Sanders, for his work on this episode. No, thanks to Sam for cooking up this new scoring system. And we'll see you for Superman. Bye.
Hosts: Sean Fennessey & Amanda Dobbins
Guest: Chris Ryan
After bypassing the initial advertisements and introductions, Sean Fennessey and Amanda Dobbins welcome returning guest Chris Ryan to discuss the mid-year movie auction, marking the halfway point of the year.
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Sean Fennessey [00:50]: "Big Picture conversation show about auctioning. It is the midway point of the year, and so we are auctioning once again to fill out our slates, which means Chris Ryan's here. Hi, Chris, how are you?"
Sean recalls a memorable night watching "The Wild Bunch" in a special 70mm format, highlighting the enduring spirit of cinema in Hollywood. Chris shares his astonishment at the vibrant movie culture, even amidst unexpected events like a Trump rally.
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Sean Fennessey [01:00]: "Last time I saw you, we were crying arm in arm watching the wild bunch on 70 millimeter Egyptian experience. It was a magical night."
The hosts mourn the tragic passing of Michael Madsen, reflecting on his prolific career and memorable roles, especially in Quentin Tarantino's films.
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Sean Fennessey [02:34]: "Michael Madsen, the great Michael Madsen would have fit right in. He passed away at 67 on July 3rd. Tragically."
They analyze the recent release "Jurassic World Rebirth," which debuted with $147 million domestically. Chris points out Scarlett Johansson's ascent to becoming one of the most successful movie stars due to her involvement in long-running franchises.
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Chris Ryan [04:20]: "Scarlett Johansson is our most successful movie star now."
Sean introduces a revamped movie auction system, acknowledging past shortcomings and presenting a new tiered scoring system developed with the help of Sam Burtwistle. The system assigns points based on box office milestones, Metacritic scores, and Oscar nominations, aiming for a more structured and competitive slate.
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Sean Fennessey [08:07]: "Sam made a proposition about the scoring system that we have for the movie auction."
Sean elaborates on the tiered point allocations:
They discuss potential additions like live scoring during auctions, inspired by shows like "Around the Horn."
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Sean Fennessey [09:59]: "There's a exceedingly high chance it will be nominated, at least for Best sound."
Chris nominates "Ballad of a Small Player," expressing confidence in its Oscar potential despite its Netflix affiliation.
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Chris Ryan [30:00]: "I think it's going to be seen by a lot of people, and it feels like a good bet, so I'm going to go with that."
Amanda selects "Opus," "Phoenician Scheme," and "Marty Supreme," balancing personal favorites with critical acclaim.
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Amanda Dobbins [17:53]: "Phoenician Scheme, which is another one of my favorite movies of the year."
Sean focuses on "Avatar Fire and Ash," "Superman," and "Hamnet," among others, strategically aiming for high-scoring films.
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Sean Fennessey [20:58]: "I loved 77. Metacritic score, $60 million box office domestically."
A heated bidding war erupts over "Superman," with Sean starting at $62, Amanda escalating to $375, and Chris pushing the bid to $400, reflecting their strong interest and differing perspectives on the film's potential.
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Amanda Dobbins [134:54]: "I'm really into this movie for $400 for me."
The hosts recap their final selections:
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Chris Ryan [136:08]: "I got ballot of a small player for 165, weapons for 465."
The episode concludes with the hosts expressing excitement for their next viewing of "Superman," discussing logistics around family commitments, and teasing future movie discussions. They also touch upon their personal lives and interests, maintaining a blend of professional analysis and personal anecdotes.
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Sean Fennesi [138:01]: "Thanks to our producer, Jack Sanders, for his work on this episode. No, thanks to Sam for cooking up this new scoring system. And we'll see you for Superman. Bye."
Sean Fennessey, Amanda Dobbins, and Chris Ryan engage in a dynamic and strategic mid-year movie auction, integrating a newly developed scoring system to enhance competitiveness and fairness. Their discussions span critical analyses of recent releases, personal preferences, and insights into the evolving landscape of Hollywood cinema. The episode underscores their passion for movies and their commitment to providing thoughtful recommendations and engaging discussions for their audience.