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I'm Sean Fennessy.
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I'm Amanda Dobbins.
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And this is the Big Picture, a conversation show about New York City. Okay, I know.
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All right. Okay. Okay. Thank you.
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As you may have surmised, based on the boards behind us, we will be drafting tonight. What are we drafting?
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New York City.
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So New York City movies. We do have some special guests. Before we bring them out, one. I would like to say thank you to LinkedIn ads for sponsoring this event, which is we're really appreciative of. Thank you for being here tonight. Thank you to the 92nd Street Y. This is very special.
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Thank you to all of you for coming.
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Before we begin, we're gonna do some trivia.
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Mm.
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The trivia is sponsored by our friends at the Criterion Collection. If you get a trivia question correct, you will get a special bag full of some Criterion sponsored stuff. If you're here, I'm assuming you love physical media. What do you want to say about the trivia?
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We wrote it ourselves and it is. It is quite hard. This is gonna be an honor system situation that when we were in Chicago, Sean was very clear, you know, no goofy stuff. Okay? If you raise your hand and you don't, it's okay if you don't know the answer and it's okay if you have a really good joke, but it should be like, excellent. Otherwise, you know, we're all gonna work together. I have great news for the balcony. You guys are in game this time. Okay? I wanna let everyone at the balcony know and in the very back, kind of under the balcony, that it is hard to see you right now. So you're going to need to wave. You're going to. You Know if you know it. Be confident.
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Don't yell.
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Yeah, don't. And don't yell out the answer. The microphone is going to come to you. It is your moment.
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Let's start. Okay, so we're going to. We're going to read the question, and you're going to raise your hand, and you're going to act like a civilized person. Amanda, I think. I think you wrote the first question, did you not?
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I did. Hold on. I'm just loading it. I'm not on my phone right now. Okay, this is a fairly easy one. Oh, good. They changed lights. But still, you know, be aggressive. Believe in yourself if you know it. Name five best picture winners set in New York City. Okay, well, you. You know, it's sort of a Jeopardy thing for you where you do have to wait till it's done, but he was very early. Okay, everybody else, there's a.
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There's a. There's a man on the front, far right side who waved both hands, which means he definitely can do this. Don't screw this up.
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Sir, stand up.
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Come on, stand up, please. All right, don't applaud him. Save your applause for after he's answered the question, please.
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One, Kramer versus Kramer.
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Two.
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Birdman.
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Three.
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Godfather four.
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Uh.
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Annie hall.
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Five.
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Five.
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The question is, would you have accepted.
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Godfather two, Godfather two?
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Yeah, absolutely. I would argue Godfather two is the superior New York movie.
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I agree. You know, but it is, you know, more spread out.
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Sure, but I mean, we're literally coming off of Ellis island into New York City.
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I get it.
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Okay, second question. New York filmmaking icon Spike Lee has never won best director at the Oscars. Boo. But this classmate and friend of his from NYU film school has won twice. Who is the director right here in the front. This. That is the first hand I saw.
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Is it Ang Lee?
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That's correct.
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All right, all right, you asked the next one, and then I'll do number four.
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Okay, one more Oscars question, then we're done with that. This recent Academy Award winner's second and third features films are featured in the Criterion Collection. Who is the director in question, and what are the films right here? These are hard, guys.
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Oh, now I'm scared. Is it Sean Baker with the Prince of Broadway and Anora?
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You've got two of three.
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Take out. Can I say take out?
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Can I do it?
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Come on.
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Yes, take out.
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Congratulations.
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That is the question.
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There we go.
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Was that the only. The only person who raised their hand for that answer? Did anybody else even raise their hand? Wow.
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All right.
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Damn.
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We're Changing lanes here a little. Where in New York City does the devil wears Pradas? Andy Sachs pick up an early galley of the last Harry Potter book? Okay. Right there, front and center. You can do it. Doesn't she meet his character at the St. Regis Hotel to pick it up from Christmas? Oh, oh, the Magnolia Room. So close. And it's not. And I'm really. But I.
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That is incorrect.
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Okay. All right, you're waving. We have one back here. Who's waving? I'm really. Listen, you're very close. Yeah, back there. Double hands. That's right. There you go. That's some real Amanda. I know the answer. Energy. I do know the answer. It is the King Cole Bar. Bingo.
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That's correct.
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You should go. It is very fun.
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Well done. Okay, this is a long one. 13 feature films directed by Martin Scorsese are primarily set in New York. Name ten green hat on the end here.
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Ringer hat. All right.
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Thank you for wearing a ringer hat. I wish I had one of those. I am nervous.
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Okay, so we got Goodfellas.
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Yes.
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Taxi Driver.
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Yes.
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Wolf of Wall Street.
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Yes.
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Gangs of New York.
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Yes.
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This is four.
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Six more. This is not hard. Mean Streets. Yes. Oh, boy. No hints. Please.
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Listen, but don't turn away. Free knowledge that's given to you also.
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That is very fair. If you cannot get it, someone will be able to pick up right where you left off.
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Okay.
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Tap in.
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Oh, that's nice. I have love for all of you.
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Wanna choose someone?
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Yeah, over here. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're waving. Okay, good.
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Do I get his four? You get his five. Yes, he got five.
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But can you remember which five they are? And can we.
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Did he say if you repeat one of his five, you have to leave the show? I got it. I get it. Did he say Mean Streets? He did. All right. Okay. So let's work chronologically. Did he say tax? Folks, if you don't know the answers, don't raise your hand. I know the answer. Taxi driver, say taxi. New York, New York. Let's just. Let's get on the board. New York, New York is six. New York, New York. I don't think. Rachel. Keep going. After hours, sir. This is being recorded. Gangs of New York. Age of Innocence.
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Yeah, that one.
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That was Age of Innocence. Yes. That's seven. I'm gonna say safely, not condone. Gangs of New York. Chronologically. King of comedy. Definitely in 83. Technically, 83.
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Okay, wait, does that count?
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What did he say?
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He said king of Comedy. But King of Comedy.
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Yes, that counts. Where am I at. That's three. You need two more. Okay, two more. We are gonna turn a clock on. Not silence. We have to leave here by a certain time.
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Hugo is in France.
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Yeah.
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Raging Bull. Raging Bull, yes. That's nine.
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That's what this was, by the way, in case anyone was Boxcar Bertha.
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Pardon me?
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Boxcar Berth.
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No, Boxcar Bertha is not a New York film.
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Okay, but listen, a valiant effort.
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Okay, so we need one more. You pick. I'm not picking.
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Okay, all right.
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I said after hours.
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After waving double hands. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Number 10 is the Irishman.
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That's correct.
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That was sort of a team effort. So if you want to share your Blu Rays, you know, it's really up to you.
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You probably should share your Blu Rays. That's something I would recommend. Answers we did not hear from that category. Who's that Knocking at my Door? His first feature film. After Hours, Shame on you guys and Bringing out the Dead. Okay, next one.
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One of the New York City movie discs in the gift bag is the Daytrippers, a Long island to New York City family dramedy that Sean adores. Eleven years transpired between the Day Trippers, who and director Greg Mottola's next film. What was it? I mean, you were in my sight line, but. Yeah, Superbad. Correct.
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Superbad is correct.
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Yeah, Superbad.
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Okay, we have four more questions, four more gift bags. Alfred Hitchcock rarely featured New York City in his work, but the conclusion of one of his movies is set at the top of the Statue of Liberty. What is the film? This guy right here is the first hand. I saw Saboteur. That's right, Saboteur.
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Do you want to do this one?
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Nine, and then I'll do eight. What's your preference? I mean, why don't you do the next two?
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Okay. I mean, I wrote the last three, but that's okay. In When Harry Met Sally, of course, typecasting the iconic I'll have what she's having scene takes place at Katz's Deli. I like the enthusiasm. After Sally concludes her fake orgasm, she calmly takes a bite of food. What does she eat? All right. I saw you over there. Yes. And the. Yes. Yeah.
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A turkey sandwich.
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No. Okay, all right. Yes. Enthusiasm.
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Wait. Wait for a microphone.
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Yeah, wait for a mic.
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By the way, I wrote this question. You didn't write this question.
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Oh, that's right. You did write this. Yeah, sorry, sorry.
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It is. What is a pastrami sandwich?
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No, no.
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Okay, all right. Right here. Yeah. Okay. The Yankees hat is an interesting choice for the show. But we'll give it to you anyway. I heard it wasn't going well.
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A Reuben?
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No. Oh, now she's a good question. In the white sweater.
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Because you don't listen to women. That's the problem.
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It's a white sweater. V neck. It's great. Coleslaw.
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Yes, coleslaw is correct. Because of course you have to get coleslaw at Katz's Deli. Okay, next one.
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Oh, sorry, my phone locked. What is the address of the Tenenbaum family home in Wes Anderson's the Royal Tenenbaums?
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Ooh, ooh.
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Oh, we've got it in the back. Two of you. Okay.
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111 Archer Avenue.
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There we go.
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Very good, Very good. I wouldn't have been able to get that. Okay, our final trivia question. This is the last one. What time is it? This is.
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This is a key tenant. It's a key tenant of the Rebellion. I'm surprised you can't name it. What's up, New York? What's going on?
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Okay.
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Yeah, there you go. All right, there's a. In the center. Up top in the. Yeah, center in the balcony.
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Up top with the beard. Yes.
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Wait for the mic.
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Wait for the mic, Wait for the.
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Mic, wait for the mic. Don't clap. Sir, please be patient. This is the Rebellion. We're not trying to rush our meal at McDonald's. Time doesn't exist yet.
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It controls us anyway.
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That's correct.
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That is my favorite line from Tron. Ares Man.
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If there are any long suffering significant others in attendance, number one, welcome. Thank you. And number two, that is a reference to Paul Thomas Anderson's latest film, One Battle after another.
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Chris Ryan is here.
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What's up here?
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We would never draft without Chris Ryan. But we were talking about what would be the best way to have a New York City movie draft. And we have two very close friends who live in New York City. We're going to bring them right out right now from blank check. David Sims and Griffin Newman.
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Hello.
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Hey, guys.
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Woo.
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Let's go Mets.
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Hey, guys, they're going to put your. Your three names up there at the end of the night, right? Emerson, Einstein, Bach, Beethoven, Fantasy Dobbins.
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Quite embarrassing. James Baldwin was once in this one. What are you doing here? Susan Sontag. You know, I got a whole history of the 92nd Street War.
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Top five whys. Where's this one rank for you?
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It's technically 92. Okay, so five movie podcasters on one stage. Before we draft, we usually talk about the subject of the draft and what it means to Us now, all five of us have lived inside of this city. We've spent some time here. The three of us no longer do on any regular basis.
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Cowards.
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I accept.
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Yeah, you know, I mean, David's joking. It's very generous of you three to invite us onto the show tonight. I think what he meant to say is, you're quitters.
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Be that as it may, Chris, Ryan, why don't I start with you? New York City. Yeah. What does it mean to you and what does it mean to the movies?
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Well, this is gonna be a really fun draft and a very easy draft to prepare for. Cause these are just the best movies. It's true sometimes we set ourselves very difficult challenges when it comes to draft topics, but this isn't one of them. You go through the list of New York movies, it's pretty routine. Like, oh, this is like my third favorite movie. I'll just put it right here. So I'm excited to do this. New York City. What does it mean to me? I mean, I spent 11 years here. It has always occupied a huge part of my imagination. Due in no small part to the movies that we're going to talk about tonight.
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Amanda, what about you?
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I mean, same. I moved here in 2006 right after college because of all the things that I saw in the movies. So. So I miss it very much. I'm really, really glad to be back right now. And I grew up here. I think I was a child somewhere else, but I learned everything that I think is worth knowing and met most everyone that I think is worth knowing, including everyone on this stage in New York City. So I'm very glad to be back.
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Amanda, did you move here before or after Devil Wears Prada?
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It was same year.
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So same year. And I saw it. It was the summer after I graduated college and I saw it at, I think the 80s. Where on the Upper West Street.
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Lowe's.
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Yeah. I remember being like, yeah, this is it. This is exactly what I was born to do. And then, you know, other things happened.
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Griffin, I think you're the only one of us that was born and fully raised here. Is that right?
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Well, David, right? You grew up in New York and lived here your entire life.
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Fuck out of here.
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Set that up for you.
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Shit is illegal.
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Put that on the T for blank checks.
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Yeah. No, I'm born and bred and broken. I tried to go to college in California and ran back screaming.
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It spat him back out.
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It spat me back out. I spat back at them, but they had won. It was more.
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Well, let me ask you about that since then.
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Yeah.
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You lived here. So the movies maybe held a little bit of the less, like, magical appeal, having been inside of it while seeing the movies.
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Yes. But I do. I do feel like even the most gritty, neorealistic New York movies do kind of present a more ecstatic version of New York. You know, there is a great many, like, stylized, fantastical movies that are here in New York that could never quite exist. But even when you see, like, the down and dirty New York movies, you're like, yeah. It's never quite the reflection of what's out your window. Yeah.
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David, what about your circuitous route back here?
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I did. I left at the age of nine and came back at the age of 22, and I spent the intervening years falling in love with movies.
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But.
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And where. Where were.
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All right.
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London, England, baby.
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Woo.
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North London. Go go, Gunners. I figured that. I figured that'd land. All right, you know what? You know what?
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Not on my podcast.
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Thank you. I don't know what's happening right now.
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And I think I spent. I spent all my adolescence being like, I'm a New Yorker, and then watching all these movies and, like, it becoming very religious for me. That, like, yes, again, somewhat romantic vision of the city even at its dirtiest. Like, me being like, I gotta get back there. And then I got back here, and here I am.
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Let's go Mets. Let's go Mets. I couldn't agree with that more. So many sad Yankee fans out there tonight. Sorry, guys, I. Phillies are, by the way.
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I was gonna say. How are they doing?
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Phillies are winning.
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Yeah, Phillies are what?
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They're winning, by the way.
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We do, like, every 20 minutes, get a Phillies score update.
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Yeah. If the Phillies continue to win, feel free to shout out, did they pull Shohei?
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Is he off already? Yeah.
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Yeah. I'm from Long island, so I felt.
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No, he's still fishing.
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Very close to, but not a part of New York City, which is an unusual way to grow up. Most of my family is from New York City, and I probably revered it more because I felt that close to it. And then by the time I was a teenager, started coming all the time. But I too, also felt formed by watching it on the big screen and hearing about people who lived there and the things that they were doing, which always seemed much more interesting than the things that I was doing. And then I moved here and it was cold and mean, and I was like, I got to get out of here. And I did. But I'm happy to be back. So we are going to draft. We have six categories to draft from here. So if you're here in the audience, you can see them on the big board. The categories are drama, comedy, action, horror, thriller, Oscar winner, box office and Subway.
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Those are sandwich movies in the last category. It is funny. You ended up with basically the $5 foot long subway logo in the color scheme.
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It is true.
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No free ads.
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Uh huh.
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You're just the guy to revive Subway's fortunes. You're just like the straight shooter is just like, I'm going to bring sandwiches back in this country.
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No comment. Subway, of course, is any movie that features an iconic Subway Subway scene. So think hard in the recesses of your mind about movies that you like.
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That are you just introduced iconic into the conversation.
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That was just him being lazy. It can just be a subway scene.
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It doesn't have to be iconic, just any subway scene.
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Yes.
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It's like man gets on subway in a movie.
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Well, yeah, that sounds terrible.
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Why would you draft that?
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We're deeming it iconic. That's being drafted.
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It's if you remember that it happened. Guys, I was iconic.
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What are you talking about?
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Yeah, but you're not. You did not add that information until this point.
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You said pivotal.
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Pivotal scene on a subway. Okay, Pivotal.
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Yeah, I accept.
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Okay.
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I have a genuine question on this topic. Must one board the train for it to count as a subway scene? I don't think it's in the station.
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Yeah, I don't, I don't. What do you guys think?
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No, no, no.
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If you're in a station, you are in the subway. I would say.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Like if you, you know, if you've gone down to the platform or whatever, you're at the subway, you're in the subway.
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I rode the subway five times yesterday and it's still annoying.
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Give me your lines.
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Hey, fuck you.
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We love the subway.
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What lines was I in? R. Great. You got.
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It's a bad train.
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You guys paid for this. I was on the two.
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I was on the F. Yeah. Did you get asked for a Subway take?
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Did I get asked, you know, like.
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Why are we on it somewhere, if only.
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No.
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Yeah.
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No.
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Do you want to get one?
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Yeah.
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What's yours?
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No, not one that I can share.
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Yeah.
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They'Re largely about the sandwich company subway and.
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Any stray subway thoughts before we figure out our draft order.
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Well, I asked if Gotham was eligible for this draft and you said no, Gotham City.
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Gotham is not a real city. Right. It's not a real city in the world of Batman, who is not a real Person you don't know that? Is anyone here? Batman tonight. Is Batman here?
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So Joker's not eligible for Subway for anything?
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I mean, I don't think so. What do you. You want Gotham to be a part of the draft board tonight?
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No, I don't.
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I was just stirring things up.
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Hold on, though. Hold on. Because we have precedent. Dark Knight.
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It's a Chicago movie.
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Was it eligible in the Chicago draft?
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I don't even remember. Did it get drafted you guys, though better than we did?
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Yeah, it did.
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Yeah.
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Who drafted it? Tracy Letts.
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No, I didn't.
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Tracy Letts, who has not seen it.
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I don't think he's seen Dark Knight.
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But he owns the Blu Ray tr.
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See, the trench run sucks. Let's.
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Yeah.
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He just. He just tossed that take out. He was just like, oh, by the way, trench run.
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We all agree that Star wars has a shitty ending, right? Waiting for you guys to jump in. And that was a good Tracy.
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Even with the hand. Yeah. We love you, Tracy.
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He has won Pulitzer and Tony Awards. And the first line of his obituary will be, guy who said the trench run sucks has died. Top. We love you, Tracy.
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To appear in a Disney plus show about the trench run from a guy working on the Death Star's perspective.
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No.
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Fuck.
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Why do we even have a trench?
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How did he make this shot?
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Jack, you might have to delete all this. Speaking of Jack, we have to set our draft order. Yeah, so let's do that.
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Jack, can you tell us what kind of hat is being used tonight?
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Unfortunately, a New York Metropolitan sat.
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Bring Pete back.
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You don't want to come out.
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You don't want a shining moment.
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I can see Jack.
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Any cost.
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I'm with you. I want to bring Pete back.
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People like the voice of God.
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All right. We love you.
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All right, here we go. No Top Gun hat. Shout out. Bobby Wagner in the building.
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Bobby.
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Where are you? Wave, Bob. I can't see Bob. Oh, there he is. Hi, Bob.
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I'm seeing Wes. Where is he? I'm not worried about this. Can see the mustache in the shadow. Yeah.
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I had dinner with Bobby last night. He told me specifically to rig this draft for cr. And in fact, he has the first pick.
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All right.
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All right, everyone, welcome. Elizabeth.
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This is so official.
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Selecting second, Amanda Dobbins. Okay. Third will be Griffin Newman.
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Right.
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Wow.
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Fourth, Sean fifth.
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Oh, but you get the right Where.
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I want to be, baby.
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Yeah, I was gonna say.
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All right, so we're going to draft. Do you know. Do you. In your heart of hearts, did you think there was always a first pick. There was always a place I was going to go.
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Well, so do you want to mention the blockbuster is a $50 million threshold, so it makes it a slightly tighter category. But the film I'm going to pick while I'm picking it in Blockbuster is also just the one that I think reflects my experience in New York. The most Raging Bull. And it is Die Hard With a Vengeance.
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Wow.
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Wow.
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I.
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A great pick.
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I worked tirelessly as a mime in Central park, and you have no idea what taxi cabs would do to get across the park. No, this is. We just did this on Rewatchables recently. I saw it on a big screen recently. It is such an incredible beat for beat action movie set fully within the rules of New York City to the extent that the Sawmill River Parkway works that way and features so much of the city. So I thought it was just like a great big canvas. And also I get a blockbuster.
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I think they're looking furiously for Die Hard With a Vengeance because.
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Are you serious?
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No one saw that coming as the first overall pick. Did you know Martin Scorsese was born here?
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Yeah, I'll get Scorsese. Scorsese's down the line. I'll get all sorts of stuff down.
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There are 13 of them.
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There are more dirty cops than there are picks to pick from here. I can only get John McLean following an ambulance down an avenue once.
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Are you. Are you like. How do you feel?
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I'm. I'm torn here because I definitely thought he was going to pick another movie. First pick. And I want it. And. And I do. Also, there's a strategic thing here right. Where I am going to have to wait for a while. And there are some films I want that I know you two in particular will also want.
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Wow.
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So Elizabeth is asking how to spell vengeance. She's like, what movie is this for the first overall pick?
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I really love this movie.
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I would never take it.
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They had, like, 3,000 cards printed. And then we went off with the Home Alone too.
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It's okay. I know you love the supporting cast in that film.
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Do you remember? Do you remember? We did. I want to say it was the 2013 movie draft. And cr. Out of nowhere took Iron Man 3. First overall, great movie.
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Best Marvel movie. And it was a Marvel movie.
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We were in. It was in Covid, and. And Amanda and I were just like, dog. What?
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And then what happened to this podcast? It went to the Moon man.
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Okay.
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Okay. Die Hard with vengeance. So, Amanda, you have a choice, and that's going in Blockbuster.
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Yes.
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Okay.
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I am. There's one. These are both from my heart. But there's one that would be more strategically advantageous. And then there's one that I just have to have. And I have learned doing this with these psychos for so many years that you gotta take what you want. So in Subway, I will be taking a movie with a pivotal subway scene. In many ways, it is the inciting drama of the film, and that is Noah Baumbach's Frances Ha.
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Wow. Wow. This is a crazy sub.
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What is going on?
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This is crazy.
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This is not where I thought you were going in that ramp up.
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I love that movie.
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It is one of my favorite movies of the last 10 years of my lifetime. I was. Okay, good. We got that one. Yeah. Thank you so much.
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Frances Ha was lickety split. That was right there. Elizabeth knew what was coming.
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She's nimble.
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I am a Bombach devotee, as. As are you. And I remember watching Kicking and Screaming in college and being like, I wish I could be that smart. And then Frances Ha was released in 2013, I guess, here. But I was. I was one year older than Frances Ha when it was and was released, and I was also living in Brooklyn, and I have. I have not had a professional dance career or even a semi professional dance career, but, yeah, that's true, you know, and the choreography is quite promising, but I was also flailing. And so the magic of that movie is that it is both then, like, the most magical New York of the movies and of my mind that I imagined before I lived here, and also the New York that I experienced. And it's. I mean, it's. It's beautiful. It's my favorite. So if you haven't seen it, I recommend it. And what's Subway?
D
I was going to say the same.
B
Thing when Mickey Sumner is when Sophie tells Frances that she's moving in with Patch.
C
Yeah.
B
Which. There. There lies all the problems, you know?
C
Yeah. It's just. I love that movie, and I have it on.
A
Listen, teleport to the fifth round of this draft.
E
Like, what is going on?
B
You love Francis.
A
It's a. I do love it. I think. Absolute masterpiece. But, yeah, I'm just. This is two picks in a row that I just did not see coming.
B
Okay, well, fine. Take Goodfellas. Go ahead.
A
I'm going to take Good fellas.
B
For God's sake.
C
All right, all right.
A
And Oscar winner. I'll take Goodfellas.
C
It's not your pick, Sean.
A
God damn it.
B
Do it.
A
Griffin.
E
Dude, you're the funniest thing ever.
C
But you have something loaded that wasn't that. Maybe not.
D
I had. I had a big three and none of them have been taken yet.
C
Right.
A
Okay.
D
I'm a little surprised DH with a.
E
V is not in your big three.
D
It was four.
C
I. I do want to say it was four.
A
All right.
D
It was on the board. It was on the board.
C
DH with a V has a great subway scene. I had that on my side.
D
I would have drafted in Blockbuster. Was my strategy there.
A
Just tell us what they are. Just list all of them.
D
No, I am going to in Oscar winner draft Dog Day Afternoon.
A
Okay.
B
Okay. Good one.
C
Oh, sure.
D
It is less of a strategic play and more if I look deep into my soul. That is my knee jerk. Greatest New York movie of all time. Answer.
E
Good pick.
C
Lumet, your favorite guy.
D
Lumet. One of my absolute favorites. One of the great New York directors and I think a little undersung in the canon of the great New York directors and made so many great New York masterpieces. Not on this show, but it's. I'm gonna say it. It is kind of the ultimate New York City as a character movie. The three ring circus of that film. The way it is all about the. This city reacting to the central drama. It's the. It's the. It's the best. It rules.
C
It's about New York rooting for an underdog, too. It's got, you know, that spirit. It's one of the great Outer Burrow movies.
B
Yes.
C
Which I thought of as like a. Pitching that as a category. Like outer Bur.
A
Outer. We thought of all five Burrows.
C
That would have been crazy. We talked about that.
A
That would have been hard. King of Staten island number one overall for Chris.
B
Yeah.
A
Still on the board for you, potentially.
E
Are you including. Do you think of Long island as. As part of this larger project here?
A
I don't.
D
That's the Virgin Tunnel draft. That's a different draft.
C
I think there are different draft. Tri City.
A
How dare you.
C
Tri State area draft.
A
How dare you, New York snob.
D
I left Goodfellows for you.
A
You did. Thank you so much. I will be taking Goodfellows. Thank you. Long island is not New York City. It's just not. It's. It's a different. It's a different part. And we're. We're kind of okay with that, but not really Goodfellas, though. Wow. There is plenty of Long island in Goodfellas. Actually. There really is.
E
In fact, you could say it's more of a Long island film than a New York.
A
Well, I would argue it's more of a. It is more of an outer boroughs film as well. In fact, most of what we see is in Brooklyn and Queens. And in fact, a lot of those scenes in bars and in diners where we constantly see Jimmy and Henry talking, that is actually in New York that I'm very familiar with. Like, that I visited as a kid that I felt exposed to. It was not the Empire State Building. It was not the Statue of Liberty. It was where regular people lived.
C
And everyone in Goodfellas is regular.
A
Right. I think that they're perfectly nice people. Yeah. And I think everything that they did was fine.
E
Lufthansa was just asking to get heisted.
B
We should clarify that Oscar winner is for a winner in any category.
A
Any category.
B
Because Goodfellas famously did not not win Best Picture.
A
It lost two Dances With Wolves, which we all agree was. But Joe Pesci did win for a supporting actor for amazing performance in that movie. And Oscar winner is a pretty robust category. But it feels like a nice place to put Goodfellas, so that's what I'm doing.
B
Very original. Good job.
A
Just win, baby. That's the goal.
C
Yeah. I'm going to be pretty regular. I think, to start off. Do the right thing in drama.
A
Please.
C
Come on. Which is with Dog Day Afternoon is the number one, like, New York City as a character movie. Right. And, like, is. It's interesting. It's like. It's. It's sort of about a city that's not here anymore, but it's also not like that. It's got that magic to it still. Yeah. The best. The best. It's one of the best movies ever made.
B
It's an easy pick.
C
It's in blue. Look, there's colors.
D
We each have our own color. Oh, yeah. I guess.
A
No, that's not how it works. So long.
B
Because they don't know. Yeah. It's just, you know, it's just fun.
D
Okay.
A
Got different colors.
D
Yeah.
C
Do the right thing. Sad story of an innocent pizza guy who has his day ruined. I'm joking. I'm joking. I'm so sorry.
E
Business owners just making some pies.
D
That's a description in the Christmas Adventurers Movie Guide. Know the crowd. I know the crowd.
C
Trash shows up.
A
Yeah.
C
That's also a reference to the film. One battle after another. Guys. I do not think that. Yeah. Maybe the most iconic New York movie right in the conversation there.
A
Yeah, definitely up there.
C
And then Brooklyn movie.
E
Best Brooklyn movie.
C
Best Brooklyn movie. Yeah, sure.
A
I. I mean, Dog Day Afternoon is Brooklyn as well, is it? Yeah.
E
Never seen it.
D
Not your kind of thing. You wouldn't like it.
B
Yeah.
C
And then in Blockbuster, I want Men in Black.
A
Wow.
C
Which is the best New York blockbuster ever made and is the number one.
E
I bet she doesn't have this right now.
B
I bet she doesn't either.
C
She's gonna get it because I drafted it.
E
She does?
B
Oh, yes. Elizabeth. And in black, Elizabeth comes prepared.
A
The long list for this draft was 460. 67 movies. Y. And we have cards for every single one.
E
Except Die Hard with Avengers.
A
Except for one.
D
The first pick.
A
It's not.
C
We have cards for like the Crowd by King Vor or whatever.
A
Fly a separate plane in to get all the cards. But we did not see DH with a V coming.
C
This movie came out in 1997. I lived in England, but I was still like, pretty close. Shut the.
D
I didn't say anything. I didn't say anything.
C
It was a true. For my whole family. Like crying in the aisles experience of like New York City, you know? And like just the way everyone in that movie. It's about aliens and shit. But it's just about having a job in New York and dealing with life in the city every single day.
B
Yeah.
C
It's so beautiful. It's a perfect movie.
D
90 minutes long.
C
It's very short.
B
Have you seen Men in Black?
E
Yeah. Why?
B
I don't know. Sometimes you. Really? The mid-90s. Things that children could see is sometimes.
E
I was allowed to see anything I wanted. Yeah, right.
B
Okay.
A
Anything you wanted.
E
Anything I. Anything that was of interest to me, I was allowed to see. There was no rules about that kind of thing.
C
Was that one of your three?
D
No.
A
But you wanted it.
D
Yeah.
C
Okay.
B
Yeah.
E
I told you, like, the first sex scene I ever saw was an Excalibur.
C
Remember?
B
Oh, yeah. We know.
A
Yes, Chris, My father is.
E
Please, Mr. Fantasy. It's about King Arthur and Helen Mary. Later. It's very erotic. Dude. It's only.
A
I have a pick.
B
Yeah, it's your pick.
A
I'm taking in Blockbuster Ghostbusters.
C
In part.
A
Because I know who is picking next. And I know how Griffin's mind works.
E
Can I ask you a question? Just right off the top here.
A
Just slow down. You're just getting a little aggressive. Do you think I've just selected and haven't spoken yet about my Ghostbusters?
E
Go ahead.
A
Talk about Ghostbusters. What's your question?
E
Do you think Ghostbusters True. Is actually more New York?
A
These are the Carpathian.
E
Yeah.
A
He wasn't born in New York.
E
No, I know. But he's, like, kind of feeding off of the psychic energy of the city.
A
Well, you could make that case because the great monster at the end is the Statue of Liberty at the end of Ghostbusters 2. But I would argue Stay Puft, Marshmallow Man. Really one of the first, you know, true.
E
New Yorkers. New Yorkers, yeah.
A
He's kind of got the energy of a New Yorker, you know, he's like, get out of my way.
B
Yeah, it's true.
A
I want what I want. I'm walking here, right?
B
Oh, wow.
C
Ghostbusters.
B
There's not a card.
A
Elizabeth.
C
Everyone's trying their best.
D
My take is that Ghostbusters. I'm jumping in here because you stole my pick. Is that Ghostbusters is one is more a New York film than. And Ghostbusters 2 is like a New York movie in quotes. I think Ghostbusters 1 is really smart comedically about understanding the tenor of this city and how it would react to things like the Stay Puft, Marshmallow Man. And the response to that was so great from the world that Ghostbusters 2 is like hot dog. Guys tripping over themselves, doing hand gestures. Statue of Liberty, all that.
B
Right.
D
They go too hard. So it's like. It's more of a New York film texturally or on a surface level, like the river.
B
You can't have it, though. So what's your pick?
E
Well, two story.
A
Are you a Ghostbusters 2 guy? Is that why you're asking?
E
I always thought Vigo was pretty interesting.
A
Yeah. Yeah. You kind of have like a Viggo thing.
E
Yeah, exactly.
A
How you have emit the same natural male energy.
D
Well, he's got good ideas, good politics.
A
You could be Chris the Philadelphian.
B
That's.
E
Call me that from now on.
A
Okay, Griffin, you're up.
D
Well, that was the move I was gonna make.
B
Two of three are gone.
D
Yes. Okay, I'm gonna. I think this is what I'm gonna do. I'm going to. In subway movie draft. Spider Man 2.
B
Okay.
A
Yeah, yeah.
B
That's the.
C
It's a fantasy subway.
D
It's a fantasy subway.
B
Which one is up to.
A
It's when he saves the train screen.
D
It transforms into the Chicago. L. Yeah.
C
It's an elevated subway in Manhattan.
B
Yes, I know that the upside down kiss is not on the train. I was just extrapolating.
A
Well, isn't the upside down kiss in the first spider Correct? Yes.
B
Oh, it is. Oh, okay.
D
And Spider 1. He also saves the. The. The fairy.
C
Right.
D
Doesn't.
A
This man is leaving because you've drafted Spider man too.
D
I apologize.
A
He's like, I've had enough of this. It's like, ghouls.
D
One of the great exceptions, extended subway set pieces. It takes liberties with the geography function of the MTA itself, but I think it overcomes that.
C
Fine.
A
It's fine.
D
In characterizing the experience of the subway so well.
C
I love how this crowd is incensed anytime a handwritten sign comes out incensed.
B
For the record, you made the list.
A
I'm almost certain that Ghostbusters is on the list, so I'm super confused. But you know what? That's good. We're just flowing. This is a live podcast. It's all happening live.
D
The moment where all the New Yorkers step in front of Spider Man's body to block him from Doc Ock. You want to get to Spidey, you got to go through me. And then also them carrying his passed out body after he's. He's just a kid and they put the mask on him. We'll keep your secret safe.
A
That's what you were doing with Cuomo this morning, right? You were like, if you want to get to him, you're going to have to get through me.
C
Andrew Cuomo does not take the subway.
D
Come on. When we did Raimi on Blank Check, I found this quote from him where he said to me, the big. The key to the Spider man movies is no one else in the films knows that Peter Parker's the main character that everyone treats him like he's a background actor in his own movie. And I think that's very New York. It is a thing I love about the kind of, like, beautiful pain of New York City is that everyone's constantly fucking knocking you down and cutting you down to size. And yet you have these moments of, like, collective power of a bunch of fucking, like, salami New Yorkers being like.
A
We love Spider Man. We gotta help him. He's okay.
D
You know, it swings both ways. Much like Spider Man.
C
Yes. And he means in the bedroom. Yeah, Right?
D
Flipping the menu.
C
Yeah, he's flipping the menu.
A
You must be devastated to have Spider.
B
Man sit off the board.
E
You've got a lot of your key texts taken from you here.
C
Yeah, these are some boy movies now that I'm looking at it. Francis Hoff fighting the crowd.
B
I mean, I do think that Sean is gonna mock me again for. Well, I don't know, actually, because I know he likes this movie too. And this, this is the one. I'm gonna look you right in the eye.
E
Okay.
B
I don't know if you, if you.
E
Want this, you gonna take.
B
Yeah, yeah, I think. I think I am really sorry, but in drama, I'm gonna take 25th hour.
E
Yeah, that's fucked up.
B
Yeah.
C
Both dramas are spikes.
B
I do sort of feel if you are drafting in this, that you have to have a Spike Lee movie. This is Spike Lee's movie adapted by David Benioff from his novel about Monty, a drug dealer. It's his last day before going to jail. It is also famously spike Lee's 911 movie. It is a movie that is a love letter to New York. It has the greatest ending of all time, which I watched before I came here today.
A
And you do that every day?
B
Yeah, I was like. Well, I was like, now I'm wrecked. Now I just have to like, sit here for 20 minutes.
A
Chris does the speech in the mirror every day. Yeah, yeah.
B
An absolutely, like, a beautiful, angry, heartbroken, like, amazing tribute to New York. So not like, I mean, it's not as fun as Ghostbusters or Men in Black, but a masterpiece.
A
So not eligible on Blockbuster.
B
Yeah.
C
Great movie.
B
I'm gonna have fun later.
E
That's a great pick.
B
Thank you. Also one of Chris Ryan's favorite.
E
I love that movie more than. More than Die Hard With a Vengeance. That's my fault. Okay, so for subway movie, I'm gonna go with the French Connection.
C
Nice.
B
There we go.
A
Good pick.
E
One of the most harrowing displays of chasing a Marseille heroin dealer into a subway station and just missing him and just be like, God damn it.
A
Well, he outsmarts him.
E
I know, right? Well, that's. I mean, the movie would have ended right there if he had napped when I got in the car chase. Best known for this incredible car chase directed by William Friedkin. This is a multi time Oscar winner, so somewhat strategically, I take that off of the board. But one of the great cop movies, one of the great New York movies, and changed the way car chases were shot on film, reflected even in one battle after another. Just recently released. So that leaves me with another pick.
A
Life of a Showgirl is not eligible.
E
How many times have you gone to the theater?
B
Best album since Lover. Just throwing that out there. Free yourselves from the Jack Andonoff Prison.
A
I asked you this yesterday because you were the first person I ever heard say that they like this new album. I was shocked, it's true.
B
But I was like 12 hours late to it because I was sleeping. So everyone had gotten mad. And then I listened and I was like, I'm bopping.
D
You know, I can't believe the world we live in now is being 12 hours late to an album because you dared sleep.
E
In. Action horror thriller. I'm going to take Rear Window.
C
Nice.
B
Oh, good. This was all right.
E
Which I'm not even sure did. They shoot this on, like, a soundstage somewhere. But it's very, very reflective of the, like, weird, like, oh, that guy's watching that again.
A
All right.
E
You know, like, were you, like a.
A
Were you looking out the window, like. Yeah. Were you like.
E
No, I mean, like. But you just. When you move here and if you're like. I was living in Brooklyn and, like, all of a sudden I, like, opened the shade and there was just, like, a guy right there. And I was like. I guess were Batman or it was Jimmy Stewart.
C
When you move here, you go get your telephoto lens.
A
Yeah.
C
Set it up.
E
Grace Kelly's making me breakfast.
B
It's.
E
It's great stuff. One of the great, great Hitchcock movies. One of the greatest movies ever made.
C
Yeah, the best.
B
And also isolates a very New York condition.
A
Yes.
B
Yeah.
C
The best theater experience you can get from a movie, I think.
A
Rear Window.
C
You think? Yeah, yeah. Like a movie that is wonderful at home, but, like, is 100 billion times better in it. In a movie theater. Yeah.
A
Great take.
C
Yeah.
A
What's the outdoor movie theater in Brooklyn overlooking the bridge skyline? Does that still exist?
C
I went there a lot in Covid. I haven't been there since.
A
Yeah, I saw Rear Window there with.
D
My wife and saw Armageddon there. One of the great New York movies.
C
We saw Armageddon there. One of the great New York movies. Eddie Griffin, the Little Chihuahua. Remember all that? It's Eddie Griffin, right?
B
Yeah.
C
Yeah.
A
You got another pick.
E
I just.
B
That was it.
C
He did, too.
B
What did you just take? Rear Window and Connection. Oh, yeah. Pretty good. Okay, it's me again. And if I had your name and address, I would send you a bouquet of freshly sharpened pencils.
E
Okay.
C
Okay. I was like, what are we doing here?
B
You're waiting. But, yes, in Blockbuster, my first Nora Ephron pick. We'll see whether there's another. Is in fact. You've got mail. Yeah.
C
Whoa. Yeah.
B
I do know that this is controversial. I think that When Harry Met Sally is the best and the most influential. You've Got Mail is my personal favorite. It came out when I was in high school, and I watched it 1,000 times, and I can quote every bit of it. And it is also very of the Upper west side and makes reference to the Upper west side. And some ways, that was my introduction to that part of New York, you know, and a sort of indefensible movie from a moral perspective.
C
Like most of her movies, which I love.
B
Yeah, it's true. No, most of them. But that one's, like, especially bad of, like, you know, he was just catfishing her the whole time. But he's Tom Hanks, so it's very early email, though.
E
Like, who knew? You know what I mean? We're just trying it out. We're just trying to figure it out.
B
Like, you know. You know in that scene when they're like, instant messaging, which is. Are you guys old enough to know what that is anyway. And she, like, hides from the computer because she's like, I don't. Can he see me? You know, I still do that. It's really ingrained into my life. And I was gonna ask whether they could, like, music cue the Cranberries for when I picked this, but I don't know. Then it got too complicated.
A
Anyway, imagine almost $180,000.
B
And then I would have had to have a pumpkin, you know, a whole thing. So you've got mail.
A
Interesting. Not on my board.
C
It's about the Barnes and Noble and 83rd and Broadway. I grew up in 89th in Amsterdam, which displaced west side Books, which, you know, it's about that. And now I look at that Barnes Noble, I'm like, this is an institution of the Upper West. It's a beautiful Barnes and Noble. It's crazy. It's true.
E
I like how you did Spider Man 2.
A
Voice about that.
E
They sell books in here. Get out of here.
C
Paper.
D
It's like. It's, to me, like, one of the better movies about, like, the battle for the soul of New York, which is.
B
A direct quote from Kathleen Kelly.
D
Yes.
B
Yeah.
D
And I respect that pick. And because of that, I'm going to draft When Harry Met Sally in Blockbuster.
A
Yep.
B
Okay.
C
Yep.
D
He boxed me in.
B
I knew what I was saying.
D
I had to do it.
A
I had to do it.
B
I respect it.
D
Needed a Nora on my board. Um, not a Nora. Nora yet a Nora Efron picture. One of the most, like, beautifully shot New York movies, in my opinion. Uh, Barry Sonnenfeld. Just, like, going to the map, blacking.
C
Out, just being insane.
B
Yeah.
D
I'm like, one of the great.
C
Just, like, creating Autumn.
A
This is why you come here. So good is to hear about Barry Sonnenfeld blacking out during the making of When Harry met Sales. This is movie podcast textures.
D
Leaves had only ever been green until When Harry Met Sal.
C
He was like, they could be brown.
A
Yeah.
D
He was like, let's toast these motherfuckers. No, it's like going to the great walking and talking movies. I mean, I feel like it's less textually, explicitly New Yorky than you've Got Mail, which is, like, about the city, but it is so much a movie about.
B
It's on location there at the. Like, the Temple of Dender in the Metropolitan Museum of Art. There's in Cats. Where do they have lunch? Like, Cats.
D
Yeah.
B
Is that the boat basin when Carrie Fisher is going through the Rolodex, you know. Yeah. They're. They're everywhere.
D
How well shot.
B
Sharper Image.
D
You know, it is a movie that is just like, full of New York locations in a way that no one would have access to today.
A
A pillar of New York iconography. Sharper Image.
D
Glomba. Never forgotten.
B
Six Fringe on top in front of Ira. Anyway.
C
Fucking Ira.
A
I have a pick, right?
B
Yeah.
E
Do you feel like you've got too many choices? You seem vexed.
A
Well.
B
Oh, great.
A
There's a world where I just draft five boy movies, right?
E
Yeah.
A
And it's just like, don't do that. What a sad, desolate loser.
E
Yeah.
A
You know, thinking about the underground man and what he contributed to society. I'm referring to Travis Bickle. So in drama, I will be taking Taxi Driver.
C
It had to be Done.
A
Which I think is also an incredible New York movie in terms of the conversation of what New York looks, sounds and feels like. Not just being in the back of cabs, but being in those porn theaters wandering into the. Which you know, I learned about from Chris.
E
And only when they show Excalibur.
A
Yeah, but just that. I love that, you know, the sequence, obviously, where he goes. Where Bickle goes into the campaign office, which is just right on the street corner and kind of prominently displayed. And that is the kind of essence of New York that I find is different from other cities, where everything is just kind of right in front of you all of the time and feels very accessible and approachable. And you're kind of constantly surrounded by people. It really struck me this week, just hanging out the last couple days, how isolated I am in Los Angeles. And so the idea of the major isolation of Travis.
C
But you also live in a castle, right?
A
I live in Downton Abbey, which I had flown to Los Angeles. Nevertheless, no, obviously, New York is, or LA is, a lonely city.
D
New York is not a lonely city. People are around, all constantly surrounded.
A
But Travis Bickle is alone. He is one of the most alone people in the history of movies. And this movie is very good at showing that it's not a very fun pick. Not a lot of people here are like, God damn it, yes, Bickle, you did it, man. But it's an amazing film. And now that guy has no ripple.
E
Effects in current society.
D
Awesome.
A
So you're blaming Scorsese in the state of affairs? Never.
E
He just had. He had his finger on the pulse, and that pulse still goes beep, beep, beep.
C
Okay, David, I'm going to take the Royal Tenenbaums in comedy.
E
Nice job.
B
In comedy.
C
Yes. I'm taking it in comedy.
B
Okay.
C
I mean, where I want it. Okay, I'm. That sounded weird. Where I want it. It's another. I'm picking another sort of, like, wonderful, shabby New York movie. Like a specific neighborhood, a specific vibe, a specific sort of era. It's sort of set a little timelessly, like a little.
A
What era is it, Would you say?
C
It feels like kind of like early 80s, right? Like, sort of Wes Anderson's childhood, even.
A
Though he didn't grow up in, like, 1990 79.
C
Hamilton Heights. Yeah, exactly. And it's, like, very romantic about the city in a way, even though it's not really about the city, but, like, the scene of where they go down to the go kart place and all that, like, it's just, like, showing you parts of the city you don't get to see much.
D
And I think it's also. It's like his. A child who has not yet visited New York's imagination of what New York is.
C
Like, the music is so evocative of the city, and, like, it's also just about, like, the kinds of freaks that end up succeeding here in a way. Right?
A
Eli Cash.
C
Yeah. Yeah. Well, he's got some good ideas. Has he made a New York movie in a while? Not really. He did such a good job, Wes.
B
Yeah.
D
There's not one since Tannenbaum, I believe.
C
Yeah, enough your ass. Anderson.
D
He's an expat now.
A
Yeah, he moved here.
C
He's a Parisian boy now. But great movie. Another. I'm picking a lot of movies that were big for me when I was, like, 14 years old. But that seems appropriate because we're living in.
A
Northern England. What you say Northern England.
C
I mean, I went to college in north of England.
E
He lived in North London.
C
I lived in North London. Camden, Kenishtown, if anyone cares.
B
All right, you have another pick.
C
Oh, yes, right. I have another pick. In Subway. I want the taking of Pelham One Two Three. This is my favorite New York movie.
E
Original or remake. Original or remake?
C
Original. I love the remake. I have a lot of fondness for the remake. The remake has an incredibly involved scene where Denzel explains subway switching. That is technically accurate and I really appreciate it. Whereas this has a scene where. Where the IRT Pelham Line goes to Coney island, which is not possible. The train would not fit on those tracks. It's vital for action and all that.
A
I get it. Yet still, you're taking it.
C
I love this. This is my favorite movie of all time.
D
I think I was confident you were going to take this first. Did you just think the rest of us wouldn't fight you?
C
I took a calculated bet that you guys would pick weird shit like Francis.
A
Ha. Yeah.
C
Look, it's a celebrated movie and I think it's got, like, such a fan base now. But, like, I do feel like it was sort of more of like a forgotten ish. Like it's a Joseph Sargent movie. Like, it's not like a great auteur. And it sort of for a while was this trivia fact of, like, that's where Tarantino got the Mr. Blue, Mr. Green from Reservoir Dogs, because they've all, you know, all the bank rob, the subway heist. Guys do that. And taking a Pelham One Two, Three. Do you guys like this movie?
A
I love talking a lot. Yes. No. I think it's an amazing pick.
C
It's a great New York movie because it's about a thing that happens and then everyone in New York's whose job it is to deal with it. A hostage situation on a subway platform is like, ah, Jesus Christ. Like the mayor, Walter Matthau, the cop, Jerry Stiller, the, you know, train, the sub, mta. I was just like, what? What now?
B
This shit.
C
I could barely be alive here and now I gotta deal with this.
A
The criminals also have that energy. Robert Shaw, Martin. Yes, yes. They're all like, I guess we'll rob this train.
C
Can we have like 10 grand in the mirrors? Like, we don't have any money. It's 1974. It's the best movie ever made. If you've never seen it, it's the. I mean, it's not. It's not the best movie, but it's my favorite movie. I watch it all the time.
B
It's a great pick.
E
Go rogue.
B
Do something fun. Yeah.
E
Express yourself.
B
Yeah, let's go rogue.
E
Yeah.
C
Do have two Marty movies and Ghostbusters. It's a little obvious.
A
I'm freaking crushing it right now.
C
Yeah, you are.
A
In action. Horror, thriller. I'll be taking Uncut Gems.
B
All right, that's good.
A
That's me.
B
I mean, you know, it's not really diverging from the path very much, but it's good.
A
I can only be myself. And I'll tell you a couple things. One, I saw Uncut Gems for the first time at the Telluride Film Festival, which was a huge mistake for the Telluride Film Festival because they put that movie on for me and seven. Seven two year old men and women. And when the movie started, I was like, this is probably the best movie I've ever seen. And 640 people walked out halfway through. They were like, I cannot believe you dare show us this. Because this is really a genuine artifact of modern New York and of a modern kind of anxiety and a modern crime thriller. And a lot of the movies that we're drafting tonight obviously were huge inspirations for Uncut gems. And what the Safdie brothers were doing with that movie, which is about a jeweler who's deep in debt and is looking for a way out and spoiler alert, finds a way out, in a manner of speaking. But this is one of the more thrilling movies in recent memory and a very, very, very clear example of great on location New York filmmaking. Especially the scene outside of the auction hall when it's thrown in the.
D
When he.
A
Yes, when he's thrown out and he's. He's encountering all of these men in the street who all want something from him. And the Safdies are still so good at casting real people in their movies. And all of those people are from New York City. And if you've seen the movie, you know exactly what I'm talking about. So was that fun enough for you?
B
It was good. Yeah. Good job.
A
Thanks. I live to serve.
D
When I was doing draft strategizing, I realized you could make the case for uncut gems in drama, comedy or thriller and also could have drafted it in blockbuster.
A
That's right. So actually, let's talk about that because Chris asked me, are the classic kind of crime dramas, are they only eligible in drama? And I think that maybe the hallowed ones are dramas, but the more recent.
E
Ones, I was saying to Amanda backstage that if it had, if it's like French Connection, I think would have been available in thriller or drama. But it's a thriller action because it's got incredible set pieces. I can think of several other New York City crime dramas that have no set piece.
C
Like Serpico probably doesn't.
D
Yeah, but I think it's what you just identified it's whether or not it's tapping into New York anxiety. If the anxiety is there, it becomes a thriller.
C
He's Taxi Driver.
A
Like horror?
C
Not really.
A
I don't think so.
C
Yeah.
A
It's a drama, like a character study.
C
Right.
A
Griffin grew up.
C
You have to manifest.
B
What do you have left?
C
Nobody heard that.
D
What do I have left? Many, many things. Too many things. But I think I heard where the.
A
Vengeance is off the board.
E
I know, but you guys are sweating it now, right? You're like, damn it. Which is on my list.
C
Now you've got two bottles. You're filling them up. You're trying to.
A
I genuinely thought about making that a trivia question was I would bring the jugs out from DH with a V and see if anyone on stage could solve it. But that just seemed like kind of risky with all the electronics around.
D
I'm a little surprised I'm in a position to draft this that you have not already taken off the board. Cr. Unless I've missed.
B
I was really stressed, and then you said that CR hasn't drafted it, and now I'm relieved.
D
In action, horror, thriller. I'm gonna take the warriors, which is like one of the best funhouse mirror depictions of New York City ever. But also, if you watch Fox News, a sobering, realistic take of what is happening outside our window every day.
C
Yeah, it's a great subway movie, too, but you have a subway.
D
I thought about putting it in subway, but. Yeah, I mean, it is often cited. Die Hard with a Vengeance is another one that I think gets the brownie points for this of being like a movie without geographic cheats. It actually uses the grid and the layout of the city and the boroughs and the public transit and the walking paths.
A
Makes a point to force the characters to wait on the train the way you have to wait on the train on a long ride to Coney Island.
D
Yes. And Coney island, you know, I've never.
A
I have to go back to.
C
Oh, yeah, that's right.
D
Yeah. I've never had a night of quite that level of intensity, but it does somehow get at the feeling of being like, oh, my God, now I have to get home, you know?
A
Did you consider full baseball Fury's attire tonight?
D
Yeah, I brought a baseball jersey backstage that I chose not to wear wearing.
C
My Edwin Diaz jersey. And I thought he didn't look good enough in it.
D
And I was gonna wear my minor league Brooklyn Cyclones Toy Story jersey.
C
Yeah, right.
D
That I bought from their recent Toy Story night. That's how you get me to go to a Sporting event. But yeah, no, I'm picking the Warriors.
A
Okay, good pick.
B
All right.
A
And takes it off the board for Subway as well.
B
Yes. Okay. I already have a Subway. And in. I could draft this in outer boroughs if this were a thing that we're doing. But instead I will do it in comedy. Another music cue that I couldn't get cleared. It's Working Girl, obviously, which is one of my favorite movies. And you know, the. It starts after circling the Statue of Liberty with a young woman going to Manhattan trying to make things happen. And there were a lot of movies in the late 80s of just yuppie women trying to make it happen. This is my favorite, also directed by Mike Nichols, sort of the consummate New Yorker.
A
What are you relate to about this movie?
B
Yeah, being in love with Harrison Ford. I do feel that this is the hottest that Harrison Ford has ever been on screen. And that does include Witness. But we can litigate that another time.
A
Where would you litigate it?
B
With some people on the stage at a time.
E
Cr.
B
Yeah, he did recently get a Blu Ray of it, right? You got one on it?
E
I did, yes. It was gifted to me from Tracy.
B
Letts at like minute 300 of the physical media draft.
E
Most beautiful 300 minutes of my life.
D
You rolled out a second suitcase and out came Witness.
B
Anyway, Working Girl and Alzheimer.
A
Great pick. Okay, Chris.
E
Okay.
A
Good day to Die Hard.
E
Comedy.
B
But this is because there was a typo that changes. That is disrespectful to. So, yeah, so it was prepared, but that's better.
A
Thank you, Elizabeth.
E
So when we were backstage, our producer, Jack Sander was telling a story about how last night at 12:30, someone reached out to him and had like a magical offer of socializing for him. And he was like, just sit by the phone. I'm going to come get you or you're going to come meet me. It's 12:32am here's back from this person. Sorry, it's not going to happen. And that thing is like the central conceit of After Hours. And so I'm gonna put this in comedy. But the magic slash nightmare of wait, where am I? How did I get down here? I don't have any money. Doesn't seem to matter. Yes, it does. Shit like that kind of rolling, snowballing into hell or heaven or into a plaster encasement. Who knows? Is really like After Hours captures that about the city. So while it starts with a phone call, you end, you know, being wrapped in plaster.
C
Plaster Paris.
A
Technically, I. I was thinking about this for Subway. Because this features one of the greatest subway scenes of all time.
C
He doesn't get on.
D
It's why I asked. Griffin's done.
A
He goes to the window and he tries to get a subway token. And he doesn't realize that at midnight, the fare has changed and gone up. And he's got. He's 25 cents short on the fare. And he says to the guy in the window, can you just give it to me? Like, no one's gonna know. Just give it to me. And the guy behind the window, who's the greatest New York actor of all time, says, I don't know. I could go to a party, get drunk, tell someone it's the best movie ever made. And then Dunn goes to jump the turnstile, and he jumps right into a cop. And if you haven't seen After Hours, you should see it.
D
The great New York Griffin movie. I will say definitive Griffin done.
C
Yeah, right. It's SoHo Canon. I've been trying to put together a.
A
List quietly of the soho canon.
D
Yes.
B
Oh, wow.
C
It is the number one soho movie. Like, just cobblestones, weird warehouses, you know, the empty vibe of that neighborhood.
E
Does Wall street count or no?
A
Where does caught stealing land in that?
C
Caught stealing lands in the garbage where he belongs. That movie is bad.
E
Okay, okay. So After Hours in comedy and in Oscar winner, I Will Take all that Jazz.
B
There we go.
E
Largely set in theaters and in Roy Scheider's mind. Roy Scheider or Bob Fosse's mind, but still captures the desperation of trying to make it in New York and also the anxiety and depression of what happens when you've made it in New York and are trying to keep your hands on it. Roy Scheider plays Joe, who's basically Bob Fosse trying to mount this say everything, leave it all on the field production of a film.
A
Do you remember the name of the show that he's producing?
E
I actually don't.
A
It's New York, Louisiana.
E
Oh, poignant. And Roy Scheider. This is one of my favorite performances. It's definitely my favorite Roy Scheider performance, but it's one of my favorite acting performances. So all that Jazz for Oscar winner won best editing and a bunch of other stuff.
A
Polite applause.
C
It's the best fucking movie.
B
Okay, so I have two categories left. I have action, horror, thriller and Oscar winner, I believe. Yes. Okay. I'm going to go with my heart. And this one is also for my friend Katie, who's in the audience and who texted me 15 minutes before the show, like, I Didn't remember that. The Thomas Crown Affair in 1999 is a thriller set in an action thriller set in New York City. Yeah. They robbed the Met twice. I have just like a very perverse, obsessed relationship with. Thank you. I have been on Blank check to talk about the Thomas Crown affair.
C
That's right.
B
1999.
A
What a day for McTiernan. When you think New York, you think John McTiernan.
C
It's true.
A
Was Predator available too tonight?
B
Predator told the painting. And then he put it right back, you know. And also then they danced really sexy at Cipriani's. So it's all. And had sex on a marble staircase. That is very realistic in terms of New York City homes. My father is here, so my in laws are here. Hi, Rich and Jane. I love this movie very deeply. It is silly and very funny. And the best bond that Pierce Brosnan ever did. And there we go. Yeah. 1999. That's right. Yeah. Wait, wait. It's OK. You guys know that it's the remake.
A
Griffin, you're up again. What do you got? What are you thinking?
D
How you feeling Hanging out? Look, there's something I need to interrupt.
A
You for a second. Griffin really wants to win very badly. The last time we did this, he won. Did you win both times? Who was.
D
We don't know if that was ever much like our own elections. It's unclear.
C
You mean 2020?
D
Whether anyone was fairly.
A
Don't worry. I know. Don't worry.
D
I won the lawyer one. Which I went turbo mode grinding on.
A
Watch roughly 100 lawyer movies in four days before the draft.
B
Oh, that was really psychotic.
D
I had zero fun during that draft, but felt great once I won. But it felt like running a marathon.
A
How are you feeling right now?
D
I'm feeling okay. I feel like I'm in a pretty good position. And the question is, do I go sicko mode and draft from my heart. Or do I play to the crowd? And there's a movie that's still available. And the three of you, I feel confident would never ever take it. But this fucking guy might. And there is a part of me that doesn't. I don't want to run the risk of letting him steal it from me. Even though I don't know if he could work it in his categories. But I'm gonna fucking do it in drama. I'm gonna draft Clint Eastwood's masterpiece. Sully.
E
Yeah.
B
Wow.
C
I thought about it. One of the great New York movies.
A
Yeah.
C
Did it win an Oscar for like, sound editing or something? No. So I'm not sure I could fit it in.
D
No, I don't think so.
A
You're getting all your blank check in our big picture, right?
D
A little bit.
C
Sorry.
D
It's a little Reese' Peanut butter Cup. A blockbuster was. Was a big ass hit. Made 120 million domestic and negative $15 worldwide. But I'm. I'm drafting it in. Drama. Disrespectful. Disrespectful.
E
The. The movies that have been handwritten would win the draft if they were put together.
D
Yeah, you could, like, make a subway map of only the handwritten movies and it would fulfill the spirit of the city. There's a lot in Sully that I think captures New York. It's obviously a hugely important New York moment in our history.
C
It's about a guy refusing to go to New Jersey.
D
Well, this is the other thing.
C
Land at Teterboro. Thank you. You can go to Teterboro.
D
He's like, he eyeballed it. He's not making it. He eyeballed it. He didn't crash. It was a forced. It's a forced water landing. We all have to admit that you.
A
Have no issue with the completely imagined FAA hearing that comprises the final 25 minutes of the movie.
D
That is such an insane misread of the movie. The whole point is that Sully is a man who just does his job. He just does the work. Every day he takes off and he lands fucking planes. That's all he cares about. He's not a hero.
B
He's.
D
He doesn't want attention. The people in the board are just doing their jobs just like him. It's due diligence. They're not actually accusing him of anything. They have to ask the questions. And by the end of the movie, they reveal that, yes, in the final hearing, after he is found to be in the right, Anna Gunn says, by the way, I want to tell you, listen to that tape. That was extraordinary. And they all have tears in their eyes and some because they aren't. It's because they couldn't show that up until that point. That was unprofessional. They're like him. And it's the fucking. You could almost draft this in thriller.
C
This is so true.
A
It's. It's going to be okay.
E
You did get the movie, by the way.
C
Do you imagine Eastwood, he's just like, lying still and they're like, you know, he landed the plane. He's like, I know. And they're like. And I guess there was some hearing and he's like hearing chugga chugga.
A
Chugga, chugga, chugga.
C
Cherry.
A
There was administration and regulation.
C
I'll be there tomorrow.
D
I mean, one of the big things about Sully is that he can't fucking go back home. He can't get on that Metro north and go back to his wife. He's stuck in a hotel in New York. The movie spans the five days of him Triphen stuck in our city.
A
We have more picks to make, but.
D
The highlight of the film is the rescue sequence itself, where you cut the turtle, all the boats, you cut to the dispatcher, and you watch how quickly our city comes together and gets shit done. Done.
C
So true.
D
Su su, Su su.
C
Usa.
D
Great decision. Great decision.
C
That was a great decision.
A
How many people over here have really seen Sully Han? Be honest.
D
Nine guys, you know, letterbox logs tonight.
B
How do I follow that?
A
What am I supposed to do with it?
E
Just take another Scorsese movie and keep it moving.
C
Mean Streets.
A
Honestly, I will. I'll take Wolf of Wall street in comedy because I don't know. I don't know.
C
You know, that's fine. That's your kind of New Yorker. You know, it's.
A
I don't know how to even follow what you just did there. Should I just explain every scene of the Wolf of Wall street from start to finish?
D
Yeah.
C
So McConaughey's talking about jerking off, right?
D
Explain the scenes, but make it clear that you approve of what's happening within them.
A
Yeah. This is obviously a tacit acknowledgement. The only way to go through life is to be greedy, use drugs, cheat on your wife and win America. Right? That's the point of the movie.
E
That's the point of the movie.
A
Yeah. We just did this on 25 for 25 and we talked about what an amazing masterpiece this is, especially made by a guy in his 70s. Jesus Christ. How did he do that? I can barely get out of bed at 10am in New York City. I'm like the time change.
B
Clint Eastwood made Saltly, you know, at the age of 95.
A
That's true. And he was awake every day on set. He woke up and he went to set. Wolf of Wall Street. Hilarious. So funny on purpose and by accident. And I think that's actually good when that happens, you know? You know? You know what I'm saying?
E
Yeah, of course.
A
Like DH with a V. It was really funny that you picked that on purpose.
B
This was eligible in Subway, too. A pivotal scene.
A
It is.
B
Oh, that's right.
A
Well, it's a wordless scene, but it's.
B
Pivotal to our understanding.
A
Explain It.
B
So Kyle Chandler, the FBI agent who investigates. And spoiler alert for the Wolf of Wall street, which was released over 10 years ago, eventually takes down Jordan Belfort, the protagonist. They have a conversation on a boat about living the high life versus going about doing your job and then taking the subway home. And at the very end, after he has. Has arrested Jordan Belfort, he is shown just sitting on the subway by himself, looking around, being like, well, I did it. But also, is this what I did? So that that qualifies.
C
Taking the subway?
B
Yeah, that qualifies as pivotal. Yes. Oh, my God.
C
All right.
B
Elizabeth.
E
That was good.
B
Elizabeth Fearnell.
A
For those of you listening at home, there was not a placard for the Wolf of Wall Street. There's more handwritten placards on the board now than there are printed out ones.
B
Yeah.
A
Okay.
B
It's a good pick.
A
Hey, you don't have to be rude about it.
B
I like the film. We did a whole podcast about it. Who's next? Oh, I am already. Okay.
A
Wait, no, no. David's up.
C
My final two. Yeah, it's. This is. This is the end for me. It'll be okay. Back to England in action, thriller, horror. I want American Psycho. A few options there. This just feels like the New Yorkiest. And I guess since it can't be taken, it was between that and John Wick, which I love, but I'm taking American Psycho as more of, like, you know, New York. Yes, please. So is John Wick sort of a fake New York? I mean, it took, but it is New York.
D
It is a ton of real locations.
A
It is New York.
C
Yeah.
A
And I don't feel like it has that reputation. And I wanted to talk with you guys about that because John Wick lives on Long island, right?
E
Yes.
A
Kills freaking dog.
C
Yes.
A
And then he's like, I'm John Wick. I have to wick you.
C
He does do that.
A
And then he goes to New York City.
C
Yes.
A
He goes to the Continental, which, of course, does not exist, but is shot in New York.
C
Yeah, it's just Wall street in downtown.
B
But they're like, this is New York and not, like, weird John Wick world.
C
It is New York. John Wick is set in all the cities it's set in always, but it's sort of a weird, fake New York City.
B
Where's the mountain town? The Mountain town in John Wick 4. It looked lovely.
C
Oh, that was Ballerina. Just.
B
Oh, Ballerina. Sorry. Thank you.
D
It was from the world of John Wick.
B
I think you mean John Wick's Ballerina.
A
Yeah, right.
B
Yeah.
D
And that John Wick, too, has the incredible subway.
C
But that's not shot on the subway. Sure. Sorry. Yeah, but it wasn't. It was shot in, like, either Toronto or on the Path or something.
D
The Oculus. But then the actual train itself is fake. I think John Wick shoots real New York locations in such a stylized way that even for me, a native New Yorker, I watch them, I go like, oh, that is that building. Because it feels like it's Schumacher Gotham or something.
A
Right, Right.
C
Yeah, right. But I picked American Psycho, which is pretty unimpeachable. And it's a great pick by me. And we're not talking about it, but it's a great New York frame of mind movie.
A
What is it that you relate to?
C
I realize I'm going.
D
It's the Grindset mindset of it.
A
Right.
C
I've gone full vintage here. Right. Like, you know, 90s 70s, with Tom. One, two, three. And this is, like, the great 80s New York movie. Right? Or if, you know, there's the Raging Bull or the working class 80s New York. This.
A
Forget about Raging Bull. We're talking about American Psycho.
C
Sorry. And it's just. It's a great portrayal of what the city sort of turned into. Right. And through the eyes of a really normal guy who has a normal job and a normal way of doing business. Normal fridge with normal heads in it. It's a great movie. I just got my Blu Ray.
D
I just rewatched it in the Luca remake. Is fucking Patrick Bateman gonna have a podcast network? That's who you think that guy is now?
B
Right?
C
Right.
D
He's selling, like, fucking brain powder.
E
You're staring right at Sean. As you say, Sean.
C
American Psycho. You guys like that movie?
A
I do.
B
Yeah. Pretty good.
C
Great videotapes movie.
D
I. I've never heard you talk about that film. I think it's a movie I assumed you didn't like, because in 10 years, it's, like, never come up in conversation.
C
Okay, well, I know.
D
I'm just saying.
B
You got another pick.
C
Oscar winner is my final category.
A
I'm taking a lot on the board here.
C
I know. And it's like, do I go boring or do I go personal? I'm not sure, but I do think the answer is Godfather Part 2. Because I do think that's, like, the most beautiful. You were saying it during the trivia round. Like, just the shot of the boy sitting in Ellis Island. Like, it is, like, the most important part of the New York picture. And it's crazy. There's other Movies about that experience that are great. But like the Coppola for part two is like, this is what this is about.
E
Do you think that the polite applause is because everybody here knows this is a Lake Tahoe movie?
C
It does have a lot of great Tahoe, but it's also got fucking De Niro wasting olive oil, guys, on Mulberry Street. Okay. It's got a lot of great New York's at the rooftop scene, you know, after he. Yeah, that's, that's, that's.
A
It's beautiful. It's a great pick for your last pick. Thank you.
C
Now, I'm just going to rag on whatever you guys pick. I want to say also, no white cards for me.
B
Look at that.
A
Elizabeth, did you rig this for David? Okay, I have one more pick. I haven't picked Subway movie. I'm going to pick Dress to Kill. So very famous scene in Brian Palma's Dress to Kill where the killer approaches Nancy Allen and is trying to take care of her while she's riding the subway. That it's just absolutely harrowing. And I feel like people don't. Maybe don't think of this as much of a New York movie. But also a lot of my picks got taken already. So I'm going to take it here at this exact moment. It's a good pick.
C
Great pick.
B
Great job.
E
Can I shout this last night? It's great.
C
Can I shout a couple good Subway movies? I was trying to. I was trying to think. Or should we wait till the end?
A
Assuming you're not going to take one of those.
C
Subway's done. You filled it up.
B
No, I have Oscar winner, so.
A
I know, but he might say a Subway.
B
Yeah.
C
Okay, so I'll be quiet.
D
I'll be quiet.
A
Think of one off the top of my head.
C
Just an important category.
A
Yeah.
E
So you have Oscar left.
B
Yeah, but it's Griffin's pick.
E
Oh, it's Griffin's pick. Sorry.
D
I mean, there are a lot of great historic New York comedies. I could pick Little Nicky Ants. That's kind of chalk pics. As if I wanted to convince this audience of my erudite taste.
C
Right.
D
And CRU picked All that Jazz. I'm wearing all that Jazz T shirt. It is great movie about how hard it is to make it and especially make it and show business and the idea of the Great White Way and all that sort of stuff. With that off the board, there's only one pick I feel like I can make, which is the only movie that captures that subject in a bleaker and more psychologically Intense way. And that, of course, is the Muppets Take Manhattan.
B
Good one.
D
Oh, wow. A movie in which a bunch of small town, you know, big fish, little pond Muppets come to New York and get their fucking asses kicked up and down Main Street. They tap, out they go, they leave, they disperse. And then Kermit finds financing and the Muppets have to come back together and put on a show.
C
They never did that before on the Muppets. Like that.
D
It's the origin story.
C
Oh, okay, okay.
D
So they technically hadn't done it before. If you're looking at the timeline, it's a slippery canon.
E
It's kind of the andor of.
C
Oh, surprise, surprise. That one had to get written down.
D
Got Manhattan in the title. Big inspiration for me in my life. Has definitely affected my daily decision making process.
A
Who is your one to one Muppet comp?
C
Who do you think?
D
Well, now I want to know who you think.
C
Fozzie.
D
Fozzie is my one. But I do feel like there's an id. Ego, super ego of Fozzie. Gonzo Scooter.
A
Yeah.
D
But gun to my head, Fozzie's the pick. Yeah, Yeah.
C
I got stressed out when he said that.
A
You have a Muppet comp.
E
Sierra, are you familiar with the Mupper?
B
Animal.
D
Animal.
C
Animal.
A
Yeah.
D
You could also.
B
Correct.
D
Yeah. You could be Crazy Harry, I think as well.
A
Bomb thrower.
D
Yeah, you're. You're Sam. Eagle.
A
Yeah. There have to be rules.
D
Important function. Important function. The dynamic.
A
I'm also an icon of this country, a true patron.
E
I always like the Swedish Chef. Right?
C
Yeah.
A
Yeah, because you're always cooking.
B
Just naming Muppets. Okay, I have Oscar winner left.
C
We know who you are.
B
Oh, yeah.
C
Yeah, that.
B
Okay, so I have Oscar winner. And I. I'm. I'm torn between being cute and trying. Trying to win is not really. Like. I love all of the picks, but the eternal struggle. Yeah, cute or winning. I think that I'm going to do a middle ground. And in. I can't believe that this is the sixth round, I will be taking Michael Clayton, an Oscar winner.
C
Tilda. Tilda's the lone Oscar for that movie, right?
B
Tilda? Yes. Tilda's Finn.
A
One of the great Milwaukee movies.
E
One of the great movies about agricultural crime.
B
Some unfortunate things do happen in a parking lot, though, off screen. Yeah. This is a movie about someone as handsome as George Clooney just being beaten down by this city and by Brian.
A
Koppelman at the poker table and Brian.
B
Koppelman and, you know, and Sidney Pollack. Just telling you. Telling you what's what, you know. And. And also that, you know, the suburbs are a scary place full of rich people who yell at you. Yeah, it's. It's one of the great movies. It's also on our 25 for 25 list. It's on many a yard sign. Do they have that in New York? Do you guys have the. In this house, we believe that Michael Clayton is underrepresented. You know, whatever. That's the thing that we have in Los Angeles. Yeah. Look it up on the Internet.
E
Yeah, those are. Swing the tide here to get this country back on track.
B
Yeah. Michael Linton.
E
Well, I'm so excited I get to do this. With the last pick. It's Saturday night. I hope you guys all have an amazing night out in New York City. Meet me in the meatpacking district. We're going cruising.
C
Let me guess.
E
This is a great movie about losing yourself to your work, which I think is very, you know, a common experience in New York City.
A
Great. Tell us about your research. When you did the rewatchables for this film, what did you do?
E
I danced. I danced a lot. No, this was. This is William Friedkin's movie with Al Pacino about an undercover cop who goes into the gay underground dance club scene in the Meatpacking district in the 70s to find a serial killer. And he does. Spoiler. It's a great film. It's been recently ish in the last couple of years. Right. Redone on dvd. I highly recommend that. I adore this movie.
D
When you started your pick by saying it's Saturday night, I thought you were drafting Jason Reitman's.
C
Jason Reitman's New York masterpiece.
D
It's about getting lost in your work.
A
The movie was shot in Vancouver. Right.
E
Saturday night.
A
Yeah. Yeah.
E
I was actually going to say it would be fun to have clearly not shot in New York. New York movies.
C
Yeah.
E
Because Escape from New York is shot in St. Louis.
A
I mean, that's a good. That's an entree to our honorable mentions conversation, which could be quite long, but we'll try to keep it brief. But is Eyes Wide Shut a New York movie?
D
100%.
C
And I thought about picking it and I'm almost surprised it didn't go because.
A
It is an amazing New York movie that is also shot in London, but.
C
The snow globe haunted Bizarro New York is what's fun about it.
B
I don't know accounts, though. It's. I mean, you know, we were talking about this beforehand. A lot of. So far, our Rules have been that it must be specified as New York, which in this case it is for it to count. But there are many, like, screwball comedies from the 30s and 40s that are basically New York, but they never say New York. And so, you know, bringing Up Baby, it's like, obviously he works at the Natural History Museum, but it's. It's whatever. So I think Eyes Wide Shut. Yes. Bringing Up Baby and all the Batman movies.
E
No escape from New York, though.
A
I think it's from New York for.
C
Sure in the title.
D
Also, Ghostbusters shot, I think, three days in New York, the first one. It's one of those incredible movies where they just got the right shots and recreated everything else in a way where you buy it. Even though Ghostbusters 2 was actually filmed in the streets of New York more and feels a little more artificial.
A
Okay, honorable mentions.
E
What did I just do?
A
Like three or four, please.
E
Cloverfield.
A
Add it on my list.
D
Add it on my list.
E
I just, like, love as a New York movie. I'll also throw out.
A
It's a really good movie about going to parties at 26.
D
Yes.
C
Good subway. Good subway stuff, too.
A
Good subway.
D
It also cheats more than warriors, but those were the two I was debating for that slot because it's a similar how do you make your way across New York? Movie that it is a city you can conquer in one crazy night.
E
My subway backup pick was inside Llewyn Davis.
C
Yep.
B
Oh, good one.
C
Also a good subway scene.
E
And nobody picked Anora.
A
Yes. My niece, who is here, texted me during the show, which I received whilst looking at my phone. You have to take Enora to her. I would just like to say I'm sorry.
E
And just as a sentimental pick, even though you outlawed Long island, any of Hal Hartley's Long island trilogy would have been, I think, a good pick for comedy.
C
Wow.
D
Silence today.
C
Good call.
A
Nobody took west side Story.
B
I almost did. And then I did Michael Clayton at the end, but I was gonna snap and everything. 1961. Not the Spielberg, though. The Spielberg's good, too.
C
I thought about it for Oscar winner at the end there. I thought about Rosemary's Baby, iconic New York movie.
A
Yeah, absolutely.
C
I thought about I cannot believe the Devil Wears Prada was not picked.
B
I know, and thank you all for giving me that space. But I feel like I've done it in other drafts. You know, we had a trivia question. It was my backup for Blockbuster. But listen, like, here are other things I didn't draft. West side Story, Moonstruck.
C
That was. That was an obvious one.
B
Fatal Attraction, which I almost did in Thriller. And also unfaithful. Speaking of Adrian Lyon movies about going to the suburbs and then needing to come back to get it on. Let's see. Relate to that film, Cruel Intentions.
C
Sure.
B
I don't live in the suburbs yet.
A
Cruel Intentions. New York.
B
Yeah.
C
They live Upper east side. You know, primary school.
B
No one took Malcolm X. I mean, we have Spike Lee represented, but that's pretty intense. The Apartment, like the winningest best picture. We talked about Age of Innocence in trivia, but not in this draft, which is sort of disrespectful.
C
Great Chelsea movie.
B
And Inside Man.
C
Yeah.
B
Which was on the backup for Thriller, for sure.
A
What about Ghost?
B
I had it on my subway. Yeah.
D
I thought that's where you were going. In your subway pic when you say the inciting scene happened.
A
Get off my train. That guy's named Vincent Chiavelli.
C
Yeah, Vincent Chevell. That guy.
A
So New York, I. I feel like.
D
It maybe would have won me the draft, but my other option in comedy that was seriously considering was coming to America, which I'm surprised no one.
B
Yeah, yeah, that would have been a good one.
A
I kind of blinked with Wolf of Wall Street. I was going to go coming to America, and then I just got beaten down.
C
You got Marty blindness.
D
I thought Shaft and Oscar winner would be a particularly cool move to take it there because it is one of the coolest Oscar wins ever. Also, I rolled against it because it was too cute. I adore the wizard, which for me is one of the movies that best captures the feeling of New York, even though it technically takes place in oz.
C
It's a 10 percenter. I thought, yeah, I've pitched a category that was people who are walking here movie. And Shaft is a good one for that. Obviously. Midnight Cowboy is a good one for that. That's an Oscar winner right there. I had some other obvious ones. I feel like Black Swan.
D
Yeah.
C
People don't talk about it anymore, but that's a great New York movie you gotta bring. Black Swan's gonna kill me.
A
Yeah.
E
Let's do it like. Like a minute by minute pot of Swan.
A
Let's start it right now. Let's run it here.
D
Here's one I was really thinking over. Citizen Kane is a New York movie.
C
A lot of New York set in.
A
New York, but you don't see really.
E
But it's 60%.
D
You know, he woos a showgirl. He runs a New York paper. Like he makes his fortune here. Yeah.
C
Catch me if you can. A New York Movie. I mean, it's got a lot of New York, but not. Not all over. Home Alone 2, he is. And you guys may not know this. Lost in New York.
B
Yeah.
C
Even though it's easy to get around.
A
President's in that movie.
D
One of his top five films. One of his top five best film performances.
C
Breakfast at Tiffany's is a fairly iconic New York movie with great politics, but.
D
Great politics on that movie.
C
Yeah. This is on here that I feel.
A
What about the Devil's Advocate?
B
I can't believe he didn't do it.
A
Upon reflection.
B
Yeah.
A
I've made a mistake.
C
Well, like Devil's advocate. I love Devil's Advocate, but that's kind of bad.
A
Rosemary's Baby.
C
Right. Because that's also about like kind of going insane in your apartment building.
A
Like, I wouldn't use the word bad when I talked about the Devil's Advocate.
C
Because you're afraid that he's going to come after you. John Milton.
A
Yeah. Look, but don't touch. Touch, don't taste. Taste, but don't swallow.
C
Wait, one Efron thing. I know you wanted to say Sleepless in Seattle is barely set in New York and yet it is very much a New York movie. Right. Because it has iconic.
B
Because they are going to New York and the whole. There are two scenes both like. They are at dinner with the Empire, like with Bill Pullman, the Empire State Building behind it. And then. So I do think it's eligible. There was a.
E
Does she work in Baltimore in the movie Baltimore?
B
She does. And this was a point of discussion in the Chicago draft where everyone tried to tell me that she actually worked in Chicago in the newspaper. But no, it was Baltimore.
C
He's in Chicago at the start of the movie. He goes to Seattle, she's in Baltimore. He's in Chicago at the start of the movie. He has to leave.
A
He's got.
C
His wife died. He's got to buy a houseboat.
B
I. I did that.
C
I did the commentary on the 4K release of Pepe.
B
Okay. All right. Okay. You would know. Okay.
A
Confirmed.
B
So I feel it's. But I would say Seattle number one, New York number two, Baltimore, three, Chicago four. As far as that movie's allegiances go.
D
It'S a joint custody situation.
B
Yeah.
A
Yeah.
D
In terms of which city claims it. Yeah.
C
But just. Just to bring up North, I was.
B
Like, it happened one night as another one where they're trying to get to New York.
C
Right.
B
But they like. They do eventually, so that counts. Even though a lot of it's on.
A
The road, I wanted to shout out two amazing Abel Ferrara movies. One is King of New York, which is one of the best crime thrillers ever. And the other is Bad Lieutenant, which is about Harvey Keitel losing his mind because the Mets suck is so relatable.
C
That was you watching David Peterson the other weekend.
D
There was a wild card category that you, I think, wisely chose to cut this morning. But I was gonna get funky there and maybe either draft Life Lessons, the Scorsese segment from New York Stories that fucking rules.
A
Great movie.
D
Or the Cruise, the Bennett Miller documentary, which is one of the most New Yorky movies at the Grid Path. We have to fight it.
C
Carlito's Way. That's got some great train stuff.
A
Great, great, great subway station scene in Carlito's Way. I thought you would have gone for that.
E
I was thinking about it. We didn't talk about Last days of Disco. Juliette Lippman texted me while we were on stage.
B
Yeah, we didn't see another great subway Metropolitan.
E
I guess kids is in there. It's not natural feel good movie.
A
But why did you not take it?
E
I'm just. I couldn't figure out the right category for it.
A
You know, Wags just texted me Sweet Smell of Success.
E
Sweet Smell of Success is on my list.
A
Don't like, let's not make the live texting during a live pod thing. I realize we're revealing that people are texting us, but that sounds like it could.
E
Cause what if I just have, like, an earpiece and Wags is just like, now, say cruising. I know you haven't seen it, but pretend.
A
Keep the first five years of the big picture.
C
The Avengers. Not to be boring.
E
Oh, yeah, that's right.
A
As a guy who really likes the Avengers here, I'm gonna start crying.
C
They have the Battle of New York in that movie. I don't know if you remember.
B
Oh, yeah.
A
What happened?
C
What's up with the Chitauri?
B
Yeah, yeah.
C
What's up with the Chitauri?
D
I don't know much. We treated them very poorly.
C
Aronofsky, you know, I don't like hot stealing, but Requiem for a Dream is a great Coney island movie.
A
PI is also.
C
Is a great New York movie. Has great subway stuff.
E
Also about the Mets.
A
Yeah. Yep, yep.
D
Noah.
C
Noah. That was all shot in New York.
D
Early New York area.
C
Shot the whole thing in the East River. It's crazy.
B
The whole.
D
That's the original force. Water landing.
A
We've officially entered just naming movies territory.
B
Yeah.
A
Just how I know we are at.
C
The end, you know, season two. Arrest me I could go on season.
D
One of Rescue Me.
A
Everybody, meet David outside. He'll be just saying the names of films for roughly four hours. Can do this all night. Just like Captain America.
C
Hey, QR code.
D
QR code.
A
We're going to vote now.
B
Yeah. So, you guys, you get to vote. Yeah. Hola.
D
Up on the screen.
C
You'll see.
B
Okay.
A
Hey, I'm going to use a QR code. While you're voting, we're going to run through our picks. So, Chris, why don't you read your picks from this draft?
E
In drama, I took Cruising. In comedy, After Hours in action horror thriller, Alfred Hitchcock's Rear Window, Oscar winner was all that Jazz. Blockbuster was DH with a V, and Subway was the French Connection.
B
It's really funny that that was the first pick overall, given the thing.
E
I fucking nailed it.
B
Yeah, you did. In drama, I took 25th hour. In comedy. Working Girl. In action horror thriller, the Thomas Crown Affair, 1999. In Oscar winner Michael Clayton. In Blockbuster, you've Got Mail. And in Subway, Frances HA Griffin.
D
In drama, I paid my respects to an American hero named Captain Chesley Sullenberger. In comedy, I kind of snuck a psychological thriller in there called the Muppets Take Manhattan. Action horror thriller, the Warriors Dog Day Afternoon, An Oscar winner for screenplay, When Harry Met Sally. For blockbuster, and in Subway, I took Spider Man 2.
A
In drama, I took Taxi Driver. In comedy, I took the Wolf of Wall Street. In action horror, thriller, I took Uncut Gems. In Oscar winner, I took Goodfellas. Perhaps you've heard of it. In Blockbuster, I took Ghostbusters. And in Subway, I took Dress to.
C
Kill For Me, in drama, I took do the Right Thing. Comedy, I took Royal Tenenbaums. Action horror thrill, I took American Psycho, Oscar winner, Godfather Part two blockbuster, Men in Black. And my subway movie was the taking impellem. 1, 2, 3, 4.
B
You do.
E
I think David's gonna win.
A
David's gonna win.
C
Yeah. Sean, you got some heavy movies.
E
Dudes who weren't here will vote for Sean. Like, dudes who weren't here. Yeah.
A
All my underground men.
B
Yeah.
C
But, like, if the 155 souls that sully saved are here, Griffin's got a big shot.
A
Yeah, and thank God he saved them.
C
He did.
A
Where would we be? Where would this draft be without that moment?
B
Are we. When?
A
How long do we take? We got to wait roughly 80 minutes. Are you guys okay with that?
B
To tabulate the scores, Jack is saying 30 more seconds. And he's doing 30 more.
A
He's giving us hands.
B
Yeah, he's doing he's doing baseball. So can you hear Billy's doing. What's. What's going on? Oh, no. What happened?
C
It's the top of the ninth. It's five three Dodgers.
B
Okay.
A
Oh, my word.
B
It's bad.
E
Five three.
C
In the top of the ohani went 0 for 4. Ohtani, sir.
B
Okay.
A
All right.
D
I feel comfortable calling this race.
B
Okay. It's time.
D
It's time.
B
Yeah.
D
In fifth place, Christopher Ryan.
E
That's fucking crazy.
A
For the record, Die Hard with a vengeance.
D
Amazing pick. Okay, fourth place, Griffin Newman.
B
No.
D
Spoke too many truths here tonight, did you?
C
Did you kept it too real?
D
Yep. In third place, Sean Fennesee.
B
All right, David, you want to hold hands with me?
C
Absolutely.
B
Here we go. Here we go.
C
Here we go.
B
Just like Miss America.
C
Wow.
B
Okay.
C
Oh, look at all these guys.
D
In second place, Amanda Dobbins.
B
Wow.
E
Which means David has won the New York City movie draft.
C
High five. Come on.
A
Well done. All right, David Sims is your winner tonight. He's your winner, but go to your ballot box. Stuff it.
D
If you're in line, stay in line.
A
I have a great many people to thank, so first of all, thank you so much to Griffin and David. If you're not listening to Blank Check, please start doing so. One of the very best podcasts in the world. Thank you to Jack Sanders, whose voice you've heard all night, who's the producer of our show. Thank you so much to Elizabeth, Helen, and Charlie from our events team who Killed it. Thank you to LinkedIn ads for supporting this episode. Thank you to Criterion for putting 4Ks in your hands. Thank you to CR, who is my brother and drafted DH with a V first overall at the New York City movie draft. Thank you to New York City.
B
Yes. Thank you to all of you.
A
Which is the best city in the world.
B
Yeah. Thanks to all of you. Thanks for having us. Thanks for caring about this and listening. Thank you to my in laws for driving from Philadelphia. And thank you, Sean. I guess.
D
Yes, go ahead.
A
I guess. Amanda, good job. We're not making eye contact. I just want to point out later this week on the podcast, we'll be talking about the greatest actor of his generation. And we'll see you then, Sam.
Podcast: The Big Picture
Host: The Ringer
Episode: The New York City Movie Draft, With Griffin Newman and David Sims!
Date: October 7, 2025
This episode features a special live recording of The Big Picture at the 92nd Street Y, where hosts Sean Fennessey and Amanda Dobbins are joined by Chris Ryan, Griffin Newman, and David Sims (of the podcast Blank Check) for a high-spirited New York City Movie Draft. With all participants having lived in New York, they share personal connections to the city and heatedly debate which films best capture its unique spirit. The draft features categories ranging from drama and comedy to action/thriller, blockbusters, Oscar winners, and movies with iconic subway scenes.
Chris Ryan
Amanda Dobbins
Griffin Newman
Sean Fennessey
David Sims (Draft Winner)
David Sims is crowned the New York City Movie Draft winner. The event closes with gratitude to the audience, guests, and a celebration of New York as “the best city in the world” (103:27). The conversation is a love letter to NYC’s singular role in film history—a must-listen for movie and city lovers alike.