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Business Founder
We were developing food brands, drink brands. So one of them was an energy drink brand. And the brand in particular, or bullet actually became a market leader. You're always looking ahead and saying, how can I build something which prevents me falling back? If you lose any money on anything that's ours that we sell to you, we will always underwrite that loss.
Podcast Host
So your partners are guaranteed success, basically.
Business Founder
Absolutely. You're never going to lose money with us.
Podcast Host
So how 100 million like you guys got to 240, 250.
Business Founder
Whereabouts? Yeah.
Podcast Host
So in building a business like that, when you started in the business, 10, 11 million, what do you think is the distinction between tens of millions and hundreds of millions or what are some of the distinctions?
Business Founder
Well, there are a series of stages along the way. So to go from a 10 million, which is already a substantial business in its own right, for us it was formalizing certain processes and I think that's key all the way through the journey, that the processes that apply at the for a 10 million business is not the same as something for 250 million business necessarily. So for us, that was the first thing. How do you get all the systems and processes running appropriately for that and maybe the next stage up?
Podcast Host
Yeah. So you're building ahead of the game.
Business Founder
Almost always. Always. You're always looking ahead and saying, how can I build something which prevents me falling back? Yeah. So if I can get those necessary like safety stop measures in place, I know I won't drop again. But I keep on, keep on building on that.
Podcast Host
Never heard anyone put that straight. That way that it saves me from dropping back as well. That was your thinking along the whole way.
Business Founder
Yeah. Because you could see the mistakes that could happen if something went wrong. If you had a truck, I mean, we were in the food business and we were trucking product or shipping product. So what would happen where something could go wrong? A delivery comes in or doesn't come in because you haven't got a proper a measure for how it comes in, or do five turn up at once and you don't have the capacity to take them in? Sound like simple situations, but they always do unless you don't have them.
Podcast Host
Yeah, they're simple until they go wrong. People wise, what did you notice as you grew from the tens to the hundreds? What was the distinction for you in the human capital of the business?
Business Founder
It was a set of values that remained consistent throughout the journey. So we are a family business and it was that family ethos all the way through that you treat all your people as your own and you take them through both the good times and the bad. So good times, people are getting on better, getting rewarded better. But there would be a point where if things aren't so good, you explain to people they're not so good. But you don't fire people, you find new roles for them within the company and you explain why you're having to do it, whether it's temporary or permanent. But that communication all the time, so that people would always know you have their back and that they should be with you for the good times and the bad. And that security, I think, meant a lot, meant a lot to the people that always worked with us.
Podcast Host
Did everyone know you were aiming for hundreds of millions or is it just an ethos of the vision of doing great work, great things? What was the.
Business Founder
Yeah, I think when we were starting off or when we were starting to grow, you didn't necessarily have a number in mind. It was just like, I can know this can go a lot further and a lot further. And it just kept on growing from that point. But because we kept some of those values in the right place, those people who were on that journey with you could see that you're constantly growing and they could see what you're trying to do. So they believed in what you were doing and you just, it just kept on rolling forward. But also it meant when people joined in, you had a group of existing staff that would say to them, look, this is what we're trying to do and it's not the bloke at the top trying to feed it through, it's everyone saying the same thing. So then it becomes self reinforcing as a message.
Podcast Host
Talk about bringing people in. Obviously to grow the business, you've got to bring in some higher calibre people too. How did you manage bringing in people to bring them into the culture of the organization?
Business Founder
We generally hired from the bottom up. So it would be people growing through the ranks. Because it was an 11 million revenue business to start with, it was always going to be people at a more junior level coming in entry level and then learning the ropes as they went through and then becoming more senior. So for a very long time we didn't bring people in at senior level and when we needed some short term boost or something like that, we would bring in external expertise temporarily. But it was always about growing people through.
Podcast Host
Let's talk about branding then, because I think building the right products, the right brands, all of that sort of stuff was a big part of what got you to where you went to. How did that come about, did you. Was that the thinking that we need to create the brand or was it just getting the right products? What was the strategy?
Business Founder
Well, so we had two things. One was the corporate branding for ourselves. And that was always based upon we stand by our. By us, sorry, we stand by our name, our company name and what it represents and what it delivers. And if it fell short, we, we would always be responsible for that. So we were a B2B business in the food distribution sector. So for that we were known that you're a credible company, you stand by what you do. But on the other side, we were developing food brands, drink brands, and that was a very different situation because you're looking at specific markets.
Podcast Host
There were some fun ones there too.
Business Founder
Yeah. So one of them was or is an energy drink brand, some of which have alcohol in them, some which don't. And that was quite a fun journey because that was mostly focused on West Africa, primarily Nigeria. And there we worked with celebrities, with pop stars, with various people like that. And that was a lot of fun. Worked very well for us. And the brand in particular, which is called Bullet, actually became a market leader and still is still ahead of that category.
Podcast Host
Yeah, like when you look at building that brand, you talked about the celebrity endorsement, that sort of thing. Why celebrity endorsement? Because I think a lot of people miss how much that can add value to a business.
Business Founder
Well, it adds credibility in the short term, that's for sure. Yeah, because a lot of these people will not necessarily put their name to a product that they don't like, they don't believe in. It also attracts a lot more attention to the brand immediately. So we did do that, but generally we also did it from the bottom up. So it would be grassroots level, introduction of product and then they see, okay, I'm trying the product, it's backed by XYZ brand ambassador. Follow that up with good distribution because people will say, well, if the company's prepared to invest in the brand in this way, then surely it's likely to sell. So they were all again, self reinforcing messages that were being sent out. The actions were all positive, but we had a good product as well. I mean, ultimately it's got to be.
Podcast Host
Something good that sells great people, great product, great values. Let's talk about the distribution then. Because it's rare that a company gets to hundreds of millions without partners in some way, shape or form. How did you develop the distribution networks, the partnerships, those sorts of things? What was important to make that successful?
Business Founder
Right. So where we were developing our own range of products. We would always stand by the quality of what we are selling. And we always promise to our customers that if you lose any money on anything that that's ours, that we sell to you. We will always underwrite that loss. So somebody comes into it and says.
Podcast Host
Right, so your partners are guaranteed success, basically.
Business Founder
Absolutely. You're never going to lose money with us. So it was always whatever you do, you believed in what we've developed here. You've believed in the individual selling it to you and the management team behind them and the company behind them. Now we have to deliver on that if things go wrong. So that means that they will work that much harder for you from the outset. I don't need to have a huge brand behind me. They just need to know that I will be there if something goes wrong. And if it ever happened, we were. And it did happen occasionally. Not everything works in every market, but when it did, we always followed through on that.
Podcast Host
So global or geographic expansion, I think a lot of companies get very stuck in localization and they don't. Let's just say fear kicks in.
Business Founder
You're absolutely right. It's a perfect word for it that people are scared to go. And I say particularly, people are scared to go to the markets where we are sitting in. In the uk. They'll be frightened to do business in parts of Africa because they don't culturally understand both the culture of the country, but also the business culture. So we would actually embrace that and say wherever it's difficult to go, take the time to learn about it and then do business there, because actually, that's a competitive advantage in its own right. In the future, other people will look at you and say, it must be easy if they can do it. But they've got to go through all those. They've got to jump through all the same hoops we did to get there. And then you're already years ahead. Right? Yeah.
Podcast Host
Now, I know with Action coach now in 85 countries and people are like, oh, it must be pretty easy. Sugar's has done it. And it's like, yeah, right. Go for your life.
Business Founder
Give it a go. Yeah.
Podcast Host
But I know for us developing partners in those foreign markets, we had to really learn the customs, the culture, all of those things. How did you do that in the business? What was the.
Business Founder
Lots of great experiences and a few bad ones along the way. Right. That's how it works. So. So, yeah, mostly it was trial and error, but I think credibility sort of precedes you quite often. And that being the case, we initially had to learn our way and see how things went in some markets. But once that credibility started coming to the fore, we would find that the right people came to you that little bit quicker.
Podcast Host
Yeah, that one's an interesting one that I'd like to ask you about. How did you pick the right partners? Because I know in certain markets, and especially early on for me, I would. If a partner came to us, he'd be like, yeah, we got a partner. And then I very quickly learned. Well, not very quickly, maybe three or four partners in that. I'm pretty sure I should decide which ones. How did you decide that? Was it a values thing? What was the method?
Business Founder
I think it was that same sense of euphoria that's, you know, I'm so happy someone wants to do business with me in that country when I'm looking to enter. So you have that. And look, the partnership has to go both ways. We might be the wrong partner for somebody as well as them being the right one for us. So you would. You would build on that relationship in more sort of formalized ways. You would sign an mou. You would have all those gradual commitments to each other. That's for a certain period of time, a certain amount of business, and if it works for us, we carry on. If not, we part as friends with maybe a future business project in the offing. And then you retain that relationship. You know, you're not right for each other for that particular type of business.
Podcast Host
But.
Business Founder
But that doesn't mean that something further down the line isn't something that would be successful for both of you.
Podcast Host
Yeah. So running the existing business versus looking for more opportunities, always looking for new brands or new things or new markets. Where did you find most of your time was at each phase of growth of the business?
Business Founder
Well, therein lies the right balance. Right. So you start in a very operational role. You're not looking forward so much. You're looking to just make sure everything is steady and sound and running well. And then you start finding one opportunity, a second opportunity, and bring that into the company, reinforce that with your team, or hire the right people to bring in and gradually reinforce the entire team. And then it becomes a more strategic role later on as you get that much bigger. You can't be the operational.
Podcast Host
How big were you when you got out of that operations and really became the more strategic thing? Was it at 10 million, 20 million, 100 million? Was there a.
Business Founder
More like. More like the 100 plus million of that stuff? But you're always heavily embedded in the operation To a certain extent, because you know the business inside out. You've done every, every bit of that company. You've been involved in every operation, you've helped develop it, you've implemented all the systems. So there's that unfortunate default where you can drop back in all too easily and get involved in an operation when you should just try to keep away.
Podcast Host
I've never done that. No. I've never suffered from superheroitis and tried to fix things in my own company. No. You get to a point where acquisition becomes a thing, whether it's someone trying to acquire you or you acquiring other companies for opportunities. Where did that fit in in the growth path of your business?
Business Founder
So we looked at acquisitions along the way, but we didn't actually go for it. And in the end we were acquired, which was the right solution for us as well. But now as a company, I say we. I was telling you earlier that we've now sold a part of the business again, but that part is now going to be looking to acquire other businesses. And that's the, that's the strategy which, which we've agreed going forward. So look, it can be at any stage. In our stage, we were growing sufficiently quickly to not need to look to acquire anybody because we were taking on business so fast and our growth was entirely organic all the way through. More built upon the values, the processes. Yeah.
Podcast Host
I mean having a chairman of the company, your father in law who was a chairman who held those values tight.
Business Founder
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And he instilled those right from beginning. Yeah. And as long as we had the right people that believed in those, it was always that much easier because it is a game of people and it was a question of having all the right people around you that said, okay, that's how we carry the business forward. Those are the values of the company. The direction is X. And that's how we're going to do it.
Podcast Host
Now, going into the sale part of it and selling a major brand or a major segment to the business average entrepreneur. It's my baby. I'm selling my baby. How am I selling my baby? You guys had more of a. Given the size, you had more of a. Not a corporate feel, but more of a business feel to going into selling. But was there still a bit of that? Am I doing the right thing by selling? Is it the right time? How did you get through that phase?
Business Founder
I think you just realize that there are some parts of a business that you can only take so far. So in this particular matter, when we, when we sold the bullet brand it was, it should be owned by a company in its, in its local market or it's, sorry, in its most dominant market, which is Nigeria. They will be able to do justice to that brand. And we probably have taken it as far as we can. And that is almost like a grudging sense of, you know, what we can't do any more. Sitting in London as a full time management team here. It really should be domiciled eventually out of that country.
Podcast Host
Yeah, I think it's, it, it's a strong entrepreneur that at some point can recognize I've gone as far as I can. But that's not just selling a program or selling a product. It's also, you know, your father in law was an amazing example of being like him, stepping back and handing it over like that. That's a good example for you, I guess, of learning that it's time to step back and let someone else.
Business Founder
You have to understand the potential of what you have and say, okay, let's say, just repeating myself, that it was like we saw that that was as much as we could do with it. But there's plenty more that we've developed along the way that probably we haven't had enough time to dedicate to those. So now we'll look at those as well.
Podcast Host
Yeah, that balancing act of okay, we've sold that big one, it was great, now we can focus on these other three or four type thing and build them to sale and build the next one to sale and that sort of thing. Do you think that became a part of the strategy build to sell or do you think it's just build and if someone comes along then maybe.
Business Founder
Sorry, I'm saying it very emphatically. No, it was never part of the strategy. It was never a consideration for many, many years that this was something we'd ever do. But it just became the right thing for us. And that, and that's part of the point of management. Right. You remain pragmatic at all times and you realize that I'm struggling to go any further with this. It needs to be handled differently now. And I think the business world is. You see that everywhere.
Podcast Host
Yeah, yeah. I think that sometimes people do make a mistake of just trying to build to sell and you're not thinking as long term as what your business is. And so I want to finish with that idea. Family business allows you to think a lot more long term than other businesses do in some ways, but it's also going to be more short term in some ways. How did you balance the family business aspect of it, with the business aspect of it.
Business Founder
I think it was what you just said, achieving the balance. What we thought was the right one, that you, you look at monthly numbers, you look at quarterly numbers, you even look at annual numbers and you just say honest to yourself and not trying to cover yourself because there's a shareholder breathing down your neck and say, that was a good year, that was a bad year, we could have done that better. Or that was an exceptional situation. And when you have all of those considerations and you look at them for your own perspective, not for anybody else, then it's a lot easier to make the right longer term decisions. And that is that self honesty. Not, not almost. Also not just saying, trying to, saying I could have done this better and genuinely knowing you could have and not saying, oh, there were excuses, not even that. Just I know this could have been done better, it should have been done this way, or the world moved against me. Covid came, you know, whatever. It could be, nothing we could do about it. And if it did badly in that year, so be it. But we know next year it's not going to be the case.
Podcast Host
What would your final piece of advice be to someone that's I think I can go to hundreds of millions. I'm not sure I can, but I think I can. What's your final thoughts for someone in that situation?
Business Founder
Very difficult question in some respects. But look, I've learned over the years that retaining focus, keeping a right balance in terms of all the people around you, your family, your stakeholders, and particularly your family, they can be your greatest asset. If you create the right balance and if you focus on the right element of your work, what makes the most money, where the greatest potential is, then there is very little stopping you.
Podcast Host
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Title: Scaling Against the Odds: How Grit, Strategy and Leadership Built a $100M Brand
Host: Brad Sugars
Guest: Harmeet Ahuja
Date: January 21, 2026
In this insightful episode, Brad Sugars sits down with Harmeet Ahuja, a food and beverage sector leader, to unravel the journey from a $10M business to building an iconic $250M brand. They explore the pivotal role of process, people, culture, and partnerships on the path to scaling, the importance of values-driven leadership, entering difficult markets, and the realities of selling off a flagship product. This episode offers grounded, actionable advice for entrepreneurs intent on scaling with resilience and authenticity.
Anticipating the Next Stage
“For us it was formalizing certain processes and I think that's key all the way through the journey. The processes that apply for a $10M business is not the same as for a $250M business necessarily.” — Harmeet Ahuja
Preventing Regression
"You're always looking ahead and saying, how can I build something which prevents me falling back?" — Harmeet Ahuja
Consistent Core Values
"We are a family business...you treat all your people as your own and you take them through both the good times and the bad." — Harmeet Ahuja
Transparent Communication
Organic Leadership Development
“We generally hired from the bottom up…people growing through the ranks.” — Harmeet Ahuja
Dual Branding Approach
Case Study: Bullet Energy Drink
Targeted West African markets, especially Nigeria.
Used celebrity endorsement for credibility and rapid attention.
Quote [05:48]:
"It adds credibility in the short term, that's for sure...a lot of these people will not necessarily put their name to a product that they don't like, they don't believe in." — Harmeet Ahuja
Combined grassroots adoption with strategic endorsements and strong distribution.
Guaranteed Success for Partners
"You're never going to lose money with us." — Harmeet Ahuja
Long-Term Relationships
"We might be the wrong partner for somebody as well as them being the right one for us...you would build on that relationship in more sort of formalized ways." — Harmeet Ahuja
Embracing Hard Markets
"People are scared to go to the markets...they don't culturally understand both the culture of the country, but also the business culture. So we would actually embrace that..." — Harmeet Ahuja
Trial and Error as a Learning Tool
"More like the 100 plus million...but you're always heavily embedded in the operation to a certain extent, because you know the business inside out." — Harmeet Ahuja
Growth Was Organic
Selling the ‘Baby’
"There are some parts of a business that you can only take so far...they will be able to do justice to that brand. And we probably have taken it as far as we can." — Harmeet Ahuja
Not Building to Sell
“No, it was never part of the strategy. It was never a consideration for many, many years that this was something we'd ever do.” — Harmeet Ahuja
"You just say honest to yourself and not trying to cover yourself because there's a shareholder breathing down your neck...then it's a lot easier to make the right longer term decisions." — Harmeet Ahuja
On Process over Panic [01:08]:
"Almost always. Always. You're always looking ahead and saying, how can I build something which prevents me falling back?" — Harmeet Ahuja
On Scaling through Values [02:04]:
"It was a set of values that remained consistent throughout the journey. So we are a family business and it was that family ethos all the way through..."
On Selling Your ‘Baby’ [13:32]:
"When we sold the Bullet brand…it should be owned by a company in its most dominant market...We probably have taken it as far as we can." — Harmeet Ahuja
On Family as a Strategic Asset [17:00]:
"Particularly your family, they can be your greatest asset. If you create the right balance and if you focus on the right element of your work...then there is very little stopping you." — Harmeet Ahuja
Harmeet’s Closing Wisdom:
“Retaining focus, keeping a right balance in terms of all the people around you...If you focus on the right element of your work, what makes the most money, where the greatest potential is, then there is very little stopping you.” — Harmeet Ahuja
This episode is a masterclass in scaling authentically, living your values, and knowing both when to double down and when to let go. Entrepreneurs seeking to break through major growth milestones will find actionable, hard-won lessons throughout.