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The Bill and Doug Show: Ohio State Football Talk
Ohio State-Michigan matchup, Big Ten in the playoff & fighting SEC homerism with BTN's Jake Butt
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Jake Butt of the Big Ten Network joins this episode of The Bill and Doug Show to discuss the chances for Ohio State, Indiana and Oregon in the College Football Playoff.
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Bill Landis
Welcome back to the Bill and Doug Show. We'll get to the rants later in the week because we have a very special guest here today with Doug lamaries with Bill Landis. It's Jake Butt from the Big Ten Network, one of the finest broadcasters in all the land. You've heard him on Ohio State games this year. You've heard him broadcasting a bunch of Big Ten games. Jake Butt, thank you for joining us today. And like, how long have you been doing this broadcasting thing now?
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Jake Butt
This is my fourth year and I'm wondering, do Buckeye fans say that? Because every game Ohio State came I call is a blowout for Ohio State. You know, they just like my voice because they associate with Ohio State dominating their opponents.
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Bill Landis
Jake Butt, our guy. That's what they think. Like they'd love you on the national championship game, man. Be like, oh, 30 point Ohio State win. Let's get Jake on the in the playoff games one day.
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Jake Butt
One day.
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Bill Landis
So Jake. Oh, we actually believe that will happen. You're excellent at your job, you know that. You don't need to have us tell you that. Jake. I get bothered every time that like another SEC team beats another SEC team and they're like, oh, this is a great win. And oh, of all the SEC team, there should be nine SEC teams in the playoff. But I've also kind of given up. I appreciate that you're shaking your head a little bit because you're like, no, it drives you nuts, too. On some level, I have given up on, like, getting too wound up about how many teams the SEC is going to get in the playoff and just looking forward to Big Ten teams getting to play SEC teams in the playoff. When you think about Ohio State, Indiana, Oregon, and maybe who else could make the playoff from the Big Ten, what do you feel about the ability of Ohio State, Indiana, and Oregon to really make some noise when we get to the College Football Playoff?
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Jake Butt
I mean, I. I mean, I. Ohio State would be my pick to win the national title right now. I think they're clearly the best team, and Indiana is. Is right there. I mean, they. Indiana just doesn't have the history at this point for anyone to feel confident that they're gonna make some serious noise. But they have the talent. They have a coach with winning history. Maybe not at this level. Little beat up right now, but so is everybody. Health is always a big factor. And just to dunk on the sec, it just. I have. I would say they're a good conference. This is the thing. I. I wish we could just say, man, they're a good conference, but I heard Joey Galloway compared the Big Ten to the ACC the other week. He said the Big Ten is closer to the ACC than the sec. It's comments like that where I'm just like, what are we doing here? The last two national champions are Big Ten teams. And I'd even say this. Isn't it ironic that, you know, back in my day, there was nil going around before nil was going around. I went to camps and I saw the recruiting pitches there, and it had nothing to do with audibly spoken words. It had double bags of cash, okay? And now that the. Now that the rules are equal for everybody, the talent is dispersed and look. Look who's dominating college football. So it. It. I should give up, but I'm still too emotionally invested in it, and I just. I. I would love to see another Big Ten team, I don't care who it is, win another national title and make it five years, a decade before we have to see an SEC team win a title.
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Bill Landis
Billy's making me get my sword out, Jake. You got me fired up. That's the kind of. That's the kind of talk. Because, you know, that's not the talk on all the national shows. And we just deal with reality here, Jake. But, Bill, it's just. It's just spitting hot fire. He's speaking the truth, Billy. Not making stuff up. Not.
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Doug Lemurice
I think we listen. We all watch the sport. We know. We know. I think we all have a.
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Jake Butt
Pretty.
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Doug Lemurice
Well, the three of us, anyway, have a pretty good handle of who. Who the top teams in the sport are. I know I'm not. I will not be like, entirely dismissive of this. Like, Jake, do you think there's anybody in the SEC who is a national title contender? You gotta. You gotta have like one, right? One or two.
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Jake Butt
Georgia's playing. I mean, Georgia's a national title contender for sure. I mean, A and M undefeated. Any. Any of those teams is capable. Like, this is my whole thing about it. Like, teams are capable. SEC has talent. It's my main issue is like, the meat. How the meat of the conference gets discussed and how the bottom of each conference gets discussed. Like when. When Indiana squeaks by Penn State. Let's not forget, even a lot of SEC pundits pick Penn State to go to the national title because of the talent on their roster. But when any SEC team struggles with Florida, that's a good win because Florida has talent. Remember? It's just, it's. I hate illogical arguments, and it's so illogical.
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Bill Landis
You want to come on every week, Jake. Come on, everyone. Come on every week, Jake.
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Jake Butt
I don't think my heart could handle it, honestly. It's increased already just from talking about this.
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Bill Landis
You're singing our song. I will say, like, looking at national title odds, Ohio State in Indiana, like, by the betting public, the clear favorites, Ohio State plus 185, Indiana five to one. Then a big group of teams between eight to one and 17. One. I. I do think. And like, when Oregon's playing its best, Jake, like, when Oregon's doing its thing. Do you think Oregon is a national title contender? Are they a step short of that?
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Jake Butt
I do think they are. And, and I, I just believe from talking to Dan Lanning, like, I don't know when it's gonna happen, but it's gonna happen with him as a head coach. Just. He's just that kind of leader. My only concern right now is they're just so beat up and we don't know how many of these injuries, like, you need. You're gonna need a wide receiver one and a wide receiver two. That that win at Iowa was so impressive because Decoran Moore, injured Kenyon Siddiq, Mackie Award finalist, injured Gary Bryant, injured Evan Stewart, their wide receiver one of the off season, injured Alex Harkey. They're tack. Like, they are really really beat up. And I love their offensive line, their ability to run the ball. But you need to be a complete team to win the title. That's just a truth for anybody.
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Doug Lemurice
Jake, you have recently called Ohio State and Indiana games and I think a lot of us are sort of eagerly anticipating seeing those two teams play each other in the Big Ten championship, provided they take care of business before then. What do you think of those two teams kind of compared against each other, Ohio State and Indiana? You know, there's a lot of Julian saying versus Fernando Mendoza talk, which feel free to delve into. But I'm thinking more holistically like the teams we saw them play last year, we a bit of a mismatch in the trenches. When you, when you see those two teams with your own eyeballs this year, what do you think of that matchup potentially in 2025?
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Jake Butt
Well, you do have to start with both quarterbacks and maybe that's even a microcosm of the conference as a whole. I just feel the conference as a whole has went from a, a known defense run league to the quarterback play is significantly elevated. And how about that, like the top two Heisman contenders, they might just do the Heisman ceremony there after the Big Ten championship game, you know, for those two guys and, and Mendoza is a lottery pick, I think saying will eventually be a lottery pick. I think both those guys biggest strength is their minds. And I think both offenses are predicated on the decision making and ability of quarterbacks to operate. You know, for Ohio State, those wide receivers, when healthy are as good as it gets. And I like Indiana's wide receiver room. It's just a different level for Ohio State for what Ohio State has. On the flip side though, and I like what we're seeing from Bo Jackson and Isaiah west, some of these young freshmen running backs and how they're emerging. I trust Indiana's run game just a little bit more at this point. And then defensively, I mean these are two of the best defenses in college football as well. I just, I mean the one thing Ohio State has that Indiana and that really no one else has is they have multiple lottery picks. CARNELL Tate's a first rounder. Jeremiah Smith is a future first rounder. Arvell Reese is a first rounder. Caleb Downs is a first rounder. I think Sonny Stiles will be a first rounder when he runs a 44 at the combine. So that like that high level talent is just irreplaceable. And especially with Matt Patricia having such great athletes that are also high IQ football players. That's how he's able to mix in some of these exotic looks. And I gotta. Matt Patricia. The NFL experience has been invaluable for Ohio State. One, for like the season management, the length. But two, you know, I don't think Patricia's shown there's still probably another 20% of defensive calls that he could get to that he just hasn't need needed to call yet. So in gotta have it situations, I think you're gonna see other levels of the Buckeye defense because of Matt Patricia's play calling.
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Doug Lemurice
I noticed that you, you snuck in the Pickerington guy there when you were running through all the Ohio State guys. It could be first rounders. That guy. I got it. I got it. Morning.
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Jake Butt
Good run.
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Bill Landis
There's been a some discussion, Jake, about how much has Ohio State actually been tested so far? And. And one of our subscribers on Substack maybe brought up as a comparison a little bit like that 2023 Michigan National Championship team that through the regular season, maybe people had some questions of how much they were tested. I just compared the first 10 games for 2023 Michigan and 2025 Ohio State by what the overall records, not when they played them, but like by the end of the year what they were. The first 10 teams that Michigan played, their winning percentage was 45.2, Ohio State 49.4. Michigan won by an average score of 39 to 8. Ohio State winning by an average score of 34 to 8. I didn't include Grambling State because that's a FCS team. Very similar. Bottom line, does it matter? Like one of these things is like. Like. Well, I don't even know like if it's true. Like, does it. Is that an actual thing to discuss?
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Jake Butt
No, it's not. No, it's not. What are we so. So in a gotta have it situation where we're curious how Jeremiah Smith is going to perform or, or Carnell Tate's going to perform or multi super bowl champion Matt Patricia is going to suddenly forget how to call defenses or Arvell Reese is going to forget how to be the most violent player in college. Like, no. What do we. I just, I don't understand it. I just again, I feel like this narrative is started not even to really genuinely talk about Ohio State, but to bring them down to boost other. As it goes back to the original argument, why are we discrediting teams for being dominant? What do you mean? Like, all your answers about the Ohio State football team can be solved by just watching the film. They're not accidentally dominating teams. They're dominating teams because they're talented and they're better. But the execution in technique is at such a high level. This is just a well coached football team. Even the special teams is starting to come along and that's been like a multi year commitment for Ryan Day. Getting a kickoff return for a touchdown. First time in 15 years. I have zero concerns. And it's, it's also even been used to kind of discredit Julian saying and I'm like his Heisman moment has been the, the totality of work of him operating this offense, dominating opponents and therefore he's earned the right to chill in the fourth quarter some of these games. I, I don't subscribe to that argument at all.
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Doug Lemurice
You don't, you don't believe that you're not good until you lose or almost lose.
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Jake Butt
Quality losses, that's what we love down there. Hypotheticals and quality losses.
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Doug Lemurice
Yeah, it's, it's a, it's a bit ridiculous.
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Jake Butt
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Doug Lemurice
Doug, I want to move to OSU. Michigan. Unless there's anything else you want to ask before we.
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Bill Landis
I don't. Do people care about that game? People getting excited? Yeah. Why not?
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Doug Lemurice
Okay. I guess I'll just ask you sort of generally. Jay, because, Because. Let's listen. I think you can look at the way Ohio State's played, the way that Michigan's playing, say, well, Ohio State's going to win when it goes to Ann Arbor. But he could have said that last year too, and that certainly didn't happen. So the trajectory you see these two teams on right now, they each have a game this week. Michigan plays Maryland, Ohio State plays Rutgers. What do you make of this mashup two weeks out? Like what? Where, where do you see advantages? Where do you see a potential chance for, for Michigan to beat a team that is no doubt going to be an underdog against.
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Jake Butt
Well, I mean, it's, it's every. We all see both of these teams right now. I mean, the advantages for Ohio State is just, they got a, a quarterback that's playing well beyond his years with as deep of a wide receiver room as you'll find. I think Max Claire still has levels to be unlocked that we haven't seen yet. He hasn't had that like breakout, breakout game yet. And he's capable. Ohio State's defense is sound across the board, but you know, Michigan, I, I feel like Michigan has kind of built their, their program to beat specifically Ohio State. You know, like, if you're playing Ohio State, you don't want to go toe to toe and try to outscore them with the offensive weapons. You want to be able to run the ball, control the clock, shorten the game and then play good defense and try to force turnovers. And that's, that's going to be Michigan's exact formula as it was last year. I think the big concern for Michigan right now, I mean, number one, I'll just say this is, you know, last year one of the big reasons Michigan won an Ohio State loss with special teams. You know, Michigan's kicker, Zavata is just lights out. Ohio State's kicker, you know, misses some key kicks on top of the turnovers. Right now, Michigan special special teams is a major issue. It's not even a net even. It is a, it is problematic and it is an issue. I don't see how Michigan can win this game. If special teams is an issue issue against Ohio State, it needs to be a net positive. And then the flip side is, is, you know, Bryce Underwood is a freshman, Julian S a redshirt freshman. Underwood's a freshman. It's been a very volatile year for him. Like, you see clearly how talented he can be at times and then he sees some just freshman mistakes where you're like, I don't know where that, where, where, where did that come from? I think the big benefit for him though is you look at his home and road splits. He's been much better at home, obviously, right? That always plays a factor. But the football fact that this one is in Ann Arbor certainly gives Michigan a boost. But who the heck knows in this game, Seriously, I. One thing I do believe, I don't, I don't think, I think the national title vindicated Ryan Day. Mentally, he's taken another step as a leader and a coach. I don't see Ohio State losing this game. And last year in Columbus was as much about Ohio State losing it as it was Michigan winning it. I don't see Ohio State losing this game. So Michigan's going to really have to, you know, play their best game.
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Bill Landis
When you're breaking down games, Jake, and getting ready for games that you're going to call, when you're trying to figure out what's going to happen, how much of your analysis is ball, is matchups, is the talent of the players and then how much do you account for the intangibles, the emotional effect, the waves of momentum during a season, that kind of thing. And then how different is it for a game like Ohio State Michigan, like a rivalry like Ohio State Michigan, would you include, you know, it's a four game losing streak there, there's going to be this kind of pressure on Ohio State. Michigan can do this. Like, does that enter into how you analyze the game in some way or is it still in the end almost entirely about ball and matchups?
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Jake Butt
It's a little bit of everything. And for me, you know, I'm, again, I'm getting a lot of match it. When it's, I called Ohio State, Grambling State, there was nothing really, you know, emotional to consider in that game. It's just the reality of it. But for Ohio State, Michigan, you, you absolutely have to include it. And I, I know that just from personal experience as a player, like you think about a, you know, when a baseball player has the yips like you talk about flow state, okay, Like a, a great, a great baseball player can enter flow state. They're not even thinking about catching the ball. They're not even thinking, thinking about their operations at the plate. It's just naturally flowing from years of experience and absolute focus. But you get the yips by being so in your head. And this is where like the, the ebb and flow of this rivalry, the winning streak and the losing streak, like that kind of has, it's like a psychological seed that's planted in your psyche. Suddenly, you know, as a tight end, I'm running down the seam. I've caught a hundred seams in my career and made big plays. But, but suddenly I'm thinking, man, if I drop this seam, we're going to lose again. And that, that, you never want to have that thought. And it, it doesn't happen for every player, but it, it does happen at times in games. Like in 2016 when we went in there, we had the better roster, frankly, we were the better team in my Opinion and we dominated that game for the majority. Our defense was doing everything they could. We drive down the field, we're on the 6 inch yard line, we're about to get the snap and hand a fullback dive to Kid Hill. And he had like double digit touchdowns. We had run that play a thousand times with no issues. Fumble the snap, Ohio State recovers. 1. How do you fumble the snap? Because it's Ohio State Michigan and you understand the gravity of the moment. 2. Okay, you fumbled the snap, but you're still dominating the game. But the sentiment on the sideline is, is, damn, we just fumbled Ohio State. Like, wow, we left the door open for Ohio State. They, they, they always come back in these games. You know, there have been times, even in 2013, my freshman year, Michigan should not have been in that game. And yet Ohio State found a way to win. And it's like those, there's like little psychological aspects that certainly play. Ohio State lost last year because of the psychological aspect. You know, Ryan Day is going in there saying, hey, the, the team that runs for more yards wins, rather than saying what give. What is the best version of Ohio State? That has to be my game plan. Psychological. That is a huge piece and it can't be quantified, so it's hard to discuss, but it is a major factor in these games.
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Doug Lemurice
Jake, as someone who has played in it, as you just mentioned, is the psychological aspect of this potentially any different now? Knowing that if you lose that game, your season's not over? Like Ohio State just showed us that last year because prior to the, I mean it was, I guess maybe it wasn't entirely true in the 14 playoff either. But prior to that, if you lost that game, you were done. Like you can go play in a bowl game or whatever, but you're not going to go play in the championship game that you wanted to play in and now you can. And I'm just wondering, like, does that change? It's like the, the mental process of it all or is it once you get between the lines, it's Ohio State Michigan and it means the world and all the things you just said still apply.
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Jake Butt
I don't, I don't think it does, I don't think it does change anything because like in a sense, like that game is the season. It's almost like more important than the season. I mean even, even last year, like Ohio State won the national championship and yet you ask every player, you ask Coach Day, and I imagine you guys in the fan base still, the national championship feels good, but it Stings that Ohio State lost that game and like careers are defined by that. When you say Urban Meyer retired, what's his record against his rival? Jim Harbaugh record against his rival? Like my even legacy is defined by my record in that game. So it, it almost trumps it. So in that sense I, I don't think it. No. Now for Michigan it's a, it's a win and get in. If Michigan loses this one, that'd be their third loss. They're not getting into the playoffs. So Michigan is in a win and get in type situation. And I think for Ryan Day he's even mentioned, he told us he's like, you know, we, this group of players hasn't been to Indy. They want to win a Big Ten title game. So there, there is an urgency for, for both teams.
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Bill Landis
Jake, when you think about this rivalry that it was a 1021 advantage for Michigan during the John Cooper years and it was 17 and 2o state edge and now Michigan's won four in a row. You know, I'm, I'm, I've been covering Ohio State for two decades and I've kind of been waiting for like the equilibrium to settle in right back to the point where like the ten year war even, you know, Earl Bruce was five and four in his tenure against Michigan where it's like, hey, they're both good and you never know what's going to happen. Do you think we'll get there? Like when you project a little forward of what you think this Michigan program is going to be the next several years, what Ohio State's going to be the next several years, would it be good for the rivalry if instead of being like this team wins, now this team wins, now this team wins, we get back to more of a 50, 50 season to season.
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Jake Butt
Yeah, I mean we'll, we'll get there. I don't, I don't know when it's really hard to, to say. I mean I think, I think now it, it's easier for me to say that we will get there just because of like the structure of college football. And each, each programs are, you know, heavily investing into recruiting and into their staff. I mean these are two outstanding programs that are going to have talent. So I think the, the most interesting piece of this though is there's going to come a time where Ohio State, Michigan play Thanksgiving weekend and then have a rematch in the Big Ten title game and maybe meet again in the playoffs. Like there's a chance we could see these teams play each other three times in one season. That's going to be really, really strange to try to figure out. How do you emotionally. I mean, I can't even imagine having to play Ohio State again right after playing that and maybe meet again like that. That to me is going to be really, really interesting.
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Doug Lemurice
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I kind of hope it doesn't happen, to be honest.
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Jake Butt
Seriously. Right.
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Bill Landis
I don't know how to talk people through that. I will say look into to another game this weekend, Jake. That obviously has playoff implications. When we think about USC and Oregon, do you think USC has a legitimate chance to go into Eugene and. And do this? Their. Their offense is the most efficient in the country. One of the most efficient in the country. I think there are some legitimate questions about their defense but they found a way to come back in a to tough rainy environment at home against Iowa. Do you think USC can go into Oregon and win?
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Jake Butt
Oh yeah. I mean they're capable. It's going to be a, it's going to be a huge game for, for both teams. And, and again, I mean like the psychological aspect too for, for Lincoln Riley, like he's struggled on the road and you know, getting that win at Nebraska was huge for them and they've. What, what I appreciate about Lincoln Riley is that it seems like he's moving towards becoming a more complete team. Like they won that game at Nebraska by running the football and playing great defense. They beat Michigan by running for 300 yards. So it's not always just about Winning a shootout on the arm of their quarterback. But in Oregon or that's not easy. And Austin is one of the hardest places to play. That stadium. I've called games there. I could not believe how loud it is. So USC's rolling. That was a great win this past weekend against Iowa. I was really concerned for them about that matchup, but they found a way to get it done. Bigger test the challenge for Lincoln Riley. Like, they're gonna have to be perfect every single game if they make the playoffs down the stretch of the season. So do. Are they capable of that? Remains to be seen.
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Doug Lemurice
Yeah, I'm kind of wondering like, the physicality of. We saw USC like, like I thought handle Michigan pretty well physically in la, but I don't know that we've seen that week after week with usc and I do kind of feel like we've seen that week after week with Oregon. What do you make of Oregon's O line, Jake? Like, to me, like, that might be the best offensive line of the country with the way they run the ball.
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Jake Butt
I agree with you. No, I, I completely agree with you. And it's, it's like almost underrated because I think most people think of Oregon, they think of just like a explosive offense, like they're gonna outscore you a little bit of finesse. But Dan Lanning, like, that is, that team is, is about physicality first. That is a physical, physical offensive line. Their defensive line is really big and strong as well. I mean, it's a physical team. They're Joe Moore Award semifinalist as well. So they, they got a chance to win that award. And then because of the injuries they have at the skill position, like their ability to run the ball, their running back room is extremely, extremely deep. So. And I think Kenyan Sadiq, their tight end is one of the more dominant blocking tight ends in college football. So again, that's going to be a big test. USC is able to sell out and stop the Iowa run, but that's because Iowa really can't threaten you down the field. It's going to be much harder. You have to, you have to stop Oregon's run while still respecting their ability to pass the ball. So it's a much bigger test for the Trojans defense.
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Bill Landis
Can I ask you a question about the business before we let you go, Jack? How you, how you go about it as a broadcaster? You played at Michigan, you're from Central Ohio, but you played at Michigan. But that was when you were just Talking about the 2016 Ohio State Michigan game. You weren't Talking about it as someone who watched it from the stands or the press box. You were in that game as a broadcaster. How did you make the decision? How do you want to go about discussing your alma mater, the team that you played for? Do you ever want to let anything out that's like, listen, man, we know you went there. We know you played there. Versus. I'm analyzing every team the same way. And I think we can see in the sport, there are different broadcasters, there are different people who are on television who go about it in different ways with their relationships to particular teams. How did you think about that? How do you want to go about it?
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Jake Butt
Yeah, I mean, this is how I think about it. Like, I would. No one would believe me if I said anything other than I love my alma mater, and I. I literally gave my body for the University of Michigan. My wife went there. I want my kids to go there. I. I absolutely love Michigan. And when I talk about playing in that rivalry, I'll talk about it when. When it. It's applicable from the context of what it meant as a player and what it meant being in that Michigan locker room. But as an analyst, like, I. I don't overthink it. I am gonna do my best to be as prepared as possible. I'm gonna try to think about what could matter in the games, how matchups could play out, and I'll give you my genuine, honest belief of what I'm seeing and why I think it matters and why. How I think it could affect things down the line. But there's, you know, I get. I get tweets all the time, like, people. This is just Twitter in general. You know, Know I'm complimentary of Ohio State. Like, why. Why are you. Com. Because Ohio State's the best team in college football right now, and they're undefeated. There's. There's. There's nothing further to read into it. It's just my genuine beliefs about Ohio State. When Michigan was 15 and 0 and won the national championship. Maybe you're being a homer. Like, no, they're 15, 0. They're dominating everybody. This is the best team that Jim Harbaugh's had. I'm just giving you my genuine belief. So that's. That. That is. It is really as simple as that. Just be prepared. Try to be as honest as possible and. And just talk about the game through that light period. That. That's really all it is.
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Doug Lemurice
Okay.
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Bill Landis
Seems to work, man. I don't know. I'm not telling. It's like, if you want to put on amazing blue, you know, jumpsuit and run around. I mean, I guess you could, but it seems like this is working for you, man. It seems like this is working for you. Analyze the games and be honest about it. Bill, you got anything else for our new buddy Jake Butt?
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Doug Lemurice
No, just appreciate you being here, Jake and I, I generally do think like we have a lot of conversations about who, who are people's favorite broadcasters in college football. And, and I really do think you're one of the best, man. So keep it up.
- [30:15]
Jake Butt
Appreciate it. Yeah, I mean, honestly, just to put a bow on it, I just love the game of football too. So, like that's, that's all it is. I just, I love it. It's a beautiful sport. So thank you, guys.
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Bill Landis
Do you know what, what's your plan the rest of the season? What? Where can people find you when they say, you know, I don't know if I've seen this guy before, Jake Butt, where can I get. Of course they know where they get, but what are you doing? We want to make sure people can get as much Jake Butt in their lives as possible.
- [30:38]
Jake Butt
Yeah. So, I mean, I'm on Big Ten network every Tuesday night and Thursday morning, Big Ten today and then no more Ohio State games for me. We get, we get two games from each team guaranteed each year. So I got, you know, Ohio State, Grambling State and then Ohio State, Purdue. Our crew got lucky though, is that, that would be true. Normally you only get two Michigan games, like that's valuable property for the network. But we get a third one. I'm calling Michigan, Maryland. So I'm excited to call that game. Understanding the context of. It's the final opportunity for Michigan to play a 60 minute game ahead of the Ohio State game. So that's going to be pretty special for me and our crew.
- [31:16]
Bill Landis
Very cool. Well, go find more Jake Butt wherever you can see him on your television. Jake, we greatly appreciate you taking time out of your busy week to join us here on the Bill and Doug Show. We'll see you down the line and hope we'll have you back soon.
- [31:28]
Jake Butt
Sounds good. Thanks, guys.
- [31:29]
Bill Landis
All right. For Bill Landis, for Jake Butt, I'm Doug Lemurice and that was the Bill and Doug Show.
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Bill Landis
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Jake Butt
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Bill Landis
Do you mean they have all the brands I adore?
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Bill Landis
What a bunch.
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Bill Landis
Applause.