Drake Definitely Beats Buffalo, Baker for MVP, a Bad QB Draft, Guess the Lines, and Parent Corner With Cousin Sal

Summary

The Bill Simmons Podcast – October 6, 2025 Episode Summary

Episode Theme:
Bill Simmons and Cousin Sal break down a wild Sunday in the NFL, highlighted by the Patriots’ surprise win in Buffalo (“Drake definitely beats Buffalo”), Baker Mayfield’s MVP case, disaster QB performances, a “bad QB draft,” Guess the Lines, and Parent Corner. The conversation is fast, irreverent, and loaded with hot takes, stats, gambling talk, and classic banter.

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Patriots’ Upset Win Over Buffalo: “Drake Was the Man”

[03:50 – 09:20]

• Bill is elated after the Patriots (led by QB Drake Maye) beat Buffalo in Buffalo, a rare feat.
• Drake Maye earned Simmons’ adoration for making big plays under pressure:
  • "Drake definitely came through some big ass plays. We needed some wow plays from him." (Bill, 03:52)
• Stefon Diggs stood out as a true WR1 for the Pats, something Bill claims they haven't had since vintage Edelman:
  • "Every single time he needed a play, he was just getting open." (Bill, 05:12)
• The defense and specifically rookie Christian Gonzalez got key stops.
• Sal admits Patriots were deserving winners, but highlights Buffalo’s sloppiness, turnovers, and inability to run (Cook never got started).
• Bill laments the dark post-Brady QB years for Pats fans and exults at finally “having a guy”:
  • “But more importantly, like, they have a guy. They know they have a guy. And there’s only 10 of them and they have one.” (Bill, 08:44)

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AFC/NFC Power Rankings Shuffle & the Implications

[10:59 – 16:13]

• Bill and Sal agree: the AFC and NFC have no truly dominant teams right now.
• The path to the playoffs looks wide open, especially in the AFC after setbacks for Baltimore, Cincinnati, Las Vegas, Chargers.
• "Tonight was the first night I felt like the Pats could sneak into this 6, 7 range..." (Bill, 11:06)
• The schedule remaining for NE looks soft.
• Both hosts express skepticism about Buffalo’s inability to “smackdown” teams and note their close calls.

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AFC Team Standouts and Surprises: Focus on Denver

[12:28 – 16:09]

• Denver praised as the most complete AFC team at present:
  • “Denver has probably... They probably bring the most things to the table out of all the AFC teams. Buffalo is Josh. Which is the difference.” (Bill, 12:57)
• Discussion about whether Buffalo’s defense is as good as advertised and whether Josh Allen can drag them to relevance.

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Cowboys/Jets & Fields’ Historic Futility

[16:11 – 19:05]

• The Cowboys, even without all their weapons, are still competent and well-coached.
• Dak Prescott is praised for being "one of the most competent guys" this year.
• Justin Fields’ stat: 0-26 when the opposing team scores more than 21 points:
  • “I think that's the most amazing stat in the NFL.” (Bill, 16:49)
• Jets defensive futility: First team since 1933 to not have a defensive turnover in the first five games.
• Post-game locker room speeches are under comedic scrutiny; coaches now face pressure to deliver Oscar-worthy monologues every week.

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The Cardinals-Titans Gambling Calamity

[25:41 – 34:01]

• Sal and Bill recount the Cardinals’ disaster: dropped touchdowns at the goal line, botched turnovers, Titans’ miracle fumble return—a nightmare for bettors.
• Sal’s gambler’s lament:
  • "Betting on guys dropping the ball for no reason is just as much damage to Americans." (Sal, 27:15)
• Bill’s theory: players "black out" when they’re about to score, which is why the boneheaded mistakes keep happening.
• Both relive memorable gambling moments of the past and how even rule changes haven’t totally eradicated these crazy endings.

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NFC South, AFC North, and Division Swaps

[33:50 – 34:16]

• They joke that the AFC South and AFC North have swapped roles:
  • “I texted you and Hench today: I think they switched bodies with AFC North.” (Bill, 34:01)
• Point out how mediocre teams might sneak into the playoffs due to injuries and weak schedules.

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Eagles-Broncos: Surprises, Critiques, Romo & Malaise

[34:21 – 41:08]

• Broncos mount a comeback vs. Eagles; Bill lightly roasts Tony Romo/Nantz for declaring the game over too early.
• Philly is panned as “boring” and compared to “Adrian Adonis” sleeper hold.
• Denver’s coaching and the renewed run game with Harvey is praised.
• Bill offers a theory: "The Eagles have kind of assumed the identity of the Chiefs” last year—good but uninspiring.
• Barkley’s “missing burst” for Philly is discussed, with the O-line as a possible reason.

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Baker Mayfield for MVP & Bucs’ Sudden Rise

[41:08 – 45:41]

• The MVP race is turned on its head: Bill makes the case that Baker Mayfield is clearly the front-runner:
  • “He’s clearly the MVP through five games. I don’t know if it’s going to last. But how is he not the—the like—it’s not even an argument.” (Bill, 42:16)
• Sal: "Why is he fourth? … He shouldn’t be fourth in MVP."
• Baker’s statistical feats are noted, especially his efficiency and “clutch gene”—four last-minute drives already.
• Sal wants the Bucs in the Super Bowl for entertainment value:
  • “We get the most entertaining halftime show. ... Let’s just put them [Tampa Bay] in the Super Bowl.” (Sal, 44:01)
• Both hosts delight in Mayfield's gritty, over-performing season in the face of adversity.

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Chargers, Bengals, and More: Teams in Crisis

[45:49 – 49:46]

• Chargers' OL decimated, and the team has fallen below Denver in the pecking order.
• Cincinnati’s fall from grace: “Cincinnati’s 2 and 3. Still the last three weeks, they've been down in games 28 to 3, 28 to 3 and 48 to 3.” (Bill, 46:48)
• Debating if Joe Burrow deserves MVP consideration through absence: "Should he get some votes?” (Bill, 47:45)

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The Bad QB Fantasy Draft

[53:03 – 67:33]

• Bill & Sal draft the “worst QBs” of the week; part venting, part slapstick, partly analytics-driven.
  • Top picks: Jake Browning, Geno Smith, Cooper Rush, Justin Fields, Cam Ward, Jacoby Brissette, Bryce Young, and more.
  • Hilarious takedowns of each QB, such as “Geno Smith has the most interceptions in his first five games since Zach Wilson in 2021.” (Bill, 59:17)
• Geno Smith and Justin Fields both get special scorn for statistical and visual awfulness.
• QBs who only inspire fan hope with “one or two” wild scrambles, or who “black out” and make inexcusable mistakes, are highlighted.
• The draft captures just how dire the QB landscape is for many teams right now.

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Guess the Lines: Bill’s Legendary Hot Streak

[70:00 – 90:00+]

• Bill goes on an all-time heater, correctly guessing 10 of 15 NFL betting lines to the half-point:
  • “10 of the 15 I hit. Exactly. That’s never happened before.” (Bill, 89:49)
• Sal is rattled and jokes about launching an investigation, while Bill attributes his powers to hot water with lemon.
• Notable lines:
  • “Eagles at the Giants – Eagles by 7.5” (70:46)
  • “Bucks in Tampa against SF – Bucks minus 2.5” (75:21)
  • “Colts, Cardinals in Indianapolis – Colts 5.5” (78:21)
• Prolonged banter about teasers, gambling pain, and abusing poor London fans with bad NFL games.
• Quotes:
  • “Hot water with lemon. Victory drink. It's good, which is why I'm sweaty right now.” (Bill, 08:25)

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Parent Corner

[91:15 – 101:54]

• Sal: Discusses bringing back “gifts” for his family after work trips, realizing the cutoff age is “whenever they can get everything they ask for."
• Bill: Rants about the poor streaming quality of college sports games on Flow Sports, venting as a parent wanting to watch his daughter’s matches.
  • “Flow Sports, it’s like $10 a month. Things aren’t going great. Your cameras suck… just figure it out. Get better cameras.” (Bill, 99:24 & 100:07)
• Banter about gift-giving expectations with spouses and the link to kids’ magical beliefs (Elf on the Shelf, etc.).
• Bill reports on college soccer telecasting and Sal recalls his week in Brooklyn for Jimmy Kimmel Live.

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• “It’s like having a herp. Like, that’s it. It’s just—it’s on your lip for the next 20 years when you have one of these quarterbacks.” (Bill, 09:00)
• “Betting on guys dropping the ball for no reason is just as much damage to Americans.” (Sal, 27:15)
• “We should just be thankful these analysts are staying out of prison.” (Sal, 32:53)
• “I don’t know what to say about that story. Yikes.” (Bill, 33:01)
• “They are who we thought they were.” (Bill quoting Denny Green, 33:19)
• “A lot of bad quarterbacks today.” (Sal, 09:47)
• “Would you put, like, a rule—how many you could use in the first seven innings or something?” (Bill, 103:53 – on MLB playoffs pitching changes)

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Episode Takeaways

• The Pats' win over Buffalo is a turning point; Bill is euphoric and bullish on Drake Maye and the team’s playoff chances.
• Baker Mayfield’s MVP candidacy is the consensus “hot take,” with both hosts genuinely advocating for it.
• This NFL season is defined by uncertainty, parity, and some “historically bad” QB play.
• Bill’s clairvoyance on betting lines is a meme all episode long and brings an extra competitive edge.
• The show closes with hilarious, universal Parent Corner laments about ungrateful children, the perils of modern streaming, and family/office antics.

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Highlighted Segments with Timestamps (MM:SS)

• Pats Beat Buffalo, Drake Maye Praise: 03:50–09:20
• State of the Conferences: 10:59–16:13
• Cardinals-Titans Gambling Trainwreck: 25:41–34:01
• Eagles-Broncos and Romo’s Sleep Mode: 34:21–41:08
• Baker MVP Argument: 41:08–45:41
• Bad QB Draft: 53:03–67:33
• Guess the Lines Streak: 70:00–90:00
• Parent Corner: 91:15–101:54

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Language and Tone:
Loose, fast-paced, conversational, and always laced with sarcasm, fandom, and irreverence.

Best For:
NFL fans, degenerate gamblers, sports media junkies, and anyone seeking comedic riffs on the struggles and joys of fandom and parenthood.

Transcript

[A]

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[B]

I am not going to love this, Bill. This is going to be a rough 90 minutes or whatever we're doing here. No, he was, he was freaking great. He still, Drake maybe still barely beat the truly terrible Dolphins and lost to the Raiders, but he made every single throw count today. I mean, I don't even know where you want to start. To me, like, that last play where he didn't get sacked was as big as anything.

[A]

And to me, when he rolled, yeah.

[B]

When he rolled right and hit dig like that was amazing too, by his own 10. But I'll let you gloat. Go ahead, go crazy.

[A]

Well, I really thought this was like a solid team with a chance to be a playoff team before the year. And then they stunk and then there were real signs the last two weeks, but they had to show it tonight. The two big things for me, Diggs was incredible. I was on text threads with Pat's fans, like trying to figure out when was the last time they had a true number one. And as much as I love Edelman, he was like a sort of number one. He wasn't like this. Edelman was amazing. He's one of the best playoff receivers ever. But he wasn't like this, where it's just like every single time he needed to play, he was just getting open. He was creating yards after. So. So that. And then Gonzalez was just outstanding and had the big play of the game that it was such a good play, it almost seemed like it was pass interference. But they replayed it.

[B]

I would have.

[A]

Did you see a replay?

[B]

I saw the replay from down the field, from the end zone.

[A]

They decided to show the good replay.

[B]

I think Chee Gonzalez is what I call him, but whatever.

[A]

But that was just. He didn't play the first couple games, so, you know, they had enough impact. Dudes out there, there's still no depth. There's still dudes that are involved that will not be on the team two years from now. But for the most part, like, we watch football all day. They're not an elite team, but I think they can, you know, kind of swim around in that next swimming pool, right?

[B]

Yeah, for sure. And the Diggs thing is fun to me because he wasn't exactly great with the. With the Bills. Right. So when you give the. Your X team an Fu, when you didn't really maybe give it your all, maybe he did give it at all his all, but he wasn't. It's like, it's always weird. What the hell. That must really screw with their mind.

[A]

Good to start the last. The last year I don't think went great.

[B]

Right.

[A]

And you know, he had at Minnesota, too, is the same thing where people were unsure of what a great teammate he was. But he's been an amazing teammate on the Pats.

[B]

He's found a home blood.

[A]

They've been saying it all year, like, leader, leader, leader. Sometimes these guys find it in their early 30s. But what'd you think of the Buffalo side of this before we dive into more Pat stuff? Because they were really sloppy. They couldn't get Cook going. And the Pats, I think, have an excellent run. D. Cook could never really get unlocked, but I don't know, they. It just was a pretty choppy game for a Sunday night NBC game by them. Yeah, for sure.

[B]

Especially the first half hour or so. Right. There were three turnovers. You guys went back and forth. And that's kind. You kind of needed everything that happened to the Bills today to win that game, Right. They had the two coming into this game. I think they only had two turnovers right of the whole.

[A]

They gave us two in the first.

[B]

Half, two in the first.

[A]

We gave them four extra points by not going for it on the one yard line with four seconds left, which I did not. I thought they should have gone for it because you need points to beat Josh Allen. I just would have. I. I just feel like Drake should be able to get a yard on a sneak. He's six foot four, he's £230. Like we should be able to get a yard.

[B]

I don't know why that wasn't the play with 10 seconds left though. Sneak. Because you had a timeout left, right? Well, what was it, six seconds? I don't know what you. I forget what you had.

[A]

We had the four seconds left, but four seconds left. I don't know. It's just. I thought they got conservative, but obviously they felt like they could slow down Buffalo's defense enough. Turned out to be the right call. It was a. It was a variable master class.

[B]

It really was.

[A]

I thought he really like the pace of the game, how they tried to control, keep Josh off the field. It was all the stuff like he did when he was in Tennessee. I also want to say, go ahead, I'm celebrating. I have. I don't know if you can see it, but I have nice hot water with a lemon I named. I'm going to burn my hand pulling it out.

[B]

Is this the Bill Simmons? Like there's an Arnold Palmer.

[A]

No, it's the Drake May. That's what this is. It's the hot water with the lemon. Victory drink. It's good, which is why I'm sweaty right now. Listen, on behalf of all Patriots fans, you know, we had Brady for two decades before that. We didn't really ever have anybody. And then we hit that bleak. You don't have a quarterback stage at things again where. And we knew the whole time with Brady, it wasn't like we were like, oh, I'm taking this for granted. It was like, oh man, this is going to end. It's going to suck. And then you have all these dudes and Mac Jones turned out to be disappointing. I'm glad he's found himself a little in San Francisco. And Cam Newton and, you know, Hoyer's in there, all the zappy, all these dudes. And you start to wonder like, how many years are we just not going to have a quarterback? Like if you're the Raiders right now, if you're the Browns, you know, sometimes this could be two Three decades. And they have a guy. And so they beat Buffalo. But more importantly, like, they have a guy. They know they have a guy. And there's only 10 of them and they have one of them.

[B]

Love this. Love this. Love that you're overconfident again. Love that. This means we could, we could wait a couple weeks before digging into if Zion's going to win comeback player of the year for this.

[A]

Oh, that's next week. Last week.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I love it. I love right where you are. No, but of course I, I get what you're saying. We sit through those 1pm Eastern Games and you have to figure out. I think we're going to do the exercise in a few minutes.

[A]

Yeah, we're going to do a bad QB draft later. I mean, there's. We saw so many bad quarterbacks today.

[B]

So many, so many.

[A]

But that's it. It's like, it's like having a herp. Like, that's it. It's just. It's on your lip for the next 20 years when you have one of these quarterback. I call it a herp. A herp, yes.

[B]

Is that possible?

[A]

A herp.

[B]

Herp. Never heard that. Oh, my God. Now everyone's gonna forget about the hot water because the herp is.

[A]

Well, I'm not gonna forget because I. I'm starting to sweat.

[B]

I probably need the road for no reason. 77 degrees.

[A]

Of course, my wife was hanging out in the back with a friend of hers, having then came in and there was like, it was just classic, two and a half minutes left and I was like, hey, you know. And then she looked and saw the score and at least we'd been together long enough where she was like, oh, you know, it was 20, 28 and a half point underdogs. What'd you think of that line? Did you take the Pats, by the way?

[B]

No, I didn't take the Pats. Ask me the other side. Ask me if I had the Bills money line to close out a bunch of parl. That's the question you should be asked.

[A]

Well, I know you had the Cardinals. I cannot, absolutely cannot wait to talk about that.

[B]

No, we can't talk about that. I'm going to need till Wednesday before I talk about that.

[A]

So there are no undefeated teams left and there is only one winless team, the jets of New York City.

[B]

Right.

[A]

Even though they play in New Jersey and there's a bunch of four win teams. I have no idea who the best team in the AFC is anymore. And I'm not even sure who the best team in the NFC is anymore and I'm not even sure who the 14 playoff teams are. But tonight was the first night I felt like the Pats could sneak into this 6, 7 range Baltimore with the year from hell. You have Cincinnati's out with Burrow. We thought maybe Vegas. Even if you give two playoff teams to the AFC south, probably one from the north and then the Chargers today, who their offensive line just like completely cratered and their defense kind of died and they look terrible. So we might only get two, two from the NC West. So that does leave a spot for them. The schedule is super easy and well, you thought that was the.

[B]

You had them as a. Yeah.

[A]

Then they lost to Las Vegas who hasn't won since and who looks like they're one of the worst teams in the league. So you're back at it.

[B]

You're back at it. Is is anyone's game. I still think the Bills are the premier team in the afc although I you would think that the smackdowns at home would occur. Like you know, they had a little trouble with the Saints last week too before they got you know, right at the ship. And then this week it's interesting. Interesting.

[A]

This is a watch every week you go back, you look at the Bills first four in that 41 to 40 Ravens game that seemed so awesome and it seemed like it was going to be an AFC title preview. We don't feel that way anymore. They beat the Jets. Everyone's beaten the Jets.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

Beat the Dolphins by 10. They beat the Saints who hung around. They couldn't beat the Pats today. They don't really have an awesome start to finish win yet. Whereas I look at a team like Denver that's three and two. It's two plays away from being five and oh but has some. Some you know, good start to finish performances. I thought they were great today. Like if you. If you're just talking about best both sides teams in the AFC right now. I'm not saying it's going to last, but I think Denver has probably the. They probably bring the most things to the table. Out of all the AFC teams. Buffalo is Josh. Which is the difference.

[B]

Well, that was the defense right. That. That we thought would show up at some point that we saw last year with Denver. They were excellent. I think they dropped. They dropped them five or six times Hertz. Probably five. But yeah, really good. And you know we killed Nick's all week and last two weeks and his QBR is bottom four, bottom five but he made some big throws Too.

[A]

House called him out on the podcast and. Cause he really wanted to take the Eagles money line. It was like, if Bo Nick sticks it to us, so be it. He's been blah, blah, blah. And he was really bad for the first two hours of that game and then kind of rose. Can we do Mike and the Mad Dog for the rest of the PAT schedule? Do you want to be Mike or Mike or Dog?

[B]

I always like being the dog, but.

[A]

All right, you be the dog, I'll be Mike.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

Patriots are three and two. Week six at New Orleans.

[B]

This is a tricky, tricky game, Bill. A little bit of let down. We saw what they did in the Super Dome. Don't give it a W just yet, but we'll, we'll. I'll tell you what, we'll give them a win. We'll give them a win, okay. At the Titans against his old team. You know, they both had this circled on the calendar. It's got to be a win. They don't win this, forget it.

[A]

So if they. I forgot to be Mike. So dog. If they, if they beat the Saints and Titans, they're five and two. Home CLE Home Cleveland. Week eight.

[B]

I know that defense comes alive, but again, this is a variable victory right here. I think you get three in a row, including this build. Yeah, you're going to win that one.

[A]

So that. I'm going to be Bill for a second. No, I'm going to be Bill for a second. So they're already on a two game winning streak. So beating Saints, Titans, Browns would be a five game winning streak. That feels too good to be true. 6 and 2. They're either 5 and 3 or 6 and 2, I think realistically. All right, back to being Mike. Week nine, Week nine, Atlanta. Home.

[B]

All right, now I'm going to be Bill for a second. Anytime Penix has walked up against this. No, Atlanta. Atlanta's home. It's in New.

[A]

Yeah, where's that? All right, we'll scrap back at the top. Week nine's Atlanta, go ahead. Week 10's at Tampa. Yeah, that's a tough one. Week 11, Thursday, jets. I don't know what quarterback the jets will be on at that point. Week 12 at Bengals. No, no, Burrow.

[B]

Oh man.

[A]

Week 13, home for the Giants on a Monday night. Week 14 by week 15, Bills. Week 16 at Ravens. Week 17 at Jets. Week 18 Dolphins. Like, this is why I picked them to make the playoffs. That's some fucking crazy schedule. They have three hard games.

[B]

You know, this has gotten so bad that I'm now, looking at them to win the division, I hate. I hate that I'm doing this.

[A]

This is great.

[B]

Plus three. 60. That's actually about right.

[A]

Right. They're plus 360 to win the division.

[B]

Look at you now. Look at you.

[A]

No, that seems low. Well, Buffalo has. I mean, just their hard road games left at Atlanta, at Houston, at the Patriots, at Cleveland. I mean, they have an easy schedule, too. This is the whole thing with the AFC east. Why we thought there might be two.

[B]

If you could beat them again at home. That's, of course, it's your division to take.

[A]

I think, by the way, when we talk about. We have a quarterback. Thank God, like, you're. You have that with Dak right now. Like, Dax been great this season.

[B]

He's like 30. Yeah, yeah.

[A]

Oh, no. But he's. You know, I think Dak, people kind of forgot. I don't think he had the greatest year last year, but watching all the TVs today, he was one of the most competent guys by far.

[B]

Oh, for sure. Yeah. Yeah. I. I just don't know what the Jets. I really don't know. I. I can't give that too much credence. But, you know, he's doing this without CD Lam. He's. He's tossing the ball and, you know, offensive lineman. Yeah.

[A]

You guys are missing a whole bunch of people. Yeah. So just quickly on that game. Cowboys, Jets, Fields now. Oh, and 26. When the other team scores 21 plus points. I think that's the most amazing stat in the NFL. So if you get to 21 points, Fields can't win, basically. Oh, and 26, like, think how many games that is. That's almost two seasons of games.

[B]

Yeah. Even your defense could score and it wouldn't help you because you're scoring less than 20 there. Wow. Yeah. I feel bad for that coach. I don't want to say they're the worst team in the league, but when you don't have wins five weeks in, you're right there and it feels like Aaron Glenn's. The team's punking him. Right. They can't tackle. They, you know, they fought. They have four, like you said, Fields four and a half yards per pass. I think allowed five sacks to the Cowboys, who had five sacks all year. You know, that said, we're a game and a half behind the Eagles with the home matchup against them, so NFC east is ours. I can't believe we're not favored.

[A]

Was going to ask you no. 9, 7 and 1 is a possible Cowboys record. I'M just saying it's possible. Is that a playoff spot in the nfc? Is that a seven seed?

[B]

Oh, I think so, yeah.

[A]

Nine, seven and one.

[B]

I think so. I think there'll be a nine and eight battling at the end, but I don't. We have a really tough. I don't want a mic in the Mad Dog this, but we have a.

[A]

No, you do have a tough one.

[B]

We have a tough stretch. Games like weeks 12 through 17 is bad.

[A]

It was an interesting game today because like Shield had a stat that the jets had the most 10 plus plays. 10 plus yard plays today. They had 1910 plus yard plays. They actually moved the ball. They had. They got stopped on a couple fourth downs. They had a fumble inside the 10. They're also defensively. I can't believe the stat's true, but I read it on espn so I'm assuming it's true. They're the first team since 1933 to not have a defensive turnover in the first five games to not have a single turnover. It's not happened since 1933, apparently.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

Yeah. How's that possible? But I guess it's possible.

[B]

Oh my God.

[A]

It's almost 100 years.

[B]

I feel now I feel extra bad for Aaron Klein because that's. He. He has to count on at least three turnovers through five weeks.

[A]

Right. That's supposed to be his big thing. Right?

[B]

Right.

[A]

So then I think Rich Chimini is one of the. One of the guys who covers the team. He said that first half that they played was on par with the gay Sarah. The worst of that. The worst of what? Did he say the CO T era? Like the. The worst coaches they've ever had. It was the worst half he'd seen since.

[B]

I thought he said gay Sarah. I was like, what did you say? What is this?

[A]

Remember Adam Gase when.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

He's now, I think coaching high school flown out.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

So on the Cowboys, are you Ewing theory. Do we have to send you in theory committee to Dallas? Like, what are you thinking? I just think you never won anything with Micah Parsons.

[B]

I was bummed within tie. I wanted like 14 ties at the end of the year. I wanted to go like, you know.

[A]

Like 8, 6 and 3.

[B]

No, not even that much. 2, 3 and 11. You know, like an English premiere record or something. But yeah, I'm all right. I was ha. I was overall happy with the 4040 performance and I'll be all right again until like November when it gets tough again. So we should beat the Panthers. So. And we have trouble with them typically. And so let's see what happens next week.

[A]

Well, you seem fairly well coached, at least on offense. Yeah, yeah.

[B]

So good, you know, you like that round? I haven't seen that. You see that roundup, the locker room speeches by the coaches?

[A]

Like, I didn't see his today. Was it good?

[B]

It was good, yeah. He said the players usually sit in the back of the plane. Today the players sit in the front of the plane. That's what happens when you get a road win. So that's nice. There's some steps.

[A]

Well, it feels like there's an incredible amount of pressure on those speeches now.

[B]

Yeah, right, right, right.

[A]

They got a guy with a 4K HD camera 7 inches from your face, and you basically have to turn in a Pacino in any given Sunday every week. And you've got to remember who the four people who get the game balls. And you got to go around, you got to make eye contact with everybody. You got to have the right enthusiasm. Like, what if somebody's just not good at that? They just tell them no cameras.

[B]

Then they're not going to get the Oscar. They're not getting the Coach of the Year award. I mean, I really do think everything else equal, those dumb speeches make a difference, you know? Not that Dan Campbell's won too many of them, but I think he's great at that.

[A]

Do you think Dennis Green must be wherever he is? I don't know if he's dead or alive. If he's. If Dennis Green is like, like, man, I really missed my era. We'd been in this era of being filmed with the post game speech with the 4K camera. I would have been fucking Newt Rockney.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

It'd been amazing.

[B]

Is there a class you should take before that? Is that as important as everything? And so that you should take a class to just kick ass in 40 seconds in a post game? It's longer than that.

[A]

It's like four minutes. And you have to. You have to remember, like, different things. Right, right. I like when they have to. When they throw the game ball and the guy has to then talk.

[B]

Yeah, right.

[A]

And it's like the. It's like the Nickelback or like the kicker. You're like, yo, we got a great group of guys in here, man. Gotta keep it up, man. Let's keep. Let's keep working. And they just kind of. They don't know what to say. They need to crush those guys, too. Yeah, they're just not ready for it. And then some guys will be amazing.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

All of a sudden they're like, they're turning into like a preacher.

[B]

Some go too long, they should maybe play them off or I'll do the comedian thing where they shine the light or something. But yeah, it sucks all the energy out. The long snapper doesn't need to go for three and a half minutes.

[A]

My favorite was last week when that we talked about that Ben Johnson one last week when he was basically like this is what we knew. And it was like they the other team could have had a field goal and he would have lost. All they had to do is make a field go. You're not giving a speech.

[B]

Well, we could talk about the Titans when we get to them, but that speech can only include about what the other team did to fuck up and not how great your team was.

[A]

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[B]

I All over the place. All over the place. I had them the ringer, 107 minus 8 and a half. Loved it. Had a moneyline parlay. Loved it. Had him in multiple eliminator pools to a point where you know when they blow, when a team blows the spread for you, you're like, good. Screw them. I hope they lose the game.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And even though I knew I was going to be out a bunch of eliminator pools and money and everything else, I still hope they lost the game. And then they lost the game.

[A]

You got that spiteful.

[B]

Yeah, it was that spiteful. Now I'm angrier. It's funny because like people ask me, my wife is like, don't you get tired of watching the same games over and over? It's like, no, no, no, they're not the same. Because in this one, an idiot dropped the ball at the goal line with no one around them. And then another idiot intercepted a ball and then fumbled it. And then a second moron, instead of jumping on it, kicked the ball. Pretty cool, right? Every week it's something different.

[A]

But 21 6, we just talked about this last week. We were talking about the degrees of stupidly ruining your own touchdown. Because who is the guy who was the guy who did it last week?

[B]

Donnie Mitchell for the Colts.

[A]

The guy in the Colts.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And they'd be five and oh, maybe if he doesn't do that.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

With the demarcato today, this was the worst one. This is. He's slowing down and like dangling it like he's Michael Jackson dangling the baby over the balcony and just like, just run over the goal line. You have one job. Just keep going. Do it in the end zone, Run into the end zone and then dangle it.

[B]

Right.

[A]

And also, like, we have proof of concept that this is stupid because multiple people have done it and then gotten excoriated for days and weeks afterwards about how dumb they were. And now it's still happening.

[B]

Yeah, the touchdown drop at the goal line is like, it causes life changing stress. I really feel it does. Like, for gamblers and fans of Arizona, like, yeah, it's affecting the health of like tens of thousands of people. I know we want to get rid of like red dye and Skittles. It's fine. You know, it's shitty for you. No one's arguing. But betting on guys dropping the ball for no reason is just as much damage to Americans. I really. I feel like they should. You should. First of all, you should have to pay a million dollars if you do that. I don't care where you have to find a fine. A fine and jail time. Three years in prison. You hear that? Amari di Mercado. What a terrible person he turned out to be. Oh, awful.

[A]

He's going to try to do better. He's going to learn from his mistakes.

[B]

Not with my money backing him.

[A]

I think I said this a couple years ago and this happened and I'm just going to reuse the point I made because it was one of my better points. I think you just black out when you're about to score a touchdown. Like, I think you lit. You lose your mind. Like, that guy's running. He had a 76 yard touchdown, right? He's running full speed. He got through. You're sprinting down, everybody's cheering. You see the goal line at the end, you're on like the big scoreboard. You can see yourself and you're running and you're just like. I think you just like blackout.

[B]

You're out of your mind. How many touchdowns have we seen where they don't drop it at the goal line? They don't black out. How many touchdowns did this guy.

[A]

I think you lose your mind.

[B]

We don't think this guy ever scored.

[A]

Touchdowns to drop a ball before you go college.

[B]

Probably had a thousand touchdowns in high school. You don't think.

[A]

Give me another explanation. That's my working explanation is you black.

[B]

Out, he loses he blacked out. All right.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Well then he should say that. He should say that. I wonder how. I hate that so.

[A]

Because the other explanation is I thought it would be fun as I crossed the five to dangle the ball and see how close I could come to losing it while I held onto it. That's the only other explanation, I guess.

[B]

Guys. That's insane things. You know what, Can I say something in his defense? Even though I hate his guts, I do. And I'm not sure they should overturn that. Honestly.

[A]

It could have been over the.

[B]

Just leave it. Why do this to people? Let's just keep it a touchdown.

[A]

Well, so I didn't even want to watch this game.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And there were only four late games and it was just perfect for the multi view. And I always think it's weird when there's like three in the multi view and there really wasn't a great Yankees was a blowout.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I was just like, all right, so I'll keep it on. So you have that play. But then, then Ward who wasn't good for three plus quarters and then got really good in the fourth quarter. But he had a bad pick. I don't think the guy caught it. Like they kind of glossed over that. Like he caught it, he rolled over and then he just threw the ball in the air. And it's usually like I have no idea what is. As we talk about every week, I don't know what's a catch, what's not. I guess it was a catch. But then we ended up reenacting the Dave Casper Raiders play which was one of the great plays of our childhood. It was like one of the first great gambling moments. I forget they're playing like the Chargers maybe. And then it's the last play and he's about to get tackled and he just kind of fumbles it and they just start kicking it forward and then the Raiders land on it in the end zone. Cause they cheated all the time at everything back then. And they had to change the rules. They changed the rule that you couldn't do that. And yet somehow the Titans did it today.

[B]

Right. And yeah. Like I said, disgusting. Kicking it over. And you know, so it was. I'm just trying to figure out the spread. Right. So the 8 1/2 21 6D micardo should score. It should be 28 6.

[A]

The game's over.

[B]

They don't match. Definitely not losing the game at that point. Right. I don't 95% covering at that point. Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. You would need the two touchdowns. Well, the other thing is they score and they cut was to 9 with the extra point coming. And instead of going for two, they went for one and missed the extra point.

[B]

Right. Which made me think.

[A]

So Arizona was still Arizona -9. So they did, like, a little dick tease for the Arizona bets. Like, no, no, we're still going to fuck this up for you.

[B]

I had a bunch of those dick teases with Cincinnati, too. I had them. I just got to stop with bad teams and bad quarterbacks. Just the ones.

[A]

I mean, as you know. I do. I just would never put Kyler Murray in a teaser parlay, ever. It's one of my rules. Although another one of my rules is don't bet on the Europe game. And I still continue to do that.

[B]

Not early enough. Yeah.

[A]

So did you see that clip where it's possible he got a mild concussion from the shotgun snap?

[B]

Yeah, the ball had him. You can't really even make this up anymore.

[A]

Like, he got his belt. It almost was like Tim Anderson, Jose Ramirez, kind of like. Kind of like did one of those. And they had to take them off. That was another thing that happened in this game. But that wasn't. Yeah, we mentioned all these things. The highlight of the game.

[B]

Yeah, go ahead. Yeah, the highlight.

[A]

Spiro Dietis and Adam Archuleta, our announcers.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Tennessee has the ball. They're down two, and they're driving, and they have a. They're. They're clearly just settling for a field goal to win the game. And Spiro goes. Tennessee isn't thinking about the field goal. They're going for the win. It's like, well, field goal does get them annoying, so I think Adam Archuleta feels bad. So now they're setting up the field goal, and they're, like, killing time. And Adam Archuleta does this monologue that includes the sentence. This could be a devastating loss for the Arizona Cardinals. Oh, really, Doc? You think so? You think being up 216 and then dropping the ball in the goal line and then blowing. Blowing a giant lead and then losing at home, and now you're two and three, you think that was a devastating one?

[B]

That's what he's like, the crow and booger nights. He felt bad for Spiro, so he felt bad for. He went up them there. Interesting.

[A]

Yeah. The producer was in his earpiece, like, yo, you got to say something. Dumb Sparrow just really, really blew it right there. You got to. What up?

[B]

Listen, we should just be thankful these analysts are staying out of prison. And if they can't make Sense, whatever that was.

[A]

I don't even know what to say about that story.

[B]

Yikes.

[A]

Anyway, Arizona you liked. You picked them to win the division.

[B]

Yeah, I did. I did. And I was about to say, I.

[A]

Don'T think that's going to happen.

[B]

They're going to be the worst 3 and 2 team of all time, but now they're 2 and 3 and they're just the worst 2 and 3 team of all time.

[A]

They are who we thought they were. I. I had an up and down over unders for the win totals. I have a division that I think I'm going to get every single team run.

[B]

Every team. Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

I went 0 for 4 in the AFC South. I had Indy 7 1/2 under, Houston 9 1/2 over. Jacksonville, 7 1/2. I think I went under on them. And then Tennessee five and a half over, and I think it's going to be a clean sweep. And there are some other divisions I nailed, but it was like, wow. I just did not figure out anything that was happening.

[B]

As laughable as those teams are, if Jacksonville beats Kansas City tomorrow, that's the AFC South. Might be the most, well, competitive division, might I say, in this afc.

[A]

I texted you and Hench today. I think they switched bodies with AFC North.

[B]

Right. Although now New England.

[A]

No, the AFC north, not the East.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, right.

[A]

The Baltimore Cincy, Cleveland, Pittsburgh. That's the new AFC South. Those teams all suck.

[B]

I'm with you.

[A]

9 and 8 is probably going to win that. Pittsburgh fans will be like, no, no, we don't suck.

[B]

We're really good. No, you're not.

[A]

You don't have a good team. All right, Eagles, Broncos, let's talk about that. 17:3, Denver comes back. I know Romo's your guy. I'm just going to be mildly critical because we just.

[B]

He's right over my shoulder here.

[A]

Be careful. Romo and Nance were asleep. It's 17:3, Denver. All the yardage in the first downs were pretty even and Knicks missed a couple throws and they're like, the game's over for them. Even when it was 1710, I don't. And then all of a sudden, Denver's driving again. And Romo's like, jim, I don't know. All of a sudden this is a game. And it's like, it's been a game the whole time. The Eagles have done jack shit on offense. The Denver defense has been amazing. This has always been a game. But then.

[B]

Can I defend them for a second?

[A]

Yeah, defend them.

[B]

Go ahead. The Eagles put Them to sleep. They're boring. We said they were boring. Offensive.

[A]

Who did the sleeper hold? Adrian Adonis.

[B]

Adonis.

[A]

Who's the number one sleeper holder?

[B]

Over my other shoulder.

[A]

But who's our number one sleeper guy? Was it Adonis?

[B]

Yeah, yeah. Roddy Piper and Adonis.

[A]

And Philly's the Adrian Adonis.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah, that's it.

[A]

He's dead. They can't invite him to a game.

[B]

That's true. That's true. He'd be good on the offensive line.

[A]

You're going to get Adrian Adonis.

[B]

No. Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

A lot of bad stories about him.

[B]

Lots of leather jackets, bad. Hell's Kitchen fights in the shoots.

[A]

Fights in the locker room. Like a legendary locker room fight. I can't remember with who he get his ass.

[B]

It wasn't boring. Wasn't boring.

[A]

Boring. Eagles are boring.

[B]

Yeah, Very boring. And they got screwed a little bit. I don't care. Because of the Eagles. But that was a bad unnecessary roughness call at the end. You know, he's. He's going for another yard. He's clearly going for, you know, lunging and so I don't know. I wouldn't have called that, but they should be able to hold the lead against Bo Nix. Made some good throws, but that's. That was it. But like I said, that's the Denver team we were waiting to see all year.

[A]

Well, so they got the running game going, which started on Monday night. You could see it against Cincinnati. Harvey right as they were just trying to put a drive together. Harvey had a really nice run around the right side where they had him. And he just had the speed and got around and it felt like it got them a little juice. And then I thought, Nick's finally looked like the guy from last year in the last hour of the game. Like, he made some big ass plays and some good runs. Their sideline was locked in and I loved when they went for two. Yeah, that's like the perfect example of. He's been talking since the summer preseason, whole thing. I like this team. I think we're really good. Even when they lost those two games. We're good. We lost to good teams. We're a good team. And then he proved it. He, he. He went for it on two, ran a great play, and they went 18, 17.

[B]

I don't remember seeing that with like seven. Was it, wasn't it like seven minutes left when he went for two, or was it four? It was like half the quarter.

[A]

It was, yeah. Halfway through the quarter.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah. That was ballsy. Yeah. Like that coach man, he's good and you know now we're going to talk Denver all of a sudden plus two 90 to win the AFC West. We flip flop on this a lot.

[A]

But well how about this. They're three and two. They're two plays away from being five and oh their next five. They're playing the jets in London next week. They're playing the Giants in week seven. They're playing your Cowboys in Denver in week eight at Houston Week nine and then Raiders on Thursday night. Week ten. That's at least four and one.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

Unless they really screw the pooch on one of those.

[B]

Wait a minute.

[A]

And Pete Carroll might have just retired by then.

[B]

So you think this we should. He should.

[A]

It might just be like that him and Belichick should just get go into the assisted living together.

[B]

So nine and a half wins because FanDuel's great with these updated win totals is minus 1 25. They're going to get to 10 if they play anything there's today they'll get to 10.

[A]

Jets, Giants. That has to be two wins in a row. You just have to win both of those. Your team you know I think your team can can move the ball. It seems like on anybody I don't know doesn't really matter who the team is. You don't agree?

[B]

Yeah, we can. I just that defense is going to show up or not show up week to week.

[A]

So it bothers me at Houston Week 9 there was a CJ Stroud resurgence today that I would just tell everyone be careful going against that ravage Baltimore team.

[B]

He was telling us be careful. He what do you say earlier in the week he's like I feel like an old man. I feel old. It's just I can't move the way I used to.

[A]

He's 23. Four months ago one thing on the Eagles I have you noticed that they've kind of assumed the identity of the Chiefs last year I was wondering if it was like that movie it follows in New Orleans in February after they beat the Chiefs. They just took their being interesting where it's like they're just in these games but it doesn't feel right. But their record's good and their stats are okay and they're always one play away from being fine. And yet it just doesn't seem like everything's right. And I don't even know what it is other than the malaise of watching the Eagles.

[B]

Yeah, they're taking the win.

[A]

Their corners are weird.

[B]

Like I all the good teams because The Ravens used to be the team that could score but not hold the lead. Right. How many double digit leads did they blow in the fourth quarter? It's always a Harbaugh number against them. I feel like that's what we're seeing out of the Eagles. Up big against Tampa and then gigantic plays and Tampa's right back in it. Right. This week, Same kind of thing. So. Yeah, unlike the Chiefs, who struggle to get to 17 points by the fourth quarter, for the most part. Yeah. This week I don't. I don't know what's up with them. I really don't.

[A]

Paying a lot of money for those receivers that they seem to just take out for a Sunday drive and that's it. And then Barkley just hasn't done anything yet. And you know in The Pats in 04, when they got the Corey Dillon. The last super bowl they won in the 2000s, they got this awesome Corey Dillon year.

[B]

Right.

[A]

And he was like rejuvenated and it was great. And then they brought him back for the year after and it was. It was kind of a year too late for him. I don't think that's the case for Barkley because he's pretty young, but he does not look like the Barkley from last year. So I would love to know. I know the offensive line's not the same.

[B]

That's it, I think. Yeah.

[A]

But even it doesn't even feel like they're using him in the same ways like on those little flare passes and wheel routes. I don't know. They just haven't unlocked him. So when I watch them, he just doesn't jump out of the TV anymore. And I don't really understand why.

[B]

No. And he. Because he seems helpful. You pay a lot for that TV. That's like a $30,000 TV. If you want him to jump out of the screen, he should be able to do it. No. Yeah, he caught that touchdown. That was a nice bubble pass. It wasn't that much.

[A]

Patsy, you're thinking of our cousin.

[B]

That's right. Craziness. Yeah. He caught that touchdown pass. But you don't. You don't really expect. You don't see the 25 touchdown pass a good example.

[A]

Like he would. That shit was happening all the time. He would have games last year where he just single handedly won the game.

[B]

Yeah, sure.

[A]

And that really happened in this year. The other one that was really fascinating was Buck Seahawks.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And we were texting afterwards and I was already on it about Baker mvp. What is it now? Did it Go down. It was 131 after the game and I'll set this segment up properly.

[B]

Still 13 to 1.

[A]

Still 13 1. Okay, so in the fourth quarter of that, of that Bucs Seahawks game, I went on Fanduel and looked at the odds for him for MVP and it was still 15 to 1. And I was thinking, nobody has played better than him this year, period.

[B]

No doubt.

[A]

And it was weird because of course on NBC after they're talking about Dak and somebody else are like, no quarterbacks have played better than these dudes. It's like, you mean other than Baker Mayfield who has four last minute drives already and who's been absolutely fucking incredible and lost Bucky Irvin and lost Mike Evans and didn't have Worfs and Godwin for the first couple games of the year. And just every game keeps them in and has this competitive spirit. Like he's clearly the MVP through five games. I don't know if it's going to last. But how is he not the like, it's not even an argument.

[B]

Let me just say, well, we're doing this live. This line is going to be plus 8:50 tomorrow. Based on this conversation. That's how much I believe. I'm not kidding. What? Why is he fourth? First of all, Mahomes is ahead of him at 6.6.

[A]

He's got Josh Allen, Mahomes and Love ahead of him. It's outrageous. He's playing so much better than those guys. And Allen's been good, but not as good as Mayfield.

[B]

And he's so exciting. He's such a highlight reel. I mean, I know Allen is too. He runs all over the place. But what was Baker today? First quarterback ever to have 375 plus passing yards and fewer than five incompletions in a regular season game. He's just really like, this is, this is nonsensical. I guess our thing is that you have to be a top two seed. Why wouldn't they be a top two seed at this point?

[A]

I think they're.

[B]

I like their chances been in the packers at this point.

[A]

Well, the fact that they're 4 and 1 already. Yeah. Could they get to like 12 and 5? Yeah, that 13 one is just, I mean Stafford's 14 one. Who's having a better year, Baker or Stafford? I'll tell you this, I had Seattle -3. It was a roller coaster ride and at some point they took a seven point lead down the stretch and they just had to get a stop which they hadn't done for two hours because they had no defensive backs left and it was, you know, our guy Mac McDonald finally grew a pair and went for it on a fourth and two and got it for a touchdown, which he should have done two other games this year. He finally gets it at least. But Baker got the ball and I was just like, he's going to go down and score. Like how many quarterbacks in the league right now would just be like the fucking guy's going to go down and score. Like I know what's going to happen. And he just took him down. He basically one receiver, a tight end. Rashad White, who's a backup running back who looked good today, but he just patched it together and just made plays.

[B]

Can I say something? And sack just because I bet them to make the Super Bowl. I think we should put Tampa Bay in the super bowl because they're the most entertaining team right now for the Super Bowl. We get the most entertaining halftime show. Right? We don't necessarily get the best. Otherwise we'd have Paul McCartney every year. Same thing with the anthem. Let's just put them. We could play out the games. As long as we come to an understanding that the Bucks are going to be in the Super Bowl. I mean they. He's great. He shouldn't be fourth an MVP. He should be.

[A]

At worst, he'll be 8 to 1 tomorrow. To say it's, it's an insulting one. I'm with you. If we're handing out awards after five weeks, he clearly gets the most fun player of the 2025 season so far award. I don't think there's any question. And this connection he already has with Igbuka, who everybody loved before the season. We talked about him a bunch and he's even better than I thought he.

[B]

Was going to be.

[A]

I mean he was, he was absolutely unbelievable. He was open over and over again, just torching these, these Seahawks second stringers. That's. That was a tough one. And then on the flip side, Darnold was great. And at the same time as Geno was self combusting yet again. He was. And then it ends up he, he throws a pass that skids off someone's helmet and is the game ending interception.

[B]

Basically for less money than Gino. Yeah, they were 49 for 56 combined. They had scored touchdowns on seven straight drives halfway through the fourth quarter. I think like both teams averaged 12 yards of play or 12 and 10 or something like that. I love, I don't, I don't love every game to be like that, but definitely a Baker Mayfield. Game is fun to watch like that.

[A]

Certainly not a game I was expecting from the Seahawks.

[B]

No.

[A]

I thought I was a big believer in their defense, but they just passed the point of. Of injuries.

[B]

All right, you spill your water, what did you do? I was.

[A]

I was looking to see where we were on time because we're going to. Well, I'll do a couple of games really quick. Washington over the Chargers. Chargers are up 10, nothing. Then they die. Their offensive line is gone, and it seems like they might have been the rabbit team. I just feel like Denver and the Chargers have switched. They have switched spots, like in the hierarchy and to no fault of the Chargers because of the injuries. Right.

[B]

They should have known as soon as this game when they wouldn't make this game three. It was two and a half. Two weeks ago we were all saying, oh, Chargers, the toast of the AFC West. They're going to run away with that and everything. Yeah. Washington's banged up even with Jaden Daniels coming back. It was that line. But he was like 12 for 14 in the first half. Like, yeah, I guess they were up 10. Nothing. Then they just. Nothing. Nothing at all out of them. Eventually the line gave up.

[A]

Lions kill the Bengals. I think we can officially say maybe losing Aaron Glenn and Ben Johnson was an unequivocal disaster.

[B]

They're going to be all right.

[A]

Coaching staff. Yeah, they seem okay. Cincinnati's 2 and 3. Still the last three weeks, they've been down in games 28 to 3, 28 to 3 and 48 to 3. In the last three weeks, they've Been on 25, 25 and 45.

[B]

Why did I bet? Why were they my best bet today?

[A]

I don't know.

[B]

No idea. And then that cock tease.

[A]

There was a lot of. There were a lot of gambling Trends supporting Cincinnati+10 and a half. Like that big of a home dog, them coming off a huge loss. Detroit as a road.

[B]

What are they? Outdoor game, you know, even the worst teams don't get blown out by the spread three weeks in a row. Browning, are we going to rank these things? What are we doing?

[A]

We're. We're doing it after the break. D. Is Joe Burrow a possible MVP candidate for you still? We do this sometimes. If a guy leaves a team and they immediately fall down by a hundred points combined in the next three games. Should he get some boats?

[B]

I was going to flip it. Yeah. The answer is yes. He should be ahead of Jordan Love, I think, at least. But yeah. What is his injury like? Would they be much worse off with him in there right now than Jake Browning.

[A]

What's Joe Burrow like in a foot cast?

[B]

Yeah, just put him in like with a walker.

[A]

Sure.

[B]

Yeah. He wouldn't throw four interceptions.

[A]

He'd be the first guy to start an NFL game. But then also be allowed to board an airplane early.

[B]

Right.

[A]

When they bring in like the old people and the people on crutches, I like it.

[B]

Bring them in.

[A]

Saints over Giants. The kind of game that you regret winning in January. When you look back and you're like, why do we have the fourth pick? Oh, we won that Giants game. And Scatter. Scatterbow fumbled.

[B]

Scatterbo was blaming his gloves like my 12 year old does. And little league baseball, like, it's the gloves. I need new gloves. That's why I've struck out three times in a row.

[A]

This was the classic. There wasn't enough to gamble on today. And I never ever put two bad teams in a parlay. And a Sunday morning classic. Like, I really think the Saints are going to win. I really think the jets are going to win. I'll put those two with the Colts and it's like 4 to 1 odds on a parlay. Like, I'm just going to jump all over that. And then you're like, what did I do? You're just watching Justin Fields rolling to his right and whipping it out of bounds. You're like, what did I do? Why? Why? I know the rules at this point.

[B]

Don'T do this, but yeah, I mean, five, look, five turnovers for the Giants. They should still be able to beat the Saints. But that was a, that was a clinic they put on today.

[A]

Yeah. Panthers over Dolphins. A big one for all my Dolphins futures. I really needed them to lose this one for the 19 different Dolphin win under bets. But Carolina has somehow won two of their last three and then gotten blown out in the other game. Bryce Young, it just, he can't get going until he's down 17, it seems like.

[B]

Right.

[A]

It's like the boxer that needs to taste their own blood. He just needs, he just needs to see Andy Dalton like potentially warming up and then he kind of activates. They ended up they had 418 total yards and 26 first downs.

[B]

That was a fun game. I don't know if you had the audio on that. Collins is the play by play guy and he made it like it was the last Super Bowl.

[A]

Basketball guy.

[B]

Yeah, he's our friend. Alec was like, yeah, that's the Hornets guy. That's our guy. I was like, that's great. And it Was him and Schlaroth, I think. And yeah, that was a very exciting game. Even though like you kind of knew the Dolphins were going to blow it. They are really something else.

[A]

Yeah, something about two in the last two minutes of these games. I don't see them getting a six wins for any reason. And then the last one, the Texans killing the Ravens that we talked about CJ sucking us in. But the Ravens down one in four and it seems like they rest Lamar last next week. Then they have a buy. So they might be one in five heading into the buy and then maybe try to make a run. But I was looking at the year from health teams the last three years because I couldn't remember who was who. The 2024 Niners, they had gone 12 and 5. They were 6 and 11 last year. So they were the year from health team, bunch of injuries. 2023 Vikings, that was the cousins Achilles, they were 13 and 4. Dropped to 7 and 10 that year. And then the Rams, the year after the Super bowl in 22, they went from 12 and 5 to 5 and 12 where they had all their entries.

[B]

The Bengals aren't on there.

[A]

Part of the year from hell is. Yeah, you had to have been really good the year before.

[B]

They were okay after their super bowl year. I guess it was two years after that then maybe.

[A]

No, they were okay. Yeah. So. So those were the last ones. So this officially feels like we're on a streak.

[B]

Well, it's, it's awful with Baltimore and like, you know, not even in a joking way. They lost a former player this week. It just seems like it's all like freaking falling apart from them.

[A]

Yeah. And you know, Derek Henry's all over defense.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah. Now bringing it back to nonsense like you guys, Derrick Henry and Jamar Chase and all these studs with these weirdo quarterbacks. I don't know.

[A]

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[B]

I was back Saturday from Brooklyn.

[A]

All right, I'm excited to talk about that. And we have Carson Wentz vs Dylan Gabriel and I honestly didn't think Dylan Gabriel was that bad. He's at least accurate. He's tiny. Like passes will get deflected. I won't be told my grandkids about him, but he's like fairly competent. And it made me think with all the bad QBs we saw today, we had to have a bad QB fantasy draft, which we did last year. When there's a week like this where there's so many of them, we just have to for posterity rank them. So I'll give you the first pick. Worst quarterback you saw today.

[B]

Yeah. And I don't want to insult anyone right on this list because if you don't win this week, there's always. There are about a dozen. Yeah. Mariota Fields. It could be your week next week when we do this, you know.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But. All right, I'm gonna go for it here. And I know he came back and maybe covered on a teaser or something for Cincinnati, but I think it's the guy who you and I jinxed just four weeks ago by naming him the best backup in the league.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Taking Jake Browning. He had eight interceptions in four games and didn't even have one in the 28. 3 game that he lost. But here's a stat you can't beat and I think we threw this around on a text chain. At one point Jamar Chase led the Bengals with three tackles and that means your quarterback is the worst in the league. So congratulations.

[A]

Unbelievable stat.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

There's two other things because and it really jumps out on the multi view and the ability to watch all these games. The reaction of somebody after an interception. It's like that final when somebody's just in a slump as a QB and it's just like I don't know, my girlfriend just broke up with me kind of body language or just like you just feel like their vertebrae are sinking into their body. He had that once. And then the receivers. Chase was like, I'm fucking done with this. He had that body language going by the. There was nobody more unhappy to get yards than he was in the second half. He was like, give me the fuck out of here.

[B]

I think you know that. I'll add to that. That look that Chase gives that means all week it sucks. That means yeah, yeah, I knew it. In practice, if you. You're a little like stunned of like, oh, man, we were completing this and you know what I mean? But it. He gave that look like, yeah, this is an everyday occurrence.

[A]

It's got to be brutal to be in that situation as the qb when you know he was good as the backup. He's clearly lost a little something. But now you have this pressure. You have Chase and Higgins. You don't have an offensive line, you're not playing well. There's no backup, there's nobody threatening you, and you just like, can't get it going. It's a very good choice. I had to take Geno Smith. I. It just seems like it's over. He has nine interceptions already in five games. And there's like a storied list of people who have done this. And it's all some of the worst quarterbacks he can remember from the last 30 years. The Raiders, of course, have had a couple of them. I can't believe how bad he's been. And he's been bad beyond the interceptions. Like we talked about that week two Monday night game against the Chargers when he was just sailing the ball all over the place like we were joking about his eyesight. Last week they gave him $75 million for two years. They gave up a third round pick for him and he's worse than the guys they had last year. They had. I was looking at who they had last year. It was like. Or maybe two years ago. Oh, here it is. It was O', Connell, Minshew and Ritter. 19 touchdowns, 16 interceptions. Geno's, six TDs, nine interceptions. Right now, he's. Not to mention all the other stuff.

[B]

And he won his first game. Yeah, this is all last.

[A]

And he looked pretty good against the Pats, like he was making big passes. In 23. They had O', Connell, Jimmy G and Hoyer. They were 16 and 19 that year. 16 TDs, 19 picks. But those are the last three years of Raider QBs. If you go through the Raiders on pro football reference, Carr comes in, they draft him and they get like nine years out of Carr that are like Fine, Right. He made the playoffs that one year. It was pretty up and down. He had a couple bad years but for the most part it was like okay, yeah, right. It was like a.

[B]

Like it was 1 year 14. He was like tops at MVP odds, I remember. And then he got hurt or something.

[A]

But yeah, yeah, I know he was okay. But then you go before that. Like they had Carson Palmer for two years. They had jamarcus Russell, they had that guy Andrew Walter.

[B]

He's got through.

[A]

It's like, oh, I forgot about that guy. Whoa, I forgot about that guy. They have a million of those and Gino is supposed to solve it and.

[B]

He'S have a million and one. Yeah, he threw some balls today that not only should a 13 year vet not know to throw, anyone who's ever watched football, anyone who's ever watched a friend play Madden shouldn't make some of those throws. So.

[A]

Right.

[B]

And I can't believe he was in at the end. Like even the Colts took out. Even the Colts put Richardson in.

[A]

That was amazing. I loved when Richardson came in and they cut to. He almost had a fumble and he. Or he had a pass deflected. He caught it and then it cut to Danny Dimes on the headset. Just like laughing may not be done.

[B]

Dimes.

[A]

They thought we were competing.

[B]

You may have to come back.

[A]

Yeah, I wrote down. So The Raiders are 1 and 4. I wrote down turns out mid-70s. Pete Carroll, a washed up Chip Kelly, a multitasking Tom Brady and apparently washed up Geno Smith and the son of Al Davis were not the dream team in retrospect, of course I picked them to be the seventh seed in the playoffs. I have some regrets. It was them Jacksonville or Indiana or Indianapolis and it looks like the other.

[B]

Two, you know, all the talk about Brady shouldn't be allowed in the booth. He can't be interviewing these players. He can't do this. He's going to get inside every. Yeah, it doesn't matter. Geno Smith, your quarterback. That doesn't mean.

[A]

I think Brady solved the debate. They're fucking terrible.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like what kind of inside information is he getting?

[B]

Say something. Tomorrow he should be like, yeah, I hope this puts an end to all the talk about my cheating and my infiltration of the these interviews.

[A]

If I wasn't getting all this inside information, we wouldn't be one in four.

[B]

Yeah, right.

[A]

So Gino has the most interceptions in his first five games since Zach Wilson in 2021.

[B]

Nice.

[A]

That is rarefied air.

[B]

Yeah, not good. Not good at all.

[A]

Okay, so I took. I'm taking Geno second. You're up next.

[B]

Oh, I. We're not doing the two. You don't get two. Okay.

[A]

Oh, you want me to do two? I'll. Now you can go. Let's go back and forth. You go, all right.

[B]

I'm gonna say my guy. It's a. It. Does it have to be someone played today? Because I'm gonna say Joe.

[A]

No, it has to be. It doesn't be somebody that played. But yeah, Joe Milton didn't play.

[B]

Yeah. But he did knock over a fan in his yard with a pass.

[A]

I did say that. He doesn't count that.

[B]

I think Cooper Rush, I don't think it gets much worse, honestly. He was a good backup for the Cowboys and he can win games. But no more. No. Not even confident in his checkdowns anymore. Like you talked about Dylan Gabriel. Like, at least he got the ball out fast. First check downs, you know, we're going to see that for a rookie. Yeah. Cooper Rush, it's over. Sorry. You have decent receivers. You have Derek Henry. You should move the ball better than you did.

[A]

Yeah. The thing with Gabriel, you know, you know, he kind of wasn't like, I'll be telling my grandkids about him, but at least he was throwing like nine yard passes to players in spots where they could catch the ball, which sadly is passing for confidence in 20, 25.

[B]

It's like he practices. Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

It's. That tight end really enjoyed being able to catch the ball right in front of his helmet like that. I'm taking Justin Fields. I've just. The 0 and 26 I think is one of the craziest record. I just can't believe that if you're rooting for Justin Fields and you have this invisible thing for the other team where it's like, man, if they get to 21, the game's now over. I've never seen anything like that. But the thing is he's always. He'll always have two, three plays that kind of make you not want to give up on him yet. And he'll be like 38 and be like, ah, see that scramble? I don't know.

[B]

Right.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

40 yard run goes a long way. And not in keeping him out of the basement for this draft.

[A]

Yeah, right.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Who do you have with it?

[B]

You know what I'm going to say? Cam Ward. I have right now.

[A]

I had him next.

[B]

He did. Yeah. So entering this week, the Titans had three touchdowns after a month of football offensive touchdowns. And really the only reason they won Today was because a fumble was kicked around and some idiot dropped the ball at the goal line. So maybe he'll get, get it together, but right now he's got to be high on this list. The good news is Cam Ward versus Geno Smith. We got a bet on that game next week. That's a Sunday coming up.

[A]

Jesus.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah, he had a good last like 40 minutes of the game. Like, he, he actually started making some plays, but he was. The first two plus hours was bad. I'm taking Brissette with my next pick just because he played. He came in and immediately threw a pass that the, that the tight end blew his knee out trying to catch. And not to laugh at that, but it was, it was just like classic.

[B]

Shouldn't be helping the team doctor. They didn't for sure.

[A]

Yeah, they didn't score for the moments he was in there, but it was just. I got flashbacks to when he was the Patriots quarterback last year. Who do you have next? There's. I have four, five guys left on the board. It's getting interesting here.

[B]

Wow. All right. I have Arch Manning because I don't think that's a podcast. That's it. I'll save that for Tate on Tuesday. Is it just. Do I have to take, do I have to take Jackson dart over Spencer Rattler at this point? Because he won? Because I don't know.

[A]

I didn't have Jackson dart in this spot. Interesting.

[B]

All right, I'm gonna go Rattler, even though he won and he can't get to the, the Shot Kaiser trophy. That's all right. He's 1 in 10 now, but he still has to be on this list.

[A]

He's. Kaiser's off the hook, gets to keep his record. I don't think Rattler's awful.

[B]

Okay, well, we're getting.

[A]

Do you think he's awful? Like he actually can make some plays?

[B]

Yeah, I think they're done.

[A]

Well, I don't trust him. That's it.

[B]

That's it for them.

[A]

I have Bryce Young next only because he's fallen behind over and over again by state. There's been four times this season where there was a 10 minute stretch of people online or Panther fans being like, that's probably it for Bryce Young. He's never going to start another NFL game. And then he, he just does the undertaker and does the. All of a sudden he's up again and he's rejuvenated. But the Dolphins are really bad.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And yeah, I, I, I don't really.

[B]

See it with Bryce.

[A]

Unfortunately.

[B]

All Right. You probably don't have this guy on the list, but I'm gonna say Carson Wentz, and maybe because early in the morning, and I wanted to be entertained more, but I think a good way to do this list is, how about this? If you find out they're injured, are you okay with the backup coming in? And when Carson Wentz went out around halftime, I'm like, oh, what does this Brosmer guy look like? The backup for the Vikings? University of Minnesota quarterback that no one cared about in the draft. But so if. If your guy gets injured, you say, let's see what you got. Let's see what's next.

[A]

I think that's it.

[B]

And Carson Wentz, you know, I don't want to cut him too much slack. He's got Justin Jefferson. He's got Addison. He's got great receivers and should move the ball better. Against the Browns, I know they won, but come on.

[A]

I don't know who the announcers were today because I was barely awake, but at one point, I forget who they. Somebody who was involved with the Eagles or something. Who is. Oh, Jim Schwartz.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And he was like, jim. We were talking to Jim Schwartz this week, and Jim Schwartz said they would have won the super bowl with Wentz that year. He got hurt. Like, that's how good he was. They would have won the super bowl with him. Do people actually believe this?

[B]

I don't know, because, I mean, that was your dumb team.

[A]

Nick Foles left his body.

[B]

Right.

[A]

For three weeks. I don't know if Wentz would have done that. I don't know what. We'll never understand what happened with Nick Foles, but he did. I would have liked my chances.

[B]

Jim Schwartz a defensive guy? Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. I think he was just being nice. Can I take Brosmer here?

[B]

Yeah, you can if you want.

[A]

Did he have a. Was there a first name for him?

[B]

I don't think he. They're. They're not going to release it until, like, week nine.

[A]

He's just Brosmer. He's like Kramer.

[B]

Yeah, he's Brosmer. Yeah. It's a great.

[A]

I'm taking him next. All right. Two. Two picks left.

[B]

All right. I'm going to say Anthony Richardson. Just the sight of him kind of got me sick. I know he didn't do much or anything or hurt his team, and he played for a winner, but I have to put him on that list.

[A]

I actually had a thought. The most fun outcome is the Raiders trading for him.

[B]

Right?

[A]

Oh, that's like the perfect storm of everything, Right? The Raider Gino, they come up with some fake injury for Geno. Maybe his hurt, like he had a rotator cuff. We didn't realize. Yeah, but we've acquired Anthony Richardson for fifth rounder. Brady's gonna mentor him. Brady's going to get information from his coach meetings when he has coffees with coaches, and they give him the entire game plan for the week so he can say nothing when he does the telecast.

[B]

I like that. And get him on the cheap. AR15 going to the Raiders. Yeah, it all makes sense.

[A]

Gunslinger Al Davis would have loved this guy. He's like Darryl lamonica.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

So Tua and Gabriel are still on the board, and Gabriel's not better than Tua.

[B]

I.

[A]

As much as I would love to do it for the content, I'd have to. I have to take Gabriel here and leave Tua to you. Well, all right, let's.

[B]

Maybe we just. We. We button this up with Tua has to be drafted. Yeah. Because I have Kyler here, too. Honestly, are you sure Kyler's better than Tua at this point? I mean, how many games like this are we going to see? He has to do better than two. 20. And we have, like, 25 yards rushing versus the worst team.

[A]

So you're taking Kyler. I'll take two.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

There you go. Listen, that's a great case. I will say this. If they had announced during the game, if they had stopped the ball after he almost got concussed by the shotgun snap that he didn't see, and they stopped, and they're like, congratulations to Kyler Murray, who had the shotgun snap inexplicably hit his head when he wasn't looking for the 37th time. It's an NFL career high. Like, I actually would have believed that.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

That happens to him eight times a year. Any quarterback ever been more surprised by shotgun snaps?

[B]

I like it. Another guy doesn't practice. Nobody knows the ball's coming down. Yeah, that was a Looney Tunes episode. That really was. Drop ball, goal lines, snaps to the face, mask. Stupid team.

[A]

Do Arizona and Carolina play this year? I'm going to look this up because that's like our perfect match. Oh, they already played.

[B]

They played.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

That was the game.

[A]

I'm making my own point already, because it already happened, because I was going to say the perfect game would be Kyler Murray versus Bryce Young because they would take an early lead and then Bryce Young would make a late comeback. And that's actually what happened in week two.

[B]

That's when Arizona's wins Right? Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

All right, so your team was your bad QB fantasy draft. You had Browning, Rush, Ward, Rattler, Wentz, Richardson and Kyler.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And I had Geno, Fields, Brissette, Bryce, Brosmer, Bob Brosmer, Bobby Brosbert. Yeah, Bobby, Brian, Brosberg, Gabriel and Tua. Say a couple lefties.

[B]

Good for you.

[A]

I don't know.

[B]

Jackson dart. Jackson dart goes unscathed. Good for you.

[A]

He should go unsay it. He's not bad. I think he's better than everyone we just mentioned. Would you rather have Jackson dart than any of those guys?

[B]

It's fine. It's just some of these teams are going to end up with two and three wins and I couldn't even tell you which is which.

[A]

There's some really bad ones. So right now we have seven one win teams and a winless team. So we have eight teams that are one and four are on five. All right. This episode is brought to you by bilt, a rewards program that's changing the game for renters. When you pay your rent through bilt, you can earn flexible points that can be put toward hotels, airline tickets, a future rent payment, or even your next lyft ride to a home game. And that's not all. Bilt is about making your entire neighborhood more rewarding. So you can dine out at local restaurants and earn additional points, get the VIP treatment at certain fitness studios and more every month. Earn points on rent and around your neighborhood, wherever you call home. @joinbilt.com Bill that is J-O-I N B I L T.com Bill. This episode is brought to you by Fox One. Fox One is now live. You can stream all your fox favorites together in one place. From the MLB post season to NFL on fox to big noon Saturday starring Rob Stone with fox one. You get it all live. Start your seven day free trial today. Offers are subject to change. Go to fox one for complete terms and conditions. Fox one streaming. Now let's go to guest alliance Week six Eagles, Giants. We get to watch Jackson jart. By the way, you won the first two weeks. I won the last three. Yeah, yeah, yeah. People think I'm cheating again. I'm back, baby.

[B]

Well, let me just say something because you're going to think I'm cheating, but I got the Thursday night game. Exactly. And I got the Sunday game. The first two we go over Europe game. So that's. This is not how I would cheat. I would cover it up a little better, but go ahead.

[A]

Okay. Eagles at the giants. I have the eagles by seven and a Half.

[B]

That's it. All right. We tie. It is seven and a half.

[A]

Oh, okay.

[B]

See how you blocked me there?

[A]

Yeah. I looked at six and a half. Seven and seven and a half. And I tried all three and six and a half felt too late. Seven. It just felt like a seven and a half. But I also wouldn't have been surprised if you had told me it was nine and a half. Cause the Thursday night with what we saw from the Giants, well, you know.

[B]

We have to be scared a little when we put them on a teaser because they're not going to lose two games in a row.

[A]

Right. So this is a seven point tease, I think.

[B]

Yeah. With you.

[A]

So I think the move is you grab the Chiefs tomorrow, seven pointees with them, with the Eagles and then a third team.

[B]

Oh really? All right, well, let's go through these because you might just see them clearly here.

[A]

London game. I had no idea what to do with this Broncos jets, by the way. Poor London. Why do we do this to them?

[B]

It's a war crime. Some of these quarterbacks we throw their.

[A]

Way is the goal for London. We just make money because they'll go watch anything. Because I think so. The goal is to try to get them to love professional football and become real fans of the sport.

[B]

Right.

[A]

We're sending them the worst teams over and over again. Or these teams you would never want to watch. And these 21 to 17, these shitty games. Why don't we send like real people over there? Real people, like send them like Josh Allen versus Patrick Mahomes or like just one game where they'll be like, whoa.

[B]

Yeah, if we're going to have three or four in London or whatever, one of them needs to be decent. Right.

[A]

We gave them the Vikings twice.

[B]

Yeah. If it was Patriots, Bills, that would have been fine for Sunday morning. But yeah, I'm with you.

[A]

I, I, I went for, I wrote down Broncos -7. I think I might be low.

[B]

Jesus. I, I picked two. Exactly. And I can't gain any ground on you. Seven.

[A]

Seven.

[B]

Yeah. Well, there's your teaser. Right.

[A]

I don't know if I'm doing the I, I've, I'm 02 at the Euro games today. I did a. Yeah, but this Browns under a Browns moneyline under with the Colts and I felt great about it. And then the Browns didn't win.

[B]

The Browns money line under the Browns.

[A]

Money line with the under in the Browns game with the Colts money line. I did that as a parlay.

[B]

Well, why'd you like the Browns so much?

[A]

You like the Browns, the Vikings had no offensive line. I just thought their defense was going to win it by themselves.

[B]

Oh, this is different. Denver should win just, just to win. I mean that.

[A]

Yeah, I mean coming off the hive, winning in Philly and then losing to Justin Fields in London. By the way, by 10 o' clock on Sunday, the Giants and the jets could still have one win.

[B]

Oh, interesting.

[A]

Like we should really be monitoring this. This is, there's a, like the Yankees fell behind two nothing in this, in this Blue Jays series which I'm just stunned by because I, I just thought they were gonna kill the Blue Jays.

[B]

Right.

[A]

This, this could be in the running for like a, like a week from hell for the New York Sports. Yankees get bounced. Embarrassing Thursday night game, embarrassing London game. Yankees are gone. Met season was a disaster. Now everything's like riding on the Knicks. Do you think the mid season wasn't a disaster?

[B]

No, I hadn't even thought about it until you mentioned it. Well, should we do the same thing with Philadelphia though? Eagles lose, Phillies lose. Game one.

[A]

Penn State.

[B]

Eagles lose and Penn State, the ucla.

[A]

Yeah, that was bad.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

The Eagles fans like this though. They never want to be too happy and now they get to complain all week. What are we doing? Why don't we use the receivers? What's going on?

[B]

It's the bill bars. They like being angry. Yeah, they're.

[A]

Yeah, they like it. This, they're, they're in the right spot. Sunday marquee game. I couldn't believe this was the marquee game but I think this is what it should be. Bucks in Tampa against The San Francisco 49ers I think is the best game.

[B]

Definitely.

[A]

I think Tom Brady will go to this game and get all bunch of insight.

[B]

Oh, he shouldn't be allowed. Shouldn't be allowed.

[A]

He's going to find out so many things that's going to help the Raiders.

[B]

This is the only reason the Raiders are only losing by 25 and not 50 because he's got the inside scoop.

[A]

A friend of Brady was saying that Gino would have 19 interceptions if Brady wasn't in these meetings learning things. How's bucks minus two and a half sound?

[B]

Oh come on. Yeah, it sounds like you're cheating because now you're three for three with exact lines. That's what it sounds like. I had three, I thought the Bucks should be three.

[A]

I haven't seen anything. Bucks minus two and a half, I can't win. Well, I'm throwing the real hitter right now.

[B]

I have some bad picks too. Coming Up. This sucks. Why isn't this three?

[A]

I think it ends up at three, right? Well. Cause we don't know if Purdy's playing or not.

[B]

And that's bad or good? I don't know.

[A]

Mac Jones has one leg.

[B]

Seems to be enough.

[A]

I was proud of my guy, Mack Jones. I thought he. You know, I. I always felt like there was. Maybe we overrated him too much in the beginning, but it also really felt like he was just broken by the experience of being on these last Belichick teams. Yeah, right. And, like, just lost his confidence, like a little. Baker Mayfield is Baker. Baker Mayfield got waived and is now we're calling him the mvp. So. I don't know. You can lose your confidence, but.

[B]

Yeah, I mean, Shanahan must be just giddy. I mean, this is the guy he wanted at 3 anyway, right? Yeah.

[A]

Watchables.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

I only have one. Jags, Seahawks in Jacksonville.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Pretty good game. Putting in the tic tac zone. I get the Jags minus one and a half.

[B]

I mean, this is unprecedented. Fucking cheating going on. Did I hit it again?

[A]

I did not cheat. I swear at my kids.

[B]

Your kids?

[A]

Did I hit this?

[B]

You hit it. You got four. Perfectly. Yeah.

[A]

They should put this on the main page of YouTube right now. Four for four.

[B]

This is nuts. All right. I had Seattle. I thought Seattle would lay one.

[A]

I guess too many injuries.

[B]

This could change a lot, depending on what goes on.

[A]

I thought I was too low on that one.

[B]

Yeah, sure you did. Look at this.

[A]

Out on Witherspoon. Durant's out. Yeah, I like, instead of rooting for.

[B]

History, you're as bummed out as this is. The shithead who dropped the ball at the goal line.

[A]

Now, DeMarcado, he blacked out. That's what he shouldn't have said in the post game press conference. I blacked out. I don't remember what happened. Have you guys ever scored a touchdown? That's what he should say. Anybody here ever scored at 76 yard touchdown? Yeah. You don't understand what happens. You black out. It's really exciting. I just blacked out. I didn't have enough sugar today.

[B]

I think you should say stroke. I say I had a stroke. Now eligible for comeback player of the year next year.

[A]

I'm going for an MRI. I might not have stroke. Fairly watchable is at 5. Now there's some pressure.

[B]

What does it matter?

[A]

Colts, Cardinals in Indianapolis.

[B]

Well, I got this. I got this exact. So if you get this, I'm pressing leave meeting and I'm walking the F out of here. Go ahead.

[A]

I have it in the Vegas zone.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

Colts five and a half.

[B]

Wow. Wow.

[A]

Let a.

[B]

Red Nolan's even gotten three in a row. You have five.

[A]

This is the record for us. You know what's funny? I had four and a half before that Arizona loss at a point.

[B]

Let's just do parent corner. Why do we have to hit the.

[A]

Rest of these games? This is unbelievable. I'm like. I'm like the Bishop and Caddyshack.

[B]

You're still up five, three. Because I have three. But that wasn't enough. You have five.

[A]

I'm gonna lose. I'm gonna.

[B]

One. Go ahead.

[A]

I don't even know if this is a fairly watchable. It might be a poop one, but Chargers at Miami.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

A lot of pressure on this. I have the Chargers minus two and a half.

[B]

Okay, we tie on this. But neither of us are close to the actual line, which is charges by four and a half.

[A]

Oh, they put that in the Vegas zone.

[B]

That's a lot. One of these teams beats the shit out of the other. I can't remember which it is, but they seem to play every year. I don't know.

[A]

That's. What's the weather going to be like in a week, do we know?

[B]

October in Miami? I think It'll be okay.

[A]

October 12th, Miami weather.

[B]

What's going to surprise you here? 78.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

What is it?

[A]

It's going to be 83.

[B]

Oh, do you get that one?

[A]

That's a massive advantage for.

[B]

I'll give you an extra one for that.

[A]

Yeah, it's going to be 84 on Saturday and 83 on Sunday. I think that's a real advantage for them. I think these teams get tired in the second half.

[B]

That is a lot.

[A]

They're like baking in the sun.

[B]

Right.

[A]

Man, that makes me worried.

[B]

Wasn't it hot in Carolina today, too? I mean, the Dolphins were terrible at the end.

[A]

Was it?

[B]

I don't know. Probably.

[A]

All right, Steelers, Browns. My streak's over. What a run this is in Pittsburgh, right?

[B]

Yep.

[A]

The Steelers aren't that good, but the Browns have good defense. So I'm going to make this Dealers five and a half.

[B]

You know what? Starting next week, I'm going to drink the hot water and lemon by the gallon.

[A]

Did I hit it?

[B]

You hit it. Exactly. I said six.

[A]

See now, people, nobody's going to believe this. What do I have to swear on?

[B]

I don't know. I mean, you're not a very good actor, I'll say that. So you got. I think you're being legit here. I don't know what to say. Six out of seven. Exactly.

[A]

I'm feeling the schedule. I've been watching a lot of football.

[B]

You should. I mean, this is going to be interesting to see if you make money this week.

[A]

I think I might hit this next one.

[B]

That's probably low too, right? Wouldn't you be surprised if they lost that game? That's what that should be higher.

[A]

The problem with the Browns is if they get a lead.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

With their defense against Rogers, like if they were like up nine, nothing or something, I could see them.

[B]

Pittsburgh was off. Right. And Cleveland's coming off. And Cleveland's coming back. Yeah, but Cleveland's coming for Europe. That's a huge rest advantage there.

[A]

It's a parlay game. Rams, Ravens. So are we assuming no Lamar? Because I did my guess with no Lamar.

[B]

I'll give you a hint. Not that you needed. Yes. No, no Lamar. If you read into this line. Yeah.

[A]

Okay. Well, I'm probably too low anyway because I said Rams minus three and a half.

[B]

Okay. I said five. It's seven and a half.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

They've had enough.

[A]

So I've hit six. Exactly. But I was off by two and off by four. Yeah, seven and a half is high. It's kind of a kitchen sink game for the Ravens. Like, do they. They wanted they'd be one in five heading into a buy, like, don't they. You're doing flea flickers, you're doing double passes, you're doing everything.

[B]

I, I'd like Baltimore a lot more if the Rams hadn't lost that stupid, stupid ass game on Thursday. You know, that really was stupid.

[A]

I'm tired of. I, I, I, I'm at my limit of the guys fumbling as they're about to score a touchdown.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like this used to happen once a year and now I feel like it's.

[B]

Happening even if they get punched every week. Yeah. Nobody. Nobody. Yeah, I mean, I, I don't like when you feel like you can't count on anything. Like when it's bad play calling by Sean McVeigh. Right. We gotta be able to count on the good coaches. It's not. There's too many bad coaches, quarterback combos.

[A]

But that's. I talked about this on Thursday's pod. For some reason, he has a blind spot on these fourth and ones. Right. Did you feel like that was going to be a good call by him? Well, no, I was feeling like he messes those up.

[B]

He's got to be able to audible out right when. When everybody is loading the box like you can't. Never works. The tailback.

[A]

Pat. Saints. Initially, before the Buffalo game, I had Tic Tacs on for this, but I think they have to be minus three in New Orleans. So I went, pat's minus three in New Orleans.

[B]

It is Pat's minus three. I said two and a half. I don't know.

[A]

How many have I hit? Seven. That's seven. That might be the record.

[B]

This is ridiculous. We got to give you a parade here or something. One, two.

[A]

That's a pretty easy one, though.

[B]

84. I guess I'm just a half point off everything.

[A]

Poop facta. Three games, including your team. Dangerous game. Cowboys at Carolina.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

If it's going to be hot in Miami, I'm guessing it's also going to be hot in Carolina. I have Cowboys minus three and a half in Carolina.

[B]

Should we hire someone to do. What'd you say?

[A]

Minus three and a half. Cowboys.

[B]

I can't believe this. After a while, right? Like, I. I can't just sit here and get insulted.

[A]

Is it three and a half?

[B]

It's three and a half. I said three. Eight. Oh, my God. Jacoby. There's not much I could do here, Jacoby.

[A]

What a day. The Pats beat the Bills and I'm on fire.

[B]

Let's just stop this now. Now.

[A]

Now I got to see if I get to 10. Well, I don't know. We'll see. I already have the guesses. Are you scared of that Carolina game?

[B]

Oh, yeah. I was scared of watching the documentary when we lost that game. Michael Irvin had a good game.

[A]

Oh, yeah. You have the Steve Berlo. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. This has all the makings of. You go up 10, nothing, and then all of a sudden it's 24 to 14. Panthers.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. We lost him last or two years ago. Yeah, we already lost.

[A]

Is saying it's a huge comeback. Raiders, Titans. I mean, it's in Vegas. I have Raiders minus two. I don't think I hit this one.

[B]

Oh, wow. Well, you should lose like four for that. I said four and it's six and a half.

[A]

What?

[B]

Let me recheck. Yeah, six and a half. You love Vegas. On a teaser. You love them. No.

[A]

I just think. What did we say? The home field advantage is now one and a half.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Do you think the Raiders are better than the Titans? I mean, one of the things we didn't mention with the Raiders is they don't have Bowers.

[B]

Right.

[A]

Bowers clearly fucked up his knee after Week one, he tried to play the last two weeks. He wasn't explosive at all. They benched him in today's game. And I just think without him they don't. That's like the only receiving weapon they have.

[B]

I don't know what to think because the Titans go down, you know, 14, 17 points every game. So it just depends on if there's a Kyle Omari type to let him back in it.

[A]

Last game is Packers.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

Packers in Green Bay facing the Bengals.

[B]

I was way off on this. Go ahead.

[A]

You're way off on this.

[B]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[A]

Well, Detroit was favored in Cincinnati by ten and a half and killed them. So the packers have to be favored by 13.

[B]

Okay. I said 11. It's 14 and a half. Yeah. They can't screw around here.

[A]

Might have to break out the old 13 point teaser for that one. Take it out of the closet. Got a leg.

[B]

You could do whatever you want this week. I don't see how you lose any of these games. You're all over everything.

[A]

Would you see the home teams today?

[B]

What was it?

[A]

They were three and nine outright for this week. For week five. Home teams today, just winning or losing really were three and nine today. Not counting the Rams too.

[B]

The Rams.

[A]

Including the Rams. Yeah.

[B]

Yeah, that makes sense as I look at my ledger. Yep.

[A]

Yeah. Didn't make a lot of sense. Okay, Sunday night, Chiefs, Lions, a great game. And I put it right in the tic tac zone and I said Chiefs minus one and a half.

[B]

All right, well, I've lost track now. But you, yes, you hit that exactly. It's one and a half. I thought Detroit would be favored by one, but I guess you can't chase my ninth one.

[A]

Is that 10? There's two Monday night games.

[B]

Because I have such a headache. I feel like it's like 15, but if you say 9.

[A]

Is this better or worse for you than losing the Cardinals? Bet when the guy you're about to go up 20.

[B]

This is bad. This is D. Mercado and the Mets blowing whatever is.

[A]

I'm gonna get no credit for this. Cause everybody's gonna think I cheated.

[B]

Well, yeah, they should.

[A]

The only way to know, see, didn't cheat is me and I'm like wildly impressed by myself. I've never done this.

[B]

I don't think you would cheat this way. I don't. I really don't think so.

[A]

I. I certainly would have to be a lunatic to cheat this way.

[B]

Well, yeah, it's the freaking hot water. It's doing it.

[A]

Let's go. For 10. Monday night bills at Atlanta.

[B]

Two games again. How they just gonna keep doing this?

[A]

I don't mind it. I went Bills minus two and a half in Atlanta.

[B]

Oh, you lost this one. I said five. It's four and a half.

[A]

Another one where I'm off.

[B]

Well, they're not gonna lose. I mean, wouldn't you be shocked if they lost this? And tonight everyone's betting Buffalo here.

[A]

I think Atlanta's a pretty solid home team. They had the week off. I haven't seen Buffalo play a complete game yet. And we're heading into the second week of October. I don't know. I think Atlanta could win this.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

I wouldn't feel awesome about betting Buffalo on the money line. Last one. My last chance to go for 10. Which would easily be the record. It's Washington at home on a Monday night against the Bears without Terry McLaurin, but with Daniels and I have Washington in the Vegas zone. Is it in the Vegas zone?

[B]

It is in the Vegas zone.

[A]

I have Washington -4 and a half.

[B]

You did it. You did it.

[A]

10.

[B]

There is a crazy.

[A]

Were there bye weeks this week.

[B]

Thank God there was two teams on by Houston and Minnesota because he would have had 11.

[A]

So I got 10 of the 15 I hit. Exactly.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

That's never happened before.

[B]

I don't think six or seven has ever happened. We're launching an investigation.

[A]

I don't know what to tell you.

[B]

You comey, you're all going down. Wow. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7.

[A]

You know what it is? Here it is. Here's the secret right here. You're not looking up.

[B]

It is. Yeah. Is that a urine specimen? What is that?

[A]

No, that's. It's a water with lemon in it.

[B]

Lemon. Yeah. Yeah. Good fearing good job by you. 12, seven. And you lead four weeks to two. Oh, man, I am rattled by that. That was impressive.

[A]

I should have. When I was going for 10, I should have held my iPad right over the camera and then dropped it like D. Mercado dangled it. And just to replay that, just lost it. So seven point teaser or parlay type of things. Rams, Ravens. If Lamar isn't playing, that's pretty enticing. Eagles, Giants, Broncos, jets would be the three. That's one of those. Which team is blowing this for us?

[B]

I don't. I don't think it's complicated. Philly and Denver. Philly, you have to do Thursday night, Sunday morning. You're done. Yeah. Don't even wake up for that game. All right.

[A]

You want to hit some parent corner yeah, not really.

[B]

I want to go to sleep. I'm really mad about this.

[A]

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[B]

No, no, they were home and that's what goes on here. So I didn't really have much interaction with them. But yeah, I was there for eight days and I was like, you know, do I have to bring something home? I guess I should bring something home. So I bring home a bunch of yes, but Jimmy Kimmel live sweatshirts and T shirts and hats. Not free and not cheap, but I do get a 20 discount. And I met with. Oh, thanks. Like, everyone's like, yeah, it's like, you know, I got like they were handing.

[A]

Them out at the show.

[B]

Yeah, it's like I was like, yeah, I paid for these. It's nice. It was like actually hard to get because they were like selling outside. I put them to the side like, yeah, 12 year old, 17 year old wife. And I was like thinking to myself, what age do you stop bringing gifts home for the kids after a business trip? And I thought about it. Go ahead.

[A]

Probably like nine. I would say nine.

[B]

Yeah, I thought about it and I threw a lot of numbers around and I wanted to hit it exact. Much like you did 10 times today, whatever you did on the guest of Lions. And I figured that age is whatever age they started getting. Everything they fucking ever asked for in life is the age. Like, why do we have to bring back anything to signify? I mean, of course I missed you. We FaceTime, we called. But you also get whatever you want. Like you get Roblox bucks in every PlayStation game or app or Amazon gift cards or fishing poles or boogie boards or topgolf out. Like it adds up. Is a, is a Statue of Liberty globe, a snow globe. I'm certainly not getting anyone a Mets jersey from New York. I feel like I did the okay.

[A]

Half price Soto jersey.

[B]

Yeah, it's enough. It's good.

[A]

Maybe it's the Venn diagram is exactly the same age as Elf in the Shelf. Whenever that stops, that's when you stop bringing gifts home too.

[B]

Okay, so two, three years past the Easter bunny and I hope no kids are listening. But the, the other guy, the big guy.

[A]

Yeah, big beard again. John Walsh.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. John Walsh. Yeah, That's. That's it. I don't know. So anyway, no one's happy.

[A]

All right, so converse question or like, parallel question? How many years do you have to be with whoever you're dating or married to before you don't even think to bring them home? Something when you've been away for a week. Right?

[B]

Same thing.

[A]

That's probably like three, four years. Yeah, sure. Because then if it's like, after, like, 11 years and you bring them something, they just assume, like, you cheated on them when you were away.

[B]

Yes. Suspicious. Yes. Yeah.

[A]

It's like, why are giving me this?

[B]

Right. What are you up to exactly? It's like.

[A]

I don't know. I just wanted to get you a sweatshirt.

[B]

Why? That's exactly right. That's exactly right. Now versus if you send them flowers just on a random Wednesday, That's. I. To me, that's nicer that. Not that I would do that, but that's nicer than, you know, bringing gifts home.

[A]

So I know you don't get. What was your best. Was Billy Kimmel in Brooklyn?

[B]

He was there, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, he was.

[A]

I mean, I just want. I just want. We're going to have our cousin. Come on Parent Corner. I think next week. I got to see so little Billy, who's in the perfect parent corner age.

[B]

So funny.

[A]

I haven't seen you this delighted by anybody in a long time. Because it's good, because it's not your son. So you're like. You're the perfect amount of distance, but you're related to him. And he's a complete shit stirrer. And he was just shooting people with a water gun and messing with 20 people in this very tense office. And you had the tongue in your cheek. You were just delighted.

[B]

People all dressed up. It's the first show back. This is in la the first show back. And Billy knows right where the water gun is. It goes right for his mother, who.

[A]

Turned right, shoots her in the ear.

[B]

Yeah, it's like block or charge. I don't know what we call this, but she walked right into it.

[A]

She's wearing a dress. It's like the biggest show in the history of the show. She's just firing a water gun at her Jimmy. So did you have any good Brooklyn moments?

[B]

Yeah, I mean, first of all, great crowds. 10,000 people over five days. There were like 125,000 ticket requests and no shenanigans. Like, I was worried, like, all it takes is one or two, whatever. So all. All big Fans, all big energy highlights. I mean, you could call me Grandma Sal instead of cousin Sal because I had about 25 grandma slices of pizza while I was there. All different spots.

[A]

Did you weigh yourself before and after the trip or.

[B]

No, I didn't. Tomorrow though, I'm tripling up on the Zepbound so I have to have to get. Get it in order. It's going to be lemon and hot water the rest of the year till Christmas. We took our Aunt Chippy on a tour of rats in New York City. This is essentially. Yeah, she didn't like it too much and she was very upset with us. But I think the highlight was Seth Meyers was on the show and requested to meet me. And he is a big, big fan of ours.

[A]

He's a longtime guest alliance guy.

[B]

Yeah. And he's a big fan of mine and yours before the hot water with lemon fiasco. Now he's just a fan of mine. But he was like, like, you gotta go after. Don't ever let him forget about that lemon thing. That's crazy. So. And here you are hitting 10.

[A]

Yeah, he texted me about it and I reminded him that you were sharing a milkshake with Rob Bills.

[B]

He no one cares about share a vanilla milkshake. All right. Still milkshake.

[A]

49 year old man. It sounded like it was a great week. The Matt Damon thing was the highlight.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. Oh yeah, it sounds great.

[A]

The Matt Damon was really, really funny. So mine. Listen, I just. Very few times will I use this platform just to complain. Hoping for change, but also just complaining. I don't really like when people use platforms for that. But my daughter plays college soccer. She's a Div 3 athlete and all these different leagues have these different systems for streaming the games to the parents because obviously the kids are from all over the place and people still want to. There's nothing more fun than watching your kid play SP sports. So we played a NESCAC team. NESCAC is the one with Amherst and Williams and Bowdoin, all those ones. And they're playing in Bowdoin and it's like the most. It's called NSN Sports and they have this beautiful HD wide feed and you could see the whole game and the picture was perfect. And it was like the game was on ESPN too. And we're like, my wife and I were like, this is amazing. This is like the best telecast of a Zoe game ever. And then on Saturday we go back to the app that's for her league, the new Mac league. And it's called Flow Sports and it's this app that when it works for 20 straight minutes, it's a fucking miracle. And sometimes it's just gone and it says, technical difficulties, there'll be 20 minutes left in the game. Sometimes it doesn't start. You log on before the game and you're just like, I just hope my daughter's game's on. I just, I really. And then it's like, oh, there's the field. So this one, they reached a new one on Saturday. They've never done this one before. I felt like flow sports had played all of the hits for just how to fuck with parents of these players. This one there was just a test pattern. That was a field of the game. There's some three year old, a wide shot of the field, one camera. There's some three year old working the camera. They're just zooming in and out. It's like if you give your son an iPhone and he's like, ah. And then on top of it, the test pattern. And every time the camera would move, if like somebody kicked the ball, the test pattern would come on. So about 20 minutes in, we're like, we might have a seizure. Like, should we keep watching this? We have to watch it. It's always game and it's just test pattern, game, test pattern, game, test pattern, game, flow sports. It's like $10 a month.

[B]

I know. I was big on wrestling. I think it started with like wrestling.

[A]

They have all these sports and there was, I googled them and there was this big article about flow sports. They've so much money and resources and things are going great. It's like, things aren't going great. Your cameras suck. Every Telecast It's a 50, 50 whether I'm going to see my daughter's game or not. I live 3,000 miles away. Show the fucking game. Figure it out. Get better cameras. Use your resources. For all these colleges, you have this great economic thing going on. You have people like us that are just away from our kids. This is. We'll pay any amount of money to watch our kids play. Figure out the fucking cameras. Flow sports, like don't suck this much.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

That's my rant for parents.

[B]

I like it. They're done now.

[A]

Really.

[B]

You crippled that. You made it worse. You know, you crippled that company Sports and Tylenol out.

[A]

You know why I'm so upset? Because I'm still Recovering from the seven seizures I had from the 97,000 times they flashed the test pattern.

[B]

Well, it helped guess the lines, obviously.

[A]

Yeah, maybe all the seizures.

[B]

How many games do you think they're doing simultaneous? Not to stick up for them here because I don't know what's going on. But do they? They probably have.

[A]

Oh, they have a hundred million going on. Yeah, they have a million times.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. But at some point, like if this is a business, like, of course the things shouldn't flake out.

[B]

It's not a business anymore.

[A]

You took sports. The Nescac certainly has a good camera. Flow Sports just get like have a meeting. Play this whole rant in the meeting at 10 o'.

[B]

Clock.

[A]

And I really want you to all look at each other in the conference room.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

And figure the fuck out what you're going to do long term with this. This is a great product you have. Parents love watching their kids play sports. Just figure it out. It's true. There's another game on Wednesday. Zoe's playing Wednesday. Am I going to be able to watch the game? Is it going to cut out? We'll never know.

[B]

Oh, they're going to fly you out first class now to make sure you don't miss. You're right on the field.

[A]

Have the feed. I don't need anything. Just have the feed Working.

[B]

Work.

[A]

I speak on behalf of all the parents out there and I know there's got to be so many more parents that like hate flow sports.

[B]

How much is it? 10amonth?

[A]

Yeah, something like that.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

If they say they're gonna have it, they should.

[A]

It's two months away from 2026. Like we should be even. I have a good camera for the podcast now. Think how long that took. Like we're all getting better at this stuff, right? Anyway, that was Parent Corner full from.

[B]

Progressive just killed herself.

[A]

His parent quarter Brought to you by workday.com youm can learn more about all their great stuff there. They are a more competent company than Flow Sports. All right, so what do you have going this week? Tuesday, Wednesday, Friday, Ringer gambling show.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

House is coming this weekend by the way.

[B]

Oh, he is? Although I don't know if you're coming for football. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right, let's get up to come.

[A]

For football on Sunday.

[B]

You Tuesday with Tate. Wow. Penn State and Texas suck. We're going to talk college, we're going to talk pro. Talk baseball. What's going on with coach Belichick? Wednesday with House and our nephew the Bundo. Friday with the Bundo and High Fitz and then our award winning pregame show. By the way, that was a great fit. That was like a look Stand back. And I'm like, what I'm doing in life is pretty cool. I'm like, well, I'm on with my buddies on this pregame show. And I'm like, I'm going to bet the Vikings on that last drive plus 250. Of course, I lost it all during the day, but I'm going to.

[A]

I'm going to bet him.

[B]

I like this. This is still the Browns. And then we discussed it. We're on the air talking about it, and it won. I was like, this is. This is very cool. So there you go. Bring a pregame show.

[A]

Any. Any baseball picks before we go. Anything you're excited about.

[B]

How to. How could you pick any of these games? Do you like any of this?

[A]

I thought the Yankees were going to. Honestly, I thought they were going to kill Toronto. I'm not saying that. Yeah, Has a reverse jinx thing when Basheck got scratched combined with Toronto's bullpen. But the thing is they've never even had to go to the bullpen because they killed them in two games in a row.

[B]

Yep. Can I say something? That's Detroit.

[A]

Seattle is a good series, though. I think that one's going to go seven.

[B]

I'm old Manish with this thing because it. I don't like when the playoffs don't resemble the regular season and when these guys. I mean, Seattle had a fricking shutout going and still used five pitchers. I know. It ended up three. Two. They allowed one earned run. Like we need to see five pitchers when your. Your guy is like throwing a gem, like doing the best he's ever done, you know? So anyway. But it's fun to have.

[A]

Would you put like a.

[B]

Would you.

[A]

Would you put like a number for how many you could use in the first seven innings or something?

[B]

Yeah, I think just. I don't know. I guess you can't do that because of injury and everything. But I also think all these games should air on Flow Sports.

[A]

Toronto, Yankees on Flow Sports.

[B]

I just imagine getting a camera to Canada. Oh, man.

[A]

Just flow sports. Just do better. I'm not. Just do better. Not asking for a home run. Just hit a single to the opposite field. It'd be great. All right, cuz. This was a true pleasure tonight. Congrats to my New England Patriots. Congrats to me for the 10. Thanks to Eduardo and Gahao as well. You can have the rewatchables tomorrow night. Jeremiah Johnson. We're doing that one. You got Task Prestige TV podcast. We've been covering that every week. Are you watching Task?

[B]

Yeah, I am. I'm way behind, though.

[A]

Task is good. And then my wife and I watched the first three episodes of the Ed Gein Netflix thing. Really disturbing. Like, almost too disturbing. Why not continue?

[B]

Really? Oh, so maybe I don't have to add it to my channel?

[A]

I don't know. If you do, I'm on the fence.

[B]

I got John Candy. I got all these other John Candy's coming.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right. That one's coming, too. All right, Sal, good job by you. Good job by you, buddy. Thanks, everybody. Must be 21 plus on President Select States for Kansas in affiliation with Kansas Star Casino or 18 + on President in D.C. kentucky or Wyoming. Gamble problem. Call 100 Gambler, visit rg-help.com, call 888-789-7777 or visit ccpg.orgchatinconnecticut or mdgamblinghelp.org in Maryland. Hope is here. Visit gamblinghelplinema.org or call 800-327-5050 for 24. 7 support in Massachusetts or call 877-8-HOPE NY or text Hopeny in New York.