“I want to preserve interests. A kid that’s interested in something—that is absolutely precious, and I want to cultivate that. I want to pour fuel on that fire.”
— Aaron Stupple

This episode is more of a debate than my usual interviews. I hope you enjoy the extra spice, and if you like it, please let me know at @tferriss on X. This is a sharp contrast with the Dr. Becky Kennedy episode, and I encourage you to listen to both.

Aaron Stupple (@astupple) is a board-certified internal medicine physician. He focuses on reviving the non-coercive parenting movement derived from the philosophy of Popper and Deutsch called Taking Children Seriously. His book, The Sovereign Child: How a Forgotten Philosophy Can Liberate Kids and Their Parents, gives practical examples of this freedom-maximizing approach to parenting, gleaned from his experience as a father of five.

Naval Ravikant (@naval) is the co-founder of AngelList. He has invested in more than 100 companies, including many mega-successes, such as Twitter, Uber, Notion, Opendoor, Postmates, and Wish.

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#788: Naval Ravikant and Aaron Stupple — How to Raise a Sovereign Child, A Freedom-Maximizing Approach to Parenting

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